1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Oh it's more than w's and l's. We'll explain that 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: in just about a minute. Good morning, it is that time. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: and we are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Com studios. Tire rack dot com. Yes, we'll help you 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: get there and on match selection, fast free shipping, free 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: road has a protection and over ten thousand recommended in stareless. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Tire rack dot Com the way tire buying should be. 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: I felt like my left arm was not with me 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: last week. He's my guy, he's my extension. He's my 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: partner and friend, the one and only Bucky Brooks. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: He's back. Hello, Buck, how are you? 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 4: I'm good Andy. What's going on? How you doing? 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: I missed you? I missed you. I really did. I'm 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: nothing without you. 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Know that. 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: You know your back hurts all the time because you 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 3: carry me every week. That's it. 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: We hear now. I appreciate the kind of words. Man. 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: I'm happy to be back. 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm happy you hear you really are? Hey, it's here 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, Like you know, people think 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: goll September twenty first first day of fall. No fall 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: is here now that goes football is here. And I'm 26 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: going to say one thing right now, No one's going 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: to talk about this all day long on Fox Sports 28 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: Radio or anyplace else. The biggest upset of the day yesterday, 29 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: the biggest day, the biggest game. Vanderbilt and overtime beats 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: va Tech thirty four to twenty seven and ot Vandy 31 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: misses the the field goal with like no time left 32 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: to go with the extra period overtime. Vanderbilt over Virginia 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Tech yesterday. Who the funk that years ago? That's a 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: huge win for the Commodores. Enough said. But I thought 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 2: that was the biggest game of the day yesterday. 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: I really do. 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: Well, I'm kind of with you. It was. It was. 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 5: It was a crazy upset because Vanderbilt has been kind 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 5: of down, up and down in the last couple of years. 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: With Carl you can say, good job, No, I can't 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: see that was. It is terrible. 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 5: But Virginia Tech was a team that we thought was 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: on the rise, and so for Vanderbilt to get that 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: win and to do it in an impressive fashion, good 45 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 5: job for the Commodoors. 46 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: Yes all right, and next I know, Oh, you're tremendous 47 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: with picking players. You've been a scout, a coach, whatever. 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: My player obviously you know. But I'm going to say this. 49 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: I said this last year. I'm going to say it 50 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: here and now you can write it down. If I'm wrong, 51 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: I'll be the first to tay you I'm wrong. I 52 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: think the Heisman Trophy winner is going to be Ali 53 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: Gordon from Oklahoma State. 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: He's the only. 55 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: Non quarterback guy in that whole pack with people saying 56 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: these are Heisman candidates. Yesterday, Oklahoma State rolls over South 57 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Dakota State, no surprise there, forty four to twenty. But 58 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Ali had twenty seven carries for one hundred and four 59 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns. Your take on that, because if 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: you give me the blessing that, I feel a lot 61 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: better because I think Oli Gordon is a Heisman Trophy winner. 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: I think he's a Heisman Trophy candidate. I do not 63 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: believe he's going to be the winner. 64 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 5: It's a quarterback award, so the hottest quarterback is going 65 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 5: to be rewarded. And this year there's some quarterback candidates 66 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 5: that are going to have a lot of attention because 67 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: they're going to be on national TV and people are 68 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 5: going to see them. 69 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: Sure, there are saying this is from. 70 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: Colorado, it's going to be one three over four hundred 71 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: yards in his first game. Quinn yours from Texas is 72 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 5: going to be another. 73 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 74 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: We saw how spect tackler he was in their effort 75 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 5: in a win. And then Dylan Gabriel who threw for 76 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 5: almost four hundred yards even though it was a squeaker 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: for Oregon and knockoff Idaho. I just think there are 78 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: too many notable names that are going to command attention 79 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: at quarterback. That's gonna leave my man, Oli Gordon out. 80 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: In the runners up circle. 81 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: Well we'll see what I'm gonna push, Volly Gordon. 82 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: I liked the Big O. 83 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: The Big O is a definitely a candidate, no doubt 84 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: about that. Now let's get back to this not j 85 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: Dain game, because you know people are saying it was 86 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: it was a tough game. 87 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: It was a close game. 88 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: I get it. 89 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: I mean there was some mistakes quarterbacking on Texas A 90 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: and M and I nt Over. There a couple of fumbles. 91 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: I mean, but here's the deal. You know everybody was shocked. 92 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: I don't know why. The game was a shocker because 93 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, at least going into the game I think 94 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: was rank seventh, and A and AM was ranked twentieth. 95 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been that close. 96 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Although again, you know, going into the season, I kind 97 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: of throw those preseason rankings out the window because I 98 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: don't know how on Earth you could rank a team 99 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: that hasn't played yet. 100 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. 101 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: So you know, the twenty three to thirteen score tie 102 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: big time towards d end. I think Jeremiah Love had 103 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: ay twenty one yard touchdown run the game's couple less 104 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: couple of minutes, and it pushed the Iris over them 105 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Texas A and M down there. It was a home game, 106 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: So I just don't understand why people are so shocked, 107 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: don't you. Dame should have won that game as far 108 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: as the rankings are concerned. 109 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 5: I mean, I think, like one, Notre Dame, so everyone 110 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 5: is the brand name, right is you know, the fighting areage. 111 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 5: They've done it for so long, so many people want them. 112 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: To be back. 113 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: They started out number seven, and so the huge expectations 114 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: over what this team could and should be. I give 115 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 5: them a ton of credit. I think their coach Marcus 116 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 5: Freeman at the end of the game just talked about 117 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: how he told this team it was gonna be a 118 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 5: tough battle Texa in is also a ranked team and 119 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: that was gonna be a fourth quarter affair. And for 120 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 5: them to get to win, for them to do it 121 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, to win with quarterback, even though 122 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 5: he's an experienced quarterback, I think it says a lot 123 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: about them. But Andy, early in the season, no one 124 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: really knows who's what because without preseason games, I mean, 125 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: you just. 126 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: Don't know how your team is going to respond Week one. 127 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: For Notre Dame to get that win against a really 128 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: tough team still making a transition into Mike Elko has 129 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 5: off to Marcus streaming in the Irish. 130 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: All Right, this is a story that I think deserves 131 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: a lot of attention. And I'm not so concerned about 132 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: the score, but the story itself. I'm talking about the 133 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: Georgia game. Georgia has not lost the game like now 134 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: in a thousand days. It's unbelievable. They're rolling there thirty 135 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: four to three over Clemson, and they really gave it 136 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: to Clemson yesterday. But the big question I have is 137 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: what's going on with Clemson. That's the question I have. 138 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: You know, the days of Trevor Lawrence aren't there, Sammy Watkins, 139 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: isn't there a DeAndre Hopkins? 140 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: Those days are gone? All right? I get that. 141 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: But when Dabo Sweeney, the coach of Clemson, says that 142 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: he's not going to get a transferred player from the 143 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: portal because he doesn't believe college player should he get paid, 144 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: he might be in the wrong profession. 145 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: Really, I'm serious. I mean, he might be in the 146 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: wrong deal. 147 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: You got if you want to compete, if you want 148 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: to win, And he's going to be on the hot 149 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: seat big time down there in Clemson, not so much 150 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: because of the loss, but because of his philosophy that 151 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: he did not have one transfer player in the portal era, 152 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: you know, playing for Clemson. I don't get it. I mean, 153 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: do you know anything about the situation there at Clemson 154 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: with Dobbo Sweeney. I know he's true to his word. 155 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: I've read a lot about Dabbo over the years. He's 156 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: a Bible thumping kind of guy. He takes his guys 157 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: to church on Sunday. I understand all that. I'm not 158 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: saying good, better and different, just just what he does, 159 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: but maybe he just has a belief that he is 160 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: going to pay players, and in this day and age, 161 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: if you don't, you're out. 162 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 5: Really maybe, you know, there's a part of me that 163 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 5: kind of hopes that Dad Boy was able to win 164 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 5: because he's trying to do it with homegrown products, right, 165 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 5: He's trying to do it with high school players that 166 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 5: he recruits to grow and develop into a team that's 167 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: capable of competing with the big dogs. 168 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: Because the transfer portal has. 169 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: Eliminated, I won't say eliminated, has really drastically reduced the 170 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 5: amount of opportunities that are available for high school players. I'm 171 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: pulling for Dabbo for that reason. But in the era 172 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 5: that we're in, it's going to be hard for Dabbo 173 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: to consistently compete with the heavyweights if he doesn't have 174 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: players that are. 175 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: Ready to play at that level. 176 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: So when you got the Georgia's and the Alabama's and 177 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 5: the Ohio states of the world taking the top players 178 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: from all of the other superpowers, and so you load 179 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: it with four and five stars, it can make it. 180 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: Hard for mature four or five star players. 181 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: Hard like for immature four stars to deal with the 182 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: mature version, meaning older guys that are established that have 183 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: played well at the college game. 184 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: It's hard for young players to compete at that level. 185 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 5: And what we saw was a Clemson team that hung 186 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: in there four half and then the talent took over. 187 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: And for Dabbo, it will be like that for most 188 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 5: of the year against those top teams, because they're good 189 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: enough to compete for about a half, but then the 190 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 5: experience and the expertise takes over. And that's what you 191 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: have when it gets to the second albs. And that's 192 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 5: why Georgie was able to walk away from the Clemson 193 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: Tigers in the second half. 194 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: Your response and your reasoning is right on spot on. 195 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: That's not going to farewell with a lums of Clemson. Really, 196 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: it really won't. I mean, they lose, He's gone. I 197 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: mean just just there's no other way around that. 198 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: I mean. 199 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: And this team had been to some pretty lofty heights 200 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: over the last several years and now they've kind of 201 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: dipped a little bit, and what they look like yesterday 202 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: looked like kind of a half the team they were 203 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: years ago. And it's all about the players, and you 204 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: don't pay the players, you're not going to win that's 205 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: what it's all about. You're talking about Heisman candidates. Seemed 206 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: looking about Carson Beck in that game. Is he threw 207 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: for almost two hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns. 208 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he's gonna get some Heisman votes. And 209 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: Georgia looks like they're rolling, and you know, they don't 210 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: know what it's like to lose. They may not lose 211 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: a game this year. 212 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 5: Well you got to remember to think about Georgia. Georgia 213 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: should have been included in the playoff last year, right 214 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 5: they had a late loss. They kind of kept them out. 215 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 5: They didn't mollywap Florida State in a bowl game. They 216 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: kind of let you know how they were still smarting 217 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 5: from that loss. They entered the preseason ranked number one. 218 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: People talk about Ohio State, but really, look, it begins 219 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 5: and ends with Georgia. When Georgia is playing their game. 220 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 5: The few teams in the country that can match who 221 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 5: they are and what they're about, and so their physicality, 222 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: their toughness, their discipline, the fact that Kirby Smart has 223 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: guided his team to back to back national titles in 224 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: his past. He has that pedigree, He knows what it 225 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: takes to build a winner. You saw it on display. 226 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 5: And for Clemson, I think it's an example of how 227 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: quickly things can turn. 228 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: In a sport that is really driven by recruiting. 229 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: The quarterback position for Clemson has not been the same 230 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 5: since Trevor Lawrence left. 231 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: They've not been able to feel that void. 232 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 5: And the thing that made clemp seeing great is they 233 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 5: had three quarterbacks that were really good in secession. 234 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: They had TODJ. 235 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: Boyd, they had Deshaun Watson, then they had Trevor Lawrence. 236 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 5: And that team is driven by the play of the quarterback. 237 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 5: Georgia is not a team that's driven by the player 238 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: of the quarterback. They're driven by the player of their 239 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 5: stars at other positions. And so Dabbo just may have 240 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: to tweak his model to where when he's recruiting he 241 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: puts a little more emphasis on some of the other 242 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: positions until he's able to find that five star quarterback 243 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: that's able to get him over the hump. 244 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I hope they give him that time. I 245 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: really do. I think that. 246 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 4: I know. Here's the thing. 247 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: He seems like a good guy. 248 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the thing, Andy. 249 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: The buyout after this year is sixty million dollars anywhere. 250 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: He's not going to. 251 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, after twenty twenty six it drops down, but it 252 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 5: only drops down to fifty seven million. So the Clempson 253 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: people can complain, But Dabo Sweeney's gonna get eleven million 254 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 5: a year for the next five, six, seven years. 255 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: That's just that's what it is. 256 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: And look, there are a lot of people that will 257 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: wish look who are not who are okay with devils 258 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: Sweeney failing, And part of that is because some of 259 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 5: his stands is on certain things. Some of people are 260 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 5: maybe turned off by the Bible thumping waves or whatever. 261 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 5: They don't like his old school comments when it comes 262 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 5: to transfer and stuff like that. But they got to 263 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: sit and watch him in oorngs because he's gonna run 264 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 5: down the hill for the next decade. 265 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: He's gonna be there. 266 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that he needs to get a good quarterback. 267 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: You know that brings up another question that I have 268 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: on my mind. Yesterday, Michigan the defending champs, they play 269 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Freshno State. I don't think there'd be a problem in 270 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: that game, thirty to ten. They rolled over them. However, 271 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: the quarterback situation was Davis Warren. 272 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: This kid was a walk on. 273 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: How does a walk On become a starting quarterback and 274 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: like the former number one team in the land, that 275 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: to me blows me away. The walk On I mean, 276 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: you know about Dabo Sweety, can't get a I'm on 277 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: the transfer. He's got this kid's will walk on it. 278 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: He's starting for Michigan. I mean then they took him 279 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: out after a while, obviously, but still in all I 280 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: don't get it. I mean, how are things that bad 281 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: at Michigan that I have to get to walk On 282 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: to start a quarterback? 283 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 5: Well, one, I don't want to disparage walk Ons, because 284 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 5: walk Ons are guys that take advantage of opportunities where 285 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 5: they may have been overlooked heading into the you know, 286 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: in the recruiting scheme. 287 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: The other part about. 288 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 5: It is like, depending on what Sharon Moore was looking 289 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: for in a starting quarterback, David Warren may have been 290 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 5: able to give him that. Maybe he want it smart 291 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 5: to someone who is more of a game manager, who 292 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: could execute the offense and not really have a playmaker 293 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 5: in the thing. The other thing, when it came to 294 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: the other quarterback, Oji, it's about do you believe that 295 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 5: he's ready to handle all the pressures that come with 296 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: being the quarterback. Sometimes it's easier to bring that guy 297 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 5: off the bench, let the game kind of get going, 298 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: let the game get into a flow, then insert them 299 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: when some of the nerves kind of been calmed down. Look, 300 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 5: it's a situation where I feel like everyone that watches 301 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 5: Michigan is always going to be upset because they play 302 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: a throwback style that is not necessarily popular with the fans. 303 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: Everyone wants to see the ball flying in the air 304 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 5: and high flying and it's fun and exciting, and that's 305 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 5: not how Michigan wins games. You know, I find it 306 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: funny that they want thirty to thirteen, but everyone is 307 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: complaining about the quarterback and all that other stuff. Instead 308 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: of appreciation, it's appreciating the fact, Like, look, the defense 309 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 5: played pretty well in wink Martindale's debut. Offensively, they were 310 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 5: able to run the football and they got it done 311 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. This is how Michigan football looks. 312 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: It's never going to be a runaway or whatever. It's 313 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 5: always going to be a little ugly. But they still 314 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: find themselves in the winter circle. 315 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: Right, And you talked about wink markin Nail's day debut. 316 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: What about Chip Kelly's debut as a new offensive coordinator 317 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: at Ohio State. At the Ohio State University, they rolled 318 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: over Akron fifty two to six. And you know what, 319 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: I get it, Achron, you know, and Buck, I'm going 320 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: to tell you right now. I look at these schools 321 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: and I could kick myself because so many schools like 322 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: Tennessee rolled over Chattanooga. I could have played for some 323 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: of those schools, Bucky Brooks, I could have played there. Really, 324 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: I could have been something, really, And I don't know 325 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: why I never looked at the even my namesake school, Furman. 326 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: I could have played for these schools, right, And they 327 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: played Old Miss that got killed yesterday, Firman against Old Miss. 328 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: But you know what, I blew it. I blew it. 329 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: But you know, if I had a buddy like you 330 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: growing up who played football, you would have tagged me along, 331 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: say look, come on, tryal for the team. I could 332 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: have played for a smaller school. But you know that's it. 333 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: You know, maybe in another life I will. But Ohio 334 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: State looked tough and they received Jeremiah Smith had two touchdowns, 335 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: number one, number one, number two in the class of 336 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: receivers last year, so Ohio States could be tough. They 337 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: could be the national champs this year. But again I'm 338 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: not judging against Akron because that's the school I could 339 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: have played for. 340 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: No. 341 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: But the thing about Ohio State is they bring on 342 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: Ship Killy as the off coordinated, a guy who left 343 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: his head coaching position at UCLA to be an offensive coordinator. 344 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 5: Forgot it was a former player and a close friend. 345 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 5: The other thing that Ohio State has done is they've 346 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: upgraded their personnel. They have been one of the teams 347 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: that have really lived in a transfer portal when it 348 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: comes to taking top talent from other schools. So you 349 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: think about that big old payroll in the salary cap 350 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 5: era that we're not living in in college. They've been 351 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: able to take advantage of that, and so they have 352 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: the best roster that money can buy. The thing that 353 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 5: you have to wonder about with Ohio State is everyone 354 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: is waiting until they played Michigan at the end of 355 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 5: the season. And then the other part of Ohio State 356 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 5: is how do they fare when they have to take 357 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: on the big boys in the playoff? Namely, what does 358 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: it look like when they have to face off against Georgia. 359 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: Because right now, I don't care what anyone says Michigan 360 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: was a national champ, but everyone is measuring themselves against 361 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 5: the Georgia Bulldogs. It is clear and apparent. Over the 362 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 5: last three to four years they've been the most dominant 363 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 5: team in football, and the only way you're going to 364 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: beat them is you have to be able to play 365 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: outplay them. 366 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: In their style. Can you be more physical than them? 367 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 5: Can you go toe to toe with a heavyweight puncher 368 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: that not only has the ability to throw haymakers, but 369 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 5: they can knock you out with relentless body blows. That's 370 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 5: the Georgia Bulldogs, and most teams aren't able to deal 371 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: with their physicality and toughness over four quarters. Yeah, they're 372 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 5: extremely talented, but it's the toughness in the physicality that 373 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: stands out to me when I watched it. 374 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: I got something I want to share with you, and 375 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it on the other side because 376 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: it's gonna be big. It's gonna be really big. 377 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: I knew either going to say, wow, that's not there 378 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: or you're an idiot, so but still I want to 379 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: share this with you because I thought about this for 380 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: a second. As I mentioned coming into the segment, it's 381 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: more than W's and l's and I didn't even touch 382 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: on that yet, but we will do that. 383 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: He's Bucket Brooks. 384 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: Get him on X, get him on Twitter, get him 385 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: anyway you want to get him, but it's at Bucket Brooks. 386 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: Mike Carminal, join us at our number three. Get him 387 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome, Swallen Dome, will join us out with 388 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: three out, Andy Furman FSR. Take your phone calls at 389 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. 390 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: And if the two. 391 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: Foolish to understand what that means, that means eight seven 392 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: seven nine nine six six three six nine is bucky 393 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: in this hour? Bonaberrel Betting. I went over too, and 394 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: of course the Swollen dim himself, Mike Harmon and I 395 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: were number three. Now, well, will what major conference look 396 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: like this year? Well that's next. 397 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 398 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 6: Polly Foods Go here with Tony Foods Go Yeah, and 399 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 6: everybody knows we're the hosts of the award winning Polly 400 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: and Tony Foods Go show. 401 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 402 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 6: But instead of us telling you how great we are, 403 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 6: here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on 404 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 6: our show. 405 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated. 406 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: You don't interrupting our promo. 407 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. 408 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: You took those clips totally of context. 409 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 410 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 6: out and beat you. 411 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: Let me put this into context. 412 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Shut up. 413 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Toni Foosco 414 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 6: Show on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts wherever you get your podcasts. 415 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a look at the future. 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Every Sunday morning, listen to 425 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: Count Out the Kickoff presented by bet MGM right here 426 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, and of course the iHeartRadio ad. 427 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: Now here's my idea if I may you know wins 428 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: and losses are great, and everybody judges a team by 429 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: the wins and losses. I think that there should be 430 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: some sort of a formula where they judge the team 431 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: on the toughness of their schedule. Tell me I'm crazy, 432 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: but maybe I'm not. I looked at the SEC games 433 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: right now, book, the toughest schedules right now, USC, Florida Tennant. 434 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: Florida's at Tennessee, Georgia's at Texas, USC schedule, LSU they 435 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: got at Michigan, they got Notre Dame. Michigan's got Texas, Oregon, 436 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: they're at Ohio State, UCLA schedule at LSU, Oregon, Penn State. 437 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: So I looked at the toughest schedules of last year 438 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: and the toughest schedules of this year. Last year the 439 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: top three Virginia, Michigan State. 440 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: And believe it or not, Arizona State. And this year 441 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: the toughest schedules. 442 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: This is unbelievable, really, Florida number one, UCLA two, USC three, 443 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech four and guess who's five, the Cougars of Houston. 444 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: So I mean, there's gotta be something weighted in there. 445 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: Postseason bids, so to speak, playoff opportunities to have the 446 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: toughness of their schedule locked in there, because it's just 447 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: more than wins and losses, and it's more than just 448 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: winning your conference. 449 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 4: Don't you agree, Yeah, I mean there has to be 450 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: waited in there. 451 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: O Wise, teams are going to stop scheduling tough games 452 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 5: early in the year. The one thing that the twelve 453 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 5: team playoff does though, it gives you a chance if 454 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: you lose early, you still have an opportunity to climb 455 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: back into the postseason field. Before, losses were detrimental, not 456 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 5: necessarily early, but later. So you had to pick and 457 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 5: choose how you schedule was comprised depending upon the level 458 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 5: of talent within your conference. You didn't want to overschedule 459 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 5: and beat yourself up and not give yourself a chance 460 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: to be one of the last team standing at the end. 461 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see how these SEC teams and 462 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: the Big Ten teams, because those are the two best 463 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: conferences in terms of loaded with personnel, how they elect 464 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 5: to play their non conference games. Do they go for 465 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 5: the tough schedule or do they kind of sprinkled with 466 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: cupcakes and allow their league record their conference games to 467 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: kind of do the talking when it comes to how 468 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 5: good they are. 469 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: Right, So let's look at this for a second. 470 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: We look at the toughest schedule, and we look at 471 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: the University of Houston at number five during the Big 472 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: Twelve right now, So say they have two or three maybe, man, 473 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: they're two losses in the Big Twelve, but they're not 474 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: gonna win the Big Twelve conference? Do they get the 475 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: bid because they're the toughness of their schedule? I think 476 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: they probably be overlooked because of the other teams that 477 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: have one loss or no losses that will take that 478 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: before the Cougars of Houston. That's why I think you 479 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: have to weigh in the toughness of the schedule. 480 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think they certainly will have some 481 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: kind of formula, right, like have a formula for what 482 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 5: they want to do and how they want to. 483 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 4: Do it and those things. 484 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: It'll be important that you reward the teams that play 485 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 5: and knock off the hard teams, because otherwise, why would 486 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 5: you be incentivized to play a tougher schedule in the future. 487 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: There has to be something kind of in the books 488 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 5: that enables teams to benefit from playing a tough schedule. 489 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 5: Otherwise teams will drop all their tough games and just 490 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: wait for the league games to play and let you know, 491 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 5: put it on the voters or the people that are 492 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: evaluating the talent to determine what's good and what's not. 493 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: We heard some rumblings about that a couple of weeks 494 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: ago when USC said they may drop the Notre Dame game. 495 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: Remember they said that the coaching staff at USC and 496 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: it may happen. 497 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it may happen. 498 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: And it could be a thing where you do that 499 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 5: because you're trying to make sure that you don't overpopulate 500 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 5: your schedule with tough games, right because if you feel 501 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: like the league is gonna be tough enough, and we 502 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: look at the Big Ten and we just think about 503 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: off the top of our head, Ohio State, Michigan are 504 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: gonna be tough, that some other teams that could emerge 505 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: as tough teams, like Nebraska could be a tough team 506 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: and the Big Ten all of a sudden with their 507 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: quarterback Dominic Ryola. So there, I mean, there's some other 508 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 5: teams that you don't want to have to deal with 509 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: Penn State and all those other teams. So that I mean, 510 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: depending on what you have on your Big ten schedule. Yeah, 511 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: you don't want to put too many up there. You 512 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 5: want to space it out. And with the length of 513 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 5: the schedule and with the travel that's also involved, all 514 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: of those things have to be considerations when you're building 515 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 5: your schedule out. 516 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: Right, I tell you what we're talking about the conference. 517 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: Talk about the schedule. Let's talk about the PAC twelve 518 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: four second and only two teams remain Oregon and Washington State, 519 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: all right, And my question would be this, if you're 520 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: a kid out of high school, I mean Oregon State 521 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: and Washington State. If you're a kid out of high 522 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: school and you're being recruited by one of those two teams, 523 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: why would you even go there? But there's only a 524 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: two team conference? 525 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Or money? You know, obstup, it's money. They throw the 526 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 3: money after you're gonna go there? 527 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 5: I mean, no, you're I mean, but you're hoping that 528 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: it's temporary, right, that it's not gonna be permanent, that 529 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 5: it's a two team conference forever. You're hoping that they 530 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: eventually will find a way to have a different conference, 531 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 5: either they fold in all of the teams in the 532 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 5: Mountain West or the Whack or something. But you hope 533 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 5: they create some kind of conference where you're able to 534 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: get the notoriety that you want. But right now, yeah, 535 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: it's a tough sale. It's a tough seal. If you're 536 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 5: Washington State and Oregon State, you're D one, you play 537 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 5: D one ball, but you you're without a home. 538 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: Really that makes it tough. But if you play good ball, 539 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: people are show up. 540 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm going to talk about the future of that 541 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: conference is so much more. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Indy Firm, 542 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: and we are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Rady 543 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: And there's a new signal caller for one NFL team 544 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: that's coming up next on Fox Live for the Tyraq 545 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: dot com studios. But first, our guy, Kevin Why with 546 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: all your sports. Yeah, I don't know if you've heard, 547 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: but college football is back. We had Week one, the 548 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: first full Saturday of college football. Actually, ya know, we 549 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: had Week zero. That was a good little appetizer, but 550 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: we were back in full swing on a Saturday. We 551 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: did have two games featuring a matchup of two ranked 552 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: teams on Saturday, the first one in Atlanta, Georgia and Clemson, 553 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: the top ranked Bulldogs. It was just a six to 554 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: nothing lead in their favor at halftime against Clemson, but 555 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: man that second half, it was all Georgia, outscoring the 556 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: Tigers by twenty five points in the second two quarters 557 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: as they beat Clemson at thirty four to three. Down 558 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: in College Station Notre Dame, Texas A and M, this 559 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: was a low scoring affair six ' six. 560 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: At the half. It was six to six going well 561 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: into the third quarter and tied at thirteen, but in 562 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: the last two minutes Notre Dame scoring at ten unanswered 563 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: as Marcus Freeman and his boys get the win to 564 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: begin their season twenty three to thirteen. Elsewhere in at 565 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: college football number three Oregon, Oh That was a nail 566 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: by iter for the Ducks over in Eugene playing FCSFO Idaho, 567 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: and it was a three point game late in the 568 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, but the Ducks do survive winning at twenty 569 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: four to fourteen as Dylan Gabriel had at three hundred 570 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: and eighty passing yards and two touchdowns. Number nine Michigan. 571 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a struggle early on 572 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: against Fresno State was actually sixteen ten, which is six 573 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: minutes to go, but Michigan does win by a score 574 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: that was much closer than it's that indicated thirty to ten, 575 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: number nineteen Miami. This was a dominating win against Florida 576 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: forty one to seventeen, seeing some of that you swagger 577 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: coming back and elsewhere in college football, Ole Miss and 578 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: Furman that was a shutout win. Same thing for Alabama 579 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: and Western Kentucky sixty three nothing, Texas fifty two, no 580 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: thing over Colorado State, Ohio State fifty two to six 581 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: winners against Akron in the NFL was a tragic story yesterday. 582 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: Ricky pier Saw, the rookie receiver for the San Francisco 583 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. He was shot during an attempted robbery 584 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, shot in the chest as the attempted 585 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: the suspect attempted to take his Rolex watch, and the 586 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: police in San Francisco announcing that in arrest has been 587 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: made a seventeen year old juvenile from Tracy, California, and 588 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: Tracy's about an hour hour and fifteen minutes outside of 589 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco, So a guy from outside the area allegedly 590 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: committing that crime, according to the San Francisco Police Department. 591 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: No details other than that have been released. Presumably because 592 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: the suspect is a juvenile. Major League Baseball, with all 593 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: the hoopla of college football, we have to remember that 594 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: there are Pennant race is going on right now. The 595 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: wild card getting a little tighter, especially in the National League. 596 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: The Mets winning on Saturday, beating the hapless White Sox 597 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: five to three, and they taken advantage of a loss 598 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: by the Braves, the Philly shutting the Mountain Philadelphia three nothing. 599 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: So that wildcard lead four Atlanta now just sits at 600 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: two games over. In the National League, the AL Central 601 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: one of the tighter races in baseball. Most of the 602 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: divisions are starting to widen, but that Ale Central pretty tight. 603 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: But all three of those top teams in the American 604 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: League Central losing on Saturday, the Guardians, the Royals and 605 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: the Twins all falling. So right now the division unchanged 606 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: from yesterday. Cleveland two and a half up on Kansas City, 607 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: three and a half up on a Minnesota. 608 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, thank you so much, Cochina. Now, 609 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: now is this possible? We'll explain that in just about 610 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: a minute. He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firm. We 611 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: are Fox Football. Sunday We'll have asked Bucky in about 612 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: seven eight minutes for now to put a little close 613 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: here on this PAC twelve which is now too. They've 614 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: gotten out of this partnership with the Mountain West Conference. 615 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 2: It's a group of five teams, so Oregon State and 616 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: Washington State they're eligible for the seven at large bids 617 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: in the twelve team college football Playoff, and the Mountain 618 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: West they get some good cash out of this deal. 619 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: So maybe that's the future. I don't know, but you know, 620 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: if you're a Mountain West guy, you were recruited by 621 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: a Mountain West team, not a bad deal. Now you're 622 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: going to play against some big time players. I mean 623 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: only two schools, but still in all they getting some 624 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: good money for that. 625 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: So here's the deal to talk about. 626 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: Is it possible to have a new signal call for 627 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: one NFL team? 628 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: All right? 629 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: We talk about offensive coordinators. Tell me about the old 630 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: coordinators in the National Football League? 631 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: Do they work alone? Did I work with the head coach? 632 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: You know? 633 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: How do they make there? Those first fifteen plays we 634 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: always hear about on TV? How do they do that? 635 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: Well? 636 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 5: I mean the offensive coordinator is responsible for coming up 637 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: with the plan and it's a collaborative effort. All the 638 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 5: offensive coaches kind of get together and put that together. 639 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 5: And typically within a coaching staff, you may have the coordinator, 640 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: but then you kind of divvy up the duties when 641 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 5: it comes to certain things. So one coach may be 642 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: responsible for the run game. That typically is the offensive 643 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 5: line coach and or the running back coach that are 644 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 5: talking about the run game and what's important whether they 645 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: want to get accomplished. You have someone who's responsible for 646 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: a third down offense. 647 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: That might be your. 648 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: Wide receiver coach or your quarterback coach that will sit 649 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: there and kind of come up with a here are 650 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: the best things that we have available to us on 651 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 5: third down. Then you'll talk about two minuted offense and 652 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 5: the menu and what we like. And you also will 653 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: have a little part on your sheet where you look 654 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: at your players and you're trying to figure out, hey, 655 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: who are the guys that we have to get the 656 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 5: ball to, And you have that on your call sheet, 657 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: two or three little segments that may feature six to 658 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 5: eight plays each on how to get the ball to 659 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 5: my best players, whether it's a quarterback, I mean, whether 660 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: it's a wide receiver or a running back or a 661 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 5: tied end where you these are balls. These are plays 662 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 5: where we're going to make sure that they get the 663 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 5: ball and have an impact on the game. So the 664 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 5: offensive coordinator comes up with that and then he consul 665 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: us with the quarterback. A lot of times throughout the week, 666 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: offensive coordinators and quarterbacks are meeting or having steady dialogue 667 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 5: about what the quarterback likes, and a lot of times 668 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: the good coordinators they defer to the quarterback based on hey, man, 669 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 5: I can see it, I feel it, I'm comfortable in 670 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 5: this play. I have a lot of confidence when we 671 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: run this play. I don't like this play. I just 672 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: don't get it how it works, and a good coordinator 673 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: will throw those things out. So it's really a collaborative 674 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: effort between the coaches and the quarterback in terms of 675 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 5: what plays are called, what plays make it to the 676 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: game plan, and ultimately what the first fifteen looks like. 677 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: I tell you why I asked you that question, because 678 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: for so many years we hear about interviews with offensive 679 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: coordinators where they're going to do, they want to run, 680 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: they want to pass. I've never heard an offensive coordinator 681 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: say he has to go and talk to the defensive 682 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: coordinator to find out what kind of defense is going 683 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: to be thrown against him on that particular week. Because 684 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: if you're playing a team that's really tough upfront, they 685 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: got a tough up front four and you can't run 686 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: against them, maybe you're going to turn it to a 687 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: passing game more so than a running game. 688 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: And I never really heard that. 689 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: So the offensive coordinator, he's not just gonna lay out 690 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: the tough fifteen or first fifteen plays because he wants 691 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: to get the ball to the guys on his team 692 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: that are great playmakers. He's got to kind of coordinate, well, 693 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: who am I playing against? You know, if you're playing 694 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: against a tough defense, like they just have a tough secondary, 695 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: you know we're gonna have a tough time getting the 696 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: ball out there. 697 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: Maybe we should run more. 698 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: And I have never heard the offensive coordinator is saying 699 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: I have to check with the decordinator on my play selection. 700 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 3: Am I off based on that? 701 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: No? 702 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 5: Okay, you're not off base, But that's not necessarily the 703 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 5: old coordinator's job. 704 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: So here here's what happens. 705 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you had a specific example 706 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 5: when you heard offense coordinator talk, but typically what happens 707 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 5: is the head coach sits all of the coaches down 708 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 5: and early in the week when they're formulating the game plan, 709 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 5: they're talking about a, right, here's the team that we 710 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 5: have on deck. This is what they do officely, this 711 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: is what they do defensively. Offense coordinator, how do you 712 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 5: think you need to attack them? Defensive coordinator, how do 713 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: you believe that you need tack them? The head coach 714 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 5: as those guys are formulating their plan, he will say, hey, guys, 715 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 5: here's how we have to play the game to win it. 716 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: And what he'll say is, this is one where a offensively, 717 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 5: we may need to be a little more conservative. We 718 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: feel like we got them under control on defense, so 719 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 5: you don't have to really risk it for us to 720 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: be able to win a kicking game. 721 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 4: Look, we may have to. 722 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 5: Do a fake punt, a kick, an onside kick to 723 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: maybe still a possession, So be on alert because we 724 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: may be overmatched. And what he'll do is he'll give 725 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 5: the overview on how the game needs to be played 726 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 5: with all three phases tied in, and then it's up 727 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 5: to the leaders of those three phases offense, defense, kicking 728 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: game to come up with a game plan that suits 729 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: the head coach's vision, but ultimately it's the head coach 730 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 5: who determines how they balance each other up and how 731 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 5: they play complimentary football. 732 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: All right, that sounds great, and I love to hear 733 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: that because I have a better understanding. However, let's go 734 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: back over here to Taylor Swift. How does she ended up? 735 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: Pich Jerry. I'll tell you you. 736 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: Know, last year she took the NFL by storm after 737 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: she started dating Kansas City chief tighter Travis Kelsey. All Right, 738 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: she went to many games and then they say it 739 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: became really apparent and that she got really engaged in 740 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: the game a lot deeper than just a fan on 741 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: a superficial level because she was dating Travis Kelsey. 742 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: All right. 743 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: She had an interview the other day with Chris Simms 744 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: of NBC previewing the kickoff game that they got to 745 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: Ravens next Thursday, and Patrick Mahomes said that Taylor Swift has. 746 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: Been drawing up plays. I say what I mean drawing. 747 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean I couldn't draw up a play, but Taylor 748 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: Swift is drawing up plays. So she's drawing up plays. 749 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: And now it's been written that Andy Reid is really 750 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: to take place from anywhere. He's always encouraging players to 751 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: bring up ideas. He took a play from the nineteen 752 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: forty eight Rolls Ball I read, and they borrowed one 753 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: from a Green Bay janitor while he's with the Packers. 754 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: So is it possible that Taylor Swift is going to 755 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: give Andy Reid a play that he would insert in 756 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: a game this year? 757 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: Yes, it's very possible. 758 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 5: Having played for Andy, Andy was a tied end coach 759 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 5: and eventually quarterback coach in Green Bay when I was 760 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 5: playing with the Green Bay Packers in the mid nineties. Yeah, 761 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 5: Andy's always been a bit of a free spirit and 762 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 5: a creative mind, and I think you will find that 763 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 5: most coordinators and coaches always willing to steal. 764 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 4: Like there's nothing in football. 765 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 5: That has just been invented out of the air. It 766 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 5: has always been taken him somewhere and maybe you add 767 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 5: a little spin or twist to it. So I'm not 768 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: surprised to hear him say that he would take anything, 769 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 5: and I wouldn't be surprised to see them run a 770 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 5: play that maybe Taylor Swift has drawn up and given 771 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: to Travis and Travis passes it on to Andy Reid. 772 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: It's playly gonna happen Thursday night. I can't wait, really. 773 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, Andy Firmer, Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Now, 774 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: the NFL season starts in days from now, and we 775 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: got some questions, really, so asked Bucky at freaking next. 776 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 777 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 778 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 7: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 779 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 7: listen live. 780 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: All right, asked Bucky. 781 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: Right around the corner, It's about twelve minutes before the 782 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 2: top of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday on 783 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman 784 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: and will live from the Tyraq dot Com studios. And 785 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: obviously we mentioned that the NFL season will start Thursday 786 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: evening Baltimore, Kansas City or rematches last year's playoff. And 787 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: you know we have some questions. So who better to 788 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: ask the Bucky Brooks. 789 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 3: Are we ready to go? Let's do it? All right? Question? 790 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: Now talking about the Green Bay Packers that the package 791 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: strike gold with their quarterback Jordan Love or is it 792 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: too soon to make that decision? 793 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 5: It appears a strugg goal. But I will still say 794 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 5: the sample size is really small. A lot of the 795 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 5: excitement the big payday that he received was off of 796 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 5: half of the season. The last half of the season, 797 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 5: from Week eleven through the wild Card round, he had 798 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 5: what an eighteen to one touchdown in interception ratio, which 799 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 5: was remarkable. But it's a seven eight game sample size. 800 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 5: The real measure of what Jordan Love is and what 801 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 5: he can be will be this season because the entire 802 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 5: league has had an opportunity to study his game, to 803 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 5: pick apart his strengths and weaknesses, and they're going to 804 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 5: try and make him play to his weaknesses. So how 805 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 5: quickly can Jordan Love counter the counter tactics that people 806 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 5: use against him? That will determine if he's good or 807 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: if he can be a great player at the position. 808 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: All right, speaking with quarterbacks, let's stick with the quarterbacks 809 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 2: right now. Baker Mayfield, he bet on himself after the 810 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns gave up on him. He signed low with 811 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Bucks. Was that a good bet for him? 812 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? It was a great bet for him. 813 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 5: You know, he was able to parlay two bad experiences into. 814 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 4: I would say, a better version of himself. 815 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 5: When he got the Tampa Bay The things that impacted 816 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 5: him Carolina and then in La has helped him become 817 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 5: a better player in Tampa. When he went to Tampa, 818 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 5: everyone would tell you humility was big on this thing. 819 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 5: Really ingratiated himself to the locker room. The guys loved him, 820 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 5: and then when it came to the play, he still 821 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 5: brought the energy and the confidence and swag that has 822 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 5: always been. 823 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 4: A part of him. 824 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 5: But I think he'd been a look, he'd been humbled 825 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 5: by some of the failures. That has made him a 826 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 5: better player. That's made him better able to connect with 827 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 5: the guys, and I think the team rides with him 828 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 5: because they do know that he's kind of one of them, 829 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 5: while also having the cockiness and the swagger that you 830 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 5: need to have to be an elite QB want of 831 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 5: this league. 832 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: All right, question now, who's going to take Aaron Donald's 833 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: place as the most dominant defender in the NFL this season? 834 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 5: Most dominant defending in the NFL this season. That's a 835 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 5: tough one. I would say that there were some guys 836 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 5: that were already vying for that honor. Miles Garrett from 837 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns is one, Tjat is another, and I 838 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: would say Chris Jones from the kN City Chiefs is 839 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 5: the third. To me, they are the three best defensive 840 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: players in the league. Some would say throw Michael Parsons 841 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 5: in there. We'll see about Michael Parsons and how he 842 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 5: deals in Mike Zimmer's defense. 843 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 4: Let's just see how Mike Zimmer alectx to use him. 844 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 5: He will not be given the freedom that maybe he 845 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 5: was given in the previous version of the Cowboys defense, 846 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 5: and so that can neutralize some of his impact, some 847 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 5: of his splash playability. 848 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: All right, who do you think is going to be 849 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four MVP. 850 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 5: Well, the easy bet is to always go with Pat Mahomes, right, 851 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 5: because if you're willing to think that they're going to 852 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 5: go on. 853 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 4: A three pete or be in the conversation. Yes. 854 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 5: The other thing why Pat Mahomes would appear to be 855 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 5: the front running the favorite is, Look, he didn't win 856 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 5: in the last couple of years, and the numbers have 857 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 5: not been spectacular this year. They've surrounded him with Xavier Worthy, 858 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown would come into the fold. You think those 859 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 5: numbers would go back to what they traditionally have been. 860 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 5: If he puts up numbers that are forty touchdown range, 861 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 5: he's gonna win it again because that team is gonna 862 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 5: be relevant. 863 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 4: That team is going to be one of the favors 864 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: throughout the year. 865 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: All right, Well, returning interim head coach Antonio Pierce AP 866 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: as you call him, proved to be the right move 867 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 2: for the Raiders this year. 868 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 869 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: It's funny, man, because there are a lot of people 870 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 5: that expect an AP to fall in his face, right. 871 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 5: Maybe it's the bravado, Maybe it's the former player in 872 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 5: him and the way he cares himself that rubs people wrong. 873 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 4: But I think deep down AP is a good coach. 874 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 5: He's also surrounding himself with really good coaches that would 875 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 5: allow him to succeed Tom Coughlin being someone that is 876 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 5: frequently being in the Raiders' facility, You're thinking about Marvin Lewis, 877 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 5: who did a really good job turning around the Cincinna Bengals, 878 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 5: being in the building, so he has the right people 879 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 5: in mind, he understands how to structure it. 880 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 4: The issue that could prevent AP from. 881 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 5: Really thriving quarterback They don't have a quarterback, Governamnshew eight 882 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 5: and O'Connell. They don't have an elite quarterback and that 883 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 5: can keep this team from achieving. It says that the 884 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 5: rest of the roster could bring about if they had 885 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 5: a real quarterback. 886 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: All Right, this is a biggie because I think there's 887 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: a lot of conversation in and around the league on 888 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 2: this question. Is the Bill super Bowl window still opened 889 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: despite those key departures on both sides of the football. 890 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: I don't think it's open. 891 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 5: This is the year where we're gonna see with Josh 892 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 5: Allen who Josh Allen really is. There are a lot 893 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 5: of people that have kind of lumped him in that 894 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 5: category with Pat Mahomes. We'll see if he get elevated 895 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 5: team like Pat Mahomes did when he didn't have all 896 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 5: of the weapons around him. Stefan Diggs, to me, is 897 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 5: a big loss. I know they've kind of been dismissive 898 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 5: of Stefan Diggs, but Stefan Diggs had four straight one 899 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 5: thousand yards season and really steadied the ship when Josh 900 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 5: Allen was rocky as a young player. We'll see how 901 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 5: much he's improved now the Stefan Diggs is gone. 902 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 3: There we go. 903 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: All right, that's asked spucky, but right now we're gonna 904 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: call them BUCkies, diaper dandies. 905 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 3: Yes, we've been that and so much more. 906 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: Next on Fox Football Sunday, All right, BUCkies, newbies coming 907 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 2: right up? Yes, good morning everybody. This is Fox Football 908 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 2: so they Hey, it's Bucky Brooks. I'm a de firman 909 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: on We are broadcasting live from the ti iraq dot 910 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: com studios. Tire rack dot com will help you get 911 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 2: there and on match selection, fast free shaping, free road 912 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 2: has a protection and over ten thousand recommended in storeless 913 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 2: ti rack dot com. The way tire buying should be 914 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, of course, the scout, the coach, the player, 915 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: the author here writes for NFL dot Com every Friday, 916 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: it's wonderful and Bucky Brooks, I'm gonna say you never 917 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: cease to amaze, never ever. And this week the newbies, 918 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. It's amazing how you come up with 919 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: these these subjects. 920 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 3: It's it's great, it's great reading. 921 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: And if you're an NFL fan, you're really missing out 922 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: if you don't go to NFL dot com at least 923 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 2: on Friday and look where it says new scroll down, 924 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: seat bucket Brooks tremendous this week. 925 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: It really is. Buck. 926 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 5: I appreciate you, Andy, but look, I'm gonna say this, 927 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 5: I want you to expand your reading. 928 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 4: Pat. 929 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 5: So you always talk about what I do on NFL 930 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 5: dot Com. I would be remiss if I didn't mention 931 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 5: that I also write for Fox Sports dot Com, and 932 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 5: so that column typically comes out on Thursday. Then you 933 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 5: got the NFL column that comes out on Friday, and 934 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 5: so you have more places if you want to read 935 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 5: my writing. So you can go to Fox, or you 936 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 5: can go to NFL and catch what I'm talking about. 937 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: All right, I didn't know that. I'm glad you told 938 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: me that I will. I would certainly do that right now. 939 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 2: And this week you wrote about the newbies the diaper 940 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: dandy sort of speak, taking a page out of the 941 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: Dick Vitals deal. The rookies, how tough is it? You've 942 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 2: been there, done that. How tough is it for a 943 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: rookie in the National Football League? And I watched the 944 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. I don't know, it's more Hollywood than the reality. 945 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: I think maybe I'm crazy. I do like the rookie 946 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 2: parties of that via when they got to get up 947 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 2: and sing and do that. That's kind of fun telling show. 948 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you do that too? 949 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 4: I did. 950 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 5: I did have to do that when I was in Buffalo. 951 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 5: You have to stand up, you have to give your 952 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 5: draft ranking in terms of like when you were drafted. 953 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 5: You have to talk about what your signing bonus was. 954 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 5: And then you have to sing a song. And sometimes 955 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 5: it can be the song of your choice. Sometimes they 956 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 5: want you to sing your fight song, but you have 957 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 5: to stand up and sing in front of the crew. 958 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: What did you sing? 959 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 5: Well, I sang little Red Corvette by Prince to the 960 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 5: masses because they did not want to hear the fight song. 961 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 5: That was my That was my rookie orientation. That was 962 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 5: my rookie deal, all right. 963 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 2: And that's the only time you did that because obviously 964 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 2: were only a rookie once. But in Green Bay, so 965 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 2: they they make you, I mean, every single rookie has 966 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: to go. Is there a guy that would say, like, 967 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: I'd rather not sing, I don't want to do it. 968 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that? 969 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: I mean I've seen people try that. 970 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 5: But then those are also the people that used to 971 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 5: get taped to the gold post with all kinds of 972 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 5: stuff put on them. So no, that's a part of 973 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 5: the deal, like hazing is not encouraged. But there's some 974 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 5: little I would say, traditions and rituals that you must 975 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 5: go through when you're a rookie. A lot of them 976 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 5: are lighthearted, right, it's nothing like it's singing. It may 977 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 5: be carrying the veterans paths and those things. Some coaches 978 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 5: won't allow any of that to take place, right they'll say, hey, 979 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 5: it's a team, they're none of those things. 980 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: But I could see Tony Dungee not allowing that for 981 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 3: some reason. 982 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, there's some coaches that don't want to 983 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 5: do it because, like veterans will take it a little 984 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 5: too far. Like you hear about the things where you 985 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 5: talk about the rookie dinners, Like we've seen those things 986 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 5: float online where they post receipts of what the veterans had. 987 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 5: The rookies take them out, and then they run up 988 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 5: these extravagant bills, right, bills that are fifteen sixteen thousand dollars, 989 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 5: and they say, oh, we're gonna make the ricky pay. 990 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 5: But ultimately, on a good team, veterans will end up 991 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 5: splitting that bill. But some of those things are rights 992 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 5: and passage, and so when you're a young guy, you 993 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 5: have to do certain things like, hey, you got to 994 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 5: bring the veterans snacks for the plane, so we would 995 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 5: have to run all over town to get certain things 996 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 5: that the veterans wanted on the plane. And you couldn't 997 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 5: be late to the plane, so that might require you to, Hey, 998 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 5: I got to call a Popeyes to make sure that 999 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 5: I have like one hundred pieces of and all this 1000 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 5: other stuff. And then you have veterans who have certain 1001 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 5: things like hey, I want my sweet tea with this 1002 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 5: and not that, and it make sure you get it right. 1003 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 5: Like little stuff like that that are commonplace, and that 1004 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 5: stuff still exists in the league a little bit today. 1005 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 4: But yeah, like they're little different things that you have 1006 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 4: to do. 1007 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about getting from college to the NFL. 1008 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: I think the biggest jump would be, like you're in college. 1009 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 2: You're playing maybe two three years varsity football. You got 1010 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 2: to locker next to you on your left, on your right. 1011 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 2: You know these guys, You've been with them, maybe you 1012 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: even go to class with them. All of a sudden, 1013 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 2: now you're drafted. You're going to a strange town, straight 1014 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: in city, strange players and guys that are somewhat older 1015 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: than you. In fact, in some situations like Tom Brady, 1016 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: they could be as old as your died. Really, I 1017 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: mean that's really, really truly, And you're meeting new people, 1018 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: a new challenge. What's the biggest challenge going from college 1019 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: to the pros? And I got to believe one of 1020 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: them is maybe just a lifestyle. Forget about the game itself. 1021 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: You've played the game, you know how to play. But 1022 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: the lifestyle on your own and meeting new people and 1023 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 2: challenging them. 1024 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 5: A few things that are challenging about the league when 1025 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 5: it comes to being a rookie. One is organizing your 1026 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 5: time so you can get everything done that you need 1027 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 5: to get done. The biggest challenge that you have unlike college, 1028 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 5: like the pros, hey man, it's on you to get 1029 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 5: to places to be on time to do all those things. 1030 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 5: Pro coaches aren't going to hold your hands like college 1031 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 5: coaches sometimes will do, so you've really got to be 1032 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 5: on it when it comes to managing your time to 1033 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 5: get to the places that you need to get to 1034 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 5: on time. The other thing is being a professional. And 1035 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 5: so if I talk about timeliness and punctuality, it also 1036 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 5: requires you to prepare each day like a professional, just 1037 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 5: like everyone else in the country has to get ready 1038 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 5: for their jobs. Playing pro sports is a job, So 1039 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 5: you got to prepare yourself. 1040 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 4: For what's at hand the next day. 1041 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 5: And so that's studying, that's making sure you know exactly 1042 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,919 Speaker 5: what is expected of you the next day, making sure 1043 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 5: you're on it. Then physically doing the things in the 1044 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 5: weight room and not cutting corners, doing the stuff on 1045 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 5: the field to put yourself in a position to get there. 1046 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: And then the other. 1047 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 5: Part of it is playing the game, and playing the 1048 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 5: game against the best in the world. 1049 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 4: Right, So as much as we talk. 1050 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 5: About being the best player in your high school or 1051 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 5: the best player in college, but the league is full 1052 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 5: of the best. And so how do you compete in 1053 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 5: a league that's the best of the best, And how 1054 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 5: are you able to understand where you are in the 1055 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 5: pecking order and adapt and adjust to give yourself a 1056 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 5: chance to make the team. So I may have been 1057 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 5: the best wide receiver in the country, but when I 1058 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 5: go to this team, man, I'm like the fourth or 1059 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 5: fifth best wide receiver on the team. Can I do 1060 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: something on special teams to give me a chance to 1061 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 5: make the team And then to get a jersey on 1062 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 5: game day so I can maybe get into the rotation. 1063 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 5: So it's being able to have enough self awareness to 1064 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 5: figure out what lane do I need to move into 1065 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 5: to get myself a chance to start carving out an 1066 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 5: NFL career. 1067 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I naturally iman when I said the term lifestyle, 1068 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 2: because in college, you may be the big man on campus. 1069 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you're the guy. I mean everybody comes to 1070 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 2: you when it comes to interviews, postgame interviews, they're talking 1071 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: to you. 1072 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: You're the guy. You're like the. 1073 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 2: Face of the team. And now you're trying to make 1074 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: the team. I mean that's a big change from the 1075 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: big man on campus to try to make a spot 1076 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: for yourself. 1077 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: On the team. 1078 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 2: That that's tough, it really is, and I think a 1079 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: lot of people can't handle that, not to not playing 1080 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 2: the game, but just like mentally, like you know, all 1081 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 2: of a sudden, it was all about me. Now no 1082 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 2: one knows my name. Now I don't even have a jersey. 1083 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 5: Now, depending on when you get drafted, people know your name. 1084 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 5: And so I would say the challenge isn't that part 1085 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 5: of it? 1086 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 4: Right? 1087 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 5: I think the challenge is keeping the main thing, the 1088 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 5: main thing, not allowing your off the field to impact 1089 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 5: your on the field. 1090 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 4: Right. So a lot of times when you are a 1091 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 4: scout and you're. 1092 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 5: Looking at players, is hey, do they love the game 1093 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 5: or do they love what the game can bring to them? 1094 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 5: And so you got to figure out what are the 1095 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 5: motivations for each player because there's some guys that get 1096 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 5: caught up in the lifestyle, right, some guys that get 1097 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 5: caught up in the ilo saw the candy land nature 1098 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 5: of being a pro athlete where there are a lot 1099 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 5: of things that are at your disposal if you wanted, 1100 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 5: because you have money and time in those things. But 1101 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 5: can you avoid those distractions and lock in on what 1102 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 5: the main thing is, which is to be a pro 1103 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 5: player and to be a good pro player. 1104 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 4: Some people can't. 1105 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 5: Balance both of those things and a lot of times 1106 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 5: that prevents them from maximizing what their talent could produce 1107 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 5: on the field. 1108 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: Oh, have you picked the top ten rookies that will 1109 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 2: pick outside of the first round in this past year's draft? 1110 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 2: How did you pick these guys and why? And I 1111 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 2: go through some of them in a few minutes. 1112 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 5: So I wanted to have some randomness to the list. 1113 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 5: So I wanted to avoid the first rounders, because everyone 1114 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 5: expects the first rounders to be big impact players. 1115 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 4: That's why they're drafted in the first round. 1116 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 5: But who are the guys that could give you an 1117 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 5: impact by the end of the year that were drafted 1118 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 5: outside of the first round. So I wanted guys that 1119 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 5: would have a chance to be contributors, guys that would 1120 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 5: fit into the long range plans of the team when 1121 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 5: we came through when I was trying to compile this list. 1122 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 2: All right, so let's start off over here. You got 1123 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: the guy, Spencer Rattler. You got him round five. He 1124 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 2: was drafted to pick number one fifty overall and he 1125 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 2: was a quarterback. But the New Orleans Saints, what's the 1126 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: deal with this guy? Is he gonna make it? Can 1127 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: he make it? I mean, you say he's a new beat, 1128 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 2: you know what, you say, he's got some potential. He's 1129 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 2: like a can't miss guy who wasn't picked in the 1130 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 2: first round. 1131 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, not necessarily it can't miss guy. 1132 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 5: But sometimes, I mean, I would say a lot of times, 1133 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 5: eighty five percent of the league is about putting players 1134 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 5: in the right scheme that fits their talents. Spencer rather 1135 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 5: is in the perfect fit for him in terms of 1136 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 5: the environment, the scheme in those things. Spencer Rader is 1137 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,280 Speaker 5: a quick rhythm passer who I would say his game 1138 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 5: is eerily similar to the game of Derek Carr. And 1139 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 5: so when you're looking at the backup quarterback position where 1140 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 5: Spencer rather competing with Jake Hayner, Spencer Raler was really 1141 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 5: really solid as a rookie in preseason. He and Jay 1142 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 5: Cayner had comfortable numbers. Normally the tagles to the younger player, 1143 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 5: and because of Derek Carr, and because of the situation, 1144 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 5: if Derek Carr gets beat up, Specer Radler could be 1145 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 5: in the game. And so I picked him because to me, 1146 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 5: he's the young player who has an opportunity to get 1147 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 5: on the field and to make. 1148 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 4: A huge impact. 1149 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 5: If something happens to Derek Carr and the Saints need 1150 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 5: to win, Spencer Ratler may be the guy to have 1151 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 5: to lead him. 1152 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 2: Let me run this by it because I'm trying to 1153 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 2: connect some dots over here. Derek carrs gould to start 1154 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 2: a quarterback for New Orleans Saints. He went to Fresno State. 1155 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 2: Jake Hayner and I never heard much about this guy, 1156 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: but he went to Fresnoe State. Don't you think that 1157 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: Derek Carr had some input on this Jay Canterer getting 1158 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: drafted by the Saints. 1159 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 4: Uh? 1160 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 5: No, I'll say that Jay Canner kind of did it 1161 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 5: on his own. 1162 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 4: But I mean it's a coincidence. 1163 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 5: But you shouldn't scout the helmet like you got to 1164 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 5: scout the individual players. 1165 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 4: So even though they both were Boydogs and. 1166 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 5: They had the cursive Dog's script on the helmet, doesn't 1167 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 5: mean that you give him the nod just because they 1168 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 5: went to the same school. 1169 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I was just trying to connect some dots over there. 1170 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm too active on that deal. All right, Next 1171 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 2: time that list Carson Steele at running back for the 1172 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, I go crazy if this guy does 1173 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 2: something big because Kansas City like they have to touch 1174 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 2: of gold, they really do. I mean, this guy ran 1175 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: for UCLA. Is there a chance that he could get 1176 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 2: it done in the NFL with Kansas City? 1177 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 4: Oh? I think so. I think you've already seen the toughness. 1178 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 4: He was drafted in Ko. 1179 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 5: No, he wasn't drafted, But this is a kid that 1180 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 5: was a transfer to UCLA, played his final season at 1181 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 5: UCLA and it was terrific. Average almost eight years of carrier. 1182 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 5: During the preseason, you saw the physicality, the toughness. You 1183 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 5: saw him find a way to kind of do those 1184 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 5: I would say, get the dirty yards. 1185 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 4: For Andy Reid. 1186 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 5: That's really critical because the running game has kind of 1187 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 5: been a big part of what they've been able to 1188 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 5: do in key moments down the stretch Isaiah Pacheco. And 1189 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 5: then you add a guy who's similar in terms of 1190 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 5: running style, hard running between the tackles, Carson Steel. There's 1191 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 5: a role that can be created for him to be 1192 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 5: a contributing player and special teams. You know you can 1193 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 5: get the best of him. Just the way that he plays, 1194 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 5: the energy that he plays with. He's gonna be a 1195 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 5: nice special teams contributor. 1196 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: It amazes me. And now let me run this by you. Okay, 1197 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 2: the kid was undrafted, Carson Steele. So what happens he 1198 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 2: comes to camp is he comes to camp through his 1199 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: agent or there's some scout on Kansas City telling someone 1200 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 2: in the personnel department, Hey, give this kid a chance, 1201 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 2: I think he can make it. 1202 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 3: How does that work? 1203 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 5: It works, Like you're saying, it's both, it's the agent 1204 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 5: selling him, and then it's the team and the scouts, 1205 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 5: someone whoever at his area on the West Coast, falling 1206 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 5: in love with him and standing in front of the 1207 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 5: group of sent a coach man, I think this guy 1208 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 5: is a player, and I think we need to make 1209 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 5: sure that we talk about him, we evaluate him, we 1210 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 5: put him up on the board, and even if he's 1211 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 5: not drafted, he would be a guy that would be 1212 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 5: an nice fit for us to come in here and 1213 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 5: compete and maybe he can earn his way onto the team. 1214 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 5: Here is redeeming qualities. This is why I believe he's 1215 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 5: a guy that can be a player in the National 1216 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 5: Football League, and if the higher ups are convincing that 1217 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,479 Speaker 5: they sign them, they bring him in. And really, Andy, 1218 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 5: it's about giving guys opportunities, and if guys take advantage 1219 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 5: of their opportunities, they'll have a way. They have an 1220 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 5: opportunity to make the team. And so that's what it is. 1221 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 5: It may not always be the full roster spot, but 1222 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 5: it's about being in contention where you can make the 1223 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 5: practice squad because making a practice why gives you a 1224 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 5: chance to be elevated. Carson Steel probably surpassed expectations, which 1225 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 5: is why he's on the fifty three man roster. 1226 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 2: It's amazing. It really is an undrafted guy. It's a 1227 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 2: heck of a story, it really is. Now, No, this 1228 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 2: is not such a shock or jailing right, But you 1229 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 2: can't coach speed, and this kid's got speed and running 1230 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 2: back to gott the Dolphins round four, one hundred and 1231 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 2: twentieth pick overall. But I'm not really surprised as much 1232 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 2: as I was with Carson Steel the jail and right thing. 1233 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 2: I mean again, he's a speedster. I mean all you 1234 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 2: got to do learned, learn how to run routes and 1235 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 2: catch the football and it'll be good. 1236 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1237 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 5: I mean, Jalen Wright is a speaker. He's a guy 1238 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 5: from near my hometown. He's from North Carolina. He goes 1239 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 5: to Tennessee, can light it up super fast. And when 1240 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,720 Speaker 5: you think about the Miami Dolphins and how they build 1241 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 5: their offense, I mean they build it around basically a 1242 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 5: world class track team. Look at all the speed they 1243 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 5: have on the perimeter. Well, this is the next player 1244 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 5: to be able to jump in that. For everyone that's 1245 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 5: excited about Devin h Chan, the backup running back behind 1246 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 5: Rahem Moster, but the guy who also showed up and 1247 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 5: made big plays Jalen Wright is every bit as fast 1248 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 5: and it's explosive. Now you're looking at a team that 1249 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 5: has speed, good lore speed. 1250 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 4: Everywhere, and they're gonna take advantage of it. 1251 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 5: I mean, it is a huge addition to their team 1252 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 5: to have a third running back that can really add 1253 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 5: a dimension to the offense with this big playability. 1254 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: All right, now, this is a big, bigclause. This is 1255 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 2: my hometown team, his Cincinnati Bengals, Round three to eightieth pickoverall. 1256 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 2: They drafted a wide receiver of Jermaine Burton. And now 1257 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: we'll of a sudden, you know, it comes to light 1258 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 2: that they may need him because Jamar Chase is doing 1259 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 2: what I do, sitting on his ass right now. 1260 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 3: He's not playing. 1261 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't know why, but Mike Brown 1262 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 2: and the Beker, you got to open up the check, 1263 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 2: but can pay the kid, don't. I don't get it. 1264 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 2: He went to practice the other day and he just 1265 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: went in street closed. He didn't do anything. And I 1266 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 2: really felt bad for coach Zach Taylor because he was 1267 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 2: on TV at his news conference or the day prior 1268 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 2: he said we're gonna work this out. At the day 1269 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 2: to day situation, I have confidence who come to practice 1270 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: and he didn't practice. So what Jamar Chase really did? 1271 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 2: He threw Zach Taylor under the bus. I mean the 1272 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 2: media should not be chastising coach Taylor. They should be 1273 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 2: chastising Jamar Chase because Taylor said he's gonna practice and 1274 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 2: he didn't. So does Jermaine Burton have a shot here? 1275 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 2: He's gonna move up on his death shot. There's no 1276 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. 1277 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, he has a chance to not even up with it. 1278 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 5: Without Jamar Chase, he was gonna be a big factor 1279 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 5: in what the Bengals did. They got rid of Tyler 1280 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 5: Boyd last year, their number three wide receiver. Bringing Jermaine 1281 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 5: Burton in originally was to give them a speedster and 1282 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 5: give them someone. 1283 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 4: Who can give them another big. 1284 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 5: Play weapon on the field alongside t Higgins. In my mind, 1285 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 5: Jermaine Burton is the successor to t Higgins as the 1286 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 5: number two receiver on the team. 1287 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 4: This Jamar Chase thing kind of. 1288 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 5: Came out of nowhere, I would say, in terms of 1289 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 5: the hold in wanting his money, wanted to get paid 1290 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 5: when they are two years left before his deal expires. 1291 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 5: I understand justin Jefferson got paid, but justin Jefferson got 1292 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 5: paid in year four, not in year three. Jamar is 1293 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 5: trying to get paid a year early, and so look, 1294 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 5: they'll figured out. Typically Mike Brown doesn't relent on these things, 1295 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 5: but we'll see. Regardless, Jermaine Burton is expected to be 1296 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 5: a successor on the perimeter to one of the guys. 1297 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 5: He's either going to replace Jamar Chase this season because 1298 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 5: Jamar Chase sits out, or he's eventually going to replace 1299 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 5: T Higgins because T Higgins is playing on a franchise 1300 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 5: tag and they're unlikely to pay two receivers big money. 1301 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 5: Jamaine Burton is gonna be a big role. And I'll 1302 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 5: say this. In preseason he was terrific. He averaged almost 1303 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 5: twenty yards of catch, had two touchdowns. You saw the 1304 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 5: big playability. 1305 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 4: This is a dude that is ready to go. 1306 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 5: If not for some like concerns about his character and 1307 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 5: how you would fit into the locker room, he would 1308 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 5: have been a first round pick. 1309 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 4: This dude is terrifically, I mean, he's a talent good. 1310 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that field, but I think that honestly. 1311 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 2: Next Sunday, the Bengals played the Patriots. I think they 1312 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 2: could beat the Patriots obviously without Jamar Chase. The following 1313 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 2: week they play Kansas City. I'm not so certain they 1314 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 2: could beat the Kansas City Chiefs without Jamar Chase. 1315 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 5: What do you Here's the thing that you got to 1316 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 5: be prepared for if Jamar Chase is holding out like 1317 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 5: that's one thing. 1318 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 4: If Jamar Chase was injured, you still got to play 1319 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 4: the game. 1320 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 5: So you have to build your team kind of with 1321 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 5: depth in mind, knowing that a man sometimes some of 1322 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 5: my front line guys can go down. I have to 1323 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 5: have guys ready to play in case of anything. 1324 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 3: Me. 1325 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't wait for the season to start, 1326 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 2: but I just hope they started full strength and hope 1327 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase plays. I mean, I'm not worried the fact 1328 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 2: that he wasn't practicing because you get that rushed off 1329 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: pretty easily, and you know he's an athlete. He could play. 1330 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 2: There's no doubt my money could do that. They need him, 1331 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 2: they really do, and I need you, Bucky Brooks. Get 1332 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 2: him on X Get him on Twitter at Bucky Brooks 1333 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 2: ay next hour. We got the swollen domen here. That's 1334 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 2: Mike Carmon. Get him on Twitter. Get him on x 1335 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 2: at Swollen Dome at Andy Furman FSR eight seven seven 1336 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. That's our phone number eight seven 1337 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. 1338 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 3: We have in this hour bottom batrel of betting, but 1339 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 3: this vote needs a recount. 1340 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: That's next. 1341 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 2: Name that quarterback we will in just about a minute. 1342 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. We are Fox 1343 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: Football Sunday on Fox. 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Now here's a deal about quarterbacks in 1353 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: the National Football They got the tiers okay, Tier one, two, 1354 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 2: and three, the rowan numeral deal just like the Super Bowl. 1355 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 2: And on social media, Bucket Brooks, I read that the 1356 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, who basically is just the raigning MVP, 1357 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: he was voted a Tier two quarterback by league executives 1358 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 2: and league coaches. How in the hell does that happen 1359 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 2: and why the number two tier quarterback? Come on, really, 1360 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, what else does this guy have to prove? 1361 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 4: Well? 1362 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 5: Andy Unfortunately, like like stylistically, guys will never relent off 1363 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 5: their pre draft grades and pre draft thoughts on Lamar 1364 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 5: Jackson and Lamar Jackson's style. 1365 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 4: Of play, whatever it may not be. 1366 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 5: For every offensive coordinator, you have to understand how offensive 1367 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 5: coordinators think. Offensive coordinators want quarterbacks that can make their 1368 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 5: plays come to life. And a lot of those plays 1369 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 5: are exotic, complex plays that require these intricate patterns and 1370 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 5: throws in those things, and those things may not play 1371 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 5: to the strengths of Lamar's game, and so they'll be 1372 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,919 Speaker 5: downgraded because they'll downgrade Lamar Jackson because of that part 1373 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 5: of it, whether it's how he functions within the pocket. 1374 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 5: They don't want the quarterback to be a runner, etc. 1375 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 4: Etc. 1376 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 5: So Lamar Jackson will never be the type that is 1377 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 5: universally celebrated for his talents. But to be Tier two, 1378 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess I would have to see 1379 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 5: who's in Tier one is Jacksonson in. 1380 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 4: Tier one. 1381 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 5: Because I don't I think that has to do with it. 1382 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's odd to see a two time MVP quarterback. 1383 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 4: Listed as a Tier two quarterback. That's not a common sight. 1384 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 2: I hear your response, and I respect it, totally, really 1385 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 2: do it. But here's my take on this. A lot 1386 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 2: of these coaches and executives, they focus too much on 1387 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 2: his playoff performances. Lamar Jackson's two and four in the postseason. 1388 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 2: He had that home loss to the AFC title game 1389 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 2: last year to the Chiefs, and both of his MVP 1390 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 2: seasons ended with home playoff losses in which the Ravens 1391 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 2: scored only twelve points or less. All right, and they 1392 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 2: were both MVP seasons, So he got that. So they're 1393 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: judging him and what have you done for me lately? 1394 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 2: That's basically it. Hey, you know what I get it. 1395 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 2: It's all about the quarterback. You know, when you win, 1396 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 2: it's him, He gets the glory. When you lose, it's 1397 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 2: him because it's his fault. So because the playoff performances 1398 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 2: were not I guess as expected, they don't give him 1399 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 2: a Tier one now. 1400 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 3: The Tier one now is Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a 1401 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 3: Tier one. 1402 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 2: So who, Bucky Brooks would you rather have on your 1403 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 2: team as a quarterback, Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen. And 1404 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 2: you hit it on the head earlier today, it's going 1405 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 2: to be a big year for Josh Allen without his 1406 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 2: great receiver who's gone. All Right, let's see if he 1407 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 2: could get it done. I would take Lamar Jackson, he 1408 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: could do more. 1409 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would take Lamar Jackson in that scenario too. 1410 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 5: I think the thing about Josh Allen, right, like, Josh 1411 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 5: Allen has performed great, but like some of the inconsistencies 1412 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 5: that plagued than when he was in college also continues 1413 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 5: to show up. The thing about Josh Allen what people 1414 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 5: love is like he's his size, right, he's sixty five, 1415 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 5: he's two hundred and forty pounds. He's improved as a passer, 1416 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 5: so he's completing sixty three percent of his passes. In 1417 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 5: those things, he is being able to take this team 1418 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 5: and he's gotten them to the playoffs. He has nineteen 1419 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 5: game winning drives and stuff like that, which you love. 1420 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 5: But this team has also underperformed. But they would say, hey, 1421 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 5: it's more on the defense than what he did, right, 1422 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 5: they lost in the playoffs to the Kansas City Chiefs 1423 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 5: with thirteen seconds left because. 1424 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 4: The defense let them down. Not that I. 1425 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 5: Understand the fascination because Josh Allen is the new prototype 1426 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 5: in terms of what you want size wise and all that. 1427 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 5: He is exactly what you want, like six y five 1428 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 5: or whatever. But his playoff record, he's five hundred. He's 1429 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 5: five and five. I mean the super about Yeah, there's 1430 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 5: nothing spectactical about his playoff record in those things. But 1431 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 5: he doesn't have what I would call the egregious losses 1432 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 5: that Lamar Jackson has in the playoffs, and so that's 1433 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 5: why people haven't downgraded him. 1434 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,439 Speaker 2: He has the biggest loss right now, Stefan Diggs. That's 1435 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 2: his biggest loss. And I think that's Stefan's Biggs elevated 1436 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I know, in some respects a quarterback of 1437 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 2: the elevator receiver. But I think in Buffalo, Stefan Dicks 1438 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 2: elevated Josh Allen. Without Stefan Diggs, they're gonna be in trouble. 1439 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 2: I will tell you right here and now, and you 1440 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: could write this down take it to the bank. As 1441 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 2: far as you know the season is concerned. I think 1442 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Buffalo will not win the division. I think Miami wins 1443 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 2: that division and they're going to be in trouble. I 1444 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if that I'll made the playoffs. I 1445 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 2: would not be surprised. 1446 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, that's a real consideration. Like they 1447 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 5: they're not guaranteed to go in there. But Sean mcdermmer 1448 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 5: is a really good coach and Josh Allen's a player. 1449 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 5: We've never seen him play at MVP heights like Lamar 1450 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 5: Jackson played. And last year I'll say this about Lamar 1451 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 5: Jackson's MVP, the numbers aren't what you typically would expect 1452 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 5: from an MVP like normally you see like an outer 1453 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 5: worldly season where a quarterback has forty touchdowns or whatever. 1454 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson didn't have that, but he was worthy of 1455 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 5: winning the MVP as the leader of the team that 1456 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 5: was the best during the regular season. However, Josh Allen 1457 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 5: has played well, but he hasn't reached that hype. But 1458 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 5: I will say this, and this could impact it in 1459 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 5: the playoffs. Most recently, Josh Allen had four touchdowns, no interceptions. 1460 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 4: Josh Allen completed. 1461 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 5: Almost sixty nine percent of his passes, so you walk 1462 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 5: away with the perception that, hey man, Josh Allen played 1463 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,280 Speaker 5: really well in the postseason. That's the one thing that cripples. 1464 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 5: That's to kryptonite that people will have for Lamar Jackson. 1465 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 5: So I would just say that they both should be 1466 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 5: ranked on the same tier, whether that's. 1467 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 4: One or two. 1468 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,919 Speaker 5: I think these guys have to be at the same tier. 1469 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 5: I cannot sit here and say that Josh Allen is 1470 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 5: a better quarterback than Lamar Jackson. 1471 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1472 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 3: I tell you what. 1473 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 2: I will go to my grave defending Lamar Jackson. I'll 1474 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 2: tell you why. Not so much because he even football player, 1475 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 2: because to the kind of person he is. Because when 1476 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 2: he was playing for the University of Louisville, I had 1477 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 2: written to him and he wrote me back. That tells 1478 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 2: me every Really, that tells me everything I need to know. 1479 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 3: He's a personable guy. 1480 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 2: And when he comes to Cincinnati this year, I will 1481 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 2: tell him that and thank him again, all right, because 1482 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 2: I think he's a gentleman. 1483 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 3: I like the guy. 1484 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,680 Speaker 2: I think he's a good guy. And his mama is 1485 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: his agent. That tells me a lot too. So I 1486 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 2: like Lamar Jackson. So you know, do me something. What 1487 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 2: can I say that's the what do you eat good? 1488 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 3: I dig it all right, he's bucking Brooks. I'm Athy Firman. 1489 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 2: We are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports right now. 1490 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 2: This is a sure bet that's coming up next Life 1491 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 2: from the Tirack dot Com studios. And there's another shore bet, 1492 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 2: Kevin Wyatt with your Sports. 1493 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the biggest shirt bet right now in college 1494 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 1: football is probably the Georgia Bulldogs. They were one of 1495 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: two ranked matchups we had today, Georgia in number fourteen Clemson, 1496 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and it was close on the first half. The Bulldog's 1497 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: up six nothing at the break, but man, that second 1498 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: half was all Georgia, outscoring the Tigers by twenty five 1499 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: points and roots way dominating thirty four to three victory. 1500 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: The other matchup featuring ranked teams was down in at 1501 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 1: College Station as Notre Dame in Texas A and M 1502 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Who's a tight battle throughout, Tight at six at the break, 1503 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: it was tied at six deep into the third quarter, 1504 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: and tight at thirteen well into the fourth quarter, but 1505 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Notre Dame able to pull away and win it by 1506 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: ten twenty three to thirteen. Oregon had a bit of 1507 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: a scare on Saturday as the Ducks. They were up 1508 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: by just three against Idaho in the fourth quarter, but 1509 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: they do pull away to win at twenty four to 1510 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 1: fourteen as Dylan Gabriel had three hundred and eighty passing 1511 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: yards and a couple of touchdown tosses. Number nine Michigan. 1512 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: It was only a sixteen ten lead against Fresno State 1513 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: was six minutes to go, but they do win it 1514 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: thirty to ten. Number nineteen Miami an absolutely impressive showing 1515 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: against in State of Florida Gators forty one seventeen as 1516 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 1: the U beats Florida Elsewhere in a college football a 1517 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: bunch of blowout wins, especially for SEC teams playing against 1518 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 1: SCS opponents. Ole Miss against Furman seventy seventy six to nothing, 1519 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Alabama over Western Kentucky sixty three to nothing. Colorado State 1520 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: was an FBS team, but didn't do much better against 1521 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Texas as the Longhorns when this one fifty two to nothing. 1522 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: In the NFL, we have an update regarding the shooting 1523 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: and attempted robbery of Ricky piersal As the San Francisco 1524 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Police announcing that they have arrested a suspect in the case. 1525 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,560 Speaker 1: He is a seventeen year old male and he's from Tracy, California, 1526 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: which is about our hour and fifteen minutes outside of 1527 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. He is currently being held on suspicion 1528 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 1: of robbery and attempted murder as the shot per sale 1529 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,560 Speaker 1: in the chest, and we certainly hope he a full recovery. 1530 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: In Major League Baseball, the Pennant races, at least in 1531 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 1: the Wildcards starting to tighten up. The division race is 1532 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: starting to pull away a bit, but Dodgers do beat 1533 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks eight to six. Show Eotani another home run, 1534 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: is forty fourth of the season. Did not attempt to 1535 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: stolen base though, so still has forty three stolen bases 1536 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: as he tries to set a new record for a 1537 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: combination of home runs and steels, the first guy to 1538 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 1: do forty three to forty three, trying to make it 1539 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,599 Speaker 1: forty four to forty four, and the goal everyone's hoping 1540 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: he gets is fifty to fifty. We'll see if you 1541 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: can get that by the end of the season. The 1542 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: wildcard race in the National League, though tightening up as 1543 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: the Braves loose to the Phillies three nothing. The Mets 1544 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: beat the hapless White Sox five to three, so it's 1545 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: a two game lead for Atlanta in the National League Wildcard. 1546 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: The American League Central another tight race as all three 1547 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: of the top teams, though losing on Saturday, Cleveland, Kansas City, 1548 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota all taking l so the division race they're unchanged 1549 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: as Cleveland ahead of CA the City by two and 1550 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: a half. Minnesota is ahead is trailing in that division 1551 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 1: by three and a half, but the Twins do have 1552 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: a three and a half game lead in that wild 1553 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: card over the Boston Red Sox. In the American League East, 1554 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Orioles do have tight battle with the Yankees, 1555 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: that is, New York leading that division by a game 1556 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,919 Speaker 1: and a half. The Yankees do lose to the Cardinals 1557 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: six ' five, so Baltimore on Saturday unable to take advantage. 1558 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: They do lose the Rocky seven to five. So that's 1559 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 1: where those divisions standing set sit right now. Back to 1560 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 1: you guys, all right. 1561 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 2: Thanks keV seeing it now now it's guarantee we'll get 1562 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 2: to that in just about a minute. 1563 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 3: He's Buckey Brooks on Andy Furman. 1564 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 2: We are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. I've 1565 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 2: got bottom borrow betting coming up at about eight nine 1566 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,759 Speaker 2: minutes from now. I don't mean to embarrass you, Bucky, 1567 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 2: but I might with this situation. I want to play 1568 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 2: name the quarterback. I got three different quotes that these 1569 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 2: quarterbacks have said, and I'm gonna give you the quote. 1570 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 3: Maybe you could tell me who the quarterback is. Are 1571 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 3: you ready for that? Can you handle it? Okay? We 1572 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 3: talked about tier one and tier two. 1573 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 2: He said, Josh Allen's a Tier one, and we got 1574 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,639 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's Tier two. 1575 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:12,759 Speaker 3: Here's the quote. 1576 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,799 Speaker 2: Is there a zero category above tier one? What quarterback 1577 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 2: you think said that? 1578 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 5: Is there a zero category over tier one? If you're 1579 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 5: to be someone that is. 1580 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 4: Has a good personality, I don't man over tier one. 1581 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 4: Let's go with Matthew Stafford. 1582 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 2: No, it was Patrick Mahomes, but he received two hundred 1583 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,839 Speaker 2: and forty nine out of two hundred and fifty possible 1584 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 2: Tier one votes over the last five years. 1585 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 3: All right, all right, so you're a zero for one. 1586 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 3: This is good. Christ I'm gonna set you up a 1587 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 3: bottom barrel betting. 1588 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 4: This is great. 1589 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 3: I love it. Here's a quote. 1590 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 2: I wonder if he loves it enough, he should be 1591 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 2: way better than this. I wonder if he loves it enough, 1592 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 2: he should be way better than this. 1593 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 4: I would say, Trevor Lawrence. 1594 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 2: No, Deshaun Watson, Deshaun Watson, all right, last, but not least, 1595 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 2: You're off for two now, book, I'm just saying, you know, I. 1596 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 4: Mean that's exclusive. I mean, no photer friend nothing. 1597 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 1: I know. 1598 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 2: You go back and watch those first four plays before 1599 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 2: he got hurt. 1600 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 3: He did not look good. He looks old. 1601 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 4: Who would that be? Yeah? 1602 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: Being Oh you got that? All right? 1603 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 4: You should have started me with that. I know. 1604 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I didn't do that. 1605 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 2: Okay, now college football. College football is here, and that 1606 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 2: means the returnal of the sports longest and most expensive traditions. 1607 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 3: What is it? 1608 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,640 Speaker 2: Guaranteed games and people could have won the Okay, you 1609 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 2: watched the games yesterday on TV. 1610 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 3: You gotta win. Why does Florida Atlanta play Michigan? 1611 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:51,719 Speaker 4: All right? 1612 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Well? 1613 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 2: Why does Chattanooga play Tennessee? Why does South Dakota State 1614 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 2: play Oklahoma State? 1615 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 3: Why? Money? Money? 1616 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 2: For decades, biggest schools have paid smaller schools big sums 1617 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 2: of money to come play on their home field, and 1618 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,520 Speaker 2: the host team typically gets an easy. 1619 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 3: Win and the visitor gets a nice check and they 1620 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 3: leave happy. Okay, that didn't happen. Last week. 1621 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 2: New Mexico paid three hundred and sixty thousand dollars to 1622 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,640 Speaker 2: Montana State for their zero week opening. Last week, the Bobcats, 1623 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 2: which are an FCC school, a double digit underdog, they 1624 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 2: upset the Low Bowls thirty five to thirty one. 1625 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 3: And do you know that? This week and it continues 1626 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 3: tonight and tomorrow this. 1627 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,719 Speaker 2: Week Week one in football, more than thirty five million 1628 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 2: dollars is being shelled out over fifty five games with 1629 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 2: money guaranteed contracts. 1630 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, really, it really is. 1631 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 2: I mean, to me, is it worth it for school 1632 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 2: to write a check to get a win and they 1633 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 2: may not get a win? 1634 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't. 1635 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 4: Got to get it. 1636 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you're trying to bake some of those wins 1637 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 5: on your schedule, right, And depends on the state of 1638 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 5: the program. Are you a team that's rebuilding where you 1639 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 5: looking to build some confidence and get this team up 1640 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 5: and rolling. Or are you a team that has a 1641 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,640 Speaker 5: tough game ahead and you're looking for a game just 1642 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 5: to kind of work some of the kinks out, like 1643 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 5: a little a glorified practice or scrimmage depends on what 1644 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 5: the intention, what's the motivation behind playing the team. But 1645 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 5: there's a there's a place for those games. There's a 1646 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 5: positive place and a positive impact that those games can 1647 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 5: make on both teams. 1648 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, yesterday I was looking at the schedule 1649 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 2: and I'm saying, why do the Hilltoppers of northk Why 1650 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 2: is the Hilltoppers of Kentucky Western Kentucky, Why are they 1651 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 2: playing Alabama? 1652 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,599 Speaker 3: Well, I went to a little research. 1653 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 2: I found out that Alabama paid Western Kentucky one point 1654 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 2: nine million dollars for that win yesterday, which basically I 1655 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 2: would think paid for the entire athletic department a year 1656 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 2: budget at Western Kentucky University. 1657 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 3: I would think, right, it's unbelievable. 1658 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean the money. 1659 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 2: What about you in North Carolina think they had that 1660 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 2: a good win? But they lost their quarterback right over 1661 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 2: the weekend. 1662 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,799 Speaker 4: They lost one of the quarterbacks, Mac Johnson. This unfortunate. 1663 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,639 Speaker 5: He's out for uh the year with a season and injury, 1664 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 5: and so they have to lean on some of the 1665 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 5: young guys. But they got to win on the road 1666 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 5: against Minnesota, which is a tough win for them, But yeah, 1667 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 5: unfortunate injury to Max Johnson, Brad Johnson's son. 1668 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know that all right, Last, but not 1669 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,839 Speaker 2: least though, eight college football teams will pay their opponent's 1670 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 2: more than a million dollars this weekend. 1671 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 1672 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 3: And we'll see what happens with the one loss record. 1673 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 3: We'll do with that. 1674 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,719 Speaker 2: But right now, he's Bucky Brooks. I'm ay four minutes 1675 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 2: at that time. It is that time, because we're going 1676 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 2: to play our favorite game. It's bottom barrel betting, and 1677 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 2: it's freaking next all right, bottom barrel betting right around 1678 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 2: the Corner's been eleven minutes now before the top of 1679 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. 1680 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furmanwell live from the tire 1681 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 2: Rock dot Com studios, and we got a game to play, 1682 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 2: So let's play. 1683 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 7: They think it's bottom bottom Minny to. 1684 01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 4: Sleep, people, get my money. 1685 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: I'll put your brain to yes. 1686 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 2: It is Harriet is Shay Shay Shy. We started from 1687 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,479 Speaker 2: scratch today or is that next week with the NFL 1688 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 2: season starts. 1689 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 8: Let's start from scratch today, so then next Sunday we'll 1690 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 8: be able to start at a nice zero zero and 1691 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 8: you could see who wins from there. But before I 1692 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 8: get into last week's scores, let me explain how this 1693 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,919 Speaker 8: game is played a little bit. It's bottom barrel betting. Basically, 1694 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 8: I find bets around the world from any game from anywhere, 1695 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 8: and I give them to Bucky and Andy and they 1696 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 8: tell me who they think they will win. So let's 1697 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 8: get right into this. Last week, Fitzi, Jason Fitz was 1698 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:38,600 Speaker 8: in for Bucky. 1699 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 4: Giving Andy the win. 1700 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,639 Speaker 8: Andy gets a win for the first time and Haringack 1701 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 8: Fizzy couldn't hold it down. 1702 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 3: And he's a gambler. He's a gambler, right. 1703 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 8: He didn't do too good on his show last week, 1704 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 8: and he didn't do too good on our show, so 1705 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 8: maybe I don't know how he did hit back next week. 1706 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,640 Speaker 4: Oh, he's a substitute teacher. He's over there. Let the 1707 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,720 Speaker 4: class just throws spit balls and flight airplanes. It was 1708 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:10,640 Speaker 4: doing though. 1709 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 8: It was three to two, so so Andy got three 1710 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 8: there and Fits he got two. But let's get right 1711 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 8: into it, and let's see. So we are restarting. It's 1712 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 8: a zero zero slate. In the Snooker Saudi Masters, Matthew 1713 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,800 Speaker 8: Stevens is taking on Marin o'donald. They're both minus one 1714 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 8: fifteen to win. Who you got Andy, Let's start with 1715 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 8: I got mister Donald. 1716 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 2: I got Donald because he's a great defensive player in 1717 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 2: the National Football League. 1718 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 5: He was, Okay, that's cool because I had just written 1719 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 5: down on my paper Stevens. 1720 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 4: So that works for me. 1721 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 8: Perfect. In the Premier Lacrosse League Championship Series, the Carolina 1722 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,759 Speaker 8: Chaos are taking on the Boston Cannons tomorrow on Labor 1723 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 8: Day at one pm Pacific Standard time. 1724 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 3: The Chaos the game at W's the game. 1725 01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: At the game. 1726 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 8: The game is in Boston. Okay, just the Chaos are please, 1727 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, and you get me excited if you yelling. 1728 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 8: It just gets me that the Chaos are plus one 1729 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 8: fifty while the Cannons are minus two hundred. Who you 1730 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 8: guys got Bucky to start with you? 1731 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,640 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going with the Chaos. I'm from Carolina. I 1732 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 5: feel like they need it. We gotta get it done. 1733 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,759 Speaker 5: It's chaotic. 1734 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 3: Let's go with them, right, I'm chaotic too. 1735 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 2: I got Boston. I got Boston, right, Cannon, My can't 1736 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 2: go to Boston. 1737 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,759 Speaker 8: The Cannon's. I like the names there. Those are good names. 1738 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,719 Speaker 8: You see You guys never congratulate me for easy names, 1739 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 8: but every time it's a hard name, you guys go 1740 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 8: in on me. 1741 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 3: That's the way it is. 1742 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 4: Expectations, highest fectation exactly. Get used to it. 1743 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 8: In the ks W, which is a Polish mixed martial 1744 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,879 Speaker 8: arts promotion, Gilbert Burns is taking on Sean Brady September seventh, 1745 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,719 Speaker 8: Saturday night at five forty pm Pacific Standard time. Gilbert 1746 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,680 Speaker 8: Burns is plus one fifty eight while Sean Brady is 1747 01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 8: minus one eighty three. Andy, you're up. 1748 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 3: I got Brady. 1749 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 2: I mean he's gotta be a blood brother of Tom 1750 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 2: Brady and Brady's a winner. 1751 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,759 Speaker 3: This guy, Sean Brady's gotta be a winner. I got Brady. 1752 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, then let's try that. 1753 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,680 Speaker 5: Broks out perfectly because Gilbert Burns, guy, look, he used 1754 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 5: to be in the UFC. 1755 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 4: Now he's out. Yeah, he has to climb his way 1756 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 4: back in. This is it. He's fighting for his life. 1757 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns has to win. 1758 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, Yeah, he used to be in the UFC. 1759 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 8: But yes, and off to the off to the Chinese 1760 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 8: Professional Basketball League, the CTBC. This league, it's a great league. Yeah, 1761 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 8: I've bet on it. A couple of times before they're 1762 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 8: taking on the Fu Bond Guardians and it's happening right now. 1763 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,599 Speaker 8: The Brothers are minus one seventy five. All the Guardians 1764 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 8: are plus one thirty five. Bucky, who you got? 1765 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 5: It wasn't the name of the first one? The brother 1766 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 5: the Gardians and ooh, the brothers. I like brothers. I'm 1767 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 5: gonna go with the brothers. The brothers give me right. 1768 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 2: I got the Guardian And you know this, this is 1769 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,760 Speaker 2: another situation I blew on my lifetime. I could have 1770 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 2: played football and acrip, but I could have been a 1771 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 2: set during this Chinese league. You know, five ten, at 1772 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 2: five ten, I could be playing the pivot. I got 1773 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 2: to be playing the pivot in this league. Really I could. 1774 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:20,160 Speaker 3: But Andy fan and exactly, yeah, I'm red clots now 1775 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 3: that's why I am. 1776 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 8: I got one quick one to get in here. Off 1777 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,879 Speaker 8: to the Men's Volleyball European Championship Under twenty with Poland 1778 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 8: taking on Serbia today. At eight thirty am. Poland is 1779 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 8: plus one twenty while Serbia is minus one seventy Andy, 1780 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 8: real quick. 1781 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,879 Speaker 3: I got Pola, I got the Polish team. 1782 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 8: And Bucky, oh, give me the Serbs. 1783 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 4: Serbs I'm ready. 1784 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 8: That concludes the the last or I guess the first 1785 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 8: bottom barrel betting of season two. We're calling it that, 1786 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 8: all right. 1787 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:47,679 Speaker 3: The swollen Dome. 1788 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon joins the party of Fox Football Sunday, coming 1789 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,680 Speaker 2: up right here next. 1790 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome in. Honored to be back in the 1791 01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 1: chair alongside two legends in the game are as Andy 1792 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,799 Speaker 1: Furman and Bucky Brooks. For me, this is year nineteen 1793 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: of what we call Fox Football Sunday. I've aged rapidly 1794 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: in this booth. I've seen people come and go. I 1795 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,080 Speaker 1: think my running clock of how many guys I've worked 1796 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 1: with in this shift is at like nine hundred. Because, 1797 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,679 Speaker 1: you know, getting up in the early hours of the morning, 1798 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,599 Speaker 1: getting ready to get it on for another football season. 1799 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,200 Speaker 1: You know it's not for the fate of heart. Or 1800 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,919 Speaker 1: maybe they just left me behind. I'm not quite sure, gentlemen. 1801 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,800 Speaker 1: An honor to be with you once again, listening to 1802 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 1: the pre roll up as you guys playing a little 1803 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: bottom barrel betting and watching Shay find the sports you'd 1804 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 1: never heard of. But I do like that we've now 1805 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 1: found perhaps Andy's you know what could have been his calling. 1806 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 1: I dig that you know, Bucky, you playing in the NFL, 1807 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 1: and now we've got Andy. You know, you and I 1808 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 1: we have to live vicariously through other athletes and maybe 1809 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 1: our video game acumen. 1810 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 3: I will tell you this, but first of all, welcome back. Speaking. 1811 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 2: Don't we love having you here. It's great and I'm 1812 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 2: here with buckets. It's wonderful, it really is. I could 1813 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 2: do this for hours. However, you know, when you're a 1814 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,519 Speaker 2: youngster and you love the games and you watch the games, 1815 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 2: you look at these athletes. I don't think I could 1816 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 2: do what they can do. So I played two in 1817 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 2: touch in the streets of Brooklyn, New York. You do 1818 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 2: a little button hook behind the Chevrolet and there you go, 1819 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 2: and they play See Sue stick fall. That's what you did. 1820 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 2: But you know, when I see these scores right now, 1821 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 2: that Ohio State beats Akron fifty two to six, there's 1822 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 2: gotta be a way of God's green Earth that I 1823 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 2: could have made that Akron football team. Blame me fifty 1824 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:36,679 Speaker 2: two to six. 1825 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,720 Speaker 3: Or there was a scar there with Tennessee one like 1826 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 3: seventy three to something yesterday. I mean, come on, really, 1827 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't have played for the Furman Paladins. They would 1828 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 3: take me on just because of my name. 1829 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: Really a legacy play, that's what he's looking at their bucky. 1830 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I look, and he's talked about this 1831 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 5: like nothing frustrates more than when teams are whipping up 1832 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 5: on the little sisters. 1833 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 4: Of the poor. Like he doesn't like the money games. 1834 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 5: He wants to see all big games, and so it 1835 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 5: frustrates him to no end when he sees those guys 1836 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 5: take those games. And look, I think it's fun when 1837 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 5: sometimes the little guy wins. We saw Montana State come 1838 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 5: back on New Mexico last year where they paid a 1839 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 5: bunch of money, and I mean last week where they 1840 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 5: paid a bunch of money and Montana State. 1841 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 4: Walks away with the victory. 1842 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,360 Speaker 5: We almost saw North Dakota State snatched down Colorado and 1843 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,960 Speaker 5: Deon Sanders and that crew. So I mean, sometimes you 1844 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 5: know it can happen, But normally the teams that are 1845 01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 5: able to pull it off are the teams, I would say, 1846 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 5: the FCS teams that are really good that no one 1847 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:37,719 Speaker 5: pays attention. 1848 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:38,680 Speaker 4: I've always said this. 1849 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 5: If I was coaching D one, I would never schedule 1850 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 5: those games because it's a no win composition. You expected 1851 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 5: to win if you lose, Holy hell comes out. So 1852 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 5: I am good on that, Like I would not play 1853 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 5: those schools, but. 1854 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 3: You didn't launching statement, living on that for years. 1855 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Well, but that's it, right. You try to fuel your 1856 01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,560 Speaker 1: program with some funds, and I know you guys chronicled 1857 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,559 Speaker 1: some of the payouts and the dollars that roll through, 1858 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: and maybe it changes as we move forward. And that's 1859 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: one of the big questions I think as we get 1860 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 1: into this college football season ahead of Thursday nights kickoff 1861 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 1: of the NFL fiending, you know, Shay's got like nine 1862 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 1: NFL fantasy mock drafts going trying to figure out what's 1863 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,599 Speaker 1: gonna follow to him doing a lot of simulations. He's 1864 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,880 Speaker 1: doing a lot of calculations in his brain and he 1865 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,640 Speaker 1: keeps cursing, I hate my team. And everybody else that 1866 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,640 Speaker 1: plays fantasy football, you've all had at least one of 1867 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: those squads. You're four or five rounds in and you're 1868 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 1: already lamenting the roster that's being assembled long before it's done. 1869 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 1: I have one of those myself right now. That is 1870 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: a long slow draft. Get this fellas drafting right, and 1871 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to ascertain, hey, is the guy gonna go 1872 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 1: to the pup list. What's his deal? So Mikey says, hey, 1873 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: you know what, Christian McCaffrey, they're gonna have to be 1874 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,639 Speaker 1: a little judicious with his work. So let's go get 1875 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell. He's only gonna miss a couple of game 1876 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:04,160 Speaker 1: games tona season ending ir immediately. So what's the next 1877 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 1: guy do? As soon as I make my pick, he's 1878 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 1: got Jordan Mason as if to throw me a couple 1879 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 1: of well, what's, for lack of a better term, foam fingers. 1880 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: But that's the cutthroat nature of the game, Bucky. You 1881 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: mentioned the Colorado North Dakota State and wrapped up in 1882 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 1: there are so many storylines and it's the best and 1883 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 1: worst of what makes us fans, pundits and everything else 1884 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 1: right because us against the world is a mantra we 1885 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: like to use for ourselves, but when others do, maybe 1886 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,759 Speaker 1: not so much. And that's the Dion Sanders, his children 1887 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 1: and Travis Hunter who continues to just baffle us with 1888 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 1: his athleticism and dominance, missing only two plays in that 1889 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 1: game playing iron man football, leading to a lot of 1890 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,719 Speaker 1: those conversations of can he do this in the pro level? 1891 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: And I do appreciate the number of cornerbacks that stood 1892 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 1: up and said no, no, I'll come on now, show us 1893 01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: some respect in the National Football League, Bucky, you made 1894 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,680 Speaker 1: your hey as a guy in the secondary. I mean, 1895 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter might become the Heisman favorite, might make the 1896 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 1: argument that he should go number one overall, But for 1897 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 1: trying the two way thing, I think it's great to 1898 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: speculate about, but let's have some respect for the guys 1899 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 1: that's strapping up on Sundays. 1900 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 4: See. 1901 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 5: I take a different take, and maybe it's because I 1902 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 5: live in the high school world as well. I think 1903 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,920 Speaker 5: Travis could absolutely play both ways. I don't think he 1904 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,640 Speaker 5: could play one hundred and twelve plays both ways. But 1905 01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,679 Speaker 5: here's what you have to understand about the pro game 1906 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 5: compared to the collegiate game. The offensive plays that you 1907 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 5: play in the college game, like sometimes they. 1908 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 4: Can get him into the eighty eighty five ninety range. 1909 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 5: De general, how fast the tempo is going on average 1910 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 5: in the pros, you're talking about sixty five offensive plays, 1911 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 5: and so Travis Hunter could be in a package that 1912 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,400 Speaker 5: allows him to play thirty five to forty offensive plays 1913 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,639 Speaker 5: a game, if done correctly. 1914 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,280 Speaker 4: Let's just say Travis Hunter comes in. 1915 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 5: But Travis Hunt isn't expected to be the number one 1916 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,759 Speaker 5: and number two receiver. Let's just say he's the third 1917 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,439 Speaker 5: receiver or maybe even the fourth receiver that rotates in 1918 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:11,760 Speaker 5: that you bring in. 1919 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 4: He could do that. That's no different than being a 1920 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,599 Speaker 4: nickelback on defense. 1921 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,760 Speaker 5: Travis Hunter is a dynamic athlete that you want to 1922 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 5: have on the field because he makes things happen, whether 1923 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 5: he's on offense or defense or even in the kicking game. 1924 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 4: To me, he is someone who. 1925 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 5: Can do it, and I will use look, I would 1926 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 5: use the example I watched Champ Bailey when Champ Bailey 1927 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 5: was at Georgia. 1928 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 4: Champ Bailey was a full time wide. 1929 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,559 Speaker 5: Receiver for Georgia during this last year while also excelling there. 1930 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 5: Charles Woodson didn't really do that at Michigan. He made 1931 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 5: some plays at Michigan, but he wasn't an offensive guy. 1932 01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 5: To me, Travis Hunter is more close to Champ Bailey 1933 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 5: in terms of how you evaluate him as a prospect. 1934 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,680 Speaker 5: But if anyone can do it, Travis Hunter can do 1935 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,880 Speaker 5: it because he can go to his head coaches office 1936 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,960 Speaker 5: at a coach, how do I get ready to play 1937 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 5: both ways successfully? As a pro and Deana can give 1938 01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,719 Speaker 5: him the blue did he used to help the Cowboys 1939 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 5: win a Super Bowl when he was a two way player, 1940 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,760 Speaker 5: so he can be done. As a matter of do 1941 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 5: you want your star player to do it? How valuable 1942 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,559 Speaker 5: is he on offense? That's where it comes out. 1943 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the big The bigger thing for 1944 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,240 Speaker 1: it is, you know, maximizing what you become at the 1945 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,600 Speaker 1: next level. But to the point you were making a 1946 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 1: little bit earlier and he you know, for Colorado and 1947 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,519 Speaker 1: Dion even talked about it, and leading up to the game, 1948 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,760 Speaker 1: they were kind of in a tough into one of 1949 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 1: those no win situations, as you both said, because even 1950 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: though it's a ten point spread and you're talking about 1951 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,200 Speaker 1: playing a different division, you know, they come out of 1952 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 1: that with so much poison pen and vitriolic ink coming 1953 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,160 Speaker 1: out of it for narrowly escaping, not to mention some 1954 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 1: coaching slash communication issues. 1955 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll I'll run this by because look at 1956 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 2: the Travis Hunter for a second. Certainly a rarity for 1957 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 2: a guy to play both ways in the NFL. But 1958 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 2: here's my question. Who decides that Travis Hunter plays both ways? 1959 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 2: Is he goes coaching staff say I want to do 1960 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,680 Speaker 2: this or deonce is something in him that he can 1961 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,400 Speaker 2: do that because it is a rarity. I mean, you 1962 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,400 Speaker 2: don't see guys do that. And why would he do that? 1963 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,680 Speaker 2: And who asked him to do that or did he 1964 01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 2: want to do that? 1965 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 1: That's the quil point. You play ironman football in high 1966 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 1: school though, Bucky right, I mean you. 1967 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 5: Play well, yeah, you play iron football in high school. 1968 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 5: But I'll say this because I was first tipped off 1969 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,759 Speaker 5: on Travis Hunter from my son. My son was watching 1970 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,080 Speaker 5: him on YouTube when Travis Hunter was traveling all over 1971 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 5: playing on seven on seven teams, and Travis Hunter. 1972 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,799 Speaker 4: Was a unique freak athlete. 1973 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 5: And there are a bunch of guys that they would 1974 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,679 Speaker 5: kind of do that stuff, play both ways in high school, 1975 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 5: but he was different. And when you watched him play 1976 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,160 Speaker 5: high school games his final season, he was a different animal. 1977 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 5: I look, I just think that sometimes guys are special. 1978 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 5: And for Travis Hunter, if you're Travis Hunter, you're looking 1979 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 5: around at what guys are getting. 1980 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 4: Paid on offense compared to defense. 1981 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 5: When you look at Ceedee Lamb sign a deal that 1982 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 5: puts him at thirty five, thirty six, thirty eight million 1983 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 5: dollars and you looking at DB's where it tops out 1984 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 5: at twenty one two, you absolutely want to pay both 1985 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 5: ways because it gives you an opportunity to add some 1986 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,759 Speaker 5: put some put some extra cheese on the burker. 1987 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 4: You know you want you want more money because you 1988 01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,640 Speaker 4: can do more things. Yeah, so I understand that. 1989 01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,680 Speaker 5: And all the dbs that are woofing about, oh I 1990 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 5: can't be done, understand this. The best athletes and best 1991 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 5: players are going to offense at lower levels. 1992 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,959 Speaker 4: A lot of times. The guys that have been DB's 1993 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,559 Speaker 4: their entire life, it's because they weren't good enough to 1994 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,759 Speaker 4: contribute on offense. That's just a harsh reality. 1995 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 1: Well, I mean we even see that for guys that 1996 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,599 Speaker 1: get converted when they go to the pros. Though, Bucky, 1997 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,799 Speaker 1: what's always the thing. It's like, yeah, you have the speed, 1998 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:45,479 Speaker 1: he could do this, couldn't catch right right hands, could 1999 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 1: do a lot of the things checked off all the 2000 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,759 Speaker 1: boxes except for the most important one without the venom 2001 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 1: like symbiote substance or sticky tack on to the highest degree. 2002 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,760 Speaker 1: The ball was falling to the turf, you know. 2003 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of that, you know you not mentioned your Northwestern wildcast. 2004 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 2: They just squeaked by the Red Hawks of Miami. 2005 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,560 Speaker 1: Of all, how they covered the number though it was 2006 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: only three. I know, I know, so they played for 2007 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 1: their backers. 2008 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2009 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 3: I had that game with the radio a little bit, yes, 2010 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,080 Speaker 3: just to see what's going on because I follow Miami. 2011 01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,719 Speaker 3: It's in the neighborhood over here, right, so we see. 2012 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,960 Speaker 3: But they had them, they had him by the roades Miami. 2013 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 4: They did well. 2014 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 3: I was adam. 2015 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,160 Speaker 1: Exciting stuff right breaking in the new stadium. What is 2016 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 1: the Northwestern Medicine Field at Martin Stadium, so you know 2017 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,200 Speaker 1: the word salad that comes with naming while they rebuild 2018 01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: the football stadium on site there in Evanston. My brother 2019 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 1: was in attendance, so he was He was excited, sending 2020 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,280 Speaker 1: me some pictures from what they've constructed along the lakefront. 2021 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,160 Speaker 1: It photographed and filmed beautifully on television. I was down 2022 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 1: in Oceanside, so my daughter's in one of the you know, 2023 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,679 Speaker 1: the next round of tournaments has come up for soccer, 2024 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 1: so I'm getting. 2025 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,320 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, when did she get those athletic jeans from. 2026 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:58,480 Speaker 3: I'm just curious. 2027 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,680 Speaker 1: I was really good, except I was short and I 2028 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,640 Speaker 1: ripped up my legs. So this goes back to you know, 2029 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 1: you played the street ball, so you played the game. No, well, 2030 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but I was done early, like because back then, 2031 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,760 Speaker 1: like I'm old enough to wear stuff that they could 2032 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,760 Speaker 1: fix really easily. Now, back then, doctors would look at 2033 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,680 Speaker 1: the injury and say, we're not signing off on it. 2034 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 3: Wow. 2035 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,960 Speaker 1: So, like, you know, I went to a high school 2036 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 1: that had disbanded football for a while, so that that 2037 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 1: pushed off. Did some other things, a little track and field, 2038 01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,280 Speaker 1: help with the wrestling team, they started whatever. But then 2039 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,240 Speaker 1: I go to Northwestern, and then this goes back to 2040 01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,559 Speaker 1: you know, Andy, you were listening off a bunch of 2041 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: universities that maybe you could have gotten a sniff. Well, Northwestern, 2042 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,519 Speaker 1: as you call it, recall, wasn't good at all back 2043 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: in the days of harmon showing up on campus. And 2044 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: I knew a lot of guys on the team, so 2045 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, coach like loves the walk Ons, and 2046 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 1: you're around us in class and everything everywhere. So I'm 2047 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. But I had busted my leg 2048 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,120 Speaker 1: in high school, and at the time I knew the 2049 01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 1: thing of the injury, I couldn't get a doctor to 2050 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,800 Speaker 1: sign off on me. I tried to go to West Point. 2051 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,960 Speaker 1: I did a forty five minute phone interview. He asked 2052 01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 1: me about an injury interview, an injury, and the guys like, yeah, 2053 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 1: they're never clearing you with that leg, good luck son, 2054 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 1: And that was it. So same thing, trying just to 2055 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,479 Speaker 1: go do a I really do think, though, Bucky and 2056 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,720 Speaker 1: you can probably attest to this, were those guys just 2057 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 1: setting me up because they were they hated me for 2058 01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,840 Speaker 1: some reason and wanted to take me out on a 2059 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:23,559 Speaker 1: practice field. 2060 01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,760 Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think I hated you. I 2061 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 4: don't think I don't think it was like a true hate, 2062 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 4: but maybe. 2063 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit. I mean, no, I never got 2064 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,760 Speaker 1: tied to the goalpost. You know the interesting factoid that 2065 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,640 Speaker 1: always comes back up though. While I was at Northwestern, 2066 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,240 Speaker 1: the famous point shaving scandal happened for football and basketball. 2067 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so. 2068 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,880 Speaker 1: Those were guys that were friends of mine. I had 2069 01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 1: no idea, like, absolutely broke my heart. But here's the 2070 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: here's the rub. My friends and I we used to 2071 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,680 Speaker 1: travel to all the road games, and those are the 2072 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 1: guys we got our tickets from. 2073 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 2074 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 1: So you know, if they really wanted to say, hey, 2075 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,519 Speaker 1: that little fire plug looking dude over there. He's the 2076 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 1: mastermind of everything. But I had no idea, like and. 2077 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 2: Today was listening, I kind of like close it down 2078 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, closed the pie hole on that, you 2079 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,639 Speaker 2: know what I mean, because that student newspaper they got 2080 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,960 Speaker 2: the coach fired a year ago, so you never know 2081 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,280 Speaker 2: what could happen come back on haunting. 2082 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,439 Speaker 1: Yah, We've talked about this at length. Uh you know, 2083 01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's part of the history Andy, part of 2084 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,920 Speaker 1: the long, long history. It wasn't it wasn't hard to 2085 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 1: connect the dots of la la la. But yeah, just 2086 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:37,000 Speaker 1: very very difficult times. But you know, a new athletic 2087 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,679 Speaker 1: director comes in, a guy named Mark Jackson, so hopefully 2088 01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:46,080 Speaker 1: some calmer heads and uh more cohesiveness and direction because 2089 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 1: they still had that giant pathage eraled lawsuit sitting out 2090 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,000 Speaker 1: there by the way. His kid played a little bit. 2091 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:51,800 Speaker 1: And yesterday's game. 2092 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 2: Wow, here's the big trivia question of the day. And 2093 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go do some research on this. 2094 01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 2: What was the last time Northwestern and Vanda Built both 2095 01:34:59,040 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 2: won in football and the. 2096 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Same day that's fine question. 2097 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:04,720 Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna check that out. 2098 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,719 Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. Get our crack research staff. Hey, 2099 01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,720 Speaker 1: stop looking at round nine of your fantasy draft and 2100 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,200 Speaker 1: see if you can figure that one out. 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How long can you 2112 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,599 Speaker 1: trade on past accomplishments? We'll do that next. He's Andy Furman, 2113 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,759 Speaker 1: There's Bucky Brooks. I'm Buy Carmen and this is Fox 2114 01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,840 Speaker 1: Football Sunday. Hey, welcome back in Fox Football Sunday, Fox 2115 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Mike Carmen alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks, please 2116 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,920 Speaker 1: to be back for another season. Thanks for being part 2117 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,920 Speaker 1: of our extended family. Wherever, however you're listening to the program, 2118 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,920 Speaker 1: all the affiliates and fellas aggressive expansion. We're adding some 2119 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,960 Speaker 1: more people here in the next couple of weeks, new 2120 01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,000 Speaker 1: cities that we can add on our big map and 2121 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,599 Speaker 1: add pins to and of course always the iHeartRadio app 2122 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 1: because we are a global proposition here at Fox Sports Radio. 2123 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: So we waved to all of our friends in time 2124 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,280 Speaker 1: zones around the world as they get ready for a 2125 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,400 Speaker 1: full day of activity F one racing. We've got the 2126 01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 1: Premier League, some more college football a little bit later 2127 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,840 Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball, you know, because it's football season 2128 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,560 Speaker 1: for me. With the White Sox at one hundred and 2129 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: six losses. Guys, well, I mean, look, if you're gonna 2130 01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,040 Speaker 1: fail in life, fail spectacularly, take your shot. 2131 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 3: Get in the record books, big history. 2132 01:36:56,360 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 1: No, that's it. I mean, we'll have the great experiment. Though. 2133 01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,800 Speaker 4: What happened? Was it two years ago Tony de Russ 2134 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 4: had the team in the playoffs? 2135 01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2136 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 4: Like, what happened? How did it go? 2137 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:08,240 Speaker 5: So? 2138 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 1: You scouted terribly? 2139 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:11,200 Speaker 5: Uh? 2140 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,599 Speaker 1: You get rid of your only arms of any value, 2141 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 1: Dylan Ceese, who would have been the number one guy 2142 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. You traded him in the off 2143 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,599 Speaker 1: season so you got less than what you would have, 2144 01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,879 Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because your farm system stinks anyway, 2145 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 1: not developing players. You tried to go Braves model with 2146 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,000 Speaker 1: a couple of guys who ended up being okay when 2147 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: they were on the field. Problem was they weren't on 2148 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,200 Speaker 1: the field a terribly much. When you look at Eloi 2149 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 1: Jit Menez now in Baltimore and Lewis Robert Junior. So 2150 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,720 Speaker 1: those two guys. Carlos Rodan had some injury issues, but 2151 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 1: he's now well traveled and is a double digit winner 2152 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,000 Speaker 1: in New York. And Chris Sale, who was with us 2153 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 1: once upon a time, is probably gonna win the Cy 2154 01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:00,639 Speaker 1: Young for the Braves. All that to say, it's been 2155 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,320 Speaker 1: a miserable slog of an experience. At some point you 2156 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,599 Speaker 1: just got a smile and you just say this is 2157 01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,280 Speaker 1: this is what it is, and you have to accept 2158 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,960 Speaker 1: it because sometimes you know, it's still an opportunity to 2159 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,479 Speaker 1: watch baseball. Is a good baseball, no, he's a winning 2160 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,920 Speaker 1: baseball no. But you know what it got me to 2161 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 1: football season. 2162 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 4: Fellas, Yeah, you enough time to get the food. 2163 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, you know, but I could do about a three 2164 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,759 Speaker 1: hour soliloquy of all the things Ryan's doorf's done wrong 2165 01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,639 Speaker 1: with that squad. But the big question is Grady Sizemore. 2166 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,160 Speaker 1: You remember him as a player. He's now the manager 2167 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:38,920 Speaker 1: of the White Sox. He's aging in presidential terms. He's 2168 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,280 Speaker 1: been on the job what four or five weeks, and 2169 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 1: it's it's already having the effect, you know, when the 2170 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,080 Speaker 1: guy takes office and he's all smiles, like, no matter 2171 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,040 Speaker 1: the age, you're still looking pretty good. And then four 2172 01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:55,000 Speaker 1: years later it's like, man, that's a grind. It's gonna 2173 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,759 Speaker 1: be a month and a half for him. That's gonna 2174 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:57,679 Speaker 1: age him rapidly. 2175 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,240 Speaker 4: M not good. 2176 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,080 Speaker 1: There you go. There's life according to me. But hey, 2177 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,599 Speaker 1: my kids won both their soccer games yesterday, so we'll 2178 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,759 Speaker 1: go back for an encore later on today. Fun and excitement, 2179 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, let me ask you guys this week zero, 2180 01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,920 Speaker 1: with the way we've changed college football in the new 2181 01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,160 Speaker 1: transfer portal and nil world, how much do we take 2182 01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 1: away from Week zero? In Week one with some of 2183 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:25,439 Speaker 1: the bought games as you talked about, Andy, and some 2184 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,799 Speaker 1: of the traditional scheduling, but the fact that we play 2185 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 1: such a game of I don't know, musical chairs in 2186 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:37,680 Speaker 1: coaching quarterbacks and the like Bucky will start with you. 2187 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,280 Speaker 5: Look, I think it's really hard to know what a 2188 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,440 Speaker 5: team is going to be without seeing them in preseason. 2189 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:47,799 Speaker 4: Everyone should get ready. 2190 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,439 Speaker 5: For the NFL to look like this where you're not 2191 01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,280 Speaker 5: able to predict the first three or four games of 2192 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,200 Speaker 5: the year, because when you wipe away preseason, you don't 2193 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,679 Speaker 5: have a way to really get your team ready to play. 2194 01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 5: Because as much as you want to scrimmage and do 2195 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 5: those things like, you can't simulate what game action is. 2196 01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,000 Speaker 5: And in college that's what they're asked to do. It's 2197 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 5: really difficult to know what you have until you start 2198 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,519 Speaker 5: playing games, because you can think that you can be 2199 01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,439 Speaker 5: able to play a certain way, but then when you 2200 01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 5: play games, you realize this works, this doesn't work based 2201 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,200 Speaker 5: on our personnel. It's just really hard. So I think 2202 01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 5: we have to kind of keep it in perspective and 2203 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,840 Speaker 5: keep it in mind that it's early and really try 2204 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 5: not to make i'll say, solid judgments and assessments until 2205 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 5: after we get past the third or fourth game. 2206 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 2: You know, you bring up a great point because going 2207 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,559 Speaker 2: back to Greek zero, it was in Montana State, New 2208 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 2: Mexico Montana State University of New Mexico by three by four, 2209 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,479 Speaker 2: thirty five, thirty one SMU, Nevada, Delaware State, Hawaii. Those 2210 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,040 Speaker 2: three games, you know, most betters I think could have 2211 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 2: picked for the Montana State. No, but let's go to 2212 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 2: the big when the Florida State Georgia Tech. And when 2213 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,640 Speaker 2: they say Georgia Tech upset Florida State, I had a 2214 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 2: problem with that because who was ranking Florida State tenth 2215 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 2: in the nation at that time when that a had 2216 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,519 Speaker 2: not seen them play and be that hadn't played. So 2217 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,120 Speaker 2: I went back and looked at. 2218 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,679 Speaker 3: The Phil Steele. He has this twenty twenty fourth. 2219 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,160 Speaker 2: Toughest Schedules chart, all right, and on the chart he's 2220 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,280 Speaker 2: got Florida State with the twelfth toughest schedule of the year. 2221 01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:15,920 Speaker 3: This year. 2222 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,760 Speaker 2: However, going back on that same chart, Georgia Tech is 2223 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,840 Speaker 2: the fourth toughest schedule in the country. So Georgia Tech 2224 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 2: to me, you know, it's not so much of a 2225 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 2: shocker beating Florida State twenty four to twenty one in 2226 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,879 Speaker 2: that game. It really wasn't. And Georgia Tech won again yesterday. 2227 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 2: So Georgia Tech may very well have a better season 2228 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 2: than Florida State. But that game was promoted and written 2229 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 2: up after the game and talked about as an upset, 2230 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 2: and I'm not so certain it was. 2231 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,400 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, coming out of the offseason right in 2232 01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 1: Florida State what they did a year ago, returning half 2233 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:54,080 Speaker 1: of their starters, and then we get into points spreads, right, 2234 01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,639 Speaker 1: and where the money goes helps to dictate some of those. 2235 01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,920 Speaker 1: By the way, how big a magnifying glass did you 2236 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 1: use for your Phil Steele book? Is that not the 2237 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,719 Speaker 1: great It's the greatest. It's the greatest, the college Football Bible, 2238 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,799 Speaker 1: and I buy it every year and I've got stacks 2239 01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,320 Speaker 1: of them in a closet. Right. The font, man, the 2240 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 1: font you know, if they had. 2241 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,839 Speaker 2: A twelve point fund, they have to have seven editions. 2242 01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,320 Speaker 2: That's your problem. I mean, you're right. I mean I 2243 01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,479 Speaker 2: got my glasses on to see it. But all of 2244 01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,120 Speaker 2: that to say, and I don't wear classes. 2245 01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:29,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I bet you look aera nite and ready 2246 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 1: for business and wear. 2247 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,640 Speaker 3: Those glass to get those cheaters, you know, that's what 2248 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:33,000 Speaker 3: I did. 2249 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:37,200 Speaker 1: No, but you get get someone really stylish stylistic frames, 2250 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,920 Speaker 1: and then you could look like a wizard start you know, 2251 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:41,559 Speaker 1: you know, brand promotion. 2252 01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:45,200 Speaker 3: I look at me, Yeah, okay, fine, I don't need that. 2253 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to give you another brand, Bucky, 2254 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:49,640 Speaker 1: and he's just throwing it off like that. 2255 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,559 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm too stupid to realize. 2256 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:54,960 Speaker 2: I was trying to get you your n I L 2257 01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,479 Speaker 2: money right, But you know what, I got to have 2258 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,640 Speaker 2: that thing on my helmet like, I'll go home state. 2259 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 1: Head nicely done, get your QR code right. 2260 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:04,360 Speaker 3: But they can't use him anymore. 2261 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 4: No, I can't use them. Gotta get that episode. 2262 01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 2: Pretty creative when you think about it, though, Oh, I 2263 01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 2: dig it right, trying to find the new angles, Bucky. 2264 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,000 Speaker 1: It's just a new world. And we talk about one 2265 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,479 Speaker 1: coach who wants to leave it behind getting thumped yesterday. 2266 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:23,000 Speaker 1: That's Dabo Swiney and Clemson. All right, couple of national titles, 2267 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,200 Speaker 1: all the goodwill, the double digit win seasons, but he 2268 01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 1: doesn't want to play any of these well for lack 2269 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 1: of a turn, let's just call him the reindeer games. 2270 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,960 Speaker 1: We'll get to the holidays soon enough. So well, next 2271 01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,280 Speaker 1: week I'm running around singing Perry Como. It's the most 2272 01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,680 Speaker 1: wonderful time of the year. I mean, are you kidding me? 2273 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have fake snow in the studio to celebrate 2274 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:47,320 Speaker 1: Week one of the NFL season. Let's go. But for Dabble, 2275 01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do the nil stuff, doesn't want 2276 01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:54,360 Speaker 1: to do transfer portal, any of those things. Remember famously 2277 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, when nil and everything was being 2278 01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 1: talked about, said, I'll go do something else. Has he 2279 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of talked about and like is he going to 2280 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,440 Speaker 1: be sitting in a broadcast thing dressing like a leprechaun 2281 01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,760 Speaker 1: like Nick Saban pretty soon? Like where are we at 2282 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:09,360 Speaker 1: it here, Bucky? 2283 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. So here's the thing. And I 2284 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,479 Speaker 5: told Andy this in the first hour. The thing for 2285 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 5: all the people that won't dabble out of there, it's 2286 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 5: not gonna happen anytime soon. 2287 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,520 Speaker 4: Because the biot is significant. 2288 01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,960 Speaker 5: Sixty million dollars biot if you get it rid of 2289 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:26,839 Speaker 5: Dabbo after this year or next year. Fifty seven million 2290 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,240 Speaker 5: dollars if you get rid of get rid of Dabbo 2291 01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 5: after twenty twenty six. So he's gonna be for the 2292 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,160 Speaker 5: Tigers for a long time. What has to happen for 2293 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,000 Speaker 5: Daboy is Dabbo has to nail it on the quarterback. 2294 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:43,120 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, for Dabbo. He had a great run of quarterbacks. 2295 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,800 Speaker 5: Where he had Todds Boyd, he had Deshaun Watson, then 2296 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:46,599 Speaker 5: he had Trevor Lawrence. 2297 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,200 Speaker 4: Right, two of those guys have been. 2298 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:52,040 Speaker 5: Pro Bowl Pro Bowl players in the National Football League, 2299 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,759 Speaker 5: so he had legitimate franchise quarterbacks in the fold. 2300 01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't been able to find that. 2301 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,840 Speaker 5: Same guy to lead Clemson to higher heightst Now, remember 2302 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,479 Speaker 5: they still were winning double digit games and those things, 2303 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:06,519 Speaker 5: but they're not the Clemson that went to national title 2304 01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 5: games that was challenging Alabama for. 2305 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,560 Speaker 4: College football supremacy. 2306 01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:14,040 Speaker 5: And what you saw against Georgia is the difference between 2307 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,720 Speaker 5: trying to build it with the home grown roster and 2308 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,799 Speaker 5: one that is homegrown but supplemented by the transfer portal. 2309 01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,880 Speaker 5: Dad always been staunchly opposed to getting into the portal 2310 01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:25,840 Speaker 5: because he wants to develop his own guys and do 2311 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:26,479 Speaker 5: it that way. 2312 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 4: But he's at a mismatch, at. 2313 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,640 Speaker 5: A disadvantage because his five stars are younger, while the 2314 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,599 Speaker 5: five stars for Georgia and other. 2315 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 4: Guys are older and experienced. And that is where you 2316 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:38,439 Speaker 4: saw it. 2317 01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,920 Speaker 5: In the second half a six to three game became 2318 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 5: a blowout. And so he can do it his way, 2319 01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 5: but people have to get used to seeing Clemson operate 2320 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,679 Speaker 5: in a different fashion when it comes to winning. 2321 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,280 Speaker 2: I would say this, you know what his mantra is 2322 01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,080 Speaker 2: right now, Dobbo, adapt or die. 2323 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,559 Speaker 3: That's basically what they gotta do. 2324 01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:57,799 Speaker 2: And I don't understand why the athletic threat that doesn't 2325 01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,880 Speaker 2: call him and they always say, look, you want to succeed, 2326 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,160 Speaker 2: you better go out and go to the portal. Why why? 2327 01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand his philosophy. I don't think college 2328 01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,479 Speaker 2: athletes should be paid. Sorry, that's just the way it is. 2329 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,759 Speaker 2: And you know what, they should be paid. They're a show. Really, 2330 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,680 Speaker 2: that's why people pay to pay to see them. What business? 2331 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 2: What actor that does not get paid? And these guys 2332 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,160 Speaker 2: are basically actors, and they're the business. What workers don't 2333 01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,519 Speaker 2: get paid? They're workers. They put a lot of time 2334 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 2: in and they do a lot for the school. They 2335 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,960 Speaker 2: increase enrollment, they increase merchandise sales, you name it. They 2336 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 2: get them on TV. So get out there, Dobbo, get 2337 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,040 Speaker 2: in the portal. 2338 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and still the rule of thumb right. And for 2339 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,120 Speaker 1: every job I've ever had, you know, you'll have people 2340 01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:38,880 Speaker 1: around I don't want to I don't want to know 2341 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,519 Speaker 1: I don't like office politics or I don't like this, Like, 2342 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,960 Speaker 1: guess what, if you're not aware of what's going on, 2343 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna get used in that game. So at least 2344 01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,920 Speaker 1: you need to be aware that you become the pawn 2345 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,800 Speaker 1: if you're not at least actively monitoring your own situation. 2346 01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,760 Speaker 1: And for Dabosweetey, I think some of it, you know, 2347 01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:59,679 Speaker 1: kind of goes back, let's go to the harball world 2348 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,439 Speaker 1: in it and tied them together a little bit of 2349 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,680 Speaker 1: also recognizing who and what you are. Obviously this is 2350 01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 1: a different changing landscape to what Dabo has been. But 2351 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,960 Speaker 1: remember those early years, a lot of six and seven, 2352 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,160 Speaker 1: nine and what nine and fives and seven and six 2353 01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:21,599 Speaker 1: seasons before that decade of dominance right likewise, that Michigan 2354 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:27,320 Speaker 1: grew good program, historical program. The size of Michigan was huge. 2355 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,120 Speaker 1: And when Jim Harbaugh and I'm old enough to remember 2356 01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 1: this because I was laughing at most of my media 2357 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,600 Speaker 1: brethren guys when they were calling for Jim Harbaugh to 2358 01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 1: be fired when he was winning nine games a year, 2359 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,599 Speaker 1: that would I mean, Michigan wasn't a perennial you know, hey, 2360 01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:44,400 Speaker 1: we're national title or bus squad. I don't know, and 2361 01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden that became the standard with Jim Harbaugh. 2362 01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:48,880 Speaker 1: And then you have the three year run and we 2363 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,639 Speaker 1: can talk about that all we want, n till we're 2364 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,760 Speaker 1: blue in the face. Go watch your Netflix documentaries. By 2365 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 1: the way, Conder Stallions was a defensive coordinator last week. 2366 01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:02,200 Speaker 1: It got absolutely drummed. Right, so it's like forty five 2367 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:03,960 Speaker 1: to six or something like that. 2368 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,160 Speaker 4: He couldn't get the signals. He couldn't get the signals 2369 01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:07,679 Speaker 4: high school. 2370 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:11,080 Speaker 3: It's hard, man, you kids that preseason. That's why he's 2371 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:12,479 Speaker 3: trying to figure out the system. 2372 01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 4: Right. 2373 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,599 Speaker 1: It's a new environment. It's going to take some time. 2374 01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 3: He's got to coding correct. 2375 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,040 Speaker 2: If he's going to scout the other high school teams, 2376 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,320 Speaker 2: He's got to get his radio coding correct because he's 2377 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:23,519 Speaker 2: not not on part with them. 2378 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,479 Speaker 3: He's still got the Michigan code numbers on there. 2379 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:27,799 Speaker 4: It's funny. 2380 01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:29,880 Speaker 5: So, Mike, before we move on, I want to make 2381 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 5: sure we talk about this because I do believe like 2382 01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,320 Speaker 5: Dabo is a victim of his own success. Sure, Okay, 2383 01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 5: so Dabbo took Clemson. I was in school when like 2384 01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 5: Danny Ford was still the coach at Clemson, and Clemson 2385 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 5: had won the national title in eighty one, and then 2386 01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,800 Speaker 5: they were a team that we talked about, and I 2387 01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,280 Speaker 5: would say they were more of a regional power than 2388 01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,439 Speaker 5: a national power. Despite winning that national title, they still 2389 01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,280 Speaker 5: never got traction as like that national power that everyone recognized, 2390 01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:01,720 Speaker 5: like an Oklahoma or Nebraska or USC. He builds them 2391 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 5: up after he takes over, and he kind of gets 2392 01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,120 Speaker 5: them going to the point where you talk about winning 2393 01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 5: nineteen games a year. 2394 01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,120 Speaker 4: Then they eventually compete for national titles and win national titles. 2395 01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,080 Speaker 5: Now you have this, Oh, they need to be right 2396 01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,120 Speaker 5: up there with Georgia. But the College Football Playoff expands 2397 01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,040 Speaker 5: to twelve teams, and as long as Clemson gets into 2398 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 5: the tournament, they have a chance of winning the national title. 2399 01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,479 Speaker 5: I think people just have to be careful of this 2400 01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:28,160 Speaker 5: all or nothing. They're going to be undefeated or dabble's 2401 01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,400 Speaker 5: not any good. If they get to ten and two, 2402 01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:32,800 Speaker 5: more than likely they're going to be one of the 2403 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,680 Speaker 5: teams that gets into the twelve man tournament, and that 2404 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,720 Speaker 5: just gives them a shot. We have to remember Georgia, 2405 01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,040 Speaker 5: except for the hiccup that they had last year, Georgia 2406 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,680 Speaker 5: could have been a three time national champion, like a 2407 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,880 Speaker 5: three peat, that's a different team that you're dealing with, 2408 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:51,920 Speaker 5: And so I think people just have to like not 2409 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,800 Speaker 5: overreact to what you saw in week one. 2410 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,519 Speaker 4: Maybe Georgia is much better than we think. 2411 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 5: And if I'm Clemson, look man, we went six to 2412 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:01,960 Speaker 5: three at half time and then it got away from us. 2413 01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:03,920 Speaker 5: Maybe there's some things that we can tighten up to 2414 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:05,599 Speaker 5: put us in a position where if we see them 2415 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,439 Speaker 5: or another team like them again, we could win the game. 2416 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,080 Speaker 2: I have no no disrespect to Bucky Brooks, but let 2417 01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:12,960 Speaker 2: me tell you something. They're in the ACC, which is 2418 01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,599 Speaker 2: not a strong conference. I know you love North Carolina. 2419 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,120 Speaker 2: I do too, I really do. But there's a shot, 2420 01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,160 Speaker 2: the shot they could still win that conference. They can well. 2421 01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,120 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, right, It's the long play and 2422 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,760 Speaker 1: the slow play of it all. But you know the 2423 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,920 Speaker 1: shows today, guys, So you know we got to react 2424 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,479 Speaker 1: to in the moment to what we're doing. But I 2425 01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 1: also say, you know, the best and worst things you 2426 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,720 Speaker 1: can hear as a college Footbay football fan this year is, Hey, 2427 01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:40,519 Speaker 1: the college football Playoff is twelve games, So you're some 2428 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,000 Speaker 1: of it is I can excuse away an early season 2429 01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:46,679 Speaker 1: loss because we still have a chance and rationalizing it 2430 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,000 Speaker 1: versus maybe taking some harsh looks at how we're doing 2431 01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,320 Speaker 1: business and recognizing that maybe we need to change to 2432 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 1: keep competing at that highest of levels, right trying to 2433 01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,840 Speaker 1: figure out like you guys were talking tier zero, Tier one, 2434 01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,720 Speaker 1: Tier two with quarterback. See it's a rich tapestry we 2435 01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,919 Speaker 1: weave here at Fox Sports Radio on a Fox Football 2436 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,280 Speaker 1: Sunday at Andy Furman FSR at Bucky Brooks. Find me 2437 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 1: over at Swollen Dome. It is beautiful to be back 2438 01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,040 Speaker 1: with the gentlemen. We'll continue with more turn our attention 2439 01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,280 Speaker 1: to the National Football League coming up next, but first 2440 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:19,760 Speaker 1: we got Kevin Wyre. With everything going on in our 2441 01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,639 Speaker 1: sporting universe. Yeah, might not have heard, but college football 2442 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:26,679 Speaker 1: has started alrighty Week one, first full day of college 2443 01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:30,320 Speaker 1: football Saturday in the books. As we had a couple 2444 01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,880 Speaker 1: of matchups featuring two ranked teams in Atlanta. It looked 2445 01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,080 Speaker 1: like it was a close one for the first two quarters. 2446 01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,320 Speaker 1: Georgia just had a six to nothing lead against number 2447 01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 1: fourteen Clemson at the halftime break. But it was all 2448 01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,600 Speaker 1: Georgia in the second half, as they would outscore the 2449 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,080 Speaker 1: Tigers by twenty five points and route to it dominating 2450 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,920 Speaker 1: thirty four to three victory. The other rank matchup was 2451 01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,799 Speaker 1: in college station number seven Notre Dame, number twenty Texas 2452 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,839 Speaker 1: A and M. This one was a tight one throughout, 2453 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,000 Speaker 1: tight at six at the break, It was tied at 2454 01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,719 Speaker 1: thirteen late in the fourth quarter before Notre Dame would 2455 01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,840 Speaker 1: pull away to win it twenty three to thirteen. Elsewhere 2456 01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,719 Speaker 1: in college football number three Oregon, it was a nail 2457 01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,720 Speaker 1: bier against Idaho, but they are able to beat the 2458 01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,880 Speaker 1: Vandals twenty four to fourteen Dylan Gabriel three hundred and 2459 01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,640 Speaker 1: eighty yards and to touchdowns. Number nine Michigan it was 2460 01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,080 Speaker 1: in a close one with Fresno State. It was just 2461 01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:29,120 Speaker 1: sixteen ten was six minutes ago, but the Wolverines do 2462 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,679 Speaker 1: eventually win at thirty to ten. Number nineteen Miami. What 2463 01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,680 Speaker 1: more can you say about their impressive performance given an 2464 01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,400 Speaker 1: absolute beatdown to their En State rival of Florida Gators 2465 01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,800 Speaker 1: forty one to seventeen. And in the NFL, do have 2466 01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,439 Speaker 1: an update regarding Ricky Parsal as he was shot during 2467 01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:50,920 Speaker 1: an attempted robbery in San Francisco yesterday and police announcing 2468 01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,599 Speaker 1: they have arrested a suspect, a seventeen year old male 2469 01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:57,679 Speaker 1: from Tracy, California, which is over an hour outside of 2470 01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:01,880 Speaker 1: San Francisco. So the suspect is in custody and we 2471 01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,800 Speaker 1: do hope that Parasol will make a full recovery. Back 2472 01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:10,120 Speaker 1: to you guys so much, Kevin as we continue here, Yeah, 2473 01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 1: good thoughts to him. Obviously a bit of a shocking 2474 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,439 Speaker 1: story in the midst of the glorious nature that was 2475 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,479 Speaker 1: the college football Saturday and to your point, just to 2476 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 1: tie a bow on the clemsing thing nine and four 2477 01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 1: last year, most of you think about your colleges that 2478 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,840 Speaker 1: you support, ones that you went to, ones that maybe 2479 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,280 Speaker 1: you adopted along the way. As I get older, I'm 2480 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,120 Speaker 1: still trying to reconcile that fellas where I paid my 2481 01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,559 Speaker 1: money and my sweat, blood and tears versus folks just saying, 2482 01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a fan of that college team 2483 01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,760 Speaker 1: like it's picking an ice cream flavor. But yeah, you'd 2484 01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:46,120 Speaker 1: kill for a nine win season most of you. Just 2485 01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:48,320 Speaker 1: to remind you of that. Hey, shortly after the show, 2486 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,840 Speaker 1: the podcast goes up. If you missed Eddie off today's show, 2487 01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,240 Speaker 1: be sure to check it out Search Fox Sports Radio 2488 01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:55,439 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts, be sure to follow, rate 2489 01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:59,080 Speaker 1: and review it. Search for Fox Sports Weekends drilled down 2490 01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 1: to Fox Football, so look for Andy smiling face and 2491 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:06,479 Speaker 1: Bucky coming at you and my red faced mug again. 2492 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,000 Speaker 1: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever get your podcast to see 2493 01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,000 Speaker 1: the show listed right after we get off the air, 2494 01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:13,720 Speaker 1: Download it, give it five stars, send it to your 2495 01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,760 Speaker 1: family and friends. It's free. Holiday season will be here 2496 01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,160 Speaker 1: soon enough. That's the gift that keeps on giving. I'm 2497 01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,160 Speaker 1: designing the trading card and QR code for our show 2498 01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,760 Speaker 1: this year. Fellas. Won't have it on the back of 2499 01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:28,360 Speaker 1: my head, but maybe on gift cards that people will 2500 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,160 Speaker 1: send along, and we'll continue to expand the show that way. 2501 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:35,520 Speaker 1: See Innovation in twenty twenty four and coming up next. Hey, 2502 01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,160 Speaker 1: we've got two games to prepare for later on this 2503 01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,400 Speaker 1: week in the National Football League before we reconvene, those 2504 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,960 Speaker 1: will be played, So guess what we'll preview him next 2505 01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:48,560 Speaker 1: on Fox? Hey, welcome back in Fox Football Sunday, Fox 2506 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Mike Carbon alongside Andy Furman Bucky Brooks. Good 2507 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,840 Speaker 1: to have the gang back together, guys. It is a 2508 01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,240 Speaker 1: blessing to be back with you. Here on a Sunday morning, 2509 01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:59,920 Speaker 1: Shay and Mark taking it making a sound so pretty. 2510 01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:04,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Wyret on the update desk today, so all the 2511 01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:07,720 Speaker 1: team fully assembled. Can't wait to watch the editors start 2512 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 1: to work as the games happen in full I just 2513 01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,440 Speaker 1: grab some popcorn and a beverage and just watch their 2514 01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,160 Speaker 1: little hands move so quickly to get the sound that 2515 01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:18,480 Speaker 1: we need the touchdowns. How quickly can we turn that around? 2516 01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:22,200 Speaker 1: The keyboard is now smoking like it's Homer Simpson at 2517 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,160 Speaker 1: the nuclear power plant. That's how fast things get turned 2518 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,800 Speaker 1: around here at Fox Sports Radio. But plenty of games 2519 01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,880 Speaker 1: to preview, but to already that, we need to look at, guys, 2520 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:36,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens getting ready to open things up, the Kansas 2521 01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:42,120 Speaker 1: City Chiefs, big marquee performance, new players mixed into these things. 2522 01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,240 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the Chiefs and the fact 2523 01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,040 Speaker 1: that you know, continuity being king. Do you guys realize 2524 01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,839 Speaker 1: in the National Football League this year there are thirty 2525 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:54,520 Speaker 1: one new coordinators between the offensive and defensive side of 2526 01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:58,600 Speaker 1: the ball. So maybe that's why we had more starters 2527 01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,960 Speaker 1: playing in the preseason. Either that or they got the 2528 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 1: code read from Roger Goodell saying these things have to 2529 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:09,240 Speaker 1: be watchable. We need a TV product. But Ravens and 2530 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs get ready to kick things off here for 2531 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,440 Speaker 1: the new league year. Fellas Andy, I'll start with you, 2532 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,560 Speaker 1: what are you expecting night one? 2533 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,040 Speaker 2: Well, let me just say this. I mean, honestly, when 2534 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,680 Speaker 2: you talk about zero week in college, it's like a 2535 01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,120 Speaker 2: whole home situation. They're going right into it now in 2536 01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,880 Speaker 2: the National Football League Thursday night. Because this is going 2537 01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:32,480 Speaker 2: to be a rivalry. It's kind of a rematch last 2538 01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,480 Speaker 2: year of the kickoff game, of the playoff game of 2539 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:35,960 Speaker 2: a year ago. 2540 01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 3: Look. 2541 01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:39,560 Speaker 2: I look at these two teams and there's like probably 2542 01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:42,360 Speaker 2: bad blood, the two best teams in the AFC obviously, 2543 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:47,480 Speaker 2: and you got to say, well, the Chiefs. Look Patrick 2544 01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:51,480 Speaker 2: Mahomes last year, a two time MVP stat wise, he 2545 01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,880 Speaker 2: had a second worst career in numbers as a start 2546 01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 2: of this year, but he came back in the postseason, 2547 01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,720 Speaker 2: rose to the occasion. I led Kansas City to their 2548 01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:00,840 Speaker 2: third Super Bowl. Right see, you look at what the 2549 01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,200 Speaker 2: Ravens could do. Lamar Jackson, I think he's got something 2550 01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,080 Speaker 2: to prove right now. He's got to build on his 2551 01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:08,000 Speaker 2: MVP year because look, they say he's not a Tier 2552 01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,840 Speaker 2: one quarterback, which I kind of disagree with, but I 2553 01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,720 Speaker 2: think they're putting too much stock on that postseason. 2554 01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,480 Speaker 3: Failures that he's had throughout his career. 2555 01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:17,920 Speaker 2: He passed for almost thirty seven hundred yards last year, 2556 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,560 Speaker 2: twenty four touchdowns. He only had seven picks a year ago. 2557 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,600 Speaker 2: Gus Edwards is gone right now, he's with the Chargers. 2558 01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:26,280 Speaker 2: They're bringing Derrek Henry. Can that help? Should it help? 2559 01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:27,720 Speaker 2: I think it will help. It's going to be the 2560 01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,080 Speaker 2: best running back he had. Well, I use Derek Henry 2561 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:32,400 Speaker 2: like Tennessee did. I don't think they will. I think 2562 01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:34,360 Speaker 2: he won't get the thirty carries or so then he 2563 01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,560 Speaker 2: got in Tennessee. But he's going to give take some 2564 01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:41,160 Speaker 2: pressure off what Patrick Lamar Jackson does. I do like 2565 01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,960 Speaker 2: Baltimore to win this game. I really do. Kansas City 2566 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:48,120 Speaker 2: last year had some hiccups. They really did, and I 2567 01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:50,839 Speaker 2: think Baltimore takes this game. I just think that Bolto 2568 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:53,720 Speaker 2: right now, top to bottom might be in better position 2569 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:54,600 Speaker 2: to win this game. 2570 01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm gonna go with the Kansaity Chiefs to win this. 2571 01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:02,320 Speaker 5: And of course I worry about Baltimore Ravens in terms 2572 01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,280 Speaker 5: of they lose Mike McDonald. Zach Orr takes over as 2573 01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:07,360 Speaker 5: a defensive coordinator. He's been in the league for three 2574 01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,200 Speaker 5: years as a coach, was a longtime player. 2575 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:10,200 Speaker 4: But it's different. 2576 01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,680 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald did a phenomenal job of getting this defense 2577 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 5: up and going. So I worry about those pieces of 2578 01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:19,520 Speaker 5: the puzzle coming together offensively, Like I think they're fine, 2579 01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,360 Speaker 5: But when I look at the perimeter, there's no one 2580 01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:24,720 Speaker 5: that scares the King City Chiefs where they're gonna command 2581 01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:28,840 Speaker 5: double coverage in those things. And Todd Munkin doesn't want 2582 01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,560 Speaker 5: to run this offense like the Ravens used to run 2583 01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,920 Speaker 5: it previously. They're not really a ground and pound team 2584 01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:38,080 Speaker 5: like that. Now Derrick Henry should be utilized as a 2585 01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:40,080 Speaker 5: ground and pound player, but I just have a film 2586 01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 5: they're trying to preserve him for the stretch run. 2587 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:43,160 Speaker 4: To me, this. 2588 01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:46,560 Speaker 5: Plays into Kansas City Chiefs hands. Lamar Jackson is one 2589 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,120 Speaker 5: to four against Pat Mahomes. The Chiefs just know how 2590 01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,680 Speaker 5: to play against the Baltimore Ravens. To me as the 2591 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:52,960 Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs, and I think. 2592 01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:56,720 Speaker 4: They pull away late. Whatever the spread is, I'm gonna 2593 01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,120 Speaker 4: bet the overrunning, not the under. 2594 01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:00,160 Speaker 1: There you go, You're looking at a two and a 2595 01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:03,800 Speaker 1: half or three point line depending on where you're working 2596 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,880 Speaker 1: in this one, and yeah, you had the opportunity. The 2597 01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:10,360 Speaker 1: defense carried the Chiefs until old number fifteen had to 2598 01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,720 Speaker 1: show up when it mattered. And that's the big difference, 2599 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:17,320 Speaker 1: right because playoffs make legacy, all right. The other game 2600 01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:21,400 Speaker 1: coming from Brazil, Friday night football, Packers getting two and 2601 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:25,520 Speaker 1: a half in the road game against the Eagles. We've 2602 01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,360 Speaker 1: had all sorts of stories a goat another one about 2603 01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,200 Speaker 1: X that's popped up on here. Eagles, A lot of 2604 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,760 Speaker 1: questions about that locker room and turmoil. Do you buy that? 2605 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:35,120 Speaker 1: What's it look like for week one? 2606 01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:35,360 Speaker 3: For you? 2607 01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:35,800 Speaker 1: Bucky? 2608 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:40,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Eagles on this one one. 2609 01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:42,360 Speaker 5: I think some of the conversation about the Eagles locker 2610 01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,720 Speaker 5: room certainly has helped him kind of bring it together differently. 2611 01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,920 Speaker 4: Vig Fangio coming on board. They've run more of an old. 2612 01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:51,000 Speaker 5: School traditional training camp than what Nick Sirianni would do 2613 01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:53,080 Speaker 5: when it was more like flag football. They didn't really hit, 2614 01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,640 Speaker 5: it didn't really condition. I think that makes a difference. 2615 01:59:55,960 --> 02:00:01,480 Speaker 5: Offensive coordinator Killen more helping jail hurts advances game. Remember 2616 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:03,560 Speaker 5: what killing more did for Dak Prescott. I think he 2617 02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:06,000 Speaker 5: has the same effect and impact on Jalen Hurts. 2618 02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go Jalen Hurts right now. He threw 2619 02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,160 Speaker 2: for almost thirty nine hundred yards last year, but he 2620 02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,520 Speaker 2: had too many interceptions at fifteen. But I'm gonna tell 2621 02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:13,840 Speaker 2: you right now, I like Philadelphia. 2622 02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:14,360 Speaker 3: I like him a lot. 2623 02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:16,760 Speaker 2: They got the best receiving corps in the National Football 2624 02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:18,880 Speaker 2: League with Smith, Brown and Dotson right now, so I 2625 02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:19,640 Speaker 2: go with the Eagles. 2626 02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Look at you giving Johan Dotson some love. We'll have 2627 02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:26,280 Speaker 1: to discuss that a little bit more. After he has 2628 02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:30,000 Speaker 1: one catch for nine yards. Next he's Handy Verbin at 2629 02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Handy Verbin FSR at Bucky Brooks find me over at 2630 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Swollen Dome. Bucky and I continue for another hour here 2631 02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:40,280 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio. Greeny's welcome in back for another 2632 02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:45,360 Speaker 1: run here Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday. Always want 2633 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,400 Speaker 1: to make sure we get that right with the name change. 2634 02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Kind of like when you change your clocks back and forward. 2635 02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:51,400 Speaker 1: You want to make sure you get it right so 2636 02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,240 Speaker 1: your wake up is right. Same thing here, We're ready 2637 02:00:54,280 --> 02:01:00,000 Speaker 1: for another big football calendar. Week one of the college 2638 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,720 Speaker 1: He's in up and going. More games still on the slate, 2639 02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:06,280 Speaker 1: just a couple of days away from the beginning of 2640 02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,200 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Couldn't do it with anybody better 2641 02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,840 Speaker 1: my guy Bucky Brooks. Years in the league, working down 2642 02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:15,960 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars broadcast and of course NFL Network, our 2643 02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:19,160 Speaker 1: teammate here at Fox Sports Radio Lo these many years. 2644 02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:23,800 Speaker 1: He's a coach, a mentor, and a good friend at 2645 02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks where you find him in the Twitter verse. 2646 02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Good to be back with you, Bucky. Another fun and 2647 02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:29,480 Speaker 1: exciting campaign ready to begin. 2648 02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, excited to be back with you. Mike. Is 2649 02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:34,960 Speaker 4: always fun and we're able to chop it up in 2650 02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,440 Speaker 4: this hour. We're gonna have an opportunity to talk about 2651 02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:39,360 Speaker 4: all things football, which is always fun. 2652 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,040 Speaker 5: But I got to ask you because we talked about it, 2653 02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,120 Speaker 5: and I know you're like a look a deep and 2654 02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:47,320 Speaker 5: devoted Chicago fan and everything right, and so we won't 2655 02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:50,120 Speaker 5: talk about the White Sox, But what do you think 2656 02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,080 Speaker 5: about all the hypes of running the Bears? I know, 2657 02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,520 Speaker 5: like it's been a minute since the Bears have kind 2658 02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:58,680 Speaker 5: of been touted as like musty TV. Does this make 2659 02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:01,200 Speaker 5: you uncomfortable that everyone is clamoring to see what the 2660 02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:03,680 Speaker 5: Bears do this year, particularly Cleveland wis in this offense. 2661 02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think part of it is the everybody wants 2662 02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:10,440 Speaker 1: to be the like they're climbing a giant mountain and 2663 02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:12,840 Speaker 1: they want to put their flag up there first. They're 2664 02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna win the division. No, they're not just gonna win 2665 02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:17,720 Speaker 1: the division. They're gonna be the best team in the NFC. 2666 02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,320 Speaker 1: They're going to the super Bowl. They're going to the 2667 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:24,560 Speaker 1: NFC title like hold on Like for years, it's the 2668 02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:26,440 Speaker 1: can't get out of their own way. Now, I remind 2669 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:29,560 Speaker 1: folks because they've been doing also heard this a lot 2670 02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,640 Speaker 1: and seeing in social media a lot. It's like, could 2671 02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:36,280 Speaker 1: they be this year's Texans? They won seven games last year? Okay, 2672 02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:40,240 Speaker 1: they had the first pick because of Carolina's ineptitude, so 2673 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,080 Speaker 1: let's not forget that, right, they didn't pick number one, 2674 02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:46,840 Speaker 1: and because they were that miserable and one of the 2675 02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:49,960 Speaker 1: best defensive units in the game second half of the year. 2676 02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Montes Sweat coming over from Washington and making that thing 2677 02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,120 Speaker 1: really kick up another level. And eber Flus, you know, 2678 02:02:57,160 --> 02:02:59,160 Speaker 1: as much as we got a deep dive into his 2679 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:02,240 Speaker 1: beard and grew being practices on hard knocks, but the 2680 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,360 Speaker 1: only interesting thing out of the Bears and hard Knocks. 2681 02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,120 Speaker 1: By the way, if you ever want to get out 2682 02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:10,560 Speaker 1: of doing something at your job in your house, emulate 2683 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:14,840 Speaker 1: the Bears being as boring as possible and really not 2684 02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,120 Speaker 1: giving a whole lot of juice because people will be like, yeah, 2685 02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:19,680 Speaker 1: we're not coming back to film there again. 2686 02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, no cursing, no cursing. They wiped off. 2687 02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,920 Speaker 5: They screw uped all the cursing away from the episodes. 2688 02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:30,839 Speaker 5: So it looks very g rated because the mccaskey's wanted 2689 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:32,760 Speaker 5: that representation out there. 2690 02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,160 Speaker 4: Yeah different look, different look for the Bears, right. 2691 02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean the biggest thing is you had the trip 2692 02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:40,720 Speaker 1: to the ice Cream Museum with DJ Moore and his family. 2693 02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:43,240 Speaker 1: The kids are adorable. I mean, they were great stars. 2694 02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:45,680 Speaker 1: We got a lot about the backup quarterbacks, a couple 2695 02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:48,520 Speaker 1: of whom are no longer there, and you know, a 2696 02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,720 Speaker 1: celebration of Tyson Bagent. But the point is, you know, 2697 02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:54,560 Speaker 1: you've got this this heype machine that's rolling off in 2698 02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, at least for now. You say, it looks 2699 02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:02,560 Speaker 1: the part and on paper, I Poles and the Powers 2700 02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:06,160 Speaker 1: that Be in Chicago they built on paper what should 2701 02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:11,360 Speaker 1: be a pretty exciting brand of football and a winning 2702 02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:14,160 Speaker 1: brand of football when you look at the wide receiver corps. 2703 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,920 Speaker 1: You bring in Deandres Swift to go with a backfield 2704 02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:21,000 Speaker 1: that was already pretty strong with Herbert and Roshawn Johnson 2705 02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:24,720 Speaker 1: talked about the defense before Buggy on paper, it all clicks. 2706 02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:28,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised that people gravitated 2707 02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:30,440 Speaker 1: to it because we need a new toy, right it's boring. 2708 02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean even last year, everybody found a way to 2709 02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,360 Speaker 1: talk themselves off the Chiefs and for a long time 2710 02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,400 Speaker 1: during the regular season since they weren't running up thirty 2711 02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:40,720 Speaker 1: eight points a game on folks, it made you look 2712 02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:43,760 Speaker 1: okay until it was winning time. And while same old 2713 02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,200 Speaker 1: song and dance for the Bears. Yeah, it's a shiny 2714 02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:48,720 Speaker 1: new toy for everybody to go and look at instead 2715 02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:50,600 Speaker 1: of just being a dismissed afterthought. 2716 02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's a shiny new toy. 2717 02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:57,840 Speaker 5: Quarterback is outstanding in terms of like he flashed just 2718 02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:00,960 Speaker 5: enough to wet everybody's appetite, so you ignore some of 2719 02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,080 Speaker 5: the things that may have happened, like the three three 2720 02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:05,000 Speaker 5: and outs in a row against the Bengals because you 2721 02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,120 Speaker 5: see the outstanding gunslinger play that he makes. 2722 02:05:08,160 --> 02:05:10,840 Speaker 1: It's all about highlight sizzle reels. Bucky, you know this, 2723 02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:13,120 Speaker 1: it's a lot of sizzle. 2724 02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this because I'm really curious to see 2725 02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,320 Speaker 5: who really calls the defense. Matt eber Flus did a 2726 02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:23,040 Speaker 5: great job last year fixing the defense and getting going. 2727 02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:26,280 Speaker 5: Mantes Sweat emerged as a star. They traded for him, 2728 02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:28,520 Speaker 5: paid him, and he played really really well, like a 2729 02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:32,320 Speaker 5: dominant defender. They bring in I think an underrated playmate 2730 02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:35,360 Speaker 5: in Austin Booker that he drafted the fourth round, who 2731 02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:39,400 Speaker 5: flashes during the preseason. But Eric Washington is kind of 2732 02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:43,240 Speaker 5: there in the thing, and he runs a little different 2733 02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:46,840 Speaker 5: defense than eber Flues. And how do they mail those 2734 02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:50,000 Speaker 5: things together when the defense appeared to be trending. 2735 02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:51,920 Speaker 4: In the right direction. 2736 02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, just a lot of curiosity about the Bears and 2737 02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:58,840 Speaker 5: a lot of intrigue and the fact that I'm gonna 2738 02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:01,320 Speaker 5: get to see him in London, and I'll say this, look, man, 2739 02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,440 Speaker 5: they could be four five and four and all four 2740 02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:06,800 Speaker 5: and one, five and aero by the time to get 2741 02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:09,800 Speaker 5: to London. That's a lot a lot of expectation on 2742 02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:10,240 Speaker 5: a bit. 2743 02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, but that's just it the way the schedule work. 2744 02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:15,200 Speaker 1: And I have issues with the NFL scheduling, they're well chronicled. 2745 02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:19,120 Speaker 1: You can find the podcasts here from Sunday Mornings. You 2746 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:21,520 Speaker 1: can find them on the show that I do with 2747 02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Jason Smith. Just the way the schedules are built for 2748 02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of these squads, right, we were talking about 2749 02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Before you look at the divisional schedules saved 2750 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,520 Speaker 1: for the Steelers and such, or you're not playing any 2751 02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:38,280 Speaker 1: of those division games until the final six or seven 2752 02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:41,520 Speaker 1: weeks of the year. Meanwhile, you've had ten weeks of 2753 02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:44,600 Speaker 1: the slog of a season, and we're going to decide 2754 02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:48,360 Speaker 1: a division based on what's left right the war of Attrition, 2755 02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,200 Speaker 1: instead of, hey, we get some of these games early 2756 02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:54,920 Speaker 1: while they're at full or as full a roster as 2757 02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,000 Speaker 1: they could be. That kind of bugs me a bit, Bucky. 2758 02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. But the Bears, they start with 2759 02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:04,280 Speaker 1: three straight games against the AFC South. He got the Titans, 2760 02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:08,040 Speaker 1: the Texans, and the Colts right away, then a home 2761 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:10,680 Speaker 1: date against the game against the Rams at the end 2762 02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:15,520 Speaker 1: of September, then the Panthers and then your Jaguars. The 2763 02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:21,960 Speaker 1: thirteenth of October. So yeah, on the schedule there, you've 2764 02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:25,640 Speaker 1: got a lot that you size it up and say, okay, Titans, 2765 02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:29,960 Speaker 1: new coach, new system there, right, And I mean, it's 2766 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,280 Speaker 1: gonna be weird to not see Vrabel stalking a sideline 2767 02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:36,840 Speaker 1: there and everything else. So and know Derrick Henry so 2768 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:41,040 Speaker 1: a new identity forged the Texans. The matchup everybody wants 2769 02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,840 Speaker 1: to see again those comparisons that we want to have 2770 02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Caleb and CJ. Stroud be the banner carriers for the 2771 02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:51,080 Speaker 1: next age of football. The Colts in Week three excitement again. 2772 02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because you want to talk about creating headlines 2773 02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:57,600 Speaker 1: right now, you got Anthony Richardson who flashed a bit 2774 02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,080 Speaker 1: before getting hurt. I'm afraid that unless he learned a 2775 02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:03,880 Speaker 1: lot about sliding, maybe he did that slip and slide 2776 02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:06,680 Speaker 1: things like the Bears did. That was one of the 2777 02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,000 Speaker 1: things that was fun on hard knocks. We're gonna teach 2778 02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:10,360 Speaker 1: you how to slide? What are we gonna do? And 2779 02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:12,360 Speaker 1: they rolled out of forty foot slip and slide like 2780 02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,320 Speaker 1: they were four years old in the front yard again, 2781 02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:15,280 Speaker 1: So that was kind of cool. 2782 02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,600 Speaker 5: It's funny because I've seen this happen a few times 2783 02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:23,000 Speaker 5: with athletic quarterbacks. I think the Braves were asked to 2784 02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,280 Speaker 5: come in and teach Michael Vick how to slide. Yeah, 2785 02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:29,120 Speaker 5: And to me, I'm just like a great athlete, like man, 2786 02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 5: he didn't play other sports when he was coming up. 2787 02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:34,320 Speaker 5: He never played baseball coming up as great of an athlete. 2788 02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,080 Speaker 4: As he was, that we have to teach him to 2789 02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:37,640 Speaker 4: slide in his twenties. 2790 02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Well, he specialized ely Bucky. 2791 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2792 02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:42,400 Speaker 5: I mean those are things that we learned when we're 2793 02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:46,240 Speaker 5: what seven, yeah, eight years old, that kind of stuff. 2794 02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:49,920 Speaker 4: I just think, I think we just have. 2795 02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:53,240 Speaker 5: To continue to pause when it comes to the Colts 2796 02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:57,240 Speaker 5: and the quarterback Anthony Richardson and those things. Look, man, 2797 02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:01,120 Speaker 5: he just he's never really and we got people talking 2798 02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:04,040 Speaker 5: about him as like Pro Bowl MVP caliber. 2799 02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:05,200 Speaker 4: All four games. 2800 02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Wow. That But that's where we're at, right. We love 2801 02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:13,240 Speaker 1: what we'd love to do. Dirty Laundry came on while 2802 02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:14,800 Speaker 1: I was sitting in traffic trying to go to my 2803 02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:17,440 Speaker 1: daughter's soccer game yesterday, but to extend it to our 2804 02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:20,520 Speaker 1: sports world, and I mean, we we love that flash 2805 02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,480 Speaker 1: and we want to go to hot take nonsense, right 2806 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,480 Speaker 1: and extrapolate because even college wise, right, I mean I 2807 02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:28,440 Speaker 1: sat next to Smith when he was trying to make 2808 02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:32,440 Speaker 1: him a Heisman guy right September. Heisman's just like last 2809 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,680 Speaker 1: year as we did with Colorado and maybe we do again, 2810 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:38,600 Speaker 1: And I kept trying to tamp down his expectations. Like 2811 02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:43,480 Speaker 1: one It's still was an erratic back and forth. Like 2812 02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:47,080 Speaker 1: to your point about Caleb Williams, some sizzle stuff. There's 2813 02:09:47,120 --> 02:09:49,840 Speaker 1: going to be some big time exciting plays. Guess what 2814 02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:52,080 Speaker 1: you had that with the last guy every once in 2815 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:55,320 Speaker 1: a while. Now hopefully the big thing they switch to 2816 02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Caleb is that they're more consistent. Uh and he doesn't 2817 02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:01,920 Speaker 1: drop the ball when pressure quite as much as Justin 2818 02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Fields did. We'll get into Pittsburgh in a minute, but 2819 02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,360 Speaker 1: it's just the idea. You know, Roman Dunsa looks like 2820 02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:10,800 Speaker 1: he could be the real deal. I'm not sure how 2821 02:10:10,840 --> 02:10:13,840 Speaker 1: many games you get out of Keenan Allen's knees on 2822 02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:17,800 Speaker 1: that Soldier field. I mean the field. The park District 2823 02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:21,520 Speaker 1: does a terrible job. Monster trucks high school football games, 2824 02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:24,080 Speaker 1: a concert and the Bear's place all day afternoon, you know, 2825 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,720 Speaker 1: all of those kind of things. So we have that 2826 02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:30,320 Speaker 1: to work through but for Richardson, same thing. But you know, 2827 02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:32,680 Speaker 1: I feel confident if nothing else. They went and they 2828 02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:36,760 Speaker 1: were smart, and they brought in Joe Flacco, who's still elite, 2829 02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:40,680 Speaker 1: just kidding, but showed that he can still be serviceable. 2830 02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:44,280 Speaker 1: So maybe your season at with the roster that's been 2831 02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:50,560 Speaker 1: constructed doesn't fall apart if Richardson's hurt again. And sliding's 2832 02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:53,200 Speaker 1: one part of it, Bucky, that just the field awareness 2833 02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,480 Speaker 1: to do the old Painton manning thing for these young 2834 02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:58,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks seems to be the one thing. I'd have him 2835 02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,640 Speaker 1: and his brother go around and teach, Hey, you know what, 2836 02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:03,760 Speaker 1: do that thing? You know those old toys where you'd 2837 02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,320 Speaker 1: press the button at the bottom and the legs would 2838 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:08,800 Speaker 1: collapse and then you'd let it go in then tut 2839 02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:11,480 Speaker 1: on and pop right back. That was the Mannings for 2840 02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:15,040 Speaker 1: their entire careers. Wait, I'm about to get hit turtle down. 2841 02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I go live to see it, take the four yard 2842 02:11:18,040 --> 02:11:20,800 Speaker 1: loss or whatever it is, but live to see another 2843 02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:23,360 Speaker 1: play instead of trying to extend it and either getting 2844 02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:27,400 Speaker 1: yourself killed throwing the ball into harm's way or risking 2845 02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:30,080 Speaker 1: the fumble, the stripsack fumble. 2846 02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's the thing is It's that fine line, right, 2847 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:38,720 Speaker 5: because you want all the benefits of the playmaking, the 2848 02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:42,920 Speaker 5: stuff that everyone talks about, the sexy stuff, right right, Oh, 2849 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:45,440 Speaker 5: he can throw off script and off platform, and oh, 2850 02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:48,240 Speaker 5: look at the tools and all the stuff that we 2851 02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:51,640 Speaker 5: can do because he's so athletic or whatever. But you 2852 02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:53,839 Speaker 5: also want those guys to take care of the football. 2853 02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:56,360 Speaker 5: You want them to be available for all sixteen games. 2854 02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:00,200 Speaker 5: So how do you toe that line? Lamar Jackson, for 2855 02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:01,880 Speaker 5: the most part of his career, he's been able to 2856 02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:04,600 Speaker 5: do it because you rarely see him take a big shot, 2857 02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:06,640 Speaker 5: and the big shots that he's taken, the shots where 2858 02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:11,080 Speaker 5: he's been hurt, have happened in the pocket. But quarterbacks 2859 02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,000 Speaker 5: and all players have to kind of learn this because 2860 02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:16,160 Speaker 5: sometimes guys get on receivers because you'll see them catch 2861 02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:17,880 Speaker 5: the ball and all of a sudden you see them 2862 02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:24,240 Speaker 5: almost hook slideer their dive to get into the ground. Man, 2863 02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:27,880 Speaker 5: playing seventeen games is the ultimate goal, and sometimes you 2864 02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:30,200 Speaker 5: have to pick and choose when you make the hero 2865 02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:32,640 Speaker 5: play and when you just get down and live to 2866 02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:35,000 Speaker 5: play another day. And so all the quarterbacks have to 2867 02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:38,840 Speaker 5: learn what's more important, and a lot of times availability 2868 02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:41,160 Speaker 5: is more important than the single game play that you 2869 02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:41,600 Speaker 5: have to make. 2870 02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:41,840 Speaker 3: Well. 2871 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:45,160 Speaker 1: Look at Lamar right gets another MVP twenty four and 2872 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:48,720 Speaker 1: seven touchdown to interception ratio. But the key stat to 2873 02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:51,720 Speaker 1: it all was he played sixteen games right the prior 2874 02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:55,320 Speaker 1: two years, twelve games, twelve games, no matter who you know, 2875 02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:59,360 Speaker 1: we talk wins above replacement right for baseball all the time. 2876 02:12:59,640 --> 02:13:03,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what that margin is for Lamar Jackson between 2877 02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,840 Speaker 1: who has to replace him and I don't care if 2878 02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:09,880 Speaker 1: they've taken good care of the backup position as we 2879 02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:14,800 Speaker 1: know so many teams usually fail at because it's the 2880 02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:17,920 Speaker 1: money of money position, right and trying to make sure 2881 02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:20,919 Speaker 1: the room is what it is when we have sixty 2882 02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:25,440 Speaker 1: six guys take start games last year, so trying to 2883 02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,280 Speaker 1: stay up upright and play the seventeen games is huge. 2884 02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:30,800 Speaker 1: But for Lamar, you know, for everything else that he 2885 02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:32,920 Speaker 1: did in the regular season, like that's the badge of 2886 02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:36,320 Speaker 1: honor for me. Somehow he stayed on to fight for 2887 02:13:36,440 --> 02:13:37,400 Speaker 1: sixteen games. 2888 02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:42,400 Speaker 5: Well, being available is everything, right, Like, ultimately, this game 2889 02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:45,520 Speaker 5: is a player's game, and if you have the better 2890 02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:48,000 Speaker 5: players more time than not, you're going to win. And 2891 02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:50,360 Speaker 5: the thing is you have to balance. How can I 2892 02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:52,680 Speaker 5: get my players to the starting line. How can you 2893 02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:55,400 Speaker 5: get my best players to the starting line each week 2894 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:58,440 Speaker 5: so I can increase the odds of my team winning. 2895 02:13:58,640 --> 02:14:01,320 Speaker 5: And that's what teams are looking that. And it's not 2896 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:05,640 Speaker 5: necessarily load management like you see in basketball, but it's 2897 02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:06,400 Speaker 5: something too. 2898 02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:09,160 Speaker 4: Being available and understanding the moment. 2899 02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:12,200 Speaker 5: The great thing about Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and 2900 02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:16,080 Speaker 5: those great quarterbacks is they understood how important it was 2901 02:14:16,160 --> 02:14:20,520 Speaker 5: to preserve themselves. That's why you see Peyton Manny have 2902 02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:22,120 Speaker 5: the clock go off and it's head where he would 2903 02:14:22,160 --> 02:14:27,640 Speaker 5: just fall down, like yeah, just falling down like those 2904 02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:30,920 Speaker 5: little sleeping goats that you've seen on these things, they 2905 02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:33,320 Speaker 5: just they just fall down. They just collapse and they 2906 02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:36,840 Speaker 5: get paralyzed, like just with the pressure and all that 2907 02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:39,760 Speaker 5: other stuff. Sometimes you just have to do that so 2908 02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:41,880 Speaker 5: you can live the player another day. It's really important 2909 02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:44,560 Speaker 5: to be available and you want your players to be available, 2910 02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:46,440 Speaker 5: and so these young quarterbacks have to learn that. 2911 02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Well, we look at Baltimore and Los Angeles, two teams 2912 02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:52,800 Speaker 1: you know follow obviously live here in Los Angeles, folks, 2913 02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:56,400 Speaker 1: that works around the Chargers and and you know it's 2914 02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,720 Speaker 1: it's the home home squads as we're out here obviously 2915 02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:02,240 Speaker 1: paying attention to my bears, and I've been doing radio 2916 02:15:02,240 --> 02:15:05,680 Speaker 1: spots in Baltimore for almost twenty years. But Baltimore and 2917 02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles link not just together because of the hardballs, 2918 02:15:09,320 --> 02:15:13,240 Speaker 1: but they've had a couple of training rooms that you 2919 02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:15,520 Speaker 1: look at and say, you know, you've got to exercise 2920 02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:18,240 Speaker 1: some demons out of there. With the numbers of games 2921 02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:22,880 Speaker 1: lost due to injury right in very key positions, and 2922 02:15:23,080 --> 02:15:27,480 Speaker 1: that can't be understated, right, And why they keep expanding 2923 02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:31,160 Speaker 1: all these specialists in these Look if your kids are 2924 02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:34,120 Speaker 1: going and they have any interest in science, sports, science, 2925 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:38,520 Speaker 1: physical therapy, whatever else. Keeps growing league by league because 2926 02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:42,560 Speaker 1: you're getting specialists for every position group, every player guys 2927 02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:46,360 Speaker 1: hiring them their own off season. There's your word of 2928 02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:49,320 Speaker 1: professional advice. Hey, you're looking for a new career, you 2929 02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:51,560 Speaker 1: can go do that as well at Bucky Brooks where 2930 02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:53,560 Speaker 1: you find them on Twitter. Find me over at Swollen Dome. 2931 02:15:53,600 --> 02:15:56,840 Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from the tirerac dot com studios. 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In 2941 02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:34,200 Speaker 1: the Instagram world, find me over at Swollen Dome in both. 2942 02:16:34,920 --> 02:16:38,160 Speaker 1: A lot of fantasy content coming up in short order. 2943 02:16:38,200 --> 02:16:40,920 Speaker 1: The iwatcher Flex podcast is returned, so you can get 2944 02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that wherever you download your audio. Check out Bucky's latest 2945 02:16:44,720 --> 02:16:47,920 Speaker 1: NFL dot com and when you follow him you'll see 2946 02:16:47,959 --> 02:16:52,080 Speaker 1: all the video and written word that he's got on 2947 02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:56,320 Speaker 1: a weekly basis, of course. And after us today, you 2948 02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,000 Speaker 1: want to stay tuned, of course, because every Sunday morning 2949 02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:03,320 Speaker 1: be getting ten am Eastern seven o'clock Pacific. Countdown to 2950 02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:07,720 Speaker 1: Kickoff has return, presented by Bett MGM, Brian No, Jeff 2951 02:17:07,720 --> 02:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Schwartz and professional better Bill Krackenberger. They've got covered three 2952 02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:14,560 Speaker 1: hours before kickoff every Sunday morning, you can listen to 2953 02:17:14,560 --> 02:17:17,920 Speaker 1: Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM right here of 2954 02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:21,640 Speaker 1: across the vast Fox Sports radio network and as always, 2955 02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:23,640 Speaker 1: take it with you as you're on the go on 2956 02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:27,400 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app or some great promotion for Jeff Schwartz 2957 02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:30,760 Speaker 1: they were on. He was on a billboarding Times Square 2958 02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:36,120 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks for podcasts that he does. Next lot of stuff. 2959 02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:38,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Time Square, huh. 2960 02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, big timing man needs some of that. I was 2961 02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna say, we'll have to figure that out. So let's 2962 02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:50,120 Speaker 1: say something outrageous and crazy to get things started and 2963 02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,879 Speaker 1: go viral here as we get ready for week one 2964 02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:54,959 Speaker 1: of the NFL seasons. See, that's what we do, Bucky, 2965 02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:58,480 Speaker 1: just say some crazy stuff because in the end they 2966 02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:01,720 Speaker 1: shrug and you move on. Just the cacophony of voices. 2967 02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:04,880 Speaker 1: But what of the stories that's still sitting there kind 2968 02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:07,320 Speaker 1: of simmering in the fun and exciting world. Was the 2969 02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:13,480 Speaker 1: off season quarterback quote unquote derby competition whatever you want 2970 02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:16,040 Speaker 1: to call it in Pittsburgh. Right when we watch Russell 2971 02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:20,640 Speaker 1: Wilson justin fields. They both come in Pittsburgh's not really 2972 02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:23,039 Speaker 1: paying any money to either of them, both on a 2973 02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:26,280 Speaker 1: try it out and let's see how it take it 2974 02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:29,320 Speaker 1: out for a spin. Wilson got hurt on the blocking 2975 02:18:29,400 --> 02:18:32,280 Speaker 1: sled again, one of the dumber injuries I think we've 2976 02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:35,600 Speaker 1: seen in recent memory. You know, this is the hey 2977 02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:37,160 Speaker 1: I can move that. I had a guy who worked 2978 02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:40,760 Speaker 1: with long ago. I did some building maintenance jobs in 2979 02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:44,680 Speaker 1: college during the you know breaks and during the summer, 2980 02:18:44,959 --> 02:18:48,160 Speaker 1: and had go help the building engineers with whatever. Some 2981 02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:51,520 Speaker 1: of it was, you know, working on the sprinkler systems 2982 02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:55,080 Speaker 1: and getting shot at in Chicago. Some of it was 2983 02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:59,879 Speaker 1: just removing old pipe piping, right, they'd have us in 2984 02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:02,280 Speaker 1: doing that. And then we had one you know, the 2985 02:19:02,320 --> 02:19:06,200 Speaker 1: old radiators that weigh like nine pounds that you're supposed 2986 02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:08,160 Speaker 1: to saw us all in the little chunks and then 2987 02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:12,920 Speaker 1: cart out. Nah. I had a building guy that decided, nah, 2988 02:19:13,280 --> 02:19:17,119 Speaker 1: watch I'm strong. I forget where he was originally from, 2989 02:19:17,160 --> 02:19:19,360 Speaker 1: but he was like, I'm a man, watch this. We 2990 02:19:19,440 --> 02:19:21,400 Speaker 1: don't need any of those extra things. You don't need 2991 02:19:21,440 --> 02:19:25,080 Speaker 1: to waste your time saws all in this and cutting 2992 02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:27,360 Speaker 1: it into the component parts. Now I'm gonna take out 2993 02:19:27,400 --> 02:19:30,920 Speaker 1: this six coil thing that probably weighs four hundred pounds. 2994 02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:35,120 Speaker 1: He ripped himself like you would not believe, and he 2995 02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:38,520 Speaker 1: knew it immediately he got the thing off the ground 2996 02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:42,680 Speaker 1: about six inches let out the most guttural scream I've 2997 02:19:42,720 --> 02:19:49,199 Speaker 1: ever heard. All that to say, you know, it's flocking sleds, 2998 02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:50,760 Speaker 1: not what a quarterback should be doing. 2999 02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:53,200 Speaker 4: That's funny. 3000 02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:58,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, so not in the program now and high 3001 02:19:58,280 --> 02:19:59,920 Speaker 5: school and those things, you can get away with it, 3002 02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:01,600 Speaker 5: but not in the pro game. And the fact that 3003 02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:04,240 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson got hurt doing that, I'm kind of trying 3004 02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:06,360 Speaker 5: to figure out what they're doing on the sled like 3005 02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:07,320 Speaker 5: that shouldn't happen. 3006 02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:09,120 Speaker 4: But you need him available. 3007 02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:12,800 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of consternation about Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh. 3008 02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:14,280 Speaker 5: A lot of people worried about him, a lot of 3009 02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:17,800 Speaker 5: people trying to pour dirt on Russell Wilson in those things. 3010 02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:21,359 Speaker 5: And I think everyone has to understand how to Stellers 3011 02:20:21,400 --> 02:20:24,800 Speaker 5: want to play. I think there's still this, I said, 3012 02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:29,480 Speaker 5: fascination with Russell Wilson being what many thought that he 3013 02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:32,560 Speaker 5: should be when they were campaigning for let Russ cook. 3014 02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:36,080 Speaker 5: I think Russ's best is at his best when he 3015 02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:39,560 Speaker 5: is in a managerial role, who is allowed to maybe 3016 02:20:39,560 --> 02:20:42,040 Speaker 5: cook in the fourth quarter when the team really needs it. 3017 02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:44,480 Speaker 5: I expect the Pittsburgh still is to put him in 3018 02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:46,760 Speaker 5: that role. They're gonna run the football, they're gonna throw 3019 02:20:46,800 --> 02:20:48,440 Speaker 5: the ball to George Pickens and those things. 3020 02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:50,200 Speaker 4: But this team is still built on. 3021 02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:54,320 Speaker 5: Defense, running game, and then magical playmaking ability from the quarterback. 3022 02:20:54,879 --> 02:20:56,039 Speaker 4: They believe they can get that. 3023 02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:58,959 Speaker 5: From Russell Wilson, and if not, you're gonna see Justin 3024 02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:02,400 Speaker 5: Fields midseason come in there. If they don't get it 3025 02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:04,160 Speaker 5: from Russell Wilson early in the year. 3026 02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:08,160 Speaker 1: And that's the curiosity, right Arthur Smith comes over, most 3027 02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:12,160 Speaker 1: notable in his recent NFL tenure, known as the guy 3028 02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:15,760 Speaker 1: that did not deploy Bijon Robinson enough in the fantasy 3029 02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:19,640 Speaker 1: game last year, so a lot of might be the 3030 02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:22,160 Speaker 1: first time he got a lot of run as a 3031 02:21:22,200 --> 02:21:25,000 Speaker 1: coach nationally, not because of what his team was doing, 3032 02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:27,960 Speaker 1: but because what he was doing to fantasy teams. Jon 3033 02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:30,280 Speaker 1: still had himself a pretty good year, but not the 3034 02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:34,000 Speaker 1: two thousand yards and deity status that so many had 3035 02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:36,600 Speaker 1: proclaimed for him. So now he goes there and asks 3036 02:21:36,640 --> 02:21:40,080 Speaker 1: to try to figure out and solve the Rubik's cube 3037 02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:42,440 Speaker 1: of what has been one of the league's worst offenses 3038 02:21:42,920 --> 02:21:45,920 Speaker 1: since Ben Roethlisberger left and even the end of Ben 3039 02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:48,879 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger wasn't pretty either. But for the last five years, 3040 02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Bucky the bottom ten in terms of offensive production. And 3041 02:21:53,560 --> 02:21:57,280 Speaker 1: now you've got Russ and I don't know what Russ 3042 02:21:57,360 --> 02:22:00,880 Speaker 1: is in the end. If Harris and Warren and whomever 3043 02:22:00,920 --> 02:22:04,880 Speaker 1: else ends up running the football, Corderyl Patterson is there 3044 02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:07,800 Speaker 1: maybe for a big splash play now and again a 3045 02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:11,240 Speaker 1: guy that he worked with in Atlanta that maybe you 3046 02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:14,119 Speaker 1: find a little bit of something. But you know, Calvin 3047 02:22:14,160 --> 02:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Austen van Jefferson, maybe Roman Wilson becomes a bigger player 3048 02:22:19,360 --> 02:22:22,160 Speaker 1: for him. And then when healthy, Friarmooth's one of the 3049 02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:24,200 Speaker 1: best tight ends in the game. So you got that. 3050 02:22:24,720 --> 02:22:28,760 Speaker 1: But it's the Mike Tomlin question again of at what 3051 02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:33,080 Speaker 1: point is like we did with Lamar Jackson right transferred 3052 02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:36,800 Speaker 1: to the coaches, when does the lack of playoff success matter? 3053 02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:39,680 Speaker 1: And I know Pittsburgh's a different animal, but last year 3054 02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:42,080 Speaker 1: everybody jumped up and down saying it was unfair. He's 3055 02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:45,039 Speaker 1: got all these winning seasons. It's like, is that good enough? 3056 02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean for me, no, But and I 3057 02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:52,120 Speaker 1: love Mike Tomlin to death, one of my favorite coaches 3058 02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:54,360 Speaker 1: that have' you know had the pleasure to be around 3059 02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:57,320 Speaker 1: over these many years, but from a reality standpoint of 3060 02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:00,920 Speaker 1: like when when is the time for a new voice? 3061 02:23:01,160 --> 02:23:03,640 Speaker 5: Well, you don't have to really worry about that because 3062 02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:05,120 Speaker 5: he's an extension. 3063 02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, going to that's that's going to put him there. 3064 02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:13,360 Speaker 5: I think the bigger thing will be this, can Mike Tomlin, 3065 02:23:13,600 --> 02:23:15,400 Speaker 5: who's done a really good job of what I would 3066 02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:18,879 Speaker 5: say making average teams good, can he take a good 3067 02:23:18,879 --> 02:23:21,840 Speaker 5: team and make it great again. That's what we haven't 3068 02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:25,640 Speaker 5: seen because the great teams not only compile double digit wins, 3069 02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:29,240 Speaker 5: but they also flex their muscles in the postseason. The 3070 02:23:29,280 --> 02:23:32,560 Speaker 5: biggest knock on Mike Tomlin has been, yeah, he's you know, 3071 02:23:32,800 --> 02:23:34,560 Speaker 5: a lot of empty calories. 3072 02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:37,400 Speaker 4: He's like a bag of potato chips. Right. They win 3073 02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:37,800 Speaker 4: a lot of. 3074 02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:40,880 Speaker 5: Games, he doesn't have a losing season, but they haven't 3075 02:23:40,959 --> 02:23:44,240 Speaker 5: had that playoff success to validate him as one of 3076 02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:46,920 Speaker 5: the all time greats as a coach. They have to 3077 02:23:46,959 --> 02:23:49,760 Speaker 5: have that playoff success. And when you look at this roster, 3078 02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:52,000 Speaker 5: you say, hey man, this is a good team. Mike 3079 02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:54,200 Speaker 5: Tomlin now has to take a good team and make 3080 02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:56,520 Speaker 5: it great in a division that is going to be 3081 02:23:56,600 --> 02:23:58,039 Speaker 5: crazy competitive, because. 3082 02:23:57,800 --> 02:23:59,600 Speaker 4: There's not a weak link in the division. 3083 02:24:00,040 --> 02:24:04,680 Speaker 5: You look at the rosses of Cleveland, Cincinnati, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh. 3084 02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:06,560 Speaker 4: It's a heavyweight fight in a division. 3085 02:24:06,879 --> 02:24:08,520 Speaker 5: He has to figure out a way to help his 3086 02:24:08,560 --> 02:24:11,360 Speaker 5: squad get on top of a division that's loaded well. 3087 02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:13,760 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, right for Bill Belichick. We excuse 3088 02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:17,200 Speaker 1: some of Bill Belichick the GM for years because they 3089 02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:19,840 Speaker 1: were still winning, and a lot of that is, you know, 3090 02:24:19,920 --> 02:24:22,880 Speaker 1: old Number twelve solved a lot of ills and covered 3091 02:24:22,959 --> 02:24:24,959 Speaker 1: up a lot of problems, There's no question about that. 3092 02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:27,959 Speaker 1: And then eventually he's gone and you can't cover that 3093 02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:30,600 Speaker 1: up anymore. And then you start doing crazy stuff like 3094 02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:34,600 Speaker 1: making defensive coordinators your offensive coordinator for a young quarterback 3095 02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:38,000 Speaker 1: and pretending, well, I mean look down Jacksonville, like that 3096 02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:40,320 Speaker 1: was one of the big headlines of the week that 3097 02:24:40,680 --> 02:24:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, for Doug Peterson, I still got to coach 3098 02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:44,840 Speaker 1: some of the Patriots out of Mac Jones. 3099 02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you have some of that where where 3100 02:24:51,400 --> 02:24:53,119 Speaker 4: Mac Jones you had to kind of get that out 3101 02:24:53,160 --> 02:24:53,400 Speaker 4: of there. 3102 02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:57,199 Speaker 5: And sometimes with coaches like you can be a victim 3103 02:24:57,240 --> 02:24:59,400 Speaker 5: of your own success in terms of like sometimes you've 3104 02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,160 Speaker 5: had so much says to a certain way you were 3105 02:25:01,160 --> 02:25:02,080 Speaker 5: reluctant to change. 3106 02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Sure, we were talking about it with the last hour. 3107 02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:07,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, what you want to see from Mike Tomlin is 3108 02:25:07,480 --> 02:25:10,520 Speaker 5: this team continue to evolve, to continue to find different 3109 02:25:10,520 --> 02:25:13,640 Speaker 5: ways to play based on what they have available with 3110 02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:14,400 Speaker 5: their personnel. 3111 02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:17,920 Speaker 4: And I know we're at a time where everyone. 3112 02:25:17,640 --> 02:25:19,640 Speaker 5: Kind of wants to see the fun and sexy offense 3113 02:25:19,640 --> 02:25:22,520 Speaker 5: in those things, I still believe that the Stealers have 3114 02:25:22,600 --> 02:25:25,520 Speaker 5: to remain in character. They have always been at their 3115 02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:28,120 Speaker 5: best and had the most success when the formula is 3116 02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:29,880 Speaker 5: what we just talked about five minutes ago. 3117 02:25:29,959 --> 02:25:32,439 Speaker 4: The formula has always been for the Steelers. 3118 02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:37,520 Speaker 5: Defense, running game, and timely playmaking from the quarterback. The 3119 02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:40,680 Speaker 5: Ben Roethlisberger era, for as great as it was with 3120 02:25:40,720 --> 02:25:45,000 Speaker 5: the Triple B's and him and Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell, 3121 02:25:45,560 --> 02:25:49,160 Speaker 5: they didn't win it all with that crew they wanted 3122 02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:53,160 Speaker 5: when Ben Roethlisberger was more of a compliment to what 3123 02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:55,600 Speaker 5: they had defensively and running game. 3124 02:25:55,720 --> 02:25:56,680 Speaker 4: Even when he made. 3125 02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:59,640 Speaker 5: That spectacular play against the Cardinals in the Super Bowl, 3126 02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:03,000 Speaker 5: team still was governed by their defense more so than 3127 02:26:03,040 --> 02:26:05,800 Speaker 5: Ben Roethlisberger. So if they get back to that, if 3128 02:26:05,800 --> 02:26:08,160 Speaker 5: they just kind of step into that and take all 3129 02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:10,680 Speaker 5: the criticism and win games with the defense and running 3130 02:26:10,720 --> 02:26:13,920 Speaker 5: game leading the way. Everyone will eventually have to shut 3131 02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:15,720 Speaker 5: up because the proof is into putting. 3132 02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:17,440 Speaker 4: The proof is into success and the results. 3133 02:26:17,520 --> 02:26:21,080 Speaker 1: What is funny is maybe out of some respect that 3134 02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:24,240 Speaker 1: Tom Bot will win a game or two that he shouldn't. 3135 02:26:24,520 --> 02:26:26,320 Speaker 1: What have you. We were talking about the Bears a 3136 02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:30,400 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Think about where the national and even 3137 02:26:30,560 --> 02:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I think to a degree local narratives right, because there's 3138 02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:37,520 Speaker 1: you might have a little bit of cautious optimism. Again 3139 02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:40,600 Speaker 1: going back TJ. Watt stays healthy, and you've got a 3140 02:26:40,640 --> 02:26:44,680 Speaker 1: defense that keeps you in games, and that offensively you'll 3141 02:26:44,680 --> 02:26:47,320 Speaker 1: have the one play that gets made to get you over. 3142 02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:50,280 Speaker 1: They have the same number on the over under for 3143 02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:54,680 Speaker 1: wins as the Bears look out, vastly different than narratives 3144 02:26:54,680 --> 02:26:56,960 Speaker 1: are about those two teams. They're both at eight and 3145 02:26:57,000 --> 02:26:57,760 Speaker 1: a half wins. 3146 02:27:00,040 --> 02:27:04,040 Speaker 4: Wow. I mean, I will say this, it is a 3147 02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:07,720 Speaker 4: tricky thing to figure out who's going to win and 3148 02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:10,120 Speaker 4: how they're going to win or whatever. The other thing 3149 02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:14,520 Speaker 4: when it comes to it is like there's this thing. 3150 02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,000 Speaker 5: You've probably been a Bears fan, you will call it 3151 02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:21,440 Speaker 5: probably the Justin Fields fascination, because you will probably feel 3152 02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:24,240 Speaker 5: like a lot of people on the outside haven't kind 3153 02:27:24,280 --> 02:27:27,440 Speaker 5: of lifted up the hood and really watched Justin Fields 3154 02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:30,440 Speaker 5: enough to really have a strong opinion. Where Bears fans 3155 02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:32,800 Speaker 5: see it every week so they can talk about whatever 3156 02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:36,240 Speaker 5: it is that they say it are his flaws, late 3157 02:27:36,280 --> 02:27:39,920 Speaker 5: with the progressions, more of a runner than a thrower. 3158 02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:40,959 Speaker 4: YadA, YadA, YadA. 3159 02:27:41,120 --> 02:27:44,039 Speaker 5: Where on the outside everyone is like, hey, this should 3160 02:27:44,080 --> 02:27:46,400 Speaker 5: be an easy conversation. You got the young quarterback who's 3161 02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:49,000 Speaker 5: more dynamic. Look at he rushed for a thousand yards. 3162 02:27:49,080 --> 02:27:53,120 Speaker 5: Why not put him in over Russell Wilson. That conversation 3163 02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:56,880 Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh has moved from the windy city to the 3164 02:27:56,879 --> 02:28:01,400 Speaker 5: still city because the clock is ticking on Russell Wilson. 3165 02:28:01,640 --> 02:28:05,360 Speaker 5: Everyone wants to see Justin Fields so they can either 3166 02:28:05,879 --> 02:28:09,680 Speaker 5: confirm or deny whatever he is as a player. 3167 02:28:10,040 --> 02:28:13,920 Speaker 1: Well figuring change of venue maybe launches, because let's face it, 3168 02:28:13,959 --> 02:28:17,920 Speaker 1: the Bears haven't done things right offensively for as long 3169 02:28:17,920 --> 02:28:21,840 Speaker 1: as I've been alive, with the exception of the offense 3170 02:28:21,920 --> 02:28:24,960 Speaker 1: that was second in the league predicated on the strength 3171 02:28:24,959 --> 02:28:27,200 Speaker 1: of the defense. Going back to that Super Bowl year, 3172 02:28:27,560 --> 02:28:30,560 Speaker 1: and then the other Super Bowl appearance where most most 3173 02:28:30,640 --> 02:28:33,400 Speaker 1: notably Devin Hester is now a Hall of Famer off 3174 02:28:33,400 --> 02:28:36,160 Speaker 1: the Cup return as part of it. That Super Bowl 3175 02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:39,680 Speaker 1: will always be known as Prince playing Purple Rain in 3176 02:28:39,760 --> 02:28:43,320 Speaker 1: the rain because Bayton Manning and the Colts weren't exactly 3177 02:28:43,400 --> 02:28:46,800 Speaker 1: world beating that day either, and Rex Grossman was the 3178 02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:50,640 Speaker 1: bear starter. So yeah, there's been a lot of you know, 3179 02:28:50,959 --> 02:28:53,400 Speaker 1: hope and false start. I got by Jay Cutler, Shirsey 3180 02:28:54,440 --> 02:28:58,480 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar arm, but you know, Gambler and 3181 02:28:59,560 --> 02:29:03,600 Speaker 1: whatever countenance was, ta take it as you will. Some 3182 02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:07,039 Speaker 1: fall starts there. Wide receivers. Historically there was the running 3183 02:29:07,120 --> 02:29:09,600 Speaker 1: joke of if it's where wide receivers go to die 3184 02:29:10,959 --> 02:29:14,119 Speaker 1: and just go on down the line. So justin Field's 3185 02:29:14,120 --> 02:29:16,959 Speaker 1: making a couple of big electric plays, like all right, 3186 02:29:17,240 --> 02:29:19,360 Speaker 1: can you coach out all of those things that you 3187 02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:25,160 Speaker 1: outlined late progression one read holding the ball out to 3188 02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:29,480 Speaker 1: say here take it oftentime Ball security such an issue 3189 02:29:29,560 --> 02:29:31,920 Speaker 1: because you saw that even in the preseason with Pittsburgh, 3190 02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:34,480 Speaker 1: a couple of sizzle plays, a couple of big plays, 3191 02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:36,360 Speaker 1: and then it's like, all right, he had the ball 3192 02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:39,760 Speaker 1: knocked out of his hand. Twice and very limited action. 3193 02:29:40,680 --> 02:29:43,720 Speaker 1: So you know from Mike Tomlin, you know when the 3194 02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:47,280 Speaker 1: margins raise their thin because you're just praying that your 3195 02:29:47,320 --> 02:29:50,440 Speaker 1: offense can get to twenty points a game. Turnovers can't 3196 02:29:50,480 --> 02:29:53,080 Speaker 1: be part of that equation, and it's magnified on a 3197 02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:56,840 Speaker 1: squad like that because you're not blowing anybody out. I mean, 3198 02:29:57,000 --> 02:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's not beating anybody thirty eight to you know, like 3199 02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:03,440 Speaker 1: there might be one game this year where that happens, 3200 02:30:03,440 --> 02:30:07,760 Speaker 1: where the defense gets over and it becomes unglued. Otherwise, 3201 02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:11,520 Speaker 1: like the NFL as a whole, is a one possession 3202 02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:15,120 Speaker 1: margin to victory for the Steelers. It's a field goal 3203 02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:16,400 Speaker 1: game most weeks. 3204 02:30:17,400 --> 02:30:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, in most weeks. 3205 02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:22,360 Speaker 5: And so that is why I always believe Russell Wilson 3206 02:30:22,360 --> 02:30:24,720 Speaker 5: would be the starter, right, because what you're banking on 3207 02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:28,040 Speaker 5: is throughout his career, Russell Wilson has taken supreme care 3208 02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:28,680 Speaker 5: of the football. 3209 02:30:29,080 --> 02:30:31,880 Speaker 4: Right. He doesn't turn it over. He gives your chance 3210 02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:32,320 Speaker 4: to win in. 3211 02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:35,120 Speaker 5: The fourth quarter because he does reduce the amount of 3212 02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:38,880 Speaker 5: mistakes that the offense has. He'll take sacks, but normally 3213 02:30:38,879 --> 02:30:42,880 Speaker 5: those sacks don't translate into turnovers. Justin fields, takes sacks 3214 02:30:42,879 --> 02:30:45,439 Speaker 5: and fumbles the ball. And so that's why that conversation 3215 02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:47,680 Speaker 5: that Arthur Smith and Mike Tomlin will have throughout the 3216 02:30:47,760 --> 02:30:50,800 Speaker 5: year will be about ball security, ball protection, how. 3217 02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:53,880 Speaker 4: They win games, or not how they win games, but 3218 02:30:54,160 --> 02:30:57,000 Speaker 4: how do how do they avoid losing games? 3219 02:30:57,360 --> 02:30:58,840 Speaker 5: Which is a thing because when you talk about a 3220 02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:01,760 Speaker 5: league that is typically he decided about eight points of fewer, 3221 02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:03,959 Speaker 5: and the still is in particular being a team that 3222 02:31:04,040 --> 02:31:05,600 Speaker 5: plays a bunch of field goal games. 3223 02:31:05,959 --> 02:31:07,400 Speaker 4: It comes down to ball security. 3224 02:31:07,440 --> 02:31:12,120 Speaker 5: It comes about negative play avoidance more so than play making. 3225 02:31:12,959 --> 02:31:15,120 Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks. Where you find him 3226 02:31:15,160 --> 02:31:17,560 Speaker 1: in the twitterverse. Find me over at Swollen Dome. We're 3227 02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:21,080 Speaker 1: live here in the tiraq dot com Fox Sports Radio Studios. 3228 02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Now it's time to turn our attention over to a 3229 02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:26,280 Speaker 1: well dressed man ready for a big day of action. 3230 02:31:26,360 --> 02:31:28,560 Speaker 1: It's Isaac Lowercron. 3231 02:31:28,480 --> 02:31:31,680 Speaker 9: And I hate to disappoint the sharps in Vegas, but 3232 02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:34,760 Speaker 9: I had salsa as part of my breakfast this morning 3233 02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:38,400 Speaker 9: and somehow did not spill it on my Look. 3234 02:31:38,240 --> 02:31:40,200 Speaker 1: At you, sir, Do you have a tied pen in 3235 02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:40,640 Speaker 1: your bag? 3236 02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:46,200 Speaker 9: I have actually been rather cavalier. I'm not even carrying 3237 02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:48,160 Speaker 9: one in my back, but that's out that Bucky. 3238 02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give him travel tips when he's got 3239 02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:50,640 Speaker 1: to suit up. 3240 02:31:50,760 --> 02:31:54,080 Speaker 9: That's actually a very very wise idea given my track 3241 02:31:54,160 --> 02:31:57,879 Speaker 9: record of clumsiness. Well as we begin, we begin in 3242 02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:01,520 Speaker 9: the NFL, and a story that is scary but certainly 3243 02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:04,959 Speaker 9: could have been far, far worse, as on Saturday, San Francisco, 3244 02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:08,959 Speaker 9: forty nine Ers rookie receiver Ricky Pearsall was shot in 3245 02:32:09,040 --> 02:32:12,560 Speaker 9: the chest during an attempted robbery in downtown San Francisco. 3246 02:32:12,680 --> 02:32:17,039 Speaker 9: He is in serious but stable condition. The suspect, a 3247 02:32:17,080 --> 02:32:21,120 Speaker 9: seventeen year old male, was arrested. In college football on 3248 02:32:21,160 --> 02:32:23,760 Speaker 9: Saturday night, seventh ranked Notre Dame what a number twenty 3249 02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:26,800 Speaker 9: Texas A and M twenty three to thirteen Notre Dames. 3250 02:32:26,920 --> 02:32:29,440 Speaker 9: Jeremiah Love the go I had twenty one yard touchdown 3251 02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:32,360 Speaker 9: run with one fifty four to play third ranked Oregon 3252 02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:35,039 Speaker 9: over Idaho twenty four to fourteen. This was a three 3253 02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:37,600 Speaker 9: point game, with five point thirty seven to play. Fifth 3254 02:32:37,680 --> 02:32:41,000 Speaker 9: ranked Alabama over Western Kentucky sixty three to nothing. In 3255 02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:45,120 Speaker 9: Caylin de Boer's debut, number six Ole miss over the 3256 02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:50,680 Speaker 9: Furman Andyes seven. Excuse me, the Furman Paladins, I mispronounced 3257 02:32:50,720 --> 02:32:54,240 Speaker 9: their nickname seventy six to nothing. Ole Miss quarterback Jackson 3258 02:32:54,320 --> 02:32:57,199 Speaker 9: Dart twenty two of twenty seven for four eighteen five 3259 02:32:57,280 --> 02:33:01,119 Speaker 9: touchdown passes in the first half alone. Ninth rank Michigan 3260 02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:03,920 Speaker 9: defeated Fresno State thirty to ten in what was a 3261 02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:06,720 Speaker 9: six point game with five forty four to play. And 3262 02:33:06,760 --> 02:33:09,720 Speaker 9: in number twenty one Arizona's sixty one to thirty nine 3263 02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:14,240 Speaker 9: win over New Mexico, Arizona receiver Teteroa McMillan caught ten 3264 02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:18,480 Speaker 9: passes for three hundred and four yards and four touchdowns. 3265 02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:24,480 Speaker 3: Finally, Mike and Bucky. One of the best college football social. 3266 02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:28,840 Speaker 9: Media accounts out there is called message board Geniuses, where 3267 02:33:28,879 --> 02:33:33,720 Speaker 9: they post screenshots of things that college football fans post 3268 02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:36,280 Speaker 9: on their respective message boards. And as you guys know, 3269 02:33:36,920 --> 02:33:42,040 Speaker 9: yesterday Florida lost to nineteenth rank Miami forty one to seventeen. 3270 02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:46,519 Speaker 9: So a short time ago someone posted on the Florida 3271 02:33:46,560 --> 02:33:50,400 Speaker 9: message board and I quote woke up in a cold 3272 02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:53,959 Speaker 9: sweat this morning, walked my dogs for a mile before 3273 02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:57,160 Speaker 9: the sun was up, and couldn't stop thinking about how 3274 02:33:57,440 --> 02:34:00,840 Speaker 9: bleeped we are firing a coach now is tricky. 3275 02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:03,720 Speaker 3: It's going to be expensive, but it has to be done. 3276 02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:08,080 Speaker 9: Urban has no buyout and can be brought in and 3277 02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:11,400 Speaker 9: hit the trail right away while an interim head coach 3278 02:34:11,800 --> 02:34:15,880 Speaker 9: finishes out the season unquote. So that is sampling of 3279 02:34:15,959 --> 02:34:20,600 Speaker 9: the college football message board postings on the day after 3280 02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:22,840 Speaker 9: the first full Saturday of the season. 3281 02:34:22,879 --> 02:34:26,360 Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, Oh that's fantastic stuff. Follow Ilo 3282 02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:29,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Isaac loewen Kron as he gets ready 3283 02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:33,640 Speaker 1: for another long, arduous season Charger football. He's got the 3284 02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:36,800 Speaker 1: Angel City FC that he does the play by playoff 3285 02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:41,879 Speaker 1: and again Bucky wearing the crisp white dress shirt for 3286 02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:46,240 Speaker 1: now for now looks clean. But you know, I'm. 3287 02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:47,360 Speaker 4: Coffee more impressed. 3288 02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:49,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm more impressed by the fact that he had 3289 02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:51,000 Speaker 5: sausa before. 3290 02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:52,200 Speaker 4: Me. 3291 02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:55,760 Speaker 5: My guys, if we haven't chips and sausa this early 3292 02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:57,119 Speaker 5: in the morning, good guys. 3293 02:34:56,879 --> 02:34:59,279 Speaker 1: Well, maybe he went and got himself some breakfast burritos. 3294 02:34:59,320 --> 02:35:03,440 Speaker 1: He does like the arches. He likes the arches. He's 3295 02:35:03,480 --> 02:35:04,560 Speaker 1: a man of routine. 3296 02:35:04,680 --> 02:35:06,720 Speaker 9: It was on my scrambled eggs and hash browns, though 3297 02:35:06,800 --> 02:35:10,080 Speaker 9: tortilla chips this early in the morning on the Pacific coast. 3298 02:35:10,480 --> 02:35:12,080 Speaker 1: He's just pregame and Mockie. 3299 02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:15,520 Speaker 5: I was like seven o'clock, we got chips and saucer 3300 02:35:15,560 --> 02:35:18,520 Speaker 5: before seven mile. But now it makes sense. You talk 3301 02:35:18,560 --> 02:35:21,039 Speaker 5: about the burrito and the eggs, a little pico de 3302 02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:22,560 Speaker 5: gayo to get it going. 3303 02:35:22,640 --> 02:35:23,439 Speaker 4: Okay. 3304 02:35:23,200 --> 02:35:25,120 Speaker 1: But even if not, even if he was living the 3305 02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:27,360 Speaker 1: other way, I mean, how do you. I mean, you're 3306 02:35:27,360 --> 02:35:31,080 Speaker 1: living your best life. Get some black meat, some flight 3307 02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:34,039 Speaker 1: sneak up on a grill and away we go. That's it. 3308 02:35:34,120 --> 02:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm finding a little habachi to start setting up shop 3309 02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:42,040 Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports Radio courtyard long and they'll they'll 3310 02:35:42,160 --> 02:35:44,120 Speaker 1: escort me out once and for all. It would be 3311 02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:46,560 Speaker 1: my guest, he's Bucky Brooks. I buy Carmen here. Fox 3312 02:35:46,600 --> 02:35:49,760 Speaker 1: Sports Radio coming up next, turn our attention back into 3313 02:35:49,879 --> 02:35:54,400 Speaker 1: the NFL Week one is here? Uh and one or 3314 02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:58,000 Speaker 1: two last previews and big picture thoughts before we begin 3315 02:35:58,040 --> 02:36:00,000 Speaker 1: in Ernest on Thursday. We'll do it next year on Fox. 3316 02:36:01,640 --> 02:36:06,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday Remember 3317 02:36:06,920 --> 02:36:09,760 Speaker 1: coming up about ten minutes from now. Countdown to kickoff, 3318 02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:15,080 Speaker 1: presented by Bett MGM. Get all your insights as Brian, 3319 02:36:15,200 --> 02:36:19,560 Speaker 1: Jeff and Bill get together for another campaign. Fantastic stuff 3320 02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:23,760 Speaker 1: began last week and now or two weeks ago, two 3321 02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:26,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago already? Look how fast this all goes? Is 3322 02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:30,560 Speaker 1: that now you roll into the NFL season in earnest 3323 02:36:30,600 --> 02:36:33,880 Speaker 1: and one big thing still lingering out there. Bucky is 3324 02:36:34,040 --> 02:36:38,519 Speaker 1: contract talk. I know it's my numbing to some fascinating 3325 02:36:38,560 --> 02:36:42,840 Speaker 1: to me ceedee Lamb gets his money. Brandon Ayuk, long 3326 02:36:42,959 --> 02:36:46,279 Speaker 1: rumored to be traded to any one of twelve sixteams 3327 02:36:46,360 --> 02:36:49,520 Speaker 1: before it was all said and done, finally gets paid 3328 02:36:49,840 --> 02:36:53,160 Speaker 1: and back with San Francisco. But San Francisco still has 3329 02:36:53,280 --> 02:36:56,800 Speaker 1: their issue with Trent Williams, three years left on his deal, 3330 02:36:56,959 --> 02:37:00,160 Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars still to be paid out, but 3331 02:37:00,360 --> 02:37:02,879 Speaker 1: hasn't been around. And then we've got the whole thing 3332 02:37:02,879 --> 02:37:06,640 Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott and the Cowboys that'll drag into the season. 3333 02:37:07,040 --> 02:37:10,480 Speaker 1: Is it gonna take Jason Smith's Jets getting over on 3334 02:37:10,520 --> 02:37:12,760 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers to get Trent Williams paid and 3335 02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:13,320 Speaker 1: into camp? 3336 02:37:14,400 --> 02:37:17,200 Speaker 5: Maybe because if I had to prioritize him, I would 3337 02:37:17,240 --> 02:37:19,280 Speaker 5: have flipped it. Trim Williams would have been the number 3338 02:37:19,320 --> 02:37:21,800 Speaker 5: one thing on the to do list, more so than 3339 02:37:21,800 --> 02:37:24,240 Speaker 5: Brandon Ayuk to me, Brandon Ayuk is more of a 3340 02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:28,840 Speaker 5: luxury item. Trim Williams is an essential, is an essential 3341 02:37:28,959 --> 02:37:32,240 Speaker 5: piece to the championship puzzle. Without him, it doesn't work, 3342 02:37:32,440 --> 02:37:35,480 Speaker 5: like he's the jinger piece. That offensive line does not 3343 02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:39,000 Speaker 5: work without Trent Williams available. And I know he's thirty 3344 02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:41,720 Speaker 5: six years old. I know he wants to get paid 3345 02:37:41,760 --> 02:37:43,560 Speaker 5: and has years left on the deal. But when you 3346 02:37:43,600 --> 02:37:47,039 Speaker 5: look at the offensive tackle market, he is the premier 3347 02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:49,880 Speaker 5: offensive tackle in the league. He shouldn't have to settle 3348 02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:53,279 Speaker 5: for money that is well below what the top guys 3349 02:37:53,400 --> 02:37:55,160 Speaker 5: or who the market needs to be the top guys 3350 02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:57,240 Speaker 5: are getting. They should have take care of him. 3351 02:37:57,480 --> 02:37:58,359 Speaker 4: They had time. 3352 02:37:58,160 --> 02:38:01,600 Speaker 5: Really under Brandon Ayuck thing, but looks played is down. 3353 02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:02,320 Speaker 4: You played him. 3354 02:38:02,560 --> 02:38:04,920 Speaker 5: Now you know that Deebo Samuel is probably not going 3355 02:38:04,959 --> 02:38:06,640 Speaker 5: to be on the team next year. They got to 3356 02:38:06,640 --> 02:38:08,720 Speaker 5: figure out how to get it going. The thing that's 3357 02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:11,480 Speaker 5: troubling is not through any fault of his own, but 3358 02:38:11,560 --> 02:38:14,520 Speaker 5: Ricky Piersaw like the thing that took place in Union 3359 02:38:14,520 --> 02:38:17,480 Speaker 5: Square where he was raw an attempt to robbery, he 3360 02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:20,360 Speaker 5: gets shot. How long is he's out? The reason they 3361 02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:23,160 Speaker 5: drafted Ricky Piersow is because they felt like they couldn't 3362 02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:26,360 Speaker 5: win enough against Man coverage. If he's not available, you 3363 02:38:26,440 --> 02:38:28,360 Speaker 5: got the same problems that showed up in the Super 3364 02:38:28,400 --> 02:38:30,240 Speaker 5: Bowl and the same problems that showed up when they 3365 02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:32,240 Speaker 5: played Cleveland. Some of these other teams that are willing 3366 02:38:32,280 --> 02:38:35,880 Speaker 5: to play Man demanded game. A lot of problems ahead 3367 02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:38,200 Speaker 5: for the San Francisco forty nine is because they're suffering 3368 02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:41,240 Speaker 5: from the Super Bowl hango with a bunch of different 3369 02:38:41,280 --> 02:38:44,120 Speaker 5: things that's kind of clouding and attracting their focus. 3370 02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:46,400 Speaker 1: It does seem like they're I have to juggle quite 3371 02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:49,920 Speaker 1: a few things from the contract chatter, whatever went on, 3372 02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:53,359 Speaker 1: got Ayuke done? I agree with you in Trent Williams. 3373 02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:56,039 Speaker 1: And it's that tough decision point of saying, well, the 3374 02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:58,280 Speaker 1: guy's got multiple years left on the deal and he 3375 02:38:58,320 --> 02:39:02,640 Speaker 1: wants a new one. It's a different era. You can't 3376 02:39:02,680 --> 02:39:05,160 Speaker 1: just say, hey, you got to play on it, beat 3377 02:39:05,200 --> 02:39:09,560 Speaker 1: it right. The famous Scottie Pippen he wanted the long 3378 02:39:09,640 --> 02:39:12,280 Speaker 1: term deal and then realized what a bad move that 3379 02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:14,840 Speaker 1: was with the Bulls all those years ago. Man, that's 3380 02:39:15,040 --> 02:39:18,040 Speaker 1: thirty five years in the rear view mirror. At this point, 3381 02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:21,520 Speaker 1: like today, it's all right where do I stand because 3382 02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:25,080 Speaker 1: it's not. Look, the money is obviously huge, particularly when 3383 02:39:25,080 --> 02:39:27,320 Speaker 1: we talk about the guarantees Bucky, but a lot of 3384 02:39:27,360 --> 02:39:30,560 Speaker 1: it is the respect and where you get in those 3385 02:39:30,680 --> 02:39:34,360 Speaker 1: rankings as well, right commensureate with what your level is. 3386 02:39:34,840 --> 02:39:38,960 Speaker 1: And he shows no sign of jumping off the cliff 3387 02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:41,920 Speaker 1: in terms of his play. Just shit, and that line 3388 02:39:42,280 --> 02:39:44,279 Speaker 1: is rated average without. 3389 02:39:44,080 --> 02:39:47,600 Speaker 5: Him, They are rated average without him. They don't have 3390 02:39:47,680 --> 02:39:49,760 Speaker 5: the same kind of up that you want to see 3391 02:39:49,760 --> 02:39:51,720 Speaker 5: from the forty nine. Is their inability to run the 3392 02:39:51,760 --> 02:39:54,440 Speaker 5: ball would be problematic if Trent Williams isn't there. Not 3393 02:39:54,560 --> 02:39:56,360 Speaker 5: to mention the protection, you got a quarterback that you're 3394 02:39:56,360 --> 02:39:58,120 Speaker 5: gonna have to pay fifty five million plus soon and 3395 02:39:58,200 --> 02:39:58,760 Speaker 5: brought pretty. 3396 02:39:59,000 --> 02:40:00,280 Speaker 4: You need your left tackle in the. 3397 02:40:00,200 --> 02:40:02,720 Speaker 1: Building at Bucky Brooks where you find him on Twitter. 3398 02:40:02,720 --> 02:40:05,880 Speaker 1: We're just getting started. They're the co super Bowl favorite 3399 02:40:05,920 --> 02:40:08,240 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. We'll see how that plays out. Week 3400 02:40:08,320 --> 02:40:11,440 Speaker 1: one begins countdown to kick offf is next on Fox