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Speaker 1: Versatility is important, especially for this defensive staff. Welcome Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, Zach Erstman joins me. The rookies arrive

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Speaker 1: later this week. They'll be on the field Friday, and

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Speaker 1: we know where Darius Robinson will line up, at least initially.

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Speaker 1: And we'll hear from the Cardinals first round draft pick

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Boda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again

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Speaker 1: Well, we have an answer to one of the bigger

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Speaker 1: questions fans have been asking for several days now, May fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: Next Wednesday, the NFL schedule will be released five pm,

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Speaker 3: It's exciting time.

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Speaker 1: It is because we've known the who, the where, We

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Speaker 4: This is if there's anything draft season taught us, it's

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Speaker 1: on that now a little tongue in cheek, that's that's

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Speaker 1: But right now MHJ says eighteen is the number. Before

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Speaker 4: Because of that, they could see him more on the

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Speaker 4: There were some funky formations that that Nick Rolis ran

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Speaker 4: different formations. Darius Robinson will mostly have his hand in

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Speaker 1: Bottom line, you were not wrong in your life.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't wrong, which made me so happy. It made

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Speaker 4: I was very curious. We talked so much about his versatility.

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Speaker 4: that's why I needed an answer. It wasn't aware, do

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's just something that it's going to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great, It was fun. I was laughing

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Speaker 6: You know, obviously he's a great player, so you know,

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Speaker 6: But uh, he's a great guy and excited a really

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Speaker 7: You know, we have a sane players know players, right, Yes?

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Speaker 6: Now he's legit, Like you think of college football he

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Speaker 6: And now's my teammates, so I get to tell first

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Speaker 5: But he's a great player and excited to get to

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Speaker 1: Your journey to this point five years at Missouri. But

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 6: And then our guys were with two degrees, so that's

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Speaker 7: Man, what kind of workload was that a full time

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Speaker 6: Yeah, most definitely. I'll just really try to really enjoy college.

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Speaker 6: But also I'm here, so I might as well go

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Speaker 6: I just want to be well around it. And those

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Speaker 7: Me, Wow, I tell you, I mean between that the

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Speaker 7: reiterate all the preparation you do on a weekly basis

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Speaker 5: Yeah, most definitely.

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Speaker 7: So there's a lot that has been said about every

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Speaker 6: Well, really, my mind said something to prove to the

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Speaker 1: But what did it mean to you that week? You

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Speaker 6: That mean for him and everything? Because that's so I

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Speaker 5: Time I was.

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Speaker 6: I'll say a show on the best defensive line in

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Speaker 7: You know, Darius Robinson is our guest Cardinals number twenty

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Speaker 1: So you went to the Senior Bowl with.

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Speaker 7: The idea of competing. Oh yeah, And you know what,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So, actually I didn't have a thirty visit.

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Speaker 5: You know. But now this is a great, great visit.

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Speaker 1: We heard a lot from both Manti Austin Ford and

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Speaker 1: line up on that defensive line, more comfortable, more explosive,

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Speaker 1: more effective.

442
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Speaker 6: I probably say no, not necessarily. Like right now, I'm

443
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Speaker 6: just really focused on my technique and where as long

444
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 6: as my technique is sharp, no matter what alignment, I'll

445
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Speaker 6: be at and just be maybe another step or the

446
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Speaker 6: time and be a little bit faster. So just really

447
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Speaker 6: a technician and just holding on my craft. But I'm

448
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Speaker 6: excited to see what position I play here.

449
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Speaker 7: Your coach was asked about your game and he said

450
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Speaker 7: the first thing that jumped off the tape, and this

451
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Speaker 7: is his words, violent, violent, violent. How do you define

452
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 7: violence in the game of football?

453
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Speaker 6: Hands inside, control the man in front of you, and

454
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Speaker 6: you just gotta have them want to. I think a

455
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Speaker 6: lot of guys they skate by by being the bigger

456
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Speaker 6: guy or athletic guy, But do you really want to

457
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Speaker 6: do this? And I feel like for me, I've pushed

458
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Speaker 6: myself to the point where this is it, Like this

459
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 6: is all I want and I'm obsessed with it and

460
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Speaker 6: find a ways to get better and really impose my

461
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Speaker 6: will and just make plays and help us win games.

462
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Speaker 1: Darius It's been a pleasure in just these few minutes

463
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Speaker 1: to get to know you. Looking forward to knowing what

464
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Speaker 1: you're able to do, both on and off the field,

465
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Speaker 1: and from all of us, welcome to the Arizona Cardinals.

466
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

467
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Speaker 1: Really enjoyed that conversation with Darius after he was officially

468
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Speaker 1: introduced the day after he was selected with a twenty

469
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Speaker 1: seventh overall pick, and burd Gang, I hope you get

470
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: to know the player and the person because what you

471
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: heard there towards the end, Zach, as far as the

472
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Speaker 1: playing with technique, playing with violence quote control of the

473
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Speaker 1: man in front of you. And then something that I

474
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Speaker 1: think we've heard from a number of players, and that

475
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Speaker 1: is what this front office, what this coaching staff wants

476
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Speaker 1: to know about the player before they bring them in

477
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: this building. Do you love this game? Is there a

478
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: passion for the game of football? And there is not

479
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: just passion for Darius Robinson. There's an obsession with this game.

480
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Speaker 1: He said it at his introductory press conference. He just

481
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Speaker 1: said it there in our conversation. So this is someone

482
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Speaker 1: that is going to be football I wouldn't say twenty

483
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Speaker 1: four to seven, but he is going to put in

484
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Speaker 1: the work and make him available immediately week one.

485
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Speaker 4: In order to be a legend in this game, you

486
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: have to eat, sleep, and breathe it, and Darius Robinson

487
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: is the perfect example of what that looks like. Coming

488
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Speaker 4: out of college and into the NFL. Him and Marvin

489
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: Harrison junior. You truly cannot find two football guys more

490
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 4: than those two, and the Cardinals are fortunate enough to

491
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Speaker 4: have him come into the facility. The one thing I'll

492
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Speaker 4: say though, I didn't even know that positive culture and

493
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Speaker 4: leadership was a major that you could possibly have, but

494
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Speaker 4: Darius Robinson, once again is the perfect example. I'm not

495
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Speaker 4: sure what those type of classes are like back in

496
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Speaker 4: Missouri to ask Danny about that, because I'm not sure

497
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Speaker 4: what you could be taking in a class, but you

498
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: could definitely see that whatever was taught by his professors

499
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: is being put to is being put to action and

500
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Speaker 4: put to fruition right there in that interview.

501
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Speaker 1: Yeah, two degrees. I got one, and he did it

502
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Speaker 1: not only within the five years, but a full football schedule,

503
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Speaker 1: and that that's I mean, that's a full time job

504
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Speaker 1: in and of himself.

505
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Speaker 4: I just love how he was like, I'm here, so

506
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Speaker 4: I might as well. Just do it, Like I wish

507
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 4: I had that philosophy like back in school, Like I'm

508
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 4: just I'm here, so might as well just study?

509
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Speaker 1: You know, I got nothing else to do.

510
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Speaker 3: I'll just go to class. Well why not Monday afternoon

511
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: it's raining outside? Like what am I gonna do?

512
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Speaker 5: Just say?

513
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Speaker 4: Here not, I'll go to class. I might have had

514
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Speaker 4: a different approach at times, but once again, correct, just

515
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: like we said last time, but we're all here exactly

516
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: were we all reached the same destination. But what a

517
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Speaker 4: guy like, truly like, that's somebody that I think is

518
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Speaker 4: gonna immerse himself into the community as a whole. He

519
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 4: has his Helping Hands Foundation where he literally you nil

520
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: money to help his foundation to help underprivileged people and

521
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: the Columbia and around the other areas at Missouri. That's

522
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Speaker 4: somebody that's gonna come in and they're gonna eat, sleep

523
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Speaker 4: and breathe ball. But they're also going to recognize that

524
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: they have a platform and that stuff that you can't

525
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: teach it has to be inherently with you.

526
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Speaker 3: And he has that.

527
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Speaker 1: Good call on that as far as the acknowledgment, as

528
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Speaker 1: far as what he does, because it is not always

529
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Speaker 1: football but he's using football to help others. Yeah, and

530
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Speaker 1: that's something that I think, Well, he'll get his feet

531
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Speaker 1: wet this weekend then kind of figure out those next steps.

532
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Speaker 1: But that is something that I could see a lot

533
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Speaker 1: of these players that the Cardinals drafted that are brand new,

534
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Speaker 1: like Okay, you know, let me get to know the

535
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Speaker 1: community a little bit and how I can help better

536
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Speaker 1: this place exactly.

537
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Speaker 4: You want to immerse yourself. You can't just right away

538
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Speaker 4: jump in in the sense of like we're throwing an

539
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 4: event tomorrow, who's going to be around. You want to

540
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Speaker 4: truly get to know the people, and you want to

541
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Speaker 4: get to know the streets. You want to get to

542
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Speaker 4: know the schools, the other people around.

543
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Speaker 3: The valley.

544
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Speaker 4: Is about what the people make it to be. You know,

545
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Speaker 4: it's the people that bring it all together. You know,

546
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: there's so many different parts of me, especially moving out

547
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Speaker 4: here where you have the Scottsdale, the Channelers, the Mesas,

548
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: and they all come together and they make up one valley.

549
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: And Darius Robinson has the opportunity to immerse himself into

550
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: that and truly make an impact in more ways than

551
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Speaker 4: just on the football field.

552
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Speaker 1: A couple of other notes here and that is again

553
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Speaker 1: rookie minni camp coming up this weekend, and we're learning

554
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Speaker 1: because I joked about it with Paul on Monday that

555
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Speaker 1: perhaps maybe you know here or I would be one

556
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Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks out there on the field, because right

557
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: at that point on Monday, the team didn't have any

558
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Speaker 1: quarterback as far as a player is concerned. So you're

559
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Speaker 1: leaving it up to one of the.

560
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Speaker 3: Coaches out there.

561
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Speaker 1: But according to reports, former Maryland quarterback Talia tung of

562
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Speaker 1: the tongue of Iloa, there, it.

563
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Speaker 4: Is, there, it is, it's going, it's gonna be. It's

564
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Speaker 4: gonna add up Toungo Vyloa, Taliah Tunga Viiloa.

565
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Speaker 1: Yeah, see take two to accepted an invite to rookie

566
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Speaker 1: mini camp. So this will be his second straight weekend

567
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Speaker 1: working out for an opportunit unity to try to land

568
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Speaker 1: with an NFL team. Last weekend he's with the Seahawks.

569
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Speaker 1: This weekend, he'll be with the Cardinals and will be

570
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Speaker 1: the first quarterback in a Cardinals uniform, at least a

571
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Speaker 1: practice uniform to be throwing passes to Marvin Harrison Junior.

572
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Speaker 3: That's the story.

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Speaker 4: There's a trivia question here is who threw the first

574
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Speaker 4: pass to Marvin Harrison junior Kyler mart Clayton Tune doesn't

575
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Speaker 4: at Taliah tunguev I Loo big two big ten guys,

576
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Speaker 4: so they're familiar. They're familiar with one another, and obviously

577
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Speaker 4: Talia being the younger brother of Tua, so it's not

578
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Speaker 4: a bad quarterback to be throwing the rock to.

579
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Speaker 3: So we'll see. Uh, let there be a fourth QB

580
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Speaker 3: on the roster, question mark, who knows.

581
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Speaker 1: I do think there will be a fourth quarterback, just

582
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: because the number of pass catchers you have between wide receiver,

583
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: tight end and running back and trying to get everyone reps.

584
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Speaker 1: Typically teams do have four quarterbacks throughout the off season,

585
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Speaker 1: maybe bleeding into training camp a little bit. So yeah,

586
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Speaker 1: not saying it's going to be, but someone perhaps there

587
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: is an opportunity and we'll see if there's another quarterback

588
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: this weekend added to that mix as far as some competition,

589
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Speaker 1: but someone, I think someone will get signed, maybe not immediately,

590
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: but someone else will be signing that quarterback.

591
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: There is a chance that Clayton Tune could be out there.

592
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: The CBA, the bargaining agreement, it's the language is a

593
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: little vague, so it says each team has up to

594
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Speaker 4: five veterans that they're allowed to participate in the rookie

595
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: mini camp. Now, I don't expect for veterans to mean

596
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: like Buddha Baker being out there and teaching Rabbit the ropes.

597
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: But there's a chance with Clayton Tune being only one

598
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Speaker 4: year in the league that he might want to get

599
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 4: some extra work that they might feel a reason to

600
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Speaker 4: have him out there. But for right now, at least reportedly,

601
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Speaker 4: the one QB that we know likely will be out

602
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Speaker 4: there will be to Lea Tongue of Iloa, who I

603
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: will say his full name every single time just because

604
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Speaker 4: I'm so proud of the fact that could say tongue

605
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Speaker 4: of Iloa, just.

606
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Speaker 1: Because it rolls right off, right off the tongue. Okay,

607
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Speaker 1: So that is happening this weekend. There is an official

608
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Speaker 1: announcement as far as a post draft roster addition, and

609
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: that is the Cardinals signed Marcus Bailey, linebacker, to a

610
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Speaker 1: one year contract. Four year veteran has spent the past

611
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Speaker 1: four seasons with the Bengals. Played all seventeen games last season,

612
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Speaker 1: but mainly a special teams player. Twenty nine defensive snaps

613
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Speaker 1: last season. That was three percent of the total defensive snaps.

614
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Speaker 1: So someone who's coming in here. If you find a

615
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Speaker 1: role ie on Sunday special teams, then all of a sudden, okay,

616
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Speaker 1: maybe you're available defensively, whether that's inside or outside. He

617
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Speaker 1: is listed at six feet two thirty five, pretty much

618
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Speaker 1: the same size as a Dennis Gardek. He mainly played

619
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Speaker 1: inside at Cincinnati, though he's listed on many of these

620
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: websites as an outside linebacker, So we'll see where he

621
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Speaker 1: ends up. Working out someone there you go, name of

622
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: the or the word of the day, word of this

623
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Speaker 1: offseason really, or word of this front office and coaching staff,

624
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Speaker 1: but someone that again you're adding depth to the linebacker position,

625
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: and then it does show the importance that this coaching

626
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: staff in front office is putting on special teams, in

627
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: particular the kickoff rule, whether that's kickoff return or kickoff coverage.

628
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Speaker 4: One of those defensive snaps was at State Farm Stadium

629
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Speaker 4: last season against the Arizona Cardinals. The Cincinnati Bengals got

630
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Speaker 4: the best of the Cardinals in that game.

631
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Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, look, you look back.

632
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: At the stats and they're not necessarily going to flash

633
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: off the screen. But he did play in the Super Bowl,

634
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 4: and he played in the Super Bowl and the Cincinnati

635
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: Bengals fell to the Los Angeles Rams. But I mean

636
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: that is still experience right there. He had a handful

637
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: of tackles in that game. He kicked off the second

638
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: half with a tackle right off the kickoff, So he

639
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: has experience playing in the big time games. And truthfully,

640
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: you can't have enough players on your roster that have

641
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: played in those big time games and knows what it

642
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: takes to ultimately get to.

643
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Speaker 3: The mount Top.

644
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: Now, they were a score short of getting to hold

645
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: the Lombardi, but he still has some experience at least

646
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: getting there. Now when he comes over here, the kickoff

647
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: rule is going to open up so many doors and

648
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: close a lot of doors for a lot of different players,

649
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: especially when it comes to special teams roles. It's no

650
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: longer just running downfield trying to make a big time hit.

651
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: The tackle that he had in the Super Bowl off

652
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: the kickoff isn't gonna be a thing anymore. So it's

653
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 4: going to be a matter of who what room is

654
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: he going to be in? Once again, is he going

655
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: to be more on the inside. Is he gonna be

656
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Speaker 4: on the outside. I keep vouching for Rob Rodriguez' room

657
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: to add additions to it. So maybe Marcus Bailey joins

658
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Speaker 4: that room. Regardless though he will be heavily involved, likely

659
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Speaker 4: to be on special teams.

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Speaker 1: And remember, with this new kickoff role, it's not a

661
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Speaker 1: throwaway play anymore, where you basically say or just kick

662
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Speaker 1: it out of bound started at the twenty five yard line.

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Speaker 1: This is now a play. And if you have someone

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Speaker 1: back there like a DJ Dallas, or you have good

665
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Speaker 1: coverage units or return units, you can have an offense

666
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Speaker 1: start at the thirty five plus yard line, maybe even

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Speaker 1: the forty yard line. You're gonna see, I think, at

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Speaker 1: least initially, until teams kind of figure out how to

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Speaker 1: pin you within the thirty or twenty five yard line.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of offensive positions that begin

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Speaker 1: plus thirty five yard line, maybe even plus forty yard line,

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Speaker 1: and a coordinator like Drew Petsing is gonna be pumped

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Speaker 1: to have that happen to get right away into good

674
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Speaker 1: field position. Nick Rollis is gonna be hoping that they

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Speaker 1: pin him as deep as could be so that the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have the Cardinals defenses in good field position for

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Speaker 1: them and gives the opponents a disadvantage.

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Speaker 3: Which opponent and what day?

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Speaker 4: That'll still be TVD until May fifteenth, But yeah, this

680
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: rule it opens up a lot more plays as well.

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Speaker 4: It's exciting. It's no longer that bathroom break in the

682
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Speaker 4: beginning of the in the beginning of the quarter or

683
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Speaker 4: whatever it might be, right after a score. This will

684
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Speaker 4: be magic will be made in some of these plays,

685
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Speaker 4: and in the beginning it will probably be tough for

686
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Speaker 4: kickoff units to stop because it's gonna be very challenging

687
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Speaker 4: to figure out the proper angles how they necessarily want

688
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Speaker 4: to do it. Preseason will be very fascinating to see

689
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Speaker 4: ultimately how it looks, and for the trained eye, it's

690
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Speaker 4: gonna be very challenged to just watch and should just

691
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Speaker 4: see such a different formation because this is going to

692
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Speaker 4: be unlike anything we've truly ever seen before in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The addition Bailey, by the way, leaves one open roster spot.

694
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Speaker 1: That's because Bernhard's Psychowitz is still on an international exemption,

695
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Speaker 1: so you have the one open spot depending on someone

696
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: impressing you this weekend at rookie mini camp on a

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Speaker 1: tryout basis or in the case of wide receiver Zay Jones,

698
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Speaker 1: who reportedly visited the Cardinals on Tuesday, meeting with the

699
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Speaker 1: Cowboys on Wednesday, previously met with the Titans, released by

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars before the draft. But talk about the wide

701
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Speaker 1: receiver position, another tall wide receiver. You just drafted a

702
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Speaker 1: pair of wide receivers, and you drafted a starting number

703
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Speaker 1: one in Marvin Harrison Junior. But depth in that room

704
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Speaker 1: is another veteran needed next to a Chris Moore and

705
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Speaker 1: a Zach Paskeal curious on the visit and then probably

706
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Speaker 1: more curious if that signing becomes official and then you

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Speaker 1: kind of figure out, all right, where do you fit

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Speaker 1: him in amongst your top three or four going into

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Speaker 1: this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because Boyd from Cincinnati signed with the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans, and that came right off of the visit

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Speaker 4: with Jay Jones down in Tennessee. So because of that,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jay Jones could be traveling around trying to

714
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Speaker 4: find a spot that really works for him. But because

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Speaker 4: the market to try to bring Zay Jones is is

716
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Speaker 4: active at the moment, it's also gonna force other teams

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Speaker 4: to be active in case they don't want to miss

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Speaker 4: a potential player like Boyd Tennessee signing him over there.

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Speaker 4: How he could fit into this room. I think with

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Speaker 4: how young it is, Chris Moore is still coming into

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Speaker 4: a completely new situation over here. So even though he

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Speaker 4: is a veteran, he is not a veteran in the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals system. Neither would Jay Jones be. But I think

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Speaker 4: having more than one veteran in that room could definitely

725
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Speaker 4: be helpful, and God forbid a case of someone's shoe

726
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Speaker 4: falls off. As Nick Rolis likes to say, you do

727
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Speaker 4: need players that are gonna be able to step up

728
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Speaker 4: and step in, and you do add his Zay Jones

729
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Speaker 4: to the mix. He could potentially play in the slot,

730
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Speaker 4: you could potentially play on the outside, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 4: You at least have options. And that was something that

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Speaker 4: when Michael Wilson went out and Hollywood Brown wasn't fully

733
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Speaker 4: playing to his potential due to a lingering injury, the

734
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Speaker 4: lack of connection with Josh Dobbs. Because of that, the

735
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Speaker 4: wide receiver room was really struggling and you needed a

736
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Speaker 4: player that could jump in. Zach Paskal is really the

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Speaker 4: only veteran in that room with experience. Now you get

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Speaker 4: to add a few more. It definitely does make a difference,

739
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Speaker 4: and a leadership component too, and.

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Speaker 1: Give many Austin for a credit. He's not standing pat

741
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Speaker 1: if there's a way for him to improve a certain

742
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Speaker 1: position group or the roster as a whole. Even those

743
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Speaker 1: final seven eight spots when you kind of figure out

744
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: who your fifty three are going to be, you're always

745
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: looking and you're always keeping an eye out for someone

746
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Speaker 1: that might be better than the next guy that you

747
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Speaker 1: have or the guy that you're sitting there trying to

748
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Speaker 1: figure out who do we want more and what can

749
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Speaker 1: they do for us, not just offensively or defensively, but

750
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Speaker 1: again the special teams component this year, especially on kickoff

751
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Speaker 1: coverage and kickoff return that I think is going to

752
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: be a huge play this season. It's a one year

753
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: experiment and we'll see what happens after twenty twenty four,

754
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Speaker 1: but something that I know this coaching staff is put

755
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Speaker 1: in a lot of work as far as who are

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Speaker 1: our best eleven on either side as far as coverage

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Speaker 1: or return, and then what's the strategy behind the play.

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Speaker 4: And that's where a Zach Pascal kind of gets thrown

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00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: into a weird situation because he wasn't necessarily used that

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Speaker 4: much on the offensive side of the ball, only played

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Speaker 4: a handful of snaps and when he was out there

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Speaker 4: it was mostly as a run blocking wide receiver. But

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Speaker 4: when Zach Pascal was on the field, it was during

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Speaker 4: special teams moments. Now that situation, as we just said,

765
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Speaker 4: as we just talked about, it completely changes.

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Speaker 3: So you don't know what that means for a Zach Pascal.

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Speaker 4: How does he adjust Having played football his entire life,

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Speaker 4: how does he adjust to this entirely new kickoff format

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Speaker 4: because it is going to be different. Do you want

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Speaker 4: more wide receivers out there? Do you want more big bodies?

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Speaker 4: What is it going to be If you're bringing in

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Speaker 4: free agency guys like a Zay Jones or Chris Moore,

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Speaker 4: are they going to be able to adjust to this

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Speaker 4: type of format. There's a there's a lot of unanswered questions.

775
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Speaker 4: Now we won't know until Matt Prater boots that ball

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Speaker 4: in between the twenty.

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Speaker 1: We'll get some canyon say out the end zone. No more, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's that's you don't want to do that. Believe if

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00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: it's out of the end zone, it's a touchback goes.

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Speaker 3: To the thirty thirty I believe so thirty or.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five, can't remember. I need to brush up on

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Speaker 1: some of it. But it's it's no longer come out

783
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Speaker 1: to the twenty five. Yeah, they're making it a penalty

784
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Speaker 1: if you get that touch back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where the plays are gonna But that's when

786
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: you want to try to have that coffin corner and

787
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: really try to boot it in right in between that

788
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: five to goal line. Try to get it right there

789
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Speaker 4: in the corner. Put the put the returner in a

790
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: sticky situation. There's also gonna be multiple instances where you

791
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Speaker 4: might have two returners back there.

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Speaker 3: Uh, who knows what this is? What this is gonna

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Speaker 3: end up becoming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of unanswered questions will begin to get

795
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Speaker 1: some of those questions answered, at least as far as

796
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Speaker 1: the rookies are concerned. With Rookie Mini Caamp coming up

797
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: this weekend, we'll get a chance to hear from some

798
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Speaker 1: of those rookies on Thursday and Friday and early next

799
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Speaker 1: week as well. So yeah, yeah, we're we are getting

800
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Speaker 1: further and further away from the speculation to now figuring

801
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Speaker 1: out or you've got these players in the building, how

802
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: do you make it work to where this team is

803
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: better than four wins a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 4: Now, I have to go back for a quick second

806
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: here because it just hit me and I want to

807
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: ask this question while it's still on the top of

808
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Speaker 4: my mind. We talked a little bit about the numbers,

809
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: and with the rookies coming in, we're going to be

810
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: seeing players wearing different jerseys. We just talked about Marvin

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Speaker 4: wearing Bjay's eighteen. Went with a guy like, let's say

812
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Speaker 4: Trey Benson, who's reportedly supposed to be wearing like number

813
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Speaker 4: thirty three for example. For you, having had experience covering

814
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Speaker 4: the team and this is where the life lessons come

815
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Speaker 4: in and cover two listeners, does it take you some time?

816
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, to really get it.

817
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: Could justin be like, oh, that's not Antonio hammil to

818
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Speaker 4: wear number thirty three, that's actually Trey Benson.

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Speaker 1: It takes a good It takes several practices, and even

820
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: certain numbers will always stand out, like Tyron Matthews number

821
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: will always stand out. And that's the first thing when

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Speaker 1: you see that number. Safe to say eleven will not

823
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Speaker 1: be in use. I think that's pretty safe to say.

824
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Speaker 1: But to see again, According to reports, seventy four now

825
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Speaker 1: being utilized and that's DJ Humphreys's number. So it's gonna

826
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Speaker 1: take and not just for me, but for a lot

827
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Speaker 1: of fans, probably a good offseason, maybe into the training

828
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Speaker 1: camp preseason to kind of get over that and right

829
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Speaker 1: move on. It's no longer that player. We've got a

830
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Speaker 1: brand new set of guys coming in and this is

831
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Speaker 1: their number for this season. But it happens every year,

832
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: so it's like turnover on a roster. Turnover on numbers

833
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: happen all the time.

834
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Speaker 4: Reportedly, Tip Riyeman's supposed to be wearing number eighty seven,

835
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Speaker 4: which was last one by Jeff Swam. So to have

836
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Speaker 4: two tight ends that have similar stature and really kind

837
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: of have two similar skill sets of being that run

838
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Speaker 4: blocking tight end, that's where I think for me, I'm

839
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Speaker 4: like trying to mentally prepare myself like, Okay, that's not

840
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: gonna be Jeff Swam out there, that's gonna be Tip Ryman.

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00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just came to mind that I

842
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: had to ask that question. But to get back to

843
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: what you asked before, Yeah, you want to put together

844
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 4: a roster that's gonna be able to generate a little

845
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: bit more than four wins. But the competition, the competitiveness,

846
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 4: it's it's important. This is a team that truly thrives

847
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: off of competition and wanting to be better every single

848
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: time that team first, U second. Hopefully that generates two

849
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 4: more wins.

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Speaker 1: Now, word of advice, make sure you bring a roster

851
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: out to practice on Friday.

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00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely, I definitely will.

853
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: I remember beginning half of a training camp, even when

854
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: there's ninety rosters. I took a photo of it on

855
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 4: my phone and I made it my background on my

856
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 4: phone because anytime I could just tap it right away,

857
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: roster pops up.

858
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Speaker 1: So that's actually not bad idea. I might have to

859
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Speaker 1: do that as well.

860
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Speaker 3: But then again, it's like if you have family as

861
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: your phone background, Yeah, and you just seem.

862
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: More upset set somebody in the family. That can lead

863
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: to a conversation you don't want to have. They're not here, No,

864
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: that they won't see my phone before we get Zach

865
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Speaker 1: in any further trouble here. How about we put a

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Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer jim On Mohundra, our associate producer

869
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Cuddy Fincher. For Zach Gershman, I'm Greig Real Lou. We'll

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