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We are Alive from the s WBC Mortgage 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.280 Studios at the Star, represented by LG. LG is the 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.240 world's number one O lead TV brand for eleven years 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.560 in counting See why at LG dot com, Ford slash 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.240 O Leedevo. Welcome to Week ones, Game week of the 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.279 NFL season. Man, I'm so excited because after and I 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.080 know we all are college football fans too, so after 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.480 a weekend of some really good college football, now we 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.640 get to the big boys and it's time to get 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.280 the NFL cranked up. This week, starting on Thursday night, Cowboys, 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.560 I mean, I'm sorry, the NFL will kick off it's 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.680 season games on Thursday and Friday this week, and then 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.400 obviously full slate on Sunday games on Monday. It is 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.480 the greatest time of the year when football is back. Today, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.720 We're gonna play a very simple game, but I don't know, 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.320 I don't know how easy it will be. We're gonna 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.959 go through the entire roster. We're gonna go position by position, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.360 including the coach, and we're gonna talk. We're gonna answer 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:44.760 a simple question, are they better, worse or same? So 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.000 we're gonna go through each position group. We'll talk about 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.480 each one and I'll let you guys give us your opinions. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.360 I think this is the best way for us to 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.080 be able to allow our fans to kind of get 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.960 a full assessment. After all the free agency, the draft, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.920 training camp, preseason games. Now you enter the season, where 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.200 are you? And this should set the table I think 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:04.720 for our fans. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.840 So let's start first, just to clarify, this is coming 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:08.920 out of so walking off the field against Green Bay 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.160 versus now or is it like going into last season. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.480 Versus it is where we ended last year. Now, you 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.760 got to put that in hole because I think that's 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.560 a fair question. I think you got to look at 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.640 the whole of last year. You don't just say what 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.760 were they in that final game because we know if 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.160 we're going to do that for sure, nobody played great 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.560 in that last game. Well, most people didn't play great 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.560 in that last game. But I think we look at 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.720 it from the standpoint of if you say the twenty 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.200 twenty three version of the Dallas Cowboys and that started 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.320 with Week one all the way through to the playoff 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.640 loss to Green Bay twenty three version versus the twenty 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.760 twenty four version at least where we are right now 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.760 going into the season. Are they better, worse or the same? 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:47.120 Perfect? 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.040 All right, So let's start first. I want to start 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.160 with the coaches, and obviously the big difference there is 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.960 on the defensive side of the ball. You bring in 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:58.399 Mike Zimmer, you lose dan Quinn to Washington. Is this defense, 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.040 particularly with that change, better, worse or the same? 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.680 From a coaching staff perspective, Whenever you factor in losing 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:11.720 dan Quinn and losing Aiden Dirty, I would say, can 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.320 I say who the same is an option? 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:14.720 Right? 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.240 Yeah, it's the same, better or worse? 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.040 I would I would say better. I think I would. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.240 Whenever you look at Mike Zimmer and the experience that 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.920 he brings and the different type of scheme differences that 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.080 he will bring, the experience that he has not only 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.440 as a head coach but also in Dallas as a coordinator. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.680 I think that's going to be a really big addition 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.480 to this team at the end of the day, the 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.200 defensive line coach, specifically, whenever we look at Aiden Dirty 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.920 versus Jeff Escanina, I really loved what Aiden Dirty brought 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.320 to this team whenever he was around. And this is 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.960 no discredit to Scanina. I just feel like Dirty was 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.400 one of the best defensive line coaches in the NFL 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.280 last year. So in that perspective, I would probably say worse. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.120 But overall, looking at the entire coaching staff, and you know, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.440 as from a holistic perspective, one versus the I think 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:01.760 I like this one a little bit more. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.600 You know, I'm going to say they're better, and you know, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.200 and and this is and this is not because Mike 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.800 and I go way way back. I honestly feel like 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.960 that there are things that Dan did that were very well. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.840 I think his kids, kids, his his guys played for 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.920 they played hard for him. I think there were times 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.719 where he uh I think where he failed you a 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.800 little bit is like maybe putting guys in position to 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.480 make plays. And I'm talking about Micah Parsons. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:28.320 Uh. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.240 I think that I think that Mike Zimmer has a 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.760 better understanding of what he needs to do. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:34.479 Uh. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.680 You know, I I've you know, I sit there and 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.000 you watch all these these quality edge rushers around the league, 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.120 and then Micah was hand down, hand down, hand down, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.360 and it seemed like it was always from the same spot, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.200 you know, And I think that to to really get 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:49.800 this done, you know, when you look at like we're 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.480 into now watching Miles Garrett play, and the amazing thing 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.280 that they do with Miles Garrett is his ability to 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.240 move around, play right, play left, play in the middle 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.520 of do you know, do creative things. I think just 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.880 I think overall, just to me Zimmer, the way his 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.159 techniques and his scheme, I think it's more sound. I 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.640 just you know, to me, it's we talked about turnovers yesday, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.080 created turnovers last year. The last few years, it's been 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.760 really good where I think that we've seen though, we've 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.760 seen some big plays you know, cappen because that I 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.320 think with Mike Zimber, you don't You're not gonna see 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.760 as many big plays against this defense for the way. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.680 So I'm going to say, from where the trends are 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.560 in the league of giving up big plays, Dallas will 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.599 be better defensively of not giving up the big plays. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.200 We did see the preseason, though it was preseason, we 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.800 did see turnovers. We did see those, and Mike was 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.040 even talking. I asked him about that. He says, Listen, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.640 I don't think I'm gonna be able to create as 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.719 many turnovers as they've had here, But damn it, I 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.400 ain't gonna bust coverages and stuff here either, you know. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.720 And I think that's something that this this team and 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.240 then how they use their personnel will be different from 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:03.840 last year. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.080 Yeah, that's an interesting thing. I always look at as 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.920 risk reward, and I think dan Quinn's defense was predicated 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.839 on a few more risks if they could get you 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.960 some big returns. I'm not going to be the person 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.000 that's gonna kind of rewrite history and now make it 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.159 seem like dan Quinn wasn't great for the team, did 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.720 a great job with this and had this defense playing 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.120 at a really high level, but there were moments when 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.840 they would bust and so the question becomes, now, if 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.679 the scheme is more one that doesn't take the risks, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.520 can you get maybe even a little less of the 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.680 of the big turnovers, but at the same time, don't 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.159 give up the big plays. And if you can do 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.480 that now you're better off as a team. I would think, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.240 amber we're talking about better or worse the same, that's 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.360 what we're doing for every position on the team. We 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.479 just talked about the coach, particularly the difference in defensive coordinator. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:51.960 Where would you fall, Well, there's still a lot to see, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.799 Like we haven't actually seen him in a real game 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.440 other than preseason, but I think for me, I would 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.440 say it's that or in the sense that it brings 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:03.880 a different kind of excitement. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.200 You know, you talk about what than Quinn was. Everybody 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.080 loved Dan Quinn. We were a huge fan of him, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.760 but like you just mentioned, you started seeing some of 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.880 that declinent where okay, the defense wasn't where it needed 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:23.040 to be despite those big plays, getting those interceptions, also 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.880 stopping the run. That was a big question there too. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:27.800 You never knew depending on the players that you had 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:33.480 playing or healthy during given time. But with Zimmer right now, 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:37.120 for me, it's just the excitement of the oh you 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:42.080 gotta I was gonna say, like a new toy, but 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:47.120 not quiet, but a guy would experience a guy that 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.760 has earned in such a short time, he's earned or respect. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.760 I mean you you listen to the way that the 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.120 players talk about him, and I love that. I absolutely 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:02.040 loved that, because you know, the players are into his system. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.960 I brought into what he's coaching them. Even the way 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.680 Micah Parson talked about him during training camp and saying 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.240 how he likes the way that he's utilizing him and 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.360 and teaching him new things and how he can be 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.000 more explosive this year. So to me, it's just the 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.000 excitement around him. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.000 I'll speak to that point. You're giving a reliable old 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.840 dog a new toy because you're giving Mike Zimber. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.760 There's a couple of things though that you can look 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.200 back on this too, and maybe the decision of Dan 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.199 Quinn to play as much dime package. And they did 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.280 make a decision on going light at linebacker. They did. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.439 They made that decision. They said, hey, we're going to 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.800 go with Clark vander ash They didn't have a really 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.000 a great answer for linebacker, and they made the best 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.120 of out of they could playing Bell down as much 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.600 dime package stuff. The six defensive backs. They played that 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.440 entirely really the whole game. Because they didn't have they 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.720 made a tactical error. I will say this, I love 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.319 a d as a coach. I love him. I think 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.079 if you want the counter to that is Al Harris. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.600 I think Al Harris is about to be a rising 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.040 star in this league when it comes to defensive backs 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.559 and getting them ready to play. Now, he's going to 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.320 have his challenges ahead until they get Bland back. But 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.839 I have confidence with Carson and others that that Al 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.880 Harris as a coach could do what we would think 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.240 maybe that Ad was doing with your defensive line. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.080 Yeah, that's an interesting point when you look at the 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.679 particularly the cornerbacks on this team and how they've had 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.679 this string of guys that they've brought along draft them, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.000 get him out there to play, and they play really well, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.880 I mean really well that you have to give some 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.120 of that. 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.240 Joe Witt and Joe Witt and Al Harris I. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:50.080 Just did phenomenal. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.400 I believe this with all my heart. Dallas caught a break. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.839 And I don't know if it's professionally or decision or 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.240 they already had a defensive back coach there at the 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.800 Commanders that they were interested in. Dallas caught a huge 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.640 break with Al Harris getting to stay in my opinion, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.640 you know, watching him every day with you guys, I'm like, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.920 this cat can coach, you know, and you see how 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.079 he interacts with his guys. I'd love to sit in 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.400 a meeting with him sometime and watch him technique this 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.240 thing up. But his guys play. They play hard for 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.520 him as well. They play their sound group. I really 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:21.280 like what they're doing. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.160 If we flipped it to the other side of the ball. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.679 Mike McCarthy began calling plays for his team last year. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.400 My question for you is, based on what you saw 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.559 last year, do you think the offense was better last 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.080 year than it was previous before he was calling the plays? 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.360 And then what do you expect going into this year 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.800 and it being the second year that he would be 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:38.079 doing that. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.400 I think it got better. You know, in the beginning, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.720 it was a rough start. After those first six weeks, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.720 you're going into the bye week and you're looking at 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:48.560 the offense holistically and you're like, man, there's some big 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.760 concerns here. Red zone can't capitalize, didn't have a rushing 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.839 touchdown with a running back until week ten. There were 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.320 some concerns there, but I think as the season went 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.320 on and you powered into November, you went on that 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.319 winning streak, You get into December and get a big 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.600 win against Detroit, and you win the division on the 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.520 back of your offense. I think it got better, and 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.480 I think going into year two now that they don't 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.960 really have to tick off the rust of a new offense, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:14.920 I think there's I think there's going to be a 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.360 little bit more cohesion going into these first few weeks 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.040 with the second year under Mike McCarthy. For me, though, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.560 it's still the running game, Like where where does the 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.320 production come from? The running game? This is gonna have 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.400 to be something that I just see see to belief, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.840 and right now I'm not seeing it. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.200 There was I forgot This is bad reporting on my part, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.400 but maybe you remember Nick. I don't know, but I 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.240 don't know when it was, but right after a game, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.680 I forgot what the media was asking him, and he's like, well, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.960 I was calling the plays like it was more of 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.520 a head coach type of question that you ask your 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.400 head coach, And he was just like he gave one 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.560 of those attitudes. I don't know, it just rubbed me 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.679 the wrong way, you know, those little things like that. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.360 I'm like, well, should you be calling the plays then 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.240 or focus on you know, your main job. But uh, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:09.000 I'm being too too, too hard because if I wasn't 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:16.200 his play, yes, yes, hopefully no. But I'm with you 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.000 exactly that. I mean, that's the main thing. The running game. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.640 I think we've seen such an improvement in Dak's passing game. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.760 And I know people this is a debate all the time. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.160 How good is he of a passer. I think he's 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.079 He's improved so much, so so much so I'm not 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.760 worried or concerned about that. I'm more concerned the balance, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.840 finding the right balance and right now. I mean, we 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.839 saw it. Last year. It hasn't it wasn't. It wasn't 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.400 a thing. The running game was non existent, very very few. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.880 I think against Washington that's when you saw, uh, some 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.120 of the running game and Tony Poller. But other than that, 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.080 this year, so far, what we've seen and we haven't 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.800 seen the starters play in the pre in the preseason, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:02.439 but even that training camp is so inconsistent that I 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.839 have to see it to believe it, and hopefully it 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.800 is something that will pick up along the season. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.000 Yeah, I hope this running back decision is not the 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.960 linebacker decision of last year. 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.840 Or the receiver decision from Yeah well and. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.880 All of a sudden it's like, no, we're fine, will 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.840 be good, And I hope that's not the case. The 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.040 thing that I always strive for and look at and 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.319 when we watch other teams play when we have time 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:30.360 is the creativity. You know, you watch teams that are 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.320 really creative, even if they're not very good up front, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.520 their ability to run the football. I was watching watching 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.880 the Browns just run the ball, because that's one of 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.200 the better running teams. I'm thinking, how the hell they 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.560 do that? There is some real creativity with their blocking 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.920 schemes and stuff like that, and it doesn't require somebody 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.319 coming off the ball and just blowing somebody up. It is. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.720 It is two traps, a pole and a lead back, 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.800 or two traps a poll a tie in in the hole. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.720 You know, there's a difference with lining up shoe to 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.559 shoe and trying to get three. You know what I'm saying, 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.080 Try to just run the ball and see if oh, look, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.120 you know, let's see if Pollard can get with some creativity. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.720 And I and this is bothered me a little bit. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.240 I really respect Brian Schottenheimer. I really do. His dad 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.360 was one of my dad was an outstanding coach, comes 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.400 from a football family. I asked him when this question 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.720 and we had him on the air on one O 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.360 five three the fan. I asked him, who do you 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.320 steal plays from? Nah, we really don't steal plays. We don't, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.440 you know. And I'm like, man, I was with Andy 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.760 Reid and all he did was steel plays from other teams. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.040 You know, he was one of the best play callers 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.400 in the league. John Gruden, guys, they steal plays, the 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.920 really good ones. The Sean mcvays, Hey, I saw that 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.640 play in a Sunday night game and I thought, this Thursday, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.720 we just added it to the mix and scored a 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:58.360 touchdown off it. The really good coordinators steal plays ideas college, pro, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.000 high school, wherever. If you told me that this team 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.320 doesn't run the ball because they're not physical enough and 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.600 all that, I would agree. Okay, Well, what's the answer 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.800 to that. How about creativity? 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.080 It's it's funny. I spoke to that point a little 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.440 bit in our show last week. The only creativity that 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.200 we saw in the running game last year was personnel. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.920 It wasn't it wasn't scheme. It was putting Turpin or 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.040 CD Lamb in the backfield, which yes it worked at times, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.320 it works, but there was not a schematic creativity that 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.080 really led towards Tony Poler having success or we goo 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.280 doubtle having success because, like I said last week, Tony 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.840 Poller was not an inside zone guy, and they just 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.640 rammed him in between the tackles fifteen times a game 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.800 and the eventually it just wore him down. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:39.840 Can I throw this though to you, Brian, I hear 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.600 what you're saying. I agree with that in a lot 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.720 of ways. Is there at least thought that maybe the 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.600 new people that they've added to this offensive line, when 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.640 you go back to the start Tyler and Bibie, they're 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:52.600 more power guys. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.000 I think the reason you might have success running the 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.720 football this year is because your center is more physical, yeah, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.800 and stronger, and you combine that with the right guard 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.880 who's probably in his last campaign, but he still has 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.480 the ability to power and stand his feet and push 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.520 and get to that second level when this team ran 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.560 the ball. When it was really running the ball. It 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:18.200 was like with Ron Leary, big powerful guard. They had 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.840 Frederick that was like able to like, you know, get 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.080 his guy and then get to the second level. Martin 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.520 was young, he was pushing his guy. They were physical inside, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.280 they were really filing. That's my hope with this team. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.080 I just like to see if it's I don't want 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.360 to see like football in a phone booth, you know, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.400 where everybody's shoot to shoe and we're just pushing the 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.200 front and hoping. If you're gonna do that, then you 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.720 better have you better have Rico daddle in. They're running 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.440 the ball to get to and through because you don't 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.840 need just to plot along. You know, teams can say 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.720 I was watching Cleveland and I'm like going, damn, that's 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.520 that's how you That's how you kind of figure out 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.480 and it's just not the back their scheme. And I 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.720 think that had something to do with running game Moses 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.280 over there. Bill Callahan. You know Bill Callahan is down 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.840 in Tennessee and so running gay Moses. He when he 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.679 when he's coaching these dudes up man there, and he 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.720 was one of the guys coaching when they were really 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:16.199 running the ball well here. So that just gives me 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.520 a little like if if they can kind of find 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.920 that some way, then I'm not gonna worry. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.120 So your point on creativity something that. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.400 They're gonna yell at me for saying that word creativity, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:27.359 but it's. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.200 No, but it's I think it's a fair word because 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.760 and I would say, what's I was gonna switch it 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.520 for another word, and I forgot the word that I 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.959 was gonna say. But in that topic, something that bugged 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.720 me from last season is how underutilized were certain players. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:49.040 Brandon Cooks, Volunteer Turping Hunter lip Key. Those are three 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.960 main guys that, Yeah, those are three guys right there 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.359 that are very skilled and talented, and I highly believe 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.520 that they were extremely, extremely underutilized last year in what 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.320 Mike McCarthy was doing. But hopefully this year it changes 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.520 after you review everything and they start being more I 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.879 mean just the word creativity, yes, I think created. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:12.600 One of the interesting things too, is that the fact 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.280 that Cede Lamb wasn't at camp I think bodes well 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.200 for Cooks being more involved in the passing game, for yeah, 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.639 for Tobert, for all the receivers. Because Dak had to 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.040 use those other guys. He had to develop that with 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.640 him because he didn't have CD there. So I expect 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.040 that this is going to be a much better year 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:30.680 for some of those supporting wide receivers. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.080 Uh. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.879 And we'll see what happens with Lipke and what his 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.240 role is on the scene real quick. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:36.399 I know we got to get to break. But the 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.000 thing when you watch like the that's part for the 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.240 course here, But the thing about it when you watch 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.480 teams like the San Francisco's run and I know their personnel, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.840 I get it used to check and you got one 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.679 of the best bocks in the league, you know, with 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.159 the way, but you see guys moving to get in 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.720 position to block. You see they're committee like four guys 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.840 blocking on three and now it's up to McCaffrey to 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.240 make a move. And then they're you know, that's the 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.720 kind of thing. Give me the opportunity to I'm going 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.359 to outnumber you here. Yeah, I'm going to find a 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.200 way to get my one extra guy in position to 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.080 block for these running plays and stuff. And I that's 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.120 what I'm talking about with creativity. There's ways to do 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.760 this without you know, you know, three yards and a 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.280 cloud of dust, offense. Yeah, there's ways to to run 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.520 the football, but to use your athletes in your offense line. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.359 You got two athletic tackles and three guys inside that 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:33.200 really got a lot of. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:37.480 Strength, especially with four Titans. Yeah, exactly, especially with four Titans. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.480 We're gonna take our first break. We'll come back. We're 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.560 gonna get into better, worse, same at the different positions 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.800 on the team. We've talked about running back an offensive 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.160 line a little bit. I want to get a little 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:47.960 deeper into those positions when we come back this Dallas 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.280 Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:51.960 Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.960 cheatah Savannah. 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There really wasn't wasn't any change in personnel. 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.320 The only question would be do you think anyone's gotten 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.480 necessarily better, particularly Dak Prescott, who we suspect will play 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.480 most of, if not all, of the season, hopefully for 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.560 the Cowboys, barring any injuries. 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.159 Better worse, saying I think they got better in one way, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.760 and you could talk about we now understand what Trey 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.280 Lance is, but as the third quarterback, I think Cooper 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.360 Rush got better because his willingness to throw the ball 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.760 down the field. I don't see a nickel and diamond 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:21.679 guy anymore, see a guy. It was kind of like, 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:23.280 either I'm going to be the two or the three. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.000 You know here I am, so he just start horsing 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:27.679 the ball down the field, you know, and I'm like 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.440 going all right, throwing the deep out, throwing the end cut, 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.240 Oh look a comeback. It wasn't like check down, check down, 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.800 check down, you know, run the ball, check down. I mean, 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.800 it's like he opened up his mind if, like you know, 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.160 he had really nothing. 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:42.480 To lose, he was. 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.000 Gonna be the second quarterback or he was gonna be 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.840 the third quarterback. That's what they got better in my opinion. 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:50.640 Yeah, I think also this is going to be an 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.600 interesting decision that they could make. I don't think they 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.160 will make this decision, but they could activate all three 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.679 quarterbacks and integrate Trey Lance and some wildcat stuff that 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.120 could open up the running game a little bit more 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:03.000 worked with. 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:08.919 If you had fossil about, somebody is gonna have to 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:10.679 popping around the corner like what. 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.000 They would have to take away from somewhere. Like I said, 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.000 this is probably a situation where it doesn't happen, But 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:17.440 if they want to get creative in the run game, 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:21.240 activate Trey Lance and put. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.560 On a game that's nothing wrong with that. 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.440 I can't even imagine the scenario where that actually. 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.240 Happensativity right there. 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.880 Now we're talking creativity. 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.000 Especially if you guys, as we talked about this, we're 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:31.920 going to talk about next that running game. It does 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.800 give you a little something different in that run game. 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.119 Now, once he starts to I'm like, okay, too much. 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.199 Too much, we're just running. 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.800 They should put like a suggestion box right over there 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.000 my football side and then people, you know. 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.720 When you let's have the snack this week, almost a. 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.359 Snack better, you know you're just sending something in. 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:55.920 Food. 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.520 Walk over and just put some in the box. 0:24:59.040 --> 0:24:59.840 Activate tree lance. 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:07.160 I think that would be fun. I think I think 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:12.520 they're fine. I would yeah, I would say the same. 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:12.879 Uh. 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.600 I mean, if anything, Dak, I think he picked right 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.280 off where he left off last year. I don't think 0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.160 it took him like right off the bat. You can 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.600 tell he had been doing those practices in his backyard 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.119 and training and all of that, because right off the 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.480 start of training camp, I mean he didn't miss a beat. 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.960 Not everything was perfect, absolutely not, that's for sure. There 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:38.840 were several days that even against the Rams, you were like, WHOA, 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:43.960 what is happening here? But I think he's he's still 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.280 a very solid guy. And Cooper Rush. To me, he 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.880 still looks like Cooper Rush that I trust him if 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.120 anything was to happen, obviously not in the long term form, 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.240 but for him to step up as a backup, I 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:56.159 fully trust. 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.479 Mike Zimmer challenged all these quarterbacks. Yeah, they challenged him 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.520 to read, they challenged them to react, and you know, 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.560 and they and to a man, it was like you 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.800 could tell there were times they were going through it 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.520 and it was pretty difficult. So overall, yeah, the group 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.080 got better. But I like I said that whole thing 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.439 with Cooper Rush more willingness to throw the ball down 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.320 the field, I hope that's the guy would get if 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.800 if and I don't want it to be an if 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.760 that Dak can't play. 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.240 Let's move on to the running back position. The big 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.919 loss there being Tony Pollard. But I think, if my 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.640 memory serves me correct, everybody on this show, and Nick, 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.320 you were on another show at the time, so I 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:32.840 don't know how you fell on this, but I think 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.320 everybody on this show was okay with the idea as 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.240 we finished that season that the Cowboys shouldn't move on 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.520 and not pay Tony Pollard big money to be running 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.600 back here with the Dallas Cowboys. But that being said, 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.600 they lost Tony Pollard, they did pick up Zeke, and 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.440 they did pick up here in the last week Dalvin Cook. 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.720 That being said, do you think they're better, worse or 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:54.480 the same worse. 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.600 I gotta see it. I gotta see it at all. 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.520 I feel like this is the biggest certain on the 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.320 on the roster right now. After they addressed the defensive 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.960 tackle hole in my eyes, and going and trading for 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.800 Jordan Phillips and adding Linval Joseph, I'm now looking at 0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.200 the running back position as the biggest red flag. It's 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.959 just I don't see where they build playmaking ability between 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.600 the twenties and getting downfield, red zone, different scenario. I 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.840 think they do get a rushing touchdown before Week ten, 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.280 I will say that, but I think whenever it's talking 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.719 about this offense needs a running game to open it up, 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.200 Dak Prescott needs to be able to utilize the play 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.840 action for him to be at one hundred percent efficiency. 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.880 I don't see that happening with the current run game 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.160 situation as it is right now. 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.480 Yeah, Derek, that show, we did you know we were 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.280 working on the draft show. We were thinking that we 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.440 were going to draft again, right, you were like, ah, yeah, 0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:43.960 get rid of the guy, get rid of. If we'd 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:47.399 have known that, we'd said, no, Paypollar, keep him. I 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.439 mean I was I was thinking, Man, they got to 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.400 do something with this running back room. I didn't think 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.240 it was going to be bringing Ezekiel Elliott back, but 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.120 they did. Uh yeah, I'm on board with Nick here. 0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.400 I do feel like I just don't want the offensive 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.560 line to have good reps, good snaps, play blocked. Maybe 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.080 to run eight ten yards and it only goes three 0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.960 or four, you know, just because you're not getting to 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.679 and through the hole. I say that a lot, but 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.160 that's really what running game is. You get the back 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.760 in the second level. You get a chance to be 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.080 a really good running team. And I worry about this 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.679 team having the ability to do that consistently. The longer 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.400 you have to hold the blocks, the longer these officials 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.840 love to call holding. You know, you get a quick back, 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.800 somebody can hit it, get through there, you brush, you go, 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:30.719 and the you know, officials let it go. But if 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.080 you're sitting there, you know, if if tren Steele is 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.520 on the back side, he's holding, holding, holding and kind 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.080 of gets a hand to pull a guy to keep 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.680 him from getting in on the tackle because Zeke's not 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.680 to the hole, or or you know, any one of 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.800 these backs aren't to the hole and you get call 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.960 for holding, You're gonna remember what I said because the 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.640 longer you have to hold blocks, the more likely you're 0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:52.920 going to get call for holding. 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.160 Oh what's it for me? I mean same or words 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.560 is about the same? Like last year wasn't good to me. 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.000 So I think with these guys again, you talk about 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.720 the inconsistency. I've been saying it, and I said it 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.920 during training camp. I can't really put it, like I 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.640 can't really figure out if it's the line or the 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.600 running backs or it's a combination of both. That it's 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.960 just not they're not quite there happening. But right now, 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.360 no one on the team really has shown me that 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.880 kind of spark and speed. And they all have their 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.080 own thing that they do well, and they all have 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.880 shown that they do have that speed, but it's just 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.720 it's not translating onto what we've seen so far. So 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.160 right now, I'm excited that Seek is back. 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:40.440 For sure. 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.080 I think he looks in very good shape. He looks 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.720 light in his feet and his footwork. I'm excited to 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.760 see how he comes in and helps, but is it 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.400 very promising? I I don't know. 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.200 Me Let me ask you if you say it's the same. 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.400 Tony Pollard was a thousand yard rushers a year ago. 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.920 And I know how these two feel about Rico Dowdell. 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.000 Does that mean that you feel like there there is 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.320 a running back on the roster right now that could 0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.120 rush for one thousand yards this season if given the opportunity. 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:09.560 Why can he be a team effort? 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:10.920 You think so? 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:11.000 So? 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.760 You think I've been on recognizing it, and I think 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:15.240 it's more than I think it's more than a thousand. 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:16.760 I think he's a twelve hundred yard back and you 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:17.640 can play if. 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.440 He can't ext for him to stay. 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.080 That's the key. It's all for me for Rico Dinersto 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.440 being healthy. And you said you hadn't really seen that 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.720 spark from any of these backs. I think I have 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.920 from Rico Dowdle. I've seen him like that. But the 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:33.920 point is he hasn't had the opportunity yet to be 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.600 the full give me the load running back. And if 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.200 you can do that, if they give him the load, 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.280 what does he do with it. Number one, can he 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.360 consistently be what we've seen him be in spurts and 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.320 can he stay healthy. There's a lot of ifs involved 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.000 in his calculators. 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.040 Okay, so we're going let's just based off of his 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.240 yards per carry last season at four point one yards 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:02.600 per carry. If he stays on that same line this year, 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:08.560 I think from from y'all's perspective, twelve hundred. Yeah, y'all 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:09.800 think you could take the next step. This is just 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.880 for a thousand yards. He would need fourteen carries a game, 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:13.400 more than four. 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.480 See, that's good. That's that. This art, my conversation that 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.080 we're having here is predicated on them giving him the ball, 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.080 like him becoming the primary back. If he's not the 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:28.200 primary back, then then and a decision like that could 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.040 be made. We've seen that before, Like, well, can't you 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.840 tell this one guy's averaging four point eight yards of 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.960 carry and the other one's averaging three point eight yards 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.400 to carry, and they keep giving the ball to the 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.520 guy keeps carrying the ball three point eight. We're at 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.479 the mercy of we're at the mercy of carries. An 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.840 injury for that guy, you know it. But if he 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.520 has both I'll bet on it. 0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:52.040 And I think he can do it. 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.200 I'm still in the big in my mind, like is 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.800 the story going to repeat itself of the last two years, 0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.960 where like it was Paular be hind Zeke and then 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:05.200 people asking for Pollard. Then it was Rico behind Poler, 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.320 and then people were asking for Rico and then now 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.920 we really got him. So I just I don't know. 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:15.240 It's just an interesting concept there and the. 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.560 History of the Cowboys saw it happened with Troy hambric 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.800 Everybody wanted Troy Hambrick in there, and as soon as 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:20.680 he was in there was like. 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.960 This, this is There's a lot of bad things you 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.520 can call football players, and I've heard all of them 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.800 in meetings, But the worst thing you can call player, 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.520 I think is a progress stopper. And I hope, I 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.720 hope that gentleman that they brought back is not a 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.080 progress stopper for potentially for Rico Dawdle maybe getting a 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.720 getting that opportunity, you know, because but then also they 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.320 could look at this though and also say, hey, none 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.000 of these guys are gonna work and we're gonna have 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.400 a wide receiver situation like in Week four and we 0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.440 got to make a trade. Yeah, we get a trade. 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.520 My thing is, I think Dalvin Cook is a is 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.440 a really good insurance policy. I think if I with 0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.320 the Cowboys, and if I were making decisions, I would 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:01.920 go into the season and say, I'm going to give 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.880 Rico Dowdell the full load. I'm gonna use Zeke in 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.000 short yardist type situations, and I'm gonna sprinkle in a 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.680 little Deuce, little Lipkey do some different things with them. 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.080 But I'm gonna beat Donald's gonna be my primary guy. 0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.360 And in the event that he gets injured, now we're 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.360 gonna have to piece sing together and Dalvin Cook just 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.680 give me one more guy with some experience. I could 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.240 sprinkle in there as I need to do it. But 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.440 I would go into the season saying, Dallas my guy. 0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.920 I would I said this on the radio one day 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.920 and people actually liked it, and I can't believe that 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.320 was the case. I said, I would use Zeke up 0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.720 for three games. I'd throw Cook out there for three games. 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.120 I would keep Rico Daddle as healthy as possible in 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.600 the playoffs, and I would just run these guys into 0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.000 the ground and then when they're done, and then it's like, 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:47.640 okay for four and three right now, Week eight, let's go. 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.760 I mean, you got some tough games coming up. Actually, 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.720 let those old dudes take all those hits. 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.280 That's not a bad thuugh, all right, we're gonna take 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.040 our final break. We'll come back and we might even 0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.000 get to one other position that we'll come back. 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I'm sorry, O 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.880 lead EVO. Yeah, welcome back, final segment. 0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.840 I'm easy. Here's the real good company, great company. 0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.160 Here's what we're gonna do. We've got this game going better, worse, same. 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:04.319 I don't know. 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:04.799 I guess. 0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:06.640 Yeah, we went around for running back. Now we're at 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:07.280 wide receiver. 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:08.640 Now you can't. 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.200 We've only done we've only done three, only in two. 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.560 All right, so wide receiver really lost Michael Gallop. That 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:14.880 was the only real loss. 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:15.839 I guess. 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.759 On the plus side, Jalen Tolbert Jalen Brooks likely will 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.040 have increased roles this year. Are they better saying or worse? 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.440 I think better. I think when you factor in Jalen 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:29.000 Tolbert taking this extra level of approach going into year three, 0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.839 the connection that he's been able to have with Dak 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.080 Prescott over the course of the offseason. You factor that 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.160 in Jalen Brooks looking really strong and shorthanded at camp, 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.040 and Cavante Turpin very sneakily had one of the best 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:42.960 training camps of any player on the team. So I 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.520 think if they can find ways to get him more involved, 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.479 I think it's going to be a much improved unit, 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.239 and we'll see what kind of opportunities Ryan Flinoy gets 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.440 the rookie I think he's gonna be one of the 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.000 inactives at least early in the season. But if he 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:56.759 does get his opportunities, I'd love to see what that 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.880 looks like too. But you look at what you lost 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.480 in Michael Gallup and loved what he put forth in 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.840 that final game against Cream Bay. You know, he definitely 0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.640 had a going out party. But I think when you 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.080 factor that in with what is coming up as far 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.280 as what is improving with Jalen Tolbert, Jalen Brooks, come Turpin, 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:13.719 I like this unit a lot better. 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.640 Flinoyd take Brooks's spot. 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.719 As in he's wide receiver five and Brooks is six. 0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.759 I don't believe so, I Flinoy, there's still been too 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:23.560 much inconsistency. 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.120 Big body blocking that big body playing. 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:27.480 I think Brooks could do that too, though. 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.040 Big body playing on special teams, I think Brooks could 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:30.480 do that too. 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.920 Body with toughness, I think Brooks could do that one too. Yeah. 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.719 No, I'm not you're paying attention to screw by the way. 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:38.279 I'm just. 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.640 I've senior level of commitment to the bit. 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:46.839 Rico Dowdell think is gonna be all year there we go, 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.080 oh yeah, no doubt every we're gonna have the Rico 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.000 Dowdell train, Like what's happening with. 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.360 Yeah, every week adding all the jar the yards and 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:56.360 calculating everything. 0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:01.239 Maybe Monday morning it'll be like so seventeen yards, two carries. 0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.960 They got better with Tolburt. And this is no disrespect 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.799 to Gallup, but they Tolbert the work that they got, 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.120 and you mentioned all those young receivers and stuff to work. 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.799 I think Tolbert, I think, says me on Twitter the 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.120 other day, Breakout Player. I said, Tolbert, I think Tolbert's 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:17.799 going to show people a lot of things. I think 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.680 he's I think this These last couple of years have 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.160 been tough on him, but I feel like they watching 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.439 him practice every single day, it didn't look too big 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.319 for him and he and it could have been one 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.960 of him when Brooks battling every day, I just thought 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.239 Tolbert was a better player. When you watch practice every 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.279 single day. It started off very equal, and then by 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.840 the end I was clearly in the camp of Tolbert 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.319 being better than Brooks, but Brooks got better as well, 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.880 just not to the point where he could beat out Tolbert. 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.040 Right now, yeah, I think they're way better. And Michael Gollip, 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.799 I don't think you ever recovered from the injury. Is 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.200 just it just never really. 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:51.640 Happened until it got hurt too. 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.480 Yeah, which is tough to do. It's tough. I mean 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.040 I've never been through that, but I can only imagine. 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.440 But I think that all these receivers right now, they 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.920 have such a good chemistry with Dak. I think everyone 0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:09.680 just looks very confident and and very explosive fast, and 0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.840 just like they just they know what they're doing and 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.240 the placement. They just seem like they have the experience. 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:21.760 And again it's now what year three for Tobert, right, so. 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.399 It's still busy, right, this is the time. 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.880 Yeah, this is like this. It's like you still in 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.520 your mind, you're like, oh, well he's still young, but no, 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.120 like this is already you need to do it now. 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.759 But he looks Yeah. 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.799 And Brooks he's one of those guys. I mean you 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.759 see him walking around, you don't think much of it, 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:42.319 and then you see him on the veil and he's 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:47.799 just like he has such a a vibe, like such 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:53.040 a good positive charist. So I just I just love 0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.560 when things do translate on the field and you just 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.479 root for them even more. He's just he's a great guy, 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.720 and I love the way he plays and runs. 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:02.319 Yeah, me too. 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.040 All right, let's real quick before we in the show. 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:05.880 We'll get one more. Let's talk about the tight end position. 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:09.080 They lost Peyton Hindershot. They get Stevens back from injury, 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.080 which I think most of us going into last year 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.120 before he got hurt, thought he might be a new 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.000 asset for this team. And then obviously the development of 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.359 of Luke's schooon makable factor into this. Are they better, 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:19.120 worse or the same? 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.680 I asked Jake Ferguson a question in the locker room yesterday. 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:25.320 I asked him if they're better or worse? I asked, 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.120 the confidence that you're able to bring from the year 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.080 that you had last year, does that make you a 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.920 more confident player going into this season than you were 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.319 going into last season? Knowing already that he is a 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.600 confident player, and he said, without a doubt. And I 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:43.759 think looking at that, looking at the connection answer, well, 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.160 I mean you could say, like, no, my confidence has 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.200 always been the same. It's always been, you know, you know, 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:50.920 along the same line. And honestly, I kind of expected 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.200 that kind of answer, like I approach the same every day, 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.640 the same, I'm gonna be confident regardless. But he was like, no, 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.839 without a doubt, I am more confident going into this year. 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.440 So I think I think with that, I think understanding 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:06.759 his connection with with Dak and understanding as well, getting 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.879 John Stevens back from injury, getting Luke scoon Maker back 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.960 from a couple of injuries. I think this unit is 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.439 going to be better. But I believe in that because 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.239 of the guy up top, Jake Ferguson. I think he's 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.759 gonna have, without a doubt, Pro Bowl season. I think 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.479 he's gonna knock it on the door for all Pro 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.200 I think he's gonna have one of those years. 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.799 I'm gonna look right at that camera right there, that 0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:29.719 camera right there, span Ford, eyes are on you man. 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.759 That was a surprise. That was a surprise edition right 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:34.600 there on that roster. 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:35.120 Yeah. 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.200 And I actually he played better the last couple of 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.879 weeks of training camp. Some things kind of improved for him. 0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:45.640 Again because of how big he is. I I'm just 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.680 kind of thinking that this is one of those times 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.839 where this cowboy tied end. Every year it seems like 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:54.319 I get mad at one of them and then they 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.480 block me on Twitter, and then they turn in two 0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:00.640 years later being like a really good player. They span 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.600 Ford's bonus and all that stuff. It's nice and all 0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:08.000 it's but there was you know, there was some protecting 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.839 going on right there with that guy, because I think 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.800 there was. If you sat down and we all watched 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.120 tape together, we would go, oh, that wasn't very good, 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.080 and you know, maybe the first couple of games, but 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.399 then there was some things that kind of improved at him. 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.480 But you know what for him to hold a roster 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.080 spot on you bro. 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:37.000 Better, we're saying, not facy. 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:42.000 It was hilarious. I mean to me, it's about the same. 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.400 I mean, everything's about the same. But no, and I 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:48.840 think it is a solid maker. 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.879 I gotta give up on some I gotta I gotta 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:52.879 go somewhere in the big ten to yell at somebody here. 0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.240 I can't yell at Scoon Maker anymore. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.440 I think it is a solid group. And we know 0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.680 that that's one position that Dak tends to rely a 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.799 lot on and it's like his comfort spot, comfort zone 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:08.040 right there. But look scoon Maker. He's a guy that 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.640 I got to give him credit and shout outs to 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.239 him because he has been put it in the work. 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.960 Sometimes he has something new pop up as an injury, 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.799 and then he's dealing with that. That's a problem. But 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.000 to me it is impressive because sometimes I see him 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.600 how he walks and all that, and he looks so stiff, 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.240 and in my mind, I'm like, but then he plays 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.719 and he will make those athletic plays. And I think 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.240 he has a very good size. His height I think 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.200 does help him in some scenarios and situations. But I 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:40.279 do see him improving. I think he's going better, and 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.160 that's because he's been working. But again, the injuries have 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:45.759 kind of stopped him from certain things. 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.920 Real quick question the room, real quick power. Rank your 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:51.359 tight ends in. 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:57.640 Order, Ferguson, Stevens, Schoonmaker, span Ford exactly same. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.080 Steven Stevens clearly my number two, Steven number two, That's 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:03.560 what I'm saying. 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.400 And the big thing about it was I was and 0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:06.160 maybe that's. 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:09.919 Why they might be better because Steven's improving over what 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:11.160 you've seen from the last year. 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:12.759 And I think the big thing was him improving as 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.320 a as a blocker, Like that's because you thought we 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.080 knew he could catch the ball, we could get out 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.520 and get opens. Yeah, he's gotten better as a blocker, 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:20.920 and I think that's what made him for me make 0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:22.600 that jump into that number two. 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.640 Such an upgrade over hender shot. It's such an upgrade. Yeah, 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:26.560 such an upgrade. 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.640 All right, that's a wrap for us. We were back 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.240 to daily shows, so we'll be back tomorrow eleven o'clock. 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:35.240 We're gonna start getting into the matchup Cowboys versus Browns. 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:38.640 O'Brian will have the Browns offense versus Cowboys defense tomorrow. 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.240 We'll do the flip on Thursday, and then on Friday 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.239 we'll get you ready with our picks for the game. 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.960 Till then for Nick Harris, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. 0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:46.319 I'm Derek. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.520 This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:49.040 Comrey you. 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.960 This has been a production of Dallas Coowboys dot Com 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.