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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, September third, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 2: O Leedevo. Welcome to Week ones, Game week of the

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Speaker 2: NFL season. Man, I'm so excited because after and I

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Speaker 2: know we all are college football fans too, so after

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Speaker 2: a weekend of some really good college football, now we

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Speaker 2: get to the big boys and it's time to get

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Speaker 2: the NFL cranked up. This week, starting on Thursday night, Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, the NFL will kick off it's

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Speaker 2: season games on Thursday and Friday this week, and then

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Speaker 2: obviously full slate on Sunday games on Monday. It is

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Speaker 2: the greatest time of the year when football is back. Today,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play a very simple game, but I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how easy it will be. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go through the entire roster. We're gonna go position by position,

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Speaker 2: including the coach, and we're gonna talk. We're gonna answer

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Speaker 2: a simple question, are they better, worse or same? So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go through each position group. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: each one and I'll let you guys give us your opinions.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the best way for us to

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Speaker 2: be able to allow our fans to kind of get

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Speaker 2: a full assessment. After all the free agency, the draft,

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Speaker 2: training camp, preseason games. Now you enter the season, where

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Speaker 2: are you? And this should set the table I think

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Speaker 2: for our fans.

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Speaker 7: So let's start first, just to clarify, this is coming

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Speaker 7: out of so walking off the field against Green Bay

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Speaker 7: versus now or is it like going into last season.

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Speaker 2: Versus it is where we ended last year. Now, you

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Speaker 2: got to put that in hole because I think that's

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Speaker 2: a fair question. I think you got to look at

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Speaker 2: the whole of last year. You don't just say what

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Speaker 2: were they in that final game because we know if

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Speaker 2: we're going to do that for sure, nobody played great

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Speaker 2: in that last game. Well, most people didn't play great

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Speaker 2: in that last game. But I think we look at

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Speaker 2: it from the standpoint of if you say the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three version of the Dallas Cowboys and that started

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Speaker 2: with Week one all the way through to the playoff

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Speaker 2: loss to Green Bay twenty three version versus the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four version at least where we are right now

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Speaker 2: going into the season. Are they better, worse or the same?

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Speaker 5: Perfect?

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's start first. I want to start

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Speaker 2: with the coaches, and obviously the big difference there is

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Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer, you lose dan Quinn to Washington. Is this defense,

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Speaker 7: From a coaching staff perspective, Whenever you factor in losing

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Speaker 7: dan Quinn and losing Aiden Dirty, I would say, can

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Speaker 7: I say who the same is an option?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same, better or worse?

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Speaker 7: I would I would say better. I think I would.

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Speaker 7: Whenever you look at Mike Zimmer and the experience that

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Speaker 7: I think that's going to be a really big addition

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Speaker 7: last year. So in that perspective, I would probably say worse.

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Speaker 7: But overall, looking at the entire coaching staff, and you know,

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to say they're better, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I think his kids, kids, his his guys played for

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I think that I think that Mike Zimmer has a

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Speaker 5: You know, I I've you know, I sit there and

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Speaker 5: just you know, to me, it's we talked about turnovers yesday,

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to say, from where the trends are

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Speaker 5: We did see the preseason, though it was preseason, we

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Speaker 5: even talking. I asked him about that. He says, Listen,

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Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna be able to create as

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Speaker 5: And I think that's something that this this team and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting thing. I always look at as

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Speaker 2: give up the big plays. And if you can do

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Speaker 2: that now you're better off as a team. I would think,

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Speaker 2: amber we're talking about better or worse the same, that's

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Speaker 2: what we're doing for every position on the team. We

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Speaker 2: just talked about the coach, particularly the difference in defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Where would you fall, Well, there's still a lot to see,

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Speaker 3: Like we haven't actually seen him in a real game

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Speaker 4: You know, you talk about what than Quinn was. Everybody

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Speaker 4: but like you just mentioned, you started seeing some of

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Speaker 4: to be despite those big plays, getting those interceptions, also

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Speaker 4: stopping the run. That was a big question there too.

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Speaker 4: You never knew depending on the players that you had

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Speaker 4: for me, it's just the excitement of the oh you

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Speaker 4: I mean you you listen to the way that the

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Speaker 4: loved that, because you know, the players are into his system.

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Speaker 7: I'll speak to that point. You're giving a reliable old

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Speaker 5: There's a couple of things though that you can look

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Speaker 5: make a decision on going light at linebacker. They did.

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Speaker 5: They made that decision. They said, hey, we're going to

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Speaker 5: dime package stuff. The six defensive backs. They played that

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Speaker 5: if you want the counter to that is Al Harris.

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Speaker 5: I think Al Harris is about to be a rising

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Speaker 5: and getting them ready to play. Now, he's going to

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Speaker 5: I have confidence with Carson and others that that Al

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting point when you look at the

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Speaker 2: particularly the cornerbacks on this team and how they've had

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Speaker 2: get him out there to play, and they play really well,

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Speaker 5: Joe Witt and Joe Witt and Al Harris I.

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Speaker 2: Just did phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: I believe this with all my heart. Dallas caught a break.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's professionally or decision or

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Speaker 5: Commanders that they were interested in. Dallas caught a huge

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Speaker 5: break with Al Harris getting to stay in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: you know, watching him every day with you guys, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: this cat can coach, you know, and you see how

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Speaker 5: he interacts with his guys. I'd love to sit in

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Speaker 2: If we flipped it to the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy began calling plays for his team last year.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's let's get into our game. Better, worse,

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Speaker 2: same quarterback position. There really wasn't wasn't any change in personnel.

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Speaker 2: The only question would be do you think anyone's gotten

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Speaker 2: necessarily better, particularly Dak Prescott, who we suspect will play

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Speaker 2: most of, if not all, of the season, hopefully for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, barring any injuries.

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Speaker 5: Better worse, saying I think they got better in one way,

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Speaker 5: and you could talk about we now understand what Trey

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Speaker 5: Lance is, but as the third quarterback, I think Cooper

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Speaker 5: Rush got better because his willingness to throw the ball

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Speaker 5: down the field. I don't see a nickel and diamond

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Speaker 5: guy anymore, see a guy. It was kind of like,

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Speaker 5: either I'm going to be the two or the three.

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Speaker 5: You know here I am, so he just start horsing

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Speaker 5: the ball down the field, you know, and I'm like

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Speaker 5: going all right, throwing the deep out, throwing the end cut,

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Speaker 5: Oh look a comeback. It wasn't like check down, check down,

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Speaker 5: check down, you know, run the ball, check down. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's like he opened up his mind if, like you know,

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Speaker 5: he had really nothing.

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Speaker 7: To lose, he was.

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Speaker 5: Gonna be the second quarterback or he was gonna be

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Speaker 5: the third quarterback. That's what they got better in my opinion.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think also this is going to be an

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Speaker 7: interesting decision that they could make. I don't think they

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Speaker 7: will make this decision, but they could activate all three

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks and integrate Trey Lance and some wildcat stuff that

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Speaker 7: could open up the running game a little bit more

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Speaker 7: worked with.

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Speaker 5: If you had fossil about, somebody is gonna have to

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Speaker 5: popping around the corner like what.

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Speaker 7: They would have to take away from somewhere. Like I said,

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Speaker 7: this is probably a situation where it doesn't happen, But

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Speaker 7: if they want to get creative in the run game,

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Speaker 7: activate Trey Lance and put.

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Speaker 5: On a game that's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 4: I can't even imagine the scenario where that actually.

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Speaker 2: Happensativity right there.

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Speaker 5: Now we're talking creativity.

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Speaker 2: Especially if you guys, as we talked about this, we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about next that running game. It does

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Speaker 2: give you a little something different in that run game.

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Speaker 7: Now, once he starts to I'm like, okay, too much.

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Speaker 2: Too much, we're just running.

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Speaker 4: They should put like a suggestion box right over there

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Speaker 4: my football side and then people, you know.

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Speaker 7: When you let's have the snack this week, almost a.

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Speaker 4: Snack better, you know you're just sending something in.

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Speaker 6: Food.

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Speaker 5: Walk over and just put some in the box.

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Speaker 7: Activate tree lance.

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Speaker 4: I think that would be fun. I think I think

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Speaker 4: they're fine. I would yeah, I would say the same.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if anything, Dak, I think he picked right

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Speaker 4: off where he left off last year. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it took him like right off the bat. You can

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Speaker 4: tell he had been doing those practices in his backyard

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Speaker 4: and training and all of that, because right off the

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Speaker 4: start of training camp, I mean he didn't miss a beat.

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Speaker 4: Not everything was perfect, absolutely not, that's for sure. There

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Speaker 4: were several days that even against the Rams, you were like, WHOA,

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Speaker 4: what is happening here? But I think he's he's still

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Speaker 4: a very solid guy. And Cooper Rush. To me, he

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Speaker 4: still looks like Cooper Rush that I trust him if

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Speaker 4: anything was to happen, obviously not in the long term form,

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Speaker 4: but for him to step up as a backup, I

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Speaker 4: fully trust.

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Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer challenged all these quarterbacks. Yeah, they challenged him

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Speaker 5: to read, they challenged them to react, and you know,

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Speaker 5: and they and to a man, it was like you

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Speaker 5: could tell there were times they were going through it

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Speaker 5: and it was pretty difficult. So overall, yeah, the group

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Speaker 5: got better. But I like I said that whole thing

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Speaker 5: with Cooper Rush more willingness to throw the ball down

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Speaker 5: the field, I hope that's the guy would get if

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Speaker 5: if and I don't want it to be an if

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Speaker 5: that Dak can't play.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to the running back position. The big

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Speaker 2: loss there being Tony Pollard. But I think, if my

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Speaker 2: memory serves me correct, everybody on this show, and Nick,

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Speaker 2: you were on another show at the time, so I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you fell on this, but I think

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Speaker 2: everybody on this show was okay with the idea as

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Speaker 2: we finished that season that the Cowboys shouldn't move on

563
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Speaker 2: and not pay Tony Pollard big money to be running

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Speaker 2: back here with the Dallas Cowboys. But that being said,

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Speaker 2: they lost Tony Pollard, they did pick up Zeke, and

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Speaker 2: they did pick up here in the last week Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 2: That being said, do you think they're better, worse or

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Speaker 2: the same worse.

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Speaker 7: I gotta see it. I gotta see it at all.

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Speaker 7: I feel like this is the biggest certain on the

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Speaker 7: on the roster right now. After they addressed the defensive

572
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Speaker 7: tackle hole in my eyes, and going and trading for

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Speaker 7: Jordan Phillips and adding Linval Joseph, I'm now looking at

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Speaker 7: the running back position as the biggest red flag. It's

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Speaker 7: just I don't see where they build playmaking ability between

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Speaker 7: the twenties and getting downfield, red zone, different scenario. I

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Speaker 7: think they do get a rushing touchdown before Week ten,

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Speaker 7: I will say that, but I think whenever it's talking

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Speaker 7: about this offense needs a running game to open it up,

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott needs to be able to utilize the play

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Speaker 7: action for him to be at one hundred percent efficiency.

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Speaker 7: I don't see that happening with the current run game

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Speaker 7: situation as it is right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Derek, that show, we did you know we were

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Speaker 5: working on the draft show. We were thinking that we

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Speaker 5: were going to draft again, right, you were like, ah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: get rid of the guy, get rid of. If we'd

588
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Speaker 5: have known that, we'd said, no, Paypollar, keep him. I

589
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Speaker 5: mean I was I was thinking, Man, they got to

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Speaker 5: do something with this running back room. I didn't think

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Speaker 5: it was going to be bringing Ezekiel Elliott back, but

592
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Speaker 5: they did. Uh yeah, I'm on board with Nick here.

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Speaker 5: I do feel like I just don't want the offensive

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Speaker 5: line to have good reps, good snaps, play blocked. Maybe

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Speaker 5: to run eight ten yards and it only goes three

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Speaker 5: or four, you know, just because you're not getting to

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Speaker 5: and through the hole. I say that a lot, but

598
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Speaker 5: that's really what running game is. You get the back

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Speaker 5: in the second level. You get a chance to be

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Speaker 5: a really good running team. And I worry about this

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Speaker 5: team having the ability to do that consistently. The longer

602
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Speaker 5: you have to hold the blocks, the longer these officials

603
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Speaker 5: love to call holding. You know, you get a quick back,

604
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Speaker 5: somebody can hit it, get through there, you brush, you go,

605
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Speaker 5: and the you know, officials let it go. But if

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Speaker 5: you're sitting there, you know, if if tren Steele is

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Speaker 5: on the back side, he's holding, holding, holding and kind

608
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Speaker 5: of gets a hand to pull a guy to keep

609
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Speaker 5: him from getting in on the tackle because Zeke's not

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Speaker 5: to the hole, or or you know, any one of

611
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Speaker 5: these backs aren't to the hole and you get call

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Speaker 5: for holding, You're gonna remember what I said because the

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Speaker 5: longer you have to hold blocks, the more likely you're

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Speaker 5: going to get call for holding.

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Speaker 4: Oh what's it for me? I mean same or words

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Speaker 4: is about the same? Like last year wasn't good to me.

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Speaker 4: So I think with these guys again, you talk about

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Speaker 4: the inconsistency. I've been saying it, and I said it

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Speaker 4: during training camp. I can't really put it, like I

620
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Speaker 4: can't really figure out if it's the line or the

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Speaker 4: running backs or it's a combination of both. That it's

622
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Speaker 4: just not they're not quite there happening. But right now,

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Speaker 4: no one on the team really has shown me that

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Speaker 4: kind of spark and speed. And they all have their

625
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Speaker 4: own thing that they do well, and they all have

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Speaker 4: shown that they do have that speed, but it's just

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Speaker 4: it's not translating onto what we've seen so far. So

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Speaker 4: right now, I'm excited that Seek is back.

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Speaker 7: For sure.

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Speaker 4: I think he looks in very good shape. He looks

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Speaker 4: light in his feet and his footwork. I'm excited to

632
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Speaker 4: see how he comes in and helps, but is it

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Speaker 4: very promising? I I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Me Let me ask you if you say it's the same.

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Speaker 7: Tony Pollard was a thousand yard rushers a year ago.

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Speaker 7: And I know how these two feel about Rico Dowdell.

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Speaker 7: Does that mean that you feel like there there is

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Speaker 7: a running back on the roster right now that could

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Speaker 7: rush for one thousand yards this season if given the opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Why can he be a team effort?

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Speaker 7: You think so?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 2: You think I've been on recognizing it, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's more than I think it's more than a thousand.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a twelve hundred yard back and you

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Speaker 2: can play if.

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Speaker 4: He can't ext for him to stay.

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Speaker 2: That's the key. It's all for me for Rico Dinersto

649
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Speaker 2: being healthy. And you said you hadn't really seen that

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Speaker 2: spark from any of these backs. I think I have

651
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Speaker 2: from Rico Dowdle. I've seen him like that. But the

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Speaker 2: point is he hasn't had the opportunity yet to be

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Speaker 2: the full give me the load running back. And if

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Speaker 2: you can do that, if they give him the load,

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Speaker 2: what does he do with it. Number one, can he

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Speaker 2: consistently be what we've seen him be in spurts and

657
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Speaker 2: can he stay healthy. There's a lot of ifs involved

658
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Speaker 2: in his calculators.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so we're going let's just based off of his

660
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Speaker 7: yards per carry last season at four point one yards

661
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Speaker 7: per carry. If he stays on that same line this year,

662
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Speaker 7: I think from from y'all's perspective, twelve hundred. Yeah, y'all

663
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Speaker 7: think you could take the next step. This is just

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Speaker 7: for a thousand yards. He would need fourteen carries a game,

665
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Speaker 7: more than four.

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Speaker 5: See, that's good. That's that. This art, my conversation that

667
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: we're having here is predicated on them giving him the ball,

668
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Speaker 5: like him becoming the primary back. If he's not the

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Speaker 5: primary back, then then and a decision like that could

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Speaker 5: be made. We've seen that before, Like, well, can't you

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Speaker 5: tell this one guy's averaging four point eight yards of

672
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Speaker 5: carry and the other one's averaging three point eight yards

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Speaker 5: to carry, and they keep giving the ball to the

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Speaker 5: guy keeps carrying the ball three point eight. We're at

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Speaker 5: the mercy of we're at the mercy of carries. An

676
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Speaker 5: injury for that guy, you know it. But if he

677
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Speaker 5: has both I'll bet on it.

678
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Speaker 2: And I think he can do it.

679
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Speaker 4: I'm still in the big in my mind, like is

680
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Speaker 4: the story going to repeat itself of the last two years,

681
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: where like it was Paular be hind Zeke and then

682
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Speaker 4: people asking for Pollard. Then it was Rico behind Poler,

683
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: and then people were asking for Rico and then now

684
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Speaker 4: we really got him. So I just I don't know.

685
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Speaker 4: It's just an interesting concept there and the.

686
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Speaker 2: History of the Cowboys saw it happened with Troy hambric

687
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Speaker 2: Everybody wanted Troy Hambrick in there, and as soon as

688
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Speaker 2: he was in there was like.

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Speaker 5: This, this is There's a lot of bad things you

690
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Speaker 5: can call football players, and I've heard all of them

691
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Speaker 5: in meetings, But the worst thing you can call player,

692
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Speaker 5: I think is a progress stopper. And I hope, I

693
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Speaker 5: hope that gentleman that they brought back is not a

694
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Speaker 5: progress stopper for potentially for Rico Dawdle maybe getting a

695
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Speaker 5: getting that opportunity, you know, because but then also they

696
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: could look at this though and also say, hey, none

697
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Speaker 5: of these guys are gonna work and we're gonna have

698
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Speaker 5: a wide receiver situation like in Week four and we

699
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Speaker 5: got to make a trade. Yeah, we get a trade.

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Speaker 2: My thing is, I think Dalvin Cook is a is

701
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Speaker 2: a really good insurance policy. I think if I with

702
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and if I were making decisions, I would

703
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Speaker 2: go into the season and say, I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: Rico Dowdell the full load. I'm gonna use Zeke in

705
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Speaker 2: short yardist type situations, and I'm gonna sprinkle in a

706
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Speaker 2: little Deuce, little Lipkey do some different things with them.

707
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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna beat Donald's gonna be my primary guy.

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Speaker 2: And in the event that he gets injured, now we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to piece sing together and Dalvin Cook just

710
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Speaker 2: give me one more guy with some experience. I could

711
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Speaker 2: sprinkle in there as I need to do it. But

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Speaker 2: I would go into the season saying, Dallas my guy.

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Speaker 5: I would I said this on the radio one day

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Speaker 5: I would keep Rico Daddle as healthy as possible in

718
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Speaker 5: okay for four and three right now, Week eight, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 15: I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went around for running back. Now we're at

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Speaker 2: wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Now you can't.

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Speaker 2: We've only done we've only done three, only in two.

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Speaker 2: All right, so wide receiver really lost Michael Gallop. That

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Speaker 2: was the only real loss.

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Speaker 15: I guess.

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Speaker 2: On the plus side, Jalen Tolbert Jalen Brooks likely will

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Speaker 2: have increased roles this year. Are they better saying or worse?

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Speaker 7: I think better. I think when you factor in Jalen

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Speaker 7: Tolbert taking this extra level of approach going into year three,

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Speaker 7: the connection that he's been able to have with Dak

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Speaker 7: Prescott over the course of the offseason. You factor that

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Speaker 7: in Jalen Brooks looking really strong and shorthanded at camp,

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Speaker 7: and Cavante Turpin very sneakily had one of the best

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Speaker 7: training camps of any player on the team. So I

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Speaker 7: think if they can find ways to get him more involved,

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Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a much improved unit,

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Speaker 7: and we'll see what kind of opportunities Ryan Flinoy gets

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Speaker 7: the rookie I think he's gonna be one of the

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Speaker 7: inactives at least early in the season. But if he

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Speaker 7: does get his opportunities, I'd love to see what that

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00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 7: looks like too. But you look at what you lost

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Speaker 7: in Michael Gallup and loved what he put forth in

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Speaker 7: that final game against Cream Bay. You know, he definitely

815
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Speaker 7: had a going out party. But I think when you

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Speaker 7: factor that in with what is coming up as far

817
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Speaker 7: as what is improving with Jalen Tolbert, Jalen Brooks, come Turpin,

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Speaker 7: I like this unit a lot better.

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Speaker 5: Flinoyd take Brooks's spot.

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Speaker 7: As in he's wide receiver five and Brooks is six.

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Speaker 7: I don't believe so, I Flinoy, there's still been too

822
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Speaker 7: much inconsistency.

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Speaker 5: Big body blocking that big body playing.

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Speaker 7: I think Brooks could do that too, though.

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Speaker 5: Big body playing on special teams, I think Brooks could

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Speaker 5: do that too.

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Speaker 7: Body with toughness, I think Brooks could do that one too. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not you're paying attention to screw by the way.

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Speaker 4: I'm just.

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Speaker 5: I've senior level of commitment to the bit.

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Speaker 7: Rico Dowdell think is gonna be all year there we go,

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Speaker 7: oh yeah, no doubt every we're gonna have the Rico

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Speaker 7: Dowdell train, Like what's happening with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every week adding all the jar the yards and

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Speaker 4: calculating everything.

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Speaker 7: Maybe Monday morning it'll be like so seventeen yards, two carries.

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Speaker 5: They got better with Tolburt. And this is no disrespect

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Speaker 5: to Gallup, but they Tolbert the work that they got,

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Speaker 5: and you mentioned all those young receivers and stuff to work.

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Speaker 5: I think Tolbert, I think, says me on Twitter the

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Speaker 5: other day, Breakout Player. I said, Tolbert, I think Tolbert's

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Speaker 5: going to show people a lot of things. I think

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Speaker 5: he's I think this These last couple of years have

844
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Speaker 5: been tough on him, but I feel like they watching

845
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 5: him practice every single day, it didn't look too big

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00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: for him and he and it could have been one

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Speaker 5: of him when Brooks battling every day, I just thought

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Speaker 5: Tolbert was a better player. When you watch practice every

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Speaker 5: single day. It started off very equal, and then by

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Speaker 5: the end I was clearly in the camp of Tolbert

851
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 5: being better than Brooks, but Brooks got better as well,

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Speaker 5: just not to the point where he could beat out Tolbert.

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Speaker 4: Right now, yeah, I think they're way better. And Michael Gollip,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you ever recovered from the injury. Is

855
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Speaker 4: just it just never really.

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Speaker 5: Happened until it got hurt too.

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00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is tough to do. It's tough. I mean

858
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: I've never been through that, but I can only imagine.

859
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 4: But I think that all these receivers right now, they

860
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: have such a good chemistry with Dak. I think everyone

861
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: just looks very confident and and very explosive fast, and

862
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Speaker 4: just like they just they know what they're doing and

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Speaker 4: the placement. They just seem like they have the experience.

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Speaker 4: And again it's now what year three for Tobert, right, so.

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Speaker 2: It's still busy, right, this is the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like this. It's like you still in

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Speaker 4: your mind, you're like, oh, well he's still young, but no,

868
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Speaker 4: like this is already you need to do it now.

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Speaker 2: But he looks Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Brooks he's one of those guys. I mean you

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Speaker 4: see him walking around, you don't think much of it,

872
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: and then you see him on the veil and he's

873
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: just like he has such a a vibe, like such

874
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: a good positive charist. So I just I just love

875
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: when things do translate on the field and you just

876
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 4: root for them even more. He's just he's a great guy,

877
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 4: and I love the way he plays and runs.

878
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.

879
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's real quick before we in the show.

880
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: We'll get one more. Let's talk about the tight end position.

881
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: They lost Peyton Hindershot. They get Stevens back from injury,

882
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: which I think most of us going into last year

883
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: before he got hurt, thought he might be a new

884
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: asset for this team. And then obviously the development of

885
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: of Luke's schooon makable factor into this. Are they better,

886
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: worse or the same?

887
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 7: I asked Jake Ferguson a question in the locker room yesterday.

888
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 7: I asked him if they're better or worse? I asked,

889
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 7: the confidence that you're able to bring from the year

890
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 7: that you had last year, does that make you a

891
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 7: more confident player going into this season than you were

892
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 7: going into last season? Knowing already that he is a

893
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 7: confident player, and he said, without a doubt. And I

894
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 7: think looking at that, looking at the connection answer, well,

895
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 7: I mean you could say, like, no, my confidence has

896
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 7: always been the same. It's always been, you know, you know,

897
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 7: along the same line. And honestly, I kind of expected

898
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 7: that kind of answer, like I approach the same every day,

899
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 7: the same, I'm gonna be confident regardless. But he was like, no,

900
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 7: without a doubt, I am more confident going into this year.

901
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 7: So I think I think with that, I think understanding

902
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 7: his connection with with Dak and understanding as well, getting

903
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 7: John Stevens back from injury, getting Luke scoon Maker back

904
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 7: from a couple of injuries. I think this unit is

905
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 7: going to be better. But I believe in that because

906
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 7: of the guy up top, Jake Ferguson. I think he's

907
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 7: gonna have, without a doubt, Pro Bowl season. I think

908
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 7: he's gonna knock it on the door for all Pro

909
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna have one of those years.

910
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look right at that camera right there, that

911
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 5: camera right there, span Ford, eyes are on you man.

912
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: That was a surprise. That was a surprise edition right

913
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 5: there on that roster.

914
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

915
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: And I actually he played better the last couple of

916
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 5: weeks of training camp. Some things kind of improved for him.

917
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: Again because of how big he is. I I'm just

918
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: kind of thinking that this is one of those times

919
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 5: where this cowboy tied end. Every year it seems like

920
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 5: I get mad at one of them and then they

921
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 5: block me on Twitter, and then they turn in two

922
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: years later being like a really good player. They span

923
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 5: Ford's bonus and all that stuff. It's nice and all

924
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: it's but there was you know, there was some protecting

925
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 5: going on right there with that guy, because I think

926
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 5: there was. If you sat down and we all watched

927
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: tape together, we would go, oh, that wasn't very good,

928
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe the first couple of games, but

929
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 5: then there was some things that kind of improved at him.

930
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: But you know what for him to hold a roster

931
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: spot on you bro.

932
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 15: Better, we're saying, not facy.

933
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: It was hilarious. I mean to me, it's about the same.

934
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: I mean, everything's about the same. But no, and I

935
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: think it is a solid maker.

936
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 5: I gotta give up on some I gotta I gotta

937
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 5: go somewhere in the big ten to yell at somebody here.

938
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 5: I can't yell at Scoon Maker anymore.

939
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: I think it is a solid group. And we know

940
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: that that's one position that Dak tends to rely a

941
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 4: lot on and it's like his comfort spot, comfort zone

942
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: right there. But look scoon Maker. He's a guy that

943
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: I got to give him credit and shout outs to

944
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: him because he has been put it in the work.

945
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes he has something new pop up as an injury,

946
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 4: and then he's dealing with that. That's a problem. But

947
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: to me it is impressive because sometimes I see him

948
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: how he walks and all that, and he looks so stiff,

949
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 4: and in my mind, I'm like, but then he plays

950
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: and he will make those athletic plays. And I think

951
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 4: he has a very good size. His height I think

952
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: does help him in some scenarios and situations. But I

953
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: do see him improving. I think he's going better, and

954
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: that's because he's been working. But again, the injuries have

955
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: kind of stopped him from certain things.

956
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: Real quick question the room, real quick power. Rank your

957
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 5: tight ends in.

958
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 7: Order, Ferguson, Stevens, Schoonmaker, span Ford exactly same.

959
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: Steven Stevens clearly my number two, Steven number two, That's

960
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

961
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: And the big thing about it was I was and

962
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: maybe that's.

963
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 5: Why they might be better because Steven's improving over what

964
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: you've seen from the last year.

965
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: And I think the big thing was him improving as

966
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: a as a blocker, Like that's because you thought we

967
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: knew he could catch the ball, we could get out

968
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: and get opens. Yeah, he's gotten better as a blocker,

969
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: and I think that's what made him for me make

970
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: that jump into that number two.

971
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 7: Such an upgrade over hender shot. It's such an upgrade. Yeah,

972
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 7: such an upgrade.

973
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: All right, that's a wrap for us. We were back

974
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: to daily shows, so we'll be back tomorrow eleven o'clock.

975
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna start getting into the matchup Cowboys versus Browns.

976
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: O'Brian will have the Browns offense versus Cowboys defense tomorrow.

977
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: We'll do the flip on Thursday, and then on Friday

978
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: we'll get you ready with our picks for the game.

979
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Till then for Nick Harris, Brian brought us Amber Garcia.

980
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 15: I'm Derek.

981
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot

982
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Comrey you.

983
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,960
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984
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,040
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