1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm not going to Stephane. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Never told your protection if I heart radio in this 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: episode is gonna be a little different. Just so you know. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: This episode is sponsored by twenty three and Me And 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: as always when it comes to companies and programs like these, 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: make sure you're reading the fine print, know your options 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: and your rights, and keep informed. Yes, definitely, I think 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: it's a good take on all the things, as I'm 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: signing many of papers right now for many other things. 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: But yes, I know your rights and things do change, 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: so understand your rights, keep informed and updated on all 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: of it. Yes, that's the first morning. We also have 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: a content morning mentions of childhood trauma and overall discussions 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: of health and wellness. It's uh, we're not gonna go 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: too deep into them, but yes, I'm getting really personal y'all. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm ers, So thank you Annie for giving me 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: the space. Oh no, thanks for being open with us. 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Yeah, so it is a 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: fairly special and uh, fairly personal episode. Again, this is 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: what we do, right, I feel comfortable you can feel 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: comfortable and sharing these things with our people's. Yes, perhaps 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: too comfortable. Something we just let it all out and 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: are still so patient with us, so thank you. But 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: we are taking a moment to look into our own 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: health traits and DNA specifically mine. But again, before we 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: talk about some of the information, let's talk about how 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: we got ready for this episode. And I say we 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: because Annie was absolutely pivotal to me going should I 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: do this? Do you think I'm mentally healthy enough to 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: do this? And will you support me? Yes? Yes, I 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: hope you know. Listeners, Smith and I are legit friends, um, 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: and we do look out for each other and we 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: do take that seriously because we know that, you know, 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: you can really do yourself some harm in this kind 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: of medium when you're you're being so open and you're 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: digging up these things. Um. And our very first thing 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: that we started out doing was this mini series on trauma, right, 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: and we hadn't like our check ins and making sure 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: like both of us are okay and that we're not 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: doing ourselves harm um by being open with this. So 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: this it was very important to me, and because I 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: knew you were interested in it, and I know you'll 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: talk about why uh in a minute, but it was 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: very important to me to be like, okay, if you're 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: gonna do this, What is our game plan, whatever we 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: gonna do to make sure that this is going to 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: be a healthy, non traumatizing experience for you. And yeah, 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: as in fact, when I would take the test and 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: send it off, we would do a check in with 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: each other. When I got the results, we did a 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: check in, and then you checked in again with me 52 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: about a day later, like how are you. I don't 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: even know what it was day later, like a few 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: hours later, and how are you? And I think that's 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: really important for us to talk about because many of 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: you already know when it comes to my identity, I 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of trauma surrounding it. As in fact, 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: that was part of my therapy session I had when 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: we did our Trauma mini series when I started on 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: this podcast. And it's not unusual for adoptees, especially transracial adoptees, 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: to seek out more information of their biological family um 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of abandonment and attachment issues that 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: come along with it. And with the advancements of these 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: types of results and companies, people are able to dig 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: a little bit for information when it comes to their ancestry, 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: their family and possible health traits. We've talked about personal 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: experiences previously when we talked with author Nicole Chung about 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: her memoir all we can ever know, and for myself, 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: a part of that journey has to include protecting my 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: mental and emotional health. And uh, we all know therapy 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: is something we talk about a lot on here and all, 72 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: So to go ahead and put this cafaat therapy is 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: a privilege, but it is important to see get out 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: if you can, UM. And also finding a good therapist 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and finding a therapist that you specializes in what you 76 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: need very very important, very important, UM. And I will 77 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: tell you I did choose a therapist. If you all 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: remember when we did our Trauma Many series, that was 79 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: one of the big things that we started out with 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: as well, that both Annie and I would have therapeutic 81 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: sessions so that we could discuss the really heavy topics 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: that we were talking about at that point in time. 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: And Annie, I think you're still talking to that therapist, correct, M. Yes, 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: we loved her, and uh I stepped back a little 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: bit because I got too busy, I didn't have enough 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: money all those things. So I came back, UM and 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: researched a new therapist whom I found through the world 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: of interwebs M, who is actually a transnational adoptee herself. 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: So I'm very glad to hear this as she specializes 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: in childhood trauma, is a woman of color. I believe 91 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: she's Korean as well, so all of these check marks 92 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: that I found. We had a beginning session and we 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: had a phone conversation. Um, and everything is fit and aligned, 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: and it was really nice and different to have a 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: moment to be able to talk about my identity issues 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: and her to fully understand and to kind of call 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: it out because a lot of the times I've had 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: many therapist who would be like, oh, man, that's hard, 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: how did you react to that? Try to figure out 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: how to respond to me? And because she kind of understood, 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: she knew how to So it was really interesting or refreshing. 102 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: And it's a whole new turn for me because I've 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: not had uh an Asian woman being my therapists. I've 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: had a black woman, and then I've had a lot 105 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: of white women who are my therapist, and so this 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: is this is definitely a different experience and UM, I'm 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: interested to see how far we can go. But yeah, 108 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing a lot of unpacking and trauma work. 109 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: But I did also let her know the very beginning, Hey, 110 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing a thing with DNA reports, and I know 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: this could be triggering for me because there's a lot 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: of what ifs in my head that I've been able 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: to kind of ignore, but with these I it gives 114 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 1: me a way to research deeper. So we talked about 115 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: that and why we're doing this. Yeah, I'm very curious, 116 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: and I was very curious. But also with that, I 117 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: knew that I had trauma and triggers and I needed 118 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: to recognize those as well. And uh, and the reason 119 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about this and you're the one 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: who came to and I think sent me an article 121 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: talking about how it can be traumatizing to discover new information. Yes, 122 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: so that can come from this types of reports, and 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: I was very grateful. It's like, oh dang, yeah, that's true. 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: And so we wanted to talk about and highlight that 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: it is important to put yourself in a good place 126 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: m so that it doesn't break you down right right 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: and where you know, as we and saying, we're very 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: big proponents of that because I think for a lot 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: of people they might not consider that aspects of of 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: getting a DNA report. And it's not like more information 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: is good, but just being prepared that there could be 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: things that you find out or that possibly possibilities that 133 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: you're made aware of that maybe you weren't prepared for 134 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: and maybe it can be maybe it would be something 135 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: that's sharing for you. So just like making sure, yes, 136 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you're in that good place where you've got a plan 137 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: in place, you've got a friend to support you or 138 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: have your back, um, because you know, we're all about 139 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: supporting women, supporting women and being there for each other um. 140 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: And we also are just very aware of like potential 141 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: triggers and traumas. On the show, I feel like we 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: talked about it quite often, right, and it's important because 143 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: we've experienced it and sometimes having a name for what 144 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: you're going through without realizing it is nice to be like, 145 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: oh again because I do recognize my triggers. Um able 146 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: to prepare so big events and discoveries can undo some 147 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: things for me, and therefore being able to recognize, like 148 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: the physical tills, it's really important to prepare. And I 149 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: say prepare in a big ways, but yeah, information like 150 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: this can give you a chance to take control of 151 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: a few things, whether you're made aware of things, um, 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: how you proceed with things, just overall life things. I 153 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: guess for me specifically, um, and we're gonna talk a 154 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: little more about it in a second. But I made 155 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: some headway in discovering a little history about my past, 156 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: including getting in contact with possible family members, distant relatives possibly, 157 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: so a lot of things and that could be traumatizing, 158 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: especially for me. Yes, yes, yes that's who we know. 159 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's a way that I did want 160 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: to prepare and would tell people who are doing these 161 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: types of reports, uh to to be aware uh of 162 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: triggers and and be having a plan in place, whether 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: it's to go to a supportive friend, taking breaks, taking 164 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: naps because I love naps and stuff like that is 165 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: really important y'all. It's uh. I did get my report 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: and going through it, it kind of made me laugh. 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Going through it kind of made me laugh again. Like 168 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: I said, I've been interested to learn about my background, 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: about digging into what can be emotionally taxing, but you know, 170 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to find out a little more, get some 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: healthy information, um, and get a kind of a start 172 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: of some of the things that I had no clue, 173 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: so I have no access to you all know. I 174 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: am a Korean adoptee. Came into the U S when 175 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: I was seven, lived in an orphanage for two to 176 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: three years. I don't have a lot of information other 177 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: than the information that was brought with me and given 178 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: to my parents. I can't even remember the orphanage I 179 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: was in. I'm sure my parents have that information. I 180 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: was adopted through Wholt International, and Whole International is the 181 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: biggest adoption agency within Korea, as in fact, a majority 182 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: of people probably were adopted through Holt International. And just 183 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: for a little history on who hold International Services were, 184 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: it was created by Bertha and Harry Holt, who actually 185 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: adopted eight what they call war orphans themselves. So during 186 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: this time, there are a lot of children out in 187 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the streets, as historically said, because they were by racial 188 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: usually white soldiers with Korean women, and that brought a 189 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: lot of shame. There was a lot of factors to 190 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: this um and so you saw a lot of orphans, 191 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: young kids, young children, and they adopted eight and from 192 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: that kind of just grew into a large service that 193 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: grew internationally. A huge amount of adoptees went to Norway, 194 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: did Mark, Belgium, the Netherlands, France, Switzerland, and Germany and 195 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: eventually into the US. We know, a lot of Western 196 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: Christianity and religion kind of popped into play as well. 197 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: And it was during this time up until I would 198 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: say the nineteen nineties, that international adoption like that, trans 199 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: racial adoption like that, was huge, and from what I gather, 200 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: was a pretty big money market for South Korea. Of course, 201 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of backlash now there's a bigger conversation 202 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: about that and and the trauma that it has caused. 203 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: There's also this idea that a majority of the adoptees 204 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: were young girls or girls or baby girls because the 205 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: lineage and um the patriarch essentially kind of Trump's matriarchal 206 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: lines and apparently can't be as traced when it comes 207 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: to legacies and inheritances and such, so hold all these things. 208 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Apparently there was this whole print in what was called 209 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: the Pound Pup Legacy that was written in The Progressive, 210 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: which was an article I think based in South Korea, 211 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: talking about a lot of the effects and everything that happened, 212 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: even talking about there was a city supply of healthy 213 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: children being shipped to these different these different countries. There's 214 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: also the same conversation and we've talked about it before 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: when we talked about surrogacy, where women were told that 216 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: they were just going to be cared for at these 217 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: orphanages and then kind of tricked into signing over rights. 218 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of conversation. I know we've heard 219 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that with Nicole Chung. She had a little conversation about 220 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: how not everyone was informed on what happened, and that 221 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: happened a lot in in these kind of agencies. They're 222 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: trying to do a lot more transparency when it comes 223 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: to adoptions, but still a lot of questions, uh, and 224 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things that had happened in the past 225 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: where people can't reconnect. I will say I believe Holt 226 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: International had a service for adopted because who grow up 227 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: and want to find out about their families and having 228 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: them travel back to South Korea. I don't have a 229 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: distinct memory when I was in the orphanage of an 230 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: older woman, a young woman coming back with her adopted 231 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: parents to visit the orphanage and kind of looking back 232 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: on her history. So that was interesting. I have very 233 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: little memories. I remember her showing up and everybody being 234 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: very excited about that. Within that culture also was a 235 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: really kind of sad uh which that I kind of 236 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: believed is that whole like these girls, if they weren't adopted, 237 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: they would go into prostitution. That was the immediate reaction. 238 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: And so we were being saved from a world of prostitution. 239 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: And not that that couldn't happen, but it was such 240 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: a cautionary tale that was told to white Americans to 241 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: save children that it became a whole persona And for me, 242 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: I grew up hearing that, like, be grateful, be grateful 243 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: because you could have lasted this way. And don't get 244 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: me wrong, in that orphanage, I remember a lot of 245 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: young girls who are aging out, kind of a lot 246 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: like the foster system here in the US. They were 247 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: just aging out and no one was helping them. The 248 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: government wasn't helping them, the people were not connecting people 249 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: with them. Of worse, it could be also that you know, 250 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: these young kids have been traumatized in the system and 251 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: just want to be out, and so they try to 252 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: rush out. So it was very interesting to look at 253 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: that history. But with that type of history. That also 254 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: means things get lost in translation, so we would lose 255 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: a lot of records. I was told that I did 256 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: have chickenpox vaccine, that I actually did have measles at 257 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: one point in time, um, and that that was about it, 258 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: and like, and I was told that my parents were 259 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: divorced um and I was not allowed to live with 260 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: my stepfather, so they gave me to my grandmother because 261 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: my stepfather, my real biological father, was not able to 262 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: care for me. And then after that she took me 263 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: to the orphanage because she couldn't care for me either. 264 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: So those are the things that I remember distinctly as 265 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: being told my history. But outside of that, I don't 266 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: have anything. I don't know. I have a picture of 267 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: what I thought was my brother, but again I have 268 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: in and out dreams that are not necess necessarily true. 269 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: All these things um that came with me. So having 270 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: this kind of breakdown was interesting. So let me talk 271 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: about that, because now that I've giving you the sad 272 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: history of adoption in my life, and everybody wants to 273 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: think about that. So according to my twenty three and 274 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: me Ancestry Composition Report, I am one that Korean or 275 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: at least very highly likely, and according to the rundown 276 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: of the report, it really says Korean. So I don't 277 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: know if you've been able to look at these reports 278 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: or view these reports. It has kind of a color 279 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: wheel and it tells you kind of be a breakdown 280 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: of ancestry or DNA right down. Of course, it changes 281 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: apparently with more and more people get reports or take 282 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: on the twenty three and me and actually sitting in 283 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: their kit um. So the overall breakdown was interesting and 284 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: made me take a deeper look at my own history. 285 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: So with the way it breaks down, it shows me 286 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: the different administration of regions. So it says, quote, South 287 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Korea has sixteen administrative regions, and we found the strongest 288 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: evidence of your ancestry in the following nine regions. So 289 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the top five is one is Soul, second is three 290 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: is Jeli num Do, and then four is Bussan, and 291 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: then and then five is So it's really interesting. I 292 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: did like reading these and now I want to go 293 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: and research it more because those regions are not so 294 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: of course I know Soul. I also know Bussan. I 295 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: was told Signam City and I think that's in the 296 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: region of Soul. So I'm interested in seeing that to 297 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: be able to see those regions um as well. And 298 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: like I said, I did try to contact someone who's 299 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: like fifth removed cousin because I found out they were 300 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: adopted as well, and they live in the States. So 301 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: there's a chunk of people that live in the States. 302 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: And several of the people that I went through that 303 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: had connections or it shows as possible relatives for me 304 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: that has that list. Uh, several of them were adopted, 305 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: so that says a lot to me, and I didn't 306 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: understand the history behind that, and I want to learn 307 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: more because I'm like, wow, uh, this seems to be 308 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: so common. I wonder why. And so there's a whole breakdown. 309 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: Of course, I also did my cyberstalking and went through 310 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: like Facebook trying to find them. Instagram LinkedIn was a 311 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: big one, um, but I just reached out to the 312 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: one person because it turned out she and I had 313 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: been adopted the same year, and I really kind of 314 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: wanted to see if we could connect. Haven't made it 315 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: beyond that other than we shared each other like as 316 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: in like we confirmed and I guess you can friend them. 317 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: It's the best way I can think of it as 318 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: like in Facebook you can friend them and so I 319 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see, but it's there and there's an 320 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: option there, and it was nice to know that I 321 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: had an option with that. So listeners, if I go beyond, 322 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: I'll let you know, yes. But uh so, moving on, 323 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: we want to talk about the help and Trades reports. 324 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: And I didn't know it exactly to expect since my 325 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: background and my ancestry is a big mystery for me. 326 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: But looking through the reports, I was mildly surprised. Um 327 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: And just for reference, in the in the reports, the 328 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: way it's phrased, when you see it, it's it is 329 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: quote variants not detected, typical likelihood, slightly increased risk, and 330 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: increased likelihood. So that's kind of how they report it. 331 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: So in my report, type two diabetes was at an 332 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: increased likelihood with it being at range, so it gives 333 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: you kind of a range of compared to others how likely, 334 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: and also states with it that overall it can depend 335 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: on different factors, which is always important to remember because 336 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: for me, I get my yearly physical exam with the 337 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: blood works. Of course that helps our insured stuff. Um, 338 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: and I know that I'm in a good place right now, 339 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: we will definitely have to keep a close watch on 340 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: it because things change and your age and that all 341 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: factors in as well. And it's also worth noting that 342 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: according to the c d C, for women, quote, diabetes 343 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: increases the risk of heart disease, the most common diabetes complication, 344 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: by about four times, and women but only about two times. 345 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: And men and women are also at a higher risk 346 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: of other diabetes related complications such as blindness, kidney disease, 347 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: and depression. Right. I didn't actually know those statistics until 348 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: after I started my research. I was like, Okay, let's 349 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: see what this is about. I wanted to dig deeper 350 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and just being able to get and attain this information 351 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: as good and I was like, oh wow, I didn't 352 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that women were higher risk. I feel 353 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: like there's other factors that wouldn't talk about in that, 354 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: but you know, we'll get to that later. Um. And again, 355 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: it also says in the City City Report that it's 356 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: quote different among women African American, Hispanic, Latina, American, Indian, 357 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: Alaska Native, and Asian Pacific Islander women are more likely 358 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: to have diabetes than white women, which, of course, being 359 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: an Asian woman that's good for me to know. Yes, yes, 360 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: indeed yeah. UM. Also in that increased likelihood category was 361 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: coronary artery disease, which Minty has talked about before as 362 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: it can present differently in women UM than men, but 363 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: also started to remember according to the CDC quote, heart 364 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: disease is sometimes thought of as a man's disease. Almost 365 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: as many women as men die each year of heart 366 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: disease in the United States. UM, and not knowing my history, 367 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: that is something that I definitely want to keep in check. 368 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: And I'm glad to know of this because at right 369 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: now again, everything was great with my blood work this year, 370 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: but things change swiftly, things change, and when it comes 371 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: to health wise, so I want to know these things 372 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: and so being able to be informed of that feels 373 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: like I'm winning. I don't know, and for many the 374 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: br C A one or the breast cancer gene and 375 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: br C A two can be alarming as it stays 376 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: on the twenty three Many reports UH specific genetic variants, 377 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and the br C A one and b r C 378 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: A two genes are associated with increased risks of developing 379 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: certain cancers, including breast cancer in women and men, and 380 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: ovarian cancer. And also they do have a great disclaimer 381 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: about this, and I don't I do want to read 382 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: it off. The twenty three and me b r C 383 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: A one and b r C A two Genetic Health 384 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Risk Report is intended for use in adults to report 385 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: three genetic variants in the b r C A one 386 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: and b r C A two genes associated with a 387 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: higher risk of developing breasts, ovariant and prostate cancer. Report 388 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: does not include variants and other genes linked to hereditary cancers. 389 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Not intendant to diagnose any disease or tell you about 390 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: your overall risk of developing a disease. Not intended to 391 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: be used to determine any treatments, and results should be 392 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: confirmed in clinical settings before taking any medical action. And 393 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: it's not a substitute for visits to healthcare professionals for 394 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: recommended screens or appropriate follow up, which I think is 395 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: really really crucial to know. Again, this is not a 396 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: tool for you to just bank your decisions on, but 397 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: just the way for you to be like, let me 398 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: go check this out and get more information. I think 399 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: it's smart for any and all of these traits being reported, 400 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: even though it's a likelihood that yes, I still will 401 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: go and check it out with a doctor, just as 402 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: a reminder and for me myself. The report showed zero 403 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: variants detected, but again a good reminder from the report. However, 404 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: more than a thousand variants in the b r C 405 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: A one and b r C A two genes are 406 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: known to increase cancer risk, so you can still have 407 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: a variant not included in this test. In addition, most 408 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: cases of breast and A variant cancers are not caused 409 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: by inherited variants, so women without a variant are still 410 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: at risk of developing these cancers. It's important to continue 411 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: with any cancer screenings your health care provider recommends. And yes, 412 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I will absolutely be going to my screenings. What it's 413 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: time to squish the boobies, that's how I see it. 414 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: If they say the technical term, I'm pretty sure yes. 415 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: And as you said, I think, you know, being informed 416 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: and getting that more information and being clear on what 417 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: that information means is so key. My family does have 418 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: a history of breast cancer, so the women in our 419 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: family especially are always like make sure you get tested 420 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: and make sure you do this, and make sure you 421 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: check for this, and kind of having that in the 422 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: back of my mind that it is something that I 423 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: need to keep an eye on, and I think that 424 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: is incredibly important right as we all should. So these 425 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: were some of the hell things that we did want 426 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: to talk about and that came up when I did 427 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: get my report. But there's some other interesting things I 428 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: note from this report, uh the wellness report in the 429 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: case that I am likely to flush as an alcohol 430 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: flush reaction. So, uh, this is not news to me, 431 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: as I discovered this when I first started drinking, and 432 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, what is happening? And I had 433 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: to research about what was happening, and I was like, 434 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: this is this is really mean of my genetics to 435 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: tell on me. So I was like, okay, they okay, 436 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: this one's okay. And then the next one was a 437 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: muscle composition. So it's common an elite power athletes. I 438 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: really wish someone would let my muscles know that this 439 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: is supposedly something that is a trait. And the report 440 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: states quote studies have found that almost all elite power athletes, 441 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: including sprinters, throwers, and jumpers, have a specific genetic variant 442 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: in a gene related to muscle composition. You have to 443 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: say genetic variant as these athletes. That is not obvious 444 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: to me, and I'm very sad that I can't say 445 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: that's an obvious to me. I really wish it were, 446 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm just gonna glow about it anyway, 447 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: even though it's not physically seeing here. Um And according 448 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: to the trade report, I am quite more likely to 449 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: be able to match a musical pitch, more likely than 450 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: average to have had a bunyan, more likely than average 451 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: to be afraid of heights. It is very true, likely 452 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: bitten by mosquitoes more often than others. This explains a 453 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: lot between you and I any and likely to wake 454 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: up around seven a m. I have not put that 455 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: to the test, but I kind of want to check 456 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: and see if I feel better for some reason. But 457 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: you know whatever, I thought those are all very interesting. 458 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: They're very specific, and I want to know more. And 459 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: they all made me laugh a little bit and giggle 460 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. And also it makes me feel superior 461 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: to have said I may have had a bunion more 462 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: before you. It makes you feel you know what, So 463 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: there you go. This has given me a lot to 464 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: think about. It has been really interesting to read and 465 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: has led me to do some more research for the 466 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: sake of my health and my ancestry. And I'm glad 467 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: to have had this information on hand. And yeah, yeah, 468 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: I keep digging and as in fact, I got a 469 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: new alert from twenty three and me and saying that, hey, 470 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: here's another trait you might not know about. So it 471 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: keeps updating, I believe, as it continues with other kids 472 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: being sent in. So I'll keep you informed of anything new. Yes, 473 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: please do. And thank you for sharing this with us, 474 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: letting me oh so much love, so much love on 475 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: this show. Well, listeners, if you have any thoughts about 476 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: what we talked about today, you can always email us. 477 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: You know we love to hear from you. Our email 478 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Stuff Media mom Stuff at i heeart video dot com. 479 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast 480 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: or on Instagram as stuff I Never Told You. Thanks 481 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: as always to our super producer Christina. Thank you Christina, 482 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening Stuff I Never Told You. 483 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: Protection of I Heart Radio for more podcast on my 484 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: Heart Radio because the heart Radio app, Apple podcast or 485 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: Ready listen to your favorite shows.