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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we might have to make

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Speaker 1: it in the top one hundred and two free agents

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I am Greg Roosevelt.

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Speaker 1: I am here in Indianapolis at the Scouting Combine, in

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Speaker 1: a half full convention center where everyone is setting up

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Speaker 1: for the big day where it starts tomorrow, and I

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Speaker 1: am joined for the first time on NFL Daily, excited

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Speaker 1: to do so with Tom Pelisero, our insider at NFL

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Speaker 1: Network alongside Ian Rapaport.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Hey, Happy to be here, Glad that I

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Speaker 3: get to make my debuts.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you live and in person.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's always fun to get to get out

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Speaker 3: of the basement studio and see people.

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Speaker 1: It is nice to do that. And yes, you are

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Speaker 1: kind of the yin to Rapaports.

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Speaker 2: Yang.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been here at the NFL for over

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Speaker 1: a decade. I've seen the rise of Palasaro. How is

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Speaker 1: everything going just with you and rap Sheet because that

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Speaker 1: that's a tricky relationship to work, outsider.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we we kind of find, along with Mike, you know,

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Speaker 3: ways that we can, you know, be able to stave

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Speaker 3: off the fights. Like if you've noticed in the past

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Speaker 3: month there's a lot of sources tell the Insiders or

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Speaker 3: per the Insiders, or the tweets, and that was a

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Speaker 3: catch all that came out of Okay, went in down,

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Speaker 3: just say that and we'll fight over credit later. I

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Speaker 3: suppose how'd you leave me off? So we were trying

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Speaker 3: to like stave off those fights. I think it's gone

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Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, per the Insiders, that's the backstory

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Speaker 3: on that is it's just to keep me from strangling.

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Speaker 1: So you are are joining us on a big day

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Speaker 1: in uh NFL Daily in the off season, which is

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Speaker 1: the day uh NFL dot com releases my top one

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Speaker 1: oh one free agents. I put a lot by the way,

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Speaker 1: say I said the other day on during the production

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Speaker 1: call for The Insiders, I'm like, is Greg's list all

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, then what are we supposed to put

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Speaker 3: on the graphics? You're the you're the oracle of these

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Speaker 3: are the names?

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Speaker 1: Well they're out there now and so you can check

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Speaker 1: that out on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 2: And I thought you you will.

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Speaker 1: Know this list and the players and the agents and

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Speaker 1: the values better than anyone.

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Speaker 2: So I was excited to have you on for that.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, by the way, we might have to go

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Speaker 2: And now I noticed PFF made there's one on one two.

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Speaker 1: something you spoke about on the Riche Eisen Show on Friday.

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Speaker 3: necessarily conducive to tweet format. Yes, this was one of

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Speaker 3: So there's sometimes is this dance and you're negotiating a

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Speaker 3: To make progress in terms of if you are going

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Speaker 1: Of the later this week will be really interesting. And no,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you brought brought it up with

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Speaker 3: I thought maybe I'd nerge in Matthew sabertext it's no,

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Speaker 1: And that's harsh. So Stafford, it's fascinating to me. It

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Speaker 1: really does seem like it's about money and there's always

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Speaker 3: the Giant should be a possibility. You keeping your way

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Speaker 3: not something they're going to do. But that's the spot

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Speaker 3: another one. I think the Matthew Stafford and Pittsburgh would

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Speaker 3: the caliber quarterbacks in the division, But is that a

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Speaker 3: It's not exactly New York or Vegas when you're coming

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Speaker 3: told based on what he's doing in terms of his

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Speaker 3: combine training, like he's testing like he might test like

437
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Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker. He's a little bit taller than Trayvon Walker,

438
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Speaker 3: who what number one overall ahead of Aidan Hutchinson in

439
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Speaker 3: the draft not that long ago. Based largely on the

440
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Speaker 3: testing numbers, I think that he's he's definitely one to watch.

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Speaker 3: And then I'll give you a forty yard blazer. Maxwell Harston,

442
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Speaker 3: the corner from Kentucky, super engaging, bright dude that.

443
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Speaker 2: I've talked to. Could really play.

444
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Speaker 3: But he's also like he's legit, fast, fast, and it's

445
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Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see what he runs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no one expected Xavier Worthy to go first round

447
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Speaker 1: at this time last year. Yeah, we haven't gotten too

448
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Speaker 1: deep into the prospect. But Shamar Stewart's really interesting. I

449
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Speaker 1: like hearing how different evaluators talk about him. Daniel Jeremiah,

450
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Speaker 1: I know he put it, but his top fifty check

451
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Speaker 1: that out today. In terms of prospects, SamArt Stewart is

452
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth. Like he is a guy who's going to

453
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Speaker 1: get compared to Treyvon Walker because of the low sack

454
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Speaker 1: total and he's just a physical freak. But there are

455
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Speaker 1: people that say, like, this guy really doesn't know how

456
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Speaker 1: to play football very well. Yet, which I don't think

457
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Speaker 1: they were saying about Trayvon Walker, like he is someone

458
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Speaker 1: that is the ultimate, Like it's gonna be a test

459
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Speaker 1: of do you draft the guy just off of measurements

460
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Speaker 1: or not? Like he could go anywhere from the top

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Speaker 1: ten to the second round, and there are people that

462
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Speaker 1: will say, like, man, maybe it'll happen, but he like

463
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Speaker 1: doesn't really know how to play yet, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of now.

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Speaker 3: Will McDonald was in a category of his own, like

466
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Speaker 3: the dude who would jump over cars from Iowa State

467
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Speaker 3: and it was like is he a one? Is he

468
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Speaker 3: like a he going the second and he went like

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Speaker 3: to the Jets at what eighteenth overall or so?

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Speaker 2: It was like a no. Thirteenth overall?

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Speaker 3: He went very high in that draft, Like that might

472
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Speaker 3: be the type of guy you get with with Schamar Stewart.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Will McDonald's gotten better as we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, enough, you know, preamble here, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: top one oh one free agents of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could still mess around and just keep

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Speaker 1: changing the rankings. I am someone that understands this is

478
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Speaker 1: a fun exercise. It's just opinion, and then it changed

479
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Speaker 1: so much on a daily basis that it would continue

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Speaker 1: to change if I was allowed to keep changing. But

481
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Speaker 1: now it's locked in. My editors say I cannot change it.

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Speaker 1: Here are the top ten free agents. I'm not gonna

483
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Speaker 1: go through all one on one of four two. I

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Speaker 1: will do the top ten, the top ten. T Higgins,

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Speaker 1: who we think is gonna get franchise, Tag will not

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Speaker 1: get the free agency Barnes surprise, Yeah, yes, clearly never

487
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Speaker 1: could get traded. Trey Smith. I have already gotten some

488
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Speaker 1: pushback on this. Number two. Milton Williams three, who had

489
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Speaker 1: a great playoff run with the Eagles. A lot of

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Speaker 1: Eagles up top, Ronnie Stanley four, Zach Bond coming off

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Speaker 1: a career year at number five, Sam Darnold at six,

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Speaker 1: Osa Adigie Zua at number seven, Josh Sweat from the

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Speaker 1: Eagles at eight, Chris Godwin at nine, and Carlton Davis

494
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Speaker 1: starts off a run of cornerbacks. Tarvarius Ward and DJ

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Speaker 1: Reid are the next two guys on my list.

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Speaker 3: In the top twelve, there's a bunch of top corners.

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Speaker 3: I think that I looked at the list. I think

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Speaker 3: that you know in general terms, like you're you're on

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Speaker 3: it here. Tray Smith will be interesting because if the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs don't franchise tag him, does that kind of signal

501
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Speaker 3: then are they not as fired up about him as

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Speaker 3: other teams might be looking at him. I mean, there's

503
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Speaker 3: not a lot of guards, there's not a lot of

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Speaker 3: offensive linement. There's not a lot of offensive players. With

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Speaker 3: the year of Ronnie Stanley, with his injury history in

506
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Speaker 3: the top five on the list. He was healthy this year,

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Speaker 3: but he had missed a ton of time over the

508
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Speaker 3: last the previous two or three seasons. But I'm with you,

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Speaker 3: I mean it would not be a surprise if he

510
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Speaker 3: ends up being the top paid tackle. Zach Martin's retirement

511
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Speaker 3: took another option where Zach Barton wanted to play. Somebody

512
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Speaker 3: would give him fifteen million dollars to you know, come in.

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Speaker 3: I think that you know one of the interesting things.

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Speaker 3: And this probably speaks to the perception within the league

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Speaker 3: about the quality of the free agent class. Those names,

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Speaker 3: those are your top ten free agents here. It's not

517
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Speaker 3: as gan, but also think how few franchise tags are

518
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Speaker 3: even possible off that list. I mean, he is going

519
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Speaker 3: to get it if they can't work out a deal,

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Speaker 3: which we'll see how that plays out, But it seems

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Speaker 3: like the tag is coming for him, Trey Smith. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's at least a possibility that the Chiefs could potentially

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Speaker 3: explore Sam Donald. You can't rule out him getting tagged

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Speaker 3: at this point. Yeah, that could be a tag to sign,

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Speaker 3: That could be a tag in trade, that could be tagging.

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Speaker 3: An hour later, he's in the parking lot signing it

527
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Speaker 3: to make sure he locks in his forty million dollars

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Speaker 3: for this year. That's a good idea. There's Sam Donald.

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Speaker 3: A lot of different ways that this thing could go.

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Speaker 3: And then, ohso Diggi Zoo, I think you would at

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Speaker 3: least make the case that maybe you could franchise tag him.

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Speaker 3: But with the Cowboys in their current financial situation, you know, capwise,

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Speaker 3: I don't really see that happening. So I think that

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Speaker 3: the two defensive tackles that get paid are the two

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Speaker 3: guys you got up there, Odiggi Zua.

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Speaker 2: And Milton Williams.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we've seen crazy defensive tackle numbers. If both those

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Speaker 3: guys got twenty plus a year, I wouldn't be shocked.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm expecting it for Milton Williams.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the market is for Diggi Zua,

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Speaker 1: but he's a good player who has gotten better and better,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's what you want. The defensive tackles tend

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Speaker 1: to grow up slowly. I did, so I set this

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Speaker 1: list out immediately got some reaction. There are some people

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Speaker 1: that don't think Tray Smith is maybe as good as

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Speaker 1: his reputation, or is maybe not coming off his best

547
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Speaker 1: year that the team's kind of targeted him, did not

548
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Speaker 1: have a great Super Bowl. Team's kind of targeted him

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Speaker 1: a little bit when when Tuney was at left tackle,

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Speaker 1: we'll see I would be shocked if he didn't get

551
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Speaker 1: big money from someone, But maybe it's not. It's from

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Speaker 1: that he was a freaking All Pro and he's young

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Speaker 1: and he's played.

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Speaker 3: Hessian scarcity drives so much of this, and I mean,

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Speaker 3: look through, don't know where your next guard is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's not it's pretty rough, will Fries. I heard

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Speaker 1: some people are are pretty big on I mean, this

558
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Speaker 1: is a guy with a late round pick who didn't

559
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Speaker 1: play that much until twenty twenty three. But they'll do solid.

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Speaker 1: It could be improved. He's the next one. And then

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Speaker 1: it's Tevin Jenkins, who played with.

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Speaker 3: Their interior guys Drew Dolman, who I agree that's probably

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Speaker 3: gonna be the top paid center. And all this is pending.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the other guys who get cut, and of course

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Speaker 3: you add them and update this list regularly. Yes, which

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Speaker 3: is very helpful to those of us who sometimes lose

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Speaker 3: track of things amidst the free agency frenzy. Yes, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think if you're just going down, you know, position

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Speaker 3: by position, Darnold is clearly the one quarterback that's gonna

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Speaker 3: get paid. Is that number in Does that number begin

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Speaker 3: with a three? Does that number begin with a four?

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Speaker 3: Those are the things that remain to be seen, And

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Speaker 3: obviously the tag situation hovers over there.

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Speaker 1: I gotta start with a four if he's getting tagged,

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Speaker 1: because then that means they either would play it or

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Speaker 1: at least find a team that was willing to do

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Speaker 1: like two for seventy but guarantee forty fifty of it

578
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Speaker 1: whatever some something like that.

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Speaker 3: There's no running backs are gonna get paid huge money.

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Speaker 3: Nage Harris will get a good, solid deal because he's

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Speaker 3: a known commodity running back.

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Speaker 1: I'd like Aaron Jones, so I ranked him a little ahead,

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Speaker 1: but that's like a one year deal type of guy

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Speaker 1: that I think is gonna be thirty.

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Speaker 3: Years old and he probably need to, you know, ease

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Speaker 3: off the carries. He got one for seven last year.

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Speaker 3: I think probably around that same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins is out there. Kenneth Gainwell is at the end

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Speaker 1: of my list. Ti Johnson like these these are the

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Speaker 1: types of guys that make it to free andency. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the quarterback, so let's talk about the other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks quickly. Justin Fields. I still think Justin Fields can

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Speaker 1: offer something and was an improved player last year. So

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Speaker 1: because of the quarterback tax, he was my second quarterback

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Speaker 1: and I put him in the top twenty five because

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Speaker 1: I just think that position is that important. Then I

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Speaker 1: went with Russell Wilson. He was around the middle of

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Speaker 1: the fifties. Jamis Winston. I think a high quality backup

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Speaker 1: is worth more than they're getting on the open market,

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Speaker 1: so that's why I still rank them pretty high. Jacoby Brissett,

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Speaker 1: you get into Daniel Jones and Jimmy g Is in

603
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Speaker 1: the mix of guys there, any any of those names

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Speaker 1: stand out to you as maybe we'll get a better

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Speaker 1: deal than people think, well have or at least have

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Speaker 1: a starter's market. I kind of viewed all those guys

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Speaker 1: as backups, but Fields at least has a little bit

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Speaker 1: more of an upside to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the biggest thing.

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Speaker 3: And this is why I think the biggest story in

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Speaker 3: the NFL over the next let's call it three weeks,

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Speaker 3: gonna be trades because in the draft, let's start there.

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Speaker 3: Since we are here in Indianapolis at the combine, how

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Speaker 3: many of those guys do you feel confident are going

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Speaker 3: to start right away? You maybe can make an argument

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Speaker 3: to yourself the cam Ord schadure and if there's somebody

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Speaker 3: else down the line, quin yours just play a ton

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Speaker 3: of football. But maybe all these there's not even a surefire.

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Speaker 3: There's not a Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake may type

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Speaker 3: where you feel like even Drake needed some time.

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Speaker 1: Although hot take, I think the longer we get in

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Speaker 1: this process, people are going to be like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: can't Ward's a pretty great quarterback?

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Speaker 3: People come around on it. So let's say you get

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Speaker 3: one or two starters out of the rookie class. Now

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Speaker 3: you're into the free agent class where Sam Darnold'll be

627
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Speaker 3: starting somewhere. Stafford certainly trade yet, right, But like of

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Speaker 3: the other guys you mentioned on your free agent list,

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Speaker 3: Russ Depenny, where he is. I don't think that he

630
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Speaker 3: signs anywhere as if he's not the starter. So I

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Speaker 3: think Russ starts somewhere. I think fields is a minimum

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Speaker 3: in a competition type of situation. Yeah, and beyond that,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there is anybody else you're saying

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Speaker 3: that guy's going to step in and become an instant starter.

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Speaker 2: So now let's think about it. Maybe jimmd in Los

636
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Speaker 2: Angeles or very specific textual situation. That's right.

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Speaker 3: So now let's get into the quarterback the veteran quarterbacks

638
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Speaker 3: who currently are under contract that we don't know how

639
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Speaker 3: this is going to end. Aaron Rodgers tendantly still under contract,

640
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Speaker 3: but is going to become a free agent.

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Speaker 1: I would to ask ye him on there put on

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Speaker 1: your one on what? No, because I just technically on

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Speaker 1: the team. Maybe they could find a trade for him

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Speaker 1: so he doesn't make the one on it? Where would

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Speaker 1: you put Aaron Rodgers on this list? Just for the listeners?

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Speaker 1: If you keep going to the top twenty Byron Murphy again,

647
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Speaker 1: a lot of good cornerbacks Dre Green, Lodge, Yvon Holland,

648
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Speaker 1: Nick Bolton, Will Fryes, Reddick. I get to my second

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Speaker 1: quarterback there at fields, I would put Rogers I think

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Speaker 1: ahead of Fields, but.

651
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: Maybe not hard though.

652
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some pretty good defensive starters that are

653
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: available all the way through thirty. If you were making

654
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: this list, where do you put him?

655
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: I have a great deal of respect for Aaron Rodgers,

656
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: who like covered early in his careers on four NFL MVPs.

657
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: He's one of the most He's the best practice player

658
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. Interest just the way that he can

659
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: manipulate his body, angles like the arms snap and put

660
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: the ball anywhere. I mean, he is a rare dude.

661
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: The guy I saw for large chunks last season was

662
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: not Aaron Rodgers. Is that being forty one years old?

663
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: Is that coming off a torn achilles? Is that the

664
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: general dysfunction that emerged after the Fireing to Robert Solo, well,

665
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: I'd say the last game that he played with Soli

666
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: as the head coach was the worst I've ever seen

667
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers play, just missing wide open dude after wide

668
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: open dude. So all the other stuff that comes with

669
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: Aaron and is he doing publicity tours on McAfee and

670
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: documentaries and everything like all that. That's a real thing,

671
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: and teams have talked to me about it, you know,

672
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: do you want to bring all that in? But it's

673
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: also just about are you going in on this guy

674
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get the version who for half the

675
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: season last year not only wasn't the reason they were winning,

676
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: but he was a big reason they were losing. I

677
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: don't know, hard to put him in a ranking. He's

678
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: somewhere in the top one to one. It is Who's

679
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: number one O one? Greg, we got it's Nick Chubb.

680
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: I I'm glad you mentioned that this is a big

681
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: reveal every year. One O one is unique because as

682
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: the players come on and off the list.

683
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: You Deontay Johnson at one hundred. I did I uh

684
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: touch screen? Sorry? Yeah, I just thought.

685
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: As crazy as season as he has, no one had

686
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: a worse contract here than Deaday Jensen. I just feel

687
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: like out of the talent's too good. It's so hard

688
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: to find a wide receiver. I want to stick him in,

689
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: but one on one is the Warne's.

690
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: Closer in my mind, I'll say this, and don't don't

691
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: put this, don't let the aggreatet all.

692
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: Do I want to get aggregated? All right? I would

693
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: put Aaron closer to one on one, then that's fair.

694
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: I I don't think it's crazy to say that if

695
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: you're just looking at all things considered, had to Let's say,

696
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Is maybe my last one that made the list.

697
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: He's somewhere in the eighties or something like that, seventies.

698
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: I can't find Aaron, all.

699
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Right, Then Aaron, if you're if you're weighing by weighing

700
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: it out in terms of like position value, then he's

701
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: probably somewhere around the Jimmy G territory, which when it

702
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: sounded like blasphemy three years ago, but now it's just

703
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: it's the reality that dude, if you go back through

704
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: the course of time, I know you're a great football historian.

705
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: Look at the Hall of Fame up to say, twenty

706
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: years ago. You go through every player through like the

707
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: early two thousands, every Hall of Fame quarterback, they all

708
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: retired at age thirty seven thirty eight. They all every

709
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: single one, not like around there or below that, like

710
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: right at thirty seven thirty eight, like that was the cutoff.

711
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: There's literally only two quarter like one quarterback now as

712
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: all as Aaron Rodgers that's ever produced. Well, and it's

713
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I mean it's Tom Brady. And the only

714
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: one that even got a little close was Warren Moon

715
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees got to that like forty forty one

716
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: season and that's it.

717
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: Marvid thirty nine had a great sea, didn't get me.

718
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: That's where Rogers. Warren Moon played into his early forties,

719
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: and then tom Ma re wrote everything and made it

720
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: hard on all these guys, like dudes didn't play this long.

721
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: And when Aaron's his great skin was always getting inside

722
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: and outside the pocket and making things happen on the run.

723
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: You see, whether he either can't do it or doesn't

724
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: think he should do it, that part's not there anymore.

725
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: So then again, just to wrap that, like the quarterbacks,

726
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: think of the number of guys we got that are available.

727
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: Rogers fluid with Kirk Cousins, yes, flued with Matthew Stafford,

728
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: flued with.

729
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, yes.

730
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: So that's four more names that everybody's sitting there going

731
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: are they gonna be cut? Are they gonna get traded? Like,

732
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. Point gotta push all these guys down.

733
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: So it's just my point is like, if you're sitting

734
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: there like to me again, that's the biggest storyline over

735
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: the next three weeks is all these guys are available,

736
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be chaotic because teams are gonna look

737
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: at free agency and the draft and go, we just

738
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: need to go get this guy to get us through

739
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: the year.

740
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: This is all really good stuff. I want to I

741
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: want to get to a little more on the one one.

742
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: But before I do, does that mean Derek Carr is available?

743
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: You think he's got a ten million dollars fully guaranteed bonus.

744
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: I think it's the third.

745
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Or fifth day of the league ar fifth day of

746
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: the league year, and he's got another thirty million that

747
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: fully ves if he's on the roster the third day

748
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: of the league year. So there's they're gonna have to

749
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: do something. If he's gonna be a Saint, they're gonna

750
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: have to address his contract. I know Kellen Moore and

751
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: Derek have met and they've talked about next season and

752
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: all those things, but they're going to come to a

753
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: contractual agreement. Does that kind of like Stafford a different category,

754
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: but does that work out in New Orleans? Is it

755
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: ultimately Hey, we're better off with him going someplace else.

756
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: Like I would say, it's fluid. There has to be

757
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: a resolution, and there's no resolution right now.

758
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: And when I hear fluid, and I don't want to

759
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: put words in your mouth because you are a responsor

760
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: bull reporter and I'm not.

761
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm just, you know, hosting a show here and offer

762
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: an analysis. You've been doing it in a long time.

763
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Away with it. I don't mean it. It's not irresponsible.

764
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: But when I hear fluid and I hear them considering

765
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: moving him, it's almost like the quote on retirement, once

766
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: you're thinking about it, you're already almost there. When I

767
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: hear that, I think, Okay, there's a there's a decent

768
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: chance all those guys I think are going to be playing.

769
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: How many career quarterbacks took like substantial pay cuts. Brady

770
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: was on a year to year thing, and you can

771
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: argue he always took deals that were friendly because he

772
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 3: wanted them to continue to put together the roster. Ben

773
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: Roethlisberger took a huge but he is you know, he's

774
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: not Brady In New England. He's not Roethlisberger and Pittsburgh,

775
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: he's Derek Carr got there a couple of years ago,

776
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: and the only game that I saw he played there,

777
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: he got booed every time he came on the field

778
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: and they cheered when Taysom replaced him. So like, there's

779
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: not a lot of history there. Derek Derrek's a great guy,

780
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: and you know, you know, if he wants to play

781
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: this season, I would anticipate that he's gonna have options

782
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: to do that. I just can't stare and tell you

783
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: is it going to be in New Orleans. A couple

784
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: of things. I thought that the defense actually was pretty

785
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: deep on this list. Uh, if you need a three

786
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: down linebacker, and I feel like a lot of teams

787
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: do a lot of good players. I have Zach Bond

788
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: I mentioned at five, Nick Bolton's at eighteen. Ernest Jones,

789
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: who was on three rosters last year but kind of

790
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 3: turned the Seahawks season around.

791
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: Put him in the thirty.

792
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Jamien Sherwood was a guy who I heard from a

793
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: lot of people they were like, oh, you have him

794
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: too low. I put him in the top thirty five.

795
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: In the end, maybe I should have put him even higher.

796
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: Dre Greenlaw is in my top twenty a difference maker,

797
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: another guy people have some people have a lot of

798
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: support for Kaiser White is in my top one hundred

799
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: Tyrel Dodson, who was with the Dolphins. So I actually

800
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: think there could be like a little bit of a

801
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: trend where three down linebackers start getting value, they start

802
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: bouncing back a little bit like running backs.

803
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Did.

804
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: I feel like we've now gotten to the point where

805
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the analytics or whatever the conventional wisdom from teams is,

806
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: don't play, don't pay these linebackers. It's now gotten so

807
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: low that actually it was like, oh wait, these are

808
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: the guys getting picked on in our biggest games. We

809
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: could have some and that's why there's actually a decent

810
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: amount of them that made it.

811
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: What happened with the linebackers was that used to be

812
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: a depreciated position and then you remember all these guys,

813
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: they go them back like seven years though, and the

814
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 3: Jets did that.

815
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't seven, like five.

816
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: Mike mccagnum was the GM They went like, they basically

817
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: gave fifty percent more than the top of the market

818
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: to CJ. Mosley to convince him to come to the

819
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: Jets and game seventeen million year, like the top of

820
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: the market that point was like twelve. And then so

821
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, everybody like Bobby Wagner and all

822
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: these guys are like, I want that so and all of

823
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: a sudden you had all these deals that got done

824
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: at seventeen eighteen million dollars and then there was kind

825
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: of this course correction back down.

826
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

827
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Zach Bond will be fascinating because last year

828
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: that was one of the greatest values in the entire league,

829
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: a one year, five million dollar deal. Can how he

830
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: get that done to bring him back? He was a

831
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: pretty big part of that defense. I think him, Him

832
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: and Bolden are clearly the two that everybody's gonna be

833
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: watching and hoping that they bring that back up to

834
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: the top of the market, because again, it wasn't that

835
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: long ago that if you were a free agent linebacker,

836
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: you were sitting there going those guys are getting.

837
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Seventeen so cycled through every year, and yet this I think,

838
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: if I was making a list of all these egos

839
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: free agents, I think he's the one that they have

840
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: to just break the bank. I think they wish they

841
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: had resigned Milton Williams earlier a rare thing that maybe

842
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: how he would want back. You can't resign everyone. Cornerback

843
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: I mentioned is pretty pretty deep. I mentioned those three

844
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: at the top, Carlton Davis, DJ Reid Tarvarius.

845
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: Byron Murphy too. Byron murmur had a really good year fifteen.

846
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Actually I moved him up with some and then guys

847
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I wish I had, I already wish I had a

848
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: little higher.

849
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: I heard from multiple people.

850
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Travon Morrig, he's at twenty two good years the Safety

851
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, shout out to Mike Mayock. A Mayock

852
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: picks right, and actually I heard from more than one

853
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: person now is like even that's way too low. He

854
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: should be maybe in your top ten, Like he is

855
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: a sending really good young starter.

856
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, is Jovon Hall in your top safety He is.

857
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: Just ahead of morg And I got some people saying

858
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: they would rather have morg. I think there'd probably be

859
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: more a really agreement.

860
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: He had a really good year. And then there's a

861
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: bunch of other guys who can't come off good years.

862
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean cam buying him. Yes, another is another one

863
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: who I think is going to do well guys like

864
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: Jeremy Chin that kind of get forgotten. He's going to be,

865
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: you know, certainly in the mix. It's just a matter

866
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: if he's a very specifics like a Swiss army knife.

867
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: It's like, what's the scheme fit for him. Yeah, there's

868
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: some safeties. There's a bunch of corners to your point,

869
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: there's a couple of linebackers, there's a couple of defensive tackles,

870
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: and then the edge market's also going to be that's

871
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: one name.

872
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Or do you have Dio Adenobo? He is in my

873
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: top forty or so.

874
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: He might be one of those ones that surprises you.

875
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: That makes even more than you expect. He was someone

876
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: I had thought that. Listen, initially, I know, I kind

877
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: of well, there's there's not a last thirty eight.

878
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of I know, you got like Khalil

879
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Mack in your your top twenty five. Like there's a

880
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: bunch of the older guys like Chase Young's a free

881
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: agent once again and Kalais Campbell.

882
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, I don't mind putting some of

883
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: those guys higher because I do know year after year

884
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: that those guys end up being great values. Kalais Campbell's

885
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: been a fantastic value a year after year, you're getting

886
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: a high quality starter for like ten if it's not

887
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: a prediction of like who makes the most money necessarily,

888
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: it's it's who.

889
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: Uh is gonna be good?

890
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: But in terms of those young edge rushers, because people

891
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: are proactive doing deals, the top ones get tagged this year,

892
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: there isn't anybody who's really in the tag category. You know,

893
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: Diodenable might be the highest paid edge rusher in this

894
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: entire group, and I would bet you got a various

895
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: You're you're killing me.

896
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: That's why I want to now I got to put

897
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: him in the top twenty five. It's too late.

898
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: Joshan Morton was the other one from the Chiefs that

899
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: just I think he's gonna get paid a lot. A

900
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: lot of people are watching Chiefs film during the during

901
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and he is a good god where do

902
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: you have Godwin? I put him in the top ten

903
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: just out of respect.

904
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: I think the meris also if and when t gets tagged,

905
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: like who else are you paying up there?

906
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton should do well. Let's let's think it quickly.

907
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: I know you got to go. I don't want to

908
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: push you too hard here and take advantage of your time.

909
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: You got to go do more live TV. What a

910
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: schedule that Pella Sero has. They have him on from

911
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: like seven or eight in the morning on Good Morning Football,

912
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: and then he's got to take off the suit, put

913
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: put it back on like eight hours later.

914
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: And this shirt's got his shirts.

915
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Kind of wrinkled, you know the part down at the

916
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: bottom that's just like completely wrinkling. You take it out

917
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: of your pants the other day. I get to put

918
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: that back in the pants. That's okay.

919
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: The wide receiver of market, I have Amari Cooper at thirteen,

921
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton and Mark eas Brown at forty two and

922
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: forty three, Diami Brown who had a good playoff run

923
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: at fifty. Stefan Diggs is at thirty. I thought he

924
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: was sadly into a nice role. I know he's an

925
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: older player, but just out of respect. Mike Williams is

926
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: an interesting guy to me. I think a lot of

927
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: teams have written him off. I do wonder a year

928
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: more removed from a torn acl I had to give

929
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: him some respect and put him in.

930
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: A top secred I mean, Mike Williams when he's on.

931
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: He's always been a streaky player, as everybody who's in

932
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: fantasy knows, including me. I'm like a long time, long

933
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: term Mike Williams owner, and it's like, you will get

934
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: stretches where he's unbelievable, and then there's games where he disappears.

935
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: Blake just watching him love.

936
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: There's very few of those big body, vertical speed threat guys.

937
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: He's one of them. And you're right, I mean another

938
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: year coming off of a very serious injury, right, he'll

939
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: be more expressive. It's not shocking to me. He took

940
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: a little bit he never had, but Diggs. Diggs will

941
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: be coming right back from his ACL as an older player.

942
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: I still those guys they tend to get like the

943
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: one year incentive laden types of deals. You know, one's

944
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: coming off an injury too, and he's got a prior ACL.

945
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: He's always on the injury report with the knee. My

946
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: belief is still somebody's gonna pay him just because they're

947
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 3: gonna look at the alternatives and say this is clearly

948
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: the best guy out.

949
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the list, it's not deep.

950
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, I had to it hurt me, but DeAndre

951
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Hopkins and Keenan Allen are are towards the back of

952
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: the the one on one. Two great players, but not

953
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: at their best right now. It was a red flag

954
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: for me that Hopkins could not produce with Patrick Mams.

955
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: You're not gonna have a better situation.

956
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: Well, hop hop just kind of runs his own route

957
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: tree and I think that that takes time for the

958
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: quarterback to get on the same page. Keenan Allen new

959
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: place didn't work out on anybody wanted to in Chicago.

960
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: He's a competitor's he's thirty five. I think he's older now. Yeah,

961
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: but you know another guy who he absolutely he's got

962
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: a place in the league here.

963
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of like thirty three, don't you

964
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 2: try to thirty three?

965
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I try to age this guy, all right, And yes,

966
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb at twenty nine is my one on one.

967
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I didn't finish my thought earlier, but uh, yes, one

968
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: on one stays there.

969
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: For X one onesub.

970
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: It's a position of respect because I know he's coming

971
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: off these serious injuries. But this is a Hall of

972
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: Fame talent, Hall of Fame person, so you want to

973
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: bet on the person I thought he would represent.

974
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: One on one.

975
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: Well, uns seed to the Browns, try to get something done.

976
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: They did the deal with him last year knowing he

977
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: was gonna miss most of the season. Do you take

978
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: one more run? Does he want to go someplace? So

979
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be a ton of money. He's a

980
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: bad dude though, you know when he's out there, if

981
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: he can capture some of what he was, we'll go.

982
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: He is also a bad dude. Tom Pellisero, he's made

983
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: nice with the en Rappaport. These two guys, they're dominating

984
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: the insider gang game. I will say it right now

985
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: for Tom Pelisaro. Appreciate the time you got man. We

986
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: will be back on Tuesday. Like I mentioned, we're gonna

987
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: have some general manager interviews. Jordan rod Rieg of The

988
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: Athletic will also join me on the show. And yes,

989
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: it will be coming out earlier in the days. We'll

990
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: just send it once we get all the news, because look,

991
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: it's not that just the gms we're talking to the coaches.

992
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: The gms for every single team are going to be

993
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: at these podiums over.

994
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: The next couple days.

995
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: A lot news coming out of that until then, Yeah, look,

996
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: when we're back in Indianapolis. It almost feels like football

997
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: is back, but no, it's still the regular season for now.

998
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: See a Tuesday