Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for the finale and the
Speaker 1: season of Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man on Disney Plus,
Speaker 1: so be warned.
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Speaker 3: In today's episode, it's a Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man smorgas
Speaker 3: board as we react to the final two episodes, Episode nine,
Speaker 3: hero a Menace and episode ten Be My Destiny. And
Speaker 3: we're also gonna look at the impact of this season
Speaker 3: on the why to MCU, what does it mean? What
Speaker 3: is this multiversal version of Pete? The Parker tell us
Speaker 3: about what's coming next?
Speaker 2: So excited for that?
Speaker 1: Okay, episodes nine to ten in lieu of a recap,
Speaker 1: we'll just let's just breeze through basically what happened and
Speaker 1: then talk about our reactions and what we think the
Speaker 1: impacts of some of these things are going to be
Speaker 1: so Spider Man basically essues Norman's advice to that with
Speaker 1: great power comes great respect. He gets a new suit
Speaker 1: courtesy of Norman's son Harry, who started having basically holding
Speaker 1: company so that he could produce this stuff that will
Speaker 1: certainly play a role in the future Tombstone. Lonnie gets
Speaker 1: his powers, and then he and Spiderman team up to
Speaker 1: take down on the Scorpion and what is a fantastic fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he gets some classic style. We see the
Speaker 3: de Ox three container and then Lonnie basically makes the
Speaker 3: choice to help Spider Man. And we also see Big
Speaker 3: Donovan run away when Scorpions shows up and he loses
Speaker 3: the one ten gang and then they become Lonnie's gang,
Speaker 3: and I think we'll see something interesting and subversive with
Speaker 3: that in season two from what we see here.
Speaker 1: And then the final kind of like really fun circular
Speaker 1: reveal of this season is that Norman's big Brain plan
Speaker 1: is to create a Einstein Rosen Bridge Allah marvels the
Speaker 1: Avengers to access other parts of the galaxy, other places
Speaker 1: in space from which I guess they could harness resources
Speaker 1: and just make discoveries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to basically take all of the resources
Speaker 3: from space, which is never going to end well. And
Speaker 3: he basically tricked the kids into making the parts for
Speaker 3: the bridge.
Speaker 2: But I'm an astro knew what it was. He was
Speaker 2: just going, I did it. He was like, I walked.
Speaker 1: Out, and that opens up a portal through which comes
Speaker 1: the symbiote, which is how Spider Man gets his powers
Speaker 1: have to being bitten by a spider from that universe,
Speaker 1: as we saw in the beginning of this season, which
Speaker 1: is really interesting and has I've had a lot of
Speaker 1: fun just thinking about what that means. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about what that means in everything that we've seen here
Speaker 1: at What are the first things that you're just initial
Speaker 1: reactions of this season.
Speaker 2: I really loved this season.
Speaker 3: I thought this was a very fun reveal because we
Speaker 3: definitely were in a territory where we felt like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: they're taking miles this origin.
Speaker 2: Again, a spider from another universe comes through, but.
Speaker 3: Here we actually see it's just a spider from like
Speaker 3: a week, you know, a few months later, when doctor
Speaker 3: Strange comes Noman else Bourne's experimenting on the spiders. The
Speaker 3: spider slips through it bites pizza in the past, and
Speaker 3: this time loop continues. But you made a good point
Speaker 3: in pre production where what if we're following the Marvel
Speaker 3: endgame time right emc MC time travel rules, this would
Speaker 3: mean that there are many many timelines at this point, right.
Speaker 1: So MC rules would suggest that there was an original
Speaker 1: Spider Man who got his powers, not this way he
Speaker 1: gets involved in a fight against a symbiote, and the
Speaker 1: way that we see in episode ten that opens a
Speaker 1: portal through Strange. Strange opens a portal through which the
Speaker 1: Symbiote and the Spider go to another dimension, and that
Speaker 1: creates a Spider Man, and then that Spider Man loops
Speaker 1: that Spider Man has the career that we see in
Speaker 1: season one of Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man. He's a
Speaker 1: portal that opens another timeline that opens another timeline that opens.
Speaker 1: So it's such like a series of timelines that has
Speaker 1: created this Spider Man that we've seen, if we're going
Speaker 1: by MCU rules, Because it's a little bit like a
Speaker 1: terminator situation where.
Speaker 2: It's how does John Connor happen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how does John Connor initially get born?
Speaker 3: I will say this could easily be like a closed
Speaker 3: time loop just by general time travel standards, and it
Speaker 3: kind of looks like that's what this is. But also
Speaker 3: we don't really know where the endgame time travel rules
Speaker 3: stand because they were always kind of blurry, like there
Speaker 3: was always a lot of conversations.
Speaker 2: I had to write an article at Esquire trying.
Speaker 3: To explain it, like and I do I think that
Speaker 3: this is a really neat interesting way to kind of
Speaker 3: intertwine Norman and Peter's fates in this universe.
Speaker 1: I think I think you need these kind of I
Speaker 1: think you need to MCU timeline rules just for the
Speaker 1: fact that you kind of lose all agency if you did,
Speaker 1: Like the characters are just doing things that have already
Speaker 1: been done or that are pretty you have to have
Speaker 1: to describe that have to happen, so you kind of
Speaker 1: have to have them this way.
Speaker 3: What do you think about Norman's ark in this series,
Speaker 3: because we really do get a different kind of Norman,
Speaker 3: but he ends in a much more classic Norman space.
Speaker 1: I really like the way you said something in you
Speaker 1: know before we start rolling that just like how patient
Speaker 1: this show is, and I think Norman is a good
Speaker 1: example of that, where, you know, I think for a
Speaker 1: lot of this season I'm like, what, Norman seems like
Speaker 1: a good This is good.
Speaker 2: He's trying his best. He's a good relationship with Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, obviously I think he's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a disruptor and a rule breaker, but that's
Speaker 1: not a big deal. But when he says to Peter,
Speaker 1: with great power comes great respect, and you have to
Speaker 1: take your respect, I was like, uh oh. And then
Speaker 1: certainly by the time that he it is revealed that
Speaker 1: he's been obsessively, secretly, you know, driving this project to
Speaker 1: create this stargate, and he's been doing it in a
Speaker 1: very manipulative way, and the way he is so driven
Speaker 1: by it almost maniacally, you know, you really see the
Speaker 1: meglomania come out. Yes, And it's at that point that
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, we're not that far away from the
Speaker 1: Green Goblin.
Speaker 3: And also, I thought something that I loved about this
Speaker 3: show is they knew when to tease something and when
Speaker 3: to reveal something.
Speaker 2: And I thought that one of the best moments.
Speaker 3: Was earlier in the season, kind of in the middle
Speaker 3: block of episodes, when Pizza.
Speaker 2: Is really getting just beaten up when he's trying out.
Speaker 3: The new suit, which we get a lot of course
Speaker 3: suits here. We even get the video game suit. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of video game references in this, which I
Speaker 3: think is really fun because for a lot of kids
Speaker 3: that was their entry point to Spider Man, was playing
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 2: But you get this moment where Peter is just like
Speaker 2: losing this fight and then you see the Green.
Speaker 3: Goblin, you know, hoverboard coming towards him, and you think,
Speaker 3: oh my god, is that going to be the Green Goblin. No,
Speaker 3: it's just the hoverboard, which essentially works as like a
Speaker 3: drone and can get him out of there. But we
Speaker 3: get those teasers so that we know in the next
Speaker 3: season Norman is definitely going to take that fateful step.
Speaker 3: And we see here that his desperation to be at
Speaker 3: the forefront of space exploration, of colonizing space, of taking
Speaker 3: resources from space, he has got a greed for knowledge,
Speaker 3: for power, for respect that will turn on him. But
Speaker 3: I think that that is always one of my favorite
Speaker 3: things about Norman. Osborne is a good version of Norman
Speaker 3: is actually benevolent as well, and he does love Peter,
Speaker 3: and he does care about Peter, and he does think
Speaker 3: Peter is really clever, and he wants to help Peter
Speaker 3: become the best version of himself, but it always becomes
Speaker 3: twisted as Norman kind of grows and his need for
Speaker 3: power grows.
Speaker 2: And I just thought they did such a good job
Speaker 2: of that here.
Speaker 3: I love this Norman Osborne like Common Domingos, so incredible
Speaker 3: as voice actor. We finally get, like you said, you know,
Speaker 3: culturally appropriate hair Norman, And I just thought that I
Speaker 3: love the relationship between Harry Norman and Peter, and I
Speaker 3: love that here they allow Peter and Harry to have
Speaker 3: a friendship that is not defined by Norman's kind of
Speaker 3: clear preference for Peter, and instead Harry and Peter get
Speaker 3: to create a relationship on their own terms. That leads
Speaker 3: to this very cool ending where Nico suggests to Harry, well,
Speaker 3: you're super rich, why don't you create this kind of
Speaker 3: web business where you can have us basically making super suits,
Speaker 3: being superheroes, helping people out. It's that kind of move
Speaker 3: away as well from what Norman hooked Harry and hooked
Speaker 3: Peter up with, which is the very Spider Man one
Speaker 3: police radio scanner where Peter's kind of always helping the police.
Speaker 3: In Spider Man two, they decided that it would be
Speaker 3: ned instead of the police to kind of move him
Speaker 3: away from that, which I thought was cool. Also, if
Speaker 3: you're looking for other obvious Disney attributes here, the company
Speaker 3: that they create Web that is the game and kind
Speaker 3: of set up of the Spider Man Bride in Disneyland.
Speaker 3: Web is the Webslingers and you go into the lab
Speaker 3: and you play with the spider Bots and you have
Speaker 3: to kind of save them and sling them. So a
Speaker 3: lot of Disney synergy here with the video game with
Speaker 3: the with WB but in I thought a really fun
Speaker 3: way that for kids is probably going to make this
Speaker 3: feel like a very immersive cartoon that kind of goes
Speaker 3: outside of you know, your classic Saturday morning fair. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Something I found very interesting is that the Kovie Accords
Speaker 1: do exist in this, which suggests to us when this
Speaker 1: possibly takes place, I guess in a post endgame or
Speaker 1: maybe a pre Snap.
Speaker 2: Or at least not post Civil War post Yeah. I
Speaker 2: think you're right.
Speaker 1: So what's really interesting is that that means that the
Speaker 1: big fight in Berlin in Captain America Civil War happened
Speaker 1: without Spider Man there, which is fascinating to think about.
Speaker 1: I wonder how that went.
Speaker 2: I want to know, like who was there instead?
Speaker 3: Who did yeah, call in because we know that Spider
Speaker 3: Man is really the surprise winning secret in that battle,
Speaker 3: especially because when it was the first time we got
Speaker 3: Spider Man in the MCU, first time we see Tom
Speaker 3: Holland in the role, but it was that Tony thinking
Speaker 3: outside of the box, Tony getting a young hero nobody
Speaker 3: knew about who had a power set that they couldn't
Speaker 3: plan for.
Speaker 2: I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 3: I also really like that the way we see the
Speaker 3: the Covia Records represented here is much more like the
Speaker 3: kind of Mutant Registration Act. So we see the government
Speaker 3: hunting people down, we see the government trying to find
Speaker 3: people with powers. We see the government trying to find
Speaker 3: someone like dot Op and who's selling this kind of
Speaker 3: power broker esque tech to villains to give them, you know,
Speaker 3: these powers. We saw it with Tarantula and Speed Demon,
Speaker 3: and I thought it was cool to see the policing
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought that a certain character was
Speaker 1: gonna be the person that was arming these criminals, but
Speaker 1: then it turned out to be Doc Cock, which which I.
Speaker 2: Think is cool. I love it. They definitely did some
Speaker 2: interesting stuff with that there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was gonna be someone else, and
Speaker 1: we kind of tease that at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: I will say I loved their depiction of doc Ock
Speaker 1: as this arrogant show tune loving, like dancing like ego
Speaker 1: maniac who was also like kind of I think has
Speaker 1: a little bit of add It was a really wonderful
Speaker 1: depiction of him, and more speak more about like how Patients'
Speaker 1: show is. They could have started with, oh, no question
Speaker 1: Octavius having the arms on already, but it's clear, like
Speaker 1: from the end of the season that he gets the
Speaker 1: oh yeah, maybe I should figure out a better use
Speaker 1: for these arms some day. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like that causal of the papers all up against
Speaker 3: the wall kind of in him standing in front. Also
Speaker 3: great to see like a comics accurate kind of cartoon accurate. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I loved how chunky he was. I loved the glasses.
Speaker 3: With the little shining, the little kind of reflection in
Speaker 3: the eye. I also hilariously had had this like McDonald's
Speaker 3: stock oc figure from the old cartoons, and it looked
Speaker 3: identical to this version. So I think I really enjoyed
Speaker 3: seeing the way that they reimagined and recontextualized character designs
Speaker 3: for the younger characters, this kind of new.
Speaker 2: Cool, Harry.
Speaker 3: I loved Pearl and have you know, she's so tall
Speaker 3: and statuesque, and you know that if she does end
Speaker 3: up getting those wave powers, she's going to be formidable.
Speaker 2: I love Nico, But what I also loved.
Speaker 3: Was the way that for certain characters they kept the
Speaker 3: designs really classic.
Speaker 2: It was a fun mix of both.
Speaker 3: As we I know from if you listen to our
Speaker 3: first episode kind of recap where we were talking about
Speaker 3: the first two episodes. I was Lonnie was my big
Speaker 3: fave character, and I was very nerve wracked as I
Speaker 3: watched this season to see where that journey would go,
Speaker 3: as he kind of traversed being in a gang and
Speaker 3: trying to protect his brother from Big Donovan's gang. But
Speaker 3: I loved that Lonnie's journey to becoming Tombstone was switched
Speaker 3: up and became more of a heroic thing, more of
Speaker 3: a space for him to help Peter, to help his friends,
Speaker 3: and hopefully I think we could see the one tenth
Speaker 3: Gang become something totally different than we've seen in the comics.
Speaker 3: And we did get to see, you know, Lonnie, they
Speaker 3: I thought something else that was really cool. Character design wise,
Speaker 3: was that rather than having him turn completely white like Tombstone,
Speaker 3: they showed it sort of growing on his skin, and
Speaker 3: that was I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 1: I could see them it'd be cool if it progresses
Speaker 1: over time. I could see his skin changing like overtime,
Speaker 1: so Lannie gets his powers. And also we see in
Speaker 1: the Stinger scene at the end of the season that
Speaker 1: Nico has at some point and perhaps has been as
Speaker 1: the series has been ongoing, is starting to dabble in magic.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: We saw her previously like doing terror readings, but now
Speaker 1: she's trying to contact her mom, who you know, unbeknownst
Speaker 1: to her as a member of a super.
Speaker 3: Villain, supervillain organization, super fellain group.
Speaker 1: But she'll find that out, and yeah, so that's really fine.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to go doing some magic next season.
Speaker 3: We definitely had a lot of I had a lot
Speaker 3: of fun with the way they had Nico. We kind
Speaker 3: of had a conversation about this, and I think they
Speaker 3: leave it open for interpretation, but I think something really
Speaker 3: fun they do with Nico as she has the Amula and.
Speaker 2: She either feels like it gives her some kind of.
Speaker 3: Good luck or she knows that it will get her
Speaker 3: out of bad situations, because we have her use it
Speaker 3: when she's about to get hit by a car and
Speaker 3: then Peter turns up a very Twilight esque moment where
Speaker 3: he kind of stops this car from crushing her. We
Speaker 3: also see her looking at it as she's drag racing
Speaker 3: with Harry in his car and they manage to escape
Speaker 3: this kind of car crash that could happen, So she
Speaker 3: definitely either sees it as some kind of luck or
Speaker 3: new and I do that's very cool, I know, because
Speaker 3: it feels like she kind of looks at a lot,
Speaker 3: and she did when Peter tells her that he is
Speaker 3: Spider Man. Finally, after Harry accidentally reveals it, he says
Speaker 3: to her, no more secrets, and she looks at the
Speaker 3: amula after he leaves and she says, yeah, no more secrets.
Speaker 3: So I think she knows that she has this magic connection.
Speaker 3: And obviously at the end we see her truly like
Speaker 3: trying to talk to her mum. Also another interesting thing
Speaker 3: I realized when I was rewatching some of these episodes.
Speaker 3: Nika in this version lips with foster parents, but her
Speaker 3: foster mom is called missus O'Hara ras so I do
Speaker 3: wonder if that's to make it meant to be Miguel's
Speaker 3: mom if we're going to get some kind of version
Speaker 3: of Spider Man twenty ninety nine in the next season,
Speaker 3: because we definitely do get a lot of fun moments
Speaker 3: like that in the show.
Speaker 1: One of the things I was thinking about is they
Speaker 1: did kind of give Peter Miles's origin story kind of
Speaker 1: like because it's a Spider from another dimension a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say that it's the same timeline,
Speaker 1: but it's probably if it's mc raising, it's a different.
Speaker 2: Time on a different timeline technically a different timeline.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting now, you know, we end up with
Speaker 1: Norman having the Spider, having possession of the Spider and
Speaker 1: clearly intending to use it to perhaps create other Spider people,
Speaker 1: and but he's probably going to try and give himself
Speaker 1: Spider powers, and that opens up the door to possibly
Speaker 1: then be able to like flip the origin story, so people, yeah,
Speaker 1: and have the Miles origin Miles gets the Peter traditional.
Speaker 2: I would love that. I think that would be really fun,
Speaker 2: and I like, I think.
Speaker 3: This is a much more successful experiment of the what
Speaker 3: if kind of train of thought of how do we
Speaker 3: tell a story that is recognizable to people, but that
Speaker 3: has enough twists and turns and changes in the origin
Speaker 3: that it feels like you're watching something different. And I
Speaker 3: think this has been a largely successful experiment. It was
Speaker 3: emotionally driven, it was interesting.
Speaker 2: It's full of easter eggs.
Speaker 3: I mean, as they're drag racing, we see them drag
Speaker 3: racing against the woman who's got like orange hair and
Speaker 3: her car has flames on the side, and it's like,
Speaker 3: is that fire star? They don't actually give her a name.
Speaker 3: So there was like so much fun here if you're
Speaker 3: a kid who just loves Spider Man from playing the
Speaker 3: video games and watching the movies, or if you're an
Speaker 3: adult like us who just loves this stuff and loves
Speaker 3: to see different versions about.
Speaker 2: I mean, even the names of these final two episodes.
Speaker 3: If this be My Destiny is the very famous story
Speaker 3: arc where we get some of the most legendary Spider
Speaker 3: Man moments, which is the steep Dicko stan Lee stuff
Speaker 3: with art Simeric and Stan Goldberg, and obviously that very
Speaker 3: famous cover of Spider Man holding up the three rays
Speaker 3: holding up the stuff that's kind of crushing him, and
Speaker 3: we get the moment of dot COK being involved, Harry
Speaker 3: being involved. I'm so excited to see where this goes
Speaker 3: next and kind of what could happen.
Speaker 1: We must talk about the crazy fa what I think
Speaker 1: is the craziest show, which is, like I was yelling,
Speaker 1: I was, I could.
Speaker 2: Not believe it.
Speaker 1: So aunt May in the in when we last see
Speaker 1: her the end of the season, Aunt May is heading
Speaker 1: to a prison facility somewhere to visit none other than
Speaker 1: Richard Parker, father of Deer Parker, who is alive in
Speaker 1: the line. And man, this is so I wonder where
Speaker 1: they go with this, because I mean, Richard Parker was
Speaker 1: like a spy in the comics and they kind of
Speaker 1: do that an Amazing Spider Man. They kind of have
Speaker 1: the you know, the Parkers involved in this conspiracy thing.
Speaker 1: So I wonder where they're gonna go with this.
Speaker 3: This is also very interesting because that is there was
Speaker 3: gonna be a deleted scene at the end of Amazing
Speaker 3: Spider Man two where Richard kind of revealed that he
Speaker 3: was still alive even off you know, so this kind
Speaker 3: of runs into that pe and in this version Richard
Speaker 3: is in prison. So also I'm very interested. I thought
Speaker 3: it was gonna be Uncle Ben because throughout season and
Speaker 3: a lot of people have mentioned this in our discord
Speaker 3: as well. Throughout the season, they often reference Uncle Benn
Speaker 3: as being gone or gone us, but they don't real.
Speaker 2: Lean into it. So I was thinking, well, maybe that's him.
Speaker 3: So I think we could have an interesting Ben Richard
Speaker 3: conflict in season two. I'm guessing if Richard is in prison,
Speaker 3: it probably is something to do with his spy work.
Speaker 3: But it also would be interesting if they had a
Speaker 3: storyline that he just kind of sucked, like some of
Speaker 3: us have dads that suck, like I would.
Speaker 2: Be could be that what that looks like?
Speaker 3: And I mean, there's just so much to delve into
Speaker 3: in Richard Parker's history that they could be looking at,
Speaker 3: Like you could be talking about scrolls, you could be
Speaker 3: talking about Hydra, you could be talking about the US Army.
Speaker 2: We could find out.
Speaker 3: That Mary is still alive. Like, it's definitely gonna be
Speaker 3: really interesting. I thought that was a wild thing, and
Speaker 3: I feel especially from people, we were just like, oh
Speaker 3: my days, like what's going on?
Speaker 2: And I thought that was really really fun.
Speaker 3: And we will be right back to talk a little
Speaker 3: bit more about Friendly neighborhood spider Man after message from
Speaker 3: Osborns's how went back, Jason, who is your breakout character
Speaker 3: from the season?
Speaker 1: Oh, gosh, I think I think it's Lonnie. I thought
Speaker 1: they did such an incredible job with Lonnie as like
Speaker 1: the b plot of many of the episodes down the
Speaker 1: stretches of the season, they did a great job just
Speaker 1: fleshing out the world of the One ten Gang and
Speaker 1: how Lonnie relates to them. Some of the I think
Speaker 1: most hard hitting stuff for me was like Lonnie trying
Speaker 1: to like Lonnie living these two lives where he's pretending
Speaker 1: to still be those you know, the straight a student
Speaker 1: and quarterback of the high school football team and clean
Speaker 1: cut kid, but he's also lying to his parents about
Speaker 1: where he is. He's lying to Pearl, he's and he's
Speaker 1: also I thought it was smart that they it was
Speaker 1: clear that Lonnie likes it like Lonnie is he was.
Speaker 2: One of the best.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really smart.
Speaker 3: Kind of grow to be like, well, there's aspects of
Speaker 3: to me like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the respect that I get immediately. I
Speaker 1: like being in the community.
Speaker 2: Like gang looking out for them, And I did.
Speaker 3: Really love how the payoff for that was that the
Speaker 3: gang leader who was using all these guys.
Speaker 2: You have Big Donald, who is a comic book character.
Speaker 3: He just leaves them in this really terrifying moment when
Speaker 3: they're fighting Scorpion, and which, by the way, another really
Speaker 3: fantastic character design. Really scary Scorpion is often kind of
Speaker 3: played for laughs, but he it was like Matt Gargan
Speaker 3: was really really a terrifying guy. We also got some
Speaker 3: cool other Scorpion stuff with like Camilla Black, she is
Speaker 3: the Scorpion currently she was running his street.
Speaker 2: Gang, and I, yeah, I was just really blown away.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jonathan Jordan Medina, who was an yest
Speaker 1: on the show Primo that I wrote on with Cha
Speaker 1: Serano and Mike Short and is the voice of MATC.
Speaker 2: Gargan, and he did such a great job, like just
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 3: And I really loved that we got this huge scorpion
Speaker 3: fight that ended with Peter almost having that moment of
Speaker 3: Peter is gonna go too far, He's gonna kill this guy,
Speaker 3: He's gonna take it, and it's Lonnie who stop. And
Speaker 3: I loved how much Peter's friendships were such a major
Speaker 3: major part of the show, because that is how it
Speaker 3: is in the comics and in the movies, Peter is
Speaker 3: often more focused on his love interests, or we get
Speaker 3: like a friendship with Harry that turns sour because of
Speaker 3: the Green Goblin. But here we really get to see
Speaker 3: that in the reality of being a teen superhero, who
Speaker 3: your friends there and who you have on your side
Speaker 3: is so important, and we end with a very cool team.
Speaker 1: That's a great point because I think we've set up
Speaker 1: a world in which it will be very meaningful when
Speaker 1: the love interest plot lines start happening, because we've already
Speaker 1: set up a world in which Peter is like, he's
Speaker 1: a busy guy. He's juggling a lot of things. He's
Speaker 1: juggling his crime fighting activities, with his career, with his students,
Speaker 1: with his stuff he's doing at school, with his home
Speaker 1: life without May, with his friends, and he's trying to
Speaker 1: keep secrets from some of them, not all of them,
Speaker 1: and jungle all these responsibilities. And I think when Gwen
Speaker 1: or Mary Jane or whoever enter the story, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really fun because we're set up in such a
Speaker 1: way that it's going to really mean something when Peter
Speaker 1: starts spending more time with this person and does he
Speaker 1: tell them the secret and exactly that stuff. It's going
Speaker 1: to be really fun.
Speaker 3: They do a really funny job here of establishing Peter's
Speaker 3: biggest problem, which is like he's so bad at time
Speaker 3: management that he always ends up pushing his crashes into
Speaker 3: the arms of other people. It happens with Pearl and Loni,
Speaker 3: it happens with Nico and Harry. He just can't be
Speaker 3: there and he can't make that balance work. So that
Speaker 3: already establishes that kind of big lead into what we'll
Speaker 3: probably start seeing in season two. Jason, what would your
Speaker 3: biggest wish be for a character or an arc that
Speaker 3: we get in season two?
Speaker 1: My biggest wish, God, I hope that they hold off
Speaker 1: on the multi dimensional Spider people for a long time.
Speaker 1: I think that a little bit of multiverse stuff to
Speaker 1: start the show is good, but I think like, let's
Speaker 1: just stay in this world for a while and the
Speaker 1: people that are here f's intimate. It's a fun story.
Speaker 1: And I thought that the you know, we see Spider Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, we see Iron Man making a
Speaker 1: high profile arrest of doctor Octavia is helping the Feds
Speaker 1: out with that one, and that was like just enough.
Speaker 1: Let's keep this street level, because to me, that's what
Speaker 1: kind of the peak Spider Man is is He's a
Speaker 1: street level guy, his rogues gallery, all of the drama
Speaker 1: there is very contained on the streets of New York,
Speaker 1: and let's not escalate it above that. Just yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think we need to see I don't think we
Speaker 1: need a lot of cameos. Let's just keep it focused
Speaker 1: on Spider Man and it's it's been a joy that way.
Speaker 2: What about you? I totally agree.
Speaker 3: I loved getting to see some of the people that
Speaker 3: Harry's like calling up. You know, we see Ned Leeds there,
Speaker 3: who if we get a version that's like the MCU
Speaker 3: could be one of Peter's best friends, or if not,
Speaker 3: it could just be a kind of reimagining of a Hobgoblin.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very excited. I agree with you, keep it small.
Speaker 3: I want to see more of Peter and Norman. I
Speaker 3: want to see more of Peter and Harry. I want
Speaker 3: to see more of Peter and Lonnie. I think that
Speaker 3: is obviously building some kind of sinister six which I
Speaker 3: think is really interesting. And I'm just more excited to
Speaker 3: see what this world has to offer because I do
Speaker 3: think that out of the Marvel animation stuff that we've gotten,
Speaker 3: this is up there. Like obviously X Men ninety seven
Speaker 3: is the bar. But for me, I do think that
Speaker 3: this is very, very crazy, and I think it fits.
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be one of those
Speaker 3: shows that they feel so nostalgic for, so excited for,
Speaker 3: and that's gonna kind of inspire them to be more
Speaker 3: interested and more excited about learning about Spider Man. Each
Speaker 3: of the issues are comic book titles. They can learn
Speaker 3: from them, they can read, they can decide what characters
Speaker 3: they like. There's going to be kids who want to
Speaker 3: read Runaways after this, and I think that's like one
Speaker 3: of the coolest things about this show.
Speaker 1: Well that's a good point because that one of the
Speaker 1: things I was thinking about is how how much stuff
Speaker 1: there is to do if considering the success of your
Speaker 1: Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, Marvel wants to make more of these.
Speaker 1: I mean think there's a young Avengers thing that they
Speaker 1: could do. I think that there's a regular Avengers story
Speaker 1: they could do. I think that there's a strange academy
Speaker 1: oh so cool Runaways to Runaways is a thing they
Speaker 1: could do. I think that there's you know, new mutants.
Speaker 1: I think that there is a lot cool right. I
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of ways that they could
Speaker 1: go with a other Marvel stories, with your friendly neighborhood
Speaker 1: spider Man type of execution, and that makes me really
Speaker 1: excited to think about something like that. Well, next week
Speaker 1: on x ray Vision, it's our very first book club meeting,
Speaker 1: where we'll be dissecting the ups and the downs of
Speaker 1: the classic Daredevil storyline Daredevil Born Again. And then on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we hop into the time machine and go all the
Speaker 1: way back to twenty fifteen to revisit the groundbreaking first
Speaker 1: season of Daredevil. On Netflix Thursday, we're doing something new.
Speaker 1: It's a competition show called Your Wrong Friend, in which
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to convince one another that the
Speaker 1: hot takes we have are actually good takes. They're cool
Speaker 1: takes because they should be. They should be mainstream takes.
Speaker 1: First Up, First Subject, Which Property Deserves or rewatch more
Speaker 1: The Defenders, Netflix's Team Up, Street Level Team Up television show,
Speaker 1: or Rosie's all time favorite Marvel movie The That's it
Speaker 1: for this episode, Thanks for the Fie. X ray Vision
Speaker 1: is hosted by Jason Spcion and Rosie Knight and is
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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Korfman.
Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abu Safar.
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