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Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for the finale and the

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Speaker 1: season of Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man on Disney Plus,

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Speaker 1: so be warned.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my name is Jasonconcepsi.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Wedsday Night and welcome back to the X ray.

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Speaker 1: Vision, the podcast where we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies,

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Speaker 1: comics and pop culture. Coming from my Heart podcast where

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Speaker 1: we'll bring you three episodes a week every Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and Thursday, and.

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Speaker 3: That today, sometimes Saturday, sometimes times sometimes four and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so lucky.

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, it's a Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man smorgas

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Speaker 3: board as we react to the final two episodes, Episode nine,

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Speaker 3: hero a Menace and episode ten Be My Destiny. And

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Speaker 3: we're also gonna look at the impact of this season

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Speaker 3: on the why to MCU, what does it mean? What

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Speaker 3: is this multiversal version of Pete? The Parker tell us

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Speaker 3: about what's coming next?

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Speaker 2: So excited for that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, episodes nine to ten in lieu of a recap,

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Speaker 1: we'll just let's just breeze through basically what happened and

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Speaker 1: then talk about our reactions and what we think the

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Speaker 1: impacts of some of these things are going to be

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Speaker 1: so Spider Man basically essues Norman's advice to that with

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Speaker 1: great power comes great respect. He gets a new suit

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Speaker 1: courtesy of Norman's son Harry, who started having basically holding

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Speaker 1: certainly play a role in the future Tombstone. Lonnie gets

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Speaker 1: his powers, and then he and Spiderman team up to

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Speaker 1: take down on the Scorpion and what is a fantastic fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he gets some classic style. We see the

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Speaker 3: de Ox three container and then Lonnie basically makes the

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Speaker 3: choice to help Spider Man. And we also see Big

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Speaker 3: the one ten gang and then they become Lonnie's gang,

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Speaker 3: and I think we'll see something interesting and subversive with

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Speaker 1: And then the final kind of like really fun circular

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Speaker 1: reveal of this season is that Norman's big Brain plan

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Speaker 1: is to create a Einstein Rosen Bridge Allah marvels the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to basically take all of the resources

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Speaker 3: he basically tricked the kids into making the parts for

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Speaker 2: But I'm an astro knew what it was. He was

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Speaker 1: Out, and that opens up a portal through which comes

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Speaker 1: the symbiote, which is how Spider Man gets his powers

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Speaker 1: have to being bitten by a spider from that universe,

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Speaker 1: as we saw in the beginning of this season, which

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Speaker 1: fun just thinking about what that means. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about what that means in everything that we've seen here

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Speaker 1: at What are the first things that you're just initial

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Speaker 2: I really loved this season.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was a very fun reveal because we

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Speaker 2: Again, a spider from another universe comes through, but.

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Speaker 3: Here we actually see it's just a spider from like

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Speaker 3: Strange comes Noman else Bourne's experimenting on the spiders. The

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Speaker 3: mean that there are many many timelines at this point, right.

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Speaker 1: So MC rules would suggest that there was an original

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Speaker 1: So it's such like a series of timelines that has

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Speaker 2: It's how does John Connor happen? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I will say this could easily be like a closed

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Speaker 2: I had to write an article at Esquire trying.

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Speaker 3: To explain it, like and I do I think that

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Speaker 1: I think I think you need these kind of I

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Speaker 1: Like the characters are just doing things that have already

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Speaker 3: What do you think about Norman's ark in this series,

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Speaker 3: because we really do get a different kind of Norman,

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Speaker 1: I really like the way you said something in you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, obviously I think he's a little

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Speaker 3: And also, I thought something that I loved about this

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Speaker 2: And I thought that one of the best moments.

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Speaker 2: But you get this moment where Peter is just like

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Speaker 3: And we see here that his desperation to be at

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Speaker 2: And I just thought they did such a good job

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Speaker 1: Something I found very interesting is that the Kovie Accords

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Speaker 1: So what's really interesting is that that means that the

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Speaker 3: Who did yeah, call in because we know that Spider

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Speaker 3: especially because when it was the first time we got

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Speaker 1: Serano and Mike Short and is the voice of MATC.

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Speaker 2: Gargan, and he did such a great job, like just

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Speaker 3: And I really loved that we got this huge scorpion

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Speaker 3: fight that ended with Peter almost having that moment of

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Speaker 3: Peter is gonna go too far, He's gonna kill this guy,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna take it, and it's Lonnie who stop. And

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Speaker 3: I loved how much Peter's friendships were such a major

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Speaker 3: major part of the show, because that is how it

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Speaker 3: is in the comics and in the movies, Peter is

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Speaker 3: often more focused on his love interests, or we get

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Speaker 3: like a friendship with Harry that turns sour because of

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Speaker 3: the Green Goblin. But here we really get to see

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Speaker 3: that in the reality of being a teen superhero, who

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Speaker 3: your friends there and who you have on your side

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Speaker 3: is so important, and we end with a very cool team.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point because I think we've set up

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Speaker 1: a world in which it will be very meaningful when

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Speaker 1: the love interest plot lines start happening, because we've already

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Speaker 1: set up a world in which Peter is like, he's

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Speaker 1: a busy guy. He's juggling a lot of things. He's

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Speaker 1: juggling his crime fighting activities, with his career, with his students,

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Speaker 1: with his stuff he's doing at school, with his home

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Speaker 1: life without May, with his friends, and he's trying to

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Speaker 1: keep secrets from some of them, not all of them,

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Speaker 1: and jungle all these responsibilities. And I think when Gwen

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Speaker 1: or Mary Jane or whoever enter the story, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really fun because we're set up in such a

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Speaker 1: way that it's going to really mean something when Peter

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Speaker 1: starts spending more time with this person and does he

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Speaker 1: tell them the secret and exactly that stuff. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be really fun.

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Speaker 3: They do a really funny job here of establishing Peter's

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Speaker 3: biggest problem, which is like he's so bad at time

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Speaker 3: management that he always ends up pushing his crashes into

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Speaker 3: the arms of other people. It happens with Pearl and Loni,

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Speaker 3: it happens with Nico and Harry. He just can't be

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Speaker 3: there and he can't make that balance work. So that

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Speaker 3: already establishes that kind of big lead into what we'll

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Speaker 3: probably start seeing in season two. Jason, what would your

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Speaker 3: biggest wish be for a character or an arc that

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Speaker 3: we get in season two?

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Speaker 1: My biggest wish, God, I hope that they hold off

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Speaker 1: on the multi dimensional Spider people for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think that a little bit of multiverse stuff to

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Speaker 1: start the show is good, but I think like, let's

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Speaker 1: just stay in this world for a while and the

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Speaker 1: people that are here f's intimate. It's a fun story.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that the you know, we see Spider Man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, we see Iron Man making a

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Speaker 1: high profile arrest of doctor Octavia is helping the Feds

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Speaker 1: out with that one, and that was like just enough.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep this street level, because to me, that's what

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Speaker 1: kind of the peak Spider Man is is He's a

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Speaker 1: street level guy, his rogues gallery, all of the drama

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Speaker 1: there is very contained on the streets of New York,

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Speaker 1: and let's not escalate it above that. Just yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we need to see I don't think we

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Speaker 1: need a lot of cameos. Let's just keep it focused

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Speaker 1: on Spider Man and it's it's been a joy that way.

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Speaker 2: What about you? I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: I loved getting to see some of the people that

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Speaker 3: Harry's like calling up. You know, we see Ned Leeds there,

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Speaker 3: who if we get a version that's like the MCU

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Speaker 3: could be one of Peter's best friends, or if not,

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Speaker 3: it could just be a kind of reimagining of a Hobgoblin.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm very excited. I agree with you, keep it small.

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Speaker 3: I want to see more of Peter and Norman. I

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Speaker 3: want to see more of Peter and Harry. I want

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Speaker 3: to see more of Peter and Lonnie. I think that

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Speaker 3: is obviously building some kind of sinister six which I

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Speaker 3: think is really interesting. And I'm just more excited to

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Speaker 3: see what this world has to offer because I do

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Speaker 3: think that out of the Marvel animation stuff that we've gotten,

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Speaker 3: this is up there. Like obviously X Men ninety seven

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Speaker 3: is the bar. But for me, I do think that

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Speaker 3: this is very, very crazy, and I think it fits.

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Speaker 3: I think this is going to be one of those

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Speaker 3: shows that they feel so nostalgic for, so excited for,

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Speaker 3: and that's gonna kind of inspire them to be more

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Speaker 3: interested and more excited about learning about Spider Man. Each

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Speaker 3: of the issues are comic book titles. They can learn

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Speaker 3: from them, they can read, they can decide what characters

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Speaker 3: they like. There's going to be kids who want to

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Speaker 3: read Runaways after this, and I think that's like one

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Speaker 3: of the coolest things about this show.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a good point because that one of the

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Speaker 1: things I was thinking about is how how much stuff

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Speaker 1: there is to do if considering the success of your

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Speaker 1: Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, Marvel wants to make more of these.

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Speaker 1: I mean think there's a young Avengers thing that they

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Speaker 1: could do. I think that there's a regular Avengers story

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Speaker 1: they could do. I think that there's a strange academy

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Speaker 1: oh so cool Runaways to Runaways is a thing they

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Speaker 1: could do. I think that there's you know, new mutants.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is a lot cool right. I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of ways that they could

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Speaker 1: go with a other Marvel stories, with your friendly neighborhood

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Speaker 1: spider Man type of execution, and that makes me really

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Speaker 1: excited to think about something like that. Well, next week

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Speaker 1: on x ray Vision, it's our very first book club meeting,

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Speaker 1: where we'll be dissecting the ups and the downs of

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Speaker 1: the classic Daredevil storyline Daredevil Born Again. And then on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we hop into the time machine and go all the

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Speaker 1: way back to twenty fifteen to revisit the groundbreaking first

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Speaker 1: season of Daredevil. On Netflix Thursday, we're doing something new.

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Speaker 1: It's a competition show called Your Wrong Friend, in which

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try to convince one another that the

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Speaker 1: hot takes we have are actually good takes. They're cool

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Speaker 1: takes because they should be. They should be mainstream takes.

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Speaker 1: First Up, First Subject, Which Property Deserves or rewatch more

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Speaker 1: The Defenders, Netflix's Team Up, Street Level Team Up television show,

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Speaker 1: or Rosie's all time favorite Marvel movie The That's it

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Speaker 1: for this episode, Thanks for the Fie. X ray Vision

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Speaker 1: is hosted by Jason Spcion and Rosie Knight and is

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Korfman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abu Safar.

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Speaker 3: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wag.

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Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and Heidi.

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Speaker 2: Our discord moderate, though