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Speaker 1: should be. So here we are on this extended fourth

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Speaker 1: of July holiday weekend, and Rich, I have some really

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Speaker 2: Talk to me, goose.

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Speaker 1: So today later today, I'm going to have a visitor

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Speaker 1: to my house. Now, yesterday my sister arrived with her husband,

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Speaker 1: my brother in law, from Iowa, Okay, and they are

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Speaker 1: here for the fourth of July celebration, which is also

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Speaker 1: my birthday.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Steve, Happy birthday America.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so it's make six to five. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a milestone birthday, no question about that. So there

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Speaker 1: was a birthday guy, Yes, yes, yes, So yesterday I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting here and uh and I was Sam Yes, Uh

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Speaker 1: boldly invited himself after all these years to come to

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Speaker 1: the Hartman House.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did.

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Speaker 1: To meet my sister. But more he wanted to just

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Speaker 1: sort of scan the place and really inspection, get the

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Speaker 1: full Steve Hartman impact. Maybe you know my my life.

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Speaker 1: He wants to see where I live.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's wholly appropriate. Given the amount

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Speaker 2: of time that we've known Sam, and that you've known Sam. Yes, uh,

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Speaker 2: the amount of hours that we've all worked together. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think it's high time that both Sam and I

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Speaker 2: visit the Hartman household. So this month, later this month, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a take a walk around the

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Speaker 2: habitat as well and take in whatever it is I

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Speaker 2: can I can take in to figure out how you've

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Speaker 2: become who you are.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, a lot of stuff is on full display.

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Speaker 1: There's other stuff that's very secret.

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Speaker 3: I'll be uh uncovering all of it. So in your closet, Steve,

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Speaker 3: I'll be going to your bathroom, into the master bedroom.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be like when Wolf Blitzer opened

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Speaker 2: al Capone's safe. Yes, on live television. It was empty.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that was will be Yeah, that was uh

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Speaker 1: uh Rivera, yeah Blitzer, they both Wolf Blitzer did afterwards.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Wolf still has that mustache man, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Goodness, So I will be opening Steve's house like a

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is something that's going to happen

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Speaker 1: later today. Uh, Sam actually works for a couple hours.

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Speaker 1: After we're done, I will be on my way and

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Speaker 1: then he's he's got for address and everything else, and

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Speaker 1: then Rich are you going to be there next week?

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Speaker 1: Is that the game plan?

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Speaker 2: Still, it does sound like the planet does sound.

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Speaker 1: Like the excellent you pass that with your beautiful bride.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she is on board.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. All right, Well I'm glad we open up

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Speaker 1: was talking to Denise about how many baked goods you

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Speaker 1: And so she was very anxious to make sure you're

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Speaker 1: and you are very welcome. And my sister, by the way,

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Speaker 1: very interested in him meeting a someone actually born in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: She's actually lived there longer than you have, right, and

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Speaker 4: Being alive, corn fed people, and she's still thin, very thin,

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Speaker 4: And that is that hard to believe that you can stay.

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Speaker 4: So Iowa, Yes, after forty years of living there, I

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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, that is where you are in a

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Speaker 1: So it is the fourth of July extended weekend with

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Speaker 2: I believe? So yeah, I think we already had the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the hot dog was today, the Sunday, instead of

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Speaker 2: Well, what's so crazy is Tuesday. I haven't made official

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Speaker 2: gave me a recipe for burger patties that I have

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Speaker 2: I'll be making those burger patties on the grill. In

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Speaker 2: that's what the weekend looks like. What does the weekend

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, with my sister in town. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Sam's all dressed up today. Let's yesterday. He had that

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Speaker 1: But I know, I mean, we're entertaining this weekend, which

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Speaker 2: Who's doing the grilling? Who like? Most importantly a man?

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Speaker 1: We already did grill yesterday and I had nothing to

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Speaker 1: What is a really good meat? Give me, give me

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Speaker 1: Wagu? Does that sound right?

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Speaker 1: We had some Wagu burgers and then we had some

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with that. That was grilled

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Speaker 2: If anybody wants to challenge themselves. One of the things

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Speaker 2: when you're making a patty, right, you know, normally you

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Speaker 2: make it about, I don't know, a quarter inch, then

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Speaker 2: take yourself some of the shredded cheddar or the American

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Listen, I've never met God, but I

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Speaker 1: Did you start talking to the like it was God?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hell yeah, Like it feels like the Heaven's

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Speaker 1: So uh and uh, I'm on Monday's a free day,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot going on, but no bigger

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Speaker 1: So that's what's gonna happen. There a lot, we got

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Speaker 1: a quick overview from you, Rich, because now that the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the one of the lower

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Speaker 2: I felt like was a coup. Now the Lakers can

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Speaker 2: Western Conference finals. And I know everybody will say, hey, Rich, well,

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Speaker 2: the Lakers got swept. How could you even say that?

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Speaker 2: That makes zero sense? But not so fast watch those games,

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Speaker 2: I think that the salary restrictions that it felt like

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Speaker 2: we're going to be placed on the Lakers if they

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Speaker 2: had to sign Reeves for something nearing or over nine

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Speaker 1: We'll get into detail on this. I'm not as sold.

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Speaker 1: I'm not completely against that idea. They did what they

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Speaker 1: they got the right guy sign for the future.

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Speaker 5: Going great, gentlemen, and the happy fourth of July. Happy

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Speaker 5: Of course, Canada day was yesterday. We had the free

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Speaker 5: training from a PhD in organizational behavior and business negotiation,

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Speaker 5: because there is not going to be a higher stakes

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Speaker 5: or more fascinating negotiation and pro sports, in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: than these free agent talks with showy Otani.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to see our first four hundred batting

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Speaker 2: average since nineteen forty one this season?

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Speaker 5: Rich great question. I think the odds are still against it,

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Speaker 5: but Luis Arias is sure making it interesting, and I

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Speaker 5: want to make sure that we appreciate what he's doing

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Speaker 5: even if the first number of his batting average when

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Speaker 5: the year is done is not four but three, because

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Speaker 5: if you bet three, eighty three, eighty five, three seventy five,

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Speaker 5: those are all completely extraordinary numbers. And so I think

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Speaker 5: that the odds of it happening. We've seen him taper

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Speaker 5: off a little bit in the last week. And that's

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Speaker 5: what's so hard about this that any week long slump

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Speaker 5: is magnified because that number is so easily attained or

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Speaker 5: available to all of us as we talk about it,

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Speaker 5: it's interesting. It's almost as though there's more pressure on

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Speaker 5: someone batting four hundred than it is someone chasing for

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Speaker 5: you a big number of home runs fifty to fifty five,

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Speaker 5: sixty sixty two, as we saw with Judge. Because with

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Speaker 5: the home runs, it's not always it's not always right

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Speaker 5: in front of you what your pace is. Necessarily, it's

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Speaker 5: not in every scoreboard in every league, everywhere, in every ballpark,

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Speaker 5: whereas the batting average is quite literally what you're on

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Speaker 5: face to do, and it's in front of you every

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Speaker 5: time you step on the field everywhere. So it's an

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Speaker 5: interesting debate. I think that Rias has done as well

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Speaker 5: as any modern hitter has done. The odds are probably

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Speaker 5: against him deck you get to four hundred, but my goodness,

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Speaker 5: it has been fun to watch and I hope we

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Speaker 5: appreciate the artistry that he produces with the baseball bat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the challenge for him is and going back to

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Speaker 1: Ted Williams four h six season back in nineteen forty one,

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Speaker 1: that year Ted Williams on base percentage was five fifty three. Wow,

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Speaker 1: he walked one hundred and forty seven times and get this,

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Speaker 1: struck out twenty seven times, right, Oh, yeah, well just

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Speaker 1: say I mean, when you start throwing numbers out like that,

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Speaker 1: you understand it's a super human like Ted Williams was, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's able to pull that off. But all those walks

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Speaker 1: obviously are key to limit the numbumber of the bats.

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Speaker 1: When you don't get a lot of walks, then you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to have two and fifty two and

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Speaker 1: sixty hits.

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Speaker 5: Correct and Steve to your point, it's a very good

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Speaker 5: point that you make. Let's also reflect on this, and

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Speaker 5: this is no disrespect to mister Williams, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure how many ninety one or ninety two

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Speaker 5: mile an hour sliders he was facing back in nineteen

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Speaker 5: forty six, right, Okay, that like that, Like, pitching has

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Speaker 5: changed a lot, and I would bet if you totaled up.

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Speaker 5: I think one of the other big time benchmarks is

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Speaker 5: look at how many different pitchers Williams faced. There was

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Speaker 5: no inter league play, the modern iteration of the bullpen

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Speaker 5: had not yet existed, so he was facing the same

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Speaker 5: pitchers over and over and over again. He was facing

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Speaker 5: guys who were tired in the seventh or eighth or

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Speaker 5: ninth inning, who were starters potentially, whereas now Arayas is

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Speaker 5: facing the sliders and the splinters and the ghosts forkball

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Speaker 5: and four seemers at one hundred and one mile an hour.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just the game. And that's why to me,

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Speaker 5: the game's changed so much. And I would never take

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Speaker 5: away what Williams achieved in his era, but objectively, by

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Speaker 5: any measure and orders of magnitude, it is much more

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Speaker 5: difficulty in baseball now than it was when Williams did.

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Speaker 5: It just is because of the quality of stuff that

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Speaker 5: you face and the number of different looks you're trying

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Speaker 5: to prepare for. Williams new I'm facing. I'm facing a

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Speaker 5: certain picture today from the New York Yankees. That's who

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Speaker 5: I'm going to face. And now it's okay, which of

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Speaker 5: the twelve arms that all throw one hundred miles an

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Speaker 5: hour am I going to face today? If you're so

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Speaker 5: totally different.

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Speaker 1: Circumstances, why I wish Ted Williams was here to answer

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Speaker 1: back to you. JP welcome, Yes.

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Speaker 5: I would welcome that conversation. I think that what I

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Speaker 5: said was all very factual and respectful, but I would

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Speaker 5: I would welcome his rejoinder.

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: He would have a retort that would be for sure. JP.

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Speaker 1: All the best for you and your family on this

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Speaker 1: fourth of July extended holiday weekend. Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, gentlemen. Happy Independence Day. Maybe we

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Speaker 5: all celebrate our country here in the next couple of days,

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Speaker 5: and how grateful we are to live here. So thanks

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Speaker 5: so much. You guys, all the best, and have one

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Speaker 5: holiday weekend with your families as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, you as well, JP, John Paul Morossi joining us.

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Speaker 1: Right there are Fox Sports Radio MLB insider. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's find out what's trending right now, we put it

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Speaker 1: off extended time with JP, and now bring on. We've

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Speaker 1: known this from the get go about Monse, but now

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Speaker 1: her star power has gone next level here as she

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Speaker 1: entire lexicon of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's just I mean, let's be very honest in sports

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Speaker 2: talk radio altogether, right, I mean, we're worried about her

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Speaker 2: leaving us in trade or free agent. Believe me, no, no.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm not going anyway.

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Speaker 1: How was it hanging out, you know, sitting where you are?

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Speaker 7: I literally was sitting where exactly you are right now.

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Speaker 7: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 8: It's a lot of fun, Dan Bayern, I had a

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Speaker 8: good time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 7: Yes we did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, thank you.

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Speaker 7: It was a good time.

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Speaker 1: Over the course of today's Sean, I want to get

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Speaker 1: into more detail about some of the segments you guys

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Speaker 1: did creator stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you didn't do like Dan today rehashing the history

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Speaker 1: of the Brady Bunch.

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Speaker 7: No, we definitely did not. I would have veto. I

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Speaker 7: would have been like, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoyed that because I actually grew up

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Speaker 1: with a Brady Bunch. But yeah, the.

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Speaker 8: House is still there, you know, like there's always security there.

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Speaker 1: There's Yeah, there's always.

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Speaker 7: A security card there, like I can. It makes me

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Speaker 7: laugh because it looks like nobody's in there, but they're

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Speaker 7: watching the house, that is for sure.

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Speaker 8: And right now, we've got a bunch of baseball games

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Speaker 8: that are about to start, including the Marlins.

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Speaker 7: To see if Luis aries.

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Speaker 8: Right now, his batting average going into today's game is

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Speaker 8: three eighty eight.

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Speaker 7: They are playing the Braves Solid one.

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Speaker 8: I actually spoke to John Morosi on Thursday and we

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Speaker 8: talked to about him, and I asked him in Spanish,

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Speaker 8: or I didn't ask him in Spanish.

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Speaker 7: I was like, is he the real deal? And he

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Speaker 7: responded in Spanish he said lab. I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 7: all right, you know he's the truth.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he said he is real yes, But I

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Speaker 8: laughed so hard. I didn't know that's how he was

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Speaker 8: gonna respond, but he did say he is the real deal,

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Speaker 8: and I was like, okay, okay. But finally the Twins

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Speaker 8: are on the scoreboard against the Orioles. This game has

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Speaker 8: been going on. It's the bottom of the six inning.

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Speaker 8: Willie Castro with an RBI double to put Minnesota up,

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Speaker 8: So they're up one zero against Baltimore again, bottom of

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Speaker 8: the six inning. The rest of the games are going on.

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Speaker 8: What is trending, specifically Damian Lillard. Obviously we don't know

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Speaker 8: what he's gonna do, but his most recent tweet that

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Speaker 8: is liked by Damian Lillard is by an account that

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Speaker 8: is a fan of Damian Lillard and the Blazers. But

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Speaker 8: this is the tweet that was liked, quote, need Dave

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Speaker 8: to pull some Lebron type blank goes to Miami, win

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Speaker 8: a couple rings, then come back home and win it.

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Speaker 7: Portland. This is for you, and Damian Lillard liked this tweet.

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Speaker 8: It's the most recent tweet liked by Damian Lillard, so

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Speaker 8: maybe it is a sign of what is to come.

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Speaker 8: The Athletic reported earlier today that Jordan Clarkson is finalizing

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Speaker 8: a three year deal fifty five million dollar extension with

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Speaker 8: the Utah Jazz. It's going to extend through the twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty five twenty twenty six season. The final round at

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Speaker 8: the Rocket Mortgage Classic continues and right now Colin Morrik

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Speaker 8: Khawa is alone at the top of the leaderboard. We

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Speaker 8: just had a three way tie, not anymore. Colin is

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Speaker 8: alone on twenty four under par. Ricky Fowler Adam Hadwin

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Speaker 7: This is the final round. Back to you guys, All.

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Speaker 1: the world. Absolutely. Hey, we're gonna have a lot to

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Speaker 1: say about this whole Damian Lillard situation. But I'm reminded

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Speaker 1: almost identical situation with Kevin Durant and the Nets where

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Speaker 1: he was demanding in trade publicly he wanted out, and

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Speaker 1: I remember at the time insisting that Joe sigh because

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Speaker 1: he had multi years left on his contract. See, it's

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Speaker 1: one thing when you have, you know, a disgruntled superstars

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Speaker 1: in the last year of his deal saying trade me,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, fine, we'll trade you, because otherwise

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Speaker 1: you're going to walk away and we're gonna get nothing.

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Speaker 1: But Durant had multi years on his contract. Same thing

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Speaker 1: with Damian Lillard. He has two fully guaranteed years remaining

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Speaker 1: and then a player option forget this sixty two million

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Speaker 1: dollars sixty two million in the twenty six twenty seven season.

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Speaker 1: So he's fully under contract right now. As far as

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Speaker 1: the Blazer's a concern, and if you read between the

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Speaker 1: lines what the Blazers have said publicly, they acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: Lillard has requested at trade and their response was, as always,

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Speaker 1: we're going to do what's best for the team, So

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Speaker 1: they're not going to give away Damian Lillard. And everyone's

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Speaker 1: talking about the Miami Heat. The Heat don't have enough

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Speaker 1: to offer. If at a Baio and Butler off the table,

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00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: they don't have enough. They would have to get multiple

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Speaker 1: teams to put together at least four number one picks

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Speaker 1: in addition to whether it's a Tyler Hero or Duncan

656
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Speaker 1: Robinson or even a Homi Hokaz Junior or Caleb Martin.

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Speaker 1: That's what Portland is looking for in exchange for Damian Lillard,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, I don't blame them, so I'm I'm still

659
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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent convinced here Rich, but the deal

660
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Speaker 1: can actually get done that Portland is happy with to

661
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Speaker 1: trade Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't disagree with you, But I also

663
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to get everything they want because

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Speaker 2: that's not how negotiations work. You know. It happens often

665
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Speaker 2: in every sport, in every league, where a team you know,

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Speaker 2: puts out its demands and the trade when it actually

667
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: is consummated, it pales in comparison to the original demands.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what kind of market there is for Dame

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Speaker 2: Lillard with that sort of demand attached to him, I

670
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: don't think that he'll go for that much. I think

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00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: that Miami is one of the few teams that he

672
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: would actually consider going to in the first place, and

673
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: it seems like they're interested. It's just a matter of

674
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Speaker 2: how interested. Because if you want to open the window

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Speaker 2: for a very short period of time and leverage a

676
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Speaker 2: lot of what could be a bright future for Miami

677
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: to get Damian Lillard through the doors, well, I mean,

678
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: have at it. I guess you could overpay in the

679
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: short term, but in the long run, if they end

680
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: up winning an NBA championship, you say to yourself, well,

681
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: it's all worth it. It's all justified. But yeah, I

682
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: just don't see them parting with that much capital to

683
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: get Dame because Dame, while he's great, is an aging superstar.

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Speaker 2: He'll be playing for his first new team in his

685
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Speaker 2: NBA career, which can be a little disjointing for certain players.

686
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if I'd be willing to bet

687
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Speaker 2: the farm that putting him together with Jimmy Butler in

688
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: South Beach is going to be the magical elixir to

689
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: get over the hump in the East or to win

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: an NBA championship. Ultimately what they're looking to do.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, if you look at

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00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: some recent history here Rich in terms of trying to

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Speaker 1: put together the superstar trios, you know, we can go

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Speaker 1: back to when it was working. Like we go back

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Speaker 1: to the Celtics in eight, you know, with Kevin Garnett

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00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: and you know, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. That work,

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00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: they won a championship. And obviously when Lebron went to

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00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: Miami that worked, and then he came back to Cleveland

699
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: that worked. There was this run and then the Durant

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Speaker 1: things sort of was a little different obviously because he

701
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Speaker 1: was joining a Golden State Warrior team that was you know,

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Speaker 1: just when they just won seventy three games and won

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00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: a championship the year before. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: some of the recent guys, you know, demanding I want

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00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: to go there or here there and everything else. And

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Speaker 1: let's just go back to the Phoenix situation with Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: They gutted their roster of a sixty four win team

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00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: to bring in Kevin Durant. And how did that go

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Speaker 1: this year?

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say I will say this though they

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Speaker 2: only had only they had two stars Booker and Durant.

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Speaker 2: Ayton's not ready to really be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul, Yeah, I mean Paul's not a star.

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Speaker 2: Compared to Devin Booker and Kevin Durant NBA score.

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Speaker 1: Oh like that?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I mean he can still facilitate,

717
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Speaker 2: but he's too often injured and when he's available, he's

718
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Speaker 2: not He's not Kevin Durant during Lob City days in LA.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that ship has sailed. He's not a

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Speaker 2: He's not a star in this league like Damian Lillard is,

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Speaker 2: for example.

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Speaker 1: Before Durant arrived, though, he was top five MVP with Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: When Chris Paul got to Phoenix, he had a huge

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Speaker 1: impact on that franchise.

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Speaker 2: He had a I I think he came to Phoenix

727
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Speaker 2: at the exact right time because it was the tail

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Speaker 2: end of his most capable years. He had a tremendous

729
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Speaker 2: veteran role. He and Monty Williams actually think the pairing

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Speaker 2: was really good for a young Phoenix Sons team that

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Speaker 2: needed to build a culture. Now, I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if mine Williams would be the perfect fit

733
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Speaker 2: for today's Phoenix Suns but they've moved on from him,

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Speaker 2: They've moved on from Paul, and now they have their

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Speaker 2: their their uh super Friends cast with Beal and Booker

736
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Speaker 2: and Durant. We'll see if they can contend in the West.

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Speaker 2: I look at it this way. At very least, you

738
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Speaker 2: need to have three superstars to compete in the NBA anymore.

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Speaker 2: If you don't, you need to have really a once

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Speaker 2: in a generation player, which is what we're looking at

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Speaker 2: with you, O Kitchen.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, then that would leave out the Lakers,

743
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Speaker 1: although I want to get to their makeup of their

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Speaker 1: team and why they might be m disappointed. We'll tell

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Speaker 1: on the Monday, so enjoy all of that. One of

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Speaker 1: the highlights, obviously at the Fourth of July Holiday from

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Speaker 1: a sports standpoint, is the Nathan's Famous hot Dog eating contest,

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Speaker 1: which Joey Chestnut is one fifteen of the last sixteen years.

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Speaker 1: Do you look at him, because I know you've partaken

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Speaker 1: in many eating challenges yourself, Rich sure, do you look

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Speaker 1: at a guy like Joey Chestnut? Obviously his dominance speaks

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Speaker 1: for itself. But do you view him as an athlete?

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Speaker 1: Because obviously this contest is featured on a sports network

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Speaker 1: every single year. Do you look at Joey Chestnut as

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Speaker 1: a athlete?

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Speaker 2: That is such an interesting question. Well, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I look at him as an athlete. I think that

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Speaker 2: a competitive veater could also be an athlete. But I

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Speaker 2: don't look at a competitive ever eater as being an athlete.

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Speaker 2: For the skill of competitive eating, I think it's something

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know what to call it.

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Speaker 2: I guess it is a skill. It's an unbelievable talent

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Speaker 2: to be able to have the elasticity of the organ

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Speaker 2: tissue in your stomach to allow you to jam seventy

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Speaker 2: five plus hot dogs down your throat. That doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: to make sense to my brain. But he's capable of

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Speaker 2: doing it. And I mean he's the odds on favorite.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming I haven't looked at the books that actually

782
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Speaker 2: carry odds for this contest, but my guess is he's

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Speaker 2: the odds on favorite to win again. He is.

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Speaker 1: The only time he has lost over the last sixteen

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Speaker 1: years was back in twenty fifteen when he was upset

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Speaker 1: by Matt Stoney. Matt Stoney's like the Buster Douglas, you know,

787
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Speaker 1: when he upset Tyson. I was looking at some of

788
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Speaker 1: the things that Matt Stony, who is still around, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily competing in the hot dog eating contest because he

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Speaker 1: did it. I mean, he beat Joey Chestnut at the

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Speaker 1: height of his power. But I'm looking at some of

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Speaker 1: the things he participated in. Okay, let me throw a

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Speaker 1: couple of these at you. Rich see if you could

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Speaker 1: tackle some of these. Back in twenty fifteen, Matt Stony,

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Speaker 1: who by the way, is five foot eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty five pounds.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: He was in Daytona Beach and in five minutes he

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Speaker 1: consumed one hundred and eighty two slices of bacon. Good lord,

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Speaker 1: in five minutes. He once had one hundred and three

801
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: carne asada tacos in eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think already, like one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: two slices of bacon, right, like if you figure, like like,

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Speaker 2: if you figure ten slices of bacon, like thick slices

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Speaker 2: of bacon is a pound, right, that means that he

806
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Speaker 2: had eighteen pounds of bacon.

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Speaker 1: In five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Good lord?

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Speaker 1: All right, how about this? He actually have you've heard

810
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: of the heart attack grill? Oh yeah, yeah, vegas right

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00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeahh In four minutes and ten seconds, he

812
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: consumed a twenty thousand calorie burger. What I'm curious about

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00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: always when I hear these sum totals, because when you

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Speaker 1: think about Joey Chestnuts record, I think it's seventy six

815
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: dogs and buns, remember that, And so he usually soaks

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00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: up the buns and eats them separately from the dogs,

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Speaker 1: but just the seventy six dogs. Yeah, somebody was trying

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Speaker 1: to compute just the sodium intake, right, How how are

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00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: these guys alive? Is what I want to know. You

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00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: already eat one hundred and eighty two slices of bacon

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Speaker 1: in five minutes, or one hundred and three carneias saded

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Speaker 1: tacos in eight minutes, or a twenty thousand calorie burger

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Speaker 1: in four minutes. Because it's not just that they go in,

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00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: they have to come out, that's right. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And so we talk about specific training for sports, like

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Speaker 1: you know, every sport had its unique training methods based

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Speaker 1: on what is required of your body to perform at

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Speaker 1: a high level in a certain sport. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you train your body for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've looked this up in years past. The

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Speaker 2: training and preparation for these competitions involves eaters undergoing rigorous

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Speaker 2: training in order to stretch out their stomach. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: like like I was talking about early, like stomach elasticity

834
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Speaker 2: is really the key to all of this.

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Speaker 1: But you got to get that food out of your body,

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Speaker 1: because if your body absorbs that many calories or that

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00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: much sodium or fat or whatever it is, how does

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Speaker 1: it even survive well?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there are rules about this. Okay, so many

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00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: contests eaters here, let me look this up. Actually, okay,

841
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: here we go. In many contests, eaters are allowed to

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00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: dunk food in waters or other liquids to soften the

843
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: foods make it easier to chew and swallow. Dunking typically

844
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Speaker 2: takes place with a food or a bun or other

845
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: doe parts. Professional contests enforce limits on the number of

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00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: times competitors can be allowed to dunk food. Okay, here

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Speaker 2: it is competitors are required to maintain a relatively clean

848
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Speaker 2: eating surface. No, okay, how about this. At any point

849
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Speaker 2: during the immediately or immediately after the contest, a competitor

850
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: regurgitates any of the food, he or she will be disqualified.

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: None of these our women do.

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00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: Vomiting, also known as a reversal or as ESPN, and

853
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: the Nathan hot Dogs eating Contest calls a reversal fortune,

854
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: includes obvious signs of vomiting, as well as small amounts

855
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: of any food that may fall from the mouth, deemed

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00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: from the judges who have come from the stomach small

857
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: amounts of food. But there is a point after the contest.

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00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: I've read this before. It's not in this article I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at now, where if the eater completes the task

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Speaker 2: and they have gone past a certain allotted time, they

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Speaker 2: are then allowed to reverse what they've done.

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Speaker 1: Do they get their stomachs pumped or what happens? I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how the body can absorb that.

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00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Well, they you can't, Like you said, the amount of sodium, you.

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Speaker 1: Can't, I mean, seventy six hot dogs.

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00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: No, you can't do it. I mean you basically would

867
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: undergo hot dog poisoning trying to process all right? You know?

868
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think will.

869
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: People will die by consuming too much water?

870
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's such thing as water poisoning.

871
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's less downing seventy six hot

872
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: dogs or twenty thousand gallery burger.

873
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hyperhydrosis. When it's water, it's hyper hog dosis,

874
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: I believe when it's hot dogs. The point I'm trying

875
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: to make, though, is they do allow them to to

876
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: regurgitate all the contents of their stomach at some point afterwards,

877
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: because if they didn't, we would see these people dropping

878
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: like flos. They'd have to yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The

879
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: other thing is, like, what's so fascinating is the different

880
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: training methods that these people employ, because we were just

881
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: talking about hyperhydrosis, Like there are certain competitors eaters who

882
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: will drink massive amounts of water and it's just again,

883
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: it's just to stretch out their stomach tissue, and then

884
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: they're going to obviously not allow their body to process

885
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: that because they'll be poisoned by the amount of water.

886
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: So they get rid of that. They're almost like flushing

887
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: their system before they eat these they go to these

888
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: competitive eating contests. It almost feels like, I don't want

889
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: to say anybody can do this, because that would be

890
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: belittling the event. But if you were committed, say you

891
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: were a person who could overindulge in the first place,

892
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: like you just found yourself to never really be satiated

893
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: by food, and then you find yourself able to withstand

894
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: the discomfort in the short term to fill your stomach

895
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: to the absolute capacity. I mean, then this event is

896
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: for you. And I don't know what Joey Chestnut makes,

897
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how much money and salary or

898
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: the take home persons are. I imagine some of these

899
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 2: eating competitions. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars

900
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: the Nathan's Hot Dog contests. I bet you is at

901
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: least a six figure take home for the winner. I mean,

902
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: that's a that's an annual salary. All you gotta do.

903
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: You're on the clock for ten minutes. That's it, all right.

904
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: Some of the world records that Chestnut owns.

905
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear it.

906
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty two chicken wings in thirty minutes.

907
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: That's a world record. How about this one? Ninety five

908
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Philly cheese steaks sandwiches in ten minutes.

909
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: Ninety five Philly cheese steaks.

910
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: Yes, here's one down your guys alley. Here a taco bell.

911
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Fifty three soft beef tacos in ten minutes.

912
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: Soft beef tacos.

913
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: Man, Then that's sounding like you could break in. You know,

914
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: that sounds doable. Ryan is here, by the way, we

915
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: never know when Ryan is going to be here. Ryan,

916
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: we've seen you participate in a lot of I mean,

917
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: Sam obviously legendary and actually in her own way, I

918
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: think Moncey as well has had some eating challenges. Here

919
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: sixty two sliders pulled pork sliders in ten minutes.

920
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh that does that does sound like a lot of sliders.

921
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: How about this one fifteen of gumbo the equivalent of

922
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: two gallons of gumbo in eight minutes.

923
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: See that's where it gets me. Is I mean anybody

924
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: anybody who's like down to quart of milk, you know,

925
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: like you're just thirsty. There's nothing else in the fridge.

926
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: Like your stomach feels full for like thirty minutes. You know,

927
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: imagine multiplying that by eight. But instead of it being milk,

928
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: it's shrimp and and we else is in gumbo. They

929
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: put the rice in there.

930
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the sausages and everything else.

931
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Sausage and dewey sausage.

932
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: Now you're a donu guy. In fact, everyone here is

933
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: a donut person. He has the record fifty five glazed

934
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: donuts in eight minutes. Fifty five.

935
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so listen to this. So here are the dangers.

936
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: I just found this on a different article. Negative health

937
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: effects of competitive eating include delayed stomach emptying, aspiration, pneumonia,

938
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: perforation of the stomach, and something that I've never heard

939
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: of called boer Have syndrome that I'm not. Oh, it's

940
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: a sophageal rupture. So that's the tube that carries food

941
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 2: from your mouth to your stomach that explodes. I you know, listen,

942
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: is it worth it? I guess is the question we

943
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: all have to ask ourselves. Is our entertainment worth the

944
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: potential dangers inflicted on these brave athletes? And now I've

945
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: changed my tune. I'm calling them athletes.

946
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, right, by the way, how about

947
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: raising canes with all of their chicken fingers? Right? Forty

948
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: four in five minutes?

949
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: How about this? In October of twenty twelve, Yeah, a

950
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 2: thirty two year old man died while competitively eating live

951
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: cockroaches and worms. The autopsy actually revealed he choked to death.

952
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like there was another choking incident

953
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: that resulted in the death of a sixty four year

954
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: old Australian competitive eater named Bruce Holland during a pie

955
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: eating contest. I mean, gentlemen and lady in our in

956
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: our hollowed halls here at Fox Sports Radio, Yeah, I

957
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: implore you to never go down the path of thinking

958
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: that competitive eating is your way to the top, because

959
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: it could put you six feet under.

960
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 12: Yeah, Steve, I want to mention a couple of things here.

961
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 12: First off, we have we have I believe last year's

962
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 12: hot dog gaining contest on TV again this last year

963
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 12: is not today. Yeah, And I love how when they

964
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 12: show the old broadcast they include all the promos, like

965
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 12: how they just promote oh, Mets Yankees tonight, No they're

966
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 12: not playing tonight, that they're not playing each other.

967
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: But also is there any actually thing happening today?

968
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 12: Just you know, handful of baseball? Did you see Joey

969
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 12: Chestnuts popcorn record? I did see this, that one. That

970
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 12: one terrifies me because I believe it's it's thirty two

971
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 12: twenty four ounce containers of popcorn in ten minutes or

972
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 12: eight minutes, eight minutes, So these.

973
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: Are thirty to twenty four ounce servings of popcorn in

974
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: eight minutes. Just now again, is that salted popcorn? I mean,

975
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: I guess it.

976
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: I assume it is.

977
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: You know, how about thirty two Big Max in thirty

978
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: eight minutes.

979
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: Psychiatrists and eating disorder specialist Kim Dennis has stated in

980
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: the past that somebody eating seventy hot dogs in ten

981
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: minutes is self abuse to some extent, and warn that

982
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: competitive eating carries risks with regards to development of an

983
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: eating disorder for people who have any sort of genetic

984
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: predisposition to have one. Yeah, So, I mean bolimia obviously

985
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: is a scorge on society as people struggle with their

986
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: weight and they're you know, the the you know, their

987
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: self image. This I don't. I mean, look, there are

988
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: dangers to playing football, man, you know, and I survived

989
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: six years in the NFL.

990
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: I love how suddenly you're tying competitive eating to football players.

991
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: I just don't know if we're giving these these individuals,

992
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: say it, athletes, athletes enough credit for the riggers and

993
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: the dangers of the performances that we take for granted.

994
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: Wow, I just it just it's amazing what the human

995
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: body can do.

996
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: It really is.

997
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why we admire athletes so much.

998
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: They can do things with their body that the normal

999
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: person can't do, and that includes those involved in competitive eating.

1000
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: All right. On the other side, I want to get

1001
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: away from that for just a moment, especially when you

1002
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: talk about regurgitating everything else.

1003
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: People eating breakfast on the West Coast, and I apologize

1004
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: for that.

1005
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: Did the Lakers have enough of a sample size to

1006
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: make the huge commitments they did to certain players? I

1007
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: want to break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

1008
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: During the last TV time out, Mark Sanchez is trying his.

1009
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: Best to hide a hot dog and eat it.

1010
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, is this what I think it is? Sam?

1011
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: It's a hot dog song if I ever heard it.

1012
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: Once again, this is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and

1013
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: Rich Rberger with you. We are alive from the tairak

1014
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: dot com studios. All right, I want to get to

1015
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: this Lakers off season in a moment here, but I

1016
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: do want to just wrap up this food talk with

1017
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: one one question for everybody here. If you were forced

1018
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: into a competitive eating contest and you had to consume

1019
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: a single food item in that contest, because we've given

1020
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: you a wide variety of world records by these guys,

1021
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: what would that food item be. I'm going to start

1022
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: with Monsey, So Moncey, if you were in a competitive

1023
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: food eating contest and it's a single old food item

1024
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: that you have to consume as much as you possibly can,

1025
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: what food item would that be?

1026
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 7: I feel like it's a terrible choice, but the heart

1027
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 7: wants what it wants. Pizza.

1028
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: It's pizza. Is it a cheese but just straight cheese.

1029
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 7: We're gonna go just straight cheese cheese pizza. Bring it.

1030
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: Could you could you eat a giant cheese pizza?

1031
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 7: I could eat I could eat a lot of pizza.

1032
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we give you like springs over lightly. You

1033
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: get that you've seen those giant pizzas.

1034
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: Actually, when we order, not to embarrass Monts, but when

1035
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: we order pizza on Fox Sports Radio, we order a

1036
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: pizza four months like for her alone. And then there's

1037
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: many times where she's looking quite quite wistfully at our

1038
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: pizzas after she's finished her own. And again this isn't

1039
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: too embarrassed, it's form.

1040
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: This is for sure. All right, Okay, Ryan, you're you're

1041
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: up next. So if you had a take a single

1042
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: food item that you would say, all right, I'll do it.

1043
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: I'll eat as much of this food item as I

1044
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: can possibly eat. Which item would it be?

1045
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 12: I think I would do chips and salsa, chips and sauce.

1046
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 12: That seems but it's because I don't. I don't know

1047
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 12: where my my limit is there?

1048
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So now ever a specific chip, a specific salsa,

1049
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty yeah.

1050
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 12: I could I could do any tortilla chip. Really, I

1051
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 12: I plow through the just the trader Joe's red salsa. Right,

1052
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 12: that tends to be my go to.

1053
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: And you basically have never actually reached your limit doing that. Yeah,

1054
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm still eating okay, so the al right, so that

1055
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: all right, Sam?

1056
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: How about you before I get to myself, we actually

1057
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: have exclusive audio of whenever we order Mansia pizza.

1058
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that's there.

1059
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 7: I love with cheese pizza just for me.

1060
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 3: There you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sounds a little

1061
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: different there. Yeah, so I'd have to say, probably like

1062
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: an individual if it was just like a bunch of

1063
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: case of dia wedges piled up like chicken case of

1064
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: do or even cheesecase of dea that mind. So yeah,

1065
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: the wedge just piled up, just the wedge as many

1066
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: as just piled up wedges, yet.

1067
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: Would have old chicken there or just the plain cheese.

1068
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: I think the chicken obviously is gonna film me up too.

1069
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, I like the chicken case of dio though.

1070
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: So these are interesting choices. Now, Rich actually is a

1071
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: competitive eater to some degree.

1072
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: He com he said he had. I mean, I've seen

1073
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: the man consume some food. Uh, and he is used

1074
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: to have what you called the cheat day that unfortunately

1075
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: would extend a cheat weeks and cheek months and so

1076
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: then that was a problem.

1077
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, defeated the point.

1078
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: But if it was a single food item that you

1079
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: had to choose in a competitive eating contest, the idea

1080
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: being I'm gonna consume as much of this single food

1081
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: item as I can possibly take in what item would

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Speaker 1: that be?

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01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm ashamed to say that. In my

1084
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: you know, as I've aged, I become so much more

1085
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: of a sweets eater. Yes, So if I were to

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01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: choose one, it would probably be charros. I love I

1087
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: love me some of the because it's the fried dough, right,

1088
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: But it's not just that. It's the sprinkling of the

1089
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: cinnamon and sugar. And here's the thing. If you give

1090
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: me cold churros, I will I will hit you with them.

1091
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: I would if I were in a competitive eating contest,

1092
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: I would want these churros to be like fresh out

1093
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: of the fryer. And I don't think that the heat

1094
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: would slow me down. I think I think it would

1095
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: just it would encourage because they're so delicious when they're warm,

1096
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: it would encourage more. Yeah, so churros is my final answer.

1097
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: I would have to say for myself. One could be

1098
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: red vines. I could probably I love red vines, but

1099
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: I would say if it was like a food food,

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01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: it would be some kind of street taco.

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01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: And I but I would want a variety. I mean,

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, but you know the classic you know, two

1104
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: bye street taco.

1105
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: Yep.

1106
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 3: Stud Just the idea of you being in a competitive

1107
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: eating contest is a paradox because you're always in moderation.

1108
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: I am, it's always not portion. Portion control is your mo.

1109
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: But he is one of the one of the things

1110
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't know about Steve is

1111
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: he is the fastest eater I've ever met in my life.

1112
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I have devoured the legendary orn Burger and essentially

1113
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: four bites.

1114
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a sprinter of eating, run out of gas

1115
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: and that's that's a pretty big burger.

1116
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, remind everyone on your classic orn burger, what's

1117
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: on that burger?

1118
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: A half pounds? I'll be patty American cheese, spicy jalapeno

1119
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: ranch with caramelized tomato on a brioche butt. That's right

1120
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: up my alley.

1121
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, are there too real?

1122
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: Are there two slices of bacon on it? Yeah?

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01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is? Yeah, And I'm like four bites. I

1124
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: consume that thing.

1125
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: He's like a cheetah. He doesn't breathe when he eats,

1126
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: and then he just lays down for a while.

1127
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. My idea about warm food is I

1128
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: want every bite to be warm. I have cold warm

1129
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: food is you know it's like food that's meant meant

1130
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: to be You have French fries. Yeah, nothing is worse

1131
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: than a.

1132
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 7: Cold from now at all. And you can't even eat

1133
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 7: him back up.

1134
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I really kind of so I'm

1135
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: with you one thousand percent. And so this ruins the

1136
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: idea of like of a drive through for me. You know,

1137
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: the whole purpose is to like, oh, you drive through,

1138
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: you get your food, you go home, you eat it.

1139
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: I I literally drive through, and then immediately I'm like,

1140
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't want the food to get cold on the

1141
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: drive home, So I just park the car and I

1142
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: eat mine right there in the drive in the parking lot.

1143
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: I should just go into the restaurant, but I do

1144
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: this every time.

1145
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: I've heard this. Are you ready for this? So In

1146
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 1: and Out, which is big here in southern California. Yeah,

1147
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: So their fries are good, but they they're thin, which

1148
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: means they can get cold, real quick. So I have

1149
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: friends that actually will go in and just get the fries,

1150
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: then get back in their car to get in line,

1151
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: and then eat all the fries and then order their

1152
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: burger or their drink then, so they eat the fries first,

1153
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: guaranteeing that every fry is going to be warm. These

1154
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: so they don't mix in the fries with the burger,

1155
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: because you eat the burger and you have your fries

1156
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: are standing there and they're cold.

1157
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: These are the people that have spent all their time

1158
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: thinking about like like, I mean, that is brilliant. What

1159
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is like I'm not I don't

1160
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't hate them because they get like that is

1161
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: a beautiful solution to a very complex problem.

1162
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm serious about this.

1163
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: I know people who should be waiting, who shouldn't be

1164
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: wasting their time on drive the lines. They should be

1165
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: shuring cancer.

1166
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, yeah.

1167
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: There is a thought process there. Right, I want fries,

1168
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: but I don't want coal fries. I mean these why

1169
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: eat all the fries first while I'm sitting in line?

1170
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: These are to get my burger visionaries and the critical

1171
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: thinkers we need running our country, not running around to

1172
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 2: the drive through with their fresh fries, like I need

1173
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: this level of thought put into the tax code.

1174
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I just you know, again, I want

1175
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: to get to some serious sports talk. But I just

1176
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: had to wrap this up because and honestly, none of

1177
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: you surprise me with your answers. I know you guys

1178
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: pretty well. Let's find out what's trending right now. So

1179
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: here she is. So you think you could take down

1180
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: the full giant mulberries?

1181
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 7: That one's pretty big. That one is, like, what would

1182
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 7: you say, like a large?

1183
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: Is the size of those eighteen inch bezza? That's a huge.

1184
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 8: That's a huge pizza. I could easily handle like a

1185
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 8: like a twelve inch pizza. Yeah, that's easy for me.

1186
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 8: That the mulberry. I would like to and I would

1187
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 8: take the challenge on would I hate myself after?

1188
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 7: Very possible, very very possible. But you know, only for

1189
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 7: a little bit, only for a little bit.

1190
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: Well, is there anything else going on today?

1191
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 8: There's a little bit of golf, the Rocky Mortgage Classic,

1192
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 8: and it actually ended in a three way tie, so

1193
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 8: they're headed to a playoff. Ricky Fowler, Adam Hadwin, Colin Morikawa,

1194
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 8: So they're headed to the playoff for that three way tie.

1195
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 8: They all ended at twenty four under par Let's move

1196
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 8: on to Major League Baseball because we already have a

1197
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 8: grand slam today by leftfielder Stone Garrett up the Washington Nationals.

1198
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 8: Phillies were up, but with that grand Slam, the Nationals

1199
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 8: are now up is four to three bottom of the

1200
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 8: third inning.

1201
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 7: Luis Araes has hit.

1202
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 8: In this game so far, so his batting average is

1203
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 8: three eighty nine right now, and the Marlins are beating

1204
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 8: the Braves two to one top of the fourth inning.

1205
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 8: Ronald Acuna Junior has stolen his thirty eighth base so

1206
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 8: far for this season, but the Braves are losing again.

1207
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 8: And then the Oriols tied the game against the Twins.

1208
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 8: They are tied at one apiece bottom of the eighth inning.

1209
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 8: In Baltimore, the Red Sox have taken the lead over

1210
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 8: the Blue Jays two to one. Bottom of the third inning.

1211
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 8: The Brewers were down, but not anymore. William Contrera's with

1212
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 8: a three run homer, Brewers beating the Pirates three to

1213
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 8: two bottom of the fourth inning. And in NBA news,

1214
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 8: a lot of free agency stuff happening, but this morning

1215
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 8: it was Jordan Clarkson finalizing a three year, fifty five

1216
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 8: million dollar extension to stay with the Utah Jazz, and

1217
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 8: ESPN reports that Philadelphia's asking price for James Harden is

1218
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 8: extremely high. So the seventy six ers are prepared to

1219
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 8: wait it out see what the best steal comes in

1220
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 8: order to accommodate Harden's trade request.

1221
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 7: Do we think he's actually going somewhere?

1222
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 11: Oh?

1223
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: I I And by the way, if he does go

1224
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: somewhere via his fourteen in four years, right, So the

1225
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: idea of Harden requesting a trade is a broken record.

1226
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 7: Correct.

1227
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: By the way, all the teams that have acquired him,

1228
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: how many rings does he have?

1229
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 7: Let me, I can't remember.

1230
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a big year, all right, yeah, probably, yeah,

1231
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: trying to But all right, well, monsie, thank you very much.

1232
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 4: Part of this girl from pizza, will you please see

1233
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 4: all right?

1234
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: Actually you missed it yesterday. There was a lot of

1235
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: pizza here, all right. So I want I do want

1236
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: to get to this Laker situation, rich and that is

1237
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: that the Lakers, essentially and they they delivered on what

1238
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: they promised, you know they were going to this was

1239
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: a team going absolutely nowhere, and they made several deals

1240
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: around the All Star Break, and they had the best

1241
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,959
Speaker 1: record in the NBA after the All Star Break, which

1242
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: was a small sample I think was only twenty five

1243
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: or so games. And then obviously it continued on into

1244
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: the postseason, getting all the way to the Western Conference

1245
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: Finals before getting swept by the Denver Nuggets. So the

1246
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: two main guys that emerged, I mean, because D'Angel Russell

1247
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: was expected to contribute and they have routine D'Angel Russell

1248
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: at a far lower price than he was making last year.

1249
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: But really Hatchamura and Austin Reeves were not on anyone's

1250
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: radar to have some kind of huge impact on the Lakers,

1251
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: especially in the postseason, but they did, and they've been

1252
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: rewarded with huge contracts. Both of them will now guaranteed

1253
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: over fifty million dollars over the course of their new deals.

1254
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money, takes care a lot of people,

1255
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: which we've had We've had this discussion before about NFL

1256
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: players who you know, after they exhaust their rookie contracts

1257
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: and they're they're seemingly on a roll, and they get

1258
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: rewarded with that huge contract. That's second contract, that's that's

1259
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: the deal breaker in terms of you know, you set

1260
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: for life, and there are certain athletes that continue to

1261
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: progress and take their game to another level, and then

1262
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: there are those that check out, got paid, got what

1263
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: I ultimately wanted. I'm a rich man, and I'm done

1264
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, continuously working hard to take

1265
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: my game to the next level. I'm not saying that's

1266
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: going to be the case of Hatchamuran Reeves, but it

1267
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: almost as human nature sometimes because we talk about this

1268
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: with our audiences for years. I mean, most people have

1269
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: the mindset that if I had fifty million dollars, man

1270
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: I am I'm partying man I Yeah, I ain't. I'm

1271
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna hang with the job, you know. Blah

1272
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. It's a risk. But my only

1273
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: question with those two guys is what they did in

1274
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: a limited amount of time. We're basically talking about games

1275
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: down the stretch, including the Poseason. Yeah, is that enough

1276
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: of a sample size for you to say we're all in,

1277
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: you're the guy and sign them to these multi year contracts.

1278
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: Are you convinced that that was a wise investment, at

1279
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: least in terms of Hatchamura and Reefs.

1280
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's the only move the Lakers had in terms

1281
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:30,480
Speaker 2: of securing their six deep. You know, uh, they obviously

1282
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 2: needed help, so they bring in Vincent and they they

1283
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: made a couple other signings around free agency, D'Angelo Russell.

1284
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: They got that deal done. Like you said, and Reeves

1285
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: and Hachama, you just you had no other choice. Yeah,

1286
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: you had. You had to get these deals done. And

1287
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: I think that they came in lower than a lot

1288
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: of people were speculating they would with with both of

1289
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: the contracts, I'm talking about cumulative cost. So that's a

1290
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: huge benefit. But in terms of the direct question you're asking,

1291
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: like how to gauge whether or not a player is

1292
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: going to work out on a second contract, the answer

1293
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: is you don't. And if you are the person out there,

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Speaker 2: you know, listening to this show, who can, you need

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Speaker 2: to stop what you're doing. You need to call up

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Speaker 2: every NBA team and get yourself a job in a

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Speaker 2: front office somewhere, because this has been an issue that's

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Speaker 2: plagued all of these franchises for years and years and years.

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Speaker 2: It's almost impossible. It's almost as difficult as the NBA draft. Now,

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01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: the NBA draft, I would argue, is more difficult because

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Speaker 2: you're trying to look at a college athlete and see

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Speaker 2: how they'd fit with your professional franchise against the professional

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Speaker 2: competition they're going to face on a night in, night out. Basis,

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Speaker 2: you already have a lot of that information when you're

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Speaker 2: resigning a high priority free agent or retaining a player

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Speaker 2: on your team with their first big contract after their

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Speaker 2: original signing. But it's very difficult, and so it comes

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Speaker 2: down to a lot of different things. What sort of

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Speaker 2: leadership you have in your franchise, and I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: from the player standpoint, what kind of culture is in place,

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Speaker 2: What type of player and personality are you dealing with.

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Speaker 2: Are you dealing with the guy who's going to stay

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Speaker 2: motivated and concentrating on his preparation, or is he going

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Speaker 2: to have that feeling of being satiated and that feeling

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Speaker 2: of well, I've arrived now and then the work starts

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Speaker 2: tailing off. I've played with both. I played with guys

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Speaker 2: who are internally motivated and they need no external motivation

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Speaker 2: in order to keep the engine moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: And I've played with guys who, quite frankly, they got

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Speaker 2: the big deal and they stop playing. They just stopped.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean think about it this way again,

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Speaker 1: in just normal people's terms. Imagine you're on a jo

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Speaker 1: and you're pretty much of nobody in your work, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the boss gives you an

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Speaker 1: opportunity and you kick ass for you for like two

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Speaker 1: three months, And you just kick ass for three months

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Speaker 1: and your boss hands you fifty million dollars guaranteed. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what just happened here for both these players.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I just it's fascinating to me because sports is so

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Speaker 1: different than the rest of the world out there. All right,

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Speaker 1: some other rumors that are going on right now, Let's

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Speaker 1: get into the Beard for a second here and James

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Speaker 1: Harden and exactly what value he would have to any

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Speaker 1: team in the NBA. This is Fox Sports Sunday. See,

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Speaker 1: I got involved in a little conversation off air. Hello

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Speaker 1: once again. Here we are Fox Sports Sunday. Hartman and

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Speaker 1: Ornberger with you once again, comingy live from the Tyraq

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Speaker 1: dot Com studios. Very busy time right now. Yeah, constantly

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Speaker 1: in conversation, you know, yeah, yeah, you know, Richard, Richard.

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Speaker 1: You know we've done so many shows over the years,

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Speaker 1: rich you know, afternoons, mornings, weekends, National local, everything else,

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Speaker 1: and our conversations never actually end when the mic goes,

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Speaker 1: If anything, it goes next level. Maybe we talk about

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Speaker 1: things we normally won't share on the air. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the beer James Harden for a moment here,

1347
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: because again, he to me becomes the poster boy of

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: where we're going with this idea of controlling your own destiny. Yep,

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Speaker 1: the idea that the NBA especially has made it possible

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Speaker 1: for these star players to dictate where they want to play,

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Speaker 1: when they want to play, with them really taking the

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Speaker 1: control away from owners. Now again, I I brought up

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: Joe ci lash year with Kevin Durant. As it turned out,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was not traded in the offseason no where,

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Speaker 1: nor was Kyrie Irving. Eventually they were traded, but they

1356
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Speaker 1: didn't get traded exactly when they wanted to get traded.

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Speaker 1: But if you're looking a guy like James Harden, we

1358
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: just saw him right and the Sixers playing the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple of insane games like you know,

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Speaker 1: forty points and you're like, wow, there he is James Harden,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, the next tame he would disappear.

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, if you were a team, you

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Speaker 1: could look at the numbers. He's obviously a first ballot

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, But are you ready to give up

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: prime capital in order to acquire the services of James Harden.

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Speaker 2: Well, it just depends on where you're at, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think James Harden, frankly, would be best suited on

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Speaker 2: a team with a bunch of young pop you know,

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Speaker 2: type players who need some seasoning and some help learning

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Speaker 2: the ranks of the NBA. And much like Chris Paul

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Speaker 2: who when he went to Phoenix, there was you know,

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Speaker 2: there was some conversation about how easier difficulty was to

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Speaker 2: work with, and I think it worked really well with

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Speaker 2: a team like that kind of on an upstart swing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be the case. I was

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Speaker 2: talking about this yesterday morning on Fox Sports Radio and

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Speaker 2: I kind of said, yeah, I could see him ending

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Speaker 2: up back in Houston or something like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: with a crew that really needs to sort of groom

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Speaker 2: some players into becoming better pros. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. I think, you know, when you look

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Speaker 2: at the odds, and I'm looking at I think it's

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Speaker 2: DraftKings here, They've got the Clippers at minus two hundred.

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Speaker 2: They got him.

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Speaker 1: Let's slow down right there? Yeah, okay, so the Clippers,

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing the same thing, Like the Clippers could put

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Speaker 1: together a reasonable package that the Sixers might be interesting

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Speaker 1: in in order to get James Harden. Right, So, if

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Speaker 1: you had James Harden with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George,

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Speaker 1: what are we looking at there?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you envisioning those three guys all again, all these

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Speaker 1: guys with future Hall of famers working in unison and

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Speaker 1: getting to the finish line or do you see a mess? Potentially?

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Speaker 2: I just look at that grouping as being a too

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Speaker 2: often injured to really make a championship run. And I

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Speaker 2: feel that way about Paul George and Kawhi Leonard individually

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Speaker 2: and together, let alone bringing in another aging superstar who

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Speaker 2: could add himself to the injury report on a nightly basis,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if the team will ever gel.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of my that's kind of my thought process,

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Speaker 2: is why he would fit with a younger squad like

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Speaker 2: Houston or something like that, who, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: in third place behind the Sixers on this DraftKings board

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Speaker 2: as being the most likely landing spot for James Harden,

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Speaker 2: and it would it make sense for him to go

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Speaker 2: back to Houston. Yeah, you know, it's the first team

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Speaker 2: that gave him a real shot to be a star

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Speaker 2: on the roster after being a six man and OKC,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, possibly, But I think the two most likely destinations,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put where he currently is at as

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Speaker 2: number one on the list is right where he is

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, or potentially if the Clippers want attempt fate

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Speaker 2: and bring him in that that could be a landing

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Speaker 2: spot too. I just don't I just don't know if

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, like you just said that you'd have

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Speaker 2: to divorce with to bring in James Harden, is worth

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Speaker 2: it to dash your long term success to bring in

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Speaker 2: James Harden, who you know has some game left in him,

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Speaker 2: There's no question, like you mentioned, we saw it in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. But is it worth it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the juice is worth the score.

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Speaker 1: Well, again, and when he was at his peak, when

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Speaker 1: he was a League MVP with the Rockets, he was

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Speaker 1: the most ball dominant player we've ever seen in the

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Speaker 1: history of the NBA, and that I mean this is

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Speaker 1: actually documented, like they actually counted how many times he

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Speaker 1: dribbled the basketball was more than twice than any other

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Speaker 1: player in the league. I mean, he basically completely controlled

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Speaker 1: the ball all the time. And that's when he was

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Speaker 1: a star. So in other words, in order to get

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Speaker 1: the most out and we even saw it during the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year.

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Speaker 2: What about the Heat.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I want to save that for

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Speaker 1: the next hour, because the Miami Heat, to me, are

1437
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: a very intriguing team. Now they say goodbye to Struss

1438
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: and they say goodbye to Gay Vincent, who's now a Laker.

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: This is a team that a year ago makes it

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Speaker 1: all the way to the NBA Finals and during the

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: regular season they were the lowest scoring team in the

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Speaker 1: entire league. Think about that lowest scoring team in the

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Speaker 1: entire league matted to the NBA Finals. How did you

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: do that? And talk about Chemist Street. How important is

1445
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: the actual chemistry for you to become a championship team.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We are having a lot of fun here another busy

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Speaker 1: Sunday in the sports world. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 1: congratulations a Ricky Fowler. Huh, Ricky Fowler finally wins a

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Speaker 1: golf tournament. He had not won any tournament in some

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Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, when Ricky first hit the scene, rich

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Speaker 1: I would be covering the golf tournament down there at

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Speaker 1: Torrey Pines, the annual golf tournament. And this is still

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Speaker 1: when he had like the you know, the long hair

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Speaker 1: and you know the colorful Puma gear that he was

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Speaker 1: all famous for and just a super guy. And everyone says,

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Speaker 1: with this complete falling off the face of the earth

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Speaker 1: over the last few years, that his demeanor never changed,

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Speaker 1: like he was still a fan favorite even if he

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Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't even qualifying for the Masters, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't qualifying for major golf championships. That's how far he

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Speaker 1: had fallen. And to see this guy, we saw him

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Speaker 1: obviously very competitive before the final round of the US Open,

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Speaker 1: and now he comes right back and winsdaday in that

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Speaker 1: playoff against Maricawa and hadwin to win his first tournament.

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Speaker 1: I think, I don't know how many tournaments he'd been,

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Speaker 1: like one hundred since his last win. So I like

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Speaker 1: when things happen like that, because you know, he's one

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Speaker 1: of those guys. There's no there's only one Tiger Woods.

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01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 1: I get that, but there are certain players in golf

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Speaker 1: that have a huge fan following, and I think Ricky

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Speaker 1: Fowler's definitely one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. And there's there's something about brushing

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Speaker 2: up against greatness and remembering kind of what what you

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Speaker 2: are in terms of being a competitor to get those

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Speaker 2: juices flowing again. And also there's something to be said

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Speaker 2: about maturity. There's plenty of stories throughout the course of

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Speaker 2: sports history where a guy started strong in his career

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Speaker 2: and then tailed off a little bit and then roared

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Speaker 2: back later in his career because you know, he or

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Speaker 2: she frankly figured out whatever it was that you know,

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Speaker 2: they needed to work on from a personal standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 2: And and the mistake that we all make is we

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Speaker 2: just assume that athletes are static, you know, meaning like

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Speaker 2: because they were great one year, they're going to be

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Speaker 2: great the next year, Or because you know they're bad

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Speaker 2: one season, you know the next year, well, it's just

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Speaker 2: going to be more of the same. Like that's not

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Speaker 2: the case. And we all know that in our own lives,

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Speaker 2: but for whatever reason when we think about sport or

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Speaker 2: we just we just assumed things and those assumptions are

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Speaker 2: are largely false or or you know, misappropriated. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like this is this is a story that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are waiting for Ricky Fowler fans especially,

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Speaker 2: This is a story that I'm sure he couldn't wait

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Speaker 2: to see, you know, the next chapter and when he

1505
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: would get back to his winning ways. So yeah, I

1506
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: agree with you. I think I from everything I know

1507
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: about Ricky Fowler, and I've heard this from a lot

1508
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: of people, and I know a lot of people who

1509
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: are closely tied to the golf world, he is one

1510
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,799
Speaker 2: of the nicest guys on tour, and so he's definitely

1511
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 2: an easy person to root for.

1512
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean he was, you know, even then

1513
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: he broke on the scene as a big star, huge

1514
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: amateur career and everything else, and he would come and

1515
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: join us every time, give his time, never short. He

1516
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: was just wonderful. So all the best thing. Congratulations are

1517
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler finally ending that losing streak in all these tournaments.

1518
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 1: He is back with the elite golfers again. Hey, I

1519
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: want to I want to get back to something I

1520
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: was talking about right before the top of the hour

1521
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: in trying to you know you, you mentioned as we

1522
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: look at all the NBA free agency, in the draft

1523
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: and all these teams trying to figure out the right

1524
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 1: formula to make a competitive run and win an NBA championship.

1525
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: If you look at the last three NBA champions you

1526
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: had the Milwaukee Bucks, who for the most part, were

1527
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: a homemade team. They had a nucleus of players and

1528
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: a coach that had been around for a while. Then

1529
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: we had the Golden State Warriors and their revival run

1530
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: to win another championship with essentially the core of their

1531
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: team intact from years before, and the majority of the

1532
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: team aside from that were young players they had drafted.

1533
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: And then we saw this year with the Denver Nuggets,

1534
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: very much a home made team. They had a few

1535
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: players like Bruce Brown was out of the team this year,

1536
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: a couple players, but the core of that team was

1537
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: home grown with a coach who had been in place

1538
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: for several years. To me, that seems to be a pattern, like,

1539
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: if you really want to build a championship team, you

1540
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: need patients more than anything else. You need to trust

1541
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: that the players that you select in the draft are

1542
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: the right players. That if you have a star player,

1543
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: you just make sure that they are getting everything they

1544
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: need to stay engaged. And then you have to have

1545
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: a certain consistency. We talk about the Miami Heat with

1546
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: pat Riley and Eric Spolstra. There's a consistency to how

1547
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: they want that team to operate. And so remember they

1548
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: were bringing in all these free agent rookies and they're producing,

1549
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 1: And I'd said, wow, look at that. It just the

1550
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: idea of chemistry, because you've been on teams that had

1551
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: great chemistry and you had teams that were had bad chemistry. Yeah,

1552
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: so when you're constructing a team in any sport, can

1553
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: chemistry because I'm trying to define chemistry, I mean just

1554
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: like you know the piece is fit, well, it's got

1555
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: to be more than that, right, I Mean, it's just

1556
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: because it's a team sport and so the pieces do

1557
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: have to fit. But explain for those of us that

1558
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: have not been at the professional sports level the difference

1559
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: between a team that has chemistry and one that does

1560
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: not have chemistry.

1561
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 2: Well, there are a lot of ways to arrive there,

1562
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: and I do think that homegrown talent, building through the draft,

1563
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 2: supplementing with free agents, and having a consistent voice at

1564
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: the top, you know, whether it be a coach or

1565
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: a general manager, but somebody in a place of power

1566
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,879
Speaker 2: that people respect. You know, a great deal is important,

1567
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of ways to get there.

1568
01:26:55,240 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: I will say this though, Chemistry is the most important

1569
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 2: part of winning. If you don't have a team that

1570
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: likes each other, you don't have a chance. It's like

1571
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: that old Boston Red Sox team that just was amazing

1572
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: but couldn't win the Big One. Twenty five players, twenty

1573
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 2: five taxis, postgame, whatever the old cliche was, it just

1574
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: you have you have certain teams that just that, just

1575
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, even if they're a collection of superstars,

1576
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: they can't stand being around each other. And so if

1577
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 2: you're just winning for yourself, if you're just trying to

1578
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: work to improve your own stat line, or if you're

1579
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: trying to to win because it gets you the next

1580
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: marketing endorsement like that is for whatever reason, and this

1581
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: is true with a lot of different professions. When you're

1582
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 2: in it for yourself, it's not nearly as rewarding when

1583
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: then then compared to when you really care about the

1584
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: guys or the people around you. And the best teams

1585
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 2: I played for, it felt like a brotherhood. It felt

1586
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 2: like there were people on those teams. And this is

1587
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: true in my life now because I'm long retired. Next

1588
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: year it'll be a decade out of the NFL, you know,

1589
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four I retired in twenty fourteen. There are

1590
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: still players that I played with on professional rosters who

1591
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: I stay in touch with today and I consider them

1592
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 2: among my best friends. And oddly many of them come

1593
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: from some of the best teams that I played on.

1594
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: It's just how it works. You know, when you have

1595
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 2: a certain level of success with people around you, it

1596
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: can lead to lasting friendships and memories and bonds and

1597
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: things like that. But also that's where it kind of

1598
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: starts in the first place, like do you like these

1599
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: people are not? And that is a very difficult thing

1600
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:50,799
Speaker 2: for a personnel official, a director of personnel, general manager

1601
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 2: to get right. But it is inarguably the secret sauce.

1602
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: It's the most important piece to the puzzle.

1603
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 1: You can overcome a How do I describe the person

1604
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I used to say this about certain that there's like ego,

1605
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: there is narcissism.

1606
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Sure, self interest, and then.

1607
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: Then you get to certain athletes to go even the

1608
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: next level. And with all due respect to the late

1609
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: great Kobe Bryant, in so many ways he was that

1610
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: he was an individual in a team sport. What the

1611
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: Lakers were able to do, especially in the post shack era,

1612
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: is really surround him with consummate team players. I mean

1613
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: Derek Fisher. It's no secret like the Lakers Kobe never

1614
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: won a championship without Derek Fisher, right, I mean ying

1615
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: to Yang, he did all this stuff. He was the

1616
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: guy that was that glue in the locker.

1617
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Room, the ultimate team guy, you know, I mean.

1618
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: He's he was the guy that could walk into that

1619
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Laker locker room and if something wasn't right, he would

1620
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: jump on it like he's a coach's dream, right, Because

1621
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: a coach doesn't always know a coach. There's a little

1622
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: bit of a separation. You always hear about, you know,

1623
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: he's a player's coach, this sat and everything else. But

1624
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: being a coach is not being a player. And so

1625
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: if you have a player who recognizes what's happening in

1626
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: that locker room and then jumps on something before it

1627
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: becomes a problem, That's how Derek Fisher was for the Lakers, right,

1628
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: And that's such a valuable piece, especially when you have

1629
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: a superstar player that was really focused on himself. And

1630
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 1: that's just who Kobe was. Didn't make him a bad

1631
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: person or a bad teammate, it's just the way he

1632
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: was wired, Okay, And that's that's why it worked, because

1633
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: they had the right pieces. I just again, my question

1634
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: is this, because you've been around players that were very

1635
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: me me me in a team sport, can a coach,

1636
01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: can a teammate change that peron or they remain who

1637
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: they are?

1638
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: Boy? Good question. Yeah, yeah, Look again, going back to

1639
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 2: what we were saying about Ricky Fowler. You know, people

1640
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 2: aren't static, you know, they're they're not just who they are,

1641
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 2: and that's that. That's the end of the story. Like

1642
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 2: people can learn and grow and mature, and I think

1643
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 2: that's a great I think that is a really great,

1644
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: uh example of how even somebody who is as great

1645
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 2: as Kobe Bryant is can be lacking some of whatever

1646
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 2: it is the magic that helps create the best teams.

1647
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 2: The great teams. You know, you need, like you said,

1648
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 2: the yin to the yang, you need somebody. If somebody's

1649
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: going to be selfish, then you absolutely need somebody who's

1650
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:58,440
Speaker 2: going to counteract that selfishness with absurd levels of self lessness.

1651
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Somebody who's not worried about their stat line, who's who's

1652
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 2: concerned about the team, so that while you know a

1653
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 2: star can absolutely soar, there'll be somebody who is you know,

1654
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: helping helping lift the rest of the roster or maybe

1655
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: you know, during some of the competitive practices that we've

1656
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: heard about after Kobe Bryant's retirement and then unfortunate very

1657
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: early passing where he would call out his teammates, there

1658
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 2: needs to be somebody there to pick up the pieces

1659
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 2: after some of the I mean not to put it

1660
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: too dramatically, but some of the mental trauma that was

1661
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: inflicted because of his seriousness, Like he was a serious

1662
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,520
Speaker 2: competitor and he expected a lot of out of his teammates,

1663
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 2: So you needed to have a veteran there like a

1664
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 2: Fisher or you know, or I'm sure there were other

1665
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: role players during the cross course of his career who

1666
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: are able to counteract that. I mean, look, there's again

1667
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: you can you can get there many different ways. It

1668
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 2: definitely helps having homegrown talent, but you can also manufacture

1669
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: these things. But if you get that alchemy wrong, if

1670
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: you somehow miss an ingredient, you know, if you somehow

1671
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 2: confuse like if you're making a cake, if you somehow

1672
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 2: confuse salt with sugar, you're gonna make a terrible cake

1673
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to throw the whole thing out.

1674
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: And it's one ingredient. So if you don't have that

1675
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: guy who can counteract a selfish star or a self

1676
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: interested superstar, you are not going to get very far

1677
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: in any sport, whether it's the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL,

1678
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: name that you're playing cricket, you're playing hockey, it doesn't matter.

1679
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: You need to have a balance.

1680
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: Well, this is maybe one of the problems with the

1681
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: NBA because starting with Michael Jordan, the focus has become

1682
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: on the individual. Even back in the Bird Magic days,

1683
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: even though they were getting out the headlines. It was

1684
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: still Laker Celtics. It was that change with Michael Jordan

1685
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: because he was such a dominant personality that suddenly the

1686
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: focus with him, and he then set the bar for

1687
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: everybody else. This is why Kobe Bryant was who he was.

1688
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: He looked at Jordan as now that's the NBA and

1689
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: it's still a team sport. And this is what these

1690
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: teams are trying to figure out. You add superstar players,

1691
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 1: why is it not working because you don't have the

1692
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 1: right chemistry. All right, I want to get to this

1693
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: big hullabaloo around the National Football League, Rich, with all

1694
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: this gambling suspensions and everything else, and one little problem

1695
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: that the NFL is completely overlooking, tell you what it is.

1696
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Rich Harberger, Fox

1697
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. We are live from the tairaq dot Com studios.

1698
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to any NFL. I want to get

1699
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: to this gambling story. And this is something that you

1700
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: do on your Saturday show as well, Rich, so I

1701
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: know you address this gambling an aspect to the NFL.

1702
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: So four more players are suspended, It's always a bunch

1703
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: of no name players that immediately get released by the

1704
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,879
Speaker 1: team as soon as they it's announced they've been suspended

1705
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: for the season. Here's what I've never understood about the

1706
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: gambling aspect involving athletes in their sports. So, if I

1707
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: was a star player, and by the way, many star

1708
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: players have bet on themselves, it's common knowledge they don't

1709
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 1: get caught. Well, part of the reason that most of

1710
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: them don't get caught is they don't actually make the

1711
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: bets themselves. See here, here's the thing. This is the

1712
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: one thing that just blows my mind. If I am

1713
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: just hell bent on making a bet that is against

1714
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: the rules of the league. You know, like in the NFL,

1715
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,799
Speaker 1: you can't bet on anything that's got an NFL label

1716
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 1: on it, Like you can't bet on who's going to

1717
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: be the first player picked in the draft, or in anything.

1718
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Anything that's got an NFL label on it, you can't

1719
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: bet on. And obviously you can't bet on other sports

1720
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: if you're on company grounds. Okay, that seems pretty clear.

1721
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: So all I have to do is call a buddy

1722
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: of mine to make all the bets for me. I

1723
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: mean that, right, I mean and other I don't understand it.

1724
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: Just seems blows my mind that these guys can't figure

1725
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: this out.

1726
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this though, that actually has happened

1727
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: where somebody was smart enough to have a buddy bet yeah,

1728
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 2: at an out of state sports book h and they've

1729
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 2: still gotten caught because of the just the type of

1730
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: money that was placed on the bet. So I would

1731
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 2: add as a caveat, don't get greedy. And that's where

1732
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 2: this gets really tricky. If they're gonna be rules in

1733
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: place that prohibit you from betting on whatever whatever sport

1734
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 2: you play. And in the case I was talking about,

1735
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:11,480
Speaker 2: it was a college baseball coach who had obvious insider

1736
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 2: information on a pitching change that was going to be

1737
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 2: made ahead of the line changing on the game. He

1738
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: contacted a friend in Ohio I believe it was, who

1739
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 2: then made a large wager on that college baseball game.

1740
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 2: And it was such a large wager that it raised

1741
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: red flags and then people were able to very easily

1742
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 2: trace who exactly made that bet and who they were

1743
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:40,879
Speaker 2: related to in terms of friendships on the coaching staff

1744
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 2: with one of the baseball teams. So, if you are

1745
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 2: dumb enough to be greedy enough to want to do

1746
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 2: this and break the rules. If you're greedy enough, they'll

1747
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: find you. Here's my thought process. The problem isn't in

1748
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: the actual betting, because that's all one hundred percent lead goal.

1749
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: The problem is in the insider trading aspect of this,

1750
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: like having insider information and seeking to use that information

1751
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 2: to win money, which will get you banned from books

1752
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 2: or worse. And then the other side of it is

1753
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: there are too many rules, specifically in the NFL. I

1754
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,480
Speaker 2: think there should be two rules. If I were commissioner

1755
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 2: for the day, I would say this, Steve, I would say,

1756
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 2: don't bet against your own team, and you're not allowed

1757
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: to bet on any player. Propositions and problems solved, because

1758
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 2: then you could have players betting on themselves, you could

1759
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 2: have players betting on the team they play for, and

1760
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 2: you could have players betting on other games across the NFL.

1761
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 2: In fact, that would encourage sports fans, NFL fans to

1762
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 2: maybe follow the betting. That would make you more money

1763
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 2: in endorsements and revenue if you were the NFL or

1764
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: the NFL players for that matter. So I think that

1765
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: the restrictions should be far less. The punishments should be

1766
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: virtually only limited to if you bet against your own team,

1767
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 2: or if you bet on player propositions, and we can

1768
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 2: all move on with our lives because this is getting

1769
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 2: really stupid at this point.

1770
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: All right, So when you say you can't bet on

1771
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: player propositions, right, yet players are allowed to participate in

1772
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: fantasy football.

1773
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 2: League, Well they're not allowed to play. That's another reason

1774
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 2: why these rules are confusing. You're not allowed to play

1775
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: daily fantasy.

1776
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: Which right, but you are season fantasy. And I know

1777
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe there's a limit on how much money can be,

1778
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: but you know how that works, right, Well, yeah, yeah, okay,

1779
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: our winner gets two hundred and fifty dollars, but under

1780
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: the table, it's more like, you know, two hundred, two

1781
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand dollars, that kind of stuff. I guess

1782
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: it's so hard to actually police this. Let me ask

1783
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 1: you this, Yeah, because you and I are both on

1784
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: the same page about the idea of betting on yourself.

1785
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather juniors bet on himself and he has substantially

1786
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: increased his bank account by winning fights, never lost a fight,

1787
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: so you know that that worked out well for him.

1788
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: So what if you with all the money, the billions

1789
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: and billions of dollars of revenue that are generating in

1790
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. What if you were to have a situation

1791
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 1: where the winner of a game, the team gets an

1792
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 1: additional pot of money to the winner of a game. Yeah. So,

1793
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, because we were always talking about tanking games,

1794
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: you know, late in the season to try to get

1795
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, some kind of playoff position. How do you

1796
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 1: how do you prevent teams from tanking? Well, if you

1797
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 1: actually had a pool of money that would be distributed

1798
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: to the winning team for each NFL game, You're like, well,

1799
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: how much money? I mean, it could be a substantial amount.

1800
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Considering again, this is a league that generates billions and

1801
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 1: billions of dollars of revenue. Would there be a problem

1802
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: with that?

1803
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I think that even like we're talking about like almost

1804
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,799
Speaker 2: league sanctioned bonuses for yes.

1805
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Yes, Like you know, you know we talk in boxing

1806
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: like wouldn't be great if every fight was a winner

1807
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 1: take all. But they're not going to do that, And

1808
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: it's not here. We're not talking We're talking about additional

1809
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: money earned as a team by simply winning a game.

1810
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 2: Well how about this, how about this? How about get

1811
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 2: the fans activated, get new gamblers activated? Like this is

1812
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 2: the reason why I think all these rules are so

1813
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 2: stupid is because if the whole purpose, and we know

1814
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 2: the whole purpose of the NFL is to make money

1815
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 2: for the players and for the owners, and for entertainment purposes,

1816
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 2: obviously for the people who enjoy watching the sport, Like,

1817
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 2: the reality of the situation is how much we're entertaining.

1818
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 2: Would it be to watch, like a hapless couple teams

1819
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: like the Indianapolis Colts and the Denver Broncos play against

1820
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 2: each other in the late season, but you had the

1821
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: available ability of players on each roster to bet on

1822
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 2: their own side with a multiplier. So imagine whatever you

1823
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: put in you get three times back. So if I

1824
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 2: were willing to wager twenty five thousand bucks on my

1825
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 2: team to win, I actually win my takeaway my walkaway

1826
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 2: money would be my twenty five thousand I risk plus

1827
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars more and then maybe offer, you know,

1828
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: up to a certain amount of money the same bet

1829
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 2: for fans who are watching the game. So hey, it's

1830
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 2: sponsored by bet MGM or DraftKings or Fan Duel or

1831
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 2: whatever sportsbook you know that you use when you log

1832
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,959
Speaker 2: on and gamble. If you bet alongside the Denver Broncos

1833
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 2: during this week fifteen Thursday night football game. You get

1834
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 2: the multiplier if you bet against them. If you're on

1835
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 2: the colt side, you get the multiplier, and new betters

1836
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 2: get an increased maximum. Whatever. Like, all of a sudden,

1837
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna have an explosion of interest in sports betting.

1838
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 2: I just don't understand. I just don't understand how if

1839
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the NFL is so willing to

1840
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:13,480
Speaker 2: have games played in Vegas, have a team playing in Vegas,

1841
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: have relationships with sports books, you know, have you know,

1842
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 2: whatever Caesars be, the sports book of the NFL or

1843
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: whoever it is, Like, why you're going to then muddy

1844
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: the waters by making the rules unnecessarily complicated for the

1845
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 2: players and the staff and the coaches, and actually throw

1846
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 2: water on the very thing you're trying to ignite, which

1847
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 2: is the sports betting culture around the NFL.

1848
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: Well again by suspending all these but we never saw

1849
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: this before, never never. I mean, we had two players, superstars,

1850
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: Paul Horney and Alyx Karis in nineteen sixty three were

1851
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: suspended from the Packers and the Lines because they bet

1852
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 1: on their own team, and they were suspended for ear

1853
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: each and they still made it to the Hall of Fame.

1854
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 1: And after that I didn't see any suspend where we're

1855
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we got this proliferation of which,

1856
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: by the way, raises suspicion. Geez, there are a lot

1857
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: of gambling going on amongst players in the NFL. Instead

1858
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: of fighting at work with it, make it work for you.

1859
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: There is a formula that could allow the players to

1860
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 1: engage in that kind of activity. Again, we draw the

1861
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 1: line obviously if they bet it, if there was any evidence,

1862
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 1: even a hint of evidence of someone betting against their team,

1863
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 1: you're gone. You're expelled for life. There's no second chances there.

1864
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 1: But there's a way for the league to work with

1865
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 1: this for their own benefit, not just for the players

1866
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to have some fun and you know, have some

1867
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: wagers on themselves. But it could work for the league

1868
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 1: as well. I just it's so shortsighted. It just drives

1869
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,800
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1874
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: trending right now. So Moncey Yes co hosting the show

1875
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 1: with Dan Yes engage rich in a sort of a

1876
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: newlywed game format format exactly remember newlywed game? It was

1877
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: how well did the husband know the wife? And they

1878
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: were newlywed. They would have the answer written on the

1879
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: card and then the spouse would have to guess what

1880
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: their answer was. Right. It was very funny show. Yes,

1881
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: a lot of whoopee talk about they're really into whoope.

1882
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: By the way, Bob you Banks is still alive, the

1883
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: original host, and he lives in the general area where

1884
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: I live. I'd seen him every once in a while.

1885
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: He was perfect for that show.

1886
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 2: By it we're still making whoopie.

1887
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Yes, but you engage in a form of the newlywed

1888
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: game with all people John.

1889
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 7: Ramos, Yes, it was how well do I know?

1890
01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 8: John Ramos specifically a lot of baseball questions, questions about

1891
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,879
Speaker 8: where he takes his wife out.

1892
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 7: Maybe for takeout?

1893
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 8: Answer, I did you know? It was fast food? And

1894
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 8: I went with in and out and I got it right? Wow, Yeah,

1895
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 8: I got it. He answers written down, So no, he

1896
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 8: didn't know the questions. It was in the moment live

1897
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 8: for him. I recorded my answers before the show started,

1898
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 8: so all of my answers were already in the cust

1899
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 8: Oh he didn't. He didn't guess mine. It was just

1900
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 8: my me guessing his. That's it, so he didn't have

1901
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 8: to guess for me. I think we batted about almost

1902
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 8: four hundred so isn't bad.

1903
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 7: It wasn't too bad.

1904
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 8: And the ones that I got wrong, I mentioned the

1905
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 8: answer he actually gave. I just was like, he's not

1906
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 8: going to pick the Tampa Bay Rays, He's going to

1907
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,560
Speaker 8: pick the Rangers for who's going to go into the

1908
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 8: World Series out of the al and so it's quite

1909
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 8: It was quite funny that I got a lot of

1910
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,719
Speaker 8: them but got it wrong. I just I was so mad.

1911
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 8: But hey, I got Fernando Valenzuela. That's his favorite Dodger

1912
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 8: of all time.

1913
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go.

1914
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know. It was a lot of fun.

1915
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 2: It was.

1916
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 7: It was good time.

1917
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Rich.

1918
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, we should do it. It would be fun. Yeah,

1919
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 7: it would be fun. I would be fun fun.

1920
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 8: It's actually funnier when I get the answer totally wrong,

1921
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, Like, it's even funnier that way.

1922
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 8: But when I get like, I couldn't believe I got

1923
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 8: the in and out question, because that could have been anything.

1924
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 8: I was like Chick fil a. People love that, you know,

1925
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 8: but I was like, in and out, it has to

1926
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 8: be in and out, and I got I always loved it.

1927
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Speaker 1: Well, like the guy would guess wrong and then the

1928
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 1: woman would take the car and start whacking their.

1929
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, right right.

1930
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Speaker 8: None of that went down, luckily, lucky.

1931
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:30,799
Speaker 1: Julius, genius concept.

1932
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 7: We've got some moves happening in the NBA. Fellas.

1933
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 8: Eric Gordon, former Clipper, went back to the Clippers, brought

1934
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 8: out my jersey. He has agreed to a deal with

1935
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 8: the Phoenix Suns. No details yet on the deal, but

1936
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 8: apparently he picked the Suns over other contenders. A lot

1937
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 8: of people were into him, even Golden State in Houston,

1938
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 8: but he ended up picking the Suns. No details on

1939
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 8: the exact terms of the deal, but it looks like

1940
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 8: he is headed.

1941
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 7: To the Suns.

1942
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 8: And right now, ESPN reporting that Josh Heart has committed

1943
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 8: Oh this is not NBA.

1944
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 7: He's going.

1945
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 8: Josh har of the Knicks is going to be part

1946
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 8: of the Feebo World Cup the US team this summer.

1947
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:11,799
Speaker 8: This is just reported by ESPN Miles Bridges is signing

1948
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 8: his one year, seven point nine million dollar qualifying offer

1949
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 8: with the Hornets. Apparently, both sides are very far apart

1950
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 8: on an extension, so this will make him an unrestricted

1951
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 8: free agent next summer.

1952
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,600
Speaker 7: I believe he still has ten games.

1953
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 8: To fill in out of his thirty game suspension. I

1954
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 8: believe still ten left Miles Bridges staying with the Hornets

1955
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 8: one year, seven point nine million dollar qualifying offer. Let's

1956
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 8: go on to Major League Baseball because Javier Baiez started

1957
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 8: things off with a grand Slam for the Tigers. They're

1958
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 8: beating the Rockies for zero, bottom of the first inning.

1959
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 8: The Cardinals up on the Yankees at home to zero.

1960
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 8: Bottom of the fifth, Royals beating the Dodgers four to

1961
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,720
Speaker 8: one top of the fifth as well. Spencer Steer hit

1962
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 8: a two run, four hundred and forty one foot homer

1963
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 8: for the Reds.

1964
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 7: They're shutting out the Padres to zero. Top of the

1965
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 7: eighth inning.

1966
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 8: Blue Jays have extended their lead over the Red Sox

1967
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 8: four to two. Bottom of the six. Brewers are still

1968
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 8: holding onto their lead over the Pirates three to two.

1969
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 8: Top of the eighth. The Nationals in the Phillies were

1970
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 8: on a rain delay, but it looks like they're back

1971
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 8: in action. So the Nationals are up five to three

1972
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 8: bottom of the six and the Braves Ozzie Albeys hit

1973
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 8: a two run homer to put Atlanta up. They are

1974
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 8: beating the Marlins four to three bottom of the seventh.

1975
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 8: Atlanta trying to win eight in a row, but it

1976
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 8: is the Orioles who snapped their four game losing streak.

1977
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 7: They topped the Twins two to one. Back to you guys, all.

1978
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 1: Right, thank you very much much. Gee. Now, I had

1979
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: to bring up something that's always annoying to you, rich

1980
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 1: and that's any kind of conversation about All Stars. Okay,

1981
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: So the Major League Baseball All Star Game. They announced

1982
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: the starters for this game. Two of the starters for

1983
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 1: the American League will be Josh Young and Jonah Him. Okay, Now,

1984
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,040
Speaker 1: if they were to walk into wherever you are we

1985
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: were sitting right now, would you be able to recognize

1986
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 1: either one of these people, Josh Jung or Jonah Heim.

1987
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 1: The answer is no, no, no. Here's here's the problem.

1988
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: By the way, Jung is he's having some decent numbers

1989
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:22,959
Speaker 1: third base for the Rangers. Essentially, it's his first full

1990
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: major league season. Jonah Heim is the catcher for the

1991
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:34,759
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. He is a guy who had two twenty

1992
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 1: seven last year and the year before that hit one

1993
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 1: ninety six. He's hitting two eighty five this year. Lord,

1994
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: So here, here's here's my problem with this. When you

1995
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:49,679
Speaker 1: have a mid season All Star game like baseball has,

1996
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: and Baseball is different like in the NBA, they never

1997
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: increase the rosters. It's twelve guys, and you know how

1998
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game were. It's basically the same

1999
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 1: guys every year. It takes a lot to crack into

2000
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 1: the very limited amount of spots they have on that

2001
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 1: All Star team. Baseball has expanded. They're All Stars as

2002
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 1: like thirty something players on each team. And then it

2003
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: gets really crazy because if pitchers have pitched, they get

2004
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 1: replaced and everything else. And by the end of this mess,

2005
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: you've got fifty or sixty guys that are designated at

2006
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,600
Speaker 1: All Stars. The difference when I was a kid was

2007
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 1: Willie Mays was always on the All Star team. Yeah,

2008
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: of course, Mickey Mantle was always on the All Star team.

2009
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 1: Carl Ya Strinsky, al kayline. These are automatics. You know why,

2010
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 1: because even if they were having an off season, they

2011
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 1: were still an All Star because they were proven star

2012
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:53,520
Speaker 1: over an extended period of time. This idea of designating

2013
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 1: someone as a starter in the All Star Game based

2014
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: on a couple of hot months, it doesn't make any

2015
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 1: sense to me.

2016
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Speaker 2: Neither one.

2017
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,759
Speaker 1: Maybe one of these two guys or both these guys

2018
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 1: will end up with Hall of Fame careers. Most likely

2019
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: they won't. In fact, they'll be a complete afterthought. I

2020
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,639
Speaker 1: just I don't I don't get it when I say star,

2021
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: star means that you've proven yourself to be a star

2022
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 1: over a certain amount of time. Now you have breakout stars, right,

2023
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean you have like you know, some superstar rookie.

2024
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: They're just woo wow. Okay, I want to see that guy,

2025
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. The All Star Game is

2026
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:40,640
Speaker 1: the fans game. I want to see stars. I'll tell

2027
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: you why stop covering All Star games. I used to

2028
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 1: go to the All Star Games, right, And I remember

2029
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: I was in Houston in two thousand and four and

2030
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 1: I was down on the field the day before the game,

2031
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: like you know, the home run derby day, and all

2032
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 1: these guys are walking ahead and I'm looking at half

2033
01:52:55,680 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 1: these guys, I'm like, who are these people? These are

2034
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: not stars?

2035
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: Well, look, let me jump.

2036
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 1: All Star game should be just that, all stars. Yeah, well,

2037
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: like like the guy had a hot wig, that doesn't

2038
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: they's all stars.

2039
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about this whole debate is I

2040
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 2: completely agree with a lot of what she said. I

2041
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 2: do think that there's a huge difference between somebody who's

2042
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 2: great and somebody who's a star. You know, Kawhi Leonard

2043
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 2: is a great basketball player. He's not a star.

2044
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 1: You don't think Kawhi Leonard is a star.

2045
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: He's not a star, wow, because he avoids any attention.

2046
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 2: He doesn't like to sit at the podium and answer

2047
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 2: your questions. He he's he's really, I mean only very

2048
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 2: recently made himself commercially available. Lebron James is a star,

2049
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 2: you know, Lebron James. He wants the limelight. He bathes

2050
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 2: in the limelight. James Harden's a starkic. He's a great,

2051
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 2: look I don't be wrong. James Harden's a fading star.

2052
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 2: And Jokic is a great who's at the top of

2053
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 2: his game right now. But Jokic doesn't want the smoke.

2054
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: There's a big difference in my mind between star power

2055
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 2: and greatness, and you see it all the time. It's

2056
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 2: very easy to spot. You know, Drew Brees was a

2057
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: star when he was playing in the NFL as a quarterback.

2058
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers was just a great quarterback because he didn't

2059
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 2: want to be on the Wrangler commercial. He didn't want

2060
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 2: to have you know, the camera on him while he's

2061
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 2: pumping up the team pregame like that just wasn't his style.

2062
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 2: So I think the word star is misused a lot

2063
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 2: in the first place. But the other thing I disagree

2064
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 2: with in terms of All Star Games and All Star

2065
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 2: is the subjectivity of it. Like, yeah, statistically, you may

2066
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 2: have a bunch of guys in there deserving and starting

2067
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 2: because of their batting average or because of how many

2068
01:54:57,800 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: home runs they hit in the month of June in

2069
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: May and etc. Etc. But the fact of the matter

2070
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 2: is when you get down to who starts and who doesn't,

2071
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 2: sometimes we're talking about the thinnest of margins. Who makes

2072
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: the All Star team and who doesn't. Sometimes we're talking

2073
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 2: about the thinnest of margins, And sometimes it's it comes

2074
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 2: down to popularity of a player. I just think it's

2075
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 2: all very dumb. It is a leftover from yesteryear when

2076
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 2: these All Stars would barnstorm and they'd go city to

2077
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 2: city spreading the gospel of this sports league that people

2078
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: weren't paying attention to. Because this is before the times

2079
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 2: where most people had televisions in their living rooms. We

2080
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 2: don't need All Star games anymore. That's the reason why

2081
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 2: most of them rate really low. Yeah, and most of

2082
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,560
Speaker 2: the time they're extremely boring, whether you're talking about an

2083
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 2: All Star Game or a Pro Bowl.

2084
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Well, the novelly of the Baseball All Star Game. Back

2085
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: in time when very unique to baseball, they had two

2086
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: completely separate leagues, completely separate, so the only time you

2087
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: ever got to see players from one league against the

2088
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 1: other was into the All Star Game or the World Series.

2089
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 1: That was it. That was the only time you could

2090
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 1: see the best teams are the best players from the

2091
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: individual league's actually match up. I agree with you, the

2092
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 1: interleague play really wiped out the All Star Game. Yeah,

2093
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean America lying versus National League doesn't mean anything now,

2094
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 1: especially since we have universal DHS. There's no difference in

2095
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: the leagues. They're all the same.

2096
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2097
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 1: So again, I and by the way. I know there's

2098
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: probably Texas Rangers fans saying, oh, these are youngs. Great,

2099
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: the Rangers having a breakout season, wonderful. These are not stars. No,

2100
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: they could be someday, but they're not stars, not at

2101
01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: this point. All Right, we continue on the other side.

2102
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a specific NFL free agent.

2103
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 1: And it's not DeAndre Hopkins, and it's not mister Cook.

2104
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 1: It's another free agent that's looking for a job, Rich,

2105
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 1: And my question is who wants this sky? This is

2106
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday from the Fox Steve Hartman and Rich

2107
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: Armberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the Tairak

2108
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 1: dot Com studios. Hope you're enjoying your extended Fourth of

2109
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: July holiday weekend, which will extend all the way to

2110
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: the big day on Tuesday. I'm very excited if it's

2111
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: uh great to have my sister in town. And of course,

2112
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 1: the big story of today is is that Iowa Sam

2113
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 1: is going to come to the Hartman home. Very few

2114
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 1: people have made the trip. Rich hasn't even made the

2115
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 1: trip yet, although he's soon to make the trip. So Sam,

2116
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 1: are you ready for I'm ready the big moment. I'm excited. Yeah,

2117
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: you will get a little insight into someone you worked

2118
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 1: with for a long time. No, I mean, you know,

2119
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 1: I fighted myself. Let's make that clue. You did. You did,

2120
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: and there's a reason behind that now that I won't mention.

2121
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: But yes, there we go. That's good. It's gonna be good,

2122
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of good. Hey, just stop by for a

2123
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: few Yeah, that's good, just.

2124
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 2: Like he did.

2125
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 1: You know that Denise is gonna want you to sample something. Okay,

2126
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 1: I'll I'll be ready. Yeah, probably something for the road

2127
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 1: as well. All right, all right, we're up against it

2128
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 1: here at the top, so I want to switch gears

2129
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. I do want to talk about some

2130
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 1: of these free agents aside from Dalvin Cook and DeAndre Hopkins,

2131
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: but I want to get your thought right now, Rich,

2132
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: your former boss Bob Kraft has said that money is

2133
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: never going to be an obstacle in terms of the Patriots,

2134
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 1: and that makes a lot of sense. They are now

2135
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: reporting that both d hop and Dalvin Cook will be

2136
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: signed by the New England Patriots. I want to get

2137
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: your thoughts if that changes the dynamic of a team

2138
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 1: in the picking order right now in the AFC East

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Speaker 1: is a clear number four. How much of an impact

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Speaker 1: would that have on the Patriots If they signed both

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 2: That would be tremendous for the Patriots because if you

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Speaker 2: think about what was really missing frankly over the first

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Speaker 2: two years of mac Jones' career offensively, but certainly last year,

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Speaker 2: is a viable receiving threat, somebody who he could go

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Speaker 2: to no matter what, get the ball out of his hands,

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Speaker 2: throw it to somebody who's going to win the majority

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Speaker 2: of the fifty to fifty balls, especially in the red zone,

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Speaker 2: and then throw on top of it. Romandre Stevenson's great

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Speaker 2: running back, but having Dalvin Cook as a one to

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Speaker 2: two punch out of that backfield, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: they would be a very competitive team in an extremely

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Speaker 2: competitive AFC East.

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Speaker 1: Bob Kraft doesn't like to lose, and the last four

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Speaker 1: years have been losers in terms of the Patriots. Could

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Speaker 1: have a major impact. Hey, we got a lot more

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Speaker 1: freeze to get to more NBA fallout. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Live, bringing it on for you here on a fabulous Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I believe, am I not mistaken? July second, the day

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Speaker 1: to day is the exact halfway point of the year

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Speaker 1: on the calendar, because remember February has got less. I

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Speaker 1: mean's right, you know, so I believe it's not June thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's July second is the exact has this year. Now,

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Speaker 1: we are right now, Rich is actually now where I

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Speaker 1: was for most of my career. Yeah, you're you're doing

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Speaker 1: seven days a week of radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Yes, something I had done for many, many, many years.

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Speaker 1: As you know, how's that working for you?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I actually like it.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you're doing morning radio six of

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Speaker 1: those stefing this is your only you know, non early

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Speaker 1: morning show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is ten to two pm on the

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Speaker 2: West Coast where I reside.

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Speaker 1: You're on at six am, six days a week.

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Speaker 2: Which, to be perfectly honest with you, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: a lot of people feel this way when you know

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Speaker 2: you're you're going to work, if that's what we want

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Speaker 2: to call what we do for a living, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: finishing up early in the day is kind of nice.

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Speaker 2: It avails you sell you some time for yourself before

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Speaker 2: you have to pick up the kids. So it's a schedule.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind. Certainly, if I did, I would change it.

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Speaker 2: But like I said, what we do doesn't exactly qualify

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Speaker 2: as work.

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Speaker 1: Right. My father, my late great father, said this many times.

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Speaker 1: He does, you know, as I got into this business,

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Speaker 1: he said, send you know, talking sports is not a job,

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Speaker 1: that's right, And I'm like, Dad, you're right, But it's

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Speaker 1: a hell of a way to make a living. It really.

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Speaker 1: It beats working all the way. So you're you're doing that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not anymore. I'm not, you know, I'm sort

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Speaker 1: of in between, you know, having worked seven days a

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Speaker 1: week for pretty much the better part of like twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. Yeah, Now all of a sudden, I got

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Speaker 1: like this free time. You know, I enjoy my weekends

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Speaker 1: here and still do a little TV work and we

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Speaker 1: got some projects in the works down the road that

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Speaker 1: will make available to all of our listeners out there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's amazing about time, right.

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Speaker 2: Do you find yourself more so like spending time on

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Speaker 2: like things you never would have thought you'd get into,

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Speaker 2: Like are you do you have a new weird high?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need to find more. In other words,

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Speaker 1: I in the back of my mind when you were

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Speaker 1: working every single day. I mean, time just flies. Like

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Speaker 1: the eight years that I went back to San Diego

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Speaker 1: to do a Monday through Friday show in the afternoons

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Speaker 1: in the mornings, that time went by quickly. But I

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Speaker 1: can honestly tell you this, Rich So you and I

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Speaker 1: did our last San Diego Monday through Friday show right

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Speaker 1: at the start of September, end of October August, right

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of September, and so that's nine ten

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Speaker 1: months ago. Yeah, it seems like ten years ago. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. I mean it seems this time

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Speaker 1: for me, the way I operate is crawled. It's not

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Speaker 1: that I haven't found some interesting things to do and

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Speaker 1: I have that person have, but it honestly feels like

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Speaker 1: we did our last you know, Monday through Friday morning

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Speaker 1: show like ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting again, Like you said, time is time

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Speaker 2: is a funny thing. I would say if we're measuring

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Speaker 2: time in terms of lifespan ten months, very short amount

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Speaker 2: of time, depending on how busy you are, like you said,

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Speaker 2: but it's all about perspective and it's all about it's

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Speaker 2: all about what you're doing with that time, which is

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Speaker 2: actually interesting because in terms of like, for example, the

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Speaker 2: NFL three years, four years, five years, like we're talking

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Speaker 2: about an eternity, you know, because typical NFL careers, or

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Speaker 2: I should say, the average is something less than three years.

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Speaker 2: If you have a nice long career, it's something north

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Speaker 2: of five years. If you have a very long career,

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Speaker 2: it's something north of ten years. And for the very

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Speaker 2: few you get beyond fifteen, you get to twenty, you

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Speaker 2: get beyond twenty, like Tom Brady, I mean, you're getting

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Speaker 2: into some rarefied air at that point. Very few players

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Speaker 2: that have ever done that. But you catch my drift,

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Speaker 2: Like in terms of like athletes lives, there's only there's

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Speaker 2: only a short window where you're actually viable.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly. Well, look, I have been doing sports talk

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Speaker 1: radio now continuously for thirty four years. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: long career. Oh yeah, that's a long career. And I

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Speaker 1: have no end in sight. Believe me. There's there's a

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Speaker 1: lot more to be done out there. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: I it's it's just interesting about time and how little

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Speaker 1: changes in your life can reset the clock, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: But you've been on just this whirlwind recently, so that

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Speaker 1: you know that suddenly the days are just oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you blink and a weekos by. But but what's

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Speaker 2: interesting is this is a perfect kind of segue to

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Speaker 2: what I think we were aiming to talk about earlier, Yes,

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Speaker 2: which is the fact that for a guy like Colin Kaepernick,

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Speaker 2: who recently made news telling sports illustrator Illustrated writer that

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Speaker 2: he's been training five to six times a week, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he is in the best shape of his life still

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Speaker 2: and looking for his next NFL opportunity, and from everything

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Speaker 2: he's heard from teams, he's having a hard time believing

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Speaker 2: that the backups that are filling up roster spaces across

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Speaker 2: the NFL are better than he is.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to throw a name that I wanted to straw

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Speaker 1: out earlier to you, and it happens to be a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who's a free agent. So I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you a choice right now, because, first of all, before

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Speaker 1: we even get to that, and I asked this of

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks yesterday, but you obviously would know of him

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Speaker 1: more because you played on the offensive side of the football.

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Speaker 1: If you were to create a profile for the perfect

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback in the NFL, what boxes do you need

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Speaker 1: to check? Because Brian Hoyer, by the way, first of all,

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Speaker 1: is one of your dear friends and has been at

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Speaker 1: it for a long time, so whatever he's doing is working.

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Speaker 1: But what boxes do you have to check to be

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Speaker 1: a productive backup quarterback in the NFL?

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Speaker 2: The main one is smart. You need a guy who

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Speaker 2: understands everything that's going on and with a very limited repetitions,

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Speaker 2: can handle an understanding, a very nuanced understanding of the offense.

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Speaker 2: Because yet it has to be if you're a quarterback

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Speaker 2: and be capable at a moment's notice to step in

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Speaker 2: and perform that role. The other the other part of

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Speaker 2: this is you want you want your backup quarterback to

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Speaker 2: be good, but you don't want your backup quarterback to

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Speaker 2: how should I put pull, You don't want him to

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Speaker 2: pose a threat to your starting quarterback. Now that sounds

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Speaker 2: counterintuitive because you would assume competition at every level of

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Speaker 2: your roster would be good, and maybe a starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: feeling somebody nipping at their heels would be good for

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Speaker 2: the level of competition of your football team. But that's

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Speaker 2: not really the case. Ask any starting quarterback what they're

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Speaker 2: looking for in their backup quarterbacks. They're not looking for

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Speaker 2: somebody to compete with them. They're looking for somebody who's

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Speaker 2: going to help them make them better. So that's the

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Speaker 2: third thing. Now, I'm not saying they can't be a

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Speaker 2: good quarterback, they just can't even be in the same

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Speaker 2: realm of talent as your starter.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Kaepernick, and that creates a problem, sure,

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Speaker 1: because of his notoriety. The second, and we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this for years now with Kaepernick. Yeah, the biggest problem

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Speaker 1: with a team signing Kaepernick is that instantly it becomes

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Speaker 1: a big story away from the sports role. If it

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Speaker 1: was just a sports story and people understand, hey, the

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Speaker 1: guy hasn't played in seven years and this, but that

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Speaker 1: would not fly with the news media. This is a

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Speaker 1: guy that's been you know, blackballed out of the league

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Speaker 1: for taking a knee during the anthem and for all

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Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. And then if he doesn't get an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to be anything more than a backup quarterback, than

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Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of heating on the dude. Why

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Speaker 1: aren't you giving Kaepernick an opportunity? Well, we brought him

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Speaker 1: into be our backup, Well he should be the same.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to deal with that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about a guy who has been

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in this league at one point, was

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Speaker 1: being hailed as a future star quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 1: And he's a free agent and says he's willing to

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Speaker 1: accept a backup role. Would you have any interest in

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Speaker 1: signing Carson Wentz?

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Speaker 11: Boy?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Boy? So Carson Wentz and Cam Newton are kind of

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Speaker 2: in the same camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Cam Newton's another guy who is not retired. Yep,

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Speaker 1: he's just not getting any phone calls.

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Speaker 2: I look at them both as look probably talented enough

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Speaker 2: to still be backup quarterbacks, but they bring so much

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Speaker 2: baggage and so much Let's put it this way, they

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02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 2: can still make some wow plays. Where if you have

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Speaker 2: a weaker starting quarterback on your roster and then you

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Speaker 2: bring in Cam Newton or a Carson Wentz and they

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Speaker 2: start making some wow plays at practice and your starter

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02:10:43,720 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 2: starts to struggle, you're gonna have a problem on your

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Speaker 2: hands because you're gonna have teammates of Carson's and teammates

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Speaker 2: of Cam saying, hey, why aren't you starting? What are

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Speaker 2: we doing here? Or even if they're not saying it

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Speaker 2: too that themselves, they may be thinking it. We don't

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Speaker 2: want the last thing you want. We talked earlier in

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Speaker 2: this program about chemistry. The last thing you want is

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02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 2: something in the locker room that's dividing your team. You

2351
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 2: always want to think about what's going to bring us

2352
02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 2: all together, and so that's not going to be good

2353
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 2: for chemistry, you know. The same way Colin Kaepernick to

2354
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 2: your point about it becoming a bigger story than sports alone,

2355
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 2: if he joins a roster you don't want. You don't

2356
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 2: want any signing, any individual on your locker or in

2357
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 2: your locker room or on your team to become bigger

2358
02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 2: than the story of the team itself.

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02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 1: Remember the Tim Tebow Signing.

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02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow in New York was a disaster. It was

2361
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:43,880
Speaker 2: an absolute, unmitigated disaster. As soon as Mark Sanchez started

2362
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 2: having bad games, bad plays, you would hear chance for

2363
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 2: Tibo from the stands in New York. You just can't

2364
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:54,640
Speaker 2: do it. It completely defangs your starting quarterback. So again,

2365
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:57,200
Speaker 2: you know, maybe if you're I don't know, the New

2366
02:11:57,280 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 2: York Jets, and you were really desperate, maybe you could

2367
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:02,000
Speaker 2: bring in a Carson Wentz if he feels like the

2368
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:04,280
Speaker 2: right fit for your offense. Maybe you could bring to

2369
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 2: Cam Newton because you have Aaron Rodgers. But outside of

2370
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:10,840
Speaker 2: one of the top five top ten quarterbacks in this league,

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02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand why you would want to do that

2372
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 2: to yourself. And then beside the point, if you have

2373
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 2: one of the top five top ten quarterbacks in the league,

2374
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:23,040
Speaker 2: you probably don't necessarily need to sign a Carson Wentz

2375
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:26,760
Speaker 2: or Cam Newton. So they're unfortunately victims of their own fame.

2376
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,160
Speaker 2: And we'll lump Colin Kaepernick in there too.

2377
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely more so than anyone else. Yeah, absolutely, because

2378
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 1: his fame has only grown, the notoriety has only grown.

2379
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean the whole When I look

2380
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:45,360
Speaker 1: back at the whole Kaepernick situation, I blame his agent

2381
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:50,120
Speaker 1: because remember he stall had an opportunity to stay with

2382
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 1: the forty nine organization. That's true, but his agent felt like, hey,

2383
02:12:54,760 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 1: let's get out on the open market and crickets crickets.

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02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:06,080
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting about that whole time is I think

2385
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 2: it became almost a self fulfilling story. Like I felt

2386
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:13,680
Speaker 2: like people pick sides, They became very dug in and

2387
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:16,240
Speaker 2: because it wasn't one of those stories now, it seemed

2388
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 2: extremely important at the time. But if we're talking about truly, truly,

2389
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:25,800
Speaker 2: what we were talking about is a quarterback not getting

2390
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 2: an opportunity in a sports league, right, whether it was

2391
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 2: forrest talent or if he was being you know, discriminated

2392
02:13:33,320 --> 02:13:35,800
Speaker 2: against in some way for his actions on the football

2393
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:40,120
Speaker 2: field outside of his gameplay, et cetera. It really was

2394
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:45,280
Speaker 2: an easy story for you know, political pundits to latch onto,

2395
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 2: for politicians themselves to latch onto, for news cycles to

2396
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 2: be spun up. I mean, there was a lot that

2397
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:58,240
Speaker 2: got added to that story that was probably unnecessary, but

2398
02:13:58,640 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 2: it was just such an easy target and a great

2399
02:14:01,240 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 2: distraction like, if there's one thing that I go back

2400
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 2: and remember, like that got people worked up so much

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02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:13,919
Speaker 2: that it almost became, like I said, a self fulfilling

2402
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:19,520
Speaker 2: thing where he became unsignable, not because of his message,

2403
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 2: not because necessarily of you know, who he was, or

2404
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:25,480
Speaker 2: what he stood for, or his kneeling during the anthem.

2405
02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:28,840
Speaker 2: It was because the backlash would be so harsh for

2406
02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:31,280
Speaker 2: any of these teams to sign him from a certain

2407
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 2: faction of the fan base, because it got spun up

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02:14:34,160 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 2: so big that he became impossible to sign. And then

2409
02:14:38,160 --> 02:14:41,480
Speaker 2: on top of it, he reached a settlement with the NFL.

2410
02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,960
Speaker 2: And whether you know you believe it was collusion or not,

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02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:48,320
Speaker 2: the NFL, I just firmly believe didn't want to go

2412
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:50,800
Speaker 2: through courts and go through the discovery process, and so

2413
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 2: they paid him on the side and settled and they

2414
02:14:52,720 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 2: signed NDAs and etc. Etc. To get rid of the stories,

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02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:00,120
Speaker 2: so to speak. But there are probably still owners across

2416
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 2: the NFL who take umbrage with the fact that he

2417
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:06,600
Speaker 2: sued the league, and so whether it's good for their

2418
02:15:06,640 --> 02:15:09,360
Speaker 2: team to sign a good quarterback or not, they're on

2419
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:12,000
Speaker 2: principle they're not going to sign them, not because of

2420
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:15,040
Speaker 2: what he stands for, but because he went after the

2421
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:19,360
Speaker 2: very business that they operate. So I don't know, man,

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02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 2: I know that he's still training, and as a football player,

2423
02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:27,000
Speaker 2: as an athlete, I totally understand how that feels when

2424
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,160
Speaker 2: you're training and you're trying to get back in because

2425
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:32,240
Speaker 2: I did this before what would have been my sixth

2426
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:34,760
Speaker 2: year or my seventh year. I retired after my six

2427
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,840
Speaker 2: year of play. I know how it feels when you

2428
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:40,080
Speaker 2: want to get in and you're struggling to get back in.

2429
02:15:41,080 --> 02:15:43,560
Speaker 2: But there comes a time in your life where you

2430
02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:45,640
Speaker 2: kind of have to give up the ghost to move on.

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Speaker 1: Well, and again, he went commercial with his cause if

2432
02:15:50,920 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 1: you want to call it that, I mean, you signed

2433
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:55,680
Speaker 1: the big deal with Nike, then was critical of their

2434
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:59,560
Speaker 1: shoe cost him that. By the way, if you're curious,

2435
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:03,520
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is thirty five. Yeah, he will be thirty six

2436
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:06,000
Speaker 1: in November. So obviously there are many quarterbacks in this

2437
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:09,640
Speaker 1: league older than Colin Kaepernick. But yeah, twenty sixteen is

2438
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 1: the last time we actually saw him on the NFL field.

2439
02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:12,960
Speaker 2: All right.

2440
02:16:13,000 --> 02:16:14,440
Speaker 1: On the other side, we're going to get back to

2441
02:16:14,920 --> 02:16:19,200
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the NBA free agent signings. I want

2442
02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:22,360
Speaker 1: to get back to the Damian Lillard situation, because until

2443
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:26,200
Speaker 1: his destination is determined, it's hard to say whether or

2444
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:31,840
Speaker 1: not any team has actually elevated themselves to the level

2445
02:16:31,880 --> 02:16:34,200
Speaker 1: that they need to beat the Denver Nuggets. We got

2446
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:38,480
Speaker 1: the latest. This is Fox Sports Sunday Butt Rock Oclock

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02:16:38,720 --> 02:16:46,160
Speaker 1: Butt Rock Butt, Rock Butt Rock Oclock. That's for Ryan

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Speaker 1: who unexpectedly join us today.

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Speaker 2: First, this little kid Rock Yeah, wow, you know it's

2450
02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:07,080
Speaker 2: the real names. Yes, Like the whole thing. I did

2451
02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:10,400
Speaker 2: a deep dive on kid Rock one day. The whole

2452
02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:14,760
Speaker 2: thing is like this made up kind of like redneck

2453
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:17,959
Speaker 2: out of the trailer park thing that he kind of

2454
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:22,640
Speaker 2: spun up himself, Like he came from a pretty good upbringing,

2455
02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:26,039
Speaker 2: like a privileged background, but he realized there was a

2456
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:30,359
Speaker 2: missing sector of the music world and that was trailer

2457
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:34,680
Speaker 2: park rap, and he mixed that with heavy metal guitar,

2458
02:17:34,800 --> 02:17:39,160
Speaker 2: and the dude has made hundreds of millions of dollars.

2459
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:42,080
Speaker 1: You may not agree with all his politics out there,

2460
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 1: but when you hear him being interviewed, you realize exactly

2461
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Like he created a character, like he's

2462
02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:53,480
Speaker 1: a really smart guy.

2463
02:17:53,720 --> 02:17:54,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:56,480
Speaker 1: Again, you may not agree with his politics, but he's

2465
02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 1: a smart guy and an excellent business guy and made

2466
02:17:59,760 --> 02:18:02,600
Speaker 1: him up a whole lot of money. By the way,

2467
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:06,599
Speaker 1: we're live once again from the tire rack dot Com studios.

2468
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:09,880
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at all these teams trying to now

2469
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,720
Speaker 1: that you know, and I'm always suspicious again when I'm

2470
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:21,360
Speaker 1: hearing you know that Damian Lillard wants to be traded, right, okay,

2471
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:26,400
Speaker 1: And then the Portland Trailblazers put out a statement saying

2472
02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:29,800
Speaker 1: that we'll we'll accommodate him, but understand, we're going to

2473
02:18:29,879 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: do what's best for the team, which is hedging a lot,

2474
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:36,480
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, sure we'll trade him if if we

2475
02:18:36,520 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 1: get a boatload and return. So I'm looking at all

2476
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 1: these different teams because pretty much there's half the league

2477
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:45,200
Speaker 1: would try to make a deal to get Damian Lillard.

2478
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:49,920
Speaker 1: But let's let's pause right there for a moment. So

2479
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:53,280
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard's had a tremendous NBA career. He was named

2480
02:18:53,280 --> 02:18:56,160
Speaker 1: to the seventy fifth Anniversary team. He's coming off a

2481
02:18:56,200 --> 02:18:58,640
Speaker 1: season where we actually had a career high averaging more

2482
02:18:58,680 --> 02:19:03,560
Speaker 1: than thirty two points per game. But do you believe

2483
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:06,959
Speaker 1: the Damian Lillard because We were talking about this earlier,

2484
02:19:06,959 --> 02:19:09,640
Speaker 1: about stars. I mean, obviously he's a star, he's an

2485
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 1: all Star, he's an all time great, But that doesn't

2486
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:19,240
Speaker 1: necessarily mean he's a game changer for a franchise. So

2487
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:22,040
Speaker 1: whether he were to go to the Clippers or to

2488
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:25,120
Speaker 1: the Heat, or to the Sixers or any team in

2489
02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:31,240
Speaker 1: the league, do you believe the Damian Lillard is a

2490
02:19:31,280 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 1: game changer?

2491
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 2: I do.

2492
02:19:34,280 --> 02:19:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you believe that.

2493
02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, here's why. Here's why.

2494
02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:43,800
Speaker 1: The last time I check, he hasn't collected any rings

2495
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:44,160
Speaker 1: in part.

2496
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know that's important. That's an

2497
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:50,720
Speaker 2: important part of the story too, But neither Okay, So

2498
02:19:50,879 --> 02:19:55,840
Speaker 2: you remember when Kawhi Leonard This is probably a bad

2499
02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 2: example because he said, well, he had success and he

2500
02:19:58,879 --> 02:20:01,359
Speaker 2: knew what it took to be a changeampion in San Antonio.

2501
02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 2: But you remember the way he left San Antonio before

2502
02:20:04,280 --> 02:20:09,600
Speaker 2: joining the Toronto Raptors. And everybody saw that trade and

2503
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:14,400
Speaker 2: they went, He's going to the Raptors with who who

2504
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:16,200
Speaker 2: do they have there that they're gonna go win a

2505
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:20,520
Speaker 2: championship with? How is this going to work? And within

2506
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:24,879
Speaker 2: two years he won a championship with the Raptors.

2507
02:20:24,320 --> 02:20:24,360
Speaker 11: It.

2508
02:20:24,959 --> 02:20:28,600
Speaker 2: Like the point I'm trying to make is it it

2509
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:33,959
Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter. It does matter that he's a star.

2510
02:20:34,120 --> 02:20:37,160
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard absolutely needs to be a star in order

2511
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 2: for this whole conversation to work, for any of this

2512
02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:44,400
Speaker 2: to make sense. But it almost doesn't matter where exactly

2513
02:20:44,480 --> 02:20:48,680
Speaker 2: he goes, as long as he's entering a culture that

2514
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:52,480
Speaker 2: can handle him, that he's entering a culture that's ready

2515
02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:56,000
Speaker 2: to win. So when I look at Miami and I

2516
02:20:56,040 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 2: think about what they're missing, I think they're missing finisher.

2517
02:21:01,080 --> 02:21:04,880
Speaker 2: I think they're missing a fourth quarter bully. I think

2518
02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:08,040
Speaker 2: they're missing a guy who can bring a little magic

2519
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:11,440
Speaker 2: to the roster when time's running out and you have

2520
02:21:11,520 --> 02:21:15,920
Speaker 2: one last inbound play for the win. Like Dame, time

2521
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:19,440
Speaker 2: is a real thing. It's a coin phrasing. It should

2522
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 2: be because he is absolutely clutch Damian Lillard. Aside from

2523
02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:26,800
Speaker 2: being one of the best scorers in the game right now,

2524
02:21:27,080 --> 02:21:29,680
Speaker 2: he's also one of the more clutch players in the league.

2525
02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:32,400
Speaker 2: He's just really good with the ball in his hand.

2526
02:21:32,480 --> 02:21:34,959
Speaker 2: Late in games. He doesn't seem to tire, he seems

2527
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,120
Speaker 2: to get better. It's kind of like Derrick Henry with

2528
02:21:37,160 --> 02:21:40,280
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans over the years, he just wears down

2529
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:43,080
Speaker 2: opponents until the fourth quarter and then he just completely

2530
02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:47,920
Speaker 2: smokes you, capitalizes when everybody else is tired. That's Dame Lillard.

2531
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:52,039
Speaker 2: Now again, he's done this in relative obscurity in Portland

2532
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,960
Speaker 2: for all these years. But what was missing with this

2533
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:58,960
Speaker 2: Miami Heat most recent run in the NBA postseason It

2534
02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:03,240
Speaker 2: was having a finish. So yeah, I know, I know

2535
02:22:03,440 --> 02:22:06,879
Speaker 2: he hasn't collected rings where he's at, but neither did

2536
02:22:06,959 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant before he joined the Golden State Warriors. That

2537
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:13,520
Speaker 2: felt a little bit more ready bake. Let's make cake.

2538
02:22:13,640 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 2: But down there in South Beach with Pat Riley as

2539
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:20,760
Speaker 2: president of basketball operations, with Eric Spolstra as head coach,

2540
02:22:21,520 --> 02:22:25,960
Speaker 2: with bam Adebayo and Jimmy Butler, I think that has

2541
02:22:26,000 --> 02:22:28,840
Speaker 2: the makings of arguably the best team out of the

2542
02:22:28,879 --> 02:22:31,000
Speaker 2: East if they get that deal done.

2543
02:22:30,760 --> 02:22:33,280
Speaker 1: I would agree again what we're talking about a team

2544
02:22:33,400 --> 02:22:35,879
Speaker 1: was the lowest scoring team in the entire league during

2545
02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:38,200
Speaker 1: the regular season and they still made it to the

2546
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:41,840
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. If you added Dame Lillard, obviously, that would

2547
02:22:41,879 --> 02:22:43,960
Speaker 1: upgrade their offense. On the other side, I want to

2548
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:46,800
Speaker 1: I want to go back though, and the idea of

2549
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:51,440
Speaker 1: how many actual franchise players there are. And I'm going

2550
02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:54,360
Speaker 1: to use an example of someone you mentioned earlier, of

2551
02:22:54,480 --> 02:22:58,360
Speaker 1: someone who may have been overhyped as a franchise player.

2552
02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:04,400
Speaker 1: But first, let's find out who's trending right now, what's trending,

2553
02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 1: who's trending?

2554
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:08,640
Speaker 8: Things are trending, Things are trending, These are trending so

2555
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:09,320
Speaker 8: many things.

2556
02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:12,160
Speaker 1: He used to be like, I would sit here and

2557
02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:14,200
Speaker 1: I say, all right, here's the update, and you know,

2558
02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 1: we want to know trending. How do you define trending?

2559
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:21,119
Speaker 8: That's hard, you know, is it what's actually trending on Twitter?

2560
02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:25,119
Speaker 7: And the right right? And some things that are trending

2561
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:26,600
Speaker 7: are silly and stupid.

2562
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:29,040
Speaker 8: So it's like, obviously that's not what I'm going to

2563
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:31,520
Speaker 8: talk about. But I do have more on Damian Lillard

2564
02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:34,279
Speaker 8: because he has tweeted for the first time since requesting

2565
02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:37,520
Speaker 8: that trade. It is a response to somebody, so he's

2566
02:23:37,560 --> 02:23:40,800
Speaker 8: responding to this original tweet that says, very surprised to

2567
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:41,080
Speaker 8: see the.

2568
02:23:41,120 --> 02:23:43,320
Speaker 7: Number of fans turning on Lillard today.

2569
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:46,080
Speaker 8: I can't blame him for wanting to change the previous

2570
02:23:46,160 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 8: regiment failed to build a legit team. Around him, and

2571
02:23:48,760 --> 02:23:51,680
Speaker 8: the current chose to go young and rebuild. I would

2572
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:54,520
Speaker 8: guess this is the desired result by Cronin and his staff.

2573
02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:58,880
Speaker 8: That's the original tweet. Dame retweeted it and responded with this,

2574
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:02,000
Speaker 8: It's in my blood to take the high road. I'd

2575
02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:04,400
Speaker 8: love to hear what fans are turning on. Have I

2576
02:24:04,480 --> 02:24:07,320
Speaker 8: misled them or anyone? Fill me in?

2577
02:24:08,480 --> 02:24:09,440
Speaker 7: That was his response.

2578
02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:10,720
Speaker 1: You know how he interpret that?

2579
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Rich. My tweet that I put out as soon as

2580
02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:16,520
Speaker 2: I found out that Damon Lillard requested the trade was,

2581
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll paraphrase for you, so I'm not reading

2582
02:24:20,440 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 2: the exact thing to you, but it was basically shame

2583
02:24:23,640 --> 02:24:27,680
Speaker 2: on Portland, and I'm talking about the Trailblazers franchise for

2584
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:30,520
Speaker 2: putting Damian Lillard in the situation where he has to

2585
02:24:30,560 --> 02:24:34,040
Speaker 2: force his way out. Yeah, because agreed, like they drafted

2586
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:38,279
Speaker 2: Scoot Henderson, they drafted his replacement. They refuse to build

2587
02:24:38,280 --> 02:24:41,440
Speaker 2: around him. So what is he expected to do just

2588
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:43,360
Speaker 2: to say, hey, you know what, I'm gonna hang out

2589
02:24:43,400 --> 02:24:45,080
Speaker 2: here until my contract expires.

2590
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:45,560
Speaker 8: Right?

2591
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:46,920
Speaker 2: It makes zero sense?

2592
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:47,240
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2593
02:24:47,240 --> 02:24:47,400
Speaker 7: It was.

2594
02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:47,760
Speaker 6: It was.

2595
02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:49,480
Speaker 7: The whole story was like neither of them.

2596
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:51,840
Speaker 8: Wants to be the bad guy right, and it's like, No, Portland,

2597
02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:53,280
Speaker 8: you should have been the bad guy. Should have been

2598
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:56,480
Speaker 8: He's been here this whole time for you. You should

2599
02:24:56,480 --> 02:24:57,879
Speaker 8: have been the bad guy instead of putting him in

2600
02:24:57,879 --> 02:24:58,279
Speaker 8: this position.

2601
02:24:58,320 --> 02:24:59,080
Speaker 7: I agree with you, Richard.

2602
02:24:59,120 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm the bad guy still.

2603
02:25:01,720 --> 02:25:05,720
Speaker 8: Man. Let's move on to Major League Baseball. Sub games

2604
02:25:05,800 --> 02:25:08,240
Speaker 8: have wrapped up like the Braves. They've won eight in

2605
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:10,800
Speaker 8: a row. They beat the Marlin six to three. Ronald

2606
02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 8: de Cunya Juniors two stolen bases in this game. He's

2607
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:17,080
Speaker 8: up to thirty nine. Luis Araz of the Marlins. He

2608
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:19,119
Speaker 8: went two for four, so his batting average right now

2609
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:19,640
Speaker 8: is three.

2610
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:20,400
Speaker 1: Point eighty eight.

2611
02:25:20,760 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 8: The Brewers beat the Pirates six to three, and the

2612
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:25,879
Speaker 8: Reds with the forty three victory over the Padres. So

2613
02:25:25,959 --> 02:25:28,800
Speaker 8: Milwaukee and Cincinnati are still tied for the top spot

2614
02:25:28,840 --> 02:25:31,520
Speaker 8: in the NL Central. The Orioles they snapped a four

2615
02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:33,720
Speaker 8: game losing streak. They beat the Twins two to one.

2616
02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:35,640
Speaker 8: Games going on right now. I don't even want to

2617
02:25:35,680 --> 02:25:36,240
Speaker 8: mention this, but.

2618
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:38,680
Speaker 7: The Royals are just all over the Dodgers ran.

2619
02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:41,600
Speaker 8: What is happening? Nine to one is the score top

2620
02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:44,400
Speaker 8: of the eighth inning. The Cardinals have extended their lead

2621
02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:46,880
Speaker 8: over the Yankees. It's four to one bottom of the eighth.

2622
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:49,400
Speaker 8: The Red Sox holding on to their lead over the

2623
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:51,680
Speaker 8: Blue Jays. It's five to four bottom of the ninth

2624
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:55,400
Speaker 8: inning in Toronto. About to get started. Nationals still holding

2625
02:25:55,440 --> 02:25:57,880
Speaker 8: onto that Stone Garrett grand slam, so they're beating the

2626
02:25:57,879 --> 02:26:01,400
Speaker 8: Phillies five to four. Bottom of the ninth in Philadelphia.

2627
02:26:01,480 --> 02:26:03,720
Speaker 8: Phillies are down to their final two outs, they don't

2628
02:26:03,720 --> 02:26:05,879
Speaker 8: have a man on base. Astros have tied the game

2629
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:08,280
Speaker 8: against the Rangers. They're tied at one apiece bottom of

2630
02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:10,920
Speaker 8: the seventh and the Tigers. They also had a grand

2631
02:26:10,959 --> 02:26:14,320
Speaker 8: slam from Javier Baiaz, his eighth career grand slam. They've

2632
02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:16,600
Speaker 8: extended their lead over the Rockies. It's eight to four

2633
02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:19,360
Speaker 8: bottom of the fifth. The Angels were just beating the

2634
02:26:19,360 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 8: Diamondbacks thanks to Mike trout solo home run four hundred

2635
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:25,119
Speaker 8: and thirty six feet, but it looks like the Diamondbacks

2636
02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:27,040
Speaker 8: have just taken the lead. It's two to one top

2637
02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:30,160
Speaker 8: of the second inning and the Mariners have scored, but

2638
02:26:30,200 --> 02:26:32,400
Speaker 8: the Rays are still up two to one. Bottom of

2639
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:34,800
Speaker 8: the second, and the latest in NBA is that Eric

2640
02:26:34,840 --> 02:26:36,920
Speaker 8: Gordon has agreed to a deal with the Suns.

2641
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:38,439
Speaker 7: Apparently he had.

2642
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:42,240
Speaker 8: Lucrative offers from the Warriors, the Bucks, and even a

2643
02:26:42,280 --> 02:26:44,640
Speaker 8: reunion with the Rockets, but he chose to play with

2644
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:47,279
Speaker 8: the Suns because of their stacked roster.

2645
02:26:47,720 --> 02:26:49,080
Speaker 7: Back to you guys, it's.

2646
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:52,800
Speaker 1: Been fun the stacked roster of the Suns.

2647
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:53,240
Speaker 7: Correct.

2648
02:26:53,640 --> 02:26:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, they have three really good players.

2649
02:26:55,959 --> 02:26:59,720
Speaker 7: I think that's all they're relying on, and dere.

2650
02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 8: Well DeAndre and I think they're just relying on those

2651
02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:03,600
Speaker 8: three and then they're not going to have a bench,

2652
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:04,760
Speaker 8: that's my guess.

2653
02:27:04,959 --> 02:27:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like the Lakers are going with fourteen where

2654
02:27:08,400 --> 02:27:10,879
Speaker 2: they could have fifteen. The Suns are going with.

2655
02:27:10,800 --> 02:27:12,320
Speaker 7: Five exactly, and then that's it.

2656
02:27:12,360 --> 02:27:13,320
Speaker 2: Five players, that's it.

2657
02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, four and a half. Good luck, That's what I

2658
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,920
Speaker 1: would say on that one. Montie, great stuff, as always,

2659
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:20,199
Speaker 1: we always appreciated.

2660
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:21,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2661
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go back to how a certain

2662
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:29,760
Speaker 1: player in the NBA his stock went through the stratosphere

2663
02:27:29,959 --> 02:27:33,439
Speaker 1: so much so that he was able to take control

2664
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:38,240
Speaker 1: of another organization, and that's Kawhi Leonard. When we go

2665
02:27:38,320 --> 02:27:41,320
Speaker 1: back to his single season in Toronto, that twenty eighteen

2666
02:27:41,320 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen season, there were some interesting numbers from

2667
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:47,560
Speaker 1: that season. First of all, they were coming off a

2668
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:51,160
Speaker 1: season in which they won fifty nine games. His year,

2669
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 1: they won fifty eight games. It's actually won one less.

2670
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:58,000
Speaker 1: What was even more amazing about that regular season, he

2671
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:02,280
Speaker 1: played in sixty games. In the twenty two games that

2672
02:28:02,320 --> 02:28:06,320
Speaker 1: he did not play, the Raptors record was seventeen and five,

2673
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:10,240
Speaker 1: So they actually had a higher winning percentage in games

2674
02:28:10,280 --> 02:28:12,560
Speaker 1: he didn't play than he did play. And then we

2675
02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:14,959
Speaker 1: got into the playoffs. You remember the second round against

2676
02:28:14,959 --> 02:28:18,080
Speaker 1: the Sixers when he had said miracle shot that bounces

2677
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:22,280
Speaker 1: five times and goes in in Game seven? What if

2678
02:28:22,280 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't bounce in? All right, So they go to overtime,

2679
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:27,360
Speaker 1: maybe lose that game. And then of course the NBA

2680
02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:30,959
Speaker 1: Finals they ran into a Warriors team that was literally

2681
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,760
Speaker 1: falling apowt Durant didn't play more than a minute or

2682
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:37,600
Speaker 1: so of one game, and then obviously even Klay Thompson

2683
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:39,360
Speaker 1: got hurt at the end of that series. So it

2684
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:42,560
Speaker 1: was a perfect storm. Everything worked in the favor and

2685
02:28:42,600 --> 02:28:44,520
Speaker 1: he emerged. And this is not to take away that

2686
02:28:44,560 --> 02:28:48,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing great basketball, because he was, but for

2687
02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:51,760
Speaker 1: that Raptors team to win a championship. They needed a

2688
02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:55,600
Speaker 1: little help along the way, and everything fell their way.

2689
02:28:55,840 --> 02:29:00,840
Speaker 1: And then he goes to the Clippers where he found

2690
02:29:02,080 --> 02:29:05,360
Speaker 1: a man worth ninety billion dollars willing to play with

2691
02:29:05,480 --> 02:29:10,480
Speaker 1: him to say, whatever you want, I will get you.

2692
02:29:11,920 --> 02:29:16,120
Speaker 1: And that was Paul George. By the way, the Clippers

2693
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:18,560
Speaker 1: still do not have a first round pick until twenty

2694
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:22,840
Speaker 1: twenty seven because of the deal they had to make

2695
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:30,240
Speaker 1: to appease Kawhi Leonard to acquire Paul George. And what

2696
02:29:30,280 --> 02:29:32,920
Speaker 1: has that got in the Clippers? Yeah, not a lot,

2697
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,959
Speaker 1: It hasn't nothing. And by the way, MONSI, can we

2698
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:38,080
Speaker 1: turn on Monsei's mic for one more moment. I hate

2699
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:41,400
Speaker 1: to bring this up because she is our resident Clippers fan.

2700
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:46,120
Speaker 1: And we mentioned the fact that the organization, because of

2701
02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:50,920
Speaker 1: really the mess they created by mortgaging everything in order

2702
02:29:50,959 --> 02:29:55,200
Speaker 1: to get Kawhi Leonard, they're doubling down and talking about

2703
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:56,360
Speaker 1: extending the deals.

2704
02:29:56,520 --> 02:29:58,959
Speaker 7: Yeah no, no, I r I'm against it.

2705
02:29:59,080 --> 02:30:03,800
Speaker 8: I already already I'm doubling down on my disapproval of

2706
02:30:03,879 --> 02:30:04,520
Speaker 8: the extension.

2707
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me ask you this then, because

2708
02:30:07,080 --> 02:30:10,640
Speaker 1: we've heard about James Harden, Why James Harden, why not

2709
02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:11,960
Speaker 1: go after Damian Lillard.

2710
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:14,640
Speaker 7: Listen, Yeah, it makes no sense. It makes no sense.

2711
02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:16,640
Speaker 8: But I will say at least James Harden plays more

2712
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:19,560
Speaker 8: than twenty games, So hey, there is that.

2713
02:30:19,879 --> 02:30:22,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I don't I have nothing to get.

2714
02:30:22,520 --> 02:30:24,280
Speaker 7: I think James Harden still has a lot to offer.

2715
02:30:24,320 --> 02:30:25,960
Speaker 8: I think he's still a really good player, and I

2716
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:28,200
Speaker 8: think he fits into a lot of teams. It's just

2717
02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:31,120
Speaker 8: more of a personality and I don't see how I

2718
02:30:31,360 --> 02:30:33,080
Speaker 8: see him fitting with the Clippers if he were to

2719
02:30:33,080 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 8: come to LA. But it's not gonna help us. It's

2720
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:36,200
Speaker 8: not gonna make or break us.

2721
02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:40,640
Speaker 2: Instead of James Harden, just add more toilets and urinals

2722
02:30:40,720 --> 02:30:42,280
Speaker 2: to the new Clippers Arena.

2723
02:30:42,640 --> 02:30:43,240
Speaker 7: It right now?

2724
02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:47,520
Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, Steve Baumer. Steve Baumer at the

2725
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:50,879
Speaker 2: build site of the new LA Clippers Arena. Instead of

2726
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:55,280
Speaker 2: talking about the super team he's building or promising fans championships,

2727
02:30:55,320 --> 02:30:58,240
Speaker 2: he went eleven hundred.

2728
02:30:57,959 --> 02:31:00,000
Speaker 7: Toilets in jurnals Meteah.

2729
02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:03,040
Speaker 2: You know, listen, my people, look, you will not need

2730
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:06,720
Speaker 2: to wait in line any longer to relieve yourself.

2731
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:11,640
Speaker 1: This is what the Steve Bomber thought by getting Kawhi

2732
02:31:11,760 --> 02:31:15,520
Speaker 1: Leonard that he finally was going to win a championship, right, Yeah,

2733
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I got the hottest guy in the NBA in the moment.

2734
02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Ignoring the fact that a lot of things happen in

2735
02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:25,400
Speaker 1: favor of Kawhi, I love that.

2736
02:31:25,640 --> 02:31:28,040
Speaker 8: No, for sure, he definitely at least thought we were

2737
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:30,160
Speaker 8: going to have a real chance, and we have have

2738
02:31:30,320 --> 02:31:31,760
Speaker 8: not even had a real chance.

2739
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:34,560
Speaker 2: You have toilets, toilets.

2740
02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:36,120
Speaker 7: Not even yet. I don't even have those toilets yet.

2741
02:31:36,120 --> 02:31:36,720
Speaker 7: That's the problem.

2742
02:31:36,879 --> 02:31:38,720
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question about toilets?

2743
02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Sixty toilets?

2744
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:40,640
Speaker 7: Toilets?

2745
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:44,279
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this? Do you do you believe

2746
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:48,480
Speaker 1: in public bathrooms that they should be open to all?

2747
02:31:49,640 --> 02:31:52,800
Speaker 1: You mean, like like like for no designation of men's

2748
02:31:52,840 --> 02:31:56,360
Speaker 1: or women's bathrooms. We we're heading in that direction. You

2749
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:56,960
Speaker 1: do understand?

2750
02:31:57,160 --> 02:31:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know what.

2751
02:31:58,520 --> 02:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Here's here's when I asked you this. Where you live

2752
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:02,280
Speaker 1: in your in your home that you grew up in,

2753
02:32:02,440 --> 02:32:03,720
Speaker 1: was there a men's bathroom and women?

2754
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:04,440
Speaker 7: Of course not.

2755
02:32:04,600 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 1: There's no house that I know, No way, no.

2756
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:10,920
Speaker 8: As long as there are individual stalls, I don't think

2757
02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:12,760
Speaker 8: I would have a problem with it, but I wouldn't

2758
02:32:12,760 --> 02:32:13,560
Speaker 8: force anyone to do it.

2759
02:32:13,600 --> 02:32:15,600
Speaker 7: But I personally I wouldn't have a problem with it.

2760
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm a man who likes to preserve romance, you know.

2761
02:32:20,879 --> 02:32:24,480
Speaker 2: I look at the opposite sex as something of.

2762
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:25,400
Speaker 1: The opposite sex.

2763
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Well, well, no, just like something of like you know.

2764
02:32:27,959 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a grace and a beauty and a

2765
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:34,520
Speaker 2: demure and a I don't know something.

2766
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:36,640
Speaker 1: So you don't want to think about their bathroom.

2767
02:32:37,160 --> 02:32:38,640
Speaker 8: So you don't want to talk to me in the

2768
02:32:38,680 --> 02:32:41,000
Speaker 8: stall next to me, rich as we're both using the restroom.

2769
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:41,680
Speaker 1: You don't want to do that.

2770
02:32:41,720 --> 02:32:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, if we went to a Clippers game and

2771
02:32:43,800 --> 02:32:47,520
Speaker 2: you and I needed to sit down at neighboring toilets

2772
02:32:47,640 --> 02:32:50,360
Speaker 2: because there are eleven hundred and sixty one of them,

2773
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:56,199
Speaker 2: But maybe we end up stallmates. I don't I don't

2774
02:32:56,240 --> 02:32:57,880
Speaker 2: know if I want to. I don't want to. I

2775
02:32:57,920 --> 02:33:00,280
Speaker 2: don't want to hear the overtures, like I just sort

2776
02:33:00,320 --> 02:33:03,480
Speaker 2: of I want to leave something to the imagination, right.

2777
02:33:03,560 --> 02:33:06,600
Speaker 1: I got a question for Ryan and Sam Ryan Sham

2778
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 1: have either one of you used the women's bathroom in

2779
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:16,840
Speaker 1: this building? Well, uh, yes, it's no longer. It's now

2780
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:22,119
Speaker 1: just anything, but they were they were designated separate.

2781
02:33:22,600 --> 02:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but everything goes now. I mean it's like, you.

2782
02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Know, they are single occupancy.

2783
02:33:27,280 --> 02:33:29,480
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, that's the one rule is you can't

2784
02:33:29,560 --> 02:33:32,800
Speaker 2: double up. That is one just because because they used

2785
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:33,680
Speaker 2: to there was.

2786
02:33:33,640 --> 02:33:36,400
Speaker 8: A no Yeah it was my personal bathroom for a

2787
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:38,360
Speaker 8: hot second and key and everything.

2788
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:40,039
Speaker 7: How is that not fair?

2789
02:33:40,480 --> 02:33:44,480
Speaker 8: Because one is disgusting, disgusting exactly.

2790
02:33:44,600 --> 02:33:46,760
Speaker 7: The perfect one is the one that was not for men.

2791
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:49,640
Speaker 2: I just don't understand, like aim like to me, it

2792
02:33:49,720 --> 02:33:54,199
Speaker 2: all seems very simple, but there are certain gentlemen I

2793
02:33:54,240 --> 02:33:56,360
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe ladies too. But I haven't spent

2794
02:33:56,400 --> 02:34:00,440
Speaker 2: as many times as much time in women's rooms, but

2795
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:02,959
Speaker 2: it just sort of seems like, I mean, do certain

2796
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:07,400
Speaker 2: people they just stand like, I don't understand how things

2797
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:08,400
Speaker 2: end up where they do.

2798
02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:12,120
Speaker 8: Sometimes good question, Yeah, please explain to me.

2799
02:34:12,440 --> 02:34:15,080
Speaker 7: I just is it a game? Is it a target?

2800
02:34:15,160 --> 02:34:16,520
Speaker 7: Do we stand ten feet away?

2801
02:34:16,720 --> 02:34:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't What do we do?

2802
02:34:17,680 --> 02:34:19,800
Speaker 1: Fellas guys? Do you enjoy when you go to a

2803
02:34:19,959 --> 02:34:23,000
Speaker 1: urinal and there's a target? I do you like to

2804
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:25,160
Speaker 1: have a face at the bottom or something like.

2805
02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:28,240
Speaker 2: That, like there's a little that barsel you know, there's

2806
02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:31,600
Speaker 2: like a little full size sticker. Yeah, yeah, well listen,

2807
02:34:31,720 --> 02:34:35,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna when you go to the Clippers new arena,

2808
02:34:36,200 --> 02:34:37,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna have eleven.

2809
02:34:37,480 --> 02:34:39,280
Speaker 1: This is why I've been on Earth so long. You

2810
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:43,600
Speaker 1: have to know the answer to these unbelievably important questions.

2811
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:45,800
Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll put a rap on this thing.

2812
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:49,200
Speaker 1: Give our thoughts on what should over the fourth of

2813
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:52,680
Speaker 1: July holiday. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

2814
02:34:53,560 --> 02:34:57,960
Speaker 6: The pitch and Deer hammers it high, deep drive left field,

2815
02:34:57,959 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 6: way back there and way gone over the kroger Ks

2816
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:06,879
Speaker 6: and left the two run home run for Spencer Steer

2817
02:35:06,920 --> 02:35:11,800
Speaker 6: and the Reds have the lead, fires the payoff pitch

2818
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:13,000
Speaker 6: swing and it's a.

2819
02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:14,840
Speaker 1: Line drive right at Indian.

2820
02:35:14,959 --> 02:35:17,120
Speaker 2: He makes the catch and that's it.

2821
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:19,400
Speaker 1: Reds win it four to three.

2822
02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:22,879
Speaker 6: They hold on to beat the Podres and take the series.

2823
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:27,480
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Speaker 1: dot com. Once again, Steve Harbman Rich Ornberger with you

2829
02:35:43,400 --> 02:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the TI raq

2830
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:48,800
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2831
02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:53,400
Speaker 1: our supporting crew today. It's an all star lineup starting

2832
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:59,320
Speaker 1: with Iowa Sam. Who Sam, you are a couple hours away.

2833
02:35:59,840 --> 02:36:02,760
Speaker 1: You have two more hours of work. Uh, and then

2834
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:05,240
Speaker 1: you're going to make the direct line, Like just blow

2835
02:36:05,280 --> 02:36:07,080
Speaker 1: on the last two hours and come on over. Yeah,

2836
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 1: so we'll be we'll be ready for you. And then

2837
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:12,720
Speaker 1: I guess next week you'll have the full report because

2838
02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:15,280
Speaker 1: Rich is planning on making the trip next week.

2839
02:36:15,320 --> 02:36:18,160
Speaker 3: I will present Rich with the blueprints of your home, yes,

2840
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:21,440
Speaker 3: including where all the electrical work is.

2841
02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:24,959
Speaker 1: And yes, yes he's going.

2842
02:36:27,120 --> 02:36:28,840
Speaker 2: By one of the things your house. I'm going to

2843
02:36:28,879 --> 02:36:29,640
Speaker 2: take the jewelry.

2844
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:31,160
Speaker 1: One of the things you're going to find out about

2845
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:33,920
Speaker 1: the harbor house. We have full fridges, all right, Like

2846
02:36:34,000 --> 02:36:36,360
Speaker 1: you got a cold beer for me? Multiple, Yes, I'll

2847
02:36:36,400 --> 02:36:37,039
Speaker 1: be a pas.

2848
02:36:37,440 --> 02:36:37,879
Speaker 2: I love it.

2849
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Let's do it again, all right, all very Moncey, you're

2850
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:43,400
Speaker 1: invited if you ever want to come on over your

2851
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:44,000
Speaker 1: house as well.

2852
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:46,520
Speaker 7: I mean I think Brian can do the updates. Yeah,

2853
02:36:46,600 --> 02:36:47,720
Speaker 7: and do according to Mancy.

2854
02:36:47,959 --> 02:36:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you did it all.

2855
02:36:48,959 --> 02:36:51,120
Speaker 7: I'm in, I'm in, I'll have an I p a yeah.

2856
02:36:51,240 --> 02:36:53,959
Speaker 1: And then well, uh, my brother in law came in

2857
02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:56,920
Speaker 1: yesterday with my sister. He discovered I p as. I

2858
02:36:57,160 --> 02:36:59,640
Speaker 1: forgot who even had and I think he had half

2859
02:36:59,680 --> 02:37:02,920
Speaker 1: a dozen. All right, that's the Iowa way. Yeah, And

2860
02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:05,480
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a big physical guy like

2861
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:08,600
Speaker 1: he's That's how people fitness characterize me, too big and physical.

2862
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:10,920
Speaker 3: Now you'll see him and you'll see that I'm just

2863
02:37:10,959 --> 02:37:12,279
Speaker 3: big and not physical.

2864
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:16,520
Speaker 1: Ryan is consistent in his look and everything else. Ryan's

2865
02:37:16,520 --> 02:37:18,920
Speaker 1: good to see you. Every time I see you here,

2866
02:37:18,959 --> 02:37:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'll never literally see you again, but.

2867
02:37:23,240 --> 02:37:30,360
Speaker 2: I never see he's moved on. It's not it's not him,

2868
02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:31,200
Speaker 2: it's you.

2869
02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently so. By the way, Rich, we just played

2870
02:37:35,360 --> 02:37:38,920
Speaker 1: another low life for the San Diego Potress. There is

2871
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:43,160
Speaker 1: there is nothing worse when you're doing a local you know,

2872
02:37:43,400 --> 02:37:46,440
Speaker 1: radio than the home team sucking.

2873
02:37:46,959 --> 02:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for reminding me.

2874
02:37:48,160 --> 02:37:50,560
Speaker 1: And I know the Pottery fans they were upset to me.

2875
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:54,560
Speaker 1: I said something I guess derogatory a couple of months ago, like, oh,

2876
02:37:54,600 --> 02:37:58,440
Speaker 1: come on, man, it's early in the season. Just do

2877
02:37:58,520 --> 02:38:02,440
Speaker 1: the math. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean,

2878
02:38:02,480 --> 02:38:05,080
Speaker 1: if you're you're looking at a team that now they're

2879
02:38:05,160 --> 02:38:07,920
Speaker 1: lost today are thirty eight and forty six. That's eighty

2880
02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:12,400
Speaker 1: four games. That's seventy eight games left. Yeah, if they

2881
02:38:12,400 --> 02:38:14,680
Speaker 1: were to win, I mean, what do you think to

2882
02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:18,080
Speaker 1: get into like the second one, probably eighty eight wins, right, I.

2883
02:38:18,040 --> 02:38:19,720
Speaker 2: Was gonna say eighty six eighty eight something.

2884
02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:22,800
Speaker 1: So in order to get to just eighty eight wins, Yeah,

2885
02:38:23,280 --> 02:38:25,760
Speaker 1: they would have to go fifty and twenty eight the

2886
02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:26,440
Speaker 1: rest of the year.

2887
02:38:26,560 --> 02:38:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not happening.

2888
02:38:28,080 --> 02:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, yeah, how's that working that? I mean,

2889
02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 1: I know they're still selling out bet goal that they

2890
02:38:34,320 --> 02:38:36,280
Speaker 1: seem to be booing them off the field, but they're

2891
02:38:36,280 --> 02:38:38,320
Speaker 1: still showing up the padres.

2892
02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:41,800
Speaker 2: Well, they're still those tickets are sold. They're they're not

2893
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:44,560
Speaker 2: necessarily showing up in the mass the way they were.

2894
02:38:44,680 --> 02:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Tickets sold.

2895
02:38:45,480 --> 02:38:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, those tickets are sold. Though, I'll say this, this

2896
02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:51,880
Speaker 2: is less of a baseball team and more of a

2897
02:38:51,920 --> 02:38:56,640
Speaker 2: baseball card collection. You know you've got you've got a

2898
02:38:56,760 --> 02:39:00,920
Speaker 2: random assortment of great players, But just because you know

2899
02:39:01,080 --> 02:39:03,200
Speaker 2: you got them all in the same box doesn't mean

2900
02:39:03,240 --> 02:39:06,360
Speaker 2: that they're they're all they're all playing for each other.

2901
02:39:06,600 --> 02:39:08,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know what they're gonna have to do now

2902
02:39:08,280 --> 02:39:12,360
Speaker 1: this happened to the Podres back in twenty fifteen when

2903
02:39:12,400 --> 02:39:14,880
Speaker 1: they acquired a bunch of big name free agents member

2904
02:39:14,920 --> 02:39:17,440
Speaker 1: Matt Kemp and now all these guys they brought in.

2905
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:22,160
Speaker 1: It didn't work and they unloaded them at the trade deadline.

2906
02:39:22,879 --> 02:39:26,440
Speaker 1: Do you see a mass exodus of these star players

2907
02:39:27,640 --> 02:39:30,080
Speaker 1: to try to get you know, some you know, sizable

2908
02:39:30,120 --> 02:39:34,039
Speaker 1: return obviously for future Padre teams.

2909
02:39:34,240 --> 02:39:36,959
Speaker 2: I don't think that the owner is ready to hit

2910
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:39,920
Speaker 2: the reset button based on the things that he said

2911
02:39:39,959 --> 02:39:43,560
Speaker 2: and promised this city. But I could listen. If they

2912
02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:46,520
Speaker 2: continue to struggle, if they missed the postseason this year,

2913
02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:49,560
Speaker 2: there's gonna be major changes in the organization. I could

2914
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:50,080
Speaker 2: promise you that.

2915
02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're gonna uload everybody. All right, Sam,

2916
02:39:53,200 --> 02:39:55,440
Speaker 1: I hope you're ready. I hope you're ready. Sam, Keep

2917
02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:57,400
Speaker 1: it here on Fox Sports Radio.