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Speaker 4: I've just been handed a news bulletin, a printed page

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Speaker 4: Paul kelvicre Ron Wolfy there and one week from tonight, Wolf, Yes,

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Speaker 8: We've been competing in the weight room. When we're done lifting,

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Speaker 1: And I don't let.

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Speaker 1: But he beat me in that.

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Speaker 8: Surprising sides all Right, Now we're hopping on a bike

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Speaker 4: by Evan Brown, the aforementioned Paris Johnson Junior. Sounds like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. He uh, he thought he was gonna

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Speaker 4: So you used to race cars. We'll get into that

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Speaker 4: It's good. No, that's good. By the way, I didn't

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Speaker 4: So I mean, just in general, how competitive does it

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Speaker 8: He plays smart and he's actually super athletic. Like he's

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Speaker 4: See that's a young guy right there with roadblocks reference, right,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was they. They didn't do offensive

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Speaker 4: Were you a product of the whole Friday night lights

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy that?

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Speaker 4: Do you remember Kyler Murray all high school?

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately? Yes, I remember him beating us both my junior

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Speaker 4: How big a deal was Kyler Murray as a high

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Speaker 6: He was as big as it comes to me. I

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Speaker 4: Evan Brown is our guest Cardinals starting left guard man,

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Speaker 6: bad rap or a negative rap, but like a player's

436
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Speaker 6: coach knows how to you know, work as hard, but

437
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,959
Speaker 6: also knows how to take care of the guys when

438
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Speaker 6: we need it. I think he does. He's done a

439
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Speaker 6: good job for what I've seen of that so far.

440
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Speaker 4: This offense was top five and rushing last year number

441
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Speaker 4: two in yards per carry and it was actually the

442
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Speaker 4: same by Jonathan Gannon and we abed it and used it,

443
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 4: cram it vertical the run game Go North. It's one

444
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Speaker 4: of his favorite scenes. But at the same time, you

445
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Speaker 4: guys are also asked to get into space. So in

446
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Speaker 4: terms of this scheme and what you know from Drew

447
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Speaker 4: petscene and what you've seen so far, how good a

448
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Speaker 4: fit is this you for considering you're not as a

449
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Speaker 4: strong guy, but in an athletic guy would seem to

450
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Speaker 4: match up pretty well.

451
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I definitely fit And like the scheme,

452
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 6: you know, really well, it's you know, as we say multiple,

453
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Speaker 6: we're not really gonna feature one thing. We're gonna feature

454
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Speaker 6: a lot of different looks, a lot of different schemes,

455
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Speaker 6: a lot of different gap scheme, wide zone, tight zone,

456
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Speaker 6: pin and pull outside, whatever it may be. You know,

457
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Speaker 6: we do it all. So it's a lot of looks

458
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Speaker 6: that you know, defense got to contend with with trying

459
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Speaker 6: to fit their runs and fit their gap. So I

460
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Speaker 6: think it's for sure a benefit to us a hindrance

461
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Speaker 6: to the defense. And you know, as long as you

462
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Speaker 6: know where assignment sound we're gonna be We're gonna be good,

463
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Speaker 6: and we're gonna keep it rolling.

464
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Speaker 4: And what's it like being on the field being a

465
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Speaker 4: teammate of Kyler Murray? And what can you tell about

466
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Speaker 4: this offense so far?

467
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's dynamic man. His ability to move and

468
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Speaker 6: run his second to none. I mean, his ability to

469
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Speaker 6: evade out there if he needs to and use his legs.

470
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Speaker 6: But also, you know, decision making the pucket has really

471
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Speaker 6: been been good this camp. And love to see it.

472
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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm happy I don't have to be

473
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Speaker 6: sitting against him watching him, you know, make ten guys

474
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Speaker 6: miss out there going for eighty yards on a touchdown

475
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Speaker 6: that I remember from high school.

476
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Speaker 4: So over the years, we've seen him at the Old

477
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Speaker 4: Line dinner on Thursday night. Take us inside an O

478
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Speaker 4: Line dinner. I'm always intrigued by the big guys. It's

479
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Speaker 4: my favorite position room. Okay, maybe because I'm Polly pencilneck.

480
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Speaker 4: But when you guys sit down to order, I mean,

481
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Speaker 4: how long does it take to order? How much food

482
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Speaker 4: shows up? Just just tell us about that.

483
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Speaker 6: Yeah, normally one guy grabs the appetizers and just rolls off.

484
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Speaker 6: You know, let's get two or three of these. Let's

485
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Speaker 6: get two or three of those. What are you any

486
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Speaker 6: specials of those? Let's get a couple of those. You

487
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Speaker 6: seafood tower here and there, So roll off with some

488
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Speaker 6: apps and then they come back. Normally everybody gets a

489
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Speaker 6: super a salad and then a steak or you know,

490
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Speaker 6: whatever the type of restaurant we're at, and then you

491
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Speaker 6: always got to get dessert too. So it's a good,

492
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Speaker 6: good event, good bonding time for the guys and and

493
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Speaker 6: you know, a fun time to be around.

494
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Speaker 4: And I hear that, you know, o lineman, find each other.

495
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Speaker 4: What gets a guy fined these days? How or why

496
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Speaker 4: would you get fined? Is an alignment in the room,

497
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Speaker 4: Oh man, being a rookie, just just being a rookie.

498
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Speaker 4: You know, I din't even go too much into that,

499
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Speaker 4: but just being a rookie. Yeah, that's a fine rookie

500
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Speaker 4: mistake for sure.

501
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Speaker 6: And then you know can be anything from you know,

502
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Speaker 6: being sensitive about stuff to you know, I'm sure we'll

503
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Speaker 6: have some some game related fines based upon you know,

504
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 6: how we perform out there. You know, there's some some

505
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Speaker 6: media finds. I'm sure I'm probably gonna get one for this.

506
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 6: We'll see, uh, and then you know, some some you know,

507
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 6: call out fines and there's a whole bunch of other stuff,

508
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Speaker 6: but it's it's a fun experience.

509
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Speaker 4: How about any plaudits, I mean, any bonuses paid out?

510
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Speaker 4: Like Will Hernandez in the mustache, I mean, come on,

511
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Speaker 4: that's next level. He needs a round of applause for that,

512
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Speaker 4: doesn't he?

513
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Speaker 6: I think?

514
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Speaker 1: So.

515
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Speaker 6: I think it's a great looking stash and a great

516
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Speaker 6: looking look.

517
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Speaker 4: All right, So I gotta find this out. You were

518
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Speaker 4: a race car driver in two.

519
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Speaker 6: Probably when I was fourteen or fifteen.

520
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Speaker 4: Okay, because all of a sudden you were heavier and

521
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Speaker 4: bigger than probably the drive train, right.

522
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Speaker 6: Oh, pretty pretty close?

523
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Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

524
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Speaker 6: So. I raced for about ten years growing up, when

525
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Speaker 6: I was about four or five, do about fourteen or fifteen,

526
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Speaker 6: like carts or yeah. I started in in go karts

527
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Speaker 6: for a long while, which is you know, open body,

528
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Speaker 6: open wheel, and then moved into you know, what's called

529
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Speaker 6: like a bandolero, into a legend car, which is just

530
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Speaker 6: kind of the different classes that I raced in types

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Speaker 6: of cars, and eventually, you know, when I was racing

532
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Speaker 6: legend cars, it was like you had to have a

533
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Speaker 6: weight without the driver minimum and then a weight with

534
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Speaker 6: the driver. So I was always way over the weight

535
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Speaker 6: limb that once I got in the car, because you

536
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Speaker 6: can't you can't take out so much because the cars

537
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Speaker 6: got a weigh that and I was over the weight limit.

538
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Speaker 6: So I was always racing heavy. And you know, I

539
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Speaker 6: just got to the time where it was, you know,

540
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Speaker 6: focusing on football throughout you know, high school and stuff

541
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Speaker 6: and racing that to stop. But it was a really

542
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Speaker 6: really fun, you know hobby that me and my dad did.

543
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Speaker 6: You know, throughout the summers when I was growing up.

544
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Speaker 6: We would travel all across the southeast US racing and

545
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Speaker 6: all the digital states.

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Speaker 4: That's really cool. Yeah, Max Melton showed up in a

547
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Speaker 4: supercar to camp. Do you go and make you know,

548
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Speaker 4: give Max Melton some tips? How did you handle all

549
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: that horsepower? Those are some fun, fun, fun big cars

550
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Speaker 4: sitting out there. Now, I didn't go that fast.

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Speaker 1: That's good, all right.

552
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Speaker 4: Well, look, we look forward to it this year, there's

553
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. And uh man, are we eager

554
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: to get this thing rolling. We just love the fact

555
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Speaker 4: that Cardinals were top five and rushing and they upgraded,

556
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: they upgraded along the offensive line. They've added weapons in

557
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Speaker 4: the run game the past game, so we're looking forward

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Speaker 4: to it. Thanks for the time, Evan, pretty absolutely looking

559
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Speaker 4: forward to the season. There you go, Evan Brown. Everyone

560
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Speaker 3: Pre step drop for strap from the pocket, pass over

566
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Speaker 3: the middle, picked off mid tenercepted by Barnes at the tent,

567
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Speaker 3: running it back to the left of the twenty at

568
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Speaker 3: the thirties, Bart's turnning on the jets of the forties

569
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Speaker 3: and finally tackle the midfield to deflected pass.

570
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Speaker 1: Into Chris Barnes and then man Chris Barnes looking ladies

571
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Speaker 1: running up four to four.

572
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's no exaggeration. Passion wolf call. In that game

573
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Speaker 4: in Houston a year ago, I was down in the

574
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Speaker 4: sidelines and the whole sideline got up off the benches.

575
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Speaker 4: One thinking he was gonna house that for a hot moment,

576
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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden somebody had the angle

577
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: on him. A skill player, but well if you know

578
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: better than anyone playing ten years in the league. You

579
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Speaker 4: gotta have to have the skill, but you better have

580
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Speaker 4: the speed. I mean, you got to be able to

581
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Speaker 4: run in the NFL, and it's amazing even a backup

582
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Speaker 4: linebacker like Chris Barnes, all that athleticism. We had him

583
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Speaker 4: on the Big Red Rage a couple of weeks ago

584
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Speaker 4: from Indianapolis. He was a guy who didn't make the

585
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Speaker 4: initial fifty three, but he's back on after some roster mechanics,

586
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Speaker 4: as the coach likes to call it, boom. He is

587
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Speaker 4: part of that Cardinals revamped defense going forward.

588
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Speaker 1: Pollie, there's no doubt about it. I'm glad you brought

589
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Speaker 1: that up right there, because for the record, Paul, even

590
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: this fullback ran a four to five eight and a

591
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Speaker 1: four to five night at the Combine. At the Combine, Paul,

592
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: so you know, you gotta have the wheels you always do.

593
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Speaker 1: Never forget that, Polly.

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Speaker 4: Is it convenient there's no YouTube footage of that? Is that?

595
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Speaker 1: Is that?

596
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Speaker 4: Is that worth serve you well? That there's it wasn't

597
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Speaker 4: televised back then? Does that serve you well? In your story?

598
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Speaker 1: I will say this, though they were still using handhelds

599
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Speaker 1: if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, you know what.

601
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the guy puts the speed in the

602
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Speaker 4: speed rusher. Give me your thoughts in Xavier Thomas, I

603
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Speaker 4: mean wolf, fifth round rookie out of Clemson, and as

604
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: soon as the game slowed down mentally for him, the

605
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: game sped up for every offensive lineman who went against him. Man,

606
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Speaker 4: can he bring some athleticism off the edge?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, There's no doubt about it. He really can.

608
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Speaker 1: He is a guy that I think could line up

609
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Speaker 1: and just be better than some guys that are trying

610
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Speaker 1: to block him. Now, Polly, I don't know if that's

611
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Speaker 1: going to happen as a rookie, you know what I mean,

612
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: there's yeah, there's such a learning curve. But he's got

613
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Speaker 1: a lot of physical athleticism, he's got a lot of explosiveness.

614
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Speaker 1: He's got everything you need to turn into a very

615
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: good edge rusher. But he doesn't have the experience. How

616
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Speaker 1: quickly can he gain that experience? I don't know, But

617
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Speaker 1: I am really really excited about Xavier Thomas and what

618
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Speaker 1: he might be able to do.

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Speaker 4: To your point, Kyle Vanenbasch told us on a recent

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Speaker 4: episode of the Red Sea Report that you got to

621
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Speaker 4: remember and KVB would no better than anyone three time

622
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Speaker 4: pro bowler off the edge that there is a huge

623
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Speaker 4: drop off from a starting tackle to a backup tackle

624
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Speaker 4: in the NFL. Great point, and so you have to

625
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Speaker 4: wait and see to your point. And here's Xavier Thomas

626
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Speaker 4: meeting the media this weekend, you know, just having the

627
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Speaker 4: spotlight on him because from everything we can figure he's

628
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Speaker 4: going to have a role.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm always on taking that ever since hostital Comanis

630
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Speaker 10: and been time recruit and things like that, and then

631
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Speaker 10: playing behind those guys my freshman year Clemson, playing those

632
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Speaker 10: high on d line guys and then when they left,

633
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Speaker 10: having that spotlight on me. So it's not nothing new

634
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Speaker 10: in regards to the spotlight. I always take that. You

635
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Speaker 10: gotta regardless if anybody has a spotlight on you, they

636
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Speaker 10: have expectations that they don't have expectations. You have to

637
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Speaker 10: go out there and do what you gotta do. So

638
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Speaker 10: it's always how to take him. Just keep my head

639
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Speaker 10: down and go to work.

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Speaker 4: Xavier Thomas right there, and he did say off the

641
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Speaker 4: top of his press conference he never had a doubt

642
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Speaker 4: quote end quote, never had a doubt in my mind

643
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Speaker 4: that I was gonna make this team. And he did.

644
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Speaker 4: And he said, in fact, he was told on the

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Speaker 4: Friday before the Sunday preseason against Denver he had been

646
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Speaker 4: told you made the team. And even though he dressed

647
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Speaker 4: for the game, he didn't play in the game. So

648
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: now we'll see if he plays against Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, that makes an awful lot of sense right there.

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Speaker 1: You know what was so interesting. I was talking to

651
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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, a guy that was a cardinal of course,

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Speaker 1: and a guy that also was a Buffalo bill. Interestingly enough,

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Zoe and he said, man, he'd

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Speaker 1: love to see them take it Thomas and stick him

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Speaker 1: in third and obvious pass situations. He's got to play

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Speaker 1: the edge, of course during rundown, but third obvious pass situations,

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Speaker 1: he said, I'd like to see him line up at

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Speaker 1: maybe just right defensive end if it's his if that's

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Speaker 1: his best rush side, right defensive end, or line them

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Speaker 1: up at left defensive end if that's his best side,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, let him just stay at one spot

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Speaker 1: as opposed to moving him around and letting him go.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting to say how

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Speaker 1: they handle Xavier Thomas in third obvious pass situations.

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Speaker 4: How creative do you think Nick Rolis will get in

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Speaker 4: those third and obvious situations? Yeah, very right. I mean

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Speaker 4: Dennis gard x Xavion Collins, Victor d mccagey, Xavier Thomas

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Speaker 4: all radically different type of body types and styles of

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Speaker 4: pass rusher. Then you have Mac Wilson senior. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've seen Xavi and Collins sometimes been stuffed inside on

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Speaker 4: some of those passing downs. I just have a feeling

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Speaker 4: it's going to get downright wacky at times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, Paully. Look, they're going to have to

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Speaker 1: create pressure, of course via scheme, and that responsibility really

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Speaker 1: falls on the shoulders of JG and Nick Rawlis. You

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna work in unison of course on that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that JG has got the confidence in

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Speaker 1: Nick Rawless that they can scheme it up Paul. In

679
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Speaker 1: today's NFL, so much of the time it's which five

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Speaker 1: guys are you gonna bring? You're gonna bring five a

681
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Speaker 1: lot of the time, but which five?

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Speaker 4: And look, they fortify the defensive line, There's no doubt

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Speaker 4: about that. They do have depth. They do have talent,

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Speaker 4: and they are awaiting the return of Darius Robinson was

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Speaker 4: placed on injury reserve, designated a return, but he must

686
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Speaker 4: missed at least the first four games. And then you

687
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Speaker 4: know what they did. Insidelnebacker, Kaiser White is back, Mac

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Speaker 4: Wilson Senior. There's been competition el grande at the corner spots.

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Speaker 4: And then we got around to safety. And I asked

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon today about Buddha Baker, the six time pro bowler.

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Speaker 4: If just all the different guys around him and elevating

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Speaker 4: the talent on all three levels might have changed Buddha

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Speaker 4: Baker's role this season.

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Speaker 5: Buddha is the leader of the defense in the middle.

695
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Speaker 5: He runs the show in the back end. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's a violent hitter. He can blizz, he can cover,

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Speaker 5: he tackles. He's a huge communicator for us. He's huge

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Speaker 5: during the week, Nick and myself, we bounce things off

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Speaker 5: of him. What's he seeing for forty eight hours before

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Speaker 5: we get back in on a Wednesday. Here's what we're seeing,

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Speaker 5: this is what we're thinking, this is what.

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Speaker 1: We want to do.

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Speaker 5: How do you see that if we do make a

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Speaker 5: tweaker adjustment, He's in the know about that. We use

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Speaker 5: Buddha's brain a lot.

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Speaker 4: That was a lot more in depth than I anticipated.

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Speaker 4: Really interesting. It's almost like what you do with a

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Speaker 4: veteran quarterback if you're an offensive coordinator, right you go

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Speaker 4: to that guy and you're like, Okay, let's download your knowledge.

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Speaker 4: We're going to input it into the game plan. Sounds

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Speaker 4: like they're doing exactly the same thing on the defensive

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Speaker 4: side of the ball with Buddha.

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Speaker 1: Baker, PAULI, that is a great observation. And I can't

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Speaker 1: believe a sideline reporter actually made it, but that is

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Speaker 1: a great observation. You right there, it is. Buddha is

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, if you will, for the secondary on the

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Speaker 1: back end. He's the guy that's making a lot of

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Speaker 1: the checks that are out there. Of course, why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you go to a guy that you have so much

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Speaker 1: regard and so much respect for and pick his brain

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Speaker 1: as to what you think you ought to do and

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Speaker 1: how you ought to attack your opponent. I think that

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Speaker 1: has got to be such a natural thing for so

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Speaker 1: many coaches to do. Now, I will tell you, Paul,

725
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Speaker 1: that there are some coaches who don't want your feedback.

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Speaker 1: There are some coaches who do not, so it's a plus.

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Speaker 1: I think that they actually go and talk to Buddha

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Speaker 1: and try to get his feedback.

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Speaker 4: I'm really curious, how do they dial him up this year,

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Speaker 4: you know, and against Josh Allen, because it's never too

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Speaker 4: early to talk week one, especially at this point, you're

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Speaker 4: going to need to use a spy at times on

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Here's the other thing about the Bills. Nobody's

734
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Speaker 4: really scared of the receiver room after they lost Stefon

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Speaker 4: Diggs and Gabe Davis. Even though Stefan Diggs was a

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Speaker 4: non factor down the stretch last year when the Bills

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Speaker 4: won their last five games in a row, they went

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Speaker 4: on a tear the end of last year. Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 4: did basically nothing. I think that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: they parted ways with him. They figured out, you know what,

741
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Speaker 4: we don't need us know Stefan Diggs at this point,

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Speaker 4: but they also have that tight end to him Dawson Knox,

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Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid. Yes, to me, that's the thing that scares

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Speaker 4: me the most when it comes to the weapons on

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Speaker 4: the Bills offense. So what are you doing if you're

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Speaker 4: Nick Ross?

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Speaker 1: JG.

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Speaker 4: With a Buddha A JT. Zavi and Collins. How are

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Speaker 4: you checking those two tight ends? You know a week

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Speaker 4: and a half from now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what, You're gonna bring a lot

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Speaker 1: of different fronts. I would imagine trying to confuse the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in regard to the rushing attack. You know,

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Speaker 1: they love twelve personnel. Like you said, they got two

755
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Speaker 1: tight ends to me, the Buffalo Bills. The thing you

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Speaker 1: have to do, Paul, is you have to stop their run.

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Speaker 1: Very underrated. Everyone looks at the Bills and they say

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. They say, Josh Allen hereic come, Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball all He's gonna do. It really

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Speaker 1: is not the case the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: They are a balanced offense Paul. Number seven in rushing

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Speaker 1: yards per game, number eight and rushing yards per play.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's a great observation because when Joe

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Speaker 4: Brady took over the cron O. See he took over

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Speaker 4: midway through last year, their rushing attempts per game almost doubled.

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Speaker 4: He featured the run game to such exactly right, a

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Speaker 4: greater degree. They have much more balanced offense. So let's

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Speaker 4: just ask the captain obvious question. For a Cardinals team

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Speaker 4: that was near the bottom in most rush defense metrics,

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Speaker 4: how do you think they're equipped and prepared to defend

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Speaker 4: the run this year?

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Speaker 1: Ballal Nichols and Justin Jones. There we go, and you

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Speaker 1: know what too, I'm gonna take Kaiser White. A healthy

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Speaker 1: Kaiser White and Mac Wilson seniors will put those guys

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Speaker 1: in the box, very very tall. LJ. Collier, do not

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Speaker 1: forget about l J. Collier as well. In Roy Lopez.

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Speaker 1: Roy Lopez is a guy that I forget about all

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Speaker 1: the time. If you want to take a guy and

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Speaker 1: line him up on the center's nose, Roy Lopez, that

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Speaker 1: is your guy. He gonna hold up. He's kind of around,

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Speaker 1: but he's lost some weight. He's looking really really good,

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Speaker 1: but he still has a lot of butt and he

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Speaker 1: can take that gut and stick it on you trust me.

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Speaker 1: That's what we expect that of Roy Lopez.

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Speaker 4: You know he met the media today. I didn't realize

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Speaker 4: his uncle played in the NFL. His uncle is a

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Speaker 4: D line coach. He's been integral with Roy Lopez. Roy's

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Speaker 4: dad was a center in college, and I think beyond college.

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Speaker 4: So Roy has learned about playing nose tackle interior d

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Speaker 4: line from both aspects his entire life.

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Speaker 1: It's in his blood, Paul Hey.

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Speaker 4: of the best things we saw camp all year. It's

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Speaker 4: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 11: There has been a final decision made and staying for

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Speaker 11: the season. The people have spoken. So I started off

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Speaker 11: as a campstash. I just wanted to kind of switch

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Speaker 11: it up, you know, something new, and then it just

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Speaker 11: kind of hit. Honestly, all the guys loved it. Is

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Speaker 11: creating a lot of camaraderie out of good times, you know,

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Speaker 11: and it was funny actually, like a bunch of people

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Speaker 11: started messaging me about it, you know, really taking the

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Speaker 11: time out of their day to let me know that

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Speaker 11: they like the mustache. So I was just like, you

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Speaker 11: know what, you got to give the people what they want.

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Speaker 4: Well, did I not say in Denver late second half,

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Speaker 4: we started talking about the takeaways and I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: the best thing I've seen this preseason dot dot dot

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Speaker 4: other than the mustache on Will Hernandez is and then

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Speaker 4: I filled in the blank. I mean it is glorious.

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Speaker 4: It is splendicular. This and by the way, the music

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Speaker 4: here is titled Standoff at the Lost Motel. Well done

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Speaker 4: by our Jim Almahundro because he does look like a

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Speaker 4: Western gun, like he's out of tombstone. Will Hernandez with

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Speaker 4: the mustache our only free advice to Will, and I

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Speaker 4: do this when I'm not in his presence because he's

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Speaker 4: an extra large human is you know, he needs to

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Speaker 4: go clean shaven so he can better showcase the mustache.

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Speaker 4: You don't want the beer to detract from the glory

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Speaker 4: of the mustache.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right about that, Pali. But never forget Will

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Speaker 1: Hernandez is a team player, Pauli. You want to talk

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Speaker 1: about team over you, just look at his stash. He's

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Speaker 1: still good for the camaraderie of his teammates. That is,

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Speaker 1: that's definitely team over you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's some good stuff. Also out of practice this week,

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Speaker 4: if you might have seen it via social media from

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals accounts they had Sugar Shan O'Malley. You see

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Speaker 4: the UFC champion he was out there. That was good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see that. He was yucking it up

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Speaker 1: right there with Buddha Baker. I saw that for a minute.

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Speaker 1: So how do you pronounce his name? PAULI sorry about this,

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Speaker 1: but you know I am sixty one and savage.

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Speaker 4: He calls himself sugar Sean. All the kids know my

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Speaker 4: seventeen year old immediately sugar Shan O'Malley lives trains in

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Speaker 4: the West Valley, like twenty minutes from the stadium, so

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Speaker 4: he's adopted the Cardinals as his team. He's lived here

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Speaker 4: about the last decade or so. So yeah, and he

842
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Speaker 4: was fired up because you know, he gave Kyler Murray

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Speaker 4: his own UFC belt, so that was then he caught

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Speaker 4: some passes from Kyler out there, so uh yeah, that

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Speaker 4: was all. You know what I thought, and nobody asked

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Speaker 4: for my advice. I thought, you know what, they should

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Speaker 4: have had JG come out and throw them out of

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Speaker 4: practice because of fighting, right, UFC they should ad him through,

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Speaker 4: you know, or maybe bring in Big Mo for a

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Speaker 4: heavyweight battler.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, I love the fact I actually saw the

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Speaker 1: barbarian Dennis Gardak. Of course I saw him line up

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Speaker 1: over Sugar. Is that what you say, Sugar? Sean Paul

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Speaker 1: is exactly there up, line up and actually try to

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Speaker 1: jam him, and Sugar did a little yet, a little

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Speaker 1: something there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes he did. It was good. So hey, he's

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Speaker 4: he's put a lot of guys to sleep. Go watch

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Speaker 4: his highlight reel. Oh but you don't want to get

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Speaker 4: in the octagon, no doubt about that. All right, So

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Speaker 4: would you say the Cardinals as a team that physicality

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Speaker 4: is one of their traits. It's all part of Okay,

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Speaker 4: who are you? What are you going to be?

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Speaker 1: This year?

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Speaker 4: Every season is different And Jonathan Gannon was asked this week,

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Speaker 4: when are you going to know the true identity of

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Speaker 4: your team?

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Speaker 5: If you kind of look at the month of September,

869
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: there is a feeling out and a learning process about

870
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 5: your team because you got new people, whether you played

871
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 5: your starters or not, you know who's having these roles.

872
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Speaker 5: What does that look like? I don't think we'll know

873
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 5: our true identity for a little bit of time. With

874
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 5: saying that we got to do enough to put ourselves

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Speaker 5: in position to win those four games, you know, through

876
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: the first part of the season there, but there's a

877
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Speaker 5: growth in a learning that needs to continually happen as

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Speaker 5: you get going on in the season. You know, and

879
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 5: do I know who we are right now going to Buffalo.

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00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 5: I have a good idea, but I don't know for sure.

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Speaker 4: And you talk about this, Wolfy In fact, you've mentioned

882
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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick is maybe the all time best of this.

883
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: You need to be what you need to be to

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Speaker 4: beat your opponent that way, but you also need to

885
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 4: have your bread and butter, right And didn't we see

886
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: that down the stretch December and January last year where

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00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 4: the Cardinals finished the season three of the last four

888
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: games running for over two hundred yards in each game.

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Speaker 1: You nailed bully right there. Honestly, that is a truth.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I expect to see early on. Now. Now, listen,

891
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: you got to go out and kind of reinforce. I

892
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: think the Buffalo Bills are going to load up against

893
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals because the Cardinals were an elite rushing

894
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: team last year and I think they only got better

895
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: when you look at their depth chart offensively, I think

896
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: they only got better. I think they only got bigger

897
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: and more physical. And because of that, I think the

898
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: Bills are going to come out, especially Sean McDermott, a

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00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: defensive minded head coach. He's going to come out. He's

900
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: going to say, we got to stop these guys from

901
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: running the ball. Period. If we stop them from running

902
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: the ball now all of a sudden, we'll make them

903
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: one dimensional. And that's going to favor us. Well, that

904
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Speaker 1: means you got to come out and run the ball early,

905
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: maybe that first possession. But Paully, you can't be dogmatic

906
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: on it. You can't say we're just going to keep

907
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: running into the pile. If they're jamming up the box,

908
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: now that's where you've got to use play action to

909
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: throw the ball. It's the combination of those two things

910
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: that I think will make the Arizona Cardinals an elite

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00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: offense once again. And I say that with the id

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00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: in mind that last year, over the last four weeks

913
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: of the season, almost a quarter of the season, they

914
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: were the number one offense in the National Football League Poll.

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: Never forget that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, don't forget the Bills. They had to

917
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: cut Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde. Yes, you know they

918
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: had to cut tra Davious White, their best corner. I'm

919
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: real curious. They've also had a lot of injuries. What

920
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 4: does the Bill's secondary look like? So I don't doubt

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: what you're saying, but I don't know if that's not

922
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Speaker 4: necessarily advantage Cardinals. That's maybe the most intriguing thing to me.

923
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: I don't have any doubt that they're going to be

924
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: able to run the ball even against eight man boxes.

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00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: We saw last year teams will load up against the

926
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Speaker 4: Cardinals and then the second they would still wear them

927
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Speaker 4: down and run for a lot of yards. And we

928
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: know they were number two in yards per carry over

929
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: five yards of Carrie. I want to know, more than

930
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 4: anything else, what does an elevated pass game do for

931
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: this offense? What is Marvin Harrison junior, Michael Wilson in

932
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: year two? Yeah, Greg Dorsch and then Trey McBride, who

933
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: wasn't getting doubled every single snap? What does that do

934
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 4: for Kyler in the pass game?

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Speaker 1: No doubt ball, I mean, you're right on this thing.

936
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Speaker 1: The way you're thinking, I think logically is correct. But

937
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, once again, if you're a defensive coordinator, what

938
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Speaker 1: do you have to stop. That's also a Bill Belichick philosophy.

939
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna make an offense beat us with their B game,

940
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: not their A game. We're not gonna let you beat

941
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: us with your A game. We're gonna let you beat

942
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: us and make you beat us with your B game.

943
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: So if you're the Buffalo Bills and you're looking at

944
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, even with Marvin Harrison Junior, even with

945
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Trey McBride, even with Kyler Murray, you're saying to yourself,

946
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: we get to stop this team from running the ball

947
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: because if they're in a balanced offense, that only makes

948
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray better. It only opens up the playbook and

949
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: makes it even more dangerous. So they're going to come

950
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: out and to me, they're going to jam up that box.

951
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: We'll see.

952
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: Conversely, Josh Allen only has one receiver who's ever caught

953
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: a regular season pass from him, Khalil Shakir, who wasn't

954
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: even a feature guy all that much last year. So

955
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: I'm also real curious in Week one the Bills pass

956
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: game and whether it's in sync. What the Cardinals don't

957
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: need is this recent ESPN poll of anonymous players. Did

958
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 4: you see what they said they dubbed Josh Allen as

959
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 4: one of the most overrated players in the league.

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00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, did they have to publish that before the Cardinals? Right?

961
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: Don't make him mad? What is going on around here?

962
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: And you hear his reaction on Serious NFL Radio he said,

963
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: he said, you know what, I'm not really mad that

964
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 4: eleven players not in my team voted me that. He said, actually,

965
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: I think that's a term of endearment, right when other

966
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 4: players right say that about me? And said, what I

967
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: find frustrating is I want to be part of these

968
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: surveys too. Why can't I give my input? Where's my survey?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I know, And honestly, I thought that was

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Speaker 1: brilliant on his part. Paulie.

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Speaker 4: So with Josh Allen, and I'm just curious too, you know,

972
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Speaker 4: if he's not totally in sync with those receivers, because

973
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: did we not see it with Kyler Murray dropping in

974
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: mid season? No offseason he came in. It took him

975
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: a good month to get in sync with Cardinals targets.

976
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: And I wonder if we look back, if that'll be

977
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: to the Cardinals benefit opening with the Bills before Josh

978
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: Allen gets it in gear. Gets it in sync with

979
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 4: this receiver room.

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Speaker 1: But never forget Paulie. The Buffalo Bills can run the

981
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: ball too. Yeah. They were really really good at doing that,

982
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Speaker 1: no doubt.

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