WEBVTT - Episode 2: The Confession

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Hey, it's Jake here. I just wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a heads up that this episode contains a detailed

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<v Speaker 1>account of a hate crime, a murder previously on Deep Cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Peterson, you don't know us, but we're here. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you. Federal agents. Can we approach you?

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<v Speaker 2>And Craig just looked at us and said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he said something like, yeah, we heard rumors

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<v Speaker 3>about that, that someone said we did a homicide. But man,

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<v Speaker 3>now that's nothing to it. We didn't do any homicide.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bunch of junk.

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<v Speaker 2>You could feel the tension, but you can also feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he's about to say something, and then he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are Scott Duffy and Terry Mortimer in a

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<v Speaker 1>conference room at the FBI's offices in Wilmington, Delaware, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're sitting on the edge of their seats because across

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<v Speaker 1>the table from them is Craig Peterson, the electrician from

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont with the spiderweb tattoo. Now they suspect that Craig

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<v Speaker 1>was an accomplice to a murder. For months, Craig had

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<v Speaker 1>been playing at cool admitting to nothing. But now in

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<v Speaker 1>this conference room, Craig has promised to tell them everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a moment that I think of everything that

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<v Speaker 2>Terry and I had been through, had prayed through, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was the moment in time. This was it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like, this is the reason why you were

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<v Speaker 2>brought together.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind you, this moment, it wasn't just the result of

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<v Speaker 1>good luck. Two days prior, Scott and Terry had played

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<v Speaker 1>their best and last card. They had handed Craig a

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena to appear before a grand jury. They were hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that this would get him talking. It was a long shot, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth was, the Feds had very little on Craig, but

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<v Speaker 1>Craig he offered to tell them everything. Before he did, however,

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<v Speaker 1>he made a request.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I need to have assurances, and we said

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<v Speaker 2>what type of assurances? Well, you have a prosecutor on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you call the prosecutor? Absolutely, we can call the prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>But Greg, you gotta I can't just call a prosecutor

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<v Speaker 2>over here and waste his time. You gotta tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what is it we're asking the prosecutor to come for

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when he says I'm not the shooter, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Upon hearing this, Scott's partner, Terry, kind of sat up

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<v Speaker 1>in his chair.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm thinking myself, this dude is pretty savvy. Dude

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<v Speaker 3>thinking like attorneys talk about immunity, Federal agents talk about immunity,

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<v Speaker 3>not electricians from Earl and Tim Vermont get like, where

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<v Speaker 3>did you get that from? That's what he said, I

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<v Speaker 3>want immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Typically, giving someone immunity is not a quick or

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<v Speaker 1>easy task, especially in a situation like this where someone's

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<v Speaker 1>been murdered. Getting all the higher ups to sign off

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<v Speaker 1>can take days or longer. But Scott knew time was

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<v Speaker 1>of the essence. He needed to jump on this before

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<v Speaker 1>Craig changed his mind. Fortunately, he had a prosecutor on

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<v Speaker 1>st stand by.

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<v Speaker 2>Prosecutor dropped everything, ran to my office. We spoke with

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<v Speaker 2>him briefly saying it's so many words, he's confessed and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know where to go from here. And so

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<v Speaker 2>he said, so what you need is immunity?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I hearing that?

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<v Speaker 1>And Scott's like, yeah, that's exactly what Craig is asking for.

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<v Speaker 1>And the prosecutor is like, I think I can help

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. But first, the prosecutor had one crucial question

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to ask it directly to Craig. So

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<v Speaker 1>he hurries over to the conference room.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first thing the prosecutor asked him very first thing,

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<v Speaker 2>are you the shooter if it comes back at all

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<v Speaker 2>in any way that you pulled the trigger? Deals off

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<v Speaker 2>no immunity, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig tells them, no, I didn't pull the trigger, wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor seemed satisfied. He whips out a pen and

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<v Speaker 1>begins to write out a grant of federal immunity.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at Scott in one this is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>That never happens, but that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that, Craig tells us that he starts the

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<v Speaker 3>damn breaks up.

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<v Speaker 1>Until now, Scott and Terry have been going on a prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>quite literally, chasing down rumors and nothing more. But that

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<v Speaker 1>was about to change. A confession was at hand, one

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<v Speaker 1>that would validate Scott and Terry's hope that they were

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<v Speaker 1>uncovering something they were destined to find. Ultimately, this confession

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<v Speaker 1>would upend many people's lives. It would transform a whispered

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<v Speaker 1>rumor into a full blown murder investigation and maybe, just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it could lead them to the victim. I'm Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Calpern and this is a deep cover Season four The

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<v Speaker 1>Nameless Man, Episode two, The Confession. After the damn breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>Craig just starts talking, recounting what he could remember from

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<v Speaker 1>that night back in nineteen eighty nine when he and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Guybison were still in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he starts telling us how it went down.

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<v Speaker 3>That basically that he and Tommy decided one night to

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<v Speaker 3>go and find a black man, to kill that black

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<v Speaker 3>man so that they could get their spider web tattoos

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<v Speaker 3>as skinheads.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig tells them they borrowed his mother's car, a gray

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<v Speaker 1>Chevy Bretta. Craig drove, Tom was in the passenger seat.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd gotten their hands on a gun, a thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>caliber Revolver, and they started looking for a target. All

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<v Speaker 1>of this, by the way, and what I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you is based on Scott and Terry's recollections and

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<v Speaker 1>the report that they filed at the time, and also

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<v Speaker 1>from sworn testimony that Scott, Terry, and Craig later provided. Anyway, initially,

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<v Speaker 1>Craig and Tom drove through Wilmington, Delaware, where they lived.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it was very busy.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, there were just so many people out and

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<v Speaker 2>there would be no way that they would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot somebody and not have a witness around. So

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<v Speaker 2>they made the decision to leave Wilmington and traveled north.

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<v Speaker 1>They drove north on the Interstate until they reached Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Here they got off at the Broad Street exit. By

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<v Speaker 1>now it was late. Craig wasn't sure exactly how late,

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<v Speaker 1>but the streets were mostly empty. Craig said at one

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<v Speaker 1>point they stopped and stole a license plate to put

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<v Speaker 1>on his mom's car as an added measure of protection,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case someone witnessed what they were about to do.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, they passed a large wall and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they turned onto a one way street.

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<v Speaker 3>Craig's driving, and they drive down a very dark street,

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<v Speaker 3>and Tommy is in the passenger side, and he tells

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<v Speaker 3>Craig slowed down, slowed down.

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<v Speaker 1>Slow down, because up ahead they saw a pedestrian, a

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<v Speaker 1>lone black man, as Craig recounted it, the man turned

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<v Speaker 1>and started walking toward them.

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy pulled out a thirty eight caliber, leaned out the

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<v Speaker 3>window and shot him and exclaimed I got him right

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<v Speaker 3>between the eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>The way Craig remembered is the guy hit the ground

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<v Speaker 2>so hard.

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<v Speaker 4>That he had to be dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig said that even all these years later, he still

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<v Speaker 1>remembered the sound of that thud as the man fell

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<v Speaker 1>onto the pavement, and that was it. These two high

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<v Speaker 1>school kids, with their gun and their mom's car, sped

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<v Speaker 1>off into the night, back home to Delaware. So far,

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<v Speaker 1>this entire investigation had been based on a rumor, a

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<v Speaker 1>rumor that initially seemed like it might be impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>verify that two teenagers drove into a nearby city to

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<v Speaker 1>murder a complete stranger because of the color of his skin,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they commemorated this murder with a tattoo. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the kind of story that you didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in, because if it were true, what did that

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<v Speaker 1>say about us as human beings? About our capacity for

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<v Speaker 1>hate and cold bloodedness. In a way, the veracity of

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<v Speaker 1>this rumor was about more than just one murder. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a test, a light meter that would measure

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<v Speaker 1>just how dark the depths of humanity could be. It

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<v Speaker 1>all hinged on a single question. Could these kids really

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<v Speaker 1>have done this, And in a situation like this, you

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<v Speaker 1>almost have to hope, maybe even pray, that the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is no, because then the world isn't so bad, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the answer is yes, they really did this, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then the depths are darker than most of us would

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<v Speaker 1>care to admit. As Craig recounted the details of the

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<v Speaker 1>murder in that FBI conference room, Scott listened intently. If

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<v Speaker 1>you recall, Scott had trained to become a priest back then,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people would notice his priest's collar and just start talking,

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<v Speaker 1>sharing their darkest secrets.

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<v Speaker 4>So Scott he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was comfortable in this role as the confessor. He knew

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<v Speaker 1>how to listen, how to watch, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he did as Craig spoke.

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<v Speaker 2>And when when you watch somebody tell the story, you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell that they are just reliving it, that they

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<v Speaker 2>were there. It was just amazing to watch, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm doing, is watching him.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig's confession raised so many questions for Scott and Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>like why would Craig, the steadfast sidekick, turn on his

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<v Speaker 1>old friend now, because in the past Craig had been

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<v Speaker 1>very loyal, Like a few years back, Craig had tried

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<v Speaker 1>to protect Tom from the authorities by storing some weapons

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<v Speaker 1>for him, weapons that Tom wasn't supposed to have. Craig

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<v Speaker 1>paid for this, did a few years in prison in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe he was willing to talk now just to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a repeat of that. Craig got out of federal

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<v Speaker 1>prison in nineteen ninety nine. A few years later he

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<v Speaker 1>moved north to Vermont, to that house in the mountains

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<v Speaker 1>with the dogs and the floodlights. Bottom line, it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like Craig had made a decision to escape his old

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<v Speaker 1>life and maybe to escape Tom too, I should mention.

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<v Speaker 1>We reached out to both Craig and Tom for this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Craig declined an interview. We never heard back from Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what we can say about Tom. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a long and well documented history of violence. As a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been convicted of reckless endangerment after he shot a

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<v Speaker 1>gun at a moving car full of people. Police records

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<v Speaker 1>from the time confirmed that Tom had an arsenal of weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>including a billy club, two blackjacks, two sets of brass knuckles,

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<v Speaker 1>and a mess of knives. To put it plainly, Tom

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like the kind of friend that you might not

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<v Speaker 1>want to anger by turning on him.

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<v Speaker 2>We believed that a real danger existed. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>very real potential of danger against Craig. People will go

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<v Speaker 2>to great lengths to protect their self interests, but.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point there was no turning back for Craig. More,

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<v Speaker 1>after the break, Scott and Terry now had a confession,

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<v Speaker 1>which under normal circumstances would be a very big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially a game changer, and in some ways the confession

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<v Speaker 1>was very promising. Craig were called some details, like the

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<v Speaker 1>moment of the actual shooting, vividly in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>might be very persuasive for a jury. The problem was

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<v Speaker 1>the alleged murder took place more than seventeen years prior,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was so much that Craig did not remember.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, he couldn't tell the FEDS where exactly this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't provide the name of a street or intersection

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<v Speaker 1>or park, nor could he tell them exactly when this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Could not offer a day, or a week or even

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<v Speaker 1>a month. Most vexing of all, Craig had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>who the victim was, and this right here underscored the

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<v Speaker 1>central problem that Scott and Terry had been facing from

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning. Simply put, they didn't have a body.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to solve the murder of an unknown man,

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<v Speaker 1>and without knowing who he was, they couldn't do much

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<v Speaker 1>of anything. But Scott remained determined.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to do our job, and we have to

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<v Speaker 2>find out who did they kill. If if possible, how

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do that? It then felt like a mandate,

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<v Speaker 2>like Okay, we're We're in this.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds awfully confident. But both Scott and Terry told

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<v Speaker 1>me that they felt on some level like they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a needle in a haystack. They both

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<v Speaker 1>used that exact phrase, which raises the question, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you find a needle in a haystack? Well, in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>you start by sorting through all the pieces of hay right.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, you create a finite pool of possibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the finite the things Craig knew

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<v Speaker 1>or claimed to know with some certainty. Craig knew the

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<v Speaker 1>murder took place sometime around the spring of nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>He remembered this in part because he recalled going to

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<v Speaker 1>senior prom not long after the murder took place. So

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<v Speaker 1>the agents had a year nineteen eighty nine, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a city, Philadelphia, and for whatever it was worth,

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<v Speaker 1>Craig had mentioned a one way street and a dark

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<v Speaker 1>colored wall. According to police accounts, there were four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy three murders in Philadelphia that year. So in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those murder victims was their nameless man.

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<v Speaker 4>But which one.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out, our federal agents they had an ace up

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<v Speaker 1>their sleeve. Scott knew someone, someone he believed could really

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<v Speaker 1>help them, a detective who worked in the homicide unit

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philadelphia Police Department, a veteran investigator named Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Lubiski went by LUBI for short. Scott, give me a

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<v Speaker 1>very vivid picture of what Luby looked like.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a large physical stature.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you hear a bear, you think of a bear,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know scary or cuddly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, bear has many different.

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<v Speaker 2>Views depending on who you ask, right, but nobody will

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<v Speaker 2>ever deny the fact that a bear is big.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't argue with Scott on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>When you saw him, you perked up and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not somebody to fool around with.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently Luby also had this other aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the face of someone who is just extremely caring.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you just looked at him, you knew immediately this

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<v Speaker 2>is somebody who will do anything to help you. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was a multifaceted bear, multifaceted cuddly, but he could

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<v Speaker 2>turn grizzly if he needed to. Scott's hope was that

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<v Speaker 2>his old friend, Luby, the multifaceted Bear, could now help

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<v Speaker 2>them find the victim.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Hey, is this Louby. It's Louby, Louby.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Jake. Is this still a good time to

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<v Speaker 6>talk to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's good time.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me a while to track Luby down. He's

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<v Speaker 1>retired now. When we spoke, he remembered the case right away.

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<v Speaker 5>They had these details, but they didn't actually have a

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<v Speaker 5>body to go with it.

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<v Speaker 6>How unusual is that to have someone say, hey, we

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<v Speaker 6>we we're pretty certain there's a murder. We have a confession.

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<v Speaker 6>We just we got no body.

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<v Speaker 5>That's rather unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott had passed along a short list of facts to

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<v Speaker 1>Luby to help him with his task. They included the

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<v Speaker 1>following one. The area where Craig remembered driving, two the

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<v Speaker 1>type of weapon that was used, Three the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the wound a single shot to the head for the

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<v Speaker 1>race of the victim, and five a general timeframe for

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<v Speaker 1>when this happened, the spring of nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 6>How optimistic were you that you were going to be

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<v Speaker 6>able to get them what they needed to solve this.

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<v Speaker 5>I was actually very optimistic because we keep pretty good

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<v Speaker 5>records on our dead bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>For Scott and Terry, this was a search for a

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<v Speaker 1>needle in a haystack. But Louby was an insider who

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<v Speaker 1>knew how things worked in Philly and knew exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>to look. As far as the records go. The authorities

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<v Speaker 1>believed this murder case would have been marked as unsolved

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<v Speaker 1>it happened back in nineteen eighty nine, and Luby was

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<v Speaker 1>getting this request seventeen years later in the spring of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 6>So what happens with a case when it goes unsolved.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's space with the assigned detective and if he

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<v Speaker 5>gets a chance, he goes out and works on it

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<v Speaker 5>in between things. If he doesn't, it just lays there

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<v Speaker 5>becomes cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, the file just sits there in a file cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>in the homicide department.

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<v Speaker 5>Homicides just want one big room, and there's file cabinets

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<v Speaker 5>all along the walls, and in those file cabinets already

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<v Speaker 5>open cases and then they move from in the storage.

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<v Speaker 1>Luby told me that typically after a few years, the

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<v Speaker 1>unsolved case files are sent to the city's storage facility,

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<v Speaker 1>a big ten story building. The homicide files are kept

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<v Speaker 1>down in the basement.

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<v Speaker 5>And when that happens, he assigned detectives. He no longer

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's a bit of a problem for him to

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<v Speaker 5>get to his case file now.

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<v Speaker 6>So is it kind of a little bit of out

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<v Speaker 6>of sight, out of mind.

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<v Speaker 5>And basically once it goes into storage, like the supervisor

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't bother anymore to get anything done on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like in limbo, as far as I could tell,

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<v Speaker 1>these cold cases kept down in the basement, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the messages at the very bottom of your inbox

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<v Speaker 1>that slowly received from your consciousness and eventually get moved

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<v Speaker 1>into some folder that you'll most likely never look at again.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Lubi got the call from Scott and Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have the actual case files from nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at his fingertips. What he had was a loosely

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<v Speaker 1>finder an index of all the murders from the past.

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<v Speaker 1>This index was a collection of so called summary that's.

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<v Speaker 5>A single page. It's got the deceased name, cause death.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what the outcome is, it's still open.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to that nature, Louby searches through these summary sheets

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<v Speaker 1>and narrows the possibilities down to unsolved murders that occurred

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<v Speaker 1>around the spring anywhere from January through May. There were

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven of them. Then he weeded out all the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that didn't match up with the details that Scott

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<v Speaker 1>had given him. In the end, Louby was left with

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<v Speaker 1>just one case, an unsolved murder from April sixteenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine, of a thirty three year old black man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was killed by a single thirty eight caliber bullet

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<v Speaker 1>to the head. This happened in North Philadelphia on a

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<v Speaker 1>one way street, just one block away from an imposing

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<v Speaker 1>stone wall. Louby made arrangements to get the entire case

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<v Speaker 1>file pulled out of storage unearthed from that basement, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he reached back out to Scott. Louby facts the

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<v Speaker 1>summary sheet directly over to the FBI's offices in Wilmington, Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an efficient bit of detective work. He'd done

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<v Speaker 1>all of this and roughly twenty four hours. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine Scott's reaction when, just a day after getting

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<v Speaker 1>Craig's confession of facts arrives from Louby and Scott, he

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<v Speaker 1>just holds it in his hands and stares at it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, feeling that this is it, seeing the name and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the the specifics of the crime, having a location,

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<v Speaker 2>a street. I don't even think I put it down.

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<v Speaker 4>It was this is it?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>How could you be so certain?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like everything that Craig told us fit

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<v Speaker 2>this very crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And so much of it did seem to fit, including

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<v Speaker 1>the time frame, the one way street, the proximity of

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, the caliber of the bullet, the single shot

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<v Speaker 1>to the head. The motive noted on the facts was

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<v Speaker 1>one word, drugs. Objectively, at this point you could not

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<v Speaker 1>say it was a slam dunk. There was no DNA match.

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<v Speaker 1>No one had found a murder weapon and matched it

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<v Speaker 1>to a bullet from the scene of the crime. None

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But even so, Scott remembers turning to his

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<v Speaker 1>partner Terry and saying.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a name. We have a fic. Terry, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is why we're here. We believe this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is who we've been pursuing. That was pretty powerful

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<v Speaker 2>to us.

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<v Speaker 1>At long last they had a name. It was right

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<v Speaker 1>there on the facts plane to see, printed out in

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<v Speaker 1>smudgy letters, Aron Would. They strongly believed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>the victim. This was a huge moment in their investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet it could still amount to nothing. Identifying a

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<v Speaker 1>potential victim did not guarantee a conviction or even guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>that there'd be a trial. Now, the question was would

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<v Speaker 1>there be enough evidence to bring a case and convince

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<v Speaker 1>a jury that this is what happened all those years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Terry and I said, it may be that this does

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<v Speaker 2>not ever go to a court. There may be nothing

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<v Speaker 2>that we can do or Philadelphia can do, even with

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<v Speaker 2>Craig's cooperation, that this is ever going to see the

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<v Speaker 2>inside of a court, and letting Craig know that this

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<v Speaker 2>all may be.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to give.

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<v Speaker 2>Aron Wood's family some sense of some sense of.

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<v Speaker 1>Understanding, but a kind of terrible understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, definitely I just believe having no name, having

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<v Speaker 2>no understanding of how your loved one's life came to

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<v Speaker 2>an end, who did it and for what purpose? I

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<v Speaker 2>think can drive you mad.

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<v Speaker 1>As investigators would soon learn, Iran Wood had a family,

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<v Speaker 1>including a mother and two younger brothers. For seventeen years,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd been searching for answers about how and why he died.

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<v Speaker 1>The last chapter of Iran's life was like a story

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<v Speaker 1>that stopped abruptly mid page. No explanation, no closure. There

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<v Speaker 1>have been very little to hold on to, but all

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<v Speaker 1>of that was about to change.

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<v Speaker 4>Next time. On Deep Cover. Everybody liked him.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why we was baffled, like, Oh, somebody shot a run,

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<v Speaker 7>shot a run. You can't nah, no way, And I

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<v Speaker 7>guess that's what pluthers the most in the beginning couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>figure it out.

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