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Speaker 1: One medieval theory suggested the fules were the transmogrified forms

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Speaker 1: the city. Good morning, degenerate anglers. Welcome to Bent the

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Speaker 1: Fishing podcast that heckles rent a cops but respects the

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Speaker 1: real cops. I'm Joe Surmelli Miles Nulty, and even though

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Speaker 1: I throw it on fishing inc I hope this lesson

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Speaker 1: will indeed, all right, So steel head. And and just

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Speaker 1: salmon that all die, but the majority of steel head

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Speaker 1: never make it back to the ocean. Historically, like sev

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Speaker 1: of fish used to make it all the way back

427
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Speaker 1: to the salt depending on where in the world they were,

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Speaker 1: but now with the dams and habitat degradation everything else,

429
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Speaker 1: that numbers more like one but that numbers even lower

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Speaker 1: for male steel head. Whereas female steel head will only

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Speaker 1: drop eggs once, some male steel head will just keep

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Speaker 1: on fertilizing until they're so utterly depleted that they can't

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Speaker 1: make it back. See. Male steel head are mostly unnecessary

434
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Speaker 1: because one male can fertilize the eggs of many different females,

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Speaker 1: and because resident male rainbow trout can also fertilize those

436
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Speaker 1: eggs just as effectively as male steel head that migrated.

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Speaker 1: Steelhead populations just don't need very many males to maintain

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Speaker 1: healthy numbers or D all of the above. All right,

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Speaker 1: So your options about why there are more females and

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Speaker 1: males and steel head populations is A. Males are fat

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Speaker 1: and lazy. B males are too enthusiastic about spawning, see

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Speaker 1: males are mostly unnecessary. Or D. All of the above.

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Speaker 1: There's truth and all of those. Um. Okay, So let

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Speaker 1: me get this straight. A they're lazy. Hey, they're lazy.

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Speaker 1: They don't even bother migrating. Be there too enthusiastic about spawning,

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00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: so they essentially kill themselves. See they're not that necessarily

447
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: in population anyway, so natural selection doesn't really need them.

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00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: Or D. All the things are true. My gut is

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Speaker 1: saying that D because there is truth in every every

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Speaker 1: one of those. Um. Like you said, rainbow trout will

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Speaker 1: fertilize reds for females. Um, I'm gonna go with D.

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Speaker 1: You are correct. All those things are true. Yes, let

453
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Speaker 1: me let me wipe the sweat from my forehead. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Every single one of those is true, and all of

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Speaker 1: those are reasons why we have more migratory females than males.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you got your first question right. You

457
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Speaker 1: should maybe relax a little bit here, you go irish

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Speaker 1: up that coffee. Uh okay. So you you are from Montana,

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Speaker 1: I know this, and as a Montana and you know

460
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Speaker 1: how many just weird little creeks there are everywhere, right,

461
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: And and there are some river and creek names that

462
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: are just like it's like everyone just used the same

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Speaker 1: one over and over there and they couldn't get creative

464
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Speaker 1: about it. Right. I once counted the number of Willow

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Speaker 1: creeks in Montana, and I now can't remember the exact number,

466
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Speaker 1: but it was over twenty of bear creeks and rock Creek,

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Speaker 1: Rock Creek. We got them in Pennsylvania, everywhere, It's true.

468
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Speaker 1: But then there are those ones that go the other direction. Right.

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Speaker 1: They're just so unique and weird that you can't forget

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Speaker 1: the names, and you know there's got to be a

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Speaker 1: story behind them, but you usually can't figure it out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read you a list of river and

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Speaker 1: creek names, and you tell me which one is not

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Speaker 1: an actual creek somewhere in the world. All right? So

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Speaker 1: is it in the world? Yes? So is it a

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Speaker 1: pick a tooth creek? Be Murdering Hut Creek, see Peckerwood Creek,

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Speaker 1: d Dwarfs kill Creek or e Rivie de ha ha.

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Speaker 1: You want to hear him again? Impossible? This is impossible. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's I feel like the most ridiculous one has to

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Speaker 1: exist because how would you? It's reverse psychology essentially on

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Speaker 1: the question. That's a good strategy. I agree with that strategy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I need to hear him again. Is it a pick

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Speaker 1: a tooth creek, be Murdering Hut Creek, see Peckerwood Creek,

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Speaker 1: d dwarfs Kill Creek or e Rivie de ha ha, whoever, whoever?

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Speaker 1: If that, if that truly does exist, they deserve a

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Speaker 1: metal um. I. I'm going to have to go with

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the more generic ones in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just pick one because I can't even remember

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Speaker 1: the first two. We'll go with. If she doesn't get it,

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Speaker 1: let me take a shot. What was c again? See

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Speaker 1: is Peckerwood Creek? I feel like that doesn't exist? And

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Speaker 1: then D was dwarfs Kill Creek. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: murder Hut Murdering Hut Creek. B Joe, I think the

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00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: fake one is Peckerwood Creek. God, I wish that were true.

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00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna win no matter what, because I actually couldn't

496
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: come up with a fake name nearly as good as

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Speaker 1: any of the real ones. They're all real, so you win.

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Speaker 1: No matter what you peck on this one, there is

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Speaker 1: no answer. I just had too much fun finding ridiculous

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Speaker 1: creek names and putting him in there. Do you know

501
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: where these places where they there are? Some of them

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Speaker 1: are in uh so. The last one was in French Canadia,

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Speaker 1: and know that a couple of them were Australian. One

504
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Speaker 1: was in Pennsylvania. I believe, I can't exactly remember. At

505
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: this point, I should have written all that down, but

506
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just had too much fun coming up

507
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: with those titles. But see, I figured they could all

508
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: be real too. But I figured, if he's gonna stick

509
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Speaker 1: one in, he's just gonna throw out pecker. Would I

510
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: wish I had? I think that's a little our trivia.

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Speaker 1: Our trivia segment is based on trust. Okay, the trade, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you won, you can't lose. This is a not lose

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Speaker 1: not there's no way you can lose it. This one.

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00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: You got them both, you got full credit. Okay, Well, then,

515
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: since when did trivia become teball where we all get

516
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: a trophy? Today? When I was driving. Thanks for letting

517
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: us just be manipulative and mess with your head, Ginsley.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you. That was bullshit. Come on,

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00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: you cannot do that. It's the whole world God crazy

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00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: about the only one right here gets a gun about

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Speaker 1: the roll. You cannot do that going forward, I forbid it.

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00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: I can, and I did. When you do trivia, you

523
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: can write whatever questions you want. Is our show, and

524
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Speaker 1: we control the laws of reality in this tiny, tiny

525
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: little universe of ours. Except in one segment, where Fill

526
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: the engineer is all knowing, all powerful, and all deciding.

527
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: It's now time for us to genuflict and grovel at

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Speaker 1: his heels in the hopes that we are the shows.

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Speaker 1: In one it's time for fish news. Fish news. That

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Speaker 1: escalated quickly, so before we kick off fish news, which,

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Speaker 1: as a reminder, is a competition, Miles and I don't

532
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: know which news stories the other feller has dredged up, uh,

533
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: and a winner is declared by the infallible audio engineer

534
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: of ours Phil at the end, we do like to

535
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: use this space to give a and shout out and

536
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: such one appropriate time to time. And I must say

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00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: at Miles, I don't I don't know if you've been

538
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: seeing this, but I've gotten quite a few notes about

539
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: bushy figurines since your aushy story a few weeks. You've

540
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: got some stuff. The story seems to have resonated. It

541
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: appears that the folks are into that one. Yeah, and

542
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: almost to the point where I feel like there's a

543
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: lot more people actually fishing bushies out there than we

544
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: even realized when when you broke the story. I would agree.

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00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: So I just just wanted to point out that that

546
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: that you guys love bushies. Apparently. In fact, listener Jeff

547
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: Caldwell even wrote in to tell me that there are

548
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Misfits bushes available because apparently true. No, well, actually I

549
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: got all excited right because I'm a huge Misfits fan,

550
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: thinking they'd go great next to my Misfits bobble heads

551
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: and um custom Commission Danzig bust I have carved out

552
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: of imported Italian marble. But actually I looked it up

553
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: and that's that's not correct, Jeff. There are no Misfits

554
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: bushies that I could find. Um, So if you know

555
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: something I don't and they do exist, as please send

556
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: me the link. But quick side note, and my miles

557
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: I told you about this, I just have to share it.

558
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: A good friend of mine, Mick Trump, and recently sent

559
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: me a custom Misfits popper popper head with the skull. Yeah,

560
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: you showed me those photos that looks amazing. I put

561
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: them on Instagram, and freaking Doyle Wolfgang von Frankenstein, the

562
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: guitar player of the Misfits, shared my fly photo in

563
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: his Instagram stories. So I went from last year ever

564
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: to best year ever, just like that with one share.

565
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: So how about that? We've peaked me and Doyle. Uh So,

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00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: while while I'm officially having a good year, now, I'll

567
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: jump in and say, not long ago, the police and

568
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: wearing Massachusetts were having a particularly bad day, and I

569
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: love the story of their torment. So we'll kick it

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00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: off here. Here's one from the New York Times headline,

571
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: Massachusetts town begs residents to stop calling about fish. Okay,

572
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: which doesn't That doesn't tell you the good It's a

573
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: good headline, but it's it doesn't really doesn't really sell

574
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: it yet. So I'll read a little bit. I'll read

575
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: a little bit here. Uh. Some of the calls reported

576
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: an injured seal. Others said they had seen the shark Still,

577
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: others implored officials to help what appeared to be a

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00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: stranded fish. By early afternoon Monday, dozens of people had

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Speaker 1: called emergency officials and wear them on the southeast coast

580
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: of Massachusetts. The town's department dispatched two officers to investigate.

581
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: So what did they find? Well, it says they soon

582
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: discovered that the odd looking creature lulling in a cove

583
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: off Buzzard's Bay was no cause for alarm. It was

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00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: an ocean sunfish, an enormous blob like creature that eats jellyfish,

585
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: has a dorsal fin that, to the untrained I can

586
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: resemble that of a shark. Now, you grew up in Hawaii, right,

587
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: so probably you know them as mola mola. Correct? Right so?

588
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: And frankly, all the off shore dudes I run with

589
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: we always called amla's when we saw them. Um, but yeah,

590
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: it's cool, Yeah, I don't know. We we also say

591
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: mahi more even though dolphin is more the East coast thing.

592
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: I just gravitate to the Pacific terms. Apparently, me and

593
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: my friends ocean sunfish, mola mola Okay, same thing. But see,

594
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: the calls did not stop, and the town ended up

595
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: getting so frustrated that they had to issue a plea

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00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: on their Facebook page begging people to stop calling, adding

597
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: in the post, it is not not in all caps

598
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: stranded or suffering. The sunfish is fine, fine in all caps,

599
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: then following that in all caps all the way through.

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Speaker 1: Please stop calling the police department about the sunfish. And

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00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: there's a there's a there's a great quote in here

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00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: from Whereham's harbormaster Gary Buckminster that reads, we get it,

603
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: he added, referring to the concern residents had expressed. But

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Speaker 1: one one isn't a good avenue to report fish that

605
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: are swimming around. That's what I was thinking this whole time,

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: the police, Like that's anybody who's I mean, I get

607
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: not being familiar with house a particular critter reacts or

608
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, behaves and and expressing concern. I can I

609
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: can get myself there. But then that your first thought

610
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: as well, I better call the cops, Like you don't

611
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: understand the function of the police department at all. If

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00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: that's what you did, and not even the local number

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00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: of the police, We're just gonna go. We're just gonna

614
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: go straight to UH one. But now here's why I'm surprised, right,

615
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: And this story even kind of echoes my surprise later on.

616
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: And you might remember this. Back in two thousand fifteen,

617
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: two schmos fishing on a boat up and mass encountered

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00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a giant sunfish, a giant mola, and a video this encounter,

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Speaker 1: and it went super mega viral because they were so

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Speaker 1: confused about what they were seeing. Uh, this is the

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: infamous baby whale video. Right. So here's a little mash

622
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: up we put together as a refresher. It's a baby whale. Man,

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00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: we gotta call the aquarium of something to it. You

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00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: want to try to pull it in, Let's look it,

625
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: j J. We could get some big money for that.

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: If it's a fish fight. Come on, let's plow up

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00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: next to that ship. Role, let's help it. Uh. And

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00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: And as we now know, it was not a baby whale. Ja.

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Speaker 1: Every time I hear that, I cannot help but crack

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00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: up like it's it's old news. Now. It's been around

631
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: for years, but that one still makes me laugh. That

632
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: video never gets old. So it was not a baby whale,

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Speaker 1: nor as they suggested, a flounder, nor as they later suggested,

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Speaker 1: a tuna. And it was not in distress nor valuable.

635
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: You'd actually have gotten no money for it and possibly

636
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: find had you brought it back to the dock. But

637
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I kind of thought the world saw this video right like.

638
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: It ended up on news channels all over And even

639
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: if the world hasn't seen this video, hasn't everyone in

640
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: coastal Massachusetts seen it? You know? I would think apparently not.

641
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: But I mean, hell, J and Companies spent a full

642
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: seven minutes essentially answering all the questions and ruling out

643
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: all the possibilities that people were flooding the local Wear

644
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: and p D with last week. It would have been

645
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: so good of the Wear and p D could have

646
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: put together like a similar mash up like what what

647
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: you did and just played that out to people. I

648
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: think that would have been a better response. Actually, I

649
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: just I just I'm shocked that there's that you know

650
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: that I don't know. I will say this though, I

651
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: bumped into tons and tons of molas off shore over

652
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: the year, and they are one freakishly bizarre fish. They're

653
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: very weird one in person, they're weird looking. Yeah, and

654
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: I think this is what happens most of the time

655
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: you see him way off shore, But every once in

656
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: a while they just sort of ride the wrong current

657
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: or whatever and they end up real tight to the beach.

658
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: But they look like an evolutionary accident, like someone was like, whoops,

659
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: screw that. We'll just let it. Oh, we'll do better

660
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: when we start working on the billfish, you know. And

661
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: they're and they're just they're so clumsy and goofy, and

662
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: I've always known what they were, but man, like, those

663
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: big old things they got have given me and many

664
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: a shark crew heart palpitations because they come up at

665
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: a distance, way out there in your slick and you're like, oh, ship,

666
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: but it's just it's just old dope, you know, swimming

667
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: and hoovering pieces of bunk er chum, and you feel

668
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: bad for him. I'm like, I feel bad for you.

669
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: You're you're weird. This is your life. But anyway, there

670
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: you go. It's a sunfish. Jay. Stop calling the police.

671
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: They're busy arresting your friends for throwing hands in the

672
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: parking lot at the Cumberland Farms. Oh. I love that story,

673
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: and it teas It teased me up nicely because we're

674
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: we're on the subject of evolutionary accidents, and I'm just

675
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: gonna run with that one. And I'll look at I'm

676
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: kind of stepping into a little bit of Joe territory here,

677
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't let this one go, all right.

678
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, man, but when I

679
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: hear Isle of White, I immediately think of Jimi Hendrix.

680
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: I think of the posthumus album that was recorded when

681
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: he played at the Island of White Festival just weeks

682
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: before his death. And I gotta say that's possibly one

683
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: of the best versions of machine Gun ever laid down,

684
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: hands down. But I have to go listen to that now,

685
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: like it's been years. It's good. It's good. But this

686
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: next story like gives me just a little bit of

687
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: a slight, slightly new association with the island that sits

688
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: just south of the UK and the English Channel. British

689
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: angler Jason Gillespie was fishing just off the Isle of

690
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: White when he caught something unprecedented, a completely white tope shark. Now,

691
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I gotta admit, I've never heard of a tope shark before.

692
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with these? Uh? No, is the short answer.

693
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard that name before. Unlike last

694
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: week we mentioned a gulper shark. Like, I don't know

695
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: what the hell, but I feel like I have heard

696
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: of tope shark. It's a new one on me there.

697
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what it looked like or anything,

698
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: but they're also called school sharks snapper sharks, and this

699
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: one kind of fits soup finn sharks, which pretty well

700
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: explains why they are critically endangered. Delicious tope sharks max

701
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: out at about seven feet in length, and they're normally

702
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: bluish gray on their backs and flanks and white on

703
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: their bellies, you know, just like most sharks. The specimen

704
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: that Gillespie landed, however, or Gillespie excuse me, was a

705
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: mature adult tope shark, completely bone white. And if you

706
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: look up pictures of this thing, it's it's it's weird

707
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: looking it. It looks a little like those creepy goblin

708
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: sharks that leave live in like the super deep oceans.

709
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: Not not the normal tope sharks, but this version of

710
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: it has like a little bit of the goblin shark

711
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: thing going on. Gillespie was quoted as saying, I've been

712
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: fishing for thirty years and I've never seen anything like that.

713
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: It's the fish of a lifetime one in a million.

714
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: He wanted to say that a friend of his claimed

715
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: to have caught one before, but he didn't think that

716
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: albino sharks could survive into adulthood. He told the British

717
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: news agency s w N S quote. I think generally

718
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: if they lose their color, they struggled to survive because

719
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: they don't have the same camouflage and they can't hunt

720
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: as effectively and they get picked off by predators. Biologists agree,

721
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: which the last beyond this point, which is why they

722
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: hypothesize that the shark isn't an albino but instead lucistic.

723
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: In other words, it wasn't born without pigment, but lost

724
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: its pigment throughout its life. And for reference, Joe, I'll

725
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: use one of your personal icons here, I think Michael Jackson.

726
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. And while that story is interesting and it's

727
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: been widely reported, I actually have a follow up for

728
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: it that that popped up after I had finished that one,

729
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: and it's totally absurd. Uh. It's been a big week

730
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: in albio shark news apparently. Um. Before I dig into

731
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: this one, I have to mention that I can't confirm

732
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: the veracity of what I'm about to say. It comes

733
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: from the Sun, which isn't exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity,

734
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: but still, I just I had to do it. They

735
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: report that an Indonesian vessel caught a quote larger shark

736
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: in a net off the coast of Malaku Province into Asia.

737
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: They do not identify what kind of shark it was,

738
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: because that's not the point of the story. The point

739
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: of the story is what they found inside of the

740
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: larger shark, an albino cyclops shark fetus. Yes, you you

741
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: heard that right. It's a baby shark with fully formed

742
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: fins and body structure without any pigmentation, and one crazy

743
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: ass giant eyeball right above its mouth. Now, this could

744
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: be about as real as the National Inquirer scoop on

745
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: undead Elvis and JFK Jr. Secretly hanging out at Trump rallies.

746
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: But I feel like I just forget bat Boy. Do

747
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: not forget bad Boy. Sorry about bat Boys there too,

748
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: but I felt like I like, I came across it

749
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: and I just had to include it since I apparently

750
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: decided to cover the freakish shark beat this week, and man,

751
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: it's it's creepy looking. Well, there was also something because

752
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: I thought about it for a hot second and I

753
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: didn't do it. There was also like a two headed

754
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: shark something caught recently. I must have I would have

755
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: covered as weird weird things. Maybe the sharks heard the

756
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, they heard that they're on the list for

757
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: for the COVID vaccine, and they're like, we're gonna We're

758
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: freaking out, man. I think that the amount of stress

759
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: that they're experiencing is causing some serious deformities. I don't know. Well,

760
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: the first one, though, the tope shark, is still the

761
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: most interesting to me, And I mean I don't know. Obviously,

762
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: anything that's an albino, regardless of species, we all know

763
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: has a lesser chance of survival, right because it's just

764
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: like sticks out like a sore thumb. But yeah, just

765
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: it's not like it never happens. You and I have

766
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: both seen the albino sailfish in the albino marlin, so

767
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: that it makes you wonder if it was so rare

768
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: for them to reach adulthood, as science is saying, being

769
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: stark white like that, were they or did they have

770
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson thing too? This is This is a

771
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: good question. Uh, it might be lucistic, it might be

772
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: albutism I think that just again, I'm not going to

773
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: claim expertise here, but I think just in apparently the

774
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: way that that shark lives, it's it's highly migratory and

775
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: lives in the open ocean. So I think that that

776
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: would be It's not like it's an ambush predator. It's

777
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: like get hide anywhere. This thing lives in open ocean,

778
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: and I think an albino shark migrating across massive open

779
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: ocean is probably not going to do very well for

780
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: very long. Yeah, it's just just my theory. Is it

781
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: a deep dwelling shark too? You know, deep water species?

782
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Because I have to imagine after a certain point, right,

783
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I should actually know the math of exactly how deep.

784
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it would make no difference if you were

785
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: an albino anymore. Well, that's why the goblin shark is

786
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: is totally like has no pigment. They can pull that

787
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: off because there's no light down there. But I don't

788
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: think it's not that deep a dweller. Well, they live

789
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: right next to one of those cookie cutter sharks. They're

790
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: scary too. There's so much scary ship down there. Talk

791
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: about it more. But I have one more comment, just

792
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: because it's just it just popped into my head about

793
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: the weird cyclops shark. You know, these stories pop up

794
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: time to time about the sharks with two heads and

795
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: this and that. Do you remember one years ago that

796
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: was trout with two mouths? I missed that trout. I

797
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: missed that one. And you know, like when you're a

798
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: kid and you you slice underneath the jaw and then

799
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: stick your finger in there and like pull the tongue

800
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: out and the guts out, like if you're cleaning a

801
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: trout to put on a campfire. Every which way I

802
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: look at that photo. All it looked to me is

803
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: like somebody slit that and separated it and opened that

804
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: little tongue tab below the chin. But it was all

805
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: over the news as a as a two mouthed, two

806
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: mouth trout. This one could be just as real as that.

807
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: For the record, I'm not claiming that this is real.

808
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: It looks really creepy and it also looks like it

809
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: could be completely fake. But I just had to throw

810
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: it in there. Every time I see a two headed,

811
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: two arms somehow, I'm always skeptical of it. Um. You know,

812
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: I just I just don't take it at face value

813
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: that it's real. But let me tell you what is real,

814
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: the mullet toss. You know what the mullet tosses. Oh

815
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: my gosh, I have so many theories on this, but

816
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take up the time making up

817
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: stupid stupid ship. What do you got? Well, that's fine

818
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: because don't think too hard because it's pretty much exactly

819
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: what it sounds like. Okay, So this is some exciting

820
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: news out of Orange Beach, Alabama from Fox dot com

821
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: headline fish will fly in rescheduled Gulf Coast event mullet toss.

822
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: It sounds yes, Well I have no I have never

823
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: attended this event. I have been aware of it, um,

824
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: And it's a big deal down on the Florida Alabama border.

825
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: And it happens every year at the Florabama Lounge, which

826
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: is a well known and popular drinking establishment slash roadhouse. Um.

827
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: And this is right from the story. In this event,

828
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: contestants throw dead fish from a point in Florida across

829
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: the state line into Alabama, vying for distance records. So,

830
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: as I've hinted at, don't think too hard. It is

831
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: exactly what it sounds like. And of course it's mullet

832
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: um that they're throwing, which I will say for anyone unaware,

833
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: mullet are are a culturally significant species in that of

834
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: the country, more so than than anywhere else. There's mullet festivals,

835
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: you can buy smoke mullet on the side of the

836
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: road and stuff like that. Uh. Now, normally the mullet

837
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: toss happens in April, but Rhona Rhona squash that right.

838
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: You attack on a few hurricanes in that area this season,

839
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: plus constantly fluctuating state restrictions on how bars could operate,

840
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: if they can be open, if they can't, and the

841
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: mullet toss this year it kind of got sideline um.

842
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: But you know, we can breathe a sigh of relief,

843
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: fish hurlers because the event actually starts today October twenty

844
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: three and runs all weekend. And in case you're wondering,

845
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: just can we still get flights? I was just gonna say,

846
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: think about what you're saying. Not only can we get them,

847
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: we can fly first class for like ten dollars. Airlines

848
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: emails me daily just like, please go somewhere, Please we'll

849
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: pick you up at your house. We'll get you a

850
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: limo to come to fill the airport, private jet just

851
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: fly somewhere daily. I have to like say, like like

852
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's out of control. So yeah, um,

853
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: we'd probably well, obviously we're not gonna catch today's festivities,

854
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: but we can be there by Saturday night, you know

855
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. Um, And in in case you or

856
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: anybody else is wondering. And again I'm not judging this

857
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: information one way or another. It's just you know, because

858
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I like to be factual and give you all sides. Um.

859
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: One of the bars owners uh says masks are optional,

860
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: so there's that. Um yeah, And the same guy reminds

861
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: us it's an outdoor event and it's usually breezy there,

862
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about the COVID too much.

863
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: Though it does it does leave me wondering, right, Um,

864
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: this could be we should go because this might be

865
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: the mullet toss of the century. Records will be broken

866
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: because I have to imagine you've got eight months of

867
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: quarantine to just fling dead mullet around the yard like

868
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: you owned your goddamn craft. If this is if this

869
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: is your thing, that you and and we're laughing, but

870
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, there are certain people in this competition, like

871
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: there could be a documentary. It's like, well, everybody comes

872
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: in as fun, but old Billy Jefferson, he's the mullet

873
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: toss guy. So you know it's it's It's kind of

874
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: like how throughout Quarantine, I've magically gotten better at spinning

875
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: deer hair. This could be a competition for the ages,

876
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: all right, I have technical questions, yeah, and and maybe

877
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: you don't know the answers, but I still have them.

878
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: I may not. Is there like a particular Is this

879
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: like the shot put where you have to you know,

880
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: the mechanics of it are dictated in rules and there's

881
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: only one type of tossing? Or can you throw these

882
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: things however you want? You know, two hands over the head, underhand,

883
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: throw it like a football whatever. It's just about your distance,

884
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: like can you get a running start? I want there

885
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: have got to be some rules around this. Okay, So

886
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: I am not entirely sure about that, but I already

887
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: have a feeling one or more people is going to

888
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: write in after this episode and and tell us, though

889
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: I will say and again, pardon if I'm wrong, but

890
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: I remember covering this in a magazine years ago briefly,

891
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: and I think it was just like, whatever you gotta

892
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: do to get the mullet as far as you can go,

893
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: Like you may even be allowed to make a giant slingshot,

894
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: like I'm really not mechanical advantage is allowed. I don't

895
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, and I should I

896
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: should have gone further into that. But um, you know,

897
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: mullet toss, which is interesting to me because mullet run

898
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: fish wise, huge deal in the Gulf, huge deal in Florida, right,

899
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: Um not so, I mean we were we just got

900
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: over our mullet run here. It's just not as big

901
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: a thing here because it never seems to coincide with

902
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: any other fish. So it's like, oh dude, there's mullet

903
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: all over. Yeah, but the stripers aren't here yet or

904
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: this isn't here yet, so they just it doesn't have

905
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: the same pun um. And I've never eaten it, but

906
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I've I've bought giant horse mullet at one of the

907
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: seafood markets here at time or two of her bait,

908
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: and to me, it is so pungent. I don't I

909
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: don't fully get it, but I do know it's a

910
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: big thing down there. I think it's like any greasy fish.

911
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: If you smoke it, it's good. That's that's my understanding.

912
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: I've had it in like a like a dip, like

913
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: a smoke fish dip, and it was fun. Um here.

914
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend too much some my mulley

915
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: because we're gonna run out of time, but I do

916
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: have a couple of things I want to say. Molly

917
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: get a bad rap in my opinion, and I know

918
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: why I have cursed many mullet many a time, because

919
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: if you're fishing for other species, particularly if you're in

920
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: like shallow water fishing for neurotic species, and mullet show

921
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: up to do that obnoxious thing where they just jump

922
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: for no reason and they spook everything around you just

923
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: you just you just hate them. But they strike me

924
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: as one of those fish that I want to learn

925
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: how to catch because they're really hard to catch, right,

926
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: because they're plankton eaters and so micro hooks and yeah,

927
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm not first, but it's crazy. It's the weird tactical

928
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: fishing rabbit hole that I could see myself going down

929
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: that it's it's like a species like that that's super

930
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: omnipresent but really really hard to to fool. Is exactly

931
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that I can get totally lost

932
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: in and stuck on. I haven't done it yet, but

933
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm not ruling it out as a possibility for my retirement.

934
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: That might be really to see you buying a little

935
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: place on a back creek dock with there's no red fish,

936
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: no tar, nothing just so, and you'd be happy. I would.

937
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I would, And I'm gonna I'm gonna pivot off of

938
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: off of dead fish being flung through the air to

939
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: another dead fish story. Um, but to get there, I gotta,

940
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I gotta. I want to. I want to go through

941
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: a different lens. I'm curious, Joe, were you Were you

942
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: a fan of the Far Side comics by Gary Larson?

943
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: Were you? Did you ever get into those? I mean,

944
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: I certainly know m I read a bunch, but no

945
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: to say I was a fan devoted to him? No, No, Yeah,

946
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: I loved him as a kid, like I really did.

947
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Like we had the books and I read them and

948
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: even though you know, when I was a kids, some

949
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: of them went over my head because some of them

950
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: were kind of heavy, but I really liked them. And

951
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Larson actually did a number of fishing related cartoons, but

952
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: the most famous of his fishing cartoons shows a couple

953
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: of dudes fishing from a boat on a lake and

954
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: in the background, several mushroom clouds rise from a nuclear attack,

955
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: and one guy says to the other, I'll tell you

956
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: what this means. Norm no size restrictions and screw the limit, right,

957
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: And it's it's funny, but it's it's super dark humor.

958
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: It's it's it's only funny because you don't expect that

959
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: to ever happen, but it's it's kind of in a

960
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: weird way, becoming a reality this fall in Colorado, except

961
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: instead of nuclear holocaust, we're talking about record drought. Okay, well,

962
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: well I was just gonna say too. I mean, not

963
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: not entirely sure where you're going, but there were a

964
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: lot of people early pandemic who had that vibe like

965
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: with like they were like, when are there no limits?

966
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: And I can just gonna start why can deer like

967
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: those people existed the totally did. And I will just

968
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: say right now, this story has nothing to do with COVID. Okay, yeah,

969
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: none at all right. Now we are in what's being

970
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: called a mega drought. More than forty five of the

971
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: lower forty eight needs moisture real bad, and Colorado is

972
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: getting hit particularly hard. The entire western half of the

973
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: state is an extreme drought, and almost of the state

974
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: is in what's called exceptional drought. One thing not so

975
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: extremely tend being extremely extreme. I give us a night.

976
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: Fish need water, but right now there isn't enough of

977
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: it to go around. Some of Colorado's many reservoirs are

978
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: being drained down to the point where they cannot support

979
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: fish populations, so Colorado Parks and Wildlife have declared emergency

980
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: fish salvages. Salvages mean a complete suspension of bag or

981
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: size limits. Basically, it means that CPW has given up

982
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: hope that fish will survive in these watersheds, and instead

983
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: of yeah, instead of letting those fish go to waste,

984
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: they let anglers come in and take as many as

985
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: they can. CPW has enacted salvages at four different reservoirs,

986
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: bar Jumbo, Pewter Ponds, and as of last week, Wahatya,

987
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: though the salvage at Jumbo was recently rescinded to be

988
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: clear as far as I can understand, the other ones

989
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: are still gone. Fish habitat is not the primary purpose

990
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: of Colorado reservoirs, or really any reservoir anywhere. They're owned

991
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: and managed by irrigation companies. In a state that's mostly arid,

992
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: reservoirs function as water catchment and retention systems. Colorado has

993
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: lots of mountains. Those traps snow in the cold months.

994
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: That snow then melts into rivers, but river flows are

995
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: inconstant seasonal so reservoirs allow water managers like some insurance

996
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: they can bank water, but that insurance will only go

997
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: so far, right, Like, if a drought persists long enough,

998
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: reservoirs get drawn down to irrigate crops and flush toilets

999
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: and water lawns. And I'm not going to go off

1000
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: on an anti lawn rent right now. I swore I

1001
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do it, even though I really really want to.

1002
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: But just real quick watering plots of non native grass

1003
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: and arid environments because it looks pretty is way up

1004
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: there on the list of pointlessly destructive yet seemingly innocent

1005
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: stupid ship that people do. Colorado, California, Arizona, New Mexico.

1006
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: I am talking to you anyway. I'm not gonna do it.

1007
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm done. I'm done. That's it. I had

1008
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: and you know, and I even agree with you, except

1009
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't feel like the sneers from my neighbors when

1010
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: my my ship's running wild. Yeah, I had to say something,

1011
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: but I just I don't. I'm not trying to get

1012
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: way off off topic. My point here. Fishing is a

1013
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: secondary benefit of reservoirs. So when the water needs exceed

1014
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: the water capacity, they get drained and the fish can

1015
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: either die of oxygen depletion or they can be put

1016
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: to some good use of food. So while I find

1017
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: this story a bit of a bummer and perhaps a

1018
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: harbinger of existential threat to the future of fishing in

1019
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: a hotter, drier world, I give Colorado Parks and Wildlife props.

1020
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Instead of ostriching their way through this, they're recognizing what's

1021
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: going on and doing their best to let the public

1022
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: harvest as much of this resource as possible. And not

1023
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: only that, once water levels and lakes get so low

1024
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: that fishing becomes unsafe, right because like water, solo is

1025
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: just like this mud flat. You can't let people go

1026
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: out there. CPW will close public access, but they go

1027
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: in and try to shock out whatever fish are remaining

1028
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: and then relocate them to healthier systems. This isn't the

1029
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: first time CPW has had to declare emergency salvages. In

1030
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, Colorado experienced a similar drought the drains

1031
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: some of the same reservoirs, but through restocking and management,

1032
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: many of those fisheries were back in great shape by

1033
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: This is one of those stories that forces you to

1034
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: think about scale in a few different ways. In the

1035
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: short short term, anglers are stoked, they get to go

1036
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: fill their freezers. It's like that free for all pool

1037
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: seen in Caddyshack. In the slightly longer term, they're gonna

1038
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: lose some of their local fisheries, at least for a while.

1039
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: Those fisheries will probably bounce back in a few years.

1040
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: What happens after that will be dictated by temperature and

1041
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: precipitation and long term forecast of West It's not that great.

1042
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: Final point to consider here, though, is that all of

1043
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: these are completely unnatural fisheries. They are man made lakes

1044
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: stock with non native fish, manage for entertainment and harvest

1045
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: period that's it. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing,

1046
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: but it somehow makes this whole situation feel just a

1047
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: little less tragic to me knowing that. Yeah, well, and

1048
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: a gut reaction to that could be very easily, especially

1049
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: if you fish one of these reservoirs. It's like, holy

1050
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: sh it, like like the place that I love is

1051
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: going away. But I think the overriding message here, even

1052
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: though we're all fishermen, um and you said it, reservoirs

1053
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: their primary function is not to create fishing and recreation

1054
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: opportunities for people. That's not what they're there for. And

1055
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: it is completely manufactured. It's a manufactured lake that at

1056
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: some point fish were stocked. And that's almost like a

1057
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: bonus for the outdoorsman. Lucky you if you have a

1058
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: reservoir that fishes really well and you have great access

1059
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: to Because where I live, and and this happens in

1060
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the country, we have some reservoirs out here.

1061
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: You can fish most of them. You cannot most of

1062
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: the reservoirs, like connected to the Newark Water Shed that

1063
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: that feeds um New York City, like in North Jersey especially,

1064
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you hear legendary stories of people like you

1065
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: know who hop the fence and and fish this reservoir,

1066
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: that reservoir, and it's like you know, Midwest smallmouth to

1067
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: the tenth power like nothing else you can find around here.

1068
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: But they are all under lock and key. They're they're

1069
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: they're protected because that that's New York City's water. You

1070
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: can't like they it's it's it's there for a purpose.

1071
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: So um I I I understand again that gut reaction

1072
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: of like, that's horrible to lose a fishery, but that's

1073
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: what these reservoirs are there for first and foremost, you know, Yeah, yeah,

1074
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a little different in certain like

1075
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: when you're talking about water management out west, and we

1076
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: can't get into this because we don't time, but there's

1077
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: a little there's some some issues there in terms of

1078
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: your gets having all the power. But in this particular case,

1079
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the fish that live in the

1080
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: reservoirs that aren't native there, they were just really put

1081
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: and take fisheries that that's a different story than the

1082
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: perhaps native fish that lived downstream of those. Sure, anyway,

1083
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: a lot to you on there, Phil, Let's uh I

1084
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: pandered to you last week with the Pokemon story, and

1085
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: that didn't work. So this week I went a completely

1086
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: different direction, and uh, I expect some goods gonna come

1087
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: out of it. Buddy, I thought you had the shoeing

1088
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: with Pokemon too, but you did not. And now it's

1089
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: time to see who swayed the all powerful Phil this week.

1090
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: And as soon as he's done weighing in, join us

1091
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: for an extremely awkward family dinner and a poke in

1092
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: the eye with a sharp object in our sale bin

1093
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: segment devoted to idiotic online classified ads. M. I have

1094
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: to be honest. This week is a little tough for me.

1095
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: I keep hearing you guys talking about Oh well, I

1096
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: chose this story because I think Phil would like it. Oh,

1097
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: Phil likes video games, Phil likes Pokemon. Well, am I

1098
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: some lab rat to be to be prodded with a stick? Oh?

1099
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: Which which stimuli? Does? He respond? Tokay, no, No, I

1100
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: I am a person. I am a human being with

1101
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: an evolved brain. I will not be objectified and looked

1102
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: down upon like this anyway. Joe Sirmellie is the winner

1103
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: this week because I like the fish flying through the air.

1104
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: That was funny, but Why did you put the hand

1105
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: to pave You don't know what I'm getting, man, You

1106
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: didn't have to be to hurtful with me so angry?

1107
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: All right? This week on the sale band, I am

1108
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: running a two for a two for one special buy

1109
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: one get one free because I've got two items here

1110
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: that are definitely worth mentioned, but not because of what

1111
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: they are, just because of the descriptions. And we've got

1112
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: two terrific instances here of t m I within a

1113
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: sale post and I just love them. Okay, so I

1114
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: love I love a bargain for one to love a

1115
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: bargain for me. The first one I was tipped off

1116
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: to by my buddy John Fedorca, so shout out to him,

1117
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: who sent me a link to a Facebook marketplace item

1118
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: in old Bridge, New Jersey. And what we have is

1119
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: just a surf fishing combo. The title is just Tica

1120
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: ten ft six two or best offer, and Dud's got

1121
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: an old pen bait runner on it, which I assume

1122
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: is part of the deal. We wouldn't know, though, because

1123
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: the description simply reads two hundred oh bi oh. I

1124
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: don't fish anymore because my dad is a jerk. So

1125
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: there's that. I feel like this means a little bit

1126
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: of a marketing one on one class for the For

1127
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: the life of me, I can't figure out why you

1128
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: felt the need to include that information the sale description.

1129
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: He's like, well, I don't want people to think that

1130
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with the item, so I tell my father.

1131
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: I just hope it's all resolved by Thanksgiving, you know,

1132
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: or considering Thanksgiving is a huge striper weekend. You know,

1133
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: Dan'll show up talking about the blitz he fished all morning,

1134
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: like sleeping beauty over here, couldn't get his ass up again,

1135
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: like it could be really ugly. He's like, you know what, Dad,

1136
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: I just sold that present you gave me on Craig's List.

1137
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: So that's one rod for sale because Dad is a jerk.

1138
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: And uh, we're gonna move on here to double our

1139
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: pleasure today. This one is on Facebook marketplace in Rumsen,

1140
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, and the out of the post is giant

1141
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: fish one and we have a very nice sailfish replica.

1142
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: And tell you what, a hundred bucks ain't bad. A

1143
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for a big sailfish like that not bad

1144
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: if it was around the corner. I'm looking at this photo.

1145
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: It looks like a decent mount It looks like a

1146
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: decent fish to catch you guys up, I only sent

1147
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: Miles the photo of this. I do not have the description.

1148
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: You do not know why it's funny yet. However, in

1149
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: the photo right there two chairs under the sailfish, and

1150
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: if you were to sit in either of them, your

1151
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: head would hit the sailfish. And the ceiling is I

1152
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe five inches away from the highest point

1153
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: of the dorsal fin. Uh. And so to my eye,

1154
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: if I were a batman, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess

1155
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: the sailfish is hanging in a mobile home, okay. And

1156
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: my suspicion is bolstered by this description. If you don't

1157
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: have an eight foot sailfish hanging in your home, you

1158
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: don't know what you're missing. We normally keep tennis ball

1159
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: on its bill to avoid serious eye injuries. So wherever

1160
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: this is hanging, there's not really enough room for it

1161
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: to be hanging. And I could not help myself with

1162
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: this one, and I pined the cellar and I just said, uh,

1163
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: does the tennis ball come with the fish? I'm interested,

1164
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: but I've got serious safety concerns. And she wrote me

1165
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: back and just said, I will gladly have fixed the

1166
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: tennis ball to assuage any fears. Would you prefer a

1167
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: tennis ball with a squeaker? So she gave me a

1168
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: little like it would have been a tennis ball with

1169
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: a squeaker asshole, like would have made it even funnier.

1170
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: But she so she gave me a little ship back.

1171
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: So good for her. But like, if you're so proud

1172
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: of your sailfish mount, but it's hanging in a place

1173
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: where like it could take your eye out, I just

1174
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: that's that's very fun. I feel like there's a domestic

1175
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: dispute behind this one. And I don't mean in the

1176
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: violent or terrible way. I mean like in a we

1177
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: have a small home and you brought this into it

1178
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: and someone lost an eye or nearly did, it's got

1179
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: to go. It's it is highly likely because my home

1180
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 1: is not that small, and I'm looking at an eight

1181
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: foot tarp in on my wall that has been around

1182
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: for twelve years now and is still a domestic dispute,

1183
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: even though it's in my office. If my wife had

1184
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: her way, that would have never been in the home.

1185
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: So very highly likely. But that is your two for

1186
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: for this week two for one special. Remember we need

1187
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: your help in finding awesome sale in items. You guys

1188
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: have been doing a killer job of sending those in

1189
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: and tipping us off. Keep those coming to bent at

1190
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com. I just kind of want

1191
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: to reach out and do an intervention with that guy

1192
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: who hates his dad, Like, maybe maybe invite him down

1193
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: to the beach, tossed out some surf frauds, moderate a

1194
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: little toss the old pigskin around, you know, model healthy communication,

1195
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: use use fishing to bring families together. It could be

1196
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: like the anti politics, And I know you want to

1197
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: think that's possible, but really probably isn't man, it probably is.

1198
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: Side note though, I actually used to own the exact

1199
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: rod that he's selling, and it's a total piece of ship.

1200
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: The particular ticka he's selling was in my high school

1201
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: senior age price range, like it's sixty bucks, but somehow

1202
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: it still came with a lifetime warranty and five times

1203
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: in two years I sent it back snapped for no particular.

1204
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 1: It would just it would just randomly break, like mid

1205
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: fling just be throwing a plug and it would just snap.

1206
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: But um, dude, I mean that's how you learn. That's

1207
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: how you come to appreciate good gear and learn what

1208
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: to avoid. But it sucks having to do it through,

1209
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, repeated frustrating trial and error like that. That's true.

1210
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: That that that is a frustrating part about fishing. But

1211
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: one way to help yourself out in that process, at

1212
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: least when it comes to lures, flies and bits, is

1213
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: to listen to our weekly end of the line segment,

1214
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 1: because you know, we're never wrong, never. This week, Joe

1215
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: is gonna tell you about a fly that an idiot

1216
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: can tie, but really smart fish will eat. Well, that's

1217
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: not loud enough. The Flashtail Whistler was designed by legendary

1218
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: fly angler, writer and photographer Dan Blanton in the late

1219
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties early nineteen seventies time frame. Now, just to

1220
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: rattle off a few of Blanton's achievements, he received the

1221
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: Federation of Fly Fisher's Lifetime Membership Award for outstanding achievements

1222
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: in fly fishing in the Silver King Award for contributions

1223
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: in saltwater fly fishing in and in two thousand nine,

1224
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: he was inducted into the Catskill Fly Fishing Center and

1225
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 1: Museum Hall of Fame. Now, according to the Internet, where

1226
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: everything is true. Blanton originally designed the whistler to target

1227
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: stripe bass in the San Francisco Bay area, and the

1228
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: goal was to create a fly that mimicked a popular

1229
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: bucktail jig in the water. To achieve this, Blanton used

1230
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: a short shank hook which allowed all the bucktail extended

1231
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: past the bend to have a more fluid action in

1232
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: the water, and he also added lead wraps to the

1233
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: hook so the fly would fall nose down while the

1234
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: buoyant bucktail trapped air and lifted the tail, further enhancing

1235
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: that bucktail jig style action. As I understand it, it

1236
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: wasn't until just a little bit later that Blanton tweaked

1237
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: the pattern extending the trailing flash material well past the

1238
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: bucktail that we landed on the most common iteration of

1239
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: the flashtail whistler, which is still widely available today. And

1240
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: in case you didn't catch it, that also means the

1241
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: pattern hasn't really changed again in fifty years now. Of course,

1242
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: since fly tires loved to tinker and can never leave

1243
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: well enough alone, you can find whistlers incorporating modern synthetics

1244
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: and tied on a variety of hooks, but today we're

1245
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: talking about the O G whistler. The classic flashtail whistler

1246
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: features a set of lighter bead chain eyes, and behind

1247
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: them there's a collar of schlapp and feather, usually ray

1248
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: to simulate gills, which fades into white or yellow bucktail.

1249
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: Down each side you'll find a single grizzly hackle feather,

1250
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: and then that long tail of tinsel flash extending way

1251
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: out the back. We live in a streamer obsessed world,

1252
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: and sometimes I think the mark of a good streamer

1253
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: these days is related to how much skill and effort

1254
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: it takes to tie it. But it takes very little

1255
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: effort to tie a flash tail whistler. A matter of fact,

1256
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,480
Speaker 1: anyone who got themselves a basic tying kit for Christmas

1257
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: can knock one of these out. While the whistler is

1258
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: hailed first and foremost as a salty pattern for everything

1259
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: from tarpin to snook to stripers, I got woke to

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Speaker 1: its powers thousands of miles from where any of those

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Speaker 1: fish live. It was on a pike trip in Saskatchewan

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Speaker 1: on the Cree River system, and the trip was sponsored

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Speaker 1: by Cabella's, which meant that every angler was giving one

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Speaker 1: of their conveniently prepackaged pike fly sets. Now, like many

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Speaker 1: serious anglers, I scoffed at the US right, like, thanks, guys,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but I doubt I'll be dipping into

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Speaker 1: this little starter pack of basic deceivers and loosely packed

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Speaker 1: hair bugs. Right. I mean, I brought five boxes loaded

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Speaker 1: down with eight to ten inch buford head monsters man

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Speaker 1: works of art. I've been crafting for months streamers with

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Speaker 1: more material than all those kit flies combined. And it

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Speaker 1: was around lunchtime on day one that my good buddy

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Speaker 1: Ben Romans tied on the flashtail whistler from his courtesy

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Speaker 1: Cabella's kit. Not for the record that the gym socks

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Speaker 1: we were heaving weren't catching fish. No, No, quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: We'd been reefing on high thirty inch pike all morning.

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Speaker 1: Ben just wanted to throw something a little less taxing

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Speaker 1: for a while, and within fifteen cast that slender little

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Speaker 1: flashtail got wolfed by a forty six inch northern and

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Speaker 1: we thought, well, this is a fluke. This can't be right.

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Speaker 1: But it was by the end of the trip. Five

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Speaker 1: of the six forty plus inch fish we put in

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Speaker 1: the net, eight a flashtail whistler. So effective was this

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Speaker 1: fly that we even pillaged all the flash tails from

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Speaker 1: everyone else's box and all that remained to them by

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Speaker 1: the time we got on the seaplane to depart, where

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Speaker 1: five short shank hooks with bead chain eyes and tattered

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Speaker 1: red slapping collars. Now, I've caught countless pike as well

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Speaker 1: as mahi mahi, lake trout, stripers and jack avow on

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Speaker 1: flash tails since that trip many years ago, and it's

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Speaker 1: a pattern that's always with me now on large predator missions,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not what I tie on first. It

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Speaker 1: has proven to be a great insurance policy when all

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Speaker 1: those sexy Instagram photo where the meat flies aren't getting

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Speaker 1: it done for one reason or another. The flashtail whistler

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Speaker 1: is a testament to the idea that if it ain't broke,

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Speaker 1: don't fix it, and you need not go broke to

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Speaker 1: buy all the materials you need to make a fly

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Speaker 1: that appeals to all the big nasties out there. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'd tied a lot of whistlers sitting at my weather

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Speaker 1: ports in Alaska. They caught I mean, they caught salmon, trout, pike,

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Speaker 1: grailing pretty much everything. That's why I'm in that river.

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Speaker 1: And best of all, I could bust out a dozen

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Speaker 1: of those things after a full day of guide in,

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Speaker 1: cleaning boats, doing chores, serving dinner, and washing dishes, even

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Speaker 1: when I was exhausted and half drunk, like I could

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Speaker 1: just get them done. The half drunk is key, because

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Speaker 1: that makes it a guide fly. If you can tie

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Speaker 1: the fly pretty ship faced, then then I then I

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Speaker 1: consider it a guide fly. Absolutely anyway. That brings us

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Speaker 1: to the end of this week's episode. And for those

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Speaker 1: of you outlining a book report for English class, Miles

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Speaker 1: is officially old. Okay. He can also tie a flashtail

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Speaker 1: whistler totally drunk. Aristotle was obsessed with eel junk, and

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Speaker 1: Australians have some crazy ass names for creeks. If you're

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Speaker 1: planning to turn that heady knowledge in for credit, all

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: we ask is proper citation. Give us some stars wherever

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01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: you listen to our podcast, holler at some friends, write

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Speaker 1: us a review or email. We promise we will not

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Speaker 1: grade on grammar or punctuation. No, we will not, and yes,

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Speaker 1: keep those emails coming to bent at the meat Eator

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Speaker 1: dot com. We read and appreciate every single one of them.

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Speaker 1: And remember, if you hook a big one. Don't be

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Speaker 1: like Miles. Sacrifice your body for the glory, Sacrifice it

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Speaker 1: for the gram.