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Speaker 1: All right, here we go Pack twelve fans. This one's

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Speaker 1: for you. This it's the PAC twelve Apostles and only

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Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsden, and this is the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve Apostles, the final season, not the final season

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Speaker 2: of this podcast, because we just got a morph it

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Speaker 2: into something else, because this is the final season of

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Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. So we will start though we're going

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Speaker 2: back and of course telling you to make sure that

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Speaker 2: because we will read your reviews and were back at

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Speaker 2: dot com or hit us up at at PAC twelve Apostles. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we will of course get back to you. So, Ralph,

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Speaker 2: we have a new review.

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Speaker 3: We do we do we It's a beautiful one. Left

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Speaker 3: on September sixth, twenty twenty three. The title is bull

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Speaker 3: junk and the review.

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Speaker 2: H huh if it's a bull junk, did Dion righte this?

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Speaker 3: It's deon adjacent. The title of the review is bull

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Speaker 3: Junk and the review is one word crap, and not surprisingly,

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Speaker 3: this isn't one star review. So my initial thought was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we got we got, we got a Don fan and

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Speaker 3: it's understandable, and this review would be on me, right,

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Speaker 3: this would be on me and and my prediction. I

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Speaker 3: thought they'd have a year two explosion. I thought year

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Speaker 3: I told you is gonna be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Buddy, Yeah, I mean you were, you were. You were

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Speaker 2: like doubling my win total four and six wins, and

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Speaker 2: now that they beat both Nebraska and TCU, I'm going

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Speaker 3: I think this is my first time underestimating a team.

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Speaker 3: I think year two of our podcast, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: I said UCLA was going over.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and there was a point in the season where

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Speaker 3: you might have thought I was right. But so here's

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Speaker 3: the deal. This review was left by somebody with the

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Speaker 3: name Strattonius, and so I googled that username because I'm

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Speaker 3: me and this is what I do. And I found

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Speaker 3: out they are a serial one star review lever and

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Speaker 3: they're not a Dion fan. They are a tried and

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Speaker 3: true Colorado fan, so I got even credit for that.

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Speaker 3: They aren't just out here defending Dion's honor. God forbid,

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Speaker 3: we have enough people doing that. Deon can do it himself,

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Speaker 3: by the way. And so this is somebody who is

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Speaker 3: far back as twenty twenty was like leaving one star

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Speaker 3: reviews on the DNVR podcast saying that it was junk.

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Speaker 3: So this is somebody who is to be unhappy and

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Speaker 3: looking for reasons to spread that unhappiness. It is my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just know that Ralph will find you. Ralph

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Speaker 2: will find you, all right, So you guys make sure

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Speaker 2: that you leave a review and share the podcast with

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Speaker 2: a friend more than anything else. So up next, though,

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Speaker 2: before we get to this week and what happened this

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Speaker 2: news because the Pack two sued the PAC ten. They

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Speaker 2: stop me if I'm wrong, Ralph that the Pack ten

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Speaker 2: that are leaving they want control over the money. That

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Speaker 2: way then they can help pay their transition costs to

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Speaker 2: their new conference. And the PAC two is like no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: Close close the pac eight, not including USC and UCLA

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Speaker 3: because they were stripped of voting rights for their desertion.

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Speaker 3: The eight teams that have decided to leave this year

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Speaker 3: decided that those rules don't apply to them, the ones

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Speaker 2: A pagets, who's who's going to be left holding the

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Speaker 3: That's true. That's true because there there is I mean,

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Speaker 3: My gosh, Well maybe that's the reason that the eight

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Speaker 3: I what I will say is, and I would assume

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Speaker 3: of trying to figure out what happens. But good luck

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Speaker 3: to those two teams. If you're trying to recoup any

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Speaker 3: the way out USC and UCLA, they just you know,

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Speaker 3: But for the rest of the schools, for your your Arizona,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I did, I did uh get a

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Speaker 3: way it ended, people saying go Koog's and go Beef's

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Speaker 3: at the end of the at the end of the

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Speaker 3: If the judge ruled any other way, I think it'd

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Speaker 2: Well, uh, well the judge is also a Washington State

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this thing is gonna get deeper rapping a

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Speaker 2: however many million dollars and you're leaving too. No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Or can an emancipated child get child support from a

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Speaker 2: next thing. We did our picks against the spread, Ralph, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and uh how did how did they go?

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Speaker 3: You went seven and four. I we picked against each

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Speaker 3: And then on the on the totals we both went

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Speaker 3: spread on the season's yeah, and you went You know

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Speaker 2: I did, man, because it's something about things like as

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, oh, he's gonna beat his ass,

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Speaker 3: And he just texted me that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And as we got closer to the Colorado TCU game,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna beat Nebraska too. And Colorado still has the

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Speaker 2: same issue. They can't run the football, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get to that in a minute. But what

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Speaker 2: came out of that weekend Ralph eight pack twelve teams

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Speaker 2: in the top twenty five? Are you kidding me? Are

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Speaker 3: It should be nine? It should be nine. But Cal's

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Speaker 2: He doesn't mean specially in a nice way. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: we have usc the highest ranked pack twelve team at number.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go to the actual rankings. But besides the

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Speaker 2: you're pulling rankings, Yes, yes, the as they should be

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Speaker 2: so you have yeah, so you have USC in pole

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Speaker 3: You got you got it? Not just technology. You had

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Speaker 3: to tell people why we were late for the podcast today.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, flat flat tire. Noah problem, just a dummy

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Speaker 2: Chatsworth Tire for a plugging your boy out. So USC

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Speaker 2: You taught at number twelve, Oregon at thirteen, Oregon stayed

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Speaker 2: to point this out. Marked the time on the tape

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Speaker 2: Ralph eleven minutes and ten seconds. The national media is

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Speaker 2: not acknowledging this the way that they are supposed to.

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Speaker 2: They are not acknowledging the PAC twelve having eight ranked

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Speaker 2: should be, because if this was the SEC or even

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Speaker 2: the Big Ten or any other conference specifically, the SEC

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Speaker 2: Lord have Mercy David be doing flips. They'd be like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, it is the best conference ever.

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Speaker 3: This team.

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Speaker 2: They've got to get two teams in the playoff. They

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Speaker 2: have to. This is gonna be such a gauntlet. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be unbelievable, unstoppable. Just give them the championship. Now,

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Speaker 2: that's what they would be doing. And you know what

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Speaker 2: they're doing right now, Ralph, Yeah, there's a hey, yo,

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Speaker 2: there's really good football being played out out out West

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, out West? Yes, specifically in Boulder, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Yes, where where Big.

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Speaker 3: Noon Kickoff and Game Day have set up shop for

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Speaker 2: Against Colorado State. But I'm not mad at that, only

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Speaker 2: because of the rest of the schedule. But that's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does make me feel like more and more

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. They bailed out early, and truthfully,

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Speaker 3: And you should insulate and spend most of your time

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Speaker 2: No, I actually think that that's actually the way it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because as an Oregon fan, I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 2: Colorado thirty six Nebraska fourteen. In the first half, Colorado

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Speaker 2: this was a case of Colorado's athletes out athleting Nebraska. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and did a did a job turning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even though Nebraska's quarterback Jeff Simms helped a lot.

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Speaker 3: if there's a Colorado jersey underneath. Jeff Simms is a

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Speaker 3: I I'm not wrong? Right? Scott Saderfield is the OC

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Speaker 2: Well, oh, they don't have the worst OC on Earth.

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Speaker 2: Colorado last year had the worst OC on Earth.

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Speaker 3: What I didn't realize about Jeff Simms is he's fast

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Speaker 3: when you go out there to run the ball, there'd

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Speaker 3: When you the second half, especially the fourth quarter, is

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Like that's where you see the separation. And you saw

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Speaker 3: Holy cow. I know he's at his third college. I

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Speaker 3: They still can't run the ball. They still can't stop

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no it is not. Maybe it is going

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Speaker 3: Who has the guts to go in with that game plan? Though?

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Speaker 3: not flashy. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

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Speaker 2: I think you have of Oregon's gonna try to run

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Speaker 3: I worry about. I worry about Oregon though, because they're

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Speaker 3: on this whole bow Knicks Heisman campaign thing. Would he

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Speaker 3: be okay to go out and only throw the ball

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Bo Knicks cares. I think that

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Speaker 2: you know, because because the true truth be told is

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Speaker 3: Tree just a fact.

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Speaker 2: So so that's the So that's the case, and you

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, so Colorado they got that. They're they're

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Speaker 3: And and this line started at eighteen, but now Colorado's

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Speaker 2: Oh man? See see this feels tough because we only

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So so if we're sitting here and we're looking at

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Speaker 2: Mummy's their coordinator on the offense. They and they played

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Speaker 3: Colorado State's not going to come out and run the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're gonna throw it all the time, and I

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Speaker 2: take the under. I'm not. I'm definitely not taking under

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Colorado and I'm

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Speaker 2: I think this is a nine and a half fifty

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Speaker 2: Utah twenty Baylor thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Make Yike's game.

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Speaker 2: This was a rock fight, bro, Utah was fortunate to

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Speaker 2: get out of this game, even though that they had

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Speaker 2: plenty of opportunities to step up. But I think that

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Speaker 2: the glass slipper has fallen off of Bryson Barnes. Nate

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Speaker 2: Johnson is the quarterback until until comes back, until Cam

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Speaker 2: Rising comes back. Brant Keithy said he's not sitting out

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Speaker 2: this year. So they're still missing starters at Utah. However,

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Speaker 2: and when we go over our Pack twelve power rankings,

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Speaker 2: I had to move like I was like Utah still

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Speaker 2: being ranked where they're ranked in the AP pole doesn't

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Speaker 2: make sense to me. I actually would have been fine

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Speaker 2: if they were down in the twenties because they they've won,

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Speaker 2: but they have not looked good. Florida's not very good,

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Speaker 2: Baylor's bad, And yes they won those games and they

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Speaker 2: weren't pretty and gritty, but people like they have so

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Speaker 2: many starters out, that's not our problem. Like we're supposed

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Speaker 2: to rank what we've seen on the field, and what

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Speaker 2: we've seen on the field has not been great from Utah.

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Speaker 2: Yes it's gritty, Yes they're keeping it going. Hopefully things

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Speaker 2: turn around when Rising along, but this does not look

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Speaker 2: like a team offensively that's good at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I don't think Nate Johnson is

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Speaker 3: the the savior. I think he's the better option because

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Speaker 3: you need somebody that can move around and Bryson Barnes

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Speaker 3: is not your move around guy.

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Speaker 2: And he doesn't throw the ball as well as Bryson

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Speaker 2: Barnes does. And Bryson Barnes is not throwing the ball

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Speaker 2: well either, So there's that right.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, this was this might have been the most physical

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Speaker 3: game of the weekend. Baylor was hit and hitting.

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Speaker 2: Yea, they were.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what Kyle Whitningham say something about their

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Speaker 3: mothers or what like. They were out there, they were

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Speaker 3: playing hard, and so it really made me think the

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Speaker 3: Baylor season's not over because the Big twelve's kind of down.

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Speaker 3: They might actually do some damage in that conference if

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Speaker 3: if if offensively they can get right. But like we said,

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Speaker 3: the good the good teams separate from the okay teams

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Speaker 3: towards the end of the game, and Utah has got

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Speaker 3: their only two touchdowns in the in the second half,

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Speaker 3: and the defense held up and it happened on the road.

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Speaker 3: So I give Utah a lot of respect for being

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Speaker 3: able to pull this rabbit out of the hat. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, yeah, like there's a lot of warts, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot of and the.

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Speaker 2: Twelve for twenty six for one hundred and fifty three

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Speaker 2: yards and a pick, Like that's what the quarterbacks combined. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, Baylor wasn't any better. They were twelve for

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Speaker 2: twenty eight with two picks. The only difference is that

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Speaker 2: Utah was able to run the ball. They ran the

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Speaker 2: ball forty seven times four point eight yards to carry

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Speaker 2: in two touchdowns. But yeah, this is I did like

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Speaker 2: they look like they have wide receivers this year though.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right about that. Yeah, they just they

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Speaker 3: don't have a way to get them the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yep. But the question is how much better is Utah

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Speaker 2: going to be with Cam Rising offensively?

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Speaker 3: I their commitment to the run. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: make the run game even easier, and so that can

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Speaker 3: make all the difference, just the relief of not having

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Speaker 3: everybody be able to play. I'd definitely sit him this week.

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Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to see Brent Keithy

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Speaker 3: in uniform. I don't want to see Cam Rising in

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Speaker 3: uniform this week because it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Against Weaver State on Pack twelve network. I actually would

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Speaker 2: like to see them, and that's an eleven am kick.

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Speaker 2: I actually would like to see them. And because they

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Speaker 2: need to get a tune up at least a little bit,

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Speaker 2: so there's no over under on this game because it's

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Speaker 2: an FCS team, so we automatically set the spread at

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Speaker 2: thirty eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: Ralph, I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna take Utah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take the thirty eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no. Give me

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Speaker 2: Weaver State, buddy, give me Weaver State. This is one

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Speaker 2: of the best FCS teams. They will put some points up.

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Speaker 2: They will put some points up. Utah's defense is really good.

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Speaker 2: But listen, I think that this game could be close

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Speaker 2: for a second until the second half. This is gonna

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Speaker 2: be like a twenty one point big three, twenty four

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Speaker 2: at the very most. They'll stretch it out a little

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Speaker 2: bit at the end, but I don't even feel confident

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Speaker 2: in that. To be perfectly honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: This was like, well, if hold up, if Cam Rising

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Speaker 2: does not play, if Cam Rising does play, this could

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Speaker 2: this could hit over that thirty eight?

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Speaker 3: I feel you and I do think we were stated right.

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Speaker 3: Is one of the better teams in FCS. But last

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Speaker 3: year I'm pretty sure in game two or three, I

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Speaker 3: took Southern Utah to cover a forty point spread and

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Speaker 3: Utah beat them seventy three to seven. So I'm still

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Speaker 3: remembering the pain of being wrong on that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this office is a little bit different though. Up

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Speaker 2: next you have Washington forty three, Tulsa ten and Michael

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Speaker 2: PENNICKX Junior. He did throw a pick in the game,

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Speaker 2: but Lord have mercy.

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Speaker 3: That picture and accounted the picture and accounted Roma Dunese

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Speaker 3: got face masked and stopped because you figure a face

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Speaker 3: mask is pretty obvious, and the ball landed in a

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Speaker 3: defensive player's hands in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight for thirty eight four hundred and nine yards. Bro,

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns. How do you slow this full down? They

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Speaker 2: run the ball extremely good. They only ran for one

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Speaker 2: hundred and nine yards on twenty two carries, which is.

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Speaker 3: Crazy because they were up a million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, they just kid. They are trying to make

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Speaker 2: sure Michael Pennix Junior gets his stats, and they are

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Speaker 2: trying to win and stat their way to a Heisman, Bro,

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Speaker 2: that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to take

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Speaker 2: the same game playing that USC did last year.

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Speaker 3: Pennix is on pace to break the PAC twelve single

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Speaker 3: season passing record if he keeps this up. I know

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Speaker 3: it's only two games, but if he keeps this pace up,

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Speaker 3: he will because they'd have to get to a thirteenth

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Speaker 3: game for him to do it. But it's like fifty

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Speaker 3: six hundred yards or something like that, and he's on

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Speaker 3: pace for.

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Speaker 2: It right at is I mean, dude, he's putting up

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Speaker 2: Washington state numbers, Bro, Washington state passing numbers, which is wild.

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Speaker 3: In what looks like a relatively normal offense. I also

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Speaker 3: want to get a shout out to Jalen McMillan, who

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Speaker 3: had on paper a very good game, but he dropped

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Speaker 3: a touchdown. He fumbled in what would have given them

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Speaker 3: another touchdown before half, or at least an opportunity for

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Speaker 3: a field goal. He had the most bipolar game he had.

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Speaker 3: Kaylin Debor like pacing the sidelines. But it's good. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's good. If you're gonna have a nightmare game

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Speaker 3: like that, it's good to at least also produce and

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Speaker 3: show what you're capable of. But I don't know where

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Speaker 3: his head was at. He was. He was definitely strugg one.

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Speaker 3: At times he was good and terrible. Yes he was.

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Speaker 2: He was good and terrible a tub You're like, oh, hell,

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Speaker 2: hell of a game. And then you're like, uh when

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Speaker 2: you watching this that you're.

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Speaker 3: Like and a fumble and a drop touchdown when he's

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Speaker 3: more wide open than he'll ever be in his entire life.

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Speaker 2: Yep, hey man, it happens. Sometimes. Their next game is

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Speaker 2: at Michigan State on Peacock two pm. Washington is a

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Speaker 2: sixteen and a half point favorite over under fifty seven

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Speaker 2: and a half. Give me Washington and them sixteen and

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Speaker 2: a half points. It could be twenty points and I

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Speaker 2: would still take it. Ralph. That okay, that is that

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Speaker 2: is my book. Itt I book that this week. That

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Speaker 2: is probably going to be the lock of a week, Ralph,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, speaking of Peacock, there is no mel

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Speaker 3: Tucker coaching in this game, so we'll see how whole

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00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: another story. Yeah, when we're not going to get into it.

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Speaker 3: Oh uh, the line is moving moving, so a lot

590
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Speaker 3: of the money here is on Washington. They don't think

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Speaker 3: the Michigan State's gonna respond very well to this. Again,

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Speaker 3: if Michigan State has a pass rush, then they'll they'll

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Speaker 3: be in the game, and if not, they won't. I

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Speaker 3: am going to say seventeen point Washington win, which is

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Speaker 3: enough to cover, and I'll take the over as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I don't see. Honestly, I just don't

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Speaker 2: see a world where Michigan State is slowing them down

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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 3: I just do you have? Do you have Peacock? This

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Speaker 3: is gonna be a weird weekend for games because, first

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Speaker 3: of all, this is the last weekend of the PAC

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Speaker 3: twelve network having to stretch its resources because they'll never

603
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Speaker 3: have a week like this again because they won't exist.

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Speaker 3: So there's like like seven of our games on PAC

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Speaker 3: twelve network. I don't have Peacock, so I got to

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Speaker 3: find a way to get this game.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely have. I have, Okay, Ralph, I have everything,

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Speaker 2: everything except except Pack twelve twelve network. Everything possible except

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Speaker 2: Pack twelve network. It is easier for me to access

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00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: at I have Peacock, Paramount plus Discovery plus Hulu TV,

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Speaker 2: YouTube TV.

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Speaker 3: You got a you got a TV? Mortgage.

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and and and can't get back twelve network,

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Speaker 2: Sorry as hell. All right, Now on to my Oregon

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Speaker 2: Ducks thirty eight to thirty. Hey, Ralph, there was it

616
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Speaker 2: was never in doubt we were covering that spread, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Never in were.

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Speaker 3: You gonna weren't you gonna like jump off a building

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Speaker 3: if Oregon's defense gave up like well, I said forty,

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Speaker 3: they gave up thirty. But are you were a little

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Speaker 3: bit worried about the defense here? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And no right, so yes from the sheer number of points,

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Speaker 2: But when you look at how those points were accomplished.

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Speaker 2: Number number one, Texas Tech had a beautiful game game plan.

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Speaker 2: So they went like blur speed like Oregon used to

626
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Speaker 2: like fast like where where they could only cut called

627
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: vanilla defenses. They couldn't get into any blitz packages. They

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00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: could barely sub so Jordan Burch only played twenty nine

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Speaker 2: plays in the game. They couldn't they literally couldn't get

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Speaker 2: him on the field. Now, there were some times in

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Speaker 2: third downs where they didn't pick up some where they

632
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: didn't get off the field on third down, but they

633
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: did have them in third and long a lot, which

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Speaker 2: is a good sign. But the issue is is that

635
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech did something that they don't do. Bro Tyler Shuck,

636
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Speaker 2: who the reason why he got pushed out of Oregon

637
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: is because they didn't he did he wouldn't run the ball,

638
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: or they didn't think that he could run the ball

639
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: through random ball like what twenty two to twenty four times,

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Speaker 2: and most of them were designed runs. Like they were

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Speaker 2: designed runs.

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Speaker 3: I told you that before the game. I said, you're

643
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Speaker 3: gonna be you. You are gonna freak out at how

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00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: much they run Tyler Shuck on purpose. Which ps if

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Speaker 3: I was trying to kill Tyler Shuck, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: have him die on the field. This would have been

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Speaker 3: my game plan. He took thirty hits, He got hit

648
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Speaker 3: thirty times. His rushing yards were actually closer to one

649
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Speaker 3: forty one fifty. He had a twenty two yard set.

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Speaker 3: They cave up right before halftime. I've never seen somebody

651
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: take this many hits in a game, and I just

652
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: want to stand on the desk for this very particular point.

653
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Your quarterback's arm is affected by the amount that you

654
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: run them. Yes, that has always been true. Because they

655
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: were never going to come back to Oregon until the

656
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: end of the game, George, he was shaking his head

657
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: every time he got up.

658
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: He was shaking. Yeah, yes, he was. You are that's

659
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: a stude observation.

660
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Well, I I was just surprised. Every time. I was like,

661
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 3: is he going to get up? And then he did

662
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: and then he shake his head. I'm like, well that's

663
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: not good.

664
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: So when he's like, I'm telling you, this dude feels

665
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: like he got in thirty six car crash. Well sorry,

666
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: thirty car crashes. Oh, because he's not used to getting

667
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: hit that much. No, and if he come out and

668
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: doesn't throw the ball well this week, you know why.

669
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 3: Right, I dude, I I like slightly pulled a lat

670
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: at the gym yesterday and couldn't sleep last night. There's

671
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: no chance Tyler Schuck's been to sleep for three days.

672
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: He's oh my gosh. And what was crazy was Oregon

673
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: had to score twenty in the fourth to win this game. Yeah,

674
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: then and the game ceiling picked six happened when to

675
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: cover by the way, when Oregon was up thirty one

676
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: thirty and I had tweeted, I was like, Tyler Schuck

677
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: revenge drive and then immediately had to tweet never mind.

678
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 3: But like he didn't have anything left in the tank

679
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: at the end of this game. Are you worried so

680
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: you think it was more strategy than indicative of any

681
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: actual issues Oregon may have on the defensive side of

682
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: the football.

683
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: I am still up in the air, up in the

684
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: air because I do think that Oregon has to figure

685
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: something out with their defensive coordinator position, possibly because Tash

686
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: is cool. But I don't think that the results are

687
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: what Dan Lanning is looking.

688
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: For because he's mister defense, mister championship defense.

689
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: Yes, and he's an excellent defensive mind, and he has

690
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: kind of turned that over, and I do think that

691
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: you're gonna need to see better results. The thing, there

692
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: was too many mistackles. I do think that they are

693
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: going to have to They do a decent job of

694
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: stopping regular runs, but it was when you added the court,

695
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: it was almost like that they didn't prepare for the

696
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: amount of quarterback runs that were done.

697
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: So they all they are They are saying that Oregon

698
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: should kill, like, buy six touchdowns, kill Hawaii at home

699
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 3: this weekend.

700
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Thirty eight point Yeah, that's a lot. I'm going to

701
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: take Oregon minus thirty eight.

702
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: And sixty eight and a half.

703
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: Sixty eight and a half. So if Oregon scores fifty

704
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: five minus thirty eight, is how much fifty five seventeen seventeen,

705
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go that's seventeen. That puts it at seventy two.

706
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take that over.

707
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: Okay, I will. I'll go with you on this one.

708
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: I think I like Hawaii. I think they're physical, but offensively,

709
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 3: I don't think they have what it takes to hang around.

710
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: So this could and at least Oregon got in and

711
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: got everybody to play a full game last week's because

712
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 3: I think that they're you're gonna I think you're gonna

713
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: see a big third quarter from the Ducks.

714
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want them to jump on jump on them early,

715
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: jump on them early, hold them, hold them down, hold

716
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: them under water. Oh, Oregon State fifty five?

717
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: Yo?

718
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: You see David seven. I did not think that you

719
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: see Davis. I didn't realize that you see David score

720
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: because I stopped watching when it was like fifty five

721
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: zero or whatever it was.

722
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: Well, you got to see three different quarterbacks in the

723
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: UC Davis game, so they might need a quarterback.

724
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: George, hey brother, hey brother, They they they got they

725
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: got one coming now, Oregon State twelve tackles for loss.

726
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: This was this was just a This is exactly what

727
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: Oregon State, if they are who everybody thinks they are,

728
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do to U see Davis. Yeah, yeah,

729
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they were supposed to do.

730
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: They got some highly rated players on this defense. Makaiah

731
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: Tungue is one of them. I think he was a

732
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: four star that everybody wanted. I think he transferred from

733
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: Georgia or something like that. He's playing well. My one

734
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: takeaway from this game is Silas Bolden can run. He

735
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: had a punt return for a touchdown. I think he

736
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 3: had a receiving touchdown. He's uh, he's fast, and it's

737
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 3: good for them to have have weapons like that to

738
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: be able to stretch the field. And they still have.

739
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: They still have DJ. You with the doing the short

740
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: run Jack Kletto stuff. So I was about to get

741
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: another touchdown. But are we house sold? Are we on DJ?

742
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: At this point?

743
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: They had a week week Week one and yeah, this

744
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: game was so out of control that he only had

745
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: to throw for one hundred and seven yards.

746
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: I would say as confident as I've been about any

747
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 3: Oregon State quarterback for the last five or six years.

748
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: So I think they're probably in a good place. Okay,

749
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: I don't think he's not. He's not Michael Pennix. He's not. No, like,

750
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: he's not gonna he's not gonna throw for four hundred

751
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: yards unless you're in like a fifty five to forty

752
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: two game or something like that. You know it. He

753
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: needs to go out there, he needs to get fifty

754
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: yards on the ground, two fifty through the air and

755
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: not turn the ball over. And Oregon State's gonna win

756
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: most of these games.

757
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. So DJ was fourteen for eight for thirteen for

758
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 2: one oh seven and two touchdowns, and then you had

759
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: my man come in, Bro, you had that young man

760
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: come in eight and Giles not for thirteen for seventy

761
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: four yards and a touchdown, and then rush for another

762
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: four for forty two yards and a touchdown. Now, they

763
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: didn't bring him in for, you know, to like replace,

764
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: but they are clearly making sure that he gets reps.

765
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and they got to do whatever they can

766
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: to make him feel come there because the future super

767
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: uncertain for this school. They don't know who they're gonna

768
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: be playing next year.

769
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: He's not transferring I'm telling you right now, they got

770
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: to schedule ten games. Yeah, damn no, no, no, they

771
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: got to schedule nine because they have their non conference

772
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: set already and you.

773
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 3: Have to figure that they're gonna make them play Oregon.

774
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: Right, yes, hopefully so?

775
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: All right, so they need eight games?

776
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna see what they what they

777
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: have on their future schedule on on FBS schedules dot com,

778
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: because that's very interesting because they're twenty twenty four football

779
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: schedule only has three games on it. Damn, Idaho State,

780
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: Boise States.

781
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: What's crazy is do you know who needs a lot

782
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: of games? Who is all these teams that are leaving.

783
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: So what you might see is you might see the

784
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: same schedules this year for Washington State in Oregon State

785
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: next year because ASU is gonna have to fill in

786
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: a game or two, Colorado's gonna have to fill in

787
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: a game or two. They're all gonna be in competition.

788
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: They have to fill in. Why did Colorado and like

789
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: the team's going to the Big Twelve don't need to

790
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: fill any games?

791
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: But they don't play nine conference games in the Big Twelve?

792
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: Do they?

793
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: Yes? They do, Yes, dude, they play nine and then

794
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: then they play Yeah, they played the entire conference because

795
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: it was only ten of them left. I mean, okay,

796
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: so there's only ten teams that they played the entire conference.

797
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so then it would be it would be Washington, Oregon, UCLA,

798
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: and USC that need to fill in one non con game. No,

799
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: they play.

800
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: Nine games, yes, ten, yes, the eighth. Everybody's jumping on

801
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: this train. The A SEC and the SEC the only

802
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: ones that play eight.

803
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Oh then yeah, this is to get

804
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: scheduling is going to be a mess.

805
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was exactly the thing I was harping on.

806
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: I was like it because people like they can wait

807
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: a while on this conference Deial know they can't.

808
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 3: They can.

809
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and think about the pomp and circumstance that was

810
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: put around the Big Ten schedule release of a couple

811
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: months ago, and then all of a sudden they add

812
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: Washington Oregon. Now they got to blow the whole thing up.

813
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: So nobody even knows who they're playing next year in

814
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: the Big Ten yet, so love it all right. Oregon

815
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: State next week has their home against San Diego State

816
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: on FS one twelve thirty. Oregon State is favored by

817
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: twenty four and a half points, Ralph over under forty

818
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: eight and a half.

819
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: I'll take I'll take the over and i will take

820
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: Oregon State. And let's just take advantage of the fact

821
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: that San Diego State is having a little bit of

822
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: an identity crisis. They're throwing more than they should. Defensively,

823
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: they don't have the athletes that they usually do. I

824
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: thought the transfer portal era was gonna make San Diego

825
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: State even stronger. That has not been the case. So

826
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm I'm rocking the over and Oregon State minus twenty

827
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: four and a half.

828
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: All right, I am going to go with the So

829
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: UCLA scored thirty five points against them. Ucla start in

830
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: the freshman quarterback. They actually ran the football well as

831
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: well for two hundred and I'm taking the under here, Ralph,

832
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure if they score ten points against

833
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: Oregon State, I'm gonna take the under. And it's because

834
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be like forty two to ooh, forty

835
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: two to seven. That's a that's a loss. I am

836
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: going to take the over. Yes, yes, I'm gonna take

837
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: the over, and I'm gonna take Oregon State minus twenty

838
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: four and a half. Okay, all right, l oh sorry.

839
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: Washington State Wisconsin. Washington State thirty one, Wisconsin twenty two.

840
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: This is the second year in a row Washington State

841
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: has beat Wisconsin. So does this say more about where

842
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 2: Washington State's football is or where Wisconsin football is because

843
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: they were ranked nineteenth.

844
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: It's probably a little bit of both. Last year was

845
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: indicative that you probably needed to make a change, and

846
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: they did this year. I don't think Wisconsin's on their

847
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: footing yet. I did not like their game plan. They

848
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: had Braylen Allen, they barely used him.

849
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: It's weird seeing him throw the ball forty times a game.

850
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: Washington State looks much better this year than they did

851
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: last year. Infinitely better. Yes, I told you, I think

852
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: one place where we were not in agreement was I

853
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: to me, cam Ward last year was the worst production

854
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: that Washington State got for a quarterback in a decade.

855
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: But to me, he looked the most prototypical. He looked

856
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 3: like an NFL player. To me, this last game against

857
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: Wisconsin was the first time where I was like, felt

858
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: a little vindicated in that take because his decision making

859
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: was his stats weren't that greater. His decision making was

860
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: crazy he did not hesitate when it was time to

861
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: take off and run. Some of the throws he made

862
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 3: were like mind blowing getting the ball, and he kept

863
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 3: his composure when Wisconsin came back. He's getting the ball, you're.

864
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: Right and that and that was the issue that I

865
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: said last year was that was that they were having

866
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: trouble there. I mean, well, that he was having trouble there,

867
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: that he was having trouble getting the ball out on time,

868
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: which was causing significant problems for his pro potential and

869
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: everything else. Why should they still not running the ball? Great?

870
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: Only two and a half yards of carry? Yeah, which

871
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: is you know, as you get against these good, good teams,

872
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: if you want to be able to throw the you

873
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: have to be able to run it. And if you

874
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: can't run it efficiently, that creates a significant problem because

875
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: they're going to make you play left handed and make

876
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: you play with the hands with tie behind your back.

877
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: But this Washington State defense is really good. You have

878
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: to give them a lot of credit. Yeah, yeah, like it,

879
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: like it.

880
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: One interesting thing that happened in this game, and you

881
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: hate to see it when a team is two and

882
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: oh and they look like they're trending up is they

883
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: got a receiver. There's a lot of hype coming in.

884
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: His name's DT Sheffield. There was a part in the

885
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: game where cam Ward got rid of a ball to

886
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: hit Williams down the field and Dt Sheffield doubled back

887
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: on his route and broke the pass up and Williams

888
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: yelled at Sheffield on the field in front of everybody,

889
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: which can happen like key to the moment, passion whatever.

890
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 3: Sheffield only had two catches in the game and after

891
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: the game he quit the team. What yeah, they're two

892
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: and oh they're throwing the ball. Well, there's a lot

893
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 3: of promise and he got I don't know if it

894
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: has to do with the fact that he got yelled

895
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: at out there on the field in front of everybody,

896
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: or that he's not getting touches, or what's going on

897
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 3: in his life or whatever, but yeah, after the game,

898
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 3: one of their better receivers just quit.

899
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: That's see, this is part of Now we don't know

900
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: the entire story, however, though this is I think that

901
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna see this sort of thing happen more than

902
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: we ever have because there is a little bit of

903
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: not wanting to go through hard things or you know,

904
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: not liking it, and oh my gosh, I'm not getting

905
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: what I deserve. I'm not getting what I deserve, and

906
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm out of here. What's your alternative, buddy? You're just

907
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: not gonna play. I mean, it is better to play

908
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: and it not go like you want it to go

909
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: than to not play at all. Because you're not a professional,

910
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: you are not being paid you there's a finite amount

911
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: of eligibility that you have, So listen, bro, I don't

912
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: have any answers to all the things, but I do

913
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: know that you do have to fight through adversity in

914
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: sports and life and everything else. And some of these

915
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: people ain't willing to do that.

916
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: Agreed.

917
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Their next game up is against Northern Colorado and PAC

918
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: twelve network two o'clock FCS team. So thirty eight and

919
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: a half point spread, where are you at?

920
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put my faith in the PAC twelve

921
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: and say they hit it.

922
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: All right. Northern Colorado, let's see their middle middling big

923
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: sky team that up until recently, I'm not sure.

924
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: If he's still the coach was coached by Ed McCaffrey.

925
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, bro, they lost the Incarnate Word forty

926
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: two to seven, and they lost to Avonle and Christian

927
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: thirty one to eleven.

928
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: And incarnate word is where our guy came Ward came from.

929
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 3: So they're about to get a double dose.

930
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, no, sorry, not get the thut, just just

931
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: mark check all the boxes. What's the over under the over?

932
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no running again. So give me Washington

933
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: State minus thirty eight and a half. If they don't

934
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: win by thirty eight and a half, I will be

935
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: a little bit concerned. If we're being honest.

936
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 3: All right, we got UCLA next up, and I want

937
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: to admit after they're thirty five to ten win over

938
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: San Diego State. Dante Moore is the guy. He is

939
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: the guy I think they have. I think they got

940
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: three good quarterbacks, three very different quarterbacks, but three good quarterbacks.

941
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: It's a good problem to have in case Dante Morre

942
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: for any reason, can't finish out the season. I think

943
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: they're in good hands. He's the guy. But can the

944
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: run get because they've been running the hell out of

945
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: the ball. Can they keep up that production to keep

946
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: Dante Moore from feeling like he has to do too much?

947
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: That's that's the question, right is Because I believe that

948
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: they can I mean, is that the way that you

949
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: protect the young quarterback is by running the football and

950
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: playing good defense, and UCLA is doing that right now.

951
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: They made him very comfortable. San Diego State couldn't really

952
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: get to him. And if you notice they played Colin

953
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: Schlee instead of instead of Ethan Garber's for a little bit.

954
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: That's a good when you have a secure lead. That's

955
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 2: the perfect quarterback to be putting in the game because

956
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: he could run his ass off. Yeah, and he had

957
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: twelve carries for oh no, no, sorry that was that

958
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: was That was Carson Steele. Excuse me, excuse me. So yeah,

959
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: so this I wonder if this means that Ethan Garbers

960
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: is gonna grad transfer after this.

961
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that could use him, uh

962
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: that it'd be he can't can't. Yes, make sure he

963
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: graduates though, because the NCAA rules on those double transfers.

964
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I mean it's I still think he

965
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: could be very good quarterbacks somewhere for somebody.

966
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally totally agree. Totally agree. Now, UCLA and

967
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: we talked about them recently. They got a stable of

968
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: running backs, TJ. Harden, Carson Steel. They ran the ball

969
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: thirty nine times for two hundred and fifty four yards,

970
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: and they stopped the run really well, only one point

971
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: nine yards to carry on thirty three.

972
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: Teams still have Colson Yankof. By the way, dude.

973
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: Why was Colson Yankoff returning kicks? I don't know I

974
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: saw him, but I was like, what that that's your

975
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: kickoff returner? Dude. They must have some analytics.

976
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: He's not stopping till he plays every position on the

977
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: field at least once.

978
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 2: Bright That's wild, all right. So they played North Carolina

979
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: Central this week on PAC twelve network at two pm,

980
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: thirty eight and a half spread. Give me UCLA.

981
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, respect to NC Central, but the HBCU competition out

982
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: here is not what it was a year ago. So

983
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: I think UCLA's a smart play here.

984
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: All right. Mississippi State thirty one, Arizona twenty four in overtime.

985
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: And we talked about this this game, Ralph, and what

986
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: I was afraid of happening actually happened, which was Jadeen

987
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: Delora throwing the ball to the other team.

988
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: Well, did you think it was gonna happen four hundred times?

989
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: That's the way Jaden DeLaura does. He's he's a blow

990
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: up guy. Like it's it's either really good, clean game

991
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: or you're just like what the are you doing?

992
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: He reminds me of like storage wars where people just

993
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: bid on what and like one one one day you

994
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: could open up the storage locker that you bought and

995
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: it's all grandma's jewelry, and the next day it's just

996
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: like old kitty litter that someone didn't want to throw

997
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: out out and he had a kitty litter game. You

998
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: know what's crazy. He's also the only reason they were

999
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: in this game. He's the reason they were.

1000
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 2: Out of its Jr. Smith, he's JR. Smith. He'll throw

1001
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: you in the game and then throw you right out

1002
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: of the game, like where Jr. Smith with the Nuggets.

1003
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: He would shoot you in the game and then shoot

1004
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: you right back out and then shoot you back at it.

1005
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: Because he was for forty six for three forty seven,

1006
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: two touchdowns and four picks.

1007
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he was. He was all over the place.

1008
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: Mississippi State probably should have won this game by a million.

1009
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: They had to go to overtime to do it. And

1010
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: my favorite thing of the football season happened in this game.

1011
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: The halftime interview of Mississippi State's head coach. They asked

1012
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 3: him like, hey, at some point you think maybe you're

1013
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: gonna put the ball in your quarterback's hands, and he

1014
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: was like, we got to play better in the second

1015
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: half and he's walked away.

1016
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: Dude.

1017
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: They did not want to throw.

1018
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 2: They did not. Phil Rodgers has only thrown the ball

1019
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: like in their two games, like forty forty some times

1020
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: on the season. And this, yesty, he did throw it, Beach.

1021
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: He's thrown it forty six times for three hundred and

1022
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: eighty nine yards. And dude, he threw the ball six

1023
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three times as a as a in

1024
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one for forty seven hundred yards, and then

1025
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: last year six hundred and ten times for almost four

1026
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: thousand yards. And now he's on pace to throw the ball.

1027
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: Oh what's that forty six forty six times, six two

1028
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: hundred seventy six times.

1029
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: Well, here's the crack. Zach Garnett's like, let's honor Mike

1030
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: Leach's legacy by taking the team he built to be

1031
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: this air raid juggernaut and do the exact opposite of

1032
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: anything Mike Leach would do. They're winning now, but they're

1033
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: gonna get messed up by LSU this week. In my opinion,

1034
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 3: they should have won this game by thirty and they

1035
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: had to go to overtime to do it, and they

1036
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: kept running, they and what surprised me was that Arizona's

1037
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 3: run defense held up really well yeah, and kept giving

1038
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: them opportunities to go out and get this game back.

1039
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: Arizona should have won this game had they had they

1040
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: not tried to give it away. But since they tried

1041
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: to give it away the fact that I had to

1042
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: go to overtime is insane to me. I don't even

1043
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: know if it says anything good about Arizona or something

1044
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: very very bad about Mississippi State, but I I do

1045
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: think that one of your five locks this week should

1046
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: be LSU by a million, because I think they're only

1047
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 3: favored by like eight and a half against Mississippi State.

1048
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, this is craziness. Hey, hey, and I like this.

1049
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: That will be one of the five games. I like,

1050
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: I do you have you have convinced me? But yeah,

1051
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: Arizona is now scaring me, Bro. They're scaring me because

1052
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: the Mississippi State is not that great. They play UTEP

1053
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: this week, which they should win, and then they got Stanford,

1054
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: which could be a win. I don't know if this

1055
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: team's a bowl game bowl team after that last game,

1056
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: and they're favored by seventeen and a half points against

1057
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: UTEP over under fifty six and a half.

1058
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: Where you're going, Ralph, I'm gonna take Arizona UTEP is down.

1059
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: Arizona's coming off the mess. I don't think Jayden Delora

1060
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: freaks out like that two games in a row, but

1061
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. That's the risk, right. It's like

1062
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: you're playing pop Go's the weasel with this. I think

1063
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: the music's gonna keep playing. I think Arizona's gonna have

1064
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 3: a good week. But gosh, man, he is irresponsible back there.

1065
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: Yep? Irresponsible is it? I am going to dude U

1066
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: tip though their games have been against against Jacksonville State,

1067
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: where they lost seventeen to fourteen. They beat Incarnate Word,

1068
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: which is weird because and then they lost to Northwestern,

1069
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: who's bad, thirty eight to seven. Yeh, So I am

1070
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: you know?

1071
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: Do you know who the coach of Jacksonville State is? No,

1072
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: off the top of your head, Oh, it's a former player. No, no, no, no,

1073
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: he's a former Pac twelve coach. Who mister rich Rodriguez,

1074
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 3: Rich rod.

1075
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: B Rich Royd stay in Floyd Bro. All right, I'm

1076
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna go with the over here because Arizona State will,

1077
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,959
Speaker 2: I mean, Arizona will have some nice blow up games offensively,

1078
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go with Arizona here. Minus is seventeen

1079
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: and a half points. Lord, have mercy. I'm I'm oh, Lord,

1080
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm doing this one.

1081
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: And what's the fifty six and a half. Yeah, I

1082
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: will take the over.

1083
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take that over as well.

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,880
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1085
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,280
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1086
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,520
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1087
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,320
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Speaker 2: All right, up next, Auburn at Cal Ralph. After seeing

1089
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: Cal score what fifty fifty five points in Week one, Oh,

1090
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: we were all excited. Oh the sunny Dyke's era is

1091
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: back plus defense, and then they ran into Auburn and

1092
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: Auburn I don't think it's necessarily particularly good this year,

1093
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: but Cal only managed ten points. Bro, ten points. That's

1094
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: not good. I'm just gonna say that. Granted, they held

1095
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: Auburn to fourteen, but Auburn's running this two quarterback system

1096
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: They clearly don't have it together yet. I don't even

1097
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: know what to make it as Cale team at this point.

1098
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: They blew it. They just blew it. They missed three

1099
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: field goals, so that's nine points right there.

1100
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: Yep.

1101
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: They they made a field goal that they had called

1102
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: back due to a penalty, and then they gave up

1103
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: the ball on a turnover on downs, so that's twelve.

1104
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 3: And I think they turned the ball over in Auburn territory. Yeah, so,

1105
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 3: I mean, just a horrific performance by this offense. I

1106
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: said coming into this game that the best thing about

1107
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: this Cal team was their interior push. Well, their offensive

1108
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 3: captain center Matthew Kendrick out for the season now, and

1109
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: still still with all of those mishaps, they still had

1110
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: plenty of opportunity to win this game, except for that

1111
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: on one drive in the second half, Auburn's Rivaldo Fairweather

1112
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: was the best player on Earth, and he caught a

1113
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: long pass on third and like seventeen, and then he

1114
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: caught a touchdown pass and that ended up being the

1115
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: difference Col's offense, like four yards per pass attempt across

1116
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 3: two different quarterbacks. Why Sam Jackson didn't start the game,

1117
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if they were going to put him

1118
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: in for several quarters. I'm not sure what they issue

1119
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: was there.

1120
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just why you wouldn't just start him instead

1121
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: of being Ben Finley? Because Ben Finley was seven four

1122
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 2: to eleven for thirty four yards and then you put

1123
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: in Sam Jackson and he goes fourteen for twenty seven,

1124
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: basically fifty percent for one to twenty six and zero touchdowns,

1125
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: two picks. So you didn't get great quarterback play. And

1126
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: that's the part that is I guess concerning to me.

1127
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: And they ran the ball forty times though they had

1128
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 2: seventy eight offensive plays, and you averaged two point eight

1129
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: yards of rush and you averaged four yards to throw

1130
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: per completion. That is the definition of struggle bus, bro,

1131
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: That is the definition of struggle bus. Offensively.

1132
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: I don't know the actual official count, but my personal

1133
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: count was six times in Auburn territory for zero points.

1134
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, they were staying down there. And yes, they

1135
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: got hosed on that fumble call and all of that.

1136
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: But this Auburn team is confusing too, because they beat

1137
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: you Mass. They scored fifty nine points, gave up fourteen

1138
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: against you Mass, and then came right back in fourteen

1139
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: to ten. So I think that we got to figure

1140
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: out a lot about both of these teams that we

1141
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 2: don't know yet, because we don't know how good Auburn is.

1142
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: Because Auburn could turn out to be super good this year,

1143
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: and then that would mean potentially that Cal's defense is

1144
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: really good. But I don't think that Auburn's defense, well,

1145
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: Auburn's offense is particularly good this year.

1146
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm with you and Cal. You know they got they

1147
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 3: got what should be a gimmey against Idaho coming up.

1148
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: But Idaho's got one of the bests in the country.

1149
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: Are you sure that that's a gimme? No? Idah hop

1150
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: beat who the Idaho beat last week?

1151
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I know they're undefeated. I know Hayden

1152
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: Hatten's one of the best receivers in the country. I

1153
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: know he threw a touchdown.

1154
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: Is they beaten Nevada last week thirty three to six? Yeah,

1155
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: So so the question is, wait, is Hayden hadn't a

1156
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: what what what years he because then we need to start, Oh,

1157
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: he's a junior, so we can start for predicting which

1158
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 2: school he'll play at next year.

1159
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 3: Well, he so up until this year, he was a

1160
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: tight end and I've I actually said on this podcast

1161
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: last year we made a list of like players you'd

1162
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: want to see PAC twelve teams go out and get.

1163
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: I mentioned him several times. He lost weight to be

1164
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: to project more as a receivers and yeah, and Idaho

1165
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: has turned him into like a celebrity out there, so

1166
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: he he decided to stick around. Yeah, I think he

1167
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: could have left before this year. So it's kind of

1168
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: it's kind of interesting, and they're putting all of their

1169
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: resources into promoting the heck out of him. It'll be

1170
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 3: interesting to see him up against a legit defense who

1171
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 3: did give up a couple of big plays to a

1172
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: tight end. Hatton's not a tight end anymore. But I'm

1173
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: very curious to see if cal should just take care

1174
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: of business. This shouldn't even be a thing. But now

1175
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: without I think they're gonna be able to run the ball. Well,

1176
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: I think they'll get a win. But thirty eight and

1177
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: a half points, which is the line we set for

1178
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 3: FBS FCS matchups, No not happening.

1179
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: No, oh, there is not a snowballs chance in hell.

1180
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm taking the under. Well, if there was an under,

1181
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: I would take it, and I would take Idaho and

1182
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: true and truth be told, Yes, I would be shocked

1183
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: if Idaho one, But I would not be shocked if

1184
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Idaho one, If that makes sense.

1185
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 3: I would be shocked if they won. But anything I'm

1186
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 3: looking at probably in my head a two touchdown win,

1187
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 3: maybe seventeen points assuming their kicker can hit anything.

1188
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: Boom, there you go.

1189
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 3: Whoo.

1190
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: All right, here's a hard conversation here. So do you

1191
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: want to go to the Arizona State conversation or do

1192
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: you want to just go to Utah Stanford so we

1193
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: can get all the easy stuff out the way first.

1194
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: Well, USC Stanford's definitely easier conversation. So let's let's have

1195
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: the easy conversation now, please, okay.

1196
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: Because we know that you'd like to run away from

1197
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: our conversations. Not so much. Well, well, it depends on

1198
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: about about what USC fifty six Stanford ten. Bro What

1199
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: are we supposed to say about this? Stanford had fell

1200
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: like a high school game? Felt like a high school game,

1201
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: did it not?

1202
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

1203
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this this was I amg playing against whoever

1204
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: they played against yesterday? When it I'm surprised they that

1205
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 2: they get let over the border after what happened, they

1206
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: were up ninety six ninety six nothing at halftime. This

1207
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 2: is yeah as this game felt. It felt like two

1208
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: teams that aren't even in the same conference playing against

1209
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: each other. This felt like Oregon State playing against UC Davis.

1210
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: And I know that that sounds mean and it sounds harsh,

1211
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: but I'm not joking.

1212
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: It was. It was no doubt. Ten eleven minutes in,

1213
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: right when it hit twenty one nothing, it was like, Oh,

1214
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: this is gonna be They're gonna pour it on.

1215
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. It was forty nine to three at halftime.

1216
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how they stopped scoring, right, Yeah.

1217
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 3: I mean I saw there was a couple of Miller

1218
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: Moss deep balls. I was like, oh, this is about

1219
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 3: to get disrespectful. But USC did let off the gas.

1220
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: That would be an understatement letting off the gas. They

1221
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: needed to put on a running clock in this game.

1222
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: So Stanford ran the ball forty one times for two

1223
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 2: hundred and nine yards at five yards of clip. EJ.

1224
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 2: Smith ten yards of carry, Filkins twelve yards of carry.

1225
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: So there are some things about this US even though

1226
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: they dominated, there are some things that are a little

1227
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:12,919
Speaker 2: bit concerning.

1228
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: Still with yeah, every So there were four big plays

1229
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: for Stanford. They were all off left tackle, which means

1230
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 3: I had to learn the name James Pagarelk. I hope

1231
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying that right.

1232
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they left tackle. EJ. Smith went for twenty nine,

1233
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: Filkins went for fifty nine, and Cedric Irvin went for

1234
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: a dub.

1235
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: And EJ had another twenty plus yard run off the

1236
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: left side too. All four of them were pretty much

1237
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: looked like the same play, all the left sideline. They

1238
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: got a big left tackle. He's like six ' eight

1239
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 3: from Virginia. Everyone in his family's played sports at some level,

1240
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 3: so Stanford has something going for him. But this was man,

1241
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: This was a beatdown. And the funny thing about USC

1242
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 3: is they have so much talent. They've been up by

1243
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: so much in these games that they're still able to

1244
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 3: spread the ball around make sure everybody gets a touch.

1245
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: Dorian Singer found the end zone, Brendan Rice found the

1246
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: end zone that you know, they get the freshman in there,

1247
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: Deuce Robinson, you know, catching passes. And then your guy,

1248
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: Zach Branch had another punt return to add to his

1249
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: to add to his award winning reel. He's already packed

1250
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 3: twelve Freshman of the Year for sure.

1251
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: It's not even close. Now, all he's got to do

1252
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 2: is make it through half the season. It'll it'll it'll

1253
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: be like when Drake London won Pack twelve Player of

1254
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: the Year and he missed the last four games. It'll

1255
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: be kind of like that. H Yeah, he's done and

1256
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: to be all in all honesty, he's going to be

1257
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: Pack twelve. He's going to be first team All Packed

1258
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: twelve as a return specialist for sure, no doubt. Because

1259
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 2: you can't tackle this kid in a phone booth.

1260
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: Bro he's I guess he's technically not a freshman, is he?

1261
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: Why?

1262
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: Because he was there? He was there and was he

1263
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 3: there in twenty twenty two? No, Okay, his bio says

1264
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 3: he enrolled in spring twenty twenty two. I don't know

1265
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 3: why it says that he's a freshman. Yeah, maybe they're

1266
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: maybe his bio is wrong. Yeah, he said he graduated

1267
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: a semester early. They must mean they must mean twenty

1268
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 3: three correct, Okay? Yeah. I was like no, I'm like yeah,

1269
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 3: because I saw him play for Gorman last year, So.

1270
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: I was like, I know for a fact, who's playing

1271
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: against good playing for Gorman? Last duel enrolled. Dude, that

1272
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: was a win, bro, that was a recruiting win. This

1273
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 2: kid is the Anthony Thomas. He might beat Tyreek Hill.

1274
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what he is, but he's special.

1275
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it had to feel really good for usc

1276
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 3: fans to, like, just after fifteen years of Stanford being

1277
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: kind of a thorn in their side, to just beat

1278
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: their ass on the way out had.

1279
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: To feel not even just without a doubt. Forty nine

1280
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: to three at halftime. And next up USC as home

1281
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: versus Zack State.

1282
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 3: That's uh, Stanford US got the week off.

1283
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: Because yeah, one of one of their two bye weeks,

1284
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: then the other bye week just so happens to be

1285
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: right before the Pack twelve championship. I hate that, but anyways, Uh,

1286
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: Stanford plays versus sax State on PAC twelve network. How

1287
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: sax State this year.

1288
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 3: Not great? They lost their running back and their head

1289
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: coach right.

1290
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah coaches at Stanford right now.

1291
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 3: So uh they're two.

1292
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: And oh they beat Texas A and M Commerce, which

1293
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 2: is that that team is bad. That team is super bad.

1294
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: And uh they beat Nickel State at Nicholson.

1295
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see if I recognize any players off

1296
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: this roster in the age of the transfer portal usually

1297
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:53,959
Speaker 3: will know a few.

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, so I know at least a couple of

1299
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: players on their roster, Okay, Jack Carson Conklin because he

1300
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: went to Corona Centennial last year and he worked out

1301
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: with Damon for a little bit.

1302
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 3: And then former Nevada quarterback Cayden Bennett's on the team.

1303
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ontario Smith Junior. So I recognize it leading

1304
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: of those players.

1305
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a I know one. I do know Ontario

1306
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 3: Smith Junior. But other than that, it's Cayden Bennett, Caleb

1307
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 3: Higgins that was at Cal he's out there. But yeah,

1308
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that this should be if it ends

1309
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: up being a contest for Stanford.

1310
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely could. This could end up as a contest.

1311
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I'm telling you this right now. Book

1312
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 2: it the thirty eight and a half points. Give give

1313
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: me sax State.

1314
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 3: All right? Do you know five foot five, one hundred

1315
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 3: and forty six pound sack State running back Elijah Gable

1316
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 3: from Sierra Canyon. What they got a five foot five

1317
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 3: running back that's one hundred and fifty pounds from Sierra Canyon.

1318
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 2: His name is what hold on I'm going I'm on

1319
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: the roster. Elijah Gable.

1320
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: Elijah Gable.

1321
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh, that's CJ. Gable's little brother. Yes, or is a

1322
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 2: cousin one of one of the two. Yes, he's He's

1323
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: related to CJ. Gable, who used to play at usc

1324
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: Okay and was a running back as well. No.

1325
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: I always loved clicking on I love clicking on these

1326
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: these rosters just to see if there's any high school

1327
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 3: players that we recognize. Here's another one. This man looks

1328
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: like he's forty seven years old, but it says he's

1329
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: a freshman, number seventy. Justin Davis six foot six, three

1330
01:16:54,200 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pounds from Oaks Christian. That's a big boy,

1331
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 3: three eighty What wait, his name is?

1332
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: He's on the D.

1333
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: Line, number seventy O lineman Justin Davis from Oakes Christian

1334
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: six six, three eighty.

1335
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't see him. Oh Oh, I see him.

1336
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: I see him. I see him. Let me see his pickure.

1337
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: That's gotta be the only time anybody's ever said that

1338
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: about him. I can't see you.

1339
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't know. That kid is humongous, Lord have mercy.

1340
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: He's like the kid. Uh yeah, So Anyways, Stanford has

1341
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: to get it together, bro, because they can't lose this game.

1342
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: They cannot lose this game.

1343
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and I'm sure that Andy Thompson, who

1344
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: is the is the head coach there, worked under Stanford's

1345
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 3: head coach, so I'm sure he's I'm sure I'm sure

1346
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: that the locker room is excited to have a crack

1347
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: at Stanford.

1348
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: YEP.

1349
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,600
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1350
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1351
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,200
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1352
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,000
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1353
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: All Right, last game up Oklahoma State twenty seven, Arizona

1354
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: State fifteen, and Arizona State didn't score a point in

1355
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: the second half in a game that you thought that

1356
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: they might have control of. And uh, yeah, I am

1357
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: this is that was a little bit concerning for me,

1358
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: and I thought it raised some fair questions about I mean,

1359
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 2: but when you do have a young quarterback in all right,

1360
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: he is going to be put in the fire. There

1361
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: are going to be some ups and downs. But with

1362
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: those ups and downs, you gotta find him away. Because

1363
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: he didn't play well in the second half against Southern

1364
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: Utah and then the same thing again this week. So

1365
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: there's some thing that's going on between the break at

1366
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 2: halftime where he's losing some momentum. So Kenny Dillingham and

1367
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: crew have to figure have to figure that out because

1368
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 2: if not, they're gonna be there. They've won the one

1369
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: game that they're gonna win this year.

1370
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: Well, here is what Kenny Dillingham had to say. He

1371
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: compared Jayden Rashata to truffle, and he said, it's good

1372
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 3: on fries, it's not good on everything. So you have

1373
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 3: this expensive thing and you have to find a way

1374
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 3: to support it. So who said that, Kenny Dillingham, Dude,

1375
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 3: he ain't.

1376
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: Lying about that. I went to a Oh what is

1377
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 2: what's the name of that chef, the one of the

1378
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: young good looking chefs that you and I went to

1379
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: his restaurant out here called Gwenn So it's called gwyn

1380
01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: g w e N and I went there and I

1381
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: love truffle and I love whiskey, and they had a

1382
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 2: an old fashion, a truffled old fashion. That thing was

1383
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: one of the worst things I've ever drank in my

1384
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 2: whole life. I couldn't even finish the drink. I was like,

1385
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: oh God, why would you do this shut out to

1386
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: chef possibly like.

1387
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 3: It shut out to chef Curtistone, who gets Yes, incredible.

1388
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: Job, Yes, Curtis Thone who the rest of the food

1389
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: was amazing, but that drink was horrendous. So yes, Kenny

1390
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: Dillingham is one hundred percent truffle. That it is fantastic,

1391
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: it's expensive, it's it's it enhances a lot of things.

1392
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: But you either put too much of it or put

1393
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: it on the wrong thing, and you might as well

1394
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: have put the you know, maneure on it.

1395
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Okay. So what he's saying, though, is the truffle's not

1396
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 3: the problem. The old fashions the problem. And I don't know,

1397
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 3: I just I don't know how to feel about it.

1398
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: I kind of, you know, I support Kenney Dillingham. I

1399
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: want him to do well. I think that he's an

1400
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 3: incredible hire, But at this point, I just disagree that

1401
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 3: Jade Rashada is the right person at the right time.

1402
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 3: You have somebody on the roster. You know, you're having

1403
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 3: a hard time protecting Jade Rashota because the o lines

1404
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: beat up. You saw a glass didn't play Emmett Bowl

1405
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 3: broke his leg horrifically in this game. He's out for

1406
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: the season, so you know you got you got an

1407
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: offensive line that is kind of patchwork and is going

1408
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: to get healthier as the year goes on, and basically

1409
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 3: saying like, well, you know we are we got to

1410
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 3: get a running game going, We got to find out

1411
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 3: a way to protect him, or or you have a

1412
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 3: quarterback on the roster who is a seven on seven

1413
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: god who does everything that he does in under three seconds.

1414
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: You have not been able to complete a pass between

1415
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: five and fifteen yards in the last two games, and

1416
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 3: you saw what he could do last year when they

1417
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 3: beat Washington and when he had four hundred yards offense.

1418
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 3: Trenton borga exactly so much question. Here's my deal. I

1419
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 3: want to win now. I want to win now.

1420
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: Want to ask you that's what I was going to

1421
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: ask you.

1422
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I want to win every game. I want to

1423
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: win now. And the players that stayed you're Elijah Badgers,

1424
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 3: You're Jail and Conyers, both of which who only have

1425
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 3: six catches each through two weeks. They want to win now.

1426
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 3: They want to get opportunities to catch the ball right now.

1427
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: And you're trying to develop a freshman quarterback, a twenty

1428
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 3: year old freshman. He's only one year younger than Anthony Richardson,

1429
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 3: who's in the NFL right a twenty year old freshman quarterback.

1430
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: You're trying to develop him right now. And even I

1431
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: find myself when they went for it on fourth and

1432
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 3: down like three different times and never got any of

1433
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: them in this game. Every single time they went for

1434
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 3: it on fourth down, in the back of my head,

1435
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I guess it doesn't matter anyway,

1436
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 3: might as well go for it every time. So like

1437
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: it's creeping into my thoughts that there's no bowl and

1438
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: that none of this matters and that you could just

1439
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: do whatever you want. I'm sure it's creeping into other

1440
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: fans and coaches and stuff like that. Otherwise, why are

1441
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 3: you going for it on fourth down from your own

1442
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 3: thirty when you're still in the game. Why are you

1443
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 3: going to set Oklahoma State up for a score so

1444
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: you can't can't come back, especially when you haven't been

1445
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 3: able to move the ball in the second half. You

1446
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: have several coaches all over the conference rotating quarterbacks to

1447
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 3: try to figure out the best fit. You were playing

1448
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: against Oklahoma States team that played three different quarterbacks two

1449
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: weeks in a row to try to figure out the

1450
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: best thing. But you believe wholeheartedly in your freshman who

1451
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 3: didn't even get reps up until two weeks before the

1452
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,879
Speaker 3: season started. He was supposed to be the third string quarterback.

1453
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 3: You believe in him so much that you won't even

1454
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 3: try anything else. The offense is stalled out, the running

1455
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 3: game's not working. Nobody that you convinced to stay back

1456
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 3: at wide receiver is getting any opportunities. And I want

1457
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 3: to rock with Kenny Dillingham no matter what. But at

1458
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: the same time, it's not like Trenton Borga is an

1459
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 3: unknown commodity. We saw what he could do, yeah, and

1460
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 3: he did it pretty much in every game.

1461
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Isn't Isn't this a major problem though, because you have

1462
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: already inserted Jaden Rashada right, and by doing so, you

1463
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: were either saying one of two things. Either he gives

1464
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: us the best chance to win right now, or we

1465
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: believe that in a few weeks of experience he will

1466
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: be better than that. Because of that experience and the

1467
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: growing pains, that he will be better than what Trenton

1468
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: Borgay or anybody else on the roster could be, and

1469
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: we will be much better off halfway through the season.

1470
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: Eight ranked teams on your schedule.

1471
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: Now, No, no, no, I'm saying that when you make

1472
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 2: that choice, that you're saying one of those two.

1473
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 3: Things, right, And I'm saying the second thing could be

1474
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 3: applicable if there weren't eight ranked teams on your schedule,

1475
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 3: growing pains are going to be very, very painful.

1476
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other part of it is is the

1477
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 2: other decision that could be factored in is are you

1478
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: trying to win right now because you don't have a

1479
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: Bowl or are you trying to gear up for next year?

1480
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 3: Right? And if I'm saying that, if it's in my

1481
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 3: head every time they play Madden and just go forward

1482
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 3: on fourth down, then it's got to be in their

1483
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: head too that like, ye, what could it hurt if

1484
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 3: we go for Ford on fourth and we get it,

1485
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: we look smart. If we don't get it, like, no

1486
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: loss matters, That's what. That's this weird thing where you

1487
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 3: just have this safety net. But I think playing Jay

1488
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 3: and Rashada is a way to say, like to players

1489
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: all over the country, come be part of this. This

1490
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 3: is going to be your quarterback. But players all of

1491
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 3: the country they want to win, So they're also looking

1492
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 3: at Colorado right now, Colorado's moving the ball. They're looking

1493
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 3: at UCLA with a freshman quarterback in place. Ucla is

1494
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 3: moving the ball. They're looking at other Pac twelve schools

1495
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: who don't have their quarterback situation completely settled. And Utah

1496
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 3: has already said we're going to take do what it

1497
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 3: takes to win. Now, we're going to make a change.

1498
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Cal has gone back and forth on quarterbacks twice, part

1499
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,839
Speaker 3: of its injury related, but there's still trying to figure.

1500
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: It out out right. If you take Rashada out, this

1501
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: is where you have to make the right decision at first,

1502
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: because if you take him out now, you are messing

1503
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: with his confidence a little.

1504
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 3: Bit, unless you take him out for Drew Pine. And

1505
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: this is my problem with the direction that Arizona State's

1506
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: going right now. They've set it up in the media

1507
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: that they have an out to get Jade and Rashada

1508
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 3: out of there if he's not ready. As long as

1509
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 3: they make the switch to Drew Pine, that's the only

1510
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 3: way you can justify pulling Jayden Rashada. But Drew Pine

1511
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: doesn't give you your best chance to win. Trenton Borgae

1512
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 3: does cannot justify.

1513
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: Removing why would you go to Drew Pine.

1514
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: Here's my theory. Pete Damil has had everything on ASU

1515
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 3: since Kenny Dillingham has taken over. Kenny Dillingham. I can't

1516
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 3: say it's him, but somebody within the program is using

1517
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 3: Pete Damil to get it out there before anybody else

1518
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 3: that Jayden Rashada is going to be the starting quarterback.

1519
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: Get it out there before anybody else that there was

1520
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 3: a self imposed bull band. And the third thing that

1521
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 3: Pete Damill had before anyone else is that Drew Pine's

1522
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 3: going to be healthy sometime in the next week and

1523
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 3: a half. Why would Pete Theamill need to even be

1524
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 3: talking about Drew Pine. Why Why would it even matter

1525
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 3: if Jayden Rashad is your quarterback? Why would Pete Damill

1526
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 3: be putt stuff out about Drew Pine. It's because you're

1527
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: one out. You're one out with Jaden Rashatta. If he

1528
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 3: continues to struggle, is to make the switch to Drew Pine.

1529
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 3: And I don't like that. Trenton Borgat is the one

1530
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: that's caught up in this because you took the risk.

1531
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 3: And if he had come out and he had looked good,

1532
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: and he has looked good in the first half of

1533
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: two games and he's looked unplayable in the second half

1534
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 3: of two games. If he came out and looked good,

1535
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 3: then you have nothing to worry about for the rest

1536
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 3: of the season. But if he came out and he

1537
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 3: didn't look good, then you have to be able to

1538
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 3: swallow your pride and say, maybe I made the wrong call,

1539
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 3: but the wrong call happens to everybody.

1540
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: Drew Pine's a sophomore. So if you put.

1541
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 3: Drew sophomore, he's said he's a sophomore like like I like,

1542
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 3: I'm team He's a draft eligible sophomore.

1543
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So so being a sophomore, that means that

1544
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Rashada could have to sit for potentially three more years.

1545
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: That means that. And I talked to Kenny Dilliham. He

1546
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 2: told me this out of his own mouth, that his

1547
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 2: plan for his quarterbacks is is to uh because I

1548
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 2: think Bear Bachmeier is committed in twenty five, is to

1549
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: take a but oh oh yeah, yeah, Butters, yeah, Butters

1550
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: is committed for twenty twenty five, and that it's important

1551
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: to get your quarterback right because he doesn't want to

1552
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 2: recruit a quarterback every single year. He wants to do

1553
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: it every other year to keep and then bring in

1554
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: a walk on as well, to keep the room like

1555
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: salvageable the way you always have a decent room. Yeah,

1556
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: and that way, because he was like, if you have

1557
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: him stacked up too much, guys will hop into portal.

1558
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 2: I actually think that he's gonna see that as a

1559
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 2: flawed strategy only because like maybe you recruit a five

1560
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 2: star or one one year, maybe you get a three

1561
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: starter next year, then try to recruit up again. But

1562
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 2: your three star could turn out to be your guy though,

1563
01:29:55,080 --> 01:30:00,759
Speaker 2: So it's so it's tricky. But he's worri about attrition

1564
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 2: in the in the room, and I get it, and

1565
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: it's a smart idea, but I think an actual application

1566
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: because players do get hurt sometimes and because you have

1567
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: to have some type of depth in your room. But

1568
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 2: it's harder to keep depth in your room now with

1569
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 2: the transfer porter at the quarterback position, I think he's

1570
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: going to have to take one every single year. I

1571
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,440
Speaker 2: just don't know how you do it otherwise.

1572
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, at Oregon State, at Oregon State, they took bo

1573
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: Nicks over Ty Thompson at Oregon Yet Oregon, Yeah, and

1574
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 3: it worked out to Bo Nicks over Ty Thompson worked

1575
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: out there at Florida State. They had the quarterback controversy.

1576
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 3: They had three different guys that were playing. His guy

1577
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 3: was Jordan Travis, and Jordan Travis has put himself in

1578
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 3: a position where people are mentioning him next to the

1579
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 3: H word. So you know, he has a resume where

1580
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 3: he can talk to recruits and he can get good quarterbacks.

1581
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: But there's going to be a bump in the road

1582
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 3: of that resume if the risk that he took starting

1583
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 3: the youngest quarterback when that quarterback thought he was coming

1584
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 3: in to be a third stringer ends up not not

1585
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 3: working out. You have to be able to move the

1586
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 3: ball period like you you have to, and so right now,

1587
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: they've had some explosive plays in the first half and

1588
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: in the second half, they would have been better off

1589
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 3: punting on first down.

1590
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Like bro, it wasn't that bad.

1591
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 3: You were going forward on four to three times and

1592
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: you're not getting any of those times. So you're giving

1593
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 3: them the ball in good field position every single time.

1594
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 3: You'd have been better off with your defense on the field.

1595
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 3: So your offense is playing offense for the other team

1596
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: when they give them the ball at the.

1597
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: Thirty Okay, let's okay, I want to be as objective

1598
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: as possible, right, So in the in the second half,

1599
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 2: hold up? So yeah, So the third quarter, so the

1600
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 2: end of half, Arizona State got the ball back. They

1601
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: went thirty five yards on six plays and turn the

1602
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: ball over on downs. They turned the.

1603
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 3: Ball over on how long are punts?

1604
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: Forty plus yards?

1605
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm right, so far.

1606
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 2: So they turned the ball over on the Oklahoma State

1607
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: forty so they were in plus territory. Okay. Then the

1608
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 2: next drive five plays, fourteen yards for a pick.

1609
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 3: Better you'd have been better off punting.

1610
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 2: And then the next drive six plays for fifteen yards,

1611
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: which they did, punt, so yes, and punt it. The

1612
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 2: next drive three plays for six yards and a punt.

1613
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 3: Might as well punt it on first down.

1614
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 2: The next drive four plays turnover on downs.

1615
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 3: You definitely should have punted on first down.

1616
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 2: And you turned it over on downs on your oh

1617
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 2: my god, on your own thirty three.

1618
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 3: That's what I said.

1619
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 2: They went forward on fourth and two in their own.

1620
01:32:58,680 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 2: Oh Lord, have mercy.

1621
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to deal with.

1622
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: That a lot at Oregon, except for they were in

1623
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: a better position like they were dominating people and getting

1624
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 2: fourth downs.

1625
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 3: Okay, you mean they weren't down five points, yes, down

1626
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 3: five points. I would have punted, yes, so you see

1627
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying here. Oh wait, yeah, and it was

1628
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 3: still six minutes to go in the game. Yeah, I

1629
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 3: would have punted, and then Arizona and then Oklahoma State

1630
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 3: scores of course, and then the next drive, which you

1631
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 3: have to they go for it on seven plays thirty

1632
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 3: seven yards and they turned it over. So yeah, the

1633
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 3: second half was not good. Let's just say that. Yeah,

1634
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 3: the score would have not been I do not believe

1635
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 3: the score would have been a twelve point Oklahoma State

1636
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 3: win if as you punted on first down every single time.

1637
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and it would have because you would have given

1638
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 2: them so many more play bro. It's the amount of

1639
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 2: they would have had.

1640
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 3: They would have had the same amount of possessions in

1641
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 3: worse territory because the interception and the one that happened

1642
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 3: on the thirty three.

1643
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: No, just punt on third down, I mean on fourth down,

1644
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 2: like you're you're opposed to when your offense is struggling,

1645
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, because see I'm a big proponent of

1646
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 2: going for it on fourth down, except for when your

1647
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 2: offense is struggling, might elite like like they have been.

1648
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: Like at that point in time, you're not winning. It

1649
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 2: was third and one and they ended up in fourth

1650
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: and two. Then they went for it on fourth and two.

1651
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 2: I would have punted. But anyways, do.

1652
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 3: Think Arizona State would have been better in that second

1653
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,839
Speaker 3: half of Trenton Borg at quarterback?

1654
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 2: Are you are?

1655
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 3: Are?

1656
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: Are you asking me to be honest here?

1657
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm asking you to take everything you saw from

1658
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: trent borga last year, which was like throwing for four

1659
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 3: hundred yards in a game, and would he have been

1660
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 3: able to complete a few passes?

1661
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he would have been better in the second half.

1662
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: Rashoda was good in the first half though.

1663
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 3: No, he was fine on the first half of both games.

1664
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 2: But he so you got to fix. So you gotta

1665
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 2: fix halftime. Leave his ass out on the field at

1666
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: half time. Don't let him go to the locker room.

1667
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: Don't tell him, don't tell him it's the halftime.

1668
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 3: All right. Well that was We spent a lot of

1669
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 3: time talking about a loss of the team that I follow.

1670
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 3: So I feel terrible now, thank you?

1671
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: All right? So Pack twelve top the Pack twelve Power

1672
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Rankings and you your.

1673
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: Team was down nine late in the third. I just

1674
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 3: want to throw that out there. They almost lost.

1675
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 2: No, no, we didn't almost lose. There's no such thing

1676
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: as almost losing. You either win or you lose, all right,

1677
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 2: So Pack twelve power rankings, and how we do these

1678
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: is last week I made the rankings, and then Ralph

1679
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: got a chance to change two teams, and then I

1680
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: get a chance to go correct his mistake and and

1681
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 2: change two teams, and we ended up and those are

1682
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 2: our consensus rankings. This week, Ralph made the rankings, and

1683
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 2: I put out my pack to I put out my

1684
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 2: college football power rankings as they should be, and it

1685
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 2: came out like that, and it was pretty much the

1686
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 2: same order that Ralph did, considering that we had eight

1687
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 2: ranked teams, except for he had one difference than I had.

1688
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 2: So and so Ralph sent them over to me, and

1689
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 2: his ship was perfect. It was literally perfect. And I

1690
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: couldn't even argue he switched one that I didn't have.

1691
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 2: But I couldn't even argue. I was like, yeah, I

1692
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 2: can make I can make sense of that. So Ralph,

1693
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 2: good job. You made the PAC twelve power rankings this year,

1694
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 2: and they were spotted I'm well this week and they

1695
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 2: were spot on. All right, so USC number one? George,

1696
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 2: did you just change them with Oregon? Did you feel

1697
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 2: like that?

1698
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 3: Yes?

1699
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Yes, based upon what USC has done, they deserve to

1700
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 2: be number one in the power rankings. For people who

1701
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 2: are like he's not objective, Yes, I am Oregon two,

1702
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 2: Washington three, Oregon State four, Colorado five, Utah six, Washington

1703
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 2: State seven, Ucla eight, Cal nine, Arizona ten, Arizona State eleven,

1704
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 2: and Stanford twelve. I do think we're getting to a point,

1705
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: depending on what happens this weekend, that we might have

1706
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 2: to argue about eleven and twelve. But I digress.

1707
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 3: I feel good about the rankings. Though Utah could be

1708
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 3: number one or that could be number eight. It's it's

1709
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 3: a very strange situation there and not be very healthy.

1710
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 3: I hate to do this, I really hate to do

1711
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: this because I'm done talking about Arizona State. But we

1712
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 3: do have to go over this Fresno State minus three line.

1713
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:25,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for the purposes of the contest, So Fresno

1714
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 3: States three at ASU seven thirty kickoff FS one.

1715
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: I am going to oh man, see see this is

1716
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: a tough one. What's the over under a net.

1717
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 3: One uh over under in this game is the and

1718
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 3: a half.

1719
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so Fresno State already beat Perdue thirty nine thirty five,

1720
01:38:55,840 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: then they beat Eastern Washington thirty four thirty one. I'm

1721
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 2: taking him over Arizona State. I'm taking the Bulldogs to

1722
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 2: start three and oh with Jeff Tepbert and yeah, yeah,

1723
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,440
Speaker 2: they got a young, young quarterback who's pretty good.

1724
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not just pretty good. No. If o Knicks

1725
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 3: had declared Oregon was going all in on myke Keing, yep,

1726
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 3: I told you this, yep, key is he was u

1727
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: s f uh. He is from the state of Arizona. Yeah,

1728
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 3: I asked for one reason. Multiple time high school football

1729
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 3: champion out there he is. He's like a shark man,

1730
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 3: dead mine eyes. He has gotten purpose and it is

1731
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 3: to move them all down the field. He's just uh,

1732
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 3: And I don't he's gonna be coming home. He's gonna

1733
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 3: be playing in front friends and family against his old

1734
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 3: high school coach who is Arizona State's running backs coach.

1735
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna embarrass Arizona State. So I'm

1736
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 3: gonna take Fresno and hope that asks you and score

1737
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 3: enough to make the overhit.

1738
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, fifty and a half is tough because this

1739
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 2: could be like a thirty five to fifteen game. But

1740
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the I am going to take the under.

1741
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the under, but I'm still taking Fresno State.

1742
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 3: What I don't want to see. I don't want to

1743
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 3: see a quarterback from the State of Arizona who Arizona

1744
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 3: State didn't recruit put up three years pass and while

1745
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 3: Janivers Shot has another one for eleven second half. That's

1746
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 3: what I don't want to see. Some of my hope

1747
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 3: is to get stuff right from Shot this week, and

1748
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 3: fresh State's defense hasn't been good, so.

1749
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 2: Yep, so so you're saying there a chance? All right?

1750
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh and the final thing up, we had the Player

1751
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 2: of the Week contest this week. Your boy is three

1752
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,799
Speaker 2: and oh our.

1753
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 3: Ralph three points to nothing.

1754
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry, yes, so he took. So Ralph took

1755
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 2: Jaden Ott who was twenty two touches eighty four yards

1756
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 2: and a touchdown, and me I got Damien Martinez seven

1757
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 2: carries for one oh four, including a sixty four yard touchdown.

1758
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Baby breeze through that one, breeze through it.

1759
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 3: All. Right, yeah, thank you, Thank you Cal's offense for

1760
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 3: doing absolutely nothing for you.

1761
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,759
Speaker 2: All right, So who are you taking this week?

1762
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 3: Me? Uh, it's a tough week because there's not a

1763
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 3: lot of you. You could really stat pad. I feel

1764
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 3: like this week because there's a lot of lower level competition,

1765
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 3: I need points. So going to the quarterback to catch

1766
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 3: up to you is probably not the best idea, but

1767
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to burn a player that could be

1768
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 3: good later.

1769
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I am going to say, God.

1770
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 3: This is tough. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. Let

1771
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 3: me go with your guy. Let me switch it up

1772
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 3: and go with Damien Martinez two years last week get

1773
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 3: a win?

1774
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 2: Okay, so oh San Diego State, so he actually might

1775
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: get a decent amount of carries in his game. All right,

1776
01:42:54,920 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 2: So I am going to come back this Oh this

1777
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 2: feels risky. Oh, this feels risky because I really don't

1778
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 2: like taking quarterbacks because that's that feels like low hanging fruit.

1779
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 3: So you're gonna tell you this point, you just got

1780
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 3: to try to sit on your lead. You want to do.

1781
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: Yes, So part of me to sit on my lead.

1782
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'll just take Michael Pennock Junior.

1783
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Or I could be frisky and take Jadeen Delora against UTEP.

1784
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 3: That could be good. It also could be the worst

1785
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 3: you've ever made in your life. That's or experience.

1786
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going with Michael Pennis Junior. Man, I'm

1787
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 2: going with Mike Michael Penick Jr. I'm taking a quarterback.

1788
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 2: Even though I only get one point for it. Feel

1789
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 2: safe for that.

1790
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 3: I feel safe for there, all right, feel safe and

1791
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 3: the Watchington quarterbacks armed. I'll tell you.

1792
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Hey, and this will be the one game that he

1793
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 2: turns into a pumpkin his whole career.

1794
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 3: All right, Well, yeah, it's we gotta have like entity

1795
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 3: rules on. It's gotta be like four points for a

1796
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 3: PAS touchdown or something, because it's gonna be tough with

1797
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 3: a quarterback. But I gotta I gotta catch up.

1798
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: So yep, Well you guys. I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amasdon.

1799
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 2: This is the PAC twelve Apostles. Peace out, catch you

1800
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 2: guys later.