1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Ramer and Michael and podcast. Hey guys, 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: welcome to wind Down this week. Kind of a bit 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: of a somber um past few days here in Nashville, Tennessee. Obviously. Um, well, 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, there was a 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: really bad tornado actually, which I didn't even know this, babe. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: It was the deadliest tornado event in the nation since 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: exactly one year ago, when twenty three people were killed, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: um in Lee County, Alabama. And I just was reading 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: this and it's not to like jump in with the sadness, 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: but um, at least twenty people are dead after a 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: powerful and fast moving storm cut across middle Tennessee. Um. 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: It was a hundred sixty five mile power um tornado. 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: What breaks my heart is among the dead are several 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: children in Putnam County. That is just like I can't 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: even like fathom. Michael and I actually went down to 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the one of the areas where it was hit East 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Nashville five Points area. Actually, my first house that I 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: bought was in five Points and I mean the area 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: is just completely destroyed. I've never seen anything like that before, 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: like I've been I grew up in Michigan, so there's tornadoes, 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: and we had tornado warnings and we had hide in 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: our basement. But I've never seen destruction like that, No, 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: And that's what you know, growing up in areas that 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: you and I both grew grew up in was, especially 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: where I grew up on the East coast in in Virginia, 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: we didn't We don't have any natural disaster issues like 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: at all. We'll get like the tail end of a 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: hurricane that comes up the entire coast, but that's just 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: like some bad weather. So this is all new and 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: it's not until really my respect level for um these 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of disasters has have increased over the past two years. 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: One living in l A experiencing an earthquake for the 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: first time where I was like physically powerless, Like I 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: tried to move and my body wouldn't respond. So I 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, earthquakes are the real deal. And then 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: this going down to an area you know, in our 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: city that we see a lot between Germantown and East 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Nashville and all of that, and seeing this destruction of 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: places that we didn't see, you know, up in Booming 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: not too long ago. So it's just it's it is surreal. 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: When you see that, it really is crazy. Yeah, and 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean just it was crazy because that 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: night before we had a uter tournament in the house 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: and we had the the we're actually we're watching The Bachelor, 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, there was a you know, 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: a weather alert that came up, and you know, Catherine 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Um was just like, oh, it's way north of us. 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: We don't have to worry about it. And I've I've 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: always been pretty scared about storms, but you know, once 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I saw on the map, I was like, oh, yeah, 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: that's way north of us. Like we're totally fine. Um, 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: And we played until about ten thirty. That was the 53 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: night that I don't know if who ever follows him 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram, but when Jolie took everything off of her 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: walls and everything in her room. Reading in her room, 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: she her bed, I mean everything from toilet, tree stuff too, 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean just anything. And the funniest thing is when 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: I was instagramming it, you know, we're like, how did 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: you get stuff off the wall? Well, we didn't finish 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: recording it, and so everyone keeps asking me and DM 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: me like how did she get that stuff off the wall? 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: And I was like, I really wish we knew, but 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: we have theories. But she, you know, she's still young 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: enough where she don't really understand exactly what we're asking maybe, 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: and so she can't really tell us insane. But the 66 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: night ended around yeah thirty, eleven o'clock, and it was fine. 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I remember, I felt 68 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: like I was in a dream because the windows were 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: they were like shaking, and then the rain and then 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the hail and the wind, and then there was just 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: like this big boom in the neighbors that were just 72 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: talking about they were like, yeah, there was like this big, 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: crazy boom. And then I woke I woke you up. 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Michael, there's a tornado watch. But then 75 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: when I was looking at my phone, I saw that 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: two tornadoes had touched down right by our friend's houses. 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: So I was texting them and they were like, yeah, 78 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: we're fine, but we've been in you know, our bathtub, 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and but my neighbor's house across the street completely demolished. 80 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm just like what. And then going there that next 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: day and seeing all the damage was just like, I mean, Rachel, 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: And then we're out there picking up their friends house 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: belongings that were just scattered, everything just completely demolished. And 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: then my other friend, he said he was like standing 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: in his living room and his just whole roof was off. 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: I just can't It's just I'm like, can we get 87 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: a safe him because I'm starting to freak up, and 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: just hearing saying about the kids and people dying, I'm 89 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: just like, no, that's just it's it's just awful. Yeah, 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: it's unreal, it really is. And our hearts just go 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: out to the people. But uh have lost anything and everything. 92 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: And Sean Johnson, UM, and I've been promoting her go 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: fund me page. UM, so if you guys go on 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: my Instagram and swipe up to donate, UM, just to 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: help any anybody that's lost. UM. So we're we're giving 96 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: back in that way. UM. And then if you live 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: in the Ashton Nashville area, you can go to h 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: o N dot org and to figure out how you 99 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: can volunteer in the areas that um that need the help. 100 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: But we are actually going to talk to a meteorologist. 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: He's News Channel five Henry Rothenberg, and UM he's a 102 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: storm chaser and he's going to tell us some tips 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: and tricks. UM. Because he was in the heart of 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: the storm. Yeah, here's here's boots on the ground and 105 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: so he's gonna Yeah, I'm really excited to talk to him, 106 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: um and get some more knowledge and kind of what 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: to do. So stay tuned for that interview. Let's take 108 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: a break, all right. So before we get Henry Rothenberg 109 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: on the phone, we actually want to play for you 110 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: the footage. UM, like, I mean, yeah he recorded. Um, 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: if you go to Henry Rothenberg and Instagram you can 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: actually see it. But um, this sound is just as powerful. 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: So um, eastern of it to give it a play. No, 114 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: get it side, folks, moving by the Channel five area 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: as we speak. Five dude, you're getting this right now? 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: Good all right, folks, you need to head to your 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: safe place. This tornado is on the grounds moving Wi 118 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: Fi t O five as we were getting close to 119 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: a direct hit at the TV station right now. Tornado 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: on the ground. Hey, Henry, UM, thank you so much 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. And man, 122 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: I just watched your video again and it's just I 123 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: can't even imagine. Um, you know, I grew up in Michigan, 124 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: so I'm kind of used to tornadoes, but I've never 125 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: really seen one up close and personal. So I mean 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: when you were basically in the heart of the storem 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean, is this something? I mean, You're used to this, right, Yeah. 128 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: I've been storm chasing for seven teen years now, but 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: this is definitely the closest I've ever been in the 130 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: first time I've ever actually been hit by one. Usually 131 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm the one chasing the storm, not the other way around. 132 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: So what happened? Because all I know is the movies 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I've seen, like Twister, when the when the you know, 134 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: tornado twists or what? What made this? Because I remember 135 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: we were having cards. It was a card night with 136 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: with my girlfriend's over and we were watching the Weather 137 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Channel and they were saying, you know, it was way 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: way north of us. So we ended up turning the 139 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: TV off because We're like, it's not coming our way. 140 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: So what what ended up happening? So it was just 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: one of these freak situations. Otherwise that everything was pointing 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: more to this being a gusty wind event and some 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: hail um most energy looked to be kind of northwest 144 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: of Nashville. We did get the severe events that were 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: over uh in parts of Kentucky earlier in the evening 146 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: that produced a tornado that it was confirmed, and then 147 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: just watching this one cell with some strong upper level 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: winds basically just as it started to come together and 149 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: just give enough energy to create that spin. Next thing 150 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: we knew, Um, we're getting reports at baseball size hail. 151 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: And then I just started to notice some radar as 152 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: it started to make this comment our our textbook looking 153 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: hook echo and the tornado warning came out. I was like, 154 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's that's where I think it is. Then 155 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: with some lightning strikes, I'm gonna be able to pick 156 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: it out in the sky. Up. I look out the 157 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: back door the TV station and went and saw it, 158 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: and then saw the silhouette of what was the tornado 159 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: At that point it was probably eight or nine miles 160 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: from us, and um, you know, and then just see 161 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: the rest. Want happened to say that we had the 162 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: funnel that we could see it from the back door. 163 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: One of our photojournalists heard that, and um came around 164 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: and met me out there and we just started rolling. 165 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: And then that's it led to the videos you saw, 166 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: But um, it was it was definitely kind of a 167 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: gut wrenching feeling because it's the first time I've ever 168 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: stared down the belly of the beast, if you will. 169 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: And I have a question Janna and I This is 170 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: Mike by the way. Jane and I were talking yesterday 171 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: and we're curious, just from our lack of knowledge about 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, why it doesn't seem like tornadoes ever hit 173 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: like a downtown, the downtown of a city. You know. 174 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Our theory has to do with the taller buildings and 175 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: it you know, reflecting the wind or whatever it may be. 176 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: But from your professional standpoint, what is that? Can you 177 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: explain it to us? It's so it's actually a really 178 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: commondmit that they don't hit popular areas or downtown areas. 179 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: You know, Downtown National has actually been hit twice now 180 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, I believe, or two thousand eight Downtown 181 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta was hit. Um, So they're just not as common 182 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: in downtown area. Is it's it's not because of buildings 183 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: in winslow things like that. It's just, um, you know, 184 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: usually where you get that perfect collision of cold air 185 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: and warm air. Um. You know, it's where you've got 186 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: like the open plains. UM were used to seeing things 187 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: like that in Oklahoma. But it's it's sheer luck. Honestly, 188 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: it's when a lot of it comes to that. They're 189 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: not that common in downtown, uh high rise areas, but 190 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: they're certainly not unheard of. So Okay, I keep referencing 191 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: twister and you probably are like, oh my god, stop. 192 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: But my friend said she was in East Nashville and 193 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: she was like, by the time my phone alarm you know, 194 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: went off and I it's a tornado warnings turned on 195 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: the news and said, you have three minutes? Like, how 196 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: is that enough of an advanced warning for people? Especially? 197 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you said it just kind of 198 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: came up out of nowhere, but shouldn't we have more 199 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: of a advanced warning system that people have more than 200 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: three minutes to go upstairs, grab their kids and get 201 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: their stuff together. So one of the things about that, 202 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: you know they've got the uh there's all these apps 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: out there. Of course, there's that auto feature that phones 204 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: will hurt you if there's dangerous weather approaching or you know, 205 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: amber alerts they go off for but fell data can 206 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: get clogged, so that can delay the message as it's relaying. UM. 207 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: So that warning had been out for UM and it 208 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: had been out for a while. It started over kind 209 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: of towards uh Bettman Dixon Counties just west of Nashville, 210 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: and then as it was moving towards Davidson County, it 211 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: had been out for a little bit. But by the 212 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: time that this message is trying to go through all 213 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: the cellular data is it's getting clogged trying to go 214 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: to hundreds of thousands of phones. Um, that can delay 215 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: the warning time. That's why one of the things that's 216 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: very old school but it's still probably the most rely 217 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: out of a way to alert you. As a weather radio, 218 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: they run off of a separate uh NO Weather Service transmitter. 219 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: So the second that the warning is issued, the second 220 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: it comes up, it instantly goes through these secondary signals 221 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: that aren't trying to handle you know, cellular bandwidth and 222 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: people using WiFi and all of that stuff. So, um, 223 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: that is why some folks did get delayed warnings on 224 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: their phone because it's just trying to go to so 225 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: many places at once. Plus as this tornado is coming through, 226 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: it's hitting various potential cell towers and things that the 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: signals would be relaying off of. That two can delay 228 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: the message getting out there. Interesting is there actually, I think, like, 229 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: what's the highest is it? Is there actually an F 230 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: five or now there is um Off the top of 231 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: my head, the last time I remember one reaching UM 232 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: five drink was Oklahoma City, I believe in two thousand 233 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: or more, Oklahoma, which is a suburb of Oklahoma City. 234 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: So very rare for them to happen, but they certainly 235 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: do happen. I don't I think we have seen one 236 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: here in modern time anywhere in Tennessee. Henry, what would 237 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: you say to the people that have been affected by 238 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: this when they're you know, moving into somewhere else or 239 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: rebuilding a business or or a home and now they've 240 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: been affected by this once? I'm sure I make up 241 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: if I was in a situation even now, I already 242 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: want to prepare just in case this this does happen. 243 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: What would you recommend for them? Is it worth investing 244 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: in you know, a shelter, uh, you know within your 245 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: home or some kind of protective area to be if 246 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: this happens again? Absolutely? Um, you know it's better to 247 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: be safe than sorry. If you were to invest in 248 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: that shelter, you've got it. Should the situation ever arising 249 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: into where you potentially in it hopefully that that doesn't happen, 250 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: but you know, it's always better to be safe than sorry. 251 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: And while obviously places like Oklahoma and Kansas and Texas 252 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: are more prone than Tennessee for tornadoes, we are in 253 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: part of Tornado Alley. This is our severe weather season. 254 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: It could happen again. It is not impossible. So it's 255 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: worth that investment, investment for your safety and the safety 256 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: of your loved ones too, to have that just in 257 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: cases where to happen. Mike always told So, we don't 258 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: have a basement, and I know they say bathtub, but 259 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: we don't really have a bathtub either that it's really 260 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: right by windows, so we can't really do that. We 261 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: have a staircase. But I was telling Mike, I was like, well, 262 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: if the tornado comes and it happens like it did 263 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: with these other houses and they're just demolished, is it? 264 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't seen any staircases standing. So I 265 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: really started to freak out, like, what are we actually 266 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: where we actually supposed to go if that's the case. So, 267 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: staircases are are one of the most reinforced structures of 268 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: a home because you know, you're they're carrying weight up 269 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and down. That's a lot of times why you'll see 270 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: staircases still standing in the house may be demolished. UM. 271 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: And in that case, that's a perfect location to go 272 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: because not only do you have a staircase, which again 273 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: gives you that reinforcement as far as the construction quality goes, 274 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: what you've also got as many walls between you and 275 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: the outside of your home as possible. UM. You know 276 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: you want to have as many layers, if you will, UM, 277 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: just to try and give you a little more padding 278 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: and a little more protection. Do you think a lot 279 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: of the weather patterns are because of global warming? Like, 280 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: what's your take on that global warming? I mean, there 281 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: are many variables to tie into it. Um. There are 282 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: certainly things you know, the home you live in today, 283 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: unless it's one of these older homes, historic homes, uh, 284 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: the street, the neighborhood, they weren't there thirty of the 285 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: years ago. So you do have factors like homes, like 286 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: pavement and concrete that's absorbing heat, additional vehicles on the 287 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: roads that can release emissions. We do have these variables 288 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: that factor in to the change in our climate. UM. 289 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: As far as the weather patterns going as far as 290 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, hearing stories of these type of storms hitting 291 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: populated areas. It also has to do with growth. I 292 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: mean areas these storms are hitting, they've hit for years. 293 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: They just maybe didn't strike. You know, you didn't have 294 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: a neighborhood or a community there twenty years ago when 295 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: it when it moved through that area. We've also got 296 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: with advancements in technology, with radar, with trained spotters and 297 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: storm chasers out there, um and with the ability to 298 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: record video and instantly uploaded, we've got the ability to 299 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: verify if tornadoes are on the ground. Uh, Whereas even 300 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: twenty years ago that just wasn't as easily a case 301 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: where we could have maybe had as tornado moving through 302 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: the open field in Less, Tennessee or a field in Oklahoma, 303 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: but there wasn't anybody that was able to record it 304 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: right then to to show and verify that something did 305 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: indeed happen. And again going back to the growth and 306 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: in communities developing that weren't neighborhoods that weren't there and 307 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: years ago. Interesting, I have one more question, why did 308 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: you want to become a storm chaser? Was it something 309 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: you always dreamed of as a kid, Like, Hey, I 310 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: want to go chase that tornado that's up in the sky. 311 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: Leading up to the time I was about seven, I 312 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: was terrified of storms. I've actually running my mom and 313 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: dad's room and high during them. And my cousin Wayne Fink, 314 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: took me outside during one and I like to joke 315 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: and say I was struck by lightning. And I say 316 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: that because we really should have been. We stood outside 317 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: at my cousin's house, pass in the corner next to 318 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: where the garages in a tree under the tree. You 319 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: do not stand under a tree. You don't want to 320 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: be near the tallest object, and you don't want to 321 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: be the tallest object out there. And he started explaining 322 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to me what was making that noise and h the 323 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: flashes and and something about that. That's why I like 324 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: to say I like to joke and tell people I 325 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: was struck a by I think something about that transformed 326 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: my fear into fascination. And ever since then I wanted 327 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: to go into meteorology. And uh, I was real fortunate. 328 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: While I was in high school in Memphis, Um, the 329 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: morning meteorologist for the CBS their Cottomers, took me under 330 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: his wing and really gave me an early start and 331 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: I had some amazing mentors along the way in various markets, 332 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: and um, just there's also the aspect now that it's 333 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: still a fascination I'm telling you about the weather. I 334 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: don't want to just be saying that. People say it 335 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: sounds like this, this is what a textbook says to 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: look for. I want to tell you this is what 337 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: you're looking for. This is what it sounds like because 338 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: I've been through them. Wow, that's awesome. Thank you so much. Yeah, Henry, 339 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: thank you so much for everything that you're doing to 340 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, continue to cover this, uh, this 341 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: travesty that happened to our to our city. And any 342 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: one of our listeners can follow Henry at Henry Rothenberg 343 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: on Instagram and he's again he's a meteorologist at a 344 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: news channel five here in Nashville. So Henry, thanks again, man. Yeah, 345 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: thank you guys your time. I appreciate it. Appreciate you. Alright. 346 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: So UM again, if you guys, go on my Instagram 347 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: or Seawan Johnson's page, UM the go fund me it's 348 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: up there for people who have lost UM everything, so 349 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: to swipe up to donate to help. UM. Check out 350 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: our links on our page um and give what you can. 351 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I told UM my followers just last week. I have 352 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: one point nine million followers, and if every single one 353 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: of you give a dollar, imagine the difference that we 354 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: can make. Let's take a break, alright, So enough out 355 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: of the tornado, let's get into something, um just as 356 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: devastating the coronavirus. Man, what a great time to uh No, 357 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: I'm but I I feel like we should just be 358 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: knowledge a lot, like just like you know, Henry just 359 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: dropped some major knowledge about tornadoes. I feel like there's 360 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: a lot of panic around you know, what to do 361 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: in a tornado now, but I feel like there's also 362 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of panic with coronavirus. So I want people, 363 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, our relationship, I mean, our podcast is you know, 364 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: about helping people and giving them tips. This is another 365 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: way to do it. This is another way to do 366 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: it because you know, those that have any fears about 367 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: tornadoes or what to do, and then also you know 368 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, everyone's freaked out. I mean Sarah and then 369 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: couldn't even didn't even go to Italy. So it's you know, 370 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: I think people need to to hear the truth because 371 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes on the news, they're spewing out 372 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: things that may not be there. I think they're just 373 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: like really trying to panic people, and people are getting scared. 374 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: So let's just kind of see what the truth is. Okay. Well, 375 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: on that note, we have Cake Spots, who's elite editor 376 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: of Well and Good dot com who's here to talk 377 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: to us about coronavirus and just some health tips and tricks. Hey, Kate, 378 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: Yah Hi, how Ai Hi, It's Mike and j in a. Hey, Hi, 379 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: nice chat. Thanks for coming on. Just to give our 380 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: listeners a little heads up. You are the lead editor 381 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: at Well and Good dot com, right for your for 382 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: the for y'all's blog. Yes, yes, so were health and 383 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: Wellness side. Well, that's awesome. This is a very timely 384 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: and appropriate to have you on with everything with the 385 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, uh, the virus spread and everything like that. 386 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: I know people are freaking out, so I think we 387 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: just kind of want to get right into it with you. Absolutely. Yeah, 388 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: it's a wild time and I think there's a lot 389 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: of fear and a bit of misconception, so it will 390 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: be great to talk through some of that. So with 391 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: all the stuff that we're seeing on the news and everything, 392 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: and people buying face masks and you know, uh, hand 393 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: sanitizer and the prices on that going through the roof. 394 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: You know, is that really especially with the face masks. 395 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: I've never really understood that personally. Do you think that 396 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: is something that actually works to prevent the spread of 397 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: the coronavirus or any other virus or epidemic that's happening. 398 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: We're starting to a lot of doctors about this, and 399 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: lots of leading healthcare professionals are actually asking people not 400 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: to purchase face masks because the face masks that we use, 401 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: for example, in surgeries always in hospitals to stay really 402 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: safe and stop the prends the spread of disease has 403 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: been fitted to people's faces and it's really important that 404 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: that happens because if there is not a good fit, 405 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: disease molecules can get underneath the mask and they're pretty ineffective. 406 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: And so what we've heard from lots of health professionals 407 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: that we work with is that they prefer people don't 408 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: actually buy face masks right now because they also want 409 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that the medical professionals have the supplies 410 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: that they need, and they're suggesting that really the handwashing 411 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: and just being really aware of the crowds that you're 412 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: in and who you're interacting with, that those two steps 413 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: are much more important it for the topic of the spread. 414 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: So forgive me if this sounds super arrogant, and I apologize, 415 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: but you know, everyone's so freaked out about the coronavirus 416 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: and I get it. But at the same time, when 417 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I look at the numbers, I see that the flu 418 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: will kill sixteen people in the States alone, and I 419 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: just I feel like, and forgive me again, this is 420 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: like total arrogance, but I feel like it's way more 421 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: severe than the coronavirus. Yeah. Absolutely, I think that there 422 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: is a level of spear circulating about the coronavirus that 423 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: we just don't say about the annual flu every year. 424 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: And of course flu definitely, unfortunately kills people who are 425 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: at higher risk each year, and it's something that people 426 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: are worried about getting, but there is not the same 427 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: level of fear that we're saying right now. We've talked 428 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: about this a lot at Well and Good and I 429 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: think part of the reason that people are fearing a 430 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: lot having a lot of fear around Corona and COVID nineteen, 431 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: which is the disease caused by coronavirus is because there 432 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: is no vaccination yet and there is no treatment, and 433 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: I think that then leaves people that level of unknown 434 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: and uncertainty, leads people to being really nervous, Whereas I 435 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: think with the flu, because there is the flu shots 436 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: that hopefully people are getting every year, and there are 437 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: medications that are proven to help treat a lot of 438 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: flu symptoms, that gives people a level of peace's mind 439 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: that they don't have about COVID nineteen. Do you know 440 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: how at all people that have been affected by the coronavirus, like, 441 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: in what way are they being treated? Like what's happening 442 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: when they are quarantined? We are not. That's not something 443 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: that we have touched on a lot at well and 444 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: good because we're really focused on more reporting out the 445 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: I guess impacts on lifestyle of the coronavirus fear and 446 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: also helping people be um measured in their response and 447 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: trying to like quell some of the fears and concerns, 448 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: and so we haven't done a lot of reporting around 449 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: what actually happens, particularly in the US, when someone has 450 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: been quarantined for corona. So I am not the best 451 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: test person to answer that question, and don't they say 452 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: to the people that, you know, if you do get 453 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, you're more Again, just like the people that 454 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: do die from the flu or older, they've already had 455 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: respiratory issues, or they're already in you know, they have 456 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: some they're you know, they're the older, they're not as healthy. 457 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: Maybe those are more at risk like the flu victims 458 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: that die. Absolutely doctors report that date. A lot of 459 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: the mortalities that we've seen from COVID nineteen has been 460 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: uh more and elderly patients and people with pre existing 461 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: reperratory issues. So again, we are definitely, um very very 462 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: conscious of only reporting what medical professionals and medical bodies 463 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: are reporting, and that's that's what we have been told 464 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: by our sources. Interesting, I'm gonna take us off the 465 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: coronavirus for a second and kind of get into the 466 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: day to day. And my wife and I are very 467 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: different when it comes to this. She's very like, even 468 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: if you go in our bathroom, he's in her sinks. 469 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Her sink has a bottle of hand sanitizer. My sink 470 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: has just a bottle of soup. So like I old 471 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: fashioned wash my hands. She a sanitizer. Is there any 472 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: difference between the two. One's easier and one's less. Man, 473 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: I don't have to like use water. I'm not wasting water. 474 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm actually being more I'm being more environmentally friendly because 475 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm not using water. And it's just easy because I 476 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: don't have time to plastic hand sanitizer bottles which you 477 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: go through faster. What is open? It's the bottle, not 478 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: this one. So you know, I don't want to pick 479 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: sides here, but actually have again, by the doctors that 480 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: we've been working with, washing your hands is the very 481 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: best thing you can do. So the hand sanitizer is 482 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: a great alternative and a great option when you're when 483 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: you don't have access to soapen water. But the number 484 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: one thing to do is washing those hands for twenty seconds. 485 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say. I've always known that I just 486 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: don't have twenty seconds in the day to to actually 487 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: wash my hands. General won't take time to go to 488 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: the bathroom, let alone wash your hands. But I do know, 489 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: I mean I but it's better than nothing, right, Absolutely 490 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: better than nothing, particularly if it is percent or above 491 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: our whole level. That's a really important um fact because 492 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: if it's lower than that. It's really not super effective. 493 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: It's a great alternative, and it does. You know, it 494 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous because it's only twenty seconds, but washing your 495 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: hands for twenty seconds feels like eternity, Happy Birthday's wife, 496 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: and it's really it's a punish, you know. Yeah, that 497 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: sounds I can't. Nope, there's an anxiety just thinking about that. Well, 498 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: I do want to go back to the coronavirus just 499 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: for one second, because I have a lot of friends 500 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: that are not wanting to travel overseas um and you know, 501 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: we're traveling um overseas actually in the next week, and 502 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, is it can Everyone's like canceling their trips 503 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's still okay to travel. You just 504 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: have to be aware that, hey, this is what's going on, 505 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: but people shouldn't Maybe they shouldn't be canceling because they 506 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: don't know all the facts about corona. Yeah. So this 507 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: is definitely a question that's come up so much with 508 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: our in Fit Well and Good, and I think the 509 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: best thing to do is obviously being very cognizant of 510 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: what the CDC is advising. Make sure that you're going 511 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: to really reputable sources to understand what the current travel 512 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: guidelines are. I also have travel coming up that I 513 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: will not be canceling. I've got a trip home to 514 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Australia planned, and I think it's just about being smart. 515 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to fly through China. I'm not going 516 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: to fly through South Korea. I'm going to try and 517 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: fly direct from l A to Sydney. I'll obviously be 518 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: very careful about washing my hands and santisizing my hands 519 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: as I travel. I think at this stage, when there 520 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: are no very strict travel bands to the place that 521 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: you want to go, is, as you say, just being um. 522 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: It's just being super aware and taking extra precaution when 523 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: when needed. Just to kind of promote well and good 524 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: dot com, Like, what's something that you guys just published 525 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: recently on there that maybe might excite some people that 526 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: are internet, you know, wellness and living right that could 527 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of bring them to your site. Yeah, absolutely good question. 528 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: So I'll give you. I'll give you two two things, 529 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: two for the price of one. One that I think 530 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: is really that's related to what we talked about today, 531 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: is we just published a piece about how to look 532 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: after your mental health in times of crisis. Particularly related 533 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: to coronavirus. But obviously everything that you guys have going 534 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: on in Nashville as well is really awful and scary, 535 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: and so I think we really want to make sure 536 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: that we're giving people the resources to stay calm, help 537 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: wealth scares, and really control anxiety. So I think that 538 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: that is definitely something that we could we could all 539 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: use a little bit of right now and in a 540 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: completely kind of different vein, we have a monthly workout 541 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: series called Trainer of the Month Club. It is you 542 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: can find it on YouTube at the Well and Good 543 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: YouTube profile, and it gives it's perhaps the buzziest trainers 544 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: around the country to create a month long workout plan. 545 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: The best thing is that all of these workout plans 546 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: can be done at home. So again, if people are 547 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: feeling nervous about going to gyms and spreading germs, I 548 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: would highly recommend that they check out our Trainer of 549 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: the Months Club series and it's not be done at home, 550 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: and it's with the best trainers in New York and 551 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: l A right now. Amazing, Kai, thank you so much 552 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: for your professional insight, and we're again can our all 553 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: of our listeners find you, They can find us at 554 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: well and Good dot com and also I am well 555 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: and Good on Instagram. Awesome. Thank you so much, babe, 556 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thanks so much, guys. By bye. So 557 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: do you feel more educated now, honey about tornado and coronavirus? Yeah? 558 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: I do. I just I still feel like the flu is. 559 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers don't lie. I know, it's scary, 560 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: and I know I totally get it, and I'm not 561 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: trying to be ni naive to things. But I also 562 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: when someone says like, hey, like it's true, like this 563 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: flu is killing so many people, and I get that 564 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: it stays on a surface forever. I do get all 565 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: those things, but I don't the fear that they're building 566 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: with it, I think is just a little bit. I mean, 567 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: I get it. I totally agree with you, but it's 568 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: it's new, it's different, and that's what I mean. It's scary. 569 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: I totally get the flu scary too, though, and the 570 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: flu is like people were numb to it. Yeah, and 571 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: it was just like, oh there's another flu death. But yeah, 572 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good to know. And I'm still going 573 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: to use in sanitizer because who got who is twenty 574 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: seconds to wash their hands? There we got there. I'm 575 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: the comments Janna is so dumb American. Let's uh, I 576 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: want to get on the topic of kids for a second, 577 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: so let's take a quick break and don't come back 578 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: and talk about that. All right. So Jolie has been 579 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: doing something recently that I really want to kind of 580 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: get some feedback from our listeners. Oh what is she doing? 581 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: So she's been really competitive recently, and everything is I 582 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: win because she's got mama blood in her. So everything's like, 583 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: if it's going up the stairs, I win, you know, 584 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: when if it's doing anything, I win, Jason win. Where 585 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm conflicting a little bit is that balance. I've just 586 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: been nervous to say, I don't really know what stance 587 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: I want to take yet, be because you know, she 588 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: gets upset if I'm like walking up the stairs faster 589 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: than her, which ace and she searched crying to get upset, 590 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: like stop and wait for her. Then she jumps ahead 591 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: of me says, I win you little. I mean a 592 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: part of me wants a bit you don't win because 593 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm super competitive, and I'm like, I actually won the 594 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: game of um high ho terios. But at the same time, 595 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to, like you said, get her upset. 596 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: But I also I feel like it's time to explain, like, hey, 597 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: you didn't win, but next time, like you can try 598 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit harder, and here are ways that 599 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, and this is I think we should 600 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: let her win sometimes right now she's four. Yes, I'm 601 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: in I will have a much easier time navigating this 602 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: topic when the kids are older and understand, because I'll 603 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: be able to articulate better than message that we're trying 604 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: to portray and instill in them. But right now, when 605 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: she doesn't, really will you understand what we're saying or 606 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: our method or point behind something. You're just kind of like, 607 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a new man's land on that topic. 608 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: That's all I kind of thought you were going to 609 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: bring up when she says because the first time I've 610 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: heard her say it the other day she's like, Daddy's 611 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: mad at me. And that broke my heart when she 612 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: said Daddy's mad at me. Broke my heart because it 613 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: just and Jana is like conveniently behind her on the 614 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: couch for Chase, I look over like Joeli's shoulder and 615 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: she's just giving me that headshake but it's just it's sad, 616 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: like she's really like she's at the age now where 617 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: she's getting things, and it's just, you know, I just 618 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: turning into a little mama's girl again and I love it. Hey, 619 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: so we have some emails. I was wondering if you 620 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: could give advice about my six year old. She has 621 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: been a big sister for a year now, but her 622 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: attitude has been so flipping bad. She acts out, breaks 623 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: things at school and just as chaotic. I know we 624 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: have really been lazy with our overall day to day. 625 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: We have gotten into such a blah routine and we're 626 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: fighting to get out of it. As parents, we are 627 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: not at our best and with the winner, it's it's 628 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: so hard to stay motivated. However, she is in gymnastics 629 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: and we make plans to have game night and do 630 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: something different um together, but lately our schedule has been 631 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: so crazy that we just cannot keep up and by 632 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: the time we get home it's time for bed eight o'clock. 633 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: How can I keep up with this mess and still 634 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: make enough time to play and have fun so we 635 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: can make life more enjoyable for her. UM, I feel 636 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: like any parent in that age and activities can totally understand. 637 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: I know, Catherine is always just like we've got basketball 638 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: practice and then gymnastics, and then we got to drop 639 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: off this thing, and then we have to do that, 640 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: and so it's just but and like you said, by 641 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: the time you go to bed, you know, by the 642 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: time you get home, it's time for bed. Um. I 643 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: feel like one thing that we do that could be 644 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: helpful is we have impromptu dance parties. Dance parties are 645 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: the best. Dance parties are so much fun because the 646 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: whole family can interact. Dad usually will pop his knee 647 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: out and be sore by the end of it, but 648 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: we have just so much fun. And we just tell 649 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: Alexa to play one of our favorite songs and everyone's dancing, 650 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: even if it's for five minutes. It's just when you 651 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: get home, I know, it's really you know you're ready 652 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: for bed, but hey, a five minute like get before 653 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: bed dance party. Like Joli and Jace are both just 654 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: so ecstatic every time. It takes them out of any 655 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: bad mood. I know. I always just think it's just 656 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: a fun way for the family just to do something 657 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: a little bonding and then kind of make it a 658 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: thing it's like, you know, through dance party. Yeah, we've 659 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: been doing it since Jolie was like too, and it's 660 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: just kind of that it's not planned. It's just that sporadic. 661 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: That's a way to kind of get out of the 662 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: like to nudge yourself out of the routine a little bit, 663 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: and it's just fun. All right. We have one more email. 664 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: Do you want to do the Flirty Soldier or Heavy Heart? 665 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: M okay. I have been married to my husband for 666 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: almost two years and we don't have kids yet. We 667 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: had a beautiful marriage. He's an amazing husband. However, there's 668 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: been a pattern we can't seem to break. He frequently 669 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: goes out for drinks with his friends, but these nights 670 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: turned into him being gone until three or four in 671 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: the morning, making things worse. He doesn't respond to me 672 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: the next day. He is remorseful, sad, depressed, full of 673 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: promises that this won't happen again. But Loane, behold, it 674 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: always does. This time, it happened two nights in a row, 675 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: and I was so worried. I called his parents and 676 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: his friends, but nobody could help. Eventually, my childhood friend 677 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: texting me that she saw him at a bar extremely intoxicated. 678 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: She got him an uber and he eventually got home. 679 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: The next morning. He told me he is addicted to 680 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: porn and dos cocaine occasionally. I told him I was 681 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: glad that he told me. I told him I loved 682 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: him and will always be there for him. I know 683 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: he is hurt and upset with himself, and we agreed 684 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: that therapy would be a good first step. I feel 685 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: so lost, isolated. I feel guilty for feeling embarrassed. I 686 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: feel guilty that I don't want him to be at 687 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: our home because I don't trust him. I feel inadequate. 688 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: How could I ever measure up to porn? Mostly, I 689 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: feel guilty for imagining a relationship with someone else without 690 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: these issues when I know it isn't his fault. I 691 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: want a family soon, but now I'm not sure I 692 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: see that with him anymore. As as my husband confided 693 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: in me, I immediately thought of your experiences within your marriage. 694 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone else that I can fide in, 695 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: and at this point I'm just so sad, angry, and hurt. 696 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, thanks for reaching out to us, is 697 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: right for sure? Well, first of all, I mean going 698 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: out and being that intoxicated and not responding to you 699 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: is not okay, like at all, not on a consistent basis, 700 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: not ever right. But I have friends that maybe that's 701 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: happened like once, it's not okay. I'm not saying it is. 702 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if it happens, it's still not okay. 703 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: But it's even more so if it's a regular thing. Yeah, 704 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: if it happens once, like you're in the doghouse for days, 705 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: but that shouldn't be something where you just you don't 706 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: come home until three or four, and if they're trying 707 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: to get in touch with you intoxicated, like that's that 708 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a regular occurrence and then let alone two 709 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: days in a row. Yeah. I love that he first 710 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: of all told you that he's you know, his that 711 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: he's an addiction um that you don't have to find it. 712 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: So that's good. I love that he agreed that he 713 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: would do therapy. That's also good. And don't I also 714 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: want you to know that it's normal to imagine your 715 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: life in a different relationship. I've done the same thing 716 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: in this relationship because I'm like, well, that person wouldn't 717 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: do that, and he that's shiny and great. I'm sure 718 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: we would have a better relationship. But at the same time, 719 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: there's always going to be something I think in a 720 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: relationship where nothing's ever perfect, So you're going to have 721 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: issues with the next Like Michael always says, um, same cat, 722 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: what do you always say? Different cast, same story. And 723 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: so it's promising that he told you. It's promising that 724 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: he's willing to do therapy. Those are really great steps. 725 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: I would get some really really really strict boundaries in 726 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: place about him not being able to go out to 727 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: bars until you feel you can trust him again him 728 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: not I mean, maybe him even practicing sobriety until you 729 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: know if that's if that's since he's addicted to cocaine, 730 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: you know, maybe practicing an A treatment or an na 731 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: um and you know, and getting into a program um 732 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: and and really like living by those boundaries and if 733 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: you can't, well, then that's your answer to not stay 734 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: in the marriage. In my opinion, Yeah, I mean, as 735 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: Jena said, I also appreciate your your kind of acceptance 736 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: of him coming to you with the things he came 737 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: to you with um And you shouldn't feel guilty about 738 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: having thoughts that you might have around your your marriage 739 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: with him, in your relationship. You know, I also appreciate 740 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: you saying, uh, you know that it isn't his fault 741 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: that you're imagine your relationship with someone else. Um, And 742 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: maybe that's the way of you saying like, his issues 743 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: aren't his fault. Yes, when it comes to addiction, they 744 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: may not be his fault, but he's still responsible for 745 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: his actions. And so you guys just have to, in 746 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: my opinion, just sit down and have the most candid, 747 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: real discussion that you possibly can. What does he want 748 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: in your marriage? What do you want? You know, what 749 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of boundaries are appropriate and safe for both of 750 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: you and go from there, and depending on his reaction 751 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: to things, your reaction to things, it's important and imperative 752 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: that y'all come at it from an adult place and 753 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: in a grown up way to be able to agree 754 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: on these certain boundaries. If you talk about not going 755 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: to the bar at all for a period of time 756 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: and he blows up or gets defensive, or even if 757 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: you just said, hey, can you limit it to once 758 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: a week or whatever it is, as long as he's 759 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: receptive in working it out, and you're also not coming 760 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: to him just barking orders and saying you can't do this, 761 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore. It's about a discussion. Yeah, 762 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: So I mean the end of the day, I think 763 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: it's just you know, go to therapy, figure out boundaries 764 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: that work for you guys. And um, I would say, 765 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: give it a try because he's willing to try so 766 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: and then go from there to see with the boundaries 767 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: if you're able to trust him. All right, kind of 768 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: a heavy, um, heavy episode, but um, you know, the 769 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: good news is is that we have raised sears already 770 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: for the tornado fund. Um, So that's really great news. 771 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: And um, I think at the end of the day, 772 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: when tragedy strikes, people come together, so hopefully people can 773 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: see the good and that So see you next week.