1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: A confrontation between two best friends turned deadly. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: There was a lot of alcoholic went on that night, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: and we believe that's what led to the rage, which 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: led to the murder. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: And it all happened in front of the victim's wife. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: This poor woman has just watched her husband be gunned down. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: But even after the shooter's confession, the police believed there 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: was more to this story. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: There were just a lot of pieces that did not 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: make sense, and it. 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Put the spotlight on the wife of the victim. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: When we first came across her, she was playing the 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: grieving widow. But the more you look at this, the 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: more you say things aren't adding up. 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: We are in Covington, Louisiana today for the conclusion of 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: the Louisiana Love Triangle. I'm slung glass and this is 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: American Homicide. Just a note that this episode contained some 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: graphic content. Please take care while listening. 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: There's a saying about law enforcement in general, that's very 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: true for dispatchers, where it's a lot of periods of 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: boredom interspersed with minutes of panic, and that's very true 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: in Covington. 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: Heather Jenkins spent two decades working as a dispatcher for 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: the Covington Police Department. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: You may not do anything for hours, and then you 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: may have, you know, an hour where you don't even 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 3: have time to take a drink of water. There's often 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: no rhyme or reason, you know, to how that happens. 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Covington is a suburban community that sits just across the 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Causeway from New Orleans, and based on some of the 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: calls Heather receives, it seems even further away than that. 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: I received a call about a cow loose in the city, 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: and we did have to do a pursuit with that cow, 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: and we did get it back home. And we've had 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: peacocks loose in the city. We had a squirrel loose 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: in a home that actually did a lot of damage. 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Along with loose cows and squirrel break ins. She's responded 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: to her fair share of more serious calls, including the 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: December two thousand and four murder of Thomas Tally. 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: Mister Tally had been shot and was laying in the driveway. 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: And his wife, the mother to his children, Kendra, witnessed 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing. 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: Kendra Tally was outside yelling for help, yelling call no 44 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 3: long one. 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Kendra watched in horror as her husband, Thomas Tally was 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: shot and killed by his best friend, Tommy Row. Can 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: you even imagine. 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: Kendra Tally was just basically there kind of freaking out. 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: She was a victim of this horrible crime. Her husband 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: had just been shot. 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Kendra was able to identify the shooter as Tommy Row. 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: At some point, he did surrender and was taken into custody. 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: And that left the question on everyone's mind. Why on 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: earth would Thomas's best friend turn on him like that. 55 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: It did not make any sense to me whatsoever, And 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't really I don't know if anybody really understood 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: what happened in the very beginning. 58 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Well, according to Kendra, it all had to do with 59 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: a secret she told Tommy about what her husband did 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: to her. 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: At some point, she did say that her husband forced 62 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: her into having sex. 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: And that pushed Tommy rowl over the edge because you see, 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: Tommy had feelings for Kendra and didn't want to see 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: her hurt. 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: I think she told Tommy that to try and cause 67 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: him to be jealous, and that she got more jealousy 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: than she expected and couldn't talking out of it. 69 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Tommy Row's jealousy turned into rage. As the sun was 70 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: about to come up that morning, Tommy drove Kendra back 71 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to her. 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: Home, shots were fired, and mister Talley was dead almost immediately. 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Detective searched Tommy Raw's house and found pictures of Kendra 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: and her son, as well as a suicide note that 75 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: read like one part confession and another part love letter. 76 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I also want my mother to know that I love 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: her with all my heart and Kendra just as much 78 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: or more. I just hope Kendra can forgive me for 79 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: what I have done. I also hope Kendra will always 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: know how much I love her and what she means 81 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: to me. I just can't sit around and watch her 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: being hurt all the time. Love always Tommy. So was 83 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: Tommy upset because he shot Thomas or was he upset 84 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: that he fell in love with Kendra? And if he 85 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: couldn't stand to see Kendra hurt all the time, how 86 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: to killing her husband saw that? 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I can only surmise that 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: he cared about her. 89 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: And if we didn't already have enough questions, the results 90 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: of Thomas Tally's autopsy presented a few more. 91 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: Two guns were used. It didn't make sense. I just 92 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: felt that that was just such a juxtaposition of all 93 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: the stuff that had gone on. 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Tommy Row was an avid hunter, but did he really 95 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: use two different guns to shoot Kendra's husband? 96 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: And I just thought, this is not how I feel 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 3: like this went down. The story that Kendra had told 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: us that morning was not going to be the full story. 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: According to Kendra, Tommy locked her in the truck while 100 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: he went and got two guns out of his house. 101 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: You can't really lie somebody in a truck the way 102 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: that she said that he did. 103 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: Kendra said when Tommy Raw fired the first shots at 104 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Thomas from inside the truck, he pushed her head down 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: and shot through the passenger side window. Tommy then exited 106 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: the truck and fired two more bullets. 107 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: There were just so many little pieces that didn't make sense, 108 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: that it didn't mesh, and it had already become pretty 109 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: clear that this wasn't just a single man that had 110 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: a grudge against somebody's husband. 111 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: Four days after her husband's murder, Detective Doug Eyirwood brought 112 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Kendra back in for questioning. He wanted to know more 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: about the strange dynamic between her husband, Thomas, and his 114 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: best friend Tommy Row. 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: She cleaned their ages on the rocks. She didn't know Thomas. 116 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: He just wasn't great to be with. He was just 117 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: kind of a house husband and wasn't a party type 118 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: of guy. I no, she was a party girl. I 119 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: think he wanted to be the dedicated, calm life at 120 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: home with his wife and child and started to progress 121 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: in life as a married couple. 122 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Kendra then talked herself into trouble. 123 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: She was telling me about how her husband that day 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: that had oral surgery, and in orders to help him, 125 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: she thought the best thing to do was to go 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: to the French Quarter with a boyfriend that night. 127 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Yes you heard that right. Kendra called Tommy Raw her boyfriend. 128 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: So Tommy Raw wasn't just her husband's best friend who 129 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: happened to be obsessed with her. The two were actually 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: having an affair. 131 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: There was this grand or they put together of that 132 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: being some sort of love between them. It was just 133 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: this incredible relationship. 134 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: He asked me. 135 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: It was a bunch of rubbish. 136 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Knowing Tommy and Kendra were having an affair certainly changed 137 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: the way to detectives viewed the night of the murder. 138 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: So it shows you what kind of a class person 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: she is, and that immediately had my suspicions. 140 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: The detective kept questioning Kendra, hoping to find the truth. 141 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: Most of an interview with a police officer isn't like 142 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: you see on TV. It's not the good cup Bank cup. 143 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: That's all TV stuff. The most successful interviews you sit down, 144 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: you talk with somebody and eventually you sort of getting 145 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: them to open up and then you get to the truth. 146 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: But he didn't feel that happening with Kendra. She kept 147 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: changing her story and sometimes would answer questions with things 148 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: she said she read in the newspaper or saw on 149 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: the news. 150 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: It was obvious that she was just not knowing what 151 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: to say, and she was lost for words because it's 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: difficult to put a lie on top of the lie, 153 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: because she don't know what lie you've said. If I 154 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: contradict the other lie, which was contradiction of that because 155 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: I made up and I got to cover that one, 156 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: it just goes on and on. It's nobles, It's a 157 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: domino effect. It just gets worse and worse. 158 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: I think. 159 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: Even though a couple of times her attorney sort of 160 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: looked at her and CURIATI WHI to ask her a 161 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: question because he was dying to find out in the 162 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: answer to some of these questions too, and they just 163 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: weren't forthcoming, they weren't believable. At the end of the interview, 164 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: they said, Okay, we'll cooperate to do you need any more, 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: you can contact us. What we're going to leave now 166 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: and I said, you, as the attorney may leade she 167 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: may not. 168 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: The detectives believed they had enough evidence that just hours 169 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: before her husband's funeral, they arrested Kendra and charged her 170 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: with second degree murder. Instead of grieving her husband's death graveside, 171 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: she'd be arrested, booked, and behind bars by the afternoon. 172 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: And that's what makes the whole thing even more weird. 173 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: That's Thomas's brother, Mark Tally. 174 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: And if she did what she did, she's a good 175 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: actress because I did not see her that way. 176 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Mark was completely floored. Then not only was Kendra having 177 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: an affair, but that she could be involved in his. 178 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 6: No, they didn't have their problems, but they seem genuinely. 179 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 5: Happy with each other. 180 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 6: I just know she's not going to go describe a 181 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 6: gun and shoot somebody. 182 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: She has to be persuaded into doing that. 183 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: That's again my opinion, I just think she got caught 184 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 6: up in something that was way over her head. 185 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: Tommy Raw didn't talk after his arrest, but his mother did. 186 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: She told reporters that Kendra visited Tommy nearly every day 187 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: and that the two were very much in love. She 188 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: said that you acted like a family, and even when 189 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping together just before the murder. 190 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 6: How they pulled this off is the one thing that 191 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 6: amazes name. How could they do this with all the 192 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 6: people that they know around and seeing around town? 193 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: How I could? 194 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: That's one thing I can't understand. 195 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Kendraw's mother also claimed that Hendra wanted out of her 196 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: marriage and had planned on leaving her husband to be 197 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: with Tommy. 198 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 5: The behind the scenes stuff that I don't know. 199 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 6: I'm sure there was a lot of arguments and disagreements 200 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 6: like any other family. 201 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: But from what I. 202 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 5: Saw, I think Kendred truly loved Thomas. 203 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 6: The way I look at it is and it's not 204 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 6: knocking her in any way, more of a fourteen year 205 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 6: old than a twenty five year old body, you know, 206 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 6: kind of defiant. 207 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: With Kendra's arrest just hours before Thomas's funeral, can you 208 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: imagine how uncomfortable his memorial service had to be. 209 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 5: It was almost like family feud. 210 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 6: You had Kendra's family sitting on one side and the 211 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 6: other on the other. They actually had to have a 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 6: security detail. 213 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, this is about Thomas. 214 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 6: If you guys are gonna fight, I'm gonna leave because 215 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna. 216 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: Deal with this. 217 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: Thankfully, everyone behaved themselves. The real battle would take place 218 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: years later in the courtroom. Nearly three years after Thomas 219 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Talley was gunned down in front of his home, his 220 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: best friend Tommy Row went on trial for his murder, 221 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: and from the moment he entered the courtroom, assistant Da 222 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: Jack Hofstadt feared the worst. 223 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 7: Well, how Tommy look when he got arrested with just 224 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 7: Sember elevens was completely different. Now he looked when he 225 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 7: got the trial. He's six foot two, two hundred pounds 226 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 7: and he came hobbling in on the crotches. It shaved 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 7: real well. He looked real pretty as he could. 228 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: They always seem to do this, come into court with 229 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: an ailment that seems to say feel sorry for me. 230 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm weak. There's no way I could have done this. 231 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Would jurors believe this? Fee who struggled to get around 232 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: the court room on crutches, could be capable of killing 233 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: his best friend. 234 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: Those things sticking him mind. 235 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 7: But I do know absolutely had Tommy Raoul killed a 236 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 7: shot mister Twing, and I do. 237 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: Know that it was as cold blood as you're fit 238 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: in that. 239 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: In Louisiana, there are three categories of murder, first degree, 240 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: second degree, and manslaughter. Originally, prosecutors charged Tommy Rown with 241 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: first degree murder, which carried the death penalty. The lower 242 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: the charges to second degree, meaning Tommy faced life in prison, 243 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: but Tommy's lawyer had aimed even lower. 244 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: They were gone for manslaughter. 245 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: If Tommy Rown was going to convince the jury, he'd 246 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: finally have to share his version of what happened the 247 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: night of the. 248 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 7: Murder, so he pretty much had the testify. 249 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: First. He testified about his relationship with Thomas Tally. He 250 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: said Thomas was one of his best friends. They barbecue, 251 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: played darts, lid fireworks, and drank beer together. 252 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 7: He was crying and this crying and kids are flowing 253 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 7: down his face. 254 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Tommy said he met Kendra when she was a teenager, 255 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: although Tommy was twelve years older than her. He said 256 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: he eventually developed feelings for her, but Kendra went up 257 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: marrying his best friend, Thomas Tally. But about a year 258 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: before Thomas's murder, Kendra and Tommy started having an affair. 259 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 7: Tommy and her had had a long term relationship. I 260 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 7: think he met her when she was sixteen. They had 261 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 7: had things were going on. She's running around in the husband. 262 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: But the most explosive testimony was about how his and 263 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Kendra's evening on Bourbon Street ended in murder. 264 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 7: Kendrick went off with Tommy Rale and two other people 265 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 7: in one New Orleans drank some beer, took some math, 266 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: and some marijuana. During the night, Thomas Talley kept calling 267 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 7: his wife on phone on fire when she was coming 268 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 7: home and where she was. 269 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: According to Kendre, he had been an asshole. 270 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 7: Apparently three o'clock in the morning, they go to the 271 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 7: waffle house, and at the waffle house. 272 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: Kendra said that her husband had raped her. 273 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: And that's when Tommy said he went into a wage 274 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: and left the restaurant. His version of what happened next 275 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: is very different than what Kendra told the police. 276 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 7: At this point in time, the story is diverge. His 277 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 7: story was that they never went back to his house, 278 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 7: that he always carried two guns in his vehicle, one 279 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 7: on his side and one on the other side. 280 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Tommy Rawle told the court that he drove to Thomas 281 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: and Kendra's home and when they arrived, it was Kendra 282 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: who made the first move. He said that Kendra honked 283 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: the horn and that made Thomas Tally walk outside. He 284 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: was barefoot, wearing sweatpants and a T shirt. 285 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 7: He said they got there and that she was sitting 286 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 7: on the console right next to her, and she start 287 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 7: as shooting. He was shocked that Kendra had shot through 288 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 7: the window. He had no idea shot in a shoot 289 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 7: and when she was shooting through the window, he was 290 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 7: immediately getting out the call with his forty five and 291 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 7: went and shot Miss Tally twice. And who he described 292 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: as a very good friend. I don't know what he 293 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 7: did with his enemies, but he described him as a 294 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 7: good friend. He did a lot of stuff together. 295 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: So this is a completely different story than Kendra's. If 296 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: you remember, Kendra told detectives it was Thomas who fired 297 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: first from inside the truck. 298 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 7: She says that Tommy pushed her head down and shot 299 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 7: through the window glass one everywhere. Then she says that 300 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 7: Tommy got out the car and shot he husband two 301 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 7: more times. 302 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: That was the only thing both sides agreed on. 303 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 4: Which other story is true. 304 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 7: We know that Tommy shot him in the head twice. 305 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: Tommy Roll only admitted to firing the final two shots 306 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: at Thomas, and he said it all stemmed from what 307 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Kendra told him about her husband sexually assaulting her. 308 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 7: Yes, he is shot him, but he had shot him 309 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 7: because he was basically out of control. But he did 310 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 7: it because he was defending the honor of his girlfriend. 311 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: And during cross examination, the prosecutor asked Tommy to show 312 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: the jury how he shot Thomas. 313 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 7: Tally, I had co console lay on the floor and 314 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 7: Tommy got off the stand, stood over him and showed 315 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 7: the jury exactly how he shot him in the head. 316 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: So there was Tommy Rowe on his crutches, looking all frail. Well, 317 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: he reenacted how he killed his best friend. 318 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 7: On cross examination, I always ask questions that you got a. 319 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: Yes or no. 320 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: The prosecutor then asked Tommy if he cried while having 321 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: sex with his best friend's wife. Tommy didn't answer. 322 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 7: And I thought asking him whether he was crying while 323 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 7: he was shooting him, and he was crying when he 324 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 7: was getting ready to have a shootout with the police. 325 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: His tears just went away and. 326 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 7: He just had this like cold expression on his face, 327 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 7: and he kept that throughout the cross examination. 328 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: The prosecutor wanted the jury to know that Tommy Row 329 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: resorted to murdering his best friend when there were a 330 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: million other things he could and should have done if 331 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: his ultimate goal was to be with Kendra. 332 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 7: The last question I asked him is how much is 333 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 7: forty five its cost? And he said between cloud and 334 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 7: fifteen dollars. I said that's cheap and hiring a lawyer, huh? 335 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: He said, yes, sir. 336 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: In his closing arguments, Tommy's lawyer admitted that yes, his 337 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: client did shoot Thomas Talley twice, but he said the 338 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: real culprit wasn't Tommy Row. It was Tommy's love for Kendra. 339 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: He claimed it was a crime of passion because Tommy 340 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: was obsessed with Kendra and she manipulated Tommy. He said, 341 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: when a woman knows that a man has been obsessed 342 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: with her for years and years and she tells him 343 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: someone violently, repeatedly assaulted her, what did she expect to happen? 344 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 7: Mrdicase, are the things that sticking in mind because there's 345 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 7: always a victim. 346 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: Jack Hofstad prosecuted the case against Tommy Row. 347 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 7: Mister Tally was shot and we had to speak up 348 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 7: for him, wait to make sure he got justice. But 349 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 7: it was an unusual case. Him shooting twice forty five 350 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 7: is uncontested. He admitted that. 351 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: But Tommy's lawyer argued it was a crime of passion 352 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: and therefore it was manslaughter, not murder in the second degree, 353 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: and that it was all a result of Kendra Tally 354 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: telling Tommy that her husband, the father of her child, 355 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: had sexually assaulted her. Neither the defense nor the prosecution 356 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: called Kendra to testify. 357 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 7: They were going for manslaughter and there was no reason 358 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 7: I would want to put her in the stand. Why 359 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 7: put somebody understand that you don't believe who're this's. 360 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: Nd The case against Tommy Row went to the jury 361 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: and forty five minutes later they returned with a verdict. 362 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: They found him guilty of second degree murder. At his sentencing, 363 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: the judge called it the most senseless crime he had 364 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: come across during his nine years on the bench. He 365 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: sentenced Tommy Row to life in prison and told him, 366 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: you have made your own bed. Now you get to 367 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: sleep in it, although it won't be comfortable. Three years later, 368 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: and nearly six years after Thomas Talley was shot, Kendra 369 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: Talley went on trial for her role in her husband's murder. 370 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 7: She's charge of the principal of the Myrtle and a 371 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 7: principal in Louisiana means that if you're involved in a 372 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 7: planning and you're just as involved as a person who 373 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 7: actually pulls the trigger, you're guilty. 374 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 4: The best example is an on robbery. 375 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 7: They might have one guy planning on robbery, another guy 376 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 7: at the getaway driver, and the third guy goes into 377 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 7: the bank. 378 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 4: Well, they're all equally guilty. 379 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 7: Even though one guy won in a bank, one guy 380 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 7: sit in a car, guys sitting his house. 381 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: And remember when this all began, Kendra was seen as 382 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: a victim. 383 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: I looked at the police board, and everything on the 384 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 7: police boardinated no sense at all. I think everybody was 385 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 7: suspiciously of Kendre once they started. 386 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 4: Looking at it. 387 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: But as the trial kicked off, prosecutors faced an uphill 388 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: battle because Tommy Row refused to testify. 389 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 7: Tommy Raw was not going to come down and testify 390 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 7: to what he testified a trial, So all we had 391 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 7: at that point in time was her story and we 392 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 7: were going to have Tommy to come down were futed. 393 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: It was a huge hurdle for prosecutors, but they plowed forward. 394 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: On the first day of the trial, both sides presented 395 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: their opening statements before lunch. Afterwards, the two sets of 396 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: lawyers informed the judge of something no one in the 397 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: courtroom had expected. They had struck a plea deal. 398 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 7: I felt at that time still do that she was 399 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 7: involved in the murder. But it doesn't matter what I think. 400 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 7: It matters whether they have evidence. And let's just say 401 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 7: that even in this conservative jurisdiction, which we get at 402 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 7: ninety conviction, very probably on the jury trials, we could 403 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 7: have convicted her. That's not the right thing to do. 404 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 7: You can't prosecute somebody because you think they did it. 405 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 7: You need evidence. 406 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Without enough compelling evidence, it seems like neither side wanted 407 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: to gamble by leaving Kendra's fate up to a jury, 408 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: so they struck a deal. In her plea deal, Kendra 409 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: admitted to one count of possession of meth and one 410 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: count of manslaughter. A manslaughter charge carried up to forty 411 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: years in prison. 412 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 7: All the time you get please reports where you say, yeah, 413 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 7: I think they did that. Well, thing in the world 414 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 7: is for somebody who prosecuted somebody because they think they 415 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 7: did that, And we didn't go down that road. 416 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: And when it came time for sentencing, the judge gave 417 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: Kendra just ten years for a manslaughter and five years 418 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: for the drug charge. Even though she faced far more 419 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: time in prison. Her plea deal with prosecutors kept her 420 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: sentence at ten years. Kendra was all smiles when the 421 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: judge ruled that she could serve both sentences concurrently. 422 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 2: Was the wisest thing she did was to take that 423 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: plea deal. 424 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Detective Doug Arrowood worked the case, and. 425 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: She knew that that was probably the best chance to 426 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: get through this, the quickest way to do the least 427 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: time to have to suffer the least from her actions. 428 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: I wish, knowing. 429 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: What I'd do, that we had not taken the plea 430 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: deal and gone for it. But it's not up to me. 431 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: It's up to the family. And you also go to 432 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: think about the sun as well, even though he was 433 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: an infintent time, they'll take the w into account and 434 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 2: they were very satisfied with a ten year sentence, So 435 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: that's what counts, and that's. 436 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: What we went with. 437 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: Maybe we would prefetzy Kendra get twenty years as supposed 438 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: to tend. But is there that chance that she could 439 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: have walked out of the courtroom that day. 440 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they didn't want to see the hat. 441 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: When Kendra took the plea deal, she was just thirty 442 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: years old. She told her family in the courtroom that 443 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: she'd still have a life when she's released from prison. 444 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 6: I think the trial was fair, although I think Kendra 445 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 6: got off somewhat easy. 446 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: The victim's brother, Mark Towley, struggled with Kendra's plea deal, 447 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: and from what he learned in the courtroom, Kendra shot first. 448 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 6: She shot first through the window of the pickup truck. 449 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 6: To me, that's not man slaughtered, that's premeditated murder. 450 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 5: But I wasn't there, so I don't know. 451 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 4: I don't know all the facts. 452 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 6: So I think she basically got away with more than 453 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 6: she should have. 454 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 5: I feel like. 455 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 6: The universe has a way of handling with, you know, 456 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 6: people like that, And to me, if there is punishment, 457 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: they'll get it at some point or another. I do 458 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 6: forgive him and Kendra, but I will never forget it. 459 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 5: I just cope with it. 460 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Kendra became a free woman in twenty thirteen after serving 461 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: most of her ten year sentence. She has since remarried 462 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: and moved to Arkansas. She refused our request for comment. 463 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 6: I still see Kendra as the bubbly, happy, you know, 464 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 6: cheerful person. 465 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: I think she's a good person, you know. 466 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: I don't think she's evil. 467 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 6: Yes, and was shocked that it happened, and especially that Kendra 468 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 6: was a part of it. That was probably the hardest 469 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: part for me, because in my mind, she had to 470 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 6: be persuaded to do this or be incapacitated. 471 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: That's just my opinion. 472 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Detective Era Wood disagrees. 473 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: You got two guns, you got two people. I think 474 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: they both decided to go and do this. She didn't 475 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: have to talk him into anything. He didn't have to 476 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: talk her into anything. They were both intent on the 477 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: same thing. I think they wanted to be together and 478 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: they wanted to get rid of the obstacle. It was 479 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: in their way, So let's get rid of the husband. 480 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: But the question is why why killed Thomas Tally? Only 481 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: Kendra and Tommy Rowell have the answer to that, and 482 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: they're both sticking to their respective stories. 483 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: The only thing I regret and I wish I had 484 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: gotten was a confession from her. If I had a 485 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: confession from her, that's the slam duck was at out 486 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: in court, out done. We're probably gone away for the 487 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: rest of your life. I wish I'd have had. 488 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: That, even without a confession from Kendra. He believes Tommy 489 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: Row's version of what happened. 490 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: With the evidence of the scene, My theory was that 491 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: she shot through the window when he came out of 492 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: the house, and rowl got out, went around and finished 493 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: him off on the drive point blank. We knew we 494 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: had the right theory behind it, but we couldn't make 495 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: him testify the her trot. As we couldn't make him testify, 496 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: we couldn't produce him as a witness, so we couldn't 497 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: present what he had presented in court previously. 498 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Today, Tommy Row remains in a Baton Rouge prison serving 499 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: out his life sentence. Kendra got off much easier. 500 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: It's not the result I wanted, but it's next best. 501 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 7: Though. 502 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: It's a tragedy when you have these things to happen, 503 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: but at the same time, some of these things that 504 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: can bring close together and strange stories. 505 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Lost in all of this is the other victim in 506 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: this story, Thomas and Kendra's son, who was just two 507 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: years old when he lost his father. 508 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: She still has a son. I don't know if she 509 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: sees her son or not. If she does, I hope 510 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: she can be a positive importance in his life if 511 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: it's necessary for her to be a positive inquist by 512 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: being away, and I think she needs to stay away. 513 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: That's up to her, her family, her son, because I'm 514 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: sure he's almost old enough to make that decision himself now. 515 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: So you have to take everything into account. I think 516 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: justice was served here in the sense of Tommy Rowl. 517 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: He was sentenced to life, and I think he deserved it. 518 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 4: I think Kendrew did too. 519 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Next time on American Homicide, after an aspiring preacher winds 520 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: up dead, the community looks inward to understand who was responsible. 521 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: What's discovered is a web of crimes. We're back in 522 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Louise for part one of Bodies on the Bayou. I'm 523 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: Sloane Glass. That's next week on American Homicide. You can 524 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: contact the American Homicide Team by emailing us at American 525 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: Homicide Pod at gmail dot com. 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