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Speaker 2: It's memoirs Martini, Celebrity poof Club.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity poop Club.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to see you.

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Speaker 2: It's really a thrill to be here in gorgeous Midtown

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Speaker 1: And I know, just to situate everyone, we're actually in

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Speaker 1: like so Eazy today.

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Speaker 2: You said, got off the bus looking for a blow

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Speaker 1: And they said, where can I get a drake? Quick?

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Speaker 2: And then a homeless guy would take out his dentures

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Speaker 1: Same but Rudy's, which is a bar, Intel's kitchen that

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, Oh my god, beautiful. We can load up on dogs.

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Speaker 1: Do we need to keep this city alive?

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Speaker 2: That's a beautiful with so many old school, iconic sort

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Speaker 1: I know, and our people are suffering.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, without cultural heritage spaces to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Where are we? You know?

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Speaker 2: How has your weekend? And I know I saw you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you again for coming to my rocking performance.

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Speaker 1: I guess I should come out now as a poet

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Speaker 2: And for all my Benzo queens out there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, for all my dirty girls who need a bullpot.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're talking about Lana Delight and her book

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Speaker 2: And doesn't that just sum it up right there? All

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Speaker 2: the Lana themes, fragility, femininity, California fruit, the California fruit

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Speaker 2: we have some oranges, one of California's great exports when

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Speaker 1: My god, people in California are always like, can you

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Speaker 1: So your grandmother made kind of like a natty lemonade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she didn't pour the sugar in it, because I think Grandma.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so Lana, I'm gonna come round and say,

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Speaker 1: You get the persona that I get.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's into the fifties, the sixties and six don't forget.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but she's not really into like anything after that.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like and then let's take it back

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, because she's like like rock and rock guys.

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Speaker 2: So Lily, I'd love for you to read a poem

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Speaker 1: Kind of get the idea. It references things in her life.

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Speaker 1: And like we are going to nord Storm Rack and

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Speaker 2: It's still idolizing that her.

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Speaker 1: Style is so basically she could be more super skirt. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she could be more cottage.

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Speaker 2: Course, she could be more fragile like this girl in

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Speaker 1: I'm like so messy and like and maybe like she

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think think that speaks the same contradiction

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Speaker 1: Because she totally could be more Daisy Jones than The

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Speaker 1: Her style could be this hippie girl or thin girl,

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Speaker 1: she dated Jack Donna Hue from.

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Speaker 2: From Salem friend of the Pod, Yeah, who once turned

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Speaker 2: all the gas burners on at my apartment.

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Speaker 1: When I was having a party in college. Yeah, college

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Speaker 1: is crazy, talk about top literally ultra rons, Like he

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Speaker 2: To write about yeah, and they like fake dated slash

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was having this like absolute rager living

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Speaker 1: with sixteen. Yeah, we're there together summer. Yes, so it

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Speaker 1: was actually before you moved there.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, like.

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Speaker 2: This is in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: For those of you don't know Pilsen neighborhood, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have bush It's time, you know. I was living

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Speaker 2: I don't know who was going to walk through those doors.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I remember he just like turned all the

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Speaker 1: not cool. How long were they on for? Probably just

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Speaker 2: Okay, but like so definitely enough, like I didn't started

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Speaker 1: Didn't you leave your oven on once for like five months.

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Speaker 2: That was years ago.

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00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: That was years ago. I'm over it. Let's talk about

440
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: her relationship with other women, because she makes some references

441
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: in this book a few and then.

442
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: I kind of didn't clock that.

443
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: Okay, one it's I'm funny, but I'm only funny when

444
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: i'm what I'm wrong.

445
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: Which I haven't been in fourteen years. So is that

446
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: cab and sober?

447
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: So I read on her again when I traveled to

448
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: her wikipedia. Her parents quote unquote sent her to rehab

449
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: aka as boarding school, and she was fourteen for alcoholism Harris, Yeah, huh.

450
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: And so now she's off it or she's saying that

451
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: approached you book because you knows her mom is reading.

452
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: I mean, but she's thirty seven, so that math wouldn't

453
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: add up.

454
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: I heard a story, I think from one of our

455
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: friends of the Pods in La. He was like at

456
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: a party atlenadl Ray's house once and she never left

457
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: her bedroom, but that she like sent out trays of

458
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: coke like from the bedroom to the party doers, and

459
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: then like people would like bring maybe like other objects

460
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 2: into her like offering, but she yeah, like offerings to

461
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: the queen on the altar.

462
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: But she was being so like I am.

463
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 5: Tired girl, bedroom girl, messy girl, lying down girls island

464
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 5: bent over the bed girl, and I'm just gonna lie

465
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 5: in my like weird bedroom that has like so much

466
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 5: floral and like messy shit everywhere.

467
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like her dresser must.

468
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Be wait, so there's a photo actually of a girl's

469
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: dresser in this book that I assume is hers.

470
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's covered and stuff.

471
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: We have a pink iPhone case with cherry details on it,

472
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: which is so delease like cherry tattoo girl. I feel

473
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: like she and Katy Perry were like the same in

474
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, do you know what I mean?

475
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: And then became me more like dance pop and like

476
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: rito pop. In Lana was just like I'm going to

477
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: stay as being.

478
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 1: Like quiet, quiet and swell tree.

479
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: There's like a little tray. There's a grinder we see

480
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: with weed in it, a candle, one of those huge

481
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: sages with the rubber band around it, with Palo Santo

482
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: strapped to the sage, like more gilded frames, like lots

483
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: of pill bottles, lots of more candles, like random skincare stuff.

484
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: It's just classic. There's loose pills on the tray. And

485
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: it's like kind of an old tiny dresser. I've seen

486
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: so many of.

487
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: These, so many and like and now I'm thinking my and.

488
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: The girls always have these toxic boyfriends they date for

489
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: two and a half years.

490
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: Yes, And also those girls sometimes are always in their room,

491
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Like I remember this girl in my dorm on the

492
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: smoking floor, like, and I feel like sometimes I go

493
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: in there and hang out with her. And I was like, wait,

494
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I've never seen you leave your room. But then would

495
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: like reference her boyfriend of course, who was like older

496
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: and she was like big hoodie and like watching like

497
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Niptock for maybe like nineteen hours a day is like

498
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: very lawless vibe. Do you want those girls to get out?

499
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: And I think she did. I mean, she obviously has

500
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: left her house.

501
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, she has to go to the studios

502
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: make music. She's occasionally going on like a walk for

503
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: coffee with her random boyfriends. Right, She's going to Runyan

504
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: Canyon maybe.

505
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I mean, isn't the whole thing about like

506
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: LA's walking paths? Is that the Yeah?

507
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: I mean she is in Malibu most of the times.

508
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: She's just like going to the beach and getting drunk

509
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: at the beach, walking the beach, all of her beach

510
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: beach stuff.

511
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, which she.

512
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: She has this whole pomee. I want to talk about

513
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: her stolen like vehicle like Valor.

514
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to f one fifty myself.

515
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, that no, that's certainly going fifty one to

516
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: fifty myself. That means myself to mental institutions. Okay.

517
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: I thought she was like doing a mix of like

518
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: saying she was going to kill herself, but it was

519
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: like a play on the fact that she drives a truck.

520
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like, wonder you heard f

521
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: one fifty. I was being more country, just being like

522
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna f one fifty myself.

523
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Well, you need to write that song.

524
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

525
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: No.

526
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: I was talked about the poem where she talks about

527
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: taking both sailing lessons and.

528
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, pilot lessons, and talk about the lessons.

529
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: When she has to like execute some maneuver in this

530
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: airplane and then and then she doesn't do right, and

531
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: the guy's like, you don't trust yourself, and she's like,

532
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: I didn't trust myself, not just twenty five hundred feet

533
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: above the coast off Malibu, but in life.

534
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: And then she's like, I'm not a sailor, and he's like,

535
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: you don't have to be like you can be a sailor.

536
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: You need to like believe in yourself.

537
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: And then she realizes that she's not a sounding she's

538
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: a poet, and the whole poem is kind of her

539
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: but being like, actually, wait, I'm like an artist and

540
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: a bedroom girl, and I don't need to be like

541
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: learning how to be a pilot or a sailor. But

542
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: trying to get your pilot's license.

543
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: Is pretty why, And I.

544
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: Think she's doing it in this way that is still

545
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: just very like retro Ammericana, like being so my grandfather

546
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: like getting a pilots in the thirties vibes.

547
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: It's like i'd just been like I can drive a plane.

548
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

549
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: It's also very like scientology in this way, kind of

550
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: like John Travalta like, la, you can do anything.

551
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, sailing to Catalina is one of our

552
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: nation's great pastimes.

553
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: Did you ever take sailing lessons?

554
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: No?

555
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: But my grandfather had a boat, okay, so he had with.

556
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: My mother's father, everyone was licensed. My mother's father had

557
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: the pilot's license okay, and he was part of this

558
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: crazy troop that like did tricks like in the twenties,

559
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: like why I'm like film film.

560
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: In their big goggles.

561
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were called like the black Cats or

562
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: like the black kitty Cats. There's this whole crazy story

563
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: about them, and like there's crazy like old timey film,

564
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 2: real footage like what of people and his crew like

565
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: literally walking out on the wings of like the most

566
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Right Brothers planes and like changing wheels mid air, and

567
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: like sometimes people would die.

568
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: It was like the Harlem Globe.

569
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: They were Harlem globetrotters have planes in the twenties.

570
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: That's the crazy. And she was toxic, Okay, he was okay.

571
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: But my father's father had like a small sailboat like

572
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: in Marina del Rey, and they would like sail to Kindeleen.

573
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm always so weird loud when people from the

574
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: past are for Miller. Yeah, a new town.

575
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: How are you there?

576
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: It's a new town. Okay, why are you allowed? But

577
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: so like i recently watched La Confidential, which is an

578
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: amazing film.

579
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure already love.

580
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, she's so La Confidential and it is about

581
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: like Russell Dames, well, like Russell Crow like dates a

582
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: hooker and he thinks he's the only one and then

583
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: of course like she cheats on him and it's a

584
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: whole thing. I was surprised by the sailing and pilot

585
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: lessons things because I thought her thing was a little

586
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: more like working castle and valor, like I'm on a

587
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: truck and my boyfriend is like in prison.

588
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: All right, but I think that she is a pro.

589
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: Sheen's sailing and piloting in a way that's more my

590
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: grandfather and less.

591
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 6: Working class, well more more retrost, yeah, as opposed to

592
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 6: like chad stuff where it's like new sailing stuff and

593
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh yeah, I can't wait to get in

594
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 6: my one hundred and twenty foot America's cup yacht.

595
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: It's like she's more talking about like my grandfather is

596
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: like thirty footer in Marina.

597
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Right, you know what it also is it's like about

598
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: like the guy who works at a dock and like

599
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: they him and his father have a boat, yeah, and

600
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: like people take rides on yeah. And it's like my

601
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: boyfriend has a boat.

602
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 2: And his dad also has a boat.

603
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: He takes rides to the kids.

604
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: His father thinks. I'm pretty like that.

605
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: The problem with her music is for me, like a

606
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: lot of music I like to walk to it, be

607
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: driving to it, right, I mean? And I was trying

608
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: to listen to the new album as I got off

609
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: in Times Square and I was like, this is an

610
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: impossible place to listen to Lana. Lana is music for sitting, Yes,

611
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: sit down. Someone recently asked me actually had a poetry

612
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: reading where I read last week. They were like, oh, like,

613
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: are you obsessed in the new album? And I was like,

614
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: honestly no, And she was like, oh, is it because

615
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: like you're thriving. Oh they called me out. Yeah, and

616
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, I guess you're thriving, Like you're

617
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: not like sad enough to listen to it. And I

618
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: was like, I actually do have sound music, but like

619
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: I actually need my sound music to even be a

620
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: tiny bit.

621
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

622
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I think my issue is it cause I love video games,

623
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: I love my boyfriend's and the band. I love her

624
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Summertime cover. I love what I love is one song.

625
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: I get that vibe and I get the ethereal ness

626
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: and the softness and the heartbreak in there, and she

627
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: is able to imbue a lot of power without like belting,

628
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: and I think that's like quite impressive.

629
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's sometimes when it's like she belts but doesn't belt.

630
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: But I'd so much rather listen to Billie Eilish, who

631
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: also can imbue like a soft like falsetto with like.

632
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: A lot of power.

633
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 2: Interesting it has like depressed music and quiet music and

634
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: messy girl music and bedroom music, but then there's way

635
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: more variety.

636
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: And actually I totally disagree. I listen to Lana so

637
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: much more than Midilely Eilish, and I feel like Lana

638
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: her emotions come through where Billie Eilish is so twisted

639
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: with her brother like I do like Billy Iish, but

640
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I kind of I get a vibe more

641
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: from Lana than Billy.

642
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: I think Lana's vibe is definitely more singular. It is

643
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: more like she's so committed to her retro cosplay, and

644
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: I think that's like really impressive for an artist to

645
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: stay in that over and expand and expand and expand

646
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: on it, like with everything that she does. And I

647
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: know that, Like Billy is more just like I'm a

648
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 2: teen and she's kind of like doing what teens are

649
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: doing and like scrawling in my journal and being angry

650
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: and angsty and then mean like wait, now I have

651
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: tits but I'm like famous and I'm hot, and like

652
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: that's rough, but I'm like learning to cope with that.

653
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I want to read this last stance and this photo

654
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: another this is just Solana. So it's a photo in

655
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: like Cpia tone of like a retro oven, except it's

656
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: a double retro oven, which makes me think, I'm like

657
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: this actually truly does need to be pretty much of

658
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: an antique. Fine, there's two ovens and it's a six burner, yeah,

659
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: which is actually pretty.

660
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: And it's about the domestic, it's about the feminine turning

661
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: to the hearth.

662
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: With standing in front of Mount Rushmore feel like the

663
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Great American Homecoming I never had. Let's discuss that line

664
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: for a moment. I mean, I love this because this

665
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: is so her where she is so just like George

666
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Washington was Bay.

667
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: And well also obviously, as I said earlier, as a pog,

668
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: Mount Watchmore is one of the places where she's going

669
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: to feel small.

670
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: She's also tall, right, she's like five ten. I don't know.

671
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you. Okay, I'm not even going to

672
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: guess someone's hype these days.

673
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: Right before you get absolutely canceled.

674
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I just think it's really hard

675
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: to tell how tall anyone is.

676
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, especially celebrities, because they're always short, they're always shorter,

677
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: and photos are crazy. I do imagine her more five

678
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: nine with platform like wedges from like that store, Mandy,

679
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Mm hm, cork wedges, corkqudges.

680
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: Would the magnitude of the scale of the sculpture take

681
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: the place of the warm embrace I've never known? Which

682
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: again calls no questions her relationships. It's there's always such

683
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: a The jack one seemed fake to me, the cop

684
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: I think was real? Or should I just be here

685
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: now in the kitchen bare feet on thenleum board but

686
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: not unhappy? This last line killed me cutting vegetables over

687
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 1: boiling water that I will later turn into a stew.

688
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: Is she making the stew?

689
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Is she even making the stew? Or is she just

690
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: like really slowly cutting.

691
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: She's slowly cutting carrots, slowly cutting celery, just boiling them.

692
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: There's no onion, there's no like spices, and then they're

693
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: just like boiled, and she's like I forgot and then

694
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm ordering yeah, and then it's like uber eats and

695
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: she's like I made a soup.

696
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: And the whole thing is just like there isn't really

697
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 2: much beyond this, like insanely like simple description of like fetishizing,

698
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: like retro like like I'm barefoot. It's like I'm barefoot

699
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: in the kitchen cutting celery. And this is when I

700
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: come back to saying that poetry is really easy.

701
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: When you say that I wrote a little something in

702
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: the span of one minute, oh my god, yeah that

703
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: I want to share with you.

704
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: I would love to hear it.

705
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: And by the way, I love poetry. Okay, so yes,

706
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: it's easy, but I love it.

707
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: I know, I don't hate it. I don't hate it

708
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: at all. I think it's quite enjoyable. But yeah, I will.

709
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: Say so yeah there in radio Land. I wrote this

710
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: in about yeah, one minute, And see if I can

711
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: get this published. Standing at the Mechanics, Coney Island Avenue,

712
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: weather Warning Pizza Shop sign Rocky Marciano mass plates in

713
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: the Big Apple when you fucked me hard after the game,

714
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: we went to Coney Island Avenue.

715
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 7: Milky coffee like my mother used to make at night.

716
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 7: I want the taste of the ocean, but I hate

717
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 7: salt red blue and white, white, blue and red American

718
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: flag popsicles. S ding ding, smoke is cloudy, my car

719
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 7: is ready.

720
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Whoa fuck? That was poetry poetry, and of course it's

721
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: like the repeating of the line of the Coney Island.

722
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: It's like, that's poetry one thing.

723
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: Do you want to know where I was coming from

724
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: with that or do you want to kind of interpret

725
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: it for yourself?

726
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that you were thinking about Italian food.

727
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: No. I had to take my car to the mechanic

728
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: today because there was something dragging under it.

729
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh gorgeous.

730
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and next to it is a pizza place called Rockies,

731
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: and it's of course so me. Their entire cash registers

732
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: just covered in police badges. Nice and there's tons of

733
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: photos of Rocky. So that was my pump.

734
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Is your car? Okay?

735
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually twenty bucks. They just drilled the piece

736
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: of plastic. Cars are always a thing where it's like, oh,

737
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: this losely either could be six hundred dollars where they're

738
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: just like you need to get your interim place, and

739
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: then this they actually just like drilled up a pizza

740
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: plastic like that's twenty dollars.

741
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: Could have done it yourself a duct tape.

742
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I did do it myself a duct tape, but I

743
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: decided to get it officially done. Wow wow, so responsible.

744
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm pretty responsible.

745
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for getting re certified. Okay, wait, so I

746
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: have two pumps here. I'll read one and then we'll

747
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: see how we feel. I always liked the lobster ravioli

748
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: at Crewe. It doesn't quite taste like lobster. It tastes

749
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: like my mother's perfume, dry with a hint of camamule

750
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: and vodka. It's comforting, like an old blanket you leave

751
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: in the back of your sob and take to the

752
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: beach at Maya Comet or Quidnet or Ladies Beach if

753
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: you're feeling frisky, feeling like you want to feel like

754
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: a teenager again. The last time I went to Crewe

755
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: was the first time I went without you, without you

756
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: ordering a glass of champagne just for yourself, and a

757
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: seafood tower so tall it could have been the old

758
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: North Church chiming its bells. One if by land, two

759
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: if by sea. One in your hand and the other

760
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: was me. When we dug the pit on the beach

761
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: at Eel Point to do the clam bake, and you

762
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: told me I wasn't digging deep enough. I said it

763
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: was because I didn't want to disturb the crabs homes,

764
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: and you laughed and said the crabs didn't care about

765
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: my pain. They only wanted me for my money. And

766
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: then we thought we saw Bill Clinton, but it was

767
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 2: just seaweed and shadows. One in the hand, the other

768
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: was me. The one in the hand was by Land,

769
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: a blonde from Cohasset. I thought she looked so beautiful

770
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: in her lily Pulitzer dress drenched in water at the

771
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: Fireman's Cannon fight on fourth of July. The other was

772
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: me dry. I told the man at the video store

773
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: on Main Street that I didn't want to rent The

774
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: blind Side anymore, because that was the movie during which

775
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: you kissed me while we shivered under the mowhair blanket

776
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: on my mother's couch. And the man at the video

777
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: store with the teeth as yellow as a New York

778
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: City taxi cab told me that the last person who

779
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: took it out never returned it. I couldn't even rent

780
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: it if I wanted to.

781
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Wow tragedy on Cape and the eyelids, and it's like,

782
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: was that about an ex? Or was about your mother?

783
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: It was about both and is your mother your ex?

784
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: And is I'm my mother?

785
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? And are you your mother's ex? And does she

786
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: have to make you an ex?

787
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: And this is what I'll say again, it's kind of

788
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: just like it's very just plugging your own references and

789
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: you have a poem. I know that we're both brilliant writers,

790
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: obviously and like, but still.

791
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: It's about repeating things yea, and then adding and line

792
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: breaks and then details, being like Mother ordered the Glass

793
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: of Champagne, the blind Side and screaming.

794
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: It's like when you're writing comedy, when you're writing a

795
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: fucking tweet, you're trying to make an observation. You're trying

796
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: to be funny. When you're writing an essay, you're trying

797
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: to make a point. When you're writing poetry, there's literally

798
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: no goal. It does have anything.

799
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: Well, he isn't the goal, because I mean there have

800
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: been poems that have changed the world, like how all

801
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: about Okay? Allen Ginsburg famous poem where he's like America,

802
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: I love you America, Like why are you breaking my heart?

803
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: Like America, what are you gonna do with the Adam

804
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Baumlana La, I'm from nowhere? Who am I to love?

805
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 5: La?

806
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I've got nothing who I am to love you when

807
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm falling this way? La not quite the City that

808
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: Never sleeps, like it's a full copy. And what I'm

809
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: obsessed with is I don't think she's ever heard that

810
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Allen Ginsburg America.

811
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Poem interesting even though this is like so the same format.

812
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's about like a city, a place breaking

813
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: your heart but you can't stay away from it.

814
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, I guess because Allan's were gay, and like, Okay,

815
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: is she a haghag?

816
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: That's another question. I think she does have a gay,

817
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: but I don't think she's a fag hag.

818
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, why do we know someone has

819
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 2: been at a party at her house? But I guess,

820
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: like La is so parties at houses, and obviously there's

821
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: going to be gays there, but it doesn't mean that

822
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: you're so Kathy Griffin and.

823
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Like, right, she's not having like what I think, like

824
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: fag hag. I'm like, is she having like a Rouhols

825
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: like full lance bass, like night over like Kelly rippa

826
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: fagcag Lana? But is she a fagcag in the way

827
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: that like dear friend, just like Sam Rosen is like

828
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: her gay even though he's not, but I mean like.

829
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: He's like a Tier seven Campetra's gay obviously. Yeah, Petris

830
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: is having all the gore als over, like are.

831
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: There other just kind of like stoner music gaze over

832
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: at her house who are just like girl, his dick

833
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: is huge, And she's like, I know.

834
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I kind of think literally no.

835
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to picture it, and I'm like.

836
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: I think there's like two gays who are kind of

837
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: mask and earring and like streetwear who are like have

838
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: been in a couple for ten years and they're like

839
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: quietly open and they're.

840
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: Wearing like Fear of God's sweatpants.

841
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and near her friends and she occasionally sees them.

842
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: But right, I don't think there's a crew of Gaze.

843
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: And when she is like in her truck blasting music,

844
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: like one of those gays is there, and then like

845
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: her sister yeah, and then like a boyfriend.

846
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: But he's not being just like oh my god, girl,

847
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: like the latest Azelia Banks, like Tirade is like going

848
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: off hunty, like.

849
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: You mean, her one game may be sending her a

850
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: link to the Azalia Banks like, and she's like not

851
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: responding to it. Yeah, I know because like wait, Iselia

852
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: it's just going off on Lana.

853
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: It's like, is anyone showing her that?

854
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know, I'm really picturing her so

855
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: again in this tutor house under the bridge, like so

856
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: just doing her own thing, but like at the same

857
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: time girls who were inside, like they're on their phone.

858
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know her being like her infamous like question

859
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: for the culture, like why does Niki get to be

860
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: celebrated for having an ask? Like that is very like Okay,

861
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: you are online, Yeah, you are aware what's going on?

862
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: So I guess somebody is sending her. They're sending her

863
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: AE links and it must be a gay.

864
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: So the Fear of God coupy, Yeah, the Fear of

865
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: God Essentials couple is sending her an Azalea link segments

866
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: bent over the grass? How does she live?

867
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: How does she wear?

868
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: What does she eat?

869
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: What did she eat?

870
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: And like chips, chips like lais popsicles? You know sidebar?

871
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: You know where there was no seltzer New Orleans And

872
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you about that in the VIP lounge.

873
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: Oh, other cities like don't like.

874
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: Literally other cities don't have Seltzer And it's anti semitic.

875
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: It is like once, I mean this was years ago

876
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: and she calls out no Seltzer and now like some

877
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: cities like do. But yeah, we'll get into the selter short.

878
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: Let's get into what is she ordering at McDonald's. I

879
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: think she's someone who orders chicken more at McDonald's.

880
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: You don't think she's so fish filet and a snack frap.

881
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: I think they just continue the snack rep.

882
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: Oh god, I know she's too.

883
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: Bad because that actually was kind of a low calories so.

884
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: Always like a perfect hundred cow pick me up on

885
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: the go.

886
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think she will be absolutely nasty.

887
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: And when they do the think she's chicken that big mac.

888
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: I mean I think she's honestly both, but like goes.

889
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: More chicken great, I mean that's more. Girls write the

890
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: mc chicken.

891
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: And I keep on seeing these so many ads for

892
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: the bacon ranch mccrispy, yeah you, and.

893
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: It's always like that and they do this huge over

894
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: the bacon like.

895
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't think she's doing that. I think she's just

896
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: like maybe chicken fries, chicken nuggets.

897
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, I met a food stylist in Tampa once

898
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: who told me that they use wind decks for food

899
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: photo shoots to get it shiny. That makes a lot

900
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: of those buns and the Mickeyde's ads are wind dexed up.

901
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: I knew you couldn't eat that stuff, but I didn't

902
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: know it was wind decks. I mean, windex is one

903
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: of my favorite products.

904
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 2: This is so you're the dad and my big.

905
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: Wedding for everything. And then I think she like has

906
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: made like her cop boyfriend like where she got like

907
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: flower tortillas and like did a Quesadia night and got

908
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: like Sargento shreds. She's just like microwave and then like

909
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: did like cut maybe like a rotisserie chicken and trended

910
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: or just you know what she is. She's getting the

911
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: pack of chicken breasts, nonstick pan, no salt or anything,

912
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: and she's just.

913
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: White people don't be sea.

914
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Like. White people don't know how to cook like and

915
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: then she's just cutting that up. No seasoning on the

916
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: flower tortilla, toasty do sala.

917
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's more of a late night sack when she's

918
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: home alone and Malibu and she's just like had a

919
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: couple of gorgeous like CBD and then is whipping up

920
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: this CBD Gummings from the Carli Claus's line or whatever.

921
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so curious about this stew.

922
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: The stew is not getting made. Does she wear as

923
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: we discussed, she's like amazing.

924
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: Little swede boots.

925
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Tank tops. I mean she's being very two thousand and three.

926
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sure she orders clothes from Amazon like our

927
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: dear friend Daniel does.

928
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of the pod Dan always wearing choos from Amazon.

929
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: I think she's an American.

930
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Here's a question. Do you think she does? You know

931
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: how like Amazon you can do like Prime wardrobe.

932
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with this procedure.

933
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't totally get what it is, but I've

934
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: seen it on their site. I think they kind of

935
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: send you clothes in a like Neta portra way, but

936
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: it's like Amazon.

937
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: Okay, and you can like what you don't send it back.

938
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: When is she doing Prime Amazon Wardrobe? And then obviously

939
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: like stylists are sending her stuff. But I think she's

940
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: just like I think she wears good Americans.

941
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure maybe somebody on clothes team sent

942
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: her like something at some point.

943
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: And I think she's a Victoria's Secret.

944
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: Like lingerie kind of girl.

945
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I'm like, is she that basic or

946
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: she pulling went on us?

947
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 2: Well, you would think that because she's so idolizing the

948
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: fifties and like, you know, I bet she loves De Devonte's.

949
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: I wonder what her relationship with her is. But it's like,

950
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: would she be more a provocateur and getting like a

951
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: sexy get up right?

952
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Maybe the lingerie is fancier.

953
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: And like, but she's a little bit more like Teddy

954
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: than she is like Whip and Corsett.

955
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like little Sea through Black Teddy

956
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: or like Pink. I think it's a little more like

957
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: playing with California and like.

958
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: And even a yellow I'll say it very yellow Teddy.

959
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: That would be very lemon tree California. And then I'm

960
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: sure she has her boyfriend box.

961
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: Oh wait, this is what I want to ask you about.

962
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: Do you have a boyfriend box?

963
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: So it's so funny because I wrote in my notes

964
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: I have several boyfriend boxes. One that actually does have

965
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: I feel like old photos concert ticket No, it literally

966
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: is like concert tickets, an old pen, like an old

967
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: photo from a past relationship. But it's also like stickers

968
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: and like an old tax form.

969
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those are the things that make you nostalgic.

970
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you hold on because you're like, well, I'm

971
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: not going to throw this out necessarily.

972
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: It feels hard because it's just a classic Maricondo thing.

973
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: But you worry that by throwing that out you've lost

974
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: any memory or connection. And you're like, no, I'm over

975
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: it's I'm not holding on to the sadness. I just

976
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: want to remember this happened. I want to remember that

977
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: I was alive once, because I'll go through and I'll

978
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: find these old like photos for me used to take

979
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: photos right of old boyfriends and ranom museum stubs, and

980
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: you're like, well, maybe this is a moment in time,

981
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: but a lot of the.

982
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: Time for me, Like you have a boyfriend, Box, I

983
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: think you're very I'm very.

984
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: To I famously put my last boyfriend's computer on the sidewalk,

985
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: which I am not going to apologize for, say loud

986
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: and proud of the pod and like I always am

987
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: like rummaging in my closet and finding this one like

988
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: weird like photostrip that I did at a weird tequila

989
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: activation that are DJed and it's me and my ex boyfriend,

990
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: Like just kind of looking like we're not having that

991
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: much fun, and.

992
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: It's just like like it took a while to get

993
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: in you waited for one to.

994
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Keep, and where you've seen like one like feather prop

995
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: that was given in the activation photo booth and you're

996
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: kind of like ha. And then I'm like, well, this

997
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: is just so random and emblematic of the fact that

998
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: maybe the relationship wasn't going that well that maybe it's

999
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: important to remember this so I don't like over and

1000
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: nostalgize it, you know what I mean.

1001
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: And then I also have photos that I've taken off

1002
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: my fridge of friends with their exes. I have like

1003
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: a friend's boyfriend's box, and I thank you for doing that.

1004
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: And then I am like, like, I remember I was

1005
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: having a party and I took a photo off and

1006
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: I was like it was right for the party, and

1007
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: I just kind of like shoved it in like some

1008
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: drawer so that.

1009
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't walk into your kitchen and be triggered. Yes,

1010
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: And now you're just.

1011
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: Like looking for like the lemon squeezer, and then I'm

1012
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: opening upm like okay, Polaroid, and I'm like and then.

1013
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: You started crying. Yeah, that summer I don't know. Yeah,

1014
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: we need to find some better way to I mean,

1015
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: maybe it is just about one box, and maybe she

1016
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: is right and just keep it in one place and

1017
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: so you're not constantly like running into these questions of like,

1018
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: oh I'm seeing it on the the drawer, I'm looking

1019
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: for something else. And if we just commit to keep

1020
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 2: it in it is one box.

1021
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: And then I have random you know, brick or bract

1022
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: But I think if you keep it to one box.

1023
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: But then that also feels so that movie Brittany Murphy

1024
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: like Little Black Book, where it's like your current lover

1025
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: is like looking for a tape dispensing box and they're

1026
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 1: like what is this and they're going through them. They're

1027
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: like does this still mean something to you? But it's

1028
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: also like you can hold on to memories and not

1029
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: miss them.

1030
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Or can you? M I leave you with that? Okay,

1031
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: who are you in? The wait?

1032
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: Does she live? The bedroom is messy and the living

1033
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: room I thing is the little bit like spared.

1034
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say it's a little bit empty.

1035
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: She's so curious. I'm like, I think that's high bed. Yeah,

1036
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: I think it's high bed with like brass humidifier.

1037
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: Yep, and like there's like six boyfriend boxes under the bed,

1038
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: and then the living room was very like there's a

1039
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: forty two inch or like even a thirty five inch TV,

1040
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: like sitting on top of a kind of like beat

1041
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: up old credenza and like one couch.

1042
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: Thirty five inch TV is crazy, that's like a computer.

1043
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: She to like reddressed up and she's so the fifties.

1044
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: No, I think it's huge stoner girl TV. Okay, And

1045
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: she's watching the game with the boyfriend. Yeah, like a

1046
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: low basketball just.

1047
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: Making her microwave nachos. Oh, it's so the.

1048
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: Volume volume, Yeah, what we're calling a low basketball game

1049
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: when girls watch basketball games their boyfriends volumes on like

1050
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: twenty two. That sound just saying that I can just

1051
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: hear it right now. And it is like a grinder

1052
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: and like blunt wrappers like on the coffee table.

1053
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: And she's walking out onto the balcony and looking at

1054
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: the beach and being like, m it's so pretty out

1055
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: and then going.

1056
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: Back inside and it's also like it's so bright to

1057
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: the basketball games on. It's like right outside.

1058
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: Well, she probably has like draw the curtains. There's not

1059
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: too much glare on the TV. For her Man's game.

1060
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: All right, who are you in the the book?

1061
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: I guess you are. Which Lana are you am?

1062
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: I Pilot Lessons?

1063
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: No, you're sailing lessons Lana. You're Catalina, right, because you're

1064
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: so not Yeah, I don't like get it. I think

1065
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: you it would be a little too anxiety with.

1066
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: The pilot dead right about that.

1067
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: But I think you really get into tying and like that,

1068
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: and you get a little outfit and a hat, and

1069
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: like you'd be like, yeah, my new thing is going

1070
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: to Catalina. I actually believe early because I have my

1071
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: Catalina Lessons tomorrow. I'm the Lana. I think I'm her.

1072
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: We have have the same favorite scent campfire.

1073
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: Oh wait, if you ask my sister what I smell like,

1074
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: she'll say campire. If I asked GEO, what would you

1075
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: smell like? She's used to like campfire?

1076
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Probably not. But like I'm like girl taking her phone

1077
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: out to talk outside.

1078
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

1079
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I relate with where you're like, oh, yes,

1080
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: like let's smoke a bowl and talk on the phone outside. Okay,

1081
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: I give this book. I give this book two point

1082
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: four f one fifty's out of five for staying on brand,

1083
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: for being a sad girl, for doing the cpatone Instagram photos.

1084
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: It's a little bit even longer than I expected, even

1085
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: though the audible.

1086
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: Clocks in at forty five minutes.

1087
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: But when I went to Barnes and Nobles to get this,

1088
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: I was just gonna read it there with my coffee,

1089
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: like sitting on the ground because I wanted to like

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Speaker 1: be such a long I'm not like dirty teen. And

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Speaker 1: then I was like, actually, you need to take this home.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful, Okay, take a while. So it actually surprised you

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Speaker 2: with the depth. Yeah, I'm giving this two out of

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Speaker 2: five gorgeous tart large California lemons. I just I'm not

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Speaker 2: so impressed. It doesn't feel very like of its time.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it could have come out fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: That's where I was like, you're a little more detailed

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Speaker 1: in your songs, like I wanted more retro stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, these feel like poems you wrote in

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Speaker 1: high school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then just all the choices being like so obvious

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Speaker 2: with the courier and the CPO parchment.

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Speaker 1: Extremely basic. It's literally just like Sylvia Plath made a path,

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Speaker 1: Like I.

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Speaker 2: Agree, I think her song lyrics feel more tangible and

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Speaker 2: creative and interesting than these two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is funny because it's like you'd think the

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Speaker 1: more basic lyrics would go to the song, right because

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Speaker 1: you can sing those and who cares right well?

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Speaker 2: But anyway, a lot of great work keeping and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to keep on. She has one more poetry book

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Speaker 2: than I do, so that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: We say, poetry is easy, but where's the book? Okay?

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Speaker 1: St Celebrity Book Club.

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Speaker 3: Is produced and edited by Darby Master, who I met

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Speaker 3: on the freeway smoking a cigarette. The supervising producer and

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Speaker 3: editor is Aboo Zafar, who doesn't love me like I

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Speaker 3: love him. Our executive producer is Christina Everett, who makes

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Speaker 3: the most delicious stew in all of San Fernando Valley.

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Speaker 3: Our theme song was produced by Stephen Philip's Horst, who

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Speaker 3: tells me I'm pretty, but I don't think he believes it.

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Speaker 3: Our logo was designed by Teddy Blanks at Chips Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: I Miss Him every Day.

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Speaker 2: CBC was originally conceived and created and birth by Prologue Projects.

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Speaker 2: Warm Wet Like the Womb, I can never return to

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