1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Mona said to take up your co. 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Take up your lungs. SHANSTI lo con come Oncoe, come down, 3 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: come down, I said, my silver stone. 4 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet world. Then welcome to the NODNGS podcast 5 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, Jenny seventeenth. Yeah, buddy, 6 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Jay skeets alongside me, has always Tasmellis. 7 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: What a trip the power of audio huh. 8 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: We got the beard one, Trey Kirby, Hey yo, the 9 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: international man of mystery taking it to the max. 10 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: Lee Ellis friend and last. 11 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: Definitely not least making the magic happen. Won an intro 12 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: It's JD. Hello, there he is and here we are tomorrow. 13 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: It marks the fourteenth anniversary of the start of this podcast. 14 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Jad's killing it today. Boys, Oh my goodness, Yes, happy 15 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: fourteenth anniversary to this podcast starting as the Basketball Jones 16 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: way way back January eighteenth, two thousand and six. 17 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: And those were all the intros that we've gone through 18 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: throughout the years. 19 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: That was That was fun there, JD. 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And 30 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: don't forget to grab your official No Dunks merch at 31 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: No dunks dot com. Lookshop, guys. This could be a 32 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: long epic drop here. We got a lot to get to. 33 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna pick our all star starters. We will fill 34 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: out our definitely not real ballot because they don't give 35 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: us one. We'll explain why Lebron James would beat a 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: horse at the Olympics. It's gonna be a fun tweet 37 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: of the night. Tweets of the night, I should say. 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: And hey, Southern lawyer, we got all sales a tray 39 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: that's right ta headed back to the Hawks. We can 40 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: break that one down in a little more detail, and 41 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: a lot of rumors sort of spiraling off of that, 42 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: both from the wool side of things and the Hawks haka. 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: But first quickly, just last night, some pretty incredible games. 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: Not a lot of games on, but some fun ones. 45 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram drops forty nine points as the Pelicans, they 46 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: survive disputed late call at the end of regulation once 47 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: again involving Rudy Gobert, and get it done in overtime. 48 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: This was the Ingram Versus Mitchell show, both guys going 49 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: for forty five plus so much fun back and forth affair. 50 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a huge question off of this. 51 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't even you know, it's not Is Ingram an 52 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: All Star you probably will be, or anything like that, 53 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: but the Pelicans snapping the Jazz winstreak. Just your takeaways 54 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: from this game or how entertaining it was. 55 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: Well, the fact that brandon Ingram hit a game winner 56 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: was a great sign for me, even though it wasn't 57 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: a game winner that was called back. I think the 58 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: entire Twitter sphere is calling it a game winner because 59 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: that bogus call on Rudy Gobert afterward, Well. 60 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: And the Pelicans went on to win, yeah, in overtime, 61 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: so it's just an extended. 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: Game, right. Well, I was debating whether or not the 63 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: game winner. You said, Skeats that he should be an 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: All Star. He definitely should be an Also, I was 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: debating whether or not that game winner gave him a 66 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: little bit more recognition because it was taken back or 67 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: if it was actually a game winner. And I think 68 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: maybe because it was taken back, a game a little 69 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: bit more spotlight because people were talking about the Pelicans 70 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: a little bit more because of the foul call, I think, 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: and people are noticing, well, brandon Ingram, what is this guy? 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: Who is this guy? And it's great that he is 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: taking that sort of that number one role. Has really 74 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: exceeded expectations. His talent level here in New Orleans after 75 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: moving on from LA has met opportunity or whatever one 76 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: of those cool sayings goes, and he's fantastic. And Zion 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: Williamson is the number two when he comes back next week, 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: which is kind of odd to say, but he's really 79 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: taking the reins. 80 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: It was nice to see the Smoothie King Center bumping 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: for that game. That's the very exciting part there for 82 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: a franchise that with Anthony Davis, you know, flor forcing 83 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: his way out and then then unfortunately the Zion injury. 84 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: It's it was it looked dire at times, like for 85 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: even just being a franchise in the foreseeable future with 86 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: what was going on there. Maybe that's up. Maybe I'm 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: exaggerating a little much. Maybe I'm not, But I like that. 88 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: I love the energy you start from the crowd because 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: it was a great game, and then yeah, oh yeah, 90 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: the Zion's coming back next week. 91 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: I like when the seats are full, by the way 92 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: in the SMOOTHI King Center, because the seats are ugly. 93 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: So I don't like seeing those chairs. Those I've been in. 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: I've been there and purpose and person, and I want 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: New Orleans to succeed, but I also want to remake 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: of that. Those pleathers they're not They're not so nice. 97 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: They need to be ripped out. 98 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 6: I'm gonna be the bad guy here, and I'll say 99 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 6: that I actually picked that foul was the right call. 100 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Okay. The reason I think Jackson Hayes was holding Rude Albert. 101 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: I didn't get. We didn't get like a reverse angle look. 102 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 6: I didn't see when we only got the sort of 103 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 6: front on on the side on and from what I 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 6: could see, like Rudy Gobert is being pulled down and 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 6: Jackson Hayes there's some Joscelyn he throws his hands out. 106 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 6: The referee is in fantastic position, and he called it. 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 6: And I actually think as much as it sucked and 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 6: I sort of took the air out of the Brandon 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 6: Ingram's game, we don't. I think the referees made the 110 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 6: right call. I'm so glad though that Pelican went on 111 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: to win in over time with Rudy only hit well, 112 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: simply because the last time these two teams played, there 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 6: was a missed call on Rudy Gobert that would have 114 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 6: sent Brown and England to the line to give him 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 6: a chance to send the games to overtime, and instead 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 6: this time the Pelicans go on to win. But I 117 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 6: will say for Brandon and Ingram, the points fantastic shot, 118 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 6: the ball well got to the free throw line sixteen 119 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: to twenty. Knock those down. He's an underrated playmaker. 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: One hundred percent true. Underrated, I thought, especially when they 121 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: started throwing more guys at him because he was on fire. Yeah, 122 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: some of those little dump passes were gorgeous. 123 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 6: And for a young guy who's really having his first 124 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 6: breakout season where he has the opportunity to take any shot, 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: he kind of has a green light there for him 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 6: to have the composure in close moments like that to 127 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 6: find the right play and make the right pass. I 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: think is more significant in terms of his growth than 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 6: just being able to score. I think coming out of college, 130 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 6: we knew he could score, we knew he could shoot. 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 6: He just hadn't really developed that yet. This year that's 132 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 6: come along, but he's also added something more significant to 133 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 6: his game, and it. 134 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: Was awesome to see. It's almost a throwback the way 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: he was hunting mid range because he's got the dirklight 136 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: qualities where once he gets to his spot, he's so 137 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: long and tall that you're basically not getting a hand 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: on it unless you're Rudy Gobert. And you know, he 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: had a nice challenge where he got called for a 140 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: foul and then the next time down it was Royce 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: O'Neil who was guarding Brandon Ingram, who was a lot 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: shorter than Rudy Gobert, and that was the bucket that 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: could have could have been the game winner, was the 144 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: game winner in waiting if you're will yes, But it's 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: such a double edged sword with that foul call, because 146 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: you're right, it was a foul call. It was a foul. 147 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: There was no doubt about it. But also you can't 148 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: just not call the foul because a guy hit a 149 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: game winner, but also in the last couple of seconds, 150 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: suck that whistledown Roughs. We don't need every single foul call. 151 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it was a foul. But I 152 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: think this is where common sense kind of has to prevail. 153 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: There was also another defender in Derek Favors on Rudy 154 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Gobert at the same time. He was right there, So 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't think Rudy Gobert is going to touch the 156 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: ball anyways, Like he was kind of out of the 157 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: play in a way. So I think does it really 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: matter as a matter if a guy gets yanked on 159 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: the sideline when it's a lot pass. I know he 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: wasn't on the sideline, but if you get what I mean, 161 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: he wasn't really going to affect it anyways. I think 162 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: the ref's got to say you're not going to touch 163 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: it anyways, no call, And it's two point two seconds left, 164 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: But I understand it. It was by the letter of 165 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: the law. 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think again, I just go back to 167 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 6: the referee's position. He's looking right at it. He had 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 6: a great unobscured view and he made the call, So 169 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 6: I think we have to give the referee credit for 170 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 6: that because he's probably thinking, like, man, do I have 171 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 6: to call this? He's probably you know, I mean, who knows. 172 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 6: He's in that arena where they've just had an exciting moment. 173 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 6: He's like, all right, I mean you have found it. 174 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: But I think as well, Jackson Hayes's reaction sort of 175 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 6: shows you that he knew he was doing something. 176 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't help himself. No, that's for sure. 177 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 6: No young guy, you know, think he'd get away with it, 178 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 6: and he didn't. But but again, the fact that the 179 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 6: Pelicans were able to sort of because Alvin Gentry was 180 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 6: fuming after the game went to overtime. 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: Would yeah, if it could have been if it went 182 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: on to lose it, especially if Gorbert has bulls on 183 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: they're just losing regulation. Yeah, it would have been like 184 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: the third game they've sort of got taken away from them, 185 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: could win that they got taken away. 186 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: Sorry for the fact that I ra would it didn't 187 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 6: go on and finished mightbe Jackson Hyes was like, you 188 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 6: know what, I want to see if Brandon can get 189 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 6: fifty tonight, so I'll extend the game. 190 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: They make your free throws. He had fifty Yeah, he 191 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: had forty eight one to the line, only hit one 192 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: or two. That was too bad, but well timed by 193 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: Brandon Ingram and also Donovan Mitchell. It was a double 194 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 4: day yesterday. They're not going to be getting into the 195 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: All Star starters. But if you're gonna both have forty spots, 196 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: I might as well do it when the votes count 197 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 4: twice one. 198 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Hundred percent true. And I think you're just keep an 199 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: eye on the box scores and some of these huge 200 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: lines are going to see in the next couple of 201 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: weeks here as I think some of these players, these 202 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: borderline All Stars, they're gonna be gunning a little bit 203 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: for some recognition from these coaches. And it doesn't hurt 204 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: when you go for yeah, forty nine or in Donovan's case, 205 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: forty six. Like Ingram was was playmaking, he was getting 206 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: to the line, like you said. Mitchell was just cooking 207 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: the Pelicans too, like No Drew Holiday that hurt the 208 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Pelicans chances. Obviously a great defensive player, he was I 209 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: thought embarrassing, like guys like Frank Jackson and each one 210 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: more who played pretty good deal on that last one 211 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: sort of in the overtime there and you know, help 212 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Mitchell missed the layup attempt. But other times, I mean 213 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Mitchell was having his way with those guys and it 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: was go check the highlights. I mean, even if you 215 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: watch the ten minute condensed version here this morning, you're 216 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: not going to be disappointed in this game. It had 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: at all back and forth. But Ingram, he's I think 218 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: he is going to be an All Star selected and 219 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: deservedly so. Guys twenty six points per game, seven boards, 220 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: four assists, forty eight percent from the floor, forty one 221 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: percent when you bump it up from three to eighty 222 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: six from the line, and his usage rate has skyrocketed 223 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: since becoming the go to guy from the Pelicans, obviously 224 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: coming from the Lakers. He's up to around thirty percent 225 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: usage rate. I mean it's close to that. So he's 226 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: being asked to do a lot, but he's remaining efficient 227 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: and obviously getting buckets. He's also going to be in 228 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: the conversation I think for most improved. I think I 229 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: don't see how you know how he isn't. There's some 230 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: there's some second year guys that especially started hot, like 231 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: a DeVante Graham. We talked about Kelly who bres definitely improved. 232 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: His his case seems to be falling off a little bit. 233 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: I think that Ingram's got to be the leader right now. 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because over you know, the last couple of seasons, 235 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: it is that the voters tend to like that idea 236 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: of like, hey, you were good and then wow, you 237 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: might be great, like you went to an all star level. 238 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: And that's sort of what Ingram's going to have in 239 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: his back pocket there. But that's a long time from now. 240 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: Fun fun game and again Pelicans snapped the Jazz win streak. There. 241 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: The other game from last night, just to we can 242 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: quickly touch on the Celtics, they scrapped their way back 243 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: into a game against Milwaukee Bucks, but the Bucks survived. 244 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: They held on. They proved to thirty seven and six. 245 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Bucks are thirty seven and six. They This 246 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: was a weird game because they had like two massive 247 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: leads in this game. Bucks up huge, Celtics sort of 248 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: come back. 249 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Bucks. 250 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: It was with you, honest on the bench, you know, 251 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: make it another huge lead and here come the Celtics again. 252 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: It was a strange game. What's the takeaway from this 253 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: one for you? 254 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think the Bucks. They built that early late 255 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 6: and probably took their foot off the gas a little bit. 256 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 6: Celtics came back. You know, there was another Brown there 257 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 6: for Boston. Gordon up excuse me, Kimba walk was was 258 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 6: brilliant for the Celtics, but it probably got a little 259 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 6: closer than I think the Bucks would have liked it 260 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 6: to have been towards the endbit. But the question I'll 261 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 6: take out of this one is seventy in play here 262 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 6: for the Bucks. I mean they're on pace for it 263 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 6: seventy wins. 264 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean sure with the way they handle 265 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: their business and go about taking every game. So seriously, 266 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I think it's in play. Yes, I mean, I guess 267 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: my gut still says they'll fall short of seventy. Yeah, 268 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: but my goodness, it's got to be sixty five plus. 269 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: At this point. 270 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: They've only got six losses and two of them came 271 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: in the first week of the season. They started two 272 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: and two. That's just pretty crazy to think about. So yeah, 273 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: I mean, this doesn't seem like a team that's ever 274 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: gonna take their foot off the gas or rust. I mean, 275 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: maybe once it gets down to the last week of 276 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: the season. It's like what's the point of playing Giannis? 277 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: What we've locked out the number one? See, do we 278 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: know who we're gonna be facing in the first round? 279 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 4: Perhaps then you're sitting and then you're getting into the 280 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: nitty gritty of you need one more win to get 281 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: to seventy. It's definitely possible. There's the playoff year will 282 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 4: be the question for the Bucks because they're gonna be 283 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: great for the entirety of the regular season and then 284 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,479 Speaker 4: as we saw last year, they petered out in the playoffs. 285 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 4: But I don't know. Yeah, it's good to win games, 286 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: even if it's in the regular season. Winning seventy games 287 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: is pretty cool. 288 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think Jannas is the MVP leader again 289 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 6: right now. I mean he's been I think I've had 290 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: Lebron up there, but I think Yannis, with what he's doing, 291 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: with what the team is doing win wise, he's sort 292 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 6: of stretching that lead quite a bit as well. And 293 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 6: that might factor into it as well with the Bucks 294 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 6: if they're getting close, do they feel if Yanniss wrapped 295 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: it up or if he needs to keep playing those 296 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: games to sort of secure the MVP. Will that be 297 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 6: a factor. But I mean, right now, like the Bucks. 298 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 6: It just sort of feels like whenever they want to 299 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: put their foot down, they can take the game away 300 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 6: from anybody. That's almost like the Warriors in their sort 301 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: of prime days there where you know, teams can kind 302 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 6: of hang with them for a bit, but when they 303 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: really feel like it, they're just so much better and 304 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 6: they can do it at both ends. And last night, 305 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 6: you know, Boston, Boston had a chance to sort of 306 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 6: steal this game, but they just couldn't. 307 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Yet reason really to The Bucks were up whatever twenty 308 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: five or whatever it grew to as big as it got. 309 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean they could miss a three. 310 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a huge part of it. 311 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: They would have been winning regardless because they're still a 312 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: great team at that point, but it just would have 313 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: been a lot closer in the box score because they 314 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the first time they couldn't miss. Everybody was hitting threes, 315 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: don't thee de Vicenzo was on fire and all these 316 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: guys and George Hill can't miss all season. It's yeah, 317 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: it's will that will that continue in the playoffs. But 318 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: the games like this are good because I liked when 319 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Giannis went to the bench in a lot of this game. Well, 320 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks were fine I mean they were they would 321 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: hold their own or even build the lead any even 322 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: a bit more with some of these guys coming in, 323 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: So that's a good sign for the future. 324 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, the fourth quarter was just a little bit weird. 325 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: It's seemed like a football game where one team has 326 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: a lead, so they're just running the ball the entire time. 327 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: That's the Bucks. They posted up Giannis like time and 328 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: time again, just letting them booty on down there, whereas 329 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: the Celtics were on the other side, they were throwing bombs. 330 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: They're throwing hail Mary's five threes in the fourth quarter, 331 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: and you know, the slow down offense doesn't always work 332 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: in the NFL, doesn't always work in the NBA. But 333 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: they had a big enough lead that it ultimately did 334 00:14:59,440 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: not matter. 335 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: It mattered to us with the pick them. But we'll 336 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: get to that in days. Infuriating that part, but that's 337 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: a little bit later, all right, Let's get to the 338 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: Hawks Wolves trade. Yesterday, the Hawks and Timberwolves, they pulled 339 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: off the second trade of the NBA season. It was 340 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: a blockbuster. Atlanta traded Alan Krabb to Minnesota in exchange 341 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: for old friend Jeff Tigue and Treveon Graham what who 342 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: was the first one to break this story? The move 343 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: reunites the Hawks Fatigue, former All star point guard whom 344 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: they traded prior to the sixteen seventeen season. Who wins 345 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: the trade? Or you know, what are the Minnesota Timberwolves 346 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: doing here? However you want to go about it. What 347 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: did you think about the deal yesterday? 348 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: Well, the Hawks won because they got the better player 349 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: and they're trying to win games. So Hawks fans are 350 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: yelling and screaming, well, why are we trying to win games? 351 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: And then I mean, you can still win games in 352 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: the NBA, that's still okay. I think that I think 353 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: it's all right to try and win basketball games, and 354 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: that's what they're trying to do. And in an Eastern conference, 355 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: as we talked about on our mid season Mark Word 356 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: Association podcast, anything can happen in the East. Anything can happen. 357 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: So they won, and I guess the Wolves are are 358 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: looking at trying to acquire D'Angelo Russell. But the odd 359 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: thing is apparently Jeff Tigue's contract could be added to 360 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: somebody else's contract in a multiplayer trade. You could trade 361 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: Jeff Teague with somebody else for Dangel Russell on the trade. 362 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: But you can't trade Alan Krabb with somebody else, scoring 363 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: to John Hollingdry of the Athletic can't aggregate him with 364 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: another guy, So that's that's that obviously makes it a 365 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: little bit more difficult to trade for Dangel Russell, which 366 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: is an interesting move. Maybe they need a three way 367 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: deal most likely, I would say, because I doubt the 368 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: Warriors are looking at multiple players on the Wolves that 369 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: they want long term. So that's where we are. 370 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you guys think from the Hawks getting Tea. 371 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a bit of a bandaid solution. He's 372 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 6: a free agent at the end of the season. 373 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: So that's all right. It was an open wound when 374 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Trey Young was on the bench. The Hawks were being 375 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: outscored by fourteen pointssions. 376 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, if this is just in anyway try to appease 377 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 6: Trey Young to say, look, we've got you some support here. 378 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: It's kind of like, okay, but what's the long term 379 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 6: do you what's the long term play here? Because maybe that. 380 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: But it's it's like back to your band aid. It's like, hey, 381 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: let's stop the bleeding. 382 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so I guess I guess the Hawks are 383 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 6: hoping that will do enough to sort of keep Trey 384 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 6: happy for the remainder of this season. Should Tig stay because. 385 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: Good point, he'll be a good backup point guard if 386 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: he plays his role. He's yeah, but decently. 387 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 6: I just I mean, how many more games of the 388 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 6: Hawk's gonna win? We see their handful maybe I'm not. 389 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: Sure, okay, but lost anything. 390 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, all three guys of all of this are expiring contracts, 391 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: so there's yeah, you're not tying yourself down any more money. 392 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: And I think Hollander, I like this point that I 393 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: saw him on the athletic The Hawks maybe are doing 394 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: this the whole idea of like, yeah, of course they 395 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: want to win more games. Everybody does, but it's really 396 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 1: it's really the development getting another guy like Tea. It's 397 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: the development in their other young players in your Camradish, 398 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: in your DeAndre Hunter, in You're Kevin Herder, to have 399 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: a real competent backup point guard, another card of vet 400 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: to help push those guys sort of into the right roles. 401 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: So now you have a real point guard of there 402 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: for forty eight minutes. I think that's that makes a 403 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: lot of sense that he could just help getting a 404 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: guy like team could actually help them. I see the 405 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: reasoning there from the Hawks. 406 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Kevin Herder has done an okay job distributing the ball. 407 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: He's almost at four assists the game, which I think 408 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: is probably where he would top out ultimately. But he's 409 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: a catching shoot guy. Really is what he's going to 410 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: be if the Hawks ever becomes something with this core. 411 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: So he needs somebody to pass in the ball. Teague 412 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 4: is a dude who pounds the ball, but he can 413 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 4: still break down a defense. He'll be good against second 414 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: units and just a little bit more professional. At least 415 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 4: there's somebody there to hook up the guys that Trey 416 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: Young can't hook up. 417 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 6: The only thing with Trey Young though, excuse me with tigue. 418 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 6: When he was here with Dennis shrewd up, they didn't 419 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 6: get along and he felt that Shrewder was trying to 420 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 6: steal his job. So he doesn't have a great reputation 421 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 6: of sort of developing guys. Now, maybe he's not. 422 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: Right matured or been humbled a little bit exact. 423 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's I guess what the Hulks are hoping for. 424 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 6: And if that works out, then those young guys it's great, absolutely, 425 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 6: but overall. I mean, I don't really see a whole, 426 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: you know, whole overhaul here from the Hawks. I don't 427 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 6: see much more changing unless they've got another deal that 428 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: they're looking at in mind to somehow use Tea there. 429 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 6: So we'll see I mean Tea. Yeah, he's he's quick. 430 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 6: He's kind of underrated with his ability to play make 431 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: at times, but he does tend to hang onto the 432 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: ball as well, So we'll see. We'll see what he 433 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 6: brings to Atlanta. Because he's been to Indiana, he's been 434 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 6: to Minnesota and things. I mean, he's he's probably looking 435 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 6: for a fresh start as well out of Minnesota because 436 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 6: it's pretty ordinary looking at that roster right now. 437 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, on the from the Wolves side of things, you know, 438 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: some people are wondering, well, maybe they're just going to 439 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: take a flyer on Alan Krab. He used to be 440 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: a good three point shooter. He hasn't been this year. 441 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: The Wolves are really leaning into that that type of game. 442 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: Take a ton of three point attempts, which they do. 443 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: They rank third in the NBA, jacking up nearly thirty 444 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: nine per game. They just can't hit them. They're one 445 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the league. In terms of 446 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: percentage wise. Oh maybe Alan Crab can suddenly find, you know, 447 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: some of that magic that helped get him the big 448 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: contract because he was a good three point shooter for 449 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: a good chunk of time there. He just had a 450 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: bad year. It frees up another roster spot, Like Tass said, 451 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: maybe there's more moves to be made. Is it trying 452 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: to get a better point guard to then pair with 453 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns? Possibly? I saw it at tea Wolves 454 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: blug tweet though, who is the new scapegoat for the Wolves? 455 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: Because a lot of Minnesota Timberwolves fans, you know, would 456 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: points some blame at Jeff teak Is he struggles at 457 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: time like get the ball to a town's and you 458 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: know he's not an a lead point guard. I think 459 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: we all agree with that. But is it Wiggins again 460 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: will be the scapegoat? Yeah? Can't they say it can't 461 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: be Ryan Saunders yet because he's got another good twelve 462 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: months before he could be. It's true, it's like probably 463 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: Wiggins again. 464 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be Wiggins. And I mean maybe you'll 465 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 4: get a little bit at Jarrett Culver scapegoating here because 466 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: he has also not been very good he's shooting somehow 467 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: forty four percent from the free throw line. And this 468 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: was a guy in college who was like a decent 469 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: free throw and I don't know, at least gives a 470 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 4: little bit more responsibility, even more so to Wiggins and 471 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: to Culver, and the Wolves are going to get a 472 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: look at those guys. See how Wiggins can can hang 473 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: as the number one guy who is supposedly going to 474 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: be distributing the ball, because he's basically going to be 475 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 4: doing all that in Culver also was sort of like 476 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: a James Harden style shooting guard point guard in college. 477 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: So they'll give him some shots to try and get 478 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: the offense going. But nothing's gonna happen until Town's gone. 479 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: Pack. 480 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: Your offense is going to be bad until you get 481 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: your best player. 482 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: Shaba's napier playing the point there too. For the For 483 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: the Wolves, he's been all right. Actually, I guess they 484 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: liked him more than they were getting from Tigue. Here 485 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: you go the athletics. Sean's Sharanya and John Koshinski reported 486 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: that the Wolves they continue to pursue that D'Angelo Russell 487 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: and they've had discussions regarding moving Robert Covington Covington so 488 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: hot right now NBA trade deadline. I love that. I 489 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: love when a guy like Covington is suddenly the next 490 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: hottest thing. He's a good player, I know. I was 491 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: making fun of it a little bit last night on Twitter, saying, 492 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: I like when that deadline thirst turns guys like Covington 493 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: into the next Scottie Pippen, because that's what happens. It's like, uh, 494 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, and again he's good. He's good three in 495 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: d guy. But okay, okay, let's relax here. Everybody suddenly 496 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: wants him. Will the Wolves make some more moves here? 497 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: Like and what is there to be made? Especially with 498 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: this like your task you were saying this crazy little 499 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: Hollander note about you can't even pair Crab was another 500 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: guy to move him? That's wild. 501 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't ceba it, but I don't understand it. 502 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: Why that's the case. Yeah, it's strange. It is definitely 503 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: strange unless they have a three way deal in mind. 504 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure they want to go after Dangel Russell. But 505 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: it's also hard for the Warriors to trade apparently before 506 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: the before the trade deadline, and it'd be easier in 507 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: the summer because they're not hard capped, right, that makes sense, 508 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: I guess, But I think I think, I don't know. 509 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: It seems like the Wolves will end up with d 510 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: Angela Russell because I gotta remember, the Warriors didn't give 511 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: up a lot for dangel Russell. Well, they gave up 512 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. Well, they didn't really give up Kevin Durant. 513 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean he did come from the Brooklyn Nets. Kevin Durant. 514 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: Apparently he said, hey, I want you to trade for 515 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: something for me. You can't just let me go. You 516 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: get to get something in return. I don't want the 517 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: history books to see you traded me for a draft pick. 518 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: So get the Angel Russell back. So I don't think. 519 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: I don't think the Warriors will desperately hang on to him. 520 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: I think they're going to trade him at. 521 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: Some point, right, just maybe not here before the deadline. 522 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, maybe not. 523 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 6: I think there's a bit of value there for Russell. 524 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 6: He's been good at times for them, so I think 525 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 6: they'll also try to drive up the price if if 526 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 6: Minnesota it becomes desperate. Just a little concern though, if 527 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 6: Minnesota is trying to pair Russell just because he's friends 528 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 6: with towns a little concerned about that whether he would 529 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 6: or what. I like friendship, but you don't let the 530 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 6: players sort of decide who they're playing with, you know, 531 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 6: because if it backfires, then what happens. 532 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Well it is a little weird too, because they've talked 533 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: who's the Wolves GM thank you. He has talked about 534 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: like how Tigue he didn't really fit the style they 535 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: wanted to play because he's dribble, dribbled, ribbled, a little 536 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: bit more penetration, not really swinging the ball, and you know, 537 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: like that, well that's sort of Russell a little bit. 538 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: So that is, you know, he's a much better player 539 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: than Teague, but he sort of does the same thing, 540 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: just being a lot younger at it and a lot 541 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe better at it. So yeah, we'll see if Russell 542 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: ends up making his way. I'm with you, tak. It 543 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: just feel like it is eventually going to happen. I 544 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: just I'm with you. I don't maybe not before the deadline, 545 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: but maybe in the summer that he's gonna get there. 546 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: He's gonna get there. 547 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like one team doesn't really want Dangel 548 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: Russell's part of the future, and the other team desperately 549 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: does so why wouldn't they make it happen in some way, 550 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: shape or form. And yeah, they're buds, and maybe that's 551 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: not a great sign. That being said, the Wolves need 552 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: good players and who are the best players that have 553 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: played around Karl Anthony Towns. They had Jimmy Butler for 554 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: a quick run. But besides that, Okay, that's right, that's right. Silence, Yeah, 555 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: year twenty Kevin Garnett. Yeah, that's about it. 556 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: According to Yeah Who Sports Chris Haynes, the Hawks back 557 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: to them for a second. They're no longer engaging with 558 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: the Detroit Pistons on a tray that would have landed 559 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: them all star big man Andre Drummond that now dead 560 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: deal in theory, would have sent Detroit would have seen Detroit, 561 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: excuse me, received Demian Jones, Chandler Parsons or Alan Crabb 562 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: and a first round pick for Drummond. So you know, 563 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: Crab of course now to Minnesota, So that part's not happening, 564 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: and I guess this is done anyway, ok ces. Steven 565 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: Adams is also on the Hawks radar and talks could 566 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: potentially pick up Stem as the deadline looms. What do 567 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: you what do you think of that little teas. He 568 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: would love to have steps in Atlanta. 569 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we could do stuff with him all the time. 570 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 6: He'd be great. I definitely think the Hawks could use 571 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 6: another big, another body. I think he fits that bill 572 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: for them very well. I think I think it'd be 573 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 6: good for John Collins to have another good, solid vet there. Yeah, 574 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 6: so yeah, I would like it. 575 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: Why would the thunder do? 576 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: Yeah exactly. The speculation, of course, is like, we're everyone's 577 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 6: interested in the other teams good players. Sure, what are 578 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 6: you gonna you know, what are you going to give 579 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: up to in order to acquire him? But and we 580 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 6: know Sam presteve man, if he if he calls you 581 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 6: and he's making a deal, walk away from it because 582 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: you know he gonna horge you for sure. 583 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: But if you are the Hawks, do you like the 584 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: idea of going after someone like Adams more than Drummond? 585 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: I do. I like just the veteran presence a little 586 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: bit more. I think Drummond is no doubt more skilled, 587 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: but I think Adams brings more winning qualities to a team. 588 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 4: He's going to be, you know, sett in the screens, 589 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: He's got the defense figured out, not necessarily as dynamic 590 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: as a rim protector as Drummond would be, not even 591 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 4: as dynamic as a rebounder as Drummond would be. But 592 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: I think you're learning more from Steven Adams than you're 593 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: learning more from Andre Drummond. 594 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: I agree with that. But what's so funny about that 595 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: is Adams is twenty one days older than Andre Drummond. 596 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 597 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Sure, that's so weird. 598 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he feels like a young series. 599 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels like six or seven years older than Drummond, 600 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: who also feels like he's a lot older than twenty six. 601 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Both those guys being twenty six. 602 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: Is But Steven Adams has also played on playoff teams 603 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: for his entire career. He has been on winning teams. 604 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: He just he knows the NBA a little bit better 605 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: I think than Andre Drummond would. 606 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think there will be any disputes 607 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 3: as to who gets the ball with Steven Adams, while 608 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: Andre Drummond he definitely wanted to play make a little 609 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: bit more and was a little disappointed when Blake Griffin 610 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: came back and he didn't get to touch it as much. 611 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: So Steven Adams knows that that's where he excels, and 612 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: then he'll be fine with that. 613 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: With the way the Hawks are roll excuse me, with 614 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: the way okay, see are rolling right now, it's tough 615 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: to see them move in Adams unless they just got 616 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: unbelievable package coming back, and I don't really see what 617 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: that would be. 618 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: From the hash, is he. 619 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: All right after? 620 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 6: Is actual? Yes, he's had whiplashes something car crash. 621 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: One more nugget actually from Haynes. Guys, According to his sources, 622 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Grizzlies rookie Jah Morant has decided not to participate in 623 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: the NBA Dunk Contest during All Star Weekend in Chicago 624 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: next month. Maintaining good health for the duration of the 625 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: season is his main priority. Again, according to Haines sources. 626 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: Now the good news from Haynes, Morant hasn't ruled out 627 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: participating in future dunk contests. Okay, that's good. There's that 628 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: little nugget there. And word is coming off of this 629 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: that Miami Heat high flyer Derek Jones Junior is going 630 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: to receive a formal invitation. We had talked about in 631 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: the past. I thought he and maybe already had, but 632 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I guess he hadn't, but maybe, yeah, exactly, So, now 633 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: the official evite has been sent to Derrek Jones Junior 634 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: will see how he responds. I guess, look, it's a bummer. 635 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: I think everyone, no one would have been upset to 636 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: see Moranton and with what he can do and at 637 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: his age. And I guess I'm a little bummed too. 638 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's not gonna be six dunkers the 639 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: more I think about it. Now, if this is the case, 640 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: it's we're going we're gonna stick with the four. So 641 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: who is the four gonna be? I mean it's it's 642 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna be well, I don't we don't even know. Is 643 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: Hamadu Diallo gonna get a chance to defend we there's 644 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: been I don't think any word on that. 645 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 646 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: And then Zach Lavine's a maybe if he's in the 647 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: dunk hunt, if it makes the All Star Game, he'll 648 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: may be dunk Aaron Gordon has talked about wanting to 649 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: dunk again and maybe battling Zack Lavine again. And then 650 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: I think Derek Jones jright, so we have so it's 651 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: dwighten or not. 652 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 6: We don't know this is this is actually good for 653 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 6: Dwight because he's building up that. 654 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: I think I think he's Okay, I forgot about what 655 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: You're right. It sounds like he's in, so yeah, yeah, 656 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 657 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: Is five? 658 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it does six. Maybe I'm completely wrong. I don't know. 659 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: I thought I knew everything about the Dunk Contest. I 660 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: know nothing. But I'm bummed that John Moran's not going 661 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: to be in it. But hopefully he does go in 662 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: it and in the next year or two. 663 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see. I'm a little dubious about him ever 664 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: going in. If he's not going in as a rookie 665 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: and he's already becoming a star, are you going to 666 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 4: go in when you're a superstar? We shall see. But 667 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: at least he's being intellectually consistent. The guy was resting 668 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: earlier in the season because he had surgery during the summer. 669 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: So if you're going to say you're all about your 670 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: health in the first month of the season, it's good 671 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: to say you're all about your health for an All Star. 672 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: But he was also invited to the skills contest, right, 673 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 3: I felt like that was an invite. 674 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but. 675 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just dribbling, tossing through a hoop, dribbling 676 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: the their way, kind of hitting one of those fake 677 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: men and then laying it up. That's it. And so 678 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: it's really it's really easy on the body. With that being said, 679 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: if you're resting, you're resting, right. 680 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well he's going to be playing. He's gonna be 681 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: on the Friday night game too. Rising Stars. I actually 682 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: think you can't quote me on this, but I think 683 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: there is something with the skills challenge that it's a 684 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit more like you gotta do this, like a 685 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: little bit more like in the you know, the Players 686 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: Association type thing. I don't think it's as easy to 687 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: get out of it. Let's just put it that way. 688 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I think when they ask, you're like, you 689 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: sort of got to, especially if you're a young guy. 690 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't quote me on there, but anyway, 691 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: you're right, he's going to be doing stuff at All 692 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Star Weekend. I guess dunking is that's going to be 693 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: the most mentally exhausting to try and plan for. 694 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 695 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 4: Maybe it's like the home run derby. You know, the 696 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: baseball players don't want to go in it because they 697 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: don't want to mess with their swing for the second 698 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: half of this season. So maybe jaws rolling right now, 699 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: he's like, I don't want to be just jumping all 700 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: the time. 701 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So hopefully he goes into the future. Hey, look, 702 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm still a wholding note of hope as I will. 703 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 6: Go why not this season? 704 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: Sure? 705 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Come on, he's well rested. 706 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 6: I will say that does. Pre game dunks were saying 707 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 6: he's looking great. But I just don't think I don't 708 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: think it would be a great look for Chemo. The 709 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 6: Pelicans getting the dunk. 710 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: People would love it. 711 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: That's amazing that we got to say a young twenty 712 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: year old needs to save four jumps, like, come. 713 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: On, hey, it could be six jumps. 714 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would and he asked to practice. 715 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: Plus he's running through that skills challenge. A lot of 716 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: twisting could be bad on the back. 717 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever got injured in the skills challenge? I 718 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: don't think of dangle. I guess I could help. 719 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, throw a really bad pass at Ricochet's back breaks 720 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: your nose, all right? 721 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, no dram Moran in this one, but hopefully 722 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: in the future. Okay, let's get two worst of the 723 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: week ladies and gentlemen. 724 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: The worst of the week. Three men on the board 725 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: this week. The second runner up, Drake the Global Ambassador 726 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: Drake meant, well, his intentions were in the right place. 727 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: I do believe. But here's what happened. ESPN's Ramona Shelburne 728 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: published an extensive piece about how Paul George made his 729 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: decision this past summer to return to LA and play 730 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: for the Clippers. Drake comes in and offers his house 731 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: to Kawhi Leonard, his house in California where Kawhi can 732 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: take meetings and discuss with men like Paul George decide 733 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: what they're gonna do. What obviously ended up happening was 734 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard's decided, along with Paul George, that we're leaving. 735 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm leaving Toronto, come join me in La. Drake, the 736 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: global Ambassador, set the table for his best player to leave. 737 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: Now hurts Yeah, if conspiracy theorists will say, hey, he's 738 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: always had bigger intentions than just being on the sideline 739 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: of basketball game is. He's wanted to be the Miami 740 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: Heat's best friend. He tried to get in their locker 741 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: room when they want a championship. He walks down with 742 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: did he ever walk down with a boxer? 743 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 4: No? 744 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 3: That I'm thinking of Justin Bieber Now with Meyway but 745 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, I kind of see them in the same light, 746 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: like he's always tried to front run a little bit. 747 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: But I think in this situation he did take up 748 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: a friendship with Kawhi Leonard over this past year and said, Hey, 749 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: here's my house, you rich man. I guess you can't 750 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: afford your own house to rent for for a week. 751 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: So here's my house. Here are the keys. So you know, 752 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: maybe it's friendship. I think it's just, uh, it just 753 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: happened out this, It happened this way. I don't think 754 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: there was any ill will or by Drake. 755 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Drake's got a bigger pool than y too. At that 756 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: house in LA That's a good point, I think. 757 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: I think Will Loud tweeted a picture there Drake does 758 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: have a jersey of Kawhi Leonard from the Raptors hanging 759 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 4: in that very house. So yeah, I don't know. I mean, 760 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: it's just that's just the kind of detail you hope 761 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: doesn't come out when it comes down to free agency recruiting, 762 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: that your global ambassador is literally setting a table, making 763 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: a bed for you to go to another team. But 764 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: he seems like it was a done deal even before that. 765 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: Why I told Drake. Hey man, I'm not coming back 766 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: to the Raptors, but can I borrow your safe house 767 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: in Calabasses? 768 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 6: You think that was seabowling together? 769 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: Wow, Paul George and Kawhi Leonard hitting the pool dropping 770 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: some sea balls. 771 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Probably, I could see Kawhi Leonard dropping a good seaball. 772 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: He looks like he's got some hidden wait to him. 773 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, his bones are heavy. 774 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, definitely he would be a better cannonballer 775 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: than Paul George. Paul George too smooth. He just slipped 776 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: right in the water. 777 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 778 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: First runner up Pelicans guard JJ Reddick, who commented this 779 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: week on his podcast that players are more concerned with 780 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: getting off Instagram fits posting their outfits on Instagram, more 781 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: concerned with that than playing basketball. Now, Jj, it's a 782 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: business man. Don't be an old head like me and 783 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: be worried about people on Instagram. The more Instagram followers 784 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: you got, the more money you make. It's one equals 785 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: the other, and that's all it is. 786 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: That's their currency. 787 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very important. I saw this brought up on 788 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 3: Twitter Kyle Kuzma. He's a bench player now, hasn't really 789 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: done a lot in the NBA. But he's got four 790 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 3: million followers on Instagram. He's got a Puma deal because 791 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 3: of it. People care about what he wears and his shoes, 792 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: et cetera. It is currency. It's true. 793 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: There was a great, great video I saw le Jethro 794 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: Jenkins with Yahoo Sports, Yeah, breaking it down and it's 795 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: not wrong, and he brought up kuz when you're right. 796 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: Yes, so that's what it is, and that's okay. It's business. Yeah, 797 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: and you're it's just a post and you also do 798 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 3: it too, JJ Reddick. You post a lot of your 799 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: Instagram fits on the Instagram definitely. 800 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: And when he was a younger man, you know, like 801 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: six or seven years ago, he was big in the 802 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: watch world. JJ Reddick was like mister vintage Watches. He 803 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 4: was showing up on podcasts talking about watches. He had 804 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 4: a whole series with this site called Hodinki that sells 805 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: vintage watches. He was deep in the Instagram fits game. 806 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 4: His fits were watches, which is nice. You know, you 807 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: gotta stay timely, gotta keep your appointments. But still that's 808 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: an outside interest. You're allowed to have. 809 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: Him totally totally and and yeah, it's it's actually it's 810 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 3: about making money. It's not just about looking shop and 811 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: getting likes. It's about it's an investment. But the worst 812 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: of the week winner is NETS guard Kyrie Irving and 813 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: comments after Brooklyn lost, Yeah, we talked about it and 814 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: it needs to be said again. After Brooklyn lost, Kyrie 815 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: Irving said, hey, yeah, you young guys, you made the 816 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: playoffs last year. I'm paraphrasing, but it's essentially, you guys 817 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: made the playoffs last year, but we all know this 818 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: team isn't good enough. There will be changes in the 819 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: summer and I will work that out with player X 820 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: player X, player x player X. He named some guys. 821 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to name them again because people say, well, 822 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: maybe he was just naming guys and not naming the 823 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: entire roster. It doesn't mean he didn't want the entire 824 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: roster to stay. Well. He basically said, yeah, you guys 825 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: were good enough last year to make the playoffs, but 826 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: we're not good enough. Things got to change by this, 827 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: coming off a six for twenty one night where he 828 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: had a bad night and really repeating a lot of 829 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: the things he did last year as a ball Celtic 830 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 3: that earned him a lot of negative headlines where he 831 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: put down his quote unquote young teammates. I don't see 832 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 3: how it's much different at all, and he didn't learn 833 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 3: from that. I find it surprising. Also, big picture zoom out. 834 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: This team did make the playoffs. You add an all 835 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: star in Kyrie Irving, you should be a top four seed. 836 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: And why shouldn't he take that mentality? Why shouldn't he 837 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: say I'm gonna lead this team to the Promised Land 838 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 3: instead of saying, and I'm not reading into it, he 839 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: said this team isn't good enough. We got to make changes. 840 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: That is exactly what he said. Glaring, yeah, glue, this 841 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 3: is their glaring differences or there's a glaring glaring things 842 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: we need to overcome. So yeah, that's it, Kyrie Irving. 843 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 3: It's got to be said one last time. I find 844 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 3: it shocking that it's basically repeating itself from Boston. Nobody 845 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: seems to care as much as they did when it 846 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: was the Boston Celtics. I guess because the expectations were 847 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: higher in Boston that that was going to be a 848 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 3: championship team. But really a forty two win team plus 849 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving equals in my math, a top four seed 850 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: they've disappointed. 851 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and it was poorly timed. It sounded 852 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: like something you maybe maybe you shouldn't even be go 853 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: saying it, but maybe saying the off season, and you 854 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: don't say it after you stunk in a game where 855 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: some of your other teammates did better than you and 856 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: contributed more to trying to win the game. Yeah, poor timing. 857 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: I still I don't know. I'm trying to give him 858 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. I something didn't inside me 859 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: just says it's a He really was just talking about 860 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: the concept of, Hey, don't worry, we're adding Kevin Durant. 861 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: But he maybe I'm wrong. Who knows what Kyrie? 862 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 6: I wonder, hell he'll react if he doesn't make the 863 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 6: old style game, but Spencer Dean what he does, because 864 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 6: that could happen. 865 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could. It could. 866 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 867 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely. But how would he reacts? Yeah, 868 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: you would hope you'd react. You'd be happy for Spencer. 869 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: I guess try and get some of those din winny dollars. 870 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: I was trying to stay calm, but now my blood 871 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: is boiling a little bit. So let me let me 872 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: give a quick quote the exact well, it hasn't. It's 873 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 3: glaring in terms of the pieces that we need in 874 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: order to be at that next level. I'm going to 875 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 3: continue to reiterate it. What are you saying? Why? Why? 876 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 5: Why? 877 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 4: Oh? 878 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: It's why are you saying that's more? 879 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 3: Okay? 880 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: When? Why? 881 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: But it's just it's a decent team and it's in 882 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 3: the East. Jimmy Butler has got a top three seed 883 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: right now with him and a bunch of guys who 884 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 3: are good, and he's got Spencer Dinwidie and Karris l 885 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: Verpas on him. It's not a bad team again as 886 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: a forty two win team plus Kyrie, Yeah, minus some 887 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: role players. But I don't think Jared Dudley is really 888 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 3: the key to them not being that good. 889 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 6: This is Jimmy's fourth team that needs one more. 890 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: Can I can I throw another nominee for Worse of 891 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: the Week? 892 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. 893 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: I think Stephen A. Smith should be on the run 894 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: in here. He said the goat. He said some dumb 895 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: ass things this week, and I'll just point out two 896 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: of them. And I do love Stephen A. Smith, very charismatic, 897 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: very entertained. But come on a few days ago, he said, 898 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: he declared, I should say Devin Booker the perfect fit 899 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: for the Lakers. Okay, wow, yeah, he'd be pretty good 900 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: on them and the organization. The Lakers should make moves 901 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: to trade Kyle Kuzma for Booker. 902 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, awesome, how can you disagree? 903 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Plinka, get to work on that, all right. But 904 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: then okay, then on top of that, yesterday, I don't know, 905 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: it's during some sort of Twitter ama like where he 906 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: does you know, he takes a question and he does 907 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: a little video. Again, He's incredible. He's the best, you know, 908 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: even followers does he have probably five million followers. The 909 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: guy does everything. He's got like a three out radio show. 910 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: He's on every show on he span. I love him, 911 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But he goes and says, could 912 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: you imagine somebody like Yiannis surrounded by Stephen Clay Golden 913 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: State would be back in the championship for the next 914 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: three to five years. Okay, he's become Leggie got a 915 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: new Hotels dot Com guy captain obvious here and like, yeah. 916 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 6: I still do you know anything about basketball? 917 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: Apparently I don't know. I don't buy so anyway, I'm 918 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: just throwing Stephen a especially that Booker one was like 919 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: just that one was insane. Kyle Kuzma, I guess that's 920 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: working for him. He's convinced stephen A that that's somewhat 921 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: of a fair trade there. Maybe Kuzma for books. 922 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: You just gotta put it out there, man, You never 923 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: know what'll happen. Sure that Devin Booker makes almost thirty 924 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: times as much as Kyle Kuzma. Bet there's a way 925 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 4: to figure it out. 926 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna add on another nominee for 927 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: Worse of the Week because he just reminded me of 928 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: another one. And this is exactly what they want us 929 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: to do, skeets. Stephen A wants us talking about it. 930 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 3: Skip Bayless wants us talking about it. But I'm gonna 931 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 3: include Skip Bayless here. It's actually more about Fox Sports. 932 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 3: Fox Sports website on Friday morning. Here Friday morning, This 933 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: is approximately thirty six hours after the Lakers lost to 934 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic. The number one story on Fox sports 935 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 3: web page is Skip Bayless. Colon Lebron James once again 936 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: proved he doesn't have the clutch gene in lost to Magic. 937 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 3: They lost on Wednesday, and that's the number one on story. Yeah, anyway, 938 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 3: it's less about what they want. It's less about mister 939 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: Skip and mister Steven and more about you know what 940 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: it's about. It's more about the platforms they work for. 941 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 3: And definitely in this Fox Sports situation, you know, Stephen A, 942 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 3: the Den Booker situation, he did say everybody's getting a 943 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 3: little bit excited about what Kyle Kuzma will bring back, right, yeah, 944 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 3: and they're overinflating it. So he he kind of talked 945 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 3: about it as a trade, right like Kuzma. I know, 946 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: Nu Kuzma's does an equal Devin Booker, but it was 947 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: sort of like a trade scenario sort of, you know what. 948 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 3: I don't think he went to the ESPN trade machine. 949 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: Well, I would like to write now declare that Devin 950 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: Booker is the perfect fit for the Raptors. Think he's 951 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: the perfect fit. 952 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 4: Would you trade Lowry for Booker? 953 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: I think the organization organization should look into that. Yeah, 954 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: well that what actually would maybe work too. Salaries almost 955 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: match up. I mean, I just it's silly they're not 956 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: They're not trading Booker for Kuzma. And yeah, no doubt 957 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: the Lakers would want Booker. Yeah, he's an all star, 958 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: bordoline all star it's wild all right. Speaking of All Stars, 959 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: third and final fan returns of NBA All Star voting 960 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: dropped yesterday. Lebron maintains his hold as the leading vote getter. 961 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: He's aout one hundred and fifty thousand votes ahead of 962 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: Luca in the West, while reigning MVP Yannis he is 963 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: still number one in the East. Enjoy it while while 964 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: you can Yannis in the East because he's going to 965 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: be going to the Warriors and they're going to be 966 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: a championship team for three to five years. Just to 967 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: remind everyone, fan voting counts for fifty percent of the 968 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 1: vote for the five starters and two backcourt, three front 969 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: court guys from each conference. Other fifty percent split evenly 970 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: between the media members and the players themselves. So fan 971 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: vote currently Lebron, Ady Kawhi, Luca, and Harden as the 972 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Western Conference starters. Yannis Siakam bumped up the second there 973 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: Embiid and then Trey Young and Kyrie Irving still your guards. 974 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: In the Eastern Conference, those would be the starters if 975 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: it were just up to the fans. Voting closes this Monday, guys, 976 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: with those All Star starters, So if you have an 977 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: official ballot. You have to have it in by basically 978 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: midnight on Monday. We'll find out those ten guys and 979 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: including the two captains, the leading vote getters in each conference. 980 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: They're announced on Thursday, next Thursday. So I thought, let's 981 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: pretend we have an official ballot. I don't think this 982 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: is going to take a long time here, because they're 983 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: a lot we'll agree on. But who are your ten 984 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: all star starters? Not who you think is going to 985 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: be selected? Like, once it's all said and done, you 986 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: have a ballot right here today on Friday, you got 987 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: to fill it out before you head out for the weekend. 988 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,479 Speaker 1: Who's the ten names on your list? 989 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 3: Who wants to get a start conference? 990 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the West's start with the West. Yeah, 991 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm I'm assuming there's four. We agree on 992 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: Luca and Harden. We're all writing down, put it in pen. 993 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: There are guards, yep, Lebron and Ad agree. Who's your 994 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: third forward in the West? I am putting Kawhi Leonard down. 995 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious who anyone else entered. 996 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, Land, I'm not putt Kawhi down. I know he's 997 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 6: a great player. He's going to be in the game. 998 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 6: But this is for the fans. 999 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't think why. 1000 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 6: I really can't beat the fans, so I'm cutting him. 1001 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 4: I love it. 1002 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, I also didn't include Kwi. He's sitting games 1003 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: more so than any other player that aren't due to injury. 1004 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: He is, he's. 1005 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: Basically okay, yeah, yeah, he's actively sitting here. 1006 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 3: Yeah he's the only player who's doing it that. 1007 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: But he still played thirty two games. He's still played 1008 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: over seventy five percent of his team's games. 1009 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 3: You know, I think it should be a higher percentage. 1010 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 3: I do. If he's a. 1011 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 4: Quarter of the season, that's a big part of the season. 1012 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 3: At the end of the year, that's sixty games that 1013 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 3: you're playing out of eighty two. It's not a lot. 1014 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I don't want to jump ahead. Then if 1015 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: you're saying that seventy five percent of your team's games 1016 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: isn't enough, you better not have siakaman EmpId just wait 1017 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: on your roster. Okay. 1018 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, just so you say, at least he didn't Those 1019 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 3: guys didn't sit out on purpose. I think Kawai took it, 1020 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 3: took himself out of this contention. 1021 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's the question it's between Kawai and Jokic. 1022 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 4: Kawhi has missed games for knee maintenance. Throwback, it used 1023 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 4: to be called load maintenance. I'm old enough to remember 1024 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 4: hoad manager those days. Right, good times. 1025 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: Gotta have a body part in there. 1026 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 4: Well, who is it? Is it Kawhi or is it 1027 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 4: Nikola Jokic who didn't miss games but kind of games 1028 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 4: the first half of the first month of the season. 1029 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 4: These are virtual missed games. 1030 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, he got off to a terrible start. But I'm 1031 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 6: going with Jokic because I think he's picked it up. 1032 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 6: The Nuggets have been much better. He's at nineteen and 1033 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 6: ten with seven assists, six and a half assists the game, 1034 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 6: shooting fifty one percent from the field, eighty percent line, 1035 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 6: thirty three from downtown. I'm going with him. I just 1036 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 6: I just think he's deserving of it. 1037 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: Are you only doing that so Anthony Davis doesn't have 1038 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: to play center in. 1039 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 6: The Australia doesn't want to. No, it's really because I 1040 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 6: want another foreign born in there. Yeah, I'm biased against outside. 1041 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: Of America, boring American Kawi Leonard, Yeah, who actually may 1042 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: be a boring American all things considered. 1043 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 6: Okay, So Anyway, despite all the numbers that I do 1044 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 6: think Jokic is deserving and if you've got to find 1045 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 6: a reason to put him in over Kawhi, I think 1046 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 6: I think the one the kawhis handing you that reason, 1047 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 6: Hey to your ballot, thank you. 1048 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 3: I bet Jokic for three reasons, Kauai is not allowed 1049 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 3: to Jokic. Also, the numbers aren't good. When Tray was 1050 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,959 Speaker 3: commented there about the virtual sitting, totally true. He wasn't 1051 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 3: there on offense, but the defensive numbers were very good. 1052 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 3: He was leading a great Nuggets team on the defensive end. 1053 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: Even though people say he's not a good defender, he 1054 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 3: was a part of that defense. He was the backbone 1055 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 3: of that defense. That being said, the third reason is 1056 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: he did what we wanted him to do and that 1057 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: he started caring about offense. And now their defense is 1058 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 3: dropped off. And so thank you Nikoli Jokich for being 1059 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 3: a good offensive player. And so their defense is now eleventh, 1060 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: which is kind of surprising. Their top two, top one 1061 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 3: for a while. But now he's great, He's back to 1062 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 3: being Nikolijokic. 1063 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: In my books, I do have an arbitrary like seventy 1064 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: five percent of of your team's games played is enough 1065 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: for me. That's sort of like when you're getting drastically 1066 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: below that, then it's not enough. But Kawi's there. Yes, 1067 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: sometimes he chose to miss those games, but he's still 1068 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: played thirty two and great timing on his part. I 1069 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: don't think he cares about an All Star game, but 1070 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: I'll sure tell you this is going to help his case. 1071 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: Over the last four games, he missed a game against 1072 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: the Knicks. Right now, over his last four games, he's 1073 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: averaging thirty five point three points per game in thirty 1074 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: three minutes per game, shooting fifty six percent from the 1075 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: floor forty five from three on a lot of attempts. 1076 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: The five and a half boards, the four and a 1077 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: half assists, the two and a half steals, nearly a block. 1078 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, these are unbelievable numbers. It's only four games. 1079 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: I get that, but he's picking it up here at 1080 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: the right time. And he's a better player than Yokicic, 1081 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: so I'm still going him. 1082 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 4: I got Qui as well, Okay, I mean, I'm with you. 1083 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: He's just better. He's the reigning Finals MVP, and he's 1084 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 4: probably the best player in the league. In one single 1085 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 4: game that actually matters. 1086 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 3: Is there a do you it's true? 1087 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: Do you have is was there the toughest omission for you? 1088 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 3: I do think Qui's numbers. I think you should include 1089 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 3: it should be averaged out with the games he misses, 1090 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 3: so he should get zero's for a game so he 1091 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: misses too, see how they go anyways, toughest emission, yeah 1092 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 3: it was. 1093 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: Was there a toughestubmission kui for me? 1094 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: Okay? 1095 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 2: Tough? 1096 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, he wasn't super tough for me. Yeah, alright. I 1097 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 6: love that conference. 1098 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 4: I love them. 1099 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, just Blackman at the line and then All 1100 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 1: Star Game. 1101 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 6: You know we always say, yeah's for the fans, it's 1102 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 6: for the fans, and so well with one guy just 1103 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 6: doesn't really care about the fans, and why put him 1104 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 6: in there? Yok yokich will be great in the All 1105 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 6: Star Game because he's got all those all sorts of 1106 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 6: highlights in the way that he passes and throws up 1107 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 6: those flicky flippity shots. 1108 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 4: I think that's highlights last year, right, yo, kitch? 1109 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, all of them? 1110 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly. 1111 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: Come, I don't remember I would give them. I'll give 1112 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: you this. I do love the argument of not wanting 1113 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: claim the All Star Game because he doesn't care about Yeah, sure, 1114 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: I think that's how hilarious are you going to lean into? 1115 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: And hey, by all means he's still on my team. Okay, 1116 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: So Eastern Conference, Uh, probably a little bit more difficult, 1117 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: especially if you want to start talking about the seventy 1118 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: five percent games play at threshold because there's a couple 1119 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: of guys, like I said right there in Siakam and 1120 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: Embiid and Kyrie. You know he wouldn't make it. But 1121 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: who are your who are your guards on your Eastern 1122 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: Conference All Stars starters? Tst start us off? Who are 1123 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: your two guards? 1124 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 3: Kemba which I think we're all universal? 1125 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: Yep, I've got Kemba. 1126 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, here comes the toughie. I took Trey Young. It's 1127 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 3: an All Star game. He's been amazing And not only 1128 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 3: has he been amazing, but he's also been efficient, which 1129 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: is I thought a little bit bonkers, you know, because 1130 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 3: he's the only guy who can really score on that team. 1131 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 3: They try and take him out. He's still efficient, ye, 1132 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 3: and he wants to be there, and he's gonna put 1133 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 3: on a show. I mean, he who has been put 1134 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 3: on the show the most over the first three four months. 1135 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: Arguably it's him on Instagram and doing those social highlights, 1136 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: and he won't be a Nikola Jokic with no highlights. 1137 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 3: He will he will continue to produce those highlights, not 1138 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 3: megging people at All Star weekends. So it's him. 1139 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: Trey Young is your second guard. 1140 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 4: Trey, I'm inspiring choices. Honestly, for a second guard. It's 1141 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 4: like Trey Young, who is incredible on one end of 1142 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 4: the floor and a zero on the other end of 1143 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 4: the floor. Ben Simmons is in the mix for me, 1144 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 4: who is almost the flip flop of that, except for 1145 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 4: he actually does stuff on offense. He just can't shoot, 1146 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 4: just doesn't want to shoot. That's fine. Not everybody has 1147 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 4: to have the exact same game. And then next up 1148 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 4: for those guys I think is Kyle Lowry and Malcolm Brogden. 1149 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 4: But then you're getting into they both missed eleven games. 1150 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 4: That's a quarter of the season already, so that's maybe 1151 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 4: something that can disqualify you. But I think ultimately I 1152 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 4: go with Trey Young too. It's an All Star game. 1153 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 4: He'll be fun and he has been really, really good, 1154 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 4: and he's not the reason the Hawks are the worst 1155 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 4: team in the way. 1156 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly it. I also have Trey Young, I 1157 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: think I think this is an important point too. Howard 1158 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: Becka saw pushing it, you know, on his podcast. I 1159 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: think you had a little video and Bleacher Report too. 1160 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: We want our All Stars to come from winning teams. 1161 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: I think we all agree with that, but it's not 1162 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: a prerequisite. And it's you look at even last year, 1163 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: six All Stars from losing teams, you know, records at 1164 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: the time. Over the last decade he did the math 1165 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: beck did, forty two All Stars have come from losing 1166 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 1: teams on average, about four for four per season, is 1167 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. And you've had guys like 1168 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: Wall and Kyrie and Nash and Kobe, you know, like 1169 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 1: it happens. So it's not it's yeah, it's not great. 1170 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: We would like the Hawks to have, you know, ten 1171 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: more wins at this point, but they don't put it 1172 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: on the end of the world. He cans still playing 1173 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: an All Star games. 1174 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, but I think people people wouldn't be as 1175 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 3: upset with it if he was in twelfth rather than 1176 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: he's in dead really dead less. Well, yeah, I think 1177 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 3: there were they're losing team. Yeah, but there's a lot 1178 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 3: less dispute about those guys you mentioned. I mean, it's 1179 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 3: just this doesn't happen very often to be to be 1180 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,479 Speaker 3: dead right at the bottom trace. It happened to Tracey 1181 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 3: McGrady once, and it happened to Carmelo Anthony. 1182 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: If I do have that correct, like being at the 1183 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel. 1184 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it in the in the history of 1185 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 3: the NBA. 1186 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: Well again, it's not his fault. It's not really. So 1187 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: I go Tray Young too, because I think, what what 1188 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: our own tray here, the real life tray O my eyes, 1189 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: it's the Yeah, it's tough to really talk myself into 1190 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: anyone else. 1191 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 3: True. 1192 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 6: The other guy I was looking at was Jalen Brown. 1193 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 6: I think he's been really good for a winning team 1194 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 6: in Boston, but ultimately try Young is having statistically a 1195 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 6: better season. So I got with Trey, But yeah, you 1196 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 6: put you. Basically, I'm looking I'm like, not Kyrie. This 1197 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 6: is based on the on the vote count and the record. 1198 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 6: Right now, it's not Kyrie. It's not Derek Rose, it's 1199 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 6: not Kyle Larrett, it's not Levigne. Then it's Brown, Simmons, Beal, 1200 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 6: and Van Vliet and I'm like, Brown's the strongest one 1201 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 6: out of the remainder. But I gave them not in 1202 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 6: the inter tray young as well. 1203 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 3: In years past, though, some way, some somehow, the All 1204 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 3: Star conductors are able to shift one guy from the 1205 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 3: other position and throw him into the position they want. 1206 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 3: And that's why Jimmy Butler would be perfect in this 1207 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 3: spot right for the people who want winners, and they 1208 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 3: usually do, but this year we're getting strict. He's a Ford, 1209 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 3: he can't play guard. 1210 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: Well, is he in the mix for one of your 1211 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: forward spots as a starter? Let's fill out the three 1212 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 1: forward spots. 1213 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 4: Who do you got? 1214 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead? 1215 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 6: I'm going with Jannis Pascal and Jimmy's best Gal. 1216 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yiannis is the only lock for me, the only 1217 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 4: I think is closer to a lock than Embiid. I 1218 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 4: have both Siakam and Embiid ahead of Butler in line, 1219 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 4: but Embiid and have missed eleven games. Is back. The 1220 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 4: games are going to pile up for if he stays 1221 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 4: out any longer with this hand surgery. Yea, And in 1222 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 4: that case then I think Jimmy slips in there. But 1223 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 4: I mean I think Embiid has had a little bit 1224 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 4: better season than Jimmy Butler a little bit better numbers. 1225 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: Though. 1226 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 4: Adding Jimmy to the heat has really solidified their culture 1227 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 4: and made their team make sense. But I mean just 1228 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 4: crazy to Yeah, yeah, exactly. And he's played more games. 1229 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 4: So I think that Jimmy's coming for that spot. I 1230 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 4: just don't think he's quite there yet. 1231 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 3: Siakam has been the most dominant of those guys. Even 1232 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 3: though he's missed twenty five percent of his games, he 1233 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 3: has been really really good when he's played it and 1234 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 3: he's back. Astre said, so I had him as as 1235 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 3: a walk. I understand it does. It does for him 1236 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 3: to miss so many games. And I threw in Joel 1237 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 3: Embiid as well, because Jimmy can come off the bench. 1238 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 3: He can play the fourth quarters. Last year was it 1239 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 3: last year? He didn't even want to play two two 1240 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 3: years ago. He's in LA he said, I'm not playing. 1241 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm an All Star. I'll put on my jersey, but 1242 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm not going to run on the floor. And that happened, 1243 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 3: so that here you're not allowed. You can come off 1244 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 3: the bench. And because because embiid season has not been 1245 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 3: overwhelmingly good, No, but Jimmy Butler's has even been less. 1246 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 3: So really, I mean Trey brought up the numbers on 1247 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 3: that or Midseason podcast yesterday, twenty seven percent from three 1248 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 3: point lane. 1249 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they don't wow you. He's a he's a 1250 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven and six guy. They're good and the defense 1251 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,479 Speaker 1: is there with the two steals, but yeah, shooting wise, 1252 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not gonna knock your socks off. I 1253 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: I do have Giannis and I have Embiid again, Embiids. 1254 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: It'll be he's gonna miss more games here, so that's 1255 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: gonna hurt his case. And maybe he'll just be ruled 1256 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: out of the All Star Game and it still could 1257 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: select him, of course, and then you can have a replacement. 1258 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: I think that's actually what's gonna happen. So I got Giannison, Embiid, 1259 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: it's that third one man. I'll throw two more names 1260 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: in the mix. I know you guys are talking a 1261 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: lot between deciding between Siakham and Butler. I think some 1262 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: bonus could be in that mix as well, deserving as 1263 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 1: an All Star spot. And I'm gonna say it, and 1264 00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Chris Middleton has had a get. 1265 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: It has to get a real good look at that. 1266 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: If I swear to god Evis with any other team 1267 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: with a thirty seven and six record, there'd be a 1268 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 1: hell a lot more people saying they deserve more than 1269 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 1: one All Star. Well, they deserve more one starting All Star. 1270 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean Warren starting All Star. I don't think people 1271 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 3: care if he's starting or not. He's gonna be there. 1272 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: He better be there because his numbers are unbelievable right now. 1273 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: And it's shocking me because I was last year trying 1274 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 1: to make the case that I thought Bledsoe was more 1275 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: important to the success at the halfway mark than Middleton was. 1276 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: But Middleton is a twenty point per game score and 1277 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: you know six boards force this okay, but he's lights 1278 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: out shooting forty nine percent from the floor forty one 1279 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,239 Speaker 1: from three eighty nine at the line, and he doesn't 1280 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: even play nearly as many minutes as these other three guys. 1281 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 1: So it's per thirty six are through the roof. Middleton 1282 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: has to be the mix. I don't think he's gonna 1283 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: make it. Ultimately, I'm gonna vote for Jimmy Butler over Siakam, 1284 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 1: though I am yeah, so you can't, hey for once, 1285 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: you can't y'll homer at me. Why don't you say 1286 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 1: not Homer when I not Homer? Rightago, Butler, that's a 1287 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: tough one, and I really do like the tiebreaker is 1288 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: the more games played. 1289 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Middleton and the Bonus are both going 1290 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 6: to be there for me, There's no question about that. Yeah, 1291 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 6: But the starting in the game unlikely. 1292 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: I would say, Man, imagine you really had to fill 1293 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: it a ballot. You would know you would. You would 1294 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: do yours in like one second. That's what I like 1295 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: about you, and I also hate about you. But you 1296 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: would just get that ballot bo boom, boom boom, here 1297 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: you go. Well I would, I would agonize. I'd be 1298 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: up all right for days, pretending like it matters. That's 1299 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: the difference between you and me, exactly. 1300 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 6: I don't play by the rule. 1301 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, your ballot literally would be you would scratch out 1302 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: East and West, you would put World USA. You create 1303 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: a whole new rule set for the games. 1304 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 6: Well that's what I'm looking for, man, I'm looking for 1305 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 6: the twelve non US borners. I think we can do it. 1306 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 6: Kyrie Kants is a non US born. 1307 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 4: Why don't you turn your green cart in? 1308 00:57:59,440 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: Then? 1309 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 3: Gonna get yourself kicked out of this place. 1310 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 6: Why this is this is a country for immigrants, I thought, 1311 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 6: isn't it? 1312 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: I had a call about start my green card process. 1313 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 6: Oh yes, this morning, good luck. 1314 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: Can you could you give me some money for a 1315 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: little I'm. 1316 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 6: Happy to pay for it. It just you might be 1317 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 6: waiting a few years for it. Sorry to say, okay, 1318 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 6: sorry to say. 1319 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: Happy to pay for it. 1320 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 4: I'll give you some money in a few years when 1321 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 4: it comes through. 1322 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 6: You give me the finally voice. 1323 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, all right, let's hear from you guys. 1324 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: Fill out those all star starters rosters. Tweet out us 1325 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: at no dunk say hashtag no dunks. You got until 1326 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: Monday for all you official people out there, that got 1327 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: the real one? All right, JD. Let's fire the pun gun. 1328 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 5: Dad real simple one this week. It's from c K 1329 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 5: on Twitter. He tweeted in he or she tweeted in 1330 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 5: pun gun NB A hairstyles like mohawk less. 1331 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: A right start hairstyles. 1332 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 4: Let me hairstyles Byron Mullet, n Bradley Bald. 1333 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 6: Alex Crew so nice. 1334 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 4: Should have been Lonzo Bald. What's another hairstyle? 1335 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 5: Doug mcpermit, Oh man, that's not easy. 1336 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 3: John just a John Long? 1337 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: Why not Quincy pon, hold on Quincy ponytail exter no, no, 1338 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: I regret that. 1339 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 4: Derek corn Rose nice one, Ada Blackman, Andrew Wiggins. 1340 00:59:51,640 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, nice, Jonathan Spike six, Bangston Galloway, Oh my god, 1341 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 7: these are good. 1342 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 4: Sean puppy combover not an NBA. 1343 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 5: Buzz Williams, Jerry curl West. 1344 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 3: Good if it was before the. 1345 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Week, it really is, all right, difficult one. All right, 1346 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: let's get to tweet. 1347 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 3: Of the night, tweet out the night. 1348 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Wow, all right, guys, hold on to your butts for 1349 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: this one. On yesterday's show, we started talking about the 1350 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Big Three changes to their league, which then led us 1351 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: to talking about three on three being added to this 1352 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: year's Olympics, which then led us to wondering whether Lebron 1353 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: could just add himself to Team USA's three on three team, 1354 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: which then turned into a discussion about how Lebron would 1355 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: compete at the events at the Olympics, like say, the pentathlon, 1356 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: which then led us to figuring out, what the hell 1357 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: is the pentathlon? What is in that event, which finally 1358 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: got us wondering how well a horse would do at 1359 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: other events in the Olympics aka the horse Athon. So 1360 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: At Troy likes stuff. He tweeted in he wanted to 1361 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: dig a little deeper into the whole Lebron versus a 1362 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: horse at the Olympics thing, which was not something we've 1363 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: really got into. But you can see how in my 1364 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: explanation he got to that Lebron and a horse, if 1365 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: they were competing in the Olympics, how that might shake out. 1366 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: So At Troy likes stuff. He hit us with a 1367 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: number of tweets a great thread scoring who would win 1368 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: each particular Olympic event between the two. So I want 1369 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: you guys to feel free to jump in. Maybe you 1370 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: don't like the scoring on one of the particular events, 1371 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe you've got a comment about it. Whatever, We're gonna 1372 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: go through a lot of them here. But it's very funny. Okay, 1373 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: aquatics horses per Google because he googled it. They can 1374 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 1: barely swim. What I always thought a horse was good 1375 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: in water? 1376 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 4: I really did, so did everybody. You said it yesterday 1377 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 4: and we're like, yeah, yeah, of course a horse swimming. 1378 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 6: You always see their teeth like when in the water, Like, really, 1379 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 6: maybe I didn't like it at all. 1380 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they always jump over it in the questrian. 1381 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think now that I think about it, 1382 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: anytime I see a horse in the water, it's the 1383 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: horse in water that's still enough that their hooves are 1384 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: on the rocks at the bottom, like they're touching it, 1385 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: and they look pretty happy and confident in the water. 1386 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: But that's really just because they're standing in the water. 1387 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 3: Horses like to have their hooves on the ground, that's 1388 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 3: what they say. 1389 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: So Lebron won horse zero archery hooves no good here. 1390 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Now I will debate that I thought the hooves on 1391 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: a horse had a little notch in it, so maybe 1392 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: that'd be really nice with the butt. But okay, Lebron 1393 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 1: two horse zero athletics. Finally we get to run and 1394 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: run fast. Horse one horse wins that one. Badminton hooves 1395 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Lebron three horse one. Baseball slash softball technically a team 1396 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: sport which cannot be played solo, so both four fit 1397 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: that one. Okay, basketball Lebron's day job. Lebron four horse one. 1398 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but horses a whole game. Yeah, Okay, we might 1399 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 4: have to think about. 1400 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 1: This, okay, boxing, he writes at Troy like stuff. I 1401 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: don't want to think about this one. Too much boxing. 1402 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Do you know, imagine a Lebron and a horse boxing. 1403 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: He scores it Lebron five horse one. I'm with you. 1404 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: The horse could turn around do some damage, kicking away 1405 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: like an. 1406 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 5: I'm just thinking, you can't kick in boxing, but it 1407 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 5: would be he'd. 1408 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 6: Be out of Ducky's. 1409 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: But what if we put the boxing gloves on the 1410 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: horses rear hooves? Then are they not the hands? 1411 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 5: No, that's still kicking. It would have to be his 1412 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 5: front pause. 1413 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Those are still his feet. 1414 01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Gloves, Lebron's feet. 1415 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 4: When a horse rears up right, it's picking up those 1416 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 4: front ones. And even in that scenario, I'm still going 1417 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 4: horse because I mean, this is gonna sound crazy. A 1418 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 4: horse could take unlimited punches to the face from Lebron 1419 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 4: James and all a horse needs is one rear up 1420 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 4: boxing gloves on front hoofs and one strike. Lebron is 1421 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 4: not gonna be able to hang with a horse. 1422 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 5: But here's wouldn't you have to find a horse that 1423 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 5: weighs around the same as a good. 1424 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 6: Point in the In the Olympics they wear those helmets 1425 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 6: as well, So I imagine trying to put that on 1426 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 6: the horse. Yeah, that'd be a tough little fit, you'd 1427 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 6: get one, I guess. Yeah, okay, let's give it going. 1428 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: We got a lot of events cycling, Okay, cycling. I 1429 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: refuse to live in a world where you can't design 1430 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: a bike that could be peddled by a strong, powerful horse. 1431 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: So Lebron five horse two. So Troy giving that one 1432 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: to the horse. We are designing a bike that the 1433 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: horse could power. And I think that's fair, Like why not? 1434 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 6: Sure? 1435 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1436 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 6: The only thing is I mean, if he's talking about, 1437 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 6: like in the velodrome, there's some pretty shop turns there. 1438 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 6: If you're a big, heavy horse, it's hot to you know, 1439 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 6: maneuver in like that. 1440 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Lebron's a big guy too. 1441 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's easy for him. He's not a horse white though. 1442 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Okay, equestrian horse's day job. So Lebron five horse three, 1443 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: here's the comeback fencing hoofs Lebron six horse three. Yeah, 1444 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:24,959 Speaker 1: I can't argue that one horse. 1445 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 5: What getting back to the question, the horse would have 1446 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 5: to be riding a horse. 1447 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's. 1448 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: A horse on a horse, of course, of course. Yeah, 1449 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 1: but come on, we gotta give. 1450 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 3: I think I think a horse on the back of 1451 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 3: a horse. But they were like Okay, we we know 1452 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 3: what we're doing here. We would just get a small 1453 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 3: jockey size horse. 1454 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 6: Just get one of those little horses. 1455 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, So okay, after fencing, it's six 1456 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: to three Lebron football, soccer, variety team sport, so across 1457 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: from the front. It's weird that we counted basketball for 1458 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Lebron in a teams, but we're striking all these other ones, 1459 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, anyway, golf, golf, Okay, hooves strike once 1460 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 1: more in golf. It's gonna be now, I would argue that. 1461 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 1: So he gives it to Lebron seven three Lebron right now, 1462 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: But what about this? Couldn't we tape? Could we not 1463 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: tape the club to the horse's foot? 1464 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 3: And it's like, it's just what I don't think you'd 1465 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 3: be successful. 1466 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm thinking club in mouth, you know, swinging the head 1467 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 4: back and forth. 1468 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 6: Well, I'm mostly thinking the horse wouldn't even be allowed 1469 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 6: on the green. They pick it up. 1470 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: So every step he takes, sir, every step. That's a 1471 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: good point, all right. Gymnastics, now, Troy writes, do they 1472 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: change the strength of the uneven or parallel bars based 1473 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: on the size of the athlete? Now, I don't. I 1474 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: think the answer is no, but they would have to. 1475 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: They should be a horse could have a great floor 1476 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: routine and would be super cute with that ribbon thing. 1477 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 6: M so good point. 1478 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 1: He calls it a tie seven and a half Lebron 1479 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 1: horse three and a half. 1480 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 4: That's fair. 1481 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: A lot of events in gymnastics. 1482 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 6: Who would win the pummel horse the horse Lebron. 1483 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 4: It's a different horse. 1484 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Actually, you can see Lebron. I'm pretty good at that 1485 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: handball and field hockey. If we can make a bike 1486 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: for the horse to ride, then we can do something 1487 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: about these damn hooves. So he just or he wants 1488 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: to do something about these damn hooves. He scores both 1489 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: for Lebron. Lebron is up nine and a half to 1490 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: three and a half for the horse. Judo and karate 1491 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 1: based solely on the logo for each event. Judo involves 1492 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: flipping and lebroni and flipping a horse, and karate involves 1493 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: kicking horses renowned for their kicking ability knows that. So 1494 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: horse takes both events. Lebron nine and a half, horse 1495 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: five and a half. Here we go modern pentathlon. This 1496 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: all comes down to a run, says Troy so the 1497 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: question is can the horse keep it close enough to 1498 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: out run LBJ because the horse gets zeros for fencing 1499 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 1: and shooting and swimming again, but Lebron probably gets a 1500 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: zero in riding because that's in this the modern pentathlon. 1501 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: So Lebron is likely going to have a thirteen and 1502 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: a half or thirteen plus minute head start in a 1503 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: three thousand meter race and should win. So Lebron has 1504 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 1: a massive lead in the run because of his other 1505 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: events in dominating the horse. Could the horse catch him? 1506 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: He says no, So ten and a half for Lebron. 1507 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,719 Speaker 1: That's a win for Lebron. 1508 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 6: Wow. 1509 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did it's deep? 1510 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 4: It? 1511 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 6: Congrats? 1512 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1513 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, thirteen minutes. Yeah, the world record for three thousand 1514 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 3: meters is seven minutes and twenty four seconds. 1515 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 6: That right, it's only three columbitus right. 1516 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 3: Oh, so Lebron's gonna do victory laps. 1517 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Lebron has a big enough head start. I 1518 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,600 Speaker 1: do agree with that breakdown. That was well detailed. So 1519 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: ten and a half Lebron horse five and a half rowing, 1520 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,720 Speaker 1: similar to the cycling modification rule, says Troy. So he's 1521 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,719 Speaker 1: given it to the horse. So I guess we've designed 1522 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: because of the horses. If we can just rig him 1523 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 1: up the right way, he could do all right in rowing. True, yeah, 1524 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: if we figured it out, I'm giving we're giving it 1525 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: to him rugby. I know this should fall under the 1526 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: team sport forfeit rule rights Troy, but the horse gets points. 1527 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 6: Here. 1528 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,560 Speaker 1: A horse on a rugby field, if you can just 1529 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: attach the ball to him, would be unstoppable. 1530 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,679 Speaker 4: Just has to pick it up with his flat teeth. 1531 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 6: You know, yeah, certainly couldn't take him down. 1532 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, So that's ten and a half for 1533 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,759 Speaker 1: Lebron Horse seven and a half. Sailing, shooting, skateboarding, sport, climbing, surfing, 1534 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,759 Speaker 1: table tennis, and tennis. They all go to Lebron because 1535 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 1: you know a lot of those the hooves coming into 1536 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: play here, skateboarding. If we put skateboard for skateboards on 1537 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,680 Speaker 1: the horse, is that because it's all about increasing your difficulty. 1538 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: That might be seen fondly in the judge's eyes. But 1539 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,679 Speaker 1: whatever Lebron gets the win. Lebron seventeen and a half horse, 1540 01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,640 Speaker 1: seven and a half final ones. Uh here, guys, Triathlon, weightlifting, 1541 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: and wrestling all go to the horse. 1542 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 4: All three events triathlon even. 1543 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, yeah, I guess because we've modified the bike 1544 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be great in the run. 1545 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1546 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: The swim is the swim. He's gonna be behind. He's 1547 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna be quite substantially to help shall is Lebron a 1548 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 1: good swimmer. 1549 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 4: I remember him jumping off a high dive once. That's 1550 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 4: the only thing I remember water wise, And he was 1551 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,240 Speaker 4: a little scared when he was jumping in, but he 1552 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 4: had a good time, all right. 1553 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 1: So anyway, we give all three of those to the horse. 1554 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Final total Lebron's seventeen and a half horse ten and 1555 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 1: a half. Lebron wins the Lebron versus Horse Olympics. Wow, 1556 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 1: great breakdown. Yeah from Matt Troy like stuff. Really appreciate that. 1557 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: Put a lot of effort into that. 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Task four and seven. 1593 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Tonight's game. 1594 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 3: What we got the Hawks and their new part of 1595 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 3: Jeff Tigue. Not sure if he's playing, but the Hawks 1596 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 3: are visiting the San Antonio Spurs. Spurs favored by eight 1597 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 3: and half. Spurs just finished a four game road trip. 1598 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 3: This is their first game home after that road trip. 1599 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 3: Hawks feeling probably pretty good. Beat the Phoenix Suns. 1600 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 1: It's true, that is true. I'm going Spurs. They actually 1601 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: play pretty well when they return from a road trip, 1602 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: generally in their first game. I'm gonna go Spurs to 1603 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,760 Speaker 1: cover the big line again. 1604 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 6: It's a big line. It's a big line. The supposably 1605 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 6: up and down. I'll tike you're going Spurs. 1606 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tight, Yes, I too, I'm going to be 1607 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 4: a Spurs man. A bit of a long layoff for 1608 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 4: the Hawks. Are they ready to go on the road 1609 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,759 Speaker 4: and win a game or the game close? 1610 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 3: Who knows? Give me the spursis I'll take they. 1611 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Tatty Sqervin and he could use it. So good luck 1612 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, but good luck to both teams. I just 1613 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 1: hope both teams play hard. Really at the end of 1614 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: the day, have fun. Yeah, we're al's done here, but 1615 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 1: before we go, a little rapid fire from. 1616 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 3: It's not only on the basketball floor where Knicks players 1617 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 3: are having a tough time, They're also having trouble getting 1618 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 3: to the game. The Athletics Mike Workanoff wrote a piece 1619 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,759 Speaker 3: this week focusing on the twenty eight mile or forty 1620 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 3: five kilometer distance between practice facility and arena, in which 1621 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 3: guard Alfred Payton says, quote, it's essentially a road game. O. 1622 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 3: What was your worst commute? Jd Well. 1623 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 5: We were discussing this yesterday, whether it was the commute 1624 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,040 Speaker 5: in general or one single trip on a commute, And 1625 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 5: I've been lucky enough to not really ever have a 1626 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 5: bad commute. So I'm just gonna go with one trip 1627 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 5: that I took. And I was on the Bay bus 1628 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 5: heading down to my kid's daycare. I was there with 1629 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 5: my son Lincoln, and we were sitting sort of in 1630 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 5: the front of the bus. He was in a stroller. 1631 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 5: He was two and a half years old, and we 1632 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 5: were This woman who clearly had Down syndrome came on 1633 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 5: and sat next to us on the bus, which was whatever, 1634 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 5: it's fine. A few stops in she leaned over to 1635 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 5: Lincoln two and a half years old and said, you're 1636 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 5: an asshole. This is all your fault. Who which was like, okay, 1637 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 5: what do you do? 1638 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Like? 1639 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 3: What do you do? 1640 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 5: The woman? She clearly has Down syndrome, And you know, 1641 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 5: it's not like I'm gonna you know, punch or anything 1642 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 5: or whatever. 1643 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 3: So anyway, I just. 1644 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 5: Said, okay, well, I have a good day, and we 1645 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 5: got off the bus. It was the middle of winter, 1646 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 5: and it was just it was one of those I 1647 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 5: felt really bad about it afterwards because clearly somebody had 1648 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 5: said this to her, you know what I mean, like 1649 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 5: somebody had she was just repeating this awful thing to 1650 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,799 Speaker 5: my kid. It was just a bad, bad experience. 1651 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 3: Sure, And can I just ask a follow up question, 1652 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 3: is it possible she was saying it to you? 1653 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: No? 1654 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 3: She did not. No, I don't think so. 1655 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 5: I mean she literally leaned almost into his face and said, oh, 1656 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 5: like made eye contact and said, you're as. 1657 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 3: I thought, maybe I thought maybe she was saying it 1658 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 3: to you for having a stroller on the bus taking 1659 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 3: up space on the bus. 1660 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 5: Or maybe I don't think so because she was sitting 1661 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 5: next to me. 1662 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 3: Okatch, all right, Tray. 1663 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 4: My worst commute was the first real job I had 1664 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,560 Speaker 4: after college. I have to drive an hour and a 1665 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 4: half each way to a job that I just hated, 1666 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,600 Speaker 4: data research, putting in numbers to a computer. But the 1667 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 4: good thing was three young gentlemen had started one of 1668 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 4: the finest basketball podcasts known to man. It was called TBJ, 1669 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,040 Speaker 4: and I listened to it every day. But that I 1670 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 4: was back in the day before you could actually stream things, 1671 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 4: so I'd have to like download it onto my computer, 1672 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 4: upload it to my iPod, plug my iPod into the 1673 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 4: thing that plugs into my like the lighter, and then 1674 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 4: you're like trying to broadcast on eighty eight point five FM. 1675 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 4: You're like, uh, if you get a little bit too 1676 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,560 Speaker 4: close to to Calb, Illinois, you're gonna be getting some 1677 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 4: ninety four point seven creeping in in here. But ten 1678 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 4: years later, we're hugging, constantly hugging. 1679 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,560 Speaker 3: One point to you, Trey, all right, skates. 1680 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been pretty fortunate to not have a lot 1681 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 1: of like bad daily commutes too. Be it when I 1682 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: lived in Toronto living here in Atlanta, so I won't 1683 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 1: go that route. But when I did live in Australia 1684 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: for the year, I lived in a pretty small rural 1685 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 1: town called Emerald in Victoria, and I worked on a 1686 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,560 Speaker 1: tree farm and I was staying at a you know, 1687 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: a hostel, and every morning at like the crack of 1688 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 1: dawn because we were leaving at like five or six 1689 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 1: in the morning. You know, we all had to pile 1690 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: into this bus and everybody's in their dirty ste clothes, 1691 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: and like we would be shipped around to all these 1692 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,799 Speaker 1: like flower farms and tree farms, and it's like bumpy 1693 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 1: ass roads and it's hilly, and it's like it just 1694 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: sucked because it was also super early in the morning 1695 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,600 Speaker 1: and you're going to work and it's like darkout, and 1696 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: it's like that was a bad commute. It wasn't super long. 1697 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was like thirty forty minutes, but it 1698 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,720 Speaker 1: just sucked because everybody because you were staying at a 1699 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: hostel too, so you're literally drinking and partying every night, 1700 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 1: so everybody's hung over the next morning. Those are some 1701 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: fun obviously nights, but some rough mornings, but that was 1702 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 1: that was tough at times. 1703 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 3: All right, next one, here do you guys think we 1704 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 3: should we should have done that question? What do you 1705 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 3: guys think about it? About your years? 1706 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1707 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 3: All right? 1708 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 4: Good? 1709 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 3: This one from No Dunks fan Christian So. I've been 1710 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 3: listening to you fellas since two thousand and seven or so, 1711 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,439 Speaker 3: and met you at All Star Jam session in Phoenix. 1712 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 3: But my favorite TBJ Slash Starter Slash No Dunk's fan 1713 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 3: brag is that I weaseled my way onto your set 1714 01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 3: and got a picture sitting at the desk at Turner's 1715 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 3: Studios while you were the Starters. I was there for 1716 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 3: a meeting and slipped out unnoticed and asked someone to 1717 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,479 Speaker 3: show me where you guys worked. I'd love to hear 1718 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,919 Speaker 3: about your favorite fan rags, doesn't have to be basketball. 1719 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Tell me about one of your experiences as a fan. 1720 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 3: Jd Well, I'm terrible with celebrities. I've met a few 1721 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 3: and I'm just like you know, stuttering full. But the 1722 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 3: most memorable one was. 1723 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 5: At the Toronto International Film Festival in two thousand and six, 1724 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 5: the year we started this podcast, and my friend worked 1725 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 5: there and he got me tickets to the midnight showing 1726 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,680 Speaker 5: of Borat. So it was the world premiere I think 1727 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 5: of Borat. So Sasha Baron Cohen was there, and I 1728 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 5: was I might meet Sasha Bear. Oh, that'd be pretty cool. 1729 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 5: Where I ended up sitting, Larry Charles was right in 1730 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,600 Speaker 5: front of me, and Michael Moore was right beside me. 1731 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 5: Oh so, Larry Charles's you know, he's one of my heroes. 1732 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 5: He's a director or director for Seinfeld for many years. 1733 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 5: He directed Borat and he went on to director Bruno 1734 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 5: and anyway I was trying to I was like, I 1735 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,520 Speaker 5: got to say something to Larry Charles. This is it's incredible. 1736 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 5: And of course I was by myself, so I didn't 1737 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 5: have anybody to sort of like pump me up or anything. 1738 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 5: So the movie started and I was like, god, damn it, 1739 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,160 Speaker 5: I missed my chance. I'll say something after. I'll just 1740 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 5: you know, say wow, that was great. It would be 1741 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 5: the perfect opportunity. It was right in front of me. 1742 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 5: But the projector broke fifteen minutes into the showing, and 1743 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 5: then he Larry Charles was livid, like he got up 1744 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,639 Speaker 5: and he was screaming his head off and he stormed off. 1745 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 5: Michael Moore also got up. He tried to fix the 1746 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,919 Speaker 5: projector and per my friend, he actually made the projector 1747 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 5: worse so and it ended up that Michael Moore Larry 1748 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 5: Charles were up on stage doing an impromptu like a 1749 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 5: Q and A type of thing and uh. And then 1750 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:10,720 Speaker 5: Sasha Baron Cloyne came out and as borat and apologized, 1751 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 5: blamed the Jews, and then that was the yet and 1752 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 5: then that I was that was it, and then the 1753 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 5: movie didn't come back and we everybody just had to leave. 1754 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,400 Speaker 5: So that's my celebrity account. 1755 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 3: Wow, wow, great story. Great. 1756 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 4: Well, everybody knows about my love affair with Guy Fiertti 1757 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 4: and how we have slowly united over time, just randomly 1758 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 4: jokingly messaged one day, Hey come John, come judge our 1759 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 4: dunk contest. Then he responds, all right, so they can. 1760 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 4: Years later, we're walking in the bowels of the Spectrum 1761 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 4: something is that what it's called Charlotte's a thing? And 1762 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,240 Speaker 4: Guy Fierti stops us. 1763 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, why don't you guys have me on 1764 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: the show? 1765 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 4: Sorry, man, didn't know you were going to be here. 1766 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 4: How do I get in touch with you? I take 1767 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 4: my phone number, I have Guy Fierti's phone number. Now 1768 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 4: I don't abuse it. Maybe once every six months. There 1769 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 4: some nice lowercase lower kase. 1770 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: G this up, guy, I I've said this before. I 1771 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,839 Speaker 1: get way more excited anytime I see a former Survivor 1772 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 1: contestant than I do any basketball player, despite being obviously 1773 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,600 Speaker 1: a huge basketball fan. I just it's one of my 1774 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 1: favorite things. It has been for twenty years. I'm so 1775 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 1: excited for season forty coming up. But running in specifically 1776 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 1: to Survivor Ghost Island winner Wendell Here in Atlanta, Ada 1777 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Hawks game. 1778 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 4: I mean it was. 1779 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 1: It was beautiful marrying both of my love Survivor and basketball, 1780 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: and there he is, and I'm just like, I just 1781 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: get so pumped. I'm so excited. And he was great. 1782 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,759 Speaker 1: That was the other thing. You know, he wasn't an asshole. 1783 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 1: He was We talked to him for like ten minutes. 1784 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,479 Speaker 1: So just anytime you get a chance to see a 1785 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: survivor in the wild, so excited to recognize him in 1786 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,360 Speaker 1: regular clothes. Yeah, No, Honestly, I think Nora first recognized him. 1787 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: I probably would have right by him and Nora con 1788 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 1: Nora's got a survivor eye. She saw she saw Ozzy 1789 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:07,640 Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't with her. I think she was 1790 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 1: in La on a girl's trip. She saw Ozzy and 1791 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: she seed someone else too. Yeah, so jealous. 1792 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,759 Speaker 3: And you saw Boston rob Onz. 1793 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 1: Too, didn't see him, Yeah yeah. Never got a chance 1794 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 1: to talk to him. I love too for Oh my god. 1795 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 1: I did have a little back and forth with Survivor fourteen. 1796 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,040 Speaker 1: I believe he won Earl. I think we were at 1797 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,679 Speaker 1: an ull Star weekend, I think, and we were talking 1798 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: about the possibility it was in La maybe trying to 1799 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,679 Speaker 1: hook up with him at some point. It never happened. 1800 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 1: But he's seem like a nice guy too. 1801 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 3: God, I just I just love it, okay. Last one here. 1802 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 3: In an article on ESPN, Malika Andrews profiles the nets 1803 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan and describes him as quote the self appointed 1804 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 3: locker room mediator, tension reliever, and humorist. He's fluffing Jared 1805 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 3: Allen's fro pregame. He's Collin Spencer Dinwiddie the professor because 1806 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 3: he's so smart. He even once was able to bring 1807 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,840 Speaker 3: Nick Center Mitchell Robinson out of his shell by telling him, man, 1808 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 3: you got a big as knows. He was like what 1809 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, let me look at it 1810 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,840 Speaker 3: from the side, and then he started laughing. What's something 1811 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 3: you do to keep things light? 1812 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,960 Speaker 5: JD Well, I'm not really known for the farts here 1813 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 5: in the office, but at home I am pretty good 1814 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:22,480 Speaker 5: at placing a well timed fart when things are getting serious. 1815 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 3: Or gloomy in the house. 1816 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 5: Kind of Alla fat bastard in Austin Powers Spider Shaggy, right, 1817 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 5: you know after his you know his speech about how 1818 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,719 Speaker 5: he eats because he's fat and he's fad because he eats, 1819 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 5: and then there's a great fart at the end of it. 1820 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 5: That's me at my house. Whenever things are getting too 1821 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 5: serious at home, I can't handle it, so I just fart. 1822 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm actually offended you should have these funny farts and 1823 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 1: you're not sharing it. 1824 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 5: It just never gets that serious and gloomy around. 1825 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true, and you got all of us 1826 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:55,560 Speaker 1: fart and as it is. 1827 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,559 Speaker 6: That's right, fought man. Wow, what a skill. 1828 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,960 Speaker 4: Well, that's right, it's got a home exactly. 1829 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 3: They got to be chambered train next one. 1830 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 4: I make personalized memes. You know, you'll see any sort 1831 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,160 Speaker 4: of meme that exists for all of Twitter will then 1832 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 4: exist for our friends or you know, like a group 1833 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 4: chat something like that. There was a long running Matt 1834 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 4: Austin bit of him holding something and just saying various 1835 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,719 Speaker 4: phrases that you know, anytime he would say something poop related, 1836 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 4: it would make it on its way onto a meme. 1837 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 4: I'd just like to take Internet culture and bring it 1838 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:33,679 Speaker 4: to the private sphere. 1839 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're good at that. I think maybe sort of 1840 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 1: along those lines, cracking jokes about what I will call 1841 01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: in quotations like coworkers. But what I mean by that 1842 01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 1: are like people that we all know that like work 1843 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 1: in this building. Be it like an office manager or 1844 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,599 Speaker 1: the security guard that wants to talk about his diet 1845 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: all the time, just like you know, everybody here knows. 1846 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,720 Speaker 1: So the odd joke, you know, to light in the 1847 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,479 Speaker 1: mood or whatever, it's a bonding experience for us with 1848 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 1: all of these sort of like outsiders, not better against us, 1849 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 1: but they are just a part of our weird lives. 1850 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 1: But I also think the answer to try and keep 1851 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 1: things light is asking Lee as many follow up questions 1852 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,880 Speaker 1: about whatever he is talking about, because that is where 1853 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 1: we just get gold, be it on the podcast or 1854 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 1: when the mics are turned off. I just think we look. 1855 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 1: I just love asking Lee questions about his thought process 1856 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 1: and anything, so I think that helps. 1857 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm really surprised you didn't yell him for dropping his 1858 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 3: kombucha bottle cap earlier in the show. 1859 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,599 Speaker 6: It was like, mid, I'm like, didn't pick that up? 1860 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that one. 1861 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: I saw it and I thought about saying something, but 1862 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 1: pure accident. I'm a man, least part you know he'll miss, 1863 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 1: he'll miss a layup inside and they'll fumble a kombucha cap. 1864 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 1: But a man's funny from the tree. That's it for 1865 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 1: rapid Fire. 1866 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 3: That is it for rapid Fire. 1867 01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 1: That's a long one. Thanks so much for downloading and listening. Guys, 1868 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,400 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. I hope you were listening to 1869 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,040 Speaker 1: this on your commute, whether it's a good or a 1870 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,240 Speaker 1: bad one. Don't forget to rate and review No Dunks 1871 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 1: on Apple podcasts. We don't ask for much but five stars, baby. 1872 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 1: When you can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at 1873 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 1: No Dunks, Inc. Keep your emails coming No Dunks at 1874 01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 1: the Athletic dot com. What are you doing this weekend? 1875 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Leave guys? 1876 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,840 Speaker 6: Think planned? Yeah, we do have something on what is that. 1877 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:22,720 Speaker 3: I know. 1878 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 6: I know my wife's been out this week, so where 1879 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 6: our schedule is a little up. But there's definitely something 1880 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 6: on the calendar Sunday afternoon, like what like a birthday 1881 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 6: some sort of playdate get get together thing. Yeah, I 1882 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 6: don't know where it is though. 1883 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: What do you do with the other dads when you're 1884 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 1: on the playdate or other moms? 1885 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 6: It just depends on who the dad is. Some some 1886 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 6: dad you're tied with. Some dads want to talk ball, yeah, 1887 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 6: oh yeah, and some dads just want to chill. 1888 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 3: What do you want? 1889 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Are you a chill dad? 1890 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 6: Yeah? I don't. I don't really want to talk ball 1891 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 6: because the dads, the other dads really just want to 1892 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 6: just unload on you their opinions. 1893 01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1894 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,559 Speaker 6: You know, Like I had one guy telling me about 1895 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,400 Speaker 6: how good Jonas Allanjunis was one time. 1896 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 1: Oh he's not wrong. 1897 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, he's fine, but he was like, 1898 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 6: this guy's a hall of fame and I'm like, well, 1899 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,080 Speaker 6: but you know, I didn't he didn't really want to 1900 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 6: hear account of argument. He just wanted to tell me 1901 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:14,760 Speaker 6: he just loved Valentinis. 1902 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, it's not for about 1903 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:17,639 Speaker 1: half an hour if. 1904 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,720 Speaker 6: Him telling me about Valente, like, yeah, he's got the 1905 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. 1906 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:25,519 Speaker 1: Man, I think my kid filled out to around me. 1907 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 1: All right, Clipper Brooks, you heard. 1908 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 4: It here first, have a great time, turn up. 1909 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember 1910 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 3: in more horse talk, According to Espionation, basketballer Lamello Ball 1911 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 3: has had his season in Australia come to an end 1912 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 3: because of an injury, and he's going to spend more 1913 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 3: time with his horse, Lamello. I yell it because his 1914 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 3: name is written in all caps. His horse's name is Lamello. 1915 01:27:59,400 --> 01:27:59,920 Speaker 4: That's true. 1916 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 3: Story, Wow, pretty sure it's it's true. 1917 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:04,639 Speaker 6: It's true. It's apt. 1918 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,760 Speaker 4: This is a whole emergency pod. We gotta talk about 1919 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 4: LaMelo Ball's horse, LaMelo. 1920 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,719 Speaker 1: All right, you'll hear from us later. It race the weekend. 1921 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 5: People, good touch, out of your hand, your body, smile. 1922 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:22,640 Speaker 6: I need to see just wold you are always on