WEBVTT - Super Bowl Contenders Draft 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:06.559 And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:09.480 What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ? Buck 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:10.880 with you? Buck? How are you doing? Man? 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.880 Man? I'm good, DJ, And I'm good because I know 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:15.520 we're going to have a great episode. I know we're 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.639 going to talk about drafting the contenders, the teams that 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:20.759 we think are legit when it comes to having a 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.239 chance to go the distance. But I need to pick 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.799 your brain a little bit because I have all these 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:30.040 conversations obviously your tie with the Chargers. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:30.720 My time with the Jaguars. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.840 Sometimes you get into these discussions, sometimes with co workers, 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.159 sometimes with fans about what's going on, what can you do? 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.360 And one of the questions that has kind of come 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:40.840 up to. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:46.120 Me has been, can you be a team that drafts 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.680 quote unquote good guys, good character guys, But can you 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.680 comprise that same team with enough dogs to compete at 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.080 a high level. So what I want to lean into 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.440 you and have a conversation like we would if we 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.440 were in the room talk about dogs, and we talk 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.880 about like those high level competitors when we're on school 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.840 calls and when we're looking at the process, the pre 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.800 draft process. How can we determine the guys that are 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.959 dogs versus the guys that are super talented. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.680 But they may not have that that dog. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.120 Persona that you need, that you have to have to 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.280 be able to get to the next level. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.760 Well, there's that old line from Tony LaRussa. Right, when 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.040 your best players are your best leaders and your best workers, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.000 you've got something special, right, that's the that's the ultimate goal, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:34.800 because you can you don't. We won't put them in 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.360 two camps of like, here's the high character you know, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:43.480 good dudes, and then here's the ultimate warrior. Maybe maybe 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.520 some character flaws there, but there's some dog in those guys, 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.920 like you, you know, I think you can have your 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.000 cake and eat it too. Those guys are few and 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.800 far between. They're hard to find, the guys that have 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:54.640 all those things. 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.160 Workings of the world. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.559 Oh, John Lynch was the one that came to mind, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.680 you knowbody like that. Yeah, So there's there are guys. 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.720 I mean, Derek Brooks is another one. I mean, just 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.680 thinking off of that one, that one team, but that 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.480 I think the uh, the common thread. Right, if we're 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.400 going to say the great teams, they will have that 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.360 competitive nature to them. That's the common thread. Now some 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.920 of the stuff, you might have a little bit a 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.160 little bit more buttoned up player and then maybe someone 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.760 who's maybe had some transgressions or made some mistakes. But 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.639 if they don't share that that trait, I don't think 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.040 you have a good team. I think you have to 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.760 collect as many of those guys as you can. Now, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.640 the harder question that you asked is how do you 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:43.800 find that out about guys. There's a lot of different 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.000 ways you can do it. I think some simple things 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.280 who are the guys that who are the guys that 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.000 watch the most tape at or away from the facility? 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.440 And there's ways to get that information. Now, I mean 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.880 you can trust out there, you can track it on 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.760 your high school team. You can how much kids? How 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.400 much your kids watching huddle? Yeah, So you can start 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.320 there by developing relationships with video guys and different things 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.200 like who's watching the most. Okay, let's that's a that's 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.959 a good one. Who's when you go out to practice, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.160 who's the front of the line, who's leading drills, Who's 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.480 who's bringing energy and life to a practice, especially in 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.880 the middle of the season of mundane you know, Wednesday 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.240 practice who's out there, Who's who's bouncing around and has 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.280 some life to him? Who's holding other guys accountable? From 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.520 that standpoint, I think going in there and uh, I'm not. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.680 I think the worst question in scouting are the one 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.720 to ten, one to ten? How would you rate him 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.600 as a worker? Like no, no, no, no, this guy? What time 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.600 does he come in? How long is he stay? What 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.840 does he do? What does he do? Beyond that? And 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.880 you can talk to him, you can talk to his teammates. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.640 What do you like? Everybody has the same schedule. I 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.480 don't care about that. Tell me outside of that schedule 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.120 what you're doing and how you're preparing And because buck, 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.640 I think to boil it all down, like where is 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.000 its importance at for you? 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:57.160 Like? 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.600 How important is this to you? That tells you if 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.080 you got to it's. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.480 Funny because you took me to where my mind goes is. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.360 I think it's as simple as like it or love it? 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.600 Do you like it or do you love it? Because 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.680 if you like it, you may clock in and do 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.920 bankers hours. Hey, I come in at eight, I'll leave 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.120 it five. If you love it, you're coming in early 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.120 and you're staying late and you're obsessed with it. You're 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.640 obsessed with different parts of it. That leads you to 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.000 get to the facility early, That leads you to watch 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.680 even more tape when you get home, because there's a 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.359 level of pride in your performance that you take that 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.240 you have to be the most prepared in it. Now 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.839 everyone and I would say this, like the Detroit Lions 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.280 of kind of look they talked about grit, right, that's 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.240 kind of the moniker that they always talk about. Angela 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:51.040 Duckworth talks about grit is the combination of passion and perseverance. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.840 So how much do I love it? How much does 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:54.520 it mean to me? 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.279 How much do I love it enough to go through 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.960 the setbacks that I have to go through to get 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.080 on the other side. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.320 To me, DJ, I'm. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.359 Looking for guys that love it, and it's not you 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.160 telling me like we all have done those baked those 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:10.599 canned interviews with the players. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.320 Yeah you love football or whatever. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.240 No, no, no, show me how much you love it by 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.520 me being able to not only ask people what you 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.760 do around the facility, me being able to document how 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.760 much you're in the game, but me also seeing you 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:28.240 display that energy and enthusiasm about the game, in practice, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.919 in film, in games, you can just sense those guys 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.960 that are I would say culture changers because when they're 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.280 on the field, like you feel them. We've all been 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.560 around those guys that did it. You were in Baltimore, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.000 so you saw Ray Lewis and Ed Reied and what 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.680 they brought every day to the tape and how they 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.120 made everybody else respond to me, I think when we're 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.679 talking about the draft process and we're talking about building 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:56.080 a team, man, having the love it guys is probably 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.080 more important than the most having the most talented guys. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.560 Where do you stand on recall? Because I know, you 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.680 know we always tell the story about Mahomes with recall, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.240 But I always say, like you think about when you're 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.120 growing up and you go to Disneyland and your parents 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.120 will say you remember this day the rest of your life. Well, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.440 why will you remember it the rest of your life? 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.080 Because it was important, It was important, and it's burned memory. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.480 So if you're talking to players, the more specific they 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.000 can get. I can go back, Hey, week three, you 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.240 were playing this team. I don't care what position you are, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.480 and you can tell me a lot of specifics, a 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.960 lot of information about that game. You know why because 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.279 you studied a ton before that game. You were in 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.599 the moment and took everything in and were aware and 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.560 concentrate and focused during the game, and then after the 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.360 game you went back and watched it and studied it 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.920 and learn from your mistakes. So like you maintain all 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.919 this is not like scramming for a test that's in 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.760 and out. Like, that's not the people that you want. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.240 You want the people that have a little bit of 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.680 an obsession with this thing and both their preparation, their 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.080 focus and then learning from those games. That's why I 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.680 think those guys that have recall and can tell specific 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.479 instances about you know, what coverage we were in, or 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.920 what formation they were lined up in, or what this 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.360 guy said or what the coach told me in between 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.800 plays in the third series of the second Like, I 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.080 think that shows you that it matters to them. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.560 I think, and we keep referencing Luke Keigley, And the 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.640 reason why I referenced him is because I think our 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.880 conversation with Luke Keigley are so fascinating. And it's not 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.480 fascinating in terms of just the knowledge that he shares, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.320 but it is the recall, it is the attention to 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:33.080 detail with which he shares that information DJ. To me, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.640 that's kind of like the standard because the great ones 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.920 that we've been around they have that. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.280 You think about our casual conversations. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.480 Pat Mahomes is always one that we referenced when he 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.200 came into the studio and he's able to recall the 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.760 game versus k State where you asked him about hey man, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.640 this play that happened, and to think and how he 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.720 could just dial it up and give you that information. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.160 To me, that's what it's about. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.600 It is going above and beyond the normal expectations of 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:04.160 a player to be able to outline detail, articulate, follow up, 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.960 give feedback, take feedback. Those are the things that matter, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.280 and the teams that have the advantage in the scouting 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.680 world are the ones who are willing to do a 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.960 little extra to make sure their guys have it. We've 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.200 talked other things, probably about the advantages that you now 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.280 have with Zoom and how you can interview guys far 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.440 more than you could back in the day when we 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.480 were doing it and it was just face to face 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.280 and the train station and the combine and those things. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.679 You now can periodically check in on guys to know 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.520 how much they really know, and you never know until 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.800 you get someone in the building, but you can tell 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.199 by the preparation process and how they take everything seriously 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:41.640 or whatever. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:42.800 So that's a. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.520 Question that has kind of come up to me and 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.200 sometimes like, yeah, I can stand on the thing, but 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.720 I like to have these conversations so the aspiring scouts 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.760 that we have listening to the thing, they can think 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.960 a little deeper about the process and the types of 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.760 guys that you want, because it goes is beyond the 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.280 traits and the talent. A lot of times, it's it's 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.760 a nasty that people show when it comes to being 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:07.880 able to get to the next level. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.800 It's funny. That's why I like to go back and 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.520 read reports. And you know, since crossed over into the media, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.679 this will be I think this will be my thirteenth 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.440 draft coming up maybe uh oh wow, yeah, here you've 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:21.400 been here a couple of years. 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.920 Long, twin so fifteen going on to sixteen. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.960 Yeah, so this is my on this side of things. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.760 So when I've gone to this side, I just put 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.959 out a top one fifty players. I keep my notes 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.120 on four hundred players inside an Excel sheet, but I 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.920 write a summary on just the top fifty. So but 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.040 fifty is a good sample size to go back over 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.040 thirteen years. And we've done it with hits and missus before, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.880 or I've gone through in red old reports. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:45.520 Buck. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:50.000 It is very rare for me to read a report 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.920 and have the physical ability change on a player, very rare. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.720 And I'll say, Okay, gosh, this guy was my forty 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.480 ninth player the physical stuff, man, but he's ended up 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.040 being he he should have been the first player in 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.000 the draft. I'm like, yeah, but if you read the 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.400 physical stuff, like, there's not much has changed from the 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.119 physical I didn't know this guy was a psycho competitor. 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.240 I didn't know this guy was going to you know, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.280 dial in his nutrition and change his body, you know, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.040 from from how he was in Cowage to what he 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.520 is now. Like, those are the things. There's those variables 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.000 that and that's that's what All these guys are talented, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.000 All these guys that come in every year, the top 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.840 first round guys, they're all talented, but fifty percent of 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.240 them hit, and you know, twenty five percent of them 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.079 are okay, and twenty five percent of them wash out. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.400 Why is that? It ain't because of the ability that 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.880 we're watching on tape. That's not it. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.120 Nah. This level, everyone's talented and you have a pool 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.920 of players that are all similar when it comes to 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:49.080 physical traits. The thing that separates them is the mental. Uh. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.400 And then I would say like the heart, and like 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.080 heart is like kind of cliche when people talk about that, 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.600 but it really is to grind is their willingness to 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.960 do anything and everything in the pursuit of something that 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.880 they love, which is loving the game, but more importantly 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.240 loving being one that is different than everybody else playing 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.240 the game. Meaning they want to be elite in some way, 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.880 shape or form with their performance, so they're willing to 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.600 go above and beyond to get that done. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.520 Yeah. No, I think it's it's that's what scouting is, man. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:24.040 I think again, you can give a computer to anybody 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.160 and give them access to the video, and I think 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.080 most people will see similar things in players and be 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.280 able to project similarly. But the other stuff that you 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.560 find out at a long time that that that's what 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.719 the deciding factor is and that goes a long way 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.120 and determine in their success. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.400 So now let's get to the show. Let's talk about 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.440 some of the stuff. Did you want to talk about. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.679 No, I love that. I love that. Well, let's take 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.480 a quick break. We'll come back and we'll get into 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.800 a little draft, or we'll draft the contenders in the league. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:59.080 We'll do that right for this, all right, Buck, So 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.920 we've got to get two of each. Right, two AFC, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:07.640 two NFC will each get four contenders, will do a draft. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.480 I was willing to give you the first pick, but 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.720 you were proactive. You're the bigger man. You came in 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.640 and said I get the first pick. So, as someone 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.560 who has the first pick and you're going to draft contenders, Buck, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:26.200 there are exactly two five and oh teams, two undefeated teams, 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.559 one of which just happens to win the Super Bowl 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.360 every year. So I think I'll go there. I'll take 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.200 the Kansas City chief first pick. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.280 So your believer, no matter what goes on, you. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.840 Believe they just win games. I mean, I've saw it 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.480 in personally. It's not aesthetically pleasing. It's not the high 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.480 flying high wire act that was fun to watch in 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.240 years past. But winners win, you know, and. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:49.640 There is something to that. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.960 So what's funny about the Kansas City Chiefs Everything that 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.280 they said when they won their first Super Bowl has 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.320 come to fruition, but it's come to fruition in a 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.760 different way than we anticipated it. After they won that 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.200 first one, they talked about a dynasty and how this 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.720 was going to be a dynastic franchise because of what 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.240 they had on offense, Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce and 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.240 throwing it over the yard. They lose the next year. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.520 They didn't eventually make a move where they get rid 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:16.320 of Tyreek Hill. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.640 But now they come back and went back to. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.080 Back and they've created a dynasty because they won three 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.640 in a short period. They have the opportunity, it looks like, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.559 to have a three peat maybe, So they are the dynasty. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.960 And the thing that is a common occurrence for dynasties 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.120 is they do whatever is necessary to win. And this 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.240 is the team that knows how to do whatever is 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.480 necessary to win games. Whether it's the offense need to 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.520 play with Pat Mahomes extending plays, whether it's the defense 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.040 coming up with plays either through their personnel, Chris Jones 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:54.959 and Trent McDuffie making place or Steevezpacnulo dialling up something 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.480 exotic in the fourth quarter and a guy to have 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.080 a situation to get off the field. They know how 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.679 to do it, so I can't really dispute them being 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.240 number one. So they should go to the top of 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.839 the list. So I'm good with that. So my team 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.120 is gonna be one that we've talked about, and we've 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.960 talked about this team because they kind of embody the 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.240 city that they play in and that's Detroit. And we 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.320 talked about the primetime window and why the Detroit Lions 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.360 are going to be at throwing in the side for 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.560 some NFC teams for a while. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:25.800 They'll build the right way. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.520 DJ A lot of times when we think of teams, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.640 we talk about the quarterback first or whatever, and I'm say, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.920 Jerry Goff is a perfect quarterback for this team. But 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.560 when I look at this team, offensive line might be 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.040 the best in football. They can beat you up. They 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.960 can play a smash mouth style of play. That look 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.680 the flashy stuff that they do on the perimeter, the 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.600 AMA Saint Brown and Jamison Williams. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.400 That stuff catches the tension. But at the end of the. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.640 Day, when they want to win, they gonna line up 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.520 and they're gonna run the football behind that offensive line 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.600 and two running backs that are really good and Dave. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.600 Montgomery and Jimier Gibbs. They can protect the quarterback. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.120 And then defensive granted Dan Campbell for hanging with Aaron Glenn. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.440 Aaron Glenn has kind of figured it out how to 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.400 play that defense. They're hurt this year by the loss 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.320 of Aiden Hutchinson. That really hurt him because if he's there, 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.320 I think he's a no brainer, and I think maybe 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:18.240 you debate the number one thing. But even without Aiden Hutchinson, man, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.200 this team is good enough to go to distance. And 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.000 I would say this, they should have went the distance 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.160 last year because they had all right there, right there. 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.040 But the Detroit Lines my first fit. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.640 Trust me, as a pottery fan, I know about having 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.600 somebody on the ropes and not being able to finish it. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:32.280 But I don't know. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.040 Sometimes, like as a boxing fan, I would say, maybe 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:36.840 that was that was the rope of dope. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.360 That was the dope. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.640 But I'm gonna make sure DJ, We're gonna get you 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.480 one of those replica rings, one of those replica rings 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.160 that sometimes season ticket holders get. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.160 We will send one down there to you. I've already 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.400 given up on the Mets. I'm going with the Yankees now. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.040 Michael Fabiano, I need the Yankees to win that thing. Uh, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.720 that's just terrible, all right. Look, I I love Detroit. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.680 That injury is a tough injury for them. I was debating, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.400 I'll be honest with I was debating between two teams 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.520 with this next pick, Houston and Baltimore. That was where 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.520 I was going to go. And I'm thinking Baltimore a 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:17.520 little more experienced, Lamar a little more accomplished. But I'm 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.200 telling you, Bucket, and I'll tell you what my pick, 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.000 and then I'll ask you the question. I'm taking Houston. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.040 Which defense you trust more? Between Houston and Baltimore, which 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.320 sounds weird with Baltimore's long tradition of defense. I trust 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.160 Houston more as a more complete team right now defensively 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:33.000 than Baltimore. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:35.560 I can see that. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.000 And the reason why I can see that is because, look, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.800 Dimiko Ryans finds a way to get it done, and 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:41.960 they have a talented defense. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.320 They've upgraded the defense. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.120 You thinking about Danil Hunter coming over joining Will Anderson, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.160 Derek Stingle, He's one of the best corners in football. 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.520 I mean, they have a lot of intriguing pieces to 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.400 the puzzle, and he keeps the energy up as they're 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.720 kind of going through. You know, the thing that I 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.400 would say is I worry about their offensive line. I 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.880 worry about their offensive line being able to help them 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.840 get it done in the end because they've had some injuries. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:12.160 They haven't had the greatest play from their front line unit, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.920 and I think it has impacted now, it has impacted 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.920 the way the CJ. Stroud performs. That's it, man, They're 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.480 really good. They're in the mix. I can see them. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.360 I see them making making the play, making a push. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:25.960 You're up what you got for your second pick? 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.600 DJ like, So this is this is tough, right. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:35.160 So the the the logical person wants to say, Hey, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.040 the Baltimore Ravens, I'm gonna take them, Lamar Jackson, Derrick 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.159 Henry all that they're running game, they're doing that. The 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:45.600 concerns about the defense are one and are valid, zachly 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.800 where I know Dan Pieces coming over to help them. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.200 I just worry about them in the postseason. And let's 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.240 be honest, my faith wanes in the Baltimore Ravens because 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.639 until I see them do it in the postseason, I 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.800 can't necessarily believe that they're going to do it in 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.280 the whole season. So now I'm looking at a bunch 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.359 of teams that are just kind of all there. So 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.000 you got Atlanta, you get the Buffalo Bills, the Pittsburgh 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.560 still is the Bucks, the Packers and Eagles, the Niners. 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.600 And I'm gonna say this and DJ, it's hard for 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.359 me to say that I'm gonna say this team can 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:18.640 go to super Bowl, but I'm gonna say it anyway. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:19.480 Let's put it out there. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.040 Uh, let's go with M. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.200 It's gonna be tough me. I can't believe you're. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.040 Gonna get heat. I can already tell it you're gonna 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:28.680 get heat. 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.480 I believe that I'm gonna say that this team I 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.280 think can go all the way. But I'm gonna say this. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.360 Let's go with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as a team. Ooh, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.720 and here's why we're gonna talk about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.920 DJ Offensively, even when they have bad games, they still 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.200 light up the scoreboard. Baker Mayfield had a bad game 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.199 against the Newland Saints. They put a fifty broker on 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.560 the Saints. They have found a synergy and a connection 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.840