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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Henderson, and we were here to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about movies once again with you today, Danielle, what's

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Speaker 3: happening with you?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Not much? I have. I have a proposition for

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Speaker 2: you because I had you know how like when you know,

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Speaker 2: you look by yourself and things happen and you're just like,

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Speaker 2: this sentence that I'm about to say makes sense to

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Speaker 2: me because I was in the situation. But then you think,

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Speaker 2: like if I tried to explain this to someone else,

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Speaker 2: none of this would make sense. Yes, all the time,

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Speaker 2: So like, things just happen when you're like, I'm just

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Speaker 2: gonna say the wildest thing, and no one's gonna understand

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Speaker 2: how this. It's gonna be like a tale to get

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Speaker 2: to how it happened. So I thought, like, because I

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Speaker 2: knew you would understand, I thought I would give you

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Speaker 2: a little guessing game.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, I love I love you.

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Speaker 2: Know.

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Speaker 3: I don't like all games, Oh I know, but I

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Speaker 3: like guessing games from you.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that.

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Speaker 2: Well, then you are going to be in for a

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Speaker 2: doozy so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: a sentence about something that happened to me this week,

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Speaker 2: and I want you to try to guess how it happened,

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Speaker 2: how it happened? Okay, Okay, like, how did I get

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Speaker 2: myself in this situation?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? I love this already? Go ahead, go.

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Speaker 2: Ahead, Okay. So the sentence is, and this truly happened,

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Speaker 2: I dropped my Diva cup in potting soil. How did

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Speaker 2: that happen?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me clear the mind.

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Speaker 3: I've got my prayer hands to my to my third eye.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you who don't know, a Diva

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Speaker 2: cup is is a menstrual product for people who have periods.

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Speaker 2: So go how did I drop it in potting soil

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Speaker 2: something that's supposed to be in my body? Okay? How

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Speaker 2: did that happen?

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Speaker 3: So here, right off the rip, here's what I think

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Speaker 3: might have happened. Okay, I feel like it started with

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Speaker 3: a faulty bathroom situation in your home. Maybe it's the

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Speaker 3: orgy bathroom. Maybe something happened where.

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Speaker 1: You were forced to use the bathroom outside in some

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Speaker 1: way and then and then maybe did that required you

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Speaker 1: to divest I don't even know what the word is

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Speaker 1: cut divest. That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Part of what do you mean? Definitely like in the

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Speaker 2: process of investing funds, Well, part.

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Speaker 3: Of the bullet points for this situation was that you

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Speaker 3: needed to remove the diva cup and maybe you were

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Speaker 3: in your garden and maybe you were doing, you know,

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Speaker 3: planting some merrygolds.

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Speaker 1: Or something like that, and that's how that happened. Am

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Speaker 1: I off the mark completely? I don't know, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Totally but I love this as a basis for a

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Speaker 2: short story. Like you're just planting marrygals in your diva

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Speaker 2: cup pops out because your orgy bathroom was not working properly,

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Speaker 2: so forced you didn't have to empty your diva cup

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Speaker 2: outside and onto some.

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Speaker 1: Merrygolds that you just planted, And that's how that happened.

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Speaker 2: It's it's called instant compost. Just throw some of your

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Speaker 2: own blood all over the plants sprinkling around. Oh shit,

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Speaker 2: and the next year you're gonna have like seven foot

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Speaker 2: sunflowers up.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, and now I am dying.

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Speaker 2: To know, well, I still want you to guess. I

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Speaker 2: will say it happened inside, it happened.

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Speaker 1: It continues, Oh my god, I love this even more. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's do I get like three strikes or like,

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Speaker 1: how does this?

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Speaker 2: Let's go with a three strikes. So that was your

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Speaker 2: first guest. I was outside planting, okay, outside planting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so so that did not happen.

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Speaker 3: So strike one has already been declared. Okay, do you

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Speaker 3: have a coup in the pudding?

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Speaker 2: So you were.

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Speaker 3: Repotting a monster of plants in your bathroom because it

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Speaker 3: was the easiest place to get messy, and then you

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Speaker 3: we're trying to lift the pot maybe, but then you

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Speaker 3: had you would have had your pants off. How okay,

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Speaker 3: let me walk this bathroom a bit. Let me walk

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Speaker 3: this back. You would have had to have your pants

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Speaker 3: just fallen out. Nope, did not just fall out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, to just fall So that's I guess strike too.

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Speaker 1: Unknowingly I fucked up, so.

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Speaker 2: Strike however, I will say what you got correct is

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Speaker 2: I was in my bathroom at the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So okay.

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Speaker 2: Here we go last guess. So so far, the hints

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Speaker 2: are it was inside. I was in my bathroom at

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Speaker 2: the time, and just to repeat the sentences. I dropped

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Speaker 2: my deep A cup in some potting soil, okay?

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Speaker 1: Did okay? Were you in the bathtub?

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Speaker 3: And the and and the sewer got backed up and

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Speaker 3: it caused like a potting soil flood, like a like

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Speaker 3: in the shining or something.

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Speaker 1: Did that have been possible.

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Speaker 2: The faucets just start running soil because my house is

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Speaker 2: absolutely haunted, So it's not off completely off the mark

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Speaker 2: that could happened.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean you know, I was trying to

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Speaker 3: base all of this in some kind of reality, so yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Assuming it's not that though. It wasn't You weren't in

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Speaker 1: the tub?

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Speaker 2: Okay, nope, And I'll give you another guess if you

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Speaker 2: got more.

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Speaker 1: I mean I could do infinite guesses. You don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Let's go one more guess. Okay, well, we're not in

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Speaker 2: the tub. I was in my bathroom, Okay, I dropped

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Speaker 2: my Diva cup and some potting soil. How did it happen?

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Speaker 3: It was not in the tub, It was in the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: Was did you make some kind of I don't know,

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Speaker 3: some kind of art out of a toilet? Like did

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Speaker 3: you plant up plant a cactus and a toilet or

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Speaker 3: something because it was unusable, and then you forgot or something.

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Speaker 1: And you ran in the bathroom like I just have

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Speaker 1: to change my Diva cup. And then they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, I made a planter out of this toilet.

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Speaker 3: That I don't use, and now there's a Diva cup

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Speaker 3: sitting on the soil of this planter that I made.

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Speaker 1: Is that mean?

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Speaker 2: Oh God, my pants? No, but god, I wish that

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Speaker 2: was the answer. A planter toilet that I forgot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was thinking, you know that black toilet

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Speaker 1: which is unusable. It's an unusable bathroom, as.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned, haunted closed off right now.

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Speaker 1: You're right, And so I was thinking, well, maybe she

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Speaker 1: turned it into like some kind of I don't know,

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's like plants growing out of the

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Speaker 2: There could I haven't been in that room in a year,

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Speaker 2: so there could be something growing in those shit. But

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Speaker 2: that is not what happened.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, my mind is racing with what this

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to give you some relief. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you what happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm dying to know.

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Speaker 2: So the even cups have to be cleaned, right, So

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Speaker 2: you take them out, you clean them, and for some

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Speaker 2: people it's a whole process. I will say that I

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Speaker 2: was in my bathroom, which is still haunted, but I

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Speaker 2: have to use it. Yeah, there is in my bathroom

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Speaker 2: a tub that genuinely it's not a jacuzzi tub, but

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Speaker 2: it is like a William Taft sized tub, which is

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Speaker 2: furthering the line of this house was used for orgies

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Speaker 2: because it's just like a tub that can fit eight people,

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Speaker 2: and it has like it's up half the bathroom, more

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Speaker 2: you can only imagine gorgeous eighties terra cotta tile. So,

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Speaker 2: because this thing is so massive and horrible and unusable,

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Speaker 2: truly unusable. Like I'm six feet tall, I cannot get

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Speaker 2: I put a sheet over it so that Carrott wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna say you just were like dead

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Speaker 1: bodied it. You were just like yeah, yes.

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Speaker 2: I closed its eyelids and put a sheet over it,

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Speaker 2: and then I lined the rim of it with plants

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Speaker 2: This is not this is not a fixture that either

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Speaker 2: I dead bodied it, closed its eyelids, lined it with plants.

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Speaker 2: And it's also one of the rooms that gets like

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Speaker 2: So my plants are thriving, thriving in there, right, So

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Speaker 2: I decided to repot some of the plants in there,

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Speaker 2: Like it was time and I had to do some

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Speaker 2: brought them, brought them downstairs, and did some repotting on

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Speaker 2: like cleaning some of the leaves, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: getting it ready because I thought like I'll do that

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Speaker 2: up here rather than downstairs. Right, you took out some

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Speaker 2: soil to then spill over onto the tub, casing like

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Speaker 2: the wooden the wooden, the wooden coffin and for this

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Speaker 2: incredible tub. Yes, so there was just loose soil on

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Speaker 2: the edge. Okay, repotted left the plants downstairs in the

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Speaker 2: repotted them, Yeah, watered them, cleaned them up, left them

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Speaker 2: to get some sunshine downstairs. So the next day I'm

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Speaker 2: in the soil around the edge of the tub that

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I need okay, I might use you to

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Speaker 3: back up. I don't usual probably back up a slight scoach.

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Speaker 3: And because I will actually listen, I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 3: this question because and I don't want you to think

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Speaker 3: I'm some like weird Catholic girl that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't like Okay, too late, fair, fair enough. I I

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Speaker 1: have never used a Diva cup, right, because I want people,

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Speaker 1: I want to present steaks do you know what I'm saying? Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: So explain if you will.

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Speaker 3: How this Diva cup works, because it's actually like not

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Speaker 3: it's like inside of your body.

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Speaker 2: It is a silicone cup that you have to fold

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Speaker 2: like origami, throw it up in you. Yes. Then it

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Speaker 2: works with suction, so you have to like twist it

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Speaker 2: to get a seal. It doesn't hurt at all. It's

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Speaker 2: actually very comfortable and I wish I'd had this when

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Speaker 2: I was younger. Okay, it is extremely comfortable. Sure, but

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Speaker 2: it just kind of like you know, latches on in,

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Speaker 2: so there's a seal, nothing leaks. It's like ready to

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Speaker 2: just collect all your fluids.

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Speaker 1: and clean and clean? Okay? Is this often?

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Speaker 3: And this is because and na diva cup is like,

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Speaker 2: And if you keep it clean, it lasts for years.

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Speaker 3: Right, So what I'm asking now is that like you

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Speaker 2: I was cleaning it in between insertion removal in the sink.

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Speaker 2: Hundred percent, like slipped right out of my hand, soapy,

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Speaker 2: But then I'm looking around my room, at my my bathroom,

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Speaker 1: Including the dirt consists outside.

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Speaker 2: Dirt from me repotting a fucking plant, snake plant just

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Speaker 2: Cleaning, the extra steps. And trust me, I have in

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Speaker 2: the past dropped a Diva cup in a public toilet

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Speaker 2: and you just got to let that shit go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's just sign of the cross goodbye. Like I will

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Speaker 2: I don't ruin the plumbing of this building, but you cannot.

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Speaker 2: I cannot use that again. There's no amount of boiling

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Speaker 1: See, okay, I listen.

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Speaker 3: I am theoretically completely on board with a Diva cup,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm very much, like I want to say, of

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Speaker 3: but I am not. If I did, I wouldn't care.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, of course, like this is this is what,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is that?

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Speaker 1: Well, there's two fears really.

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Speaker 3: One is that it's just gonna it's not gonna be enough,

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Speaker 1: And then it's like a pot over boiling. Right, you're

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: But then the second one is that it drops in

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Speaker 1: a public restroom. Yeah, in a nasty truck stop toilet,

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Speaker 1: and you just gotta take the l. You gotta fucking

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Speaker 2: You have to sign to the cross. Goodbye, nice milling, you,

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Speaker 2: thanks for the help all these months, years whatever, and goodbye.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. I could not figure out a

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Speaker 2: to ever reuse. And when you use a deeper cup

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Speaker 2: and you have to take it, you know, take care

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Speaker 2: of it in a public place, you turn into mc

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Speaker 2: guiver like I have come up with some like you know,

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Speaker 2: you go in before you even get into the stall,

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Speaker 2: you're taking paper towels, you get in some wet paper tails.

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Speaker 2: It's just a real dumping ghost scenario.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure sure, And then you know, if listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm on I'm entrepreneur by heart, if if there's ever

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Speaker 1: and it just is a privacy curtain, Like it's a

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Speaker 1: but you're not wanting to subject people to the actual

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Speaker 3: So it's just be like a little a little curtain

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Speaker 3: that goes over your hands. Yeah, you wouldn't even necessarily

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Speaker 3: think it was a Diva cup rints, Like you'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe she's like trying to get her

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Speaker 2: Know, like washing up for surgery in here for some reason.

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Speaker 2: We don't know she's about to excize her own mole.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what's going on behind that curtain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe she's got some talent situation with her fingernails

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Speaker 3: I don't know something like that, Like it could just

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Speaker 2: You will make a million dollars. Here's you will make

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Speaker 2: a million dollars if you do the privacy a Diva

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Speaker 2: cup privacy curtain or Diva cup netting or webbing to

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Speaker 2: catch the cup from falling as you're trying.

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Speaker 1: To fucking genius. Dude, there's okay, maybe this is a

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Speaker 1: two pack. Maybe it's the privacy curtain with the I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like a it's kind of like when you

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Speaker 3: Maybe we have that as an as an add on

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Speaker 3: I have remove it, I don't want it to drop

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Speaker 3: on the absolutely, in the shitty toilet or on the floor,

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Speaker 3: right absolutely, because let me ask you this, they're not cheap,

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Speaker 2: Like forty bucks okay see, and forty bucks over time

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Speaker 2: is nothing that's pennies on the dollar. Forty bucks. You

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Speaker 2: You're literally flushing away forty bucks.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Dude.

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Speaker 3: I'm like kind of going, I don't know, man, I'm

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Speaker 3: there's no reason why we shouldn't have a net safety

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Speaker 3: net in case this thing jumps out from you and

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Speaker 3: like lands in some potting soil lands you know, and

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Speaker 3: the hot dog coral in the gas station you're in or.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, like, because these things will bounce, they will go yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's it's silicon. Yeah, so it's sickery.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they will they will fly like a baseball if

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Speaker 2: you let them. And so I think a five dollars

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Speaker 2: netting situation would be an incredible addition to this product.

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Speaker 2: And I think we should take it to shark tank

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Speaker 2: and see how it rolls.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna prototype this shit, Okay the minute

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Speaker 3: we stop this episode, I'm gonna come up with some drawings.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, maybe we can faticts.

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Speaker 1: We need to go find like some three D printer

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Speaker 2: We can do this, dude, Should we call an architect?

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Speaker 2: Do we need blueprints?

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Speaker 3: Because you wouldn't even be here right now telling me

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Speaker 2: Thank you, so thank you. Just Just give me a netting,

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Speaker 2: just give just give us something to prevent the catastrophe.

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Speaker 2: That is always a waiting when you try to do

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Speaker 2: when there's too much. I don't know, people have kids

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Speaker 2: cup in it. Like, there are many scenarios where I

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Speaker 1: And look not for nothing. Another thing that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: need a mockup of is this damn house of yours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I need you to send me.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to look like the board from Clue where

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Speaker 2: This is why you know.

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Speaker 3: I want to know like where Chauncey and his family

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Speaker 3: I want to know about the I mean, just lay

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Speaker 2: That you know, that's what I'm doing this. And while

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Speaker 2: will I will take video and text it to you,

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Speaker 2: but you really should come see it. I had a

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Speaker 2: when you talk about your house, it doesn't really hit

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Speaker 1: Listen, we've talked about this. We love drawings, you know.

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Speaker 3: We've had a couple of our listeners send us drawings,

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Speaker 3: Like somebody sent us a drawing of Carrot once and

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Speaker 3: it was like a little comic where Eric was in

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Speaker 3: you know, we love art, and if you are making

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Speaker 1: It would be so fun.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like at this point you and I

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Speaker 1: We got like even in like, like, even if it's

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Speaker 1: just therapy to draw a picture of this diva cup

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Speaker 1: flying across a bathroom into some fucking dirt, like, it

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Speaker 1: could be useful. And I definitely want I want a

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Speaker 1: layout of the house like, oh, come immediately, immediately, Oh.

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Speaker 2: It's it's coming, It's happening, and we will be on

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Speaker 2: Shark Tank within the year. We're getting everyone involved in this.

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Speaker 2: It is going to be incredible and my house will

438
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: continue to terrify and amaze and uh, you know, I

439
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: hope I just get some I guess. I hope I

440
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: get to find a decent contractor soon who can help

441
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: me renovate this space so I can stop saying sentences

442
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: like I drop my diva cup in some potting soil.

443
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: That would ultimately be the goal for me is that

444
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: I no longer have to live like I'm in the

445
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: Haunted mansion. Absolutely, but if that's not going to happen,

446
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: then we can at least make money off of it.

447
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: I mean, which one of the sharks do you think

448
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: would would invest? I mean, I kind of think it

449
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: would be Lrie, just because she's so like QBC. You know,

450
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: she's always like anytime there's like some product.

451
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: She's all in.

452
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 3: But I kind of wish it was Mark Cuban. If

453
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: Mark Cuban funded a do you have a Cup privacy

454
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: washing curtain, I.

455
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Speaker 1: Would be fucking thrilled.

456
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: It would rock my world. I think I personally think

457
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: he would walk off the stage and run screaming from

458
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: this idea. I want to think he's cooler than that,

459
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: but I've seen that man turned down like baby products

460
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: because he's like, I'll get it a part of my world,

461
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: you know, I can't be your fucking shark. I think

462
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: he would be out instantly and would absolutely convey that

463
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: by leaving the state in the middle of filming. He

464
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: would just get in his jet and fly the fuck away.

465
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: But if it were Mark Mark Cuban, I think we

466
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: could go places with it. He likes to diversify. You

467
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: never no.

468
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean there's a part of me that thinks he

469
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: would go running because he's like, well, I can't make

470
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: this supply to my basketball team, So I guess it's

471
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: a no from me.

472
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: Well like my food storage fucking company. I mean, it's

473
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: a to me. It's a natural progression from basketball to

474
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: food storage to Diva cup netting. But I don't think

475
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: he'd be somehow, he'd be on board. I think Laurie

476
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: would jump at the chance.

477
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Laurie would jump in a chance, and I would also

478
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: hope that Damon would throw we go at least like

479
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: Havesia's or something.

480
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Make it fashionable, yes, exactly.

481
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: But you know what, I think we're on the way

482
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 3: to creating a very very useful product, not just for

483
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: you but for everybody. And we're gonna be millionaires so fast. Once,

484
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: once we can figure this out, we will take it

485
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 3: to the market and the market will sing.

486
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I got weekend plans now, I'm psyched.

487
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: In the meantime, watch that Diva cup do the.

488
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: Full spring clean the end of the cycles. Bring clean.

489
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: You know, you get two hands on that bad boy.

490
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: You know. Wear gloves, yeah, gardener gloves.

491
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Get some grippies, some grippy gloves.

492
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: Maybe remember those gloves you gave me when you when

493
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: you dropped off your your cacti and you were moving

494
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: to Florida. You had me how sit your plants? And

495
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: Millie dropped off her plants and she's like, all right,

496
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: these are these are stingers, like they'll get you. So

497
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: she dropped off these dope assu gloves and a pair

498
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: of tongs, and was like, here's how you gotta move

499
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: these fucking things, and that's we need equipment for the

500
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: Diva cup. I'm just saying, And Millie, you are already

501
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: the person who was thinking in that way of protection

502
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: and safety. So I know, I know you're I know

503
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: you're the girl, You're the new show, You're the shark

504
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: for me.

505
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, I thank you for saying that. I'm pleased

506
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: as punch to be your girl.

507
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: But I'm also writing a short story about this. And immediately, fuck, dude,

508
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: you're playing my guessing game.

509
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: Uh duh, I love it. Listen if this becomes a

510
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: regular seg I'm on board. I'm on board anytime.

511
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: I got a notebook full of this shit.

512
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's do it. Holy shit, I have

513
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: no idea how to segue.

514
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: Oh there isn't one. If we have anyone still listening,

515
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about movies now. And if you are

516
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: a skipper and you skip that whole first part, now

517
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: come back. We're talking about the movies. We're talking themes.

518
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Listen, in the drinking game of this show, you saying,

519
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: if if anyone's still listening is definitely an entry.

520
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, chuck a pipe.

521
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: So this theme this week, Okay, this is something that

522
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: this is your passion project and I am dying to

523
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: know like how you came about it and like what

524
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: it is.

525
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. What is the theme for

526
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: this week?

527
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Our theme this week is bare minimum romance.

528
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely correct, and let's talk about it. Tell me what

529
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: inspired this?

530
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: So I think it just came from a place where

531
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: having watched a ton of mom coms in my life,

532
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: having watched you know, just kind of watching films and

533
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: looking at how relationships develop on films and if they're

534
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: realistic or not, or if they're funny or heartfelt, and

535
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: then just kind of eventually getting to a point a

536
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: few months ago where I was watching a couple of

537
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: things and you know, back to back, and I was like,

538
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: there's a lot of the bare fucking minimum happening here,

539
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: that people are blowing up to be the most romantic

540
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: shit on the planet, and I think it has fucked

541
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: us for generations. I think the movie I'm gonna talk

542
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: about definitely fucked people for generations.

543
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh of course, And it.

544
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Really pisses me off that, like the way that we

545
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: talk about romance in film in a broad Way is

546
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: often done with the bare fucking minimum of efforts. So

547
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: like if a dude has been a horrible beast throughout

548
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: the whole film and then at the end he comes

549
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: back and he's like, I bought you a fucking daffodil,

550
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: and then people are like, let's get married, let's melt.

551
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is the best fucking relationship of

552
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: all time. And I'm like, really, we're falling for this

553
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: shit just because he decided to not be a fucking

554
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: monster for one day.

555
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: Yes, dude, I was like in my head about this

556
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: theme for weeks because I was like, this totally makes sense,

557
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 3: and I'm looking to find the origin of this right

558
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: because I'm like, is it like a generational thing? Because

559
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: I talk about that a little bit in my movie

560
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: where I'm just like, is it because we came from

561
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: this generation where we had no expectations for fucking anybody,

562
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: and so basically they were like, eh, like, I guess

563
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: this is romance.

564
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, and everyone's just like great. It is

565
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: like we accepted so.

566
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: Little because we weren't expecting anything, Like there's no like

567
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: y you know, we're just extremely realistic, and I guess

568
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: maybe negative.

569
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: Certain I part like, well, these people are pieces of

570
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: shit and we can't do anything about it, so I

571
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: guess we'll just fine, We'll find something to grab onto, right.

572
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: And that that is what also made me think of it.

573
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: Is I'm watching things like Love is Blind or like

574
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: these weird reality shows. I've never watched a bachelor or bachelorette,

575
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: but like, the bare fucking minimum is happening on these

576
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: shows all the time. Yeah, And people are like entrance,

577
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: And I think part of it is like, is it

578
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: that The question that I have, I should say, is

579
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: that it makes me wonder is it how we were

580
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: raised to have no expectations. Is it something that develops

581
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: over time? Is it jadedness? Is it realistic?

582
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

583
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: Is romance kind of no longer the kind of you know,

584
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: the sweeping orchestral fucking thing it used to be, because

585
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: I think bare minimum romance also happens in a lot

586
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: of older films where it's like, here's this dude. He's

587
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: been treating you like shit and living out in the

588
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: wilderness and like fucking ran over your dog and fucking

589
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: buried your mom alive. But he also built you this

590
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: house and you're like, what the fuck, dude. Like in

591
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: the forties and fifties, this shit was happening all the time,

592
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: where at the end of the movie, every single person

593
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: could have said, well, I guess you're fine and that

594
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: was the end of it.

595
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is like this spills onto the

596
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: classic movie fuck boy concept because it's like buck we

597
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: would watch them a movie like The Heiress, which was

598
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: a forties movie, and it's like, Oh, here's this woman

599
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: who's totally in love with this guy and he has

600
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: done nothing for her. He just was hot and showed

601
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: up and maybe has a little bit of panache because

602
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: he went to Europe or some shit, Like what is that?

603
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: You know? So this bare minimum romance has been happening

604
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: for a long as time. We built an entire subgenre

605
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: on it in film, and it just made me think, like,

606
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: what are some good examples of that?

607
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I gotta be honest with you, your movie, WHOA,

608
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: this is a This is gonna be real interesting because

609
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: everybody loves your movie.

610
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: But it hits different. It hits different as you get older,

611
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Because I'm discovering because I've seen this my

612
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: film a lot. Yeah, and it hits different and your film.

613
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: I have so much to say about your film, dude.

614
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: I I I knew you would. I was telling you

615
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: before I listen, I was telling you before we press record,

616
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: like in this weird way, I feel like like we're

617
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: doing like I don't know, we kind of have swapped

618
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: films in a weird way.

619
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: Like I expected you to pick a movie like this,

620
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: just because I know that you know, this movie was

621
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: both was of our generations but also like you know,

622
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: a British writer and a British book, and so I

623
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 3: was thinking, oh, wow, this is like a Danielle movie.

624
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I don't know, but I'm glad that

625
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: we did it this way because then we get to

626
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: both talk about these films which are like very different.

627
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but my cross paths I think I think this

628
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: theme brings them together. And I think the reason I

629
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: did pick my movie is that my movie has had

630
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: people in a fucking headlock since it came out. Oh absolutely,

631
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: And it made me wonder like why like go back

632
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: and look at this movie again and consider what is

633
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: actually happening here. Yeah.

634
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: I have gone through the ringer with your film, for sure,

635
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I'll be sure to talk about it.

636
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: Like I went from like thinking was lame to really

637
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: liking it, like surrendering to the vibe and really liking it,

638
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: and then going, Okay, now that I'm in my mid forties,

639
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: what is this movie to me?

640
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: So I cannot wait for this week. Let's let's get

641
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: in it.

642
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: You're you're going first, so let's jump the fuck in.

643
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: I've got like seven hours worth of shit to say

644
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: about your movie, first and foremost being before you even

645
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: introduce and get into it. Your movie stars a person

646
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: who might be the spokesperson for Bare Minimum Romance.

647
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, one hundred fucking percent, we do it.

648
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: We are gonna get so much hate mail this episode.

649
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: I cannot wait.

650
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: Look, I clearly have nothing else to do. I'm coming

651
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 2: up with diva cup netting in my free time.

652
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: All these what are they called sacred cows? Is that

653
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: what they're called? We're killing them all, We're slicing their throats.

654
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: We're entering our third year of this podcast with no

655
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: take no prisoner's attitude. Take no fucking prisoners.

656
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: Okay, So my film for the theme of Bare Minimum

657
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: Romance was a movie from the year two thousand.

658
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: It was written by dv.

659
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: Di Vicentis, Steve Pink, John Cusack, and Scott Rosenberg, based

660
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: on a book by Nick Hornby.

661
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: Directed by Stephen Frears. It's called High Fidelity.

662
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: What Came First Music? Or The Misery? And they do

663
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: not play the Elvis Costello song at all.

664
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: Yes, they do not, which a big miss, if I'm honest,

665
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: a big miss. I mean we we've already just said it.

666
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: I mean, this is gonna to be such a whale

667
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: of a movie to talk about.

668
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: To just put this in perspective. Okay.

669
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: So in the year two thousand, I was in my

670
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: early twenties. I was the music director at my college

671
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: radio station. Okay, and I was working in a famous

672
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: record store in Atlanta called Criminal Records.

673
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

674
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: So imagine me in this point in my life twenty

675
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: one twenty two seeing this film, Okay, and I'll just

676
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: say it right now. I mean this, I'm a little

677
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: ashamed to say it, almost but maybe not. I was

678
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: extremely into music in this point of my life. I mean,

679
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: maybe even more than movies at this point. Yeah, And

680
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: so of course, like when this movie came out, I

681
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: saw the trailer and I was very intrigued by a

682
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: movie that was about a record store.

683
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: And it starred the gen X hero and crush, John Cusack.

684
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh, if you did not have a crush on John

685
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: Cusack in the eighties and nineties, I did not want

686
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: to talk to you, and I probably still don't. I

687
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: will say, before we destroy this sacred cow of a film,

688
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: I will say two things. As I was watching it,

689
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: because I was gonna ask, I'm like, I wonder what

690
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: Millie's experiences of record store guys? And then within five

691
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: seconds I was like, wait, she was a record store guy. Yes,

692
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: And also I'm like, so I want to hear about that.

693
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: But then, also, it's entirely possible that John Cusack is

694
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: the modern day Gregory Peck in terms of Dix, I

695
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: would destroy in ways that don't make sense because he

696
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: has grown into a cantankerous baseball watching old fuck of

697
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: a dude. And I absolutely love I love the way

698
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: he has shifted from like child actor teen heart throb

699
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: interesting a alt cantankerous old fuck could still get it

700
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: just throwing it out there, even though we were going

701
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: to destroy this film, and this character irritates the fuck

702
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: against right under my skin. Yeah, but John Cusack I

703
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: still got it for you.

704
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: Sorry, listen, he flew too close to the sun with

705
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 3: his role. Let me just say that, like and and

706
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: it's it's the kind of thing like, yes, he was

707
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: the thinking woman's heart throb in the eighties, let's get serious.

708
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: I mean all these movies that he was in, so

709
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: now in this role, you know, he's a grown up.

710
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: I mean it started at basically like he was in

711
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: Gross point Blank and then and then immediately made this

712
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 3: movie pretty much after, but was also Gross point Blank

713
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: was also sort of like one of these like big

714
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: soundtrack films. It was like John Cusack was grown up

715
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: and he was cool and he was an adult and

716
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: it was sort.

717
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Of like less teen angst and more kind of like

718
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: suit guy and you know. And so I was already

719
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: I was already intrigued by this concept that John Cusack

720
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: was getting older, right, and it was maybe like you know,

721
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: becoming you know, becoming a different type of dude in

722
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: this like cultural consciousness.

723
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: So I think it really got cemented in this movie

724
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: where I was like, oh, yeah, like what is what

725
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: is this role?

726
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: And why is it wrecking my life? Like this guy

727
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: and this listen.

728
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: I So there was so he was a huge part

729
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: of why I watched it obviously, but then also Jack

730
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: Black is in this film, yes, right, And at the time,

731
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: I was super into mister Show. I was super into

732
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 3: Tenacious T. And I pretty much thought he was like

733
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: the funniest.

734
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: Guy ever based on those two things. And so I

735
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: was like, I'm in. I mean, how many times could I.

736
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Be in for this quote? And this was a breakout

737
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: role for him, Like this is a role that really

738
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: introduced him to the film watching community to like it

739
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: broke him out of like the smaller LA comedy world

740
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: that he was in. Yes, And I actually watched an

741
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: interview with John Cusack who said that he like part

742
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: of the reason he put him in this film is

743
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: that Jack Black was part of this actors group that

744
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: Tim Robbins put together called the Actors Gang, and he

745
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, did shows and like you know, Tenacious D

746
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: was formed there and like so he saw him there

747
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: and was like, oh, this could be the perfect role

748
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: for that guy. And he could not have been more. Right, Like,

749
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: Jack Black rocked the rocked worlds with this fucking.

750
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: Role absolutely, And this is like I mean, if you

751
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: know Jack Black, now, who's in like you know I

752
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: don't know.

753
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: Wasn't he in Jumanji? I can't remember.

754
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: He's done like a lot of like broad comedy, family

755
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: comedy stuff now, but at the time he was like

756
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: a freak man, like he was like totally crazy, like

757
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: and I I'll get into this later, but you're gonna

758
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: laugh when I say this, because I swear to god,

759
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: I feel like I say this every episode.

760
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: But I read an oral history of High Fidelity.

761
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: I did.

762
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: It's out there on the internet.

763
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: If you didn't, I would be shocked if you didn't.

764
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: But then it made me think, goddamn, do they do

765
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: oral histories of every movie?

766
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: Now? They sure as fuck do. And that's why I

767
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: don't read a lot of websites anymore, because every time

768
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: I pop on one, they're like, here's an oral history

769
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: of the fucking Railroad Gang, and you're like, what, Like,

770
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: why am I reading an oral history of our gang?

771
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: But it is kind of this in this weird way.

772
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: It is kind of like the best record of the

773
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: production of a movie really is that sort of like

774
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: you get all the old people back together and you

775
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: get them to like talk about what the fuck they

776
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: were doing and what the fuck they were thinking and

777
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of invaluable information in a.

778
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: Weird and valuable information and also sounds like my worst nightmare.

779
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: Imagine somebody coming to you right now and being like,

780
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: you worked at Dunkin Donuts in nineteen ninety four. A

781
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: let's sit and talk about that for three hours with

782
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: everyone else that worked there. Nightmare fuel.

783
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: The Oral History of the Dunkin Donuts on Canton Road

784
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: circa nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety seven.

785
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Actually that's that's the only oral history I would read.

786
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: To me, Well, okay, so so just know.

787
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: That I've read an oral history and there and they're

788
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: but go find it. It's interesting. They talk to all

789
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: the writers. There's a lot of stuff in there that

790
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know. But here's the thing, So like, okay,

791
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: for me, like as a record dude, right, you would

792
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: get you would see these types of kind of like

793
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: studio commercial studio movies once in a while about a scene,

794
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: you know, and they have great soundtracks and shit, and

795
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: they're just always so corny and they just miss the mark, right,

796
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 3: And as like a cool person, you're like, I fucking

797
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: hate these movies right, Like to this day, we've been

798
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: on a record for this. I cannot watch Empire Records.

799
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: I just can't get so painfully bad to me, right,

800
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: But to my surprise, I actually thought Hiphidelle was pretty

801
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: good when it came to like all of this cultural stuff, right,

802
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: I mean absolutely, yes. It was a movie about a

803
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: guy and his girlfriend breaking up, right, which we'll talk

804
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: about in a second, obviously, But what I really loved

805
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: about it at the time was that it was about

806
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: music snobs and record store culture and making mixtapes, and

807
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: it was filled with these like archetypes of people that

808
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: I knew, yes, right, yes.

809
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: And I actually went and read the Roger Ebert review

810
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: of this because I was interested to figure out, like,

811
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: you know, he's a Chicago guy. I kind of wanted

812
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: to hear his thoughts on it. And he said something

813
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: and i'll quote him here that really hit me. I

814
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: think it's the exact reason why I have watched this

815
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: movie so much, why I have loved this movie. And

816
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: he said that he recognized everyone in it. And the

817
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: quote is that they're more casual about romance than most

818
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: movie characters, maybe because most movies are simple minded and

819
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: pretend it's earth shakingly important. Whether this boy and girl

820
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: mate forever, when a lot of young romance is just

821
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: window shopping and role playing and everyone knows it. You

822
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: break up, you sigh, you move on, And he talks

823
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: at that's end of the quote. But then he talks

824
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: in this review about how this is a movie for

825
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: people who know a lot about minutia, like people who

826
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: know a lot about things, whether you say, if you

827
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: work in a kitchen, if you work in a bookstore,

828
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: if you work like in any niche kind of employment,

829
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: you recognize these people. And that has always hit hard

830
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: to me that I thought they did that so well

831
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: in this movie.

832
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. And listen.

833
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: At this time, I mean listen, I was working in

834
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: college radio and I worked at a record store. Pretty

835
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: much everyone I knew was someone that basically loved records

836
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: more than people m hm, right, And then they had

837
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: all these kind of weird rules for their lives that

838
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: was kind of based on that.

839
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And.

840
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: Listen, when it comes down to it, I knew like

841
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: five dudes who were just like Dick, like I'm telling you,

842
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: like right down to the record bag, across the body,

843
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: the fucking bell and Sebastian tapes, and they were all

844
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I knew like at least four

845
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: or five of them. They were all shade head, fucking

846
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Ian Mackay looking dudes. Yes, soft spoken, diminutive like indie

847
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: pop guys. I just knew so many guys like him.

848
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: Todd Luiso as Dick is fucking inspired. Oh my god,

849
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: they picked that guy off the street and put him

850
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: in this movie.

851
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: Like to this day, I'm like, I don't know if

852
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: any movie has nailed an archetype as well. I mean,

853
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of like a pure character.

854
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, they fucking created this character, and he's the

855
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: most real motherfucker I think I've ever met in my life.

856
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Like I've just not known a movie to have done

857
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: that as well.

858
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh completely, And this is in the book, like the

859
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: Nick Hornby book, even though it's set in the UK

860
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: and they kind of have a different type of music

861
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: that they're obsessed with, Like in the book, I think

862
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: they're really obsessed with like the Blues and Wilson Pickett

863
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: and like you know, kind of but then it translates

864
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: so well to Chicago because of that archetype and because

865
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: of that dude and those dudes. It just translates so well,

866
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more.

867
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: Yes, And like that was to the credit of basically

868
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: John Cusack and his friends who were the writers of

869
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: the film. They were from Chicago, and they were when

870
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: I was reading the Oral History, they were extremely passionate

871
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 3: about getting it right. I mean, listen, if you're gonna

872
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: do a movie about music, stop, you gotta nail it.

873
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: You can't fucking be half asked about it right, no,

874
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: because you're gonna get raked over the coals. And you know,

875
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 3: and to me, this movie, it's kind of like Thief

876
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: when we talked about Michael Mann's Thief. I mean this movie,

877
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: Chicago is a huge part of this movie, and like

878
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: they filmed it there and they referenced like the biograph,

879
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: theater and lounge acts and then they also had like

880
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: the participation of like Drag City Records and like Steve

881
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: Albini from Shellac and Big Black, and so it's kind

882
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: of like all these Chicago people were involved and they

883
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: filmed it there and then it was just sort of

884
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: like at this moment in time in the late nineties

885
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: early two thousands where like indie rock was like a

886
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: huge thing and it was the music industry was more or.

887
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: Less still intact. Mapster was kind of right around the corner.

888
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: So it was like it was a huge scene.

889
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: And you know, for me, I like being twenty one

890
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: or twenty two years old, I mean, I was like,

891
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: I had very strong opinions about this music. I was

892
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: like incredibly judgmental about people who liked bad music.

893
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll never like anyone who likes shitty music.

894
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: This movie, though, like we talked about sort of already,

895
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of just like a gen X

896
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 3: movie through and through because of that, Because all these

897
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: characters in this film, I mean, they're smarter than you.

898
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: They hate posers, I mean pretty much. They believe that

899
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: selling out and making a lot of money is like

900
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: a high crime.

901
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that having a quote unquote like normy life,

902
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: like being married and like having kids and live in

903
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: the suburbs was probably like the worst thing you could

904
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: ever think of. And this is like the fuel of

905
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: these guys in this film, you.

906
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, And there's even there's a part and it's

907
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 2: evident all over the movie because there's a part where

908
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: you realize, like, oh, this record store is struggling, and

909
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: rob himself is caught in this loop of I do

910
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: want to still be able to do this, so I

911
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: do need customers, but I will not sell to certain

912
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: types of people, like he's very particular about who he

913
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: even comes into this store and buy shit. And then

914
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: there's another part of the film where they mentioned that

915
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: where Rob says that, you know, he's had this conversation

916
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: with Barry and Dick and they've decided that what you

917
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: like is more important than what you are like. And

918
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about that, and if you

919
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: think that's true, if you think the things that you

920
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: like pop culturally are more important than what you are

921
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: like as a person, well.

922
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: Look, I mean I think I think when we talked

923
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: about saying almost fire, I went real hard on the

924
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 3: concept of like this couple breaking up and fucking splitting

925
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: the records.

926
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: And just being like eye rolling.

927
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's been like really like you give a

928
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 3: fuck about a Billy Joel record or some shit. Like

929
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: there's a huge part of me that has grown out

930
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: of that completely, like to the point where I'm just like,

931
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 3: who fucking cares Like at this point, I'm like, honestly,

932
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: I just to just not be a Nazi that's all

933
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm asking.

934
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: This is how low the standards are.

935
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like, do I give a fuck that you

936
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: liked Stevie Wonders. I just called to say I love you.

937
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: By the way, that part of the film, which is

938
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: like a very like, you know, it's like one of

939
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: the moments that a lot of people remember.

940
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: You know.

941
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: It's basically some square guy going into the record store

942
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: and buying this record for his daughter, and they were

943
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: like fucking him, yeah, because they're like, what, accordy, I

944
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: can't believe Stevie Wonder made such a shitty song. And

945
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, the critical opinion of that song, I

946
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 3: feel like that's changed, Like in twenty twenty two, that song,

947
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: to me is kind of a bop and I don't

948
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: think of that as being such a crime anymore, that

949
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder made like a pop song or whatever like that.

950
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: But at the time those people were like, no, fuck

951
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: him for making that stupid ass song.

952
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Did you know, imagine a world if you were not

953
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: live in the nineties, or if you have no experience,

954
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: just imagine a world where anyone could shit on Stevie

955
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: Wonder for any reason.

956
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: You know, and like listen, we're gonna get into I'm

957
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: gonna go through the beats of the film a little

958
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: bit just to kind of orient you if you haven't

959
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: seen this film, because I do think it's it's it's

960
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: got a lot of different working parts, and yeah, you know,

961
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: we're obviously talking about the major one, which is that

962
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: it's about music snob culture, right, but then there's also

963
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: this like romance that's tucked into it, which we will

964
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 3: get into.

965
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: In just a moment.

966
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: But listen, if you haven't seen this movie. Cuzach plays

967
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: this character named Rob Gordon, and just as Danielle alluded to,

968
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: he's this grumpy, chain smoke in record store owner.

969
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, probably it is like mid to late thirties.

970
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: I can't I don't even know if he ever mentions

971
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: his age, but the movie is from his point of view,

972
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 3: and he addresses the camera directly, okay, and Rob says

973
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: that he's just been dumped by his girlfriend, Laura, who

974
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: is played by this really great Danish actress. Her name

975
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: is Eben yele H.

976
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: I looked that up.

977
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: I sign it okay, good, good good, because I was like,

978
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: we might need to call your friend and get her

979
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 3: to help. But uh she So Laura is basically this

980
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: ex alternative girl who is now a lawyer for some

981
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: like corporate firm.

982
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: And right off the bat, you're like, Okay, here we go.

983
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: Here's this underachieving, broke, noncommittal, grouchy manchild and his beautiful, smart,

984
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: patient lawyer girlfriend. Okay, we have seen this so many

985
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: times before. And you know, she's broken up with him

986
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: essentially because he's a manchild and she wants more out

987
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 3: of life. Right, So, in his melancholy and his anguish,

988
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: he decides that he's going to come up with list

989
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: of like the top five worst breakups of his life.

990
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: And the top five thing is like a running thing

991
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 3: in the movie. You know, obviously it's a part of

992
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: kind of what record store guys do is come up

993
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 3: with top five lists of things, and so it comes

994
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 3: up a lot.

995
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: And so.

996
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: And this is just like the movie Old Boyfriends, like

997
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: we discussed like on the very first Baby Girl, what

998
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: does you do? In episode?

999
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: Because Rob decides that he's gonna go on this quest

1000
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: to like meet up with these women on his list

1001
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: and find out why they dumped him. Okay, and in

1002
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: between this, Rob is basically sulkin around town and then

1003
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 3: he he's managing his two employees of this record store

1004
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: that he owns. There's Dick played by Todd Luisa and

1005
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: then Barry who's played by Jack Black, and they they're my.

1006
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: Favorite characters in the movie.

1007
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: We just talked about it, like, they're very relatable, very relatable,

1008
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: and they're just complete polar opposites, and so watching them

1009
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: interact is fucking fun as shit, right, Absolutely.

1010
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: My other favorite character is Liz, who is like Robin

1011
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Laura's friend. She's kind of like a third party observer

1012
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: in this breakup. And she's played by John Cusack, who's

1013
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: obviously John Cusack's sister, And it's.

1014
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 3: So cool to see them act together, by the way,

1015
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: and I love, always love it. Yes, we've talked about

1016
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: her many times in the podcast.

1017
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: She's a hero. She's a hero to us.

1018
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: We gotta get her on we gotta get Joe Cusack

1019
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: on this, she do podcasts. Oh my god, we love her.

1020
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: We love her so much.

1021
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: And in this film especially, it's like, you either need

1022
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: a friend like Liz, or you have to be a

1023
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: friend like Liz, Like those are your aspirational points.

1024
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: Yes, when she's yelling at him for being a Dick.

1025
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: It's such a joy. I'm just like I could listen

1026
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: to her scream at him forever.

1027
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: She's so great and he's awesome, so and like, through

1028
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: the course of the film, you know, Rob is like

1029
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: meeting up with these old girlfriends and they're people like

1030
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: Catherine Zita Jones and Lily Taylor and Joel Carter who,

1031
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: by the way, Eva Crowder for Justified fans, right, And

1032
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: there's like a ton of great cameos in the film.

1033
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: As you mentioned before, Tim Robbins is in this movie,

1034
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 3: and he plays the dreaded Ian who is this like

1035
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: weird new age guy that Laura starts to date after

1036
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: they break up. And he's such a stupid idiot.

1037
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: I fucking love him. He's such a fucking frick.

1038
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: I mean, just like the ponytail and the rings and everything,

1039
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 3: and he's just like he's into conflict resolution.

1040
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: He's just so dumb and awesome and funny. And also

1041
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about this because I need to know

1042
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: your opinion on this character. But Lisa Bonet makes a

1043
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: cameo in this film.

1044
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 3: Okay, and she's playing this like say, songwriter named Marie

1045
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: La sal And Rob ends up having this like one

1046
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: night stand with her?

1047
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Okay, And I have always had thoughts about this character.

1048
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay.

1049
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: I think now in like, at this moment in time,

1050
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 3: I feel like I understand it a little more. But

1051
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: back when I watched this movie, I was like, no

1052
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: fucking way this is happening. I was like on both sides,

1053
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: like she would not sleep with him and he would

1054
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: not sleep with her.

1055
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: And they addressed it in the film where he's like,

1056
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: how does a guy like me become like the number

1057
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: one lover man in his postal code? And that this

1058
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: scene now in present day rocks me to my core

1059
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: a little bit because there's a point where they are

1060
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: they meet at a bar and they've met before, like

1061
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: at her show, and that scene is hilarious in its

1062
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: own right because Rob's like, why did you tell her

1063
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: about the record store? And Barry's like, oh, I didn't know.

1064
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: It was like a secret that's like so indicative of

1065
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: who this guy is, where it's like he has a

1066
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: record store, he's talking to a musician, and he's so

1067
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: afraid of selling out that he does not want anyone

1068
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: to even know that. Yeah, but they have this connective

1069
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: night where they're all at the bar and talking, and

1070
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: this is where that whole conversation of what you like

1071
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: is more important than what you are like comes into play.

1072
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: But right before he mentions that they had sex, he says,

1073
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: and you see him talking to her and he says,

1074
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: I invented a sketch of a decent, sensitive guy because

1075
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: I was in the position to do so. And it

1076
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 2: rocks me to my fucking core.

1077
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is dark as fuck. Like when I

1078
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: watched it again, I was like, wow, dude, like what

1079
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: a psycho.

1080
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's how this fucking happens because of course

1081
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: everyone's throwing Boner's over Marita sal She's Lisa Bonet, Like

1082
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: that makes total sense, and that whole like you know

1083
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: that that kind of hippie rock like Peter Frampton cover

1084
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: was such a nineties thing. Yes, so it makes total

1085
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: sense that like she would be rock in their world.

1086
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 2: But I in this scene now I see it more

1087
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: as it makes sense to me that like, these are

1088
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: just two broken hearted people who are looking to connect,

1089
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: right Yeah, And at.

1090
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: The time I remember thinking is the music snob activated

1091
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: in me? Where I thought, first of all, she is

1092
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: too beautiful to sleep with.

1093
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: This schlub.

1094
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: I truly thought that. I was like, there's no way

1095
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: she's going for this fucking grump. She's like this ethereal beauty.

1096
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: There's no way.

1097
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: But then lying about who he was the whole time, right.

1098
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: But then that he though, Okay, So here's the thing.

1099
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: This is the benefit of reading on Oral History. I'm

1100
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: just saying.

1101
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: So I was reading in the Oral History that apparently

1102
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: this role was the hardest to cast for the movie

1103
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: because they couldn't find the right person to play it.

1104
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: It took a long time because the character I think

1105
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: was supposed to have been like this jewel type.

1106
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: Like she was like a singer songwriter.

1107
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: Uh and maybe you know, she's supposed to be kind

1108
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: of like not a type of a woman that these

1109
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: guys come across often and like or even like right,

1110
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: because she is supposed to have been like a little

1111
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: corny or something, do you know what I'm saying?

1112
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: Right, like in that way.

1113
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is is that in in the

1114
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: Oral History they mention and at one point they actually

1115
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: almost got Liz Fair to play, which for me would

1116
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: have been fucking amazing to see her in this movie

1117
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: just because she's from Chicago. And she's so fucking awesome

1118
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: and part of this whole indie rock scene this time.

1119
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: But I think that from what I read, they were

1120
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 3: saying that, like it just would have been off because

1121
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: she's almost like too cool. Because this character is supposed

1122
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: to be a woman that they don't know very well

1123
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 3: but are also enchanted by, and that he's supposed to

1124
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: just have a fling with someone, right, And I'm thinking,

1125
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: if you put Liz Fair in there, she's so cool

1126
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: and so hot that he just like falls in love

1127
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: with her and forgets Laura and the movie's over, you

1128
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: know what I.

1129
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: Mean exactly, And the only reason it doesn't happen with

1130
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: Lisa Bonnet I think with this Marita Salle character is

1131
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: that she is two hands off. She is too much

1132
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: like now, this ain't happening.

1133
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent.

1134
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 3: I feel like he is just the type of guy.

1135
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: I mean, look at his past girlfriends. Right, you think

1136
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: about the Catherine Zeta Jones character, He's been known to

1137
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: follow the rabbit that's just so different from him and

1138
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: just better than him and more, I don't know, like

1139
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: he he His whole thing with the Catherine Zita Jones

1140
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: character was that she's just like this magnanimous, like you know,

1141
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: social creature, and she's like so different from him, and

1142
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: that's kind of like what I think what happened for

1143
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: him was that if she hadn't said to him, hey,

1144
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: we're just fucking here, no ties, he would have probably

1145
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: got sprung and chased her around.

1146
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: Town, right. Absolutely, And this role was so hard for

1147
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: them to cast because I was too young, and also

1148
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm not an actor and nobody knows who I was.

1149
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: You would have taken him to your loft and you

1150
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: had to really like put both hands on that high

1151
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: ass and been.

1152
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: Like like, oh, we're having actual sex. Nobody told you

1153
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna have actual sex in this scene. Very unprofessional,

1154
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: but that's what's happening.

1155
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: God, no intimacy coordinator meeting, just leave us alone.

1156
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: An actual lawsuit will be pending after this because of

1157
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: what I'm about to do.

1158
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: Well, So, anyway, I had very complicated thoughts about the

1159
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 3: Lisa b an A character still, But anyway.

1160
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: At the time, it felt I needed an opinion on it.

1161
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying. I hadn't have an

1162
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: opinion on.

1163
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: It well, because it comes out of nowhere, and I

1164
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: think that's kind of the feeling they were going for,

1165
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: is that, like, these snobs never expected to be enchanted

1166
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: by a woman who sings Peter Frampton covers, right, And

1167
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: so that does come out of nowhere in a way

1168
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: that feels right and good and true. But it's also

1169
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: it was kind of like the first time we've seen

1170
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: Lisa Bonet in a while.

1171
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh, that that was the huge thing for me. It

1172
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: was and I was just like, holy shit, like she's back,

1173
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: she looks incredible. Why is she with this?

1174
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: Right?

1175
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: Like you need to go to Lenny Kravitz's house, Like

1176
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: why are you messing around this guy?

1177
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: You need to let love rule. Get the fuck out

1178
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: of there. Oh my god.

1179
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: Exactly.

1180
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, and like, listen, I mean, despite this film being

1181
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: about like these like little nuances, right, this movie is

1182
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: ultimately about this relationship between Rob and Laura. And like

1183
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you right now, Wow, I'm twenty two

1184
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: years older watching this film now, I'm actually very depressed.

1185
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: But yeahshit, thank you.

1186
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: Like this is gonna be a spoiler, okay, and so

1187
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: if you don't want to know, fast forward a few

1188
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: seconds spit.

1189
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: Listen. They eventually get back together and it all just

1190
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: feels very bleak to me.

1191
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is where the bare minimum romance comes

1192
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: in for Mabe and two crucial points, one being Laura's

1193
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: dad dies and after the funeral, she asks Rob to

1194
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: have sex with her just so she can feel something else,

1195
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: and then she says to him, I'm too tired to

1196
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: not be with you anymore. Yes, that is bleak shit,

1197
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: where she's like, I'm just exhaust emotionally exhausted and wrung

1198
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: out because she's also been moving out of this apartment

1199
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: in like excruciating increments, yeah, which keeps her in the

1200
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: story but also just drives me crazy. Yeah, I mean,

1201
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: and so it's like bare minimum where she's like, I'm

1202
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: literally too tired to fight being with you, and then

1203
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: he later proposes to her in the same vein where

1204
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: he's like, I feel like it's the right thing to do,

1205
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I just feel like I

1206
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: like being with you more than I like being with

1207
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: other people.

1208
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: And obviously being alone is not an option.

1209
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, that is crazy to me too, which is

1210
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: like another thing that darks me out about this movie

1211
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: is that she's just like, man, I'm just really tired.

1212
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just gonna go back to this boyfriend

1213
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: that I fucking don't even like half the time, and

1214
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: he did all this terrible shit to me.

1215
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god. That scene is again Joan Cuzak, the

1216
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: goat that scene where Laura is running down, like, here's

1217
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: all the terrible things Rob did to me, And this

1218
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: is coming from his perspective where he finally realizes that

1219
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: he is an asshole. Right, he sleeps with somebody else

1220
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: while she's pregnant, which causes her to get an abortion.

1221
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: Then he borrows four thousand bucks from her, and then

1222
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: he tells her he's kind of sort of looking like

1223
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: for somebody else because their relationship is stale.

1224
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: Yes, and guess what, they don't address any of that

1225
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: shit after they get back together.

1226
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 3: They got real issues and they're just like, I guess

1227
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: we're just bored and tired of trying to not to

1228
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: be together, so let's just be together.

1229
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: And it's so depressing.

1230
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of like what I said an

1231
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 3: intro to the theme is that like it's a very

1232
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: me kind of thing for them to get back together.

1233
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know if that's because

1234
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: it's realer that way or if it's I mean, because

1235
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: obviously this movie is patently gen X And I'm thinking,

1236
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: is this because of the kind of wants and desires

1237
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: of our generation where we just like we're simply too

1238
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: tired to not advocate for.

1239
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: Ourselves or something like what right are we talking about?

1240
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: We're so exhausted by the world. Also, this is a

1241
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: movie that was written by four men, and I think

1242
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: they did a good job of like digging into this

1243
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: insecure male archetype. Like they really did a good job

1244
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: of that across the characters. And I think they did

1245
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: an okay job with the women too. Yeah, like they

1246
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: didn't feel unreal to me in any way. But I

1247
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: think that resignation is a very male thing where it's like,

1248
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: I guess you'll do. I'm not out here looking for

1249
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: like the love of my life. I'm looking for someone

1250
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: I can tolerate. And that is some bleak fucking shit.

1251
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 3: Right And listen, I mean, so she effectively getting back

1252
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 3: together with him, effectively.

1253
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: She's settling for lesson what she wants, which BOMs me

1254
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: the fuck out. And guess what.

1255
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 3: In his momentum for the you know, the reunion or whatever,

1256
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 3: Like he doesn't really make any huge changes to who

1257
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: he is. I mean, it is gracious to say that

1258
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: he might have wised up slightly because he didn't cheat

1259
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 3: on her. Again with Natasha Gretsen Wagner, I'm like, okay, yep,

1260
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: bare minimum shit.

1261
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: That is his growth and this is on the heels

1262
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: of she continues to drag him through life. She put

1263
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: together this whole show where he gets to be a

1264
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: DJ again because that's when she knew. She saw him

1265
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: as the happiest point of his life. So she brings

1266
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 2: him back to this point where he can do his

1267
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: thing and be happy, and he decides to put out

1268
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: this record with these two criminals, these two skateboard criminals,

1269
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: which is the most hilarious part of the fucking movie.

1270
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: The Kinky Wizards is another Kinky Wizards.

1271
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: I saw my Mom's wheelchair is the name of their EP.

1272
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: And he's so but she is still dragging him through life,

1273
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: and the concession is, I'm gonna drag you through life.

1274
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna maybe not cheat on me, And that's the

1275
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 2: growth point that we've reached, can't.

1276
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like to me and I listen,

1277
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 3: I am trying really hard to like see this scenario

1278
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: in the two thousands way, because let's get serious that

1279
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 3: the early two thousands were dark as fuck for gender roles.

1280
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 1: Okay, like across the board.

1281
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 3: But it's just this idea of like there is no

1282
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 3: kind of like growth or true growth moment. They're just

1283
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: back together because they don't know what else to do, okay,

1284
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: and it's a bare minimum romance. I mean, they're essentially

1285
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 3: what they're saying is we're cute, we like records, and

1286
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 3: hopefully this will be the thing that sustains us until

1287
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 3: we die.

1288
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1289
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, wow, that is not much. That

1290
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: is not much.

1291
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: And again, at a counterpoint, just because they do like

1292
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: this movie, and I do come back to it again

1293
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: and again. Sure, and I see different things in it

1294
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: as I grow an age, as we have discussed intensely

1295
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: on this show, of course, and I think that there

1296
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: is a moment where Rob is talking about the top

1297
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: five things he misses about Laura, and you get a

1298
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: little peek into his humanity in that moment that like, oh,

1299
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: he does consider her as a person beyond the boundaries

1300
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: of like, we both like records and dancing, and this

1301
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: will be enough to sustain us. But he never expresses

1302
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: it to her.

1303
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't even simply say you put up with

1304
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: my shit? Yeah you know it's like, oh, you've.

1305
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: Got grace and you're funny and you rub your feet

1306
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: together in bed, But what about like and you put

1307
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 3: up with my shit?

1308
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, I know that I'm not like the most.

1309
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: Polished dude ever, and you know I've got like stupid

1310
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: opinions about records, And thank you for like being understanding

1311
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 3: about that and just being like, you know, I don't know,

1312
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: like you try to.

1313
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,879
Speaker 1: Make me my best and is wonderful.

1314
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: Like there's just not even that moment where like, yes,

1315
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: you know, but listen, we're just dissecting this component of

1316
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 3: the film. For me, it doesn't take away from my

1317
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 3: enjoyment of this film. Like I have seen this movie

1318
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: so many fucking times, and like I said, you know,

1319
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 3: despite this like part of the movie about the relationship,

1320
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 3: like the rest of the movie is so like it

1321
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: it made me remember like when I watched it again,

1322
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: I was like, nostalgia is.

1323
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: Just flooding back, like flooding.

1324
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: It made me miss record stores, which I feel like

1325
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 3: that shit's kind of out the window these days, and

1326
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 3: like it's like this whole other time where you know, I,

1327
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 3: you know, you could meet people in this like third space,

1328
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 3: Like there were people hanging out at record stores, you know,

1329
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 3: shooting the shit and having opinions, and that was like

1330
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 3: the core of how I grew up and how I

1331
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 3: learned about anything is watching other people talk about movies

1332
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 3: and music in places like record stores and video stores.

1333
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: So I just I just maybe missed that whole era

1334
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 1: so much completely.

1335
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: It was such such a nostalgia trip for me in

1336
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: a great way. And also, yeah, I just I really

1337
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate that I grew up in that time where

1338
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: it was culturally expected and okay in these circles for

1339
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: you to be a little more insular, to be a

1340
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: little more introspective, and to kind of take the time

1341
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: to develop a personality and develop who you are as

1342
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: a human being outside of you know, kind of develop

1343
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: who you are as a human being and then go

1344
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 2: try to find your people instead of what I see

1345
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: now is kind of the other way around, which is

1346
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: like I will make my personality fit into any and

1347
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: all social situations because you know, rather do that than

1348
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: spend a minute with myself.

1349
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's so true.

1350
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: But hey, also like it was great to fucking chop

1351
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: it up about the bare minimum romance of these two

1352
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: gen X folks. If you want, if you haven't seen

1353
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: the movie in a long time and you watch it,

1354
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 3: I would love to hear opinions about it, if.

1355
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: You want to email us.

1356
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, I uh this for me. Was it like

1357
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 3: when you brought up the theme, I was like, yep,

1358
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: this is the real watch and so.

1359
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: And it's such a great conceit too, like this notion

1360
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: of going because we've all done it in some way,

1361
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: like going back over your old relationships to you know,

1362
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: to kind of see how, you know, kind of just

1363
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: to make some connective tissue between like the present and

1364
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: the past, and yeah, kind of it just it makes sense,

1365
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: Like I like the conceit of this movie. Yeah, but

1366
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a real motherfuck to watch all

1367
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: these different decades of my life now and now that

1368
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm dead and just seeing like I don't know if

1369
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: this is good. Like they're just so resigned to being

1370
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: together and they you know, they try to bring it

1371
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: back to this place of love and expansion, but I'm

1372
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: not sure if they ever get there. And I don't

1373
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: know if it's because I'm again dead inside or because

1374
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: that's just the way that this film has has presented

1375
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: itself as bare minimum romance. Yeah.

1376
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, and good to know that there's another person on

1377
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: the Destroyed Dick list.

1378
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: Like it's a small list. It's a small list, and

1379
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: it's a surprising list. It's a surprising list. Every entry

1380
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: will be stranger than the last. No one is out

1381
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: here in twenty twenty two saying anything about destroying John

1382
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: cusax Dick, I will take that for you.

1383
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: We salute your girlways salute you.

1384
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,440
Speaker 2: He might be your dream guy. He's truly a cantankerous

1385
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: old fuck who watches baseball and yells at politicians like

1386
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: he might be your dream dude.

1387
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't say he wouldn't be. I'm just

1388
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very aware of how enticing all of those

1389
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: things are.

1390
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: And I say, cantankerous old fuck with the highest estimation. Yes,

1391
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: that is what I aspire to. If I'm not yelling

1392
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: at someone outside of my house and waving a cane

1393
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: in twenty years, I've done something wrong.

1394
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. One hundred percent.

1395
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 2: Well, my movie.

1396
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: Look, I'm rubbing my hands together I.

1397
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: Go so I could go another four hours on this movie.

1398
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to keep it tight and focus on

1399
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: the bare minimum romance of it. Because my film, the

1400
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 2: screenplay for my film was by Nora Ephron, was directed

1401
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 2: by Rob Reiner. It was released in nineteen eighty nine.

1402
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 2: My movie is when Harry met Sally. Men and women

1403
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: can't be friends because no man can be friends with

1404
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to

1405
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: have sex with him. So you're saying that a man

1406
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive, No,

1407
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 2: you pretty much want to know them too. Now, when

1408
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: I say this movie has had people on a fucking

1409
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: headlock for time, immemoriam, I am not kidding. This is

1410
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: on so many people's top ten list, top five lists,

1411
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,440
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of that can be attributed

1412
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: to the fact that Nora Efron is a brilliant writer.

1413
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: Like this movie. No matter how many times I see

1414
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: it or how I feel about it, ultimately it is

1415
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: one of the most well written movies and screenplays you'll

1416
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: ever come across. It is fresh and unique and interesting.

1417
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: The basics of this film and I tried really hard

1418
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: to go over a one sentence synopsis. This might be

1419
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: an episode where neither one of us have one for

1420
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: our film.

1421
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 1: Woo. That's because it's so meaty. They're both so meaty

1422
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: that we can't condense it right.

1423
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: This is a first. I mean I think that because

1424
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: and also my movie it transcends so many points of time.

1425
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: So I tried, and I don't think I got there

1426
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: in the end. But the basic concept of this movie

1427
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: is that Harry and Sally Harry Burns and Sally Albright

1428
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: played by Billy Crystial and Meg Ryan meet in college

1429
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: as they are both moving to New York and they

1430
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: have signed up for this kind of ride share thing

1431
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: that her her friend put them together. Her friend is

1432
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,799
Speaker 2: dating Harry, and it is like, Hey, my friend Sally's

1433
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: drive into New York to move there. You should go

1434
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: with her. So they take this sixteen hour trip from

1435
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: Chicago to New York, and the bare bones of this

1436
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 2: film are set up during this road trip. And it

1437
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: is a couple of things. One, they are both highly

1438
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: annoying people in very different ways, Sally's these are absolutely

1439
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: insufferable fucking people. And that was in immediately evident to

1440
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: me when I first watched the film, it has only

1441
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: grown in intensity over time. These are insufferable fucking people.

1442
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, You're absolutely right about that.

1443
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: Sally is insufferable because she is the pickiest person I've

1444
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: ever seen on screen. But again, it's done so well

1445
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: and written so well that it's so believable. And Harry

1446
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: is just He's one of these dudes who has developed

1447
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: a definitive position about life by the time he was

1448
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: twenty years old, and I cannot stand it. So this

1449
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 2: road trip is basically him saying to Sally the crux

1450
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: of what becomes the crux of the film, which is

1451
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: that men and women cannot simply be friends. And when

1452
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: I tell you that an entire generation of fucking people

1453
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: based their romantic lives around that concept, I am not kidding.

1454
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,520
Speaker 2: I think that is the reason that divorce rates skyrocketed

1455
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: during the eighties and nineties, because people saw this and

1456
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: it had never occurred to them that could even be

1457
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 2: a theoretical concept that they can apply to their own lives.

1458
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,959
Speaker 2: But he has this, to me, what is a bullshit

1459
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: statement about men and women being unable to be friends

1460
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 2: that becomes the cornerstone of their relationship And what I

1461
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: love about the movies, is you're following them, is they

1462
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: kind of jump through time and they don't get along

1463
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: during this road trip. They get to New York, they

1464
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 2: shake hands, they kind of go their separate ways and

1465
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 2: don't see each other for another five years. And then

1466
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: when they do finally catch up, it's like, you know,

1467
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: Sally hated him and was like, thank god, he didn't

1468
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 2: recognize me. Then they're on the same plane together and

1469
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 2: he does recognize her because of her picky ordering of

1470
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 2: a bloody Mary. And so they have this kind of

1471
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: back and forth where they're we're following them separately for

1472
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: the first part of the movie, and Harry is he's

1473
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: going to get married to this woman named Helen played

1474
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: by Harley Jane Kozak, and he's, you know, kind of

1475
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 2: planning that's his life. He's going to get married. He's

1476
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: a political strategist or something like that. And Sally is

1477
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 2: in this long term relationship with this guy named Joe.

1478
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: So when we finally reconnect with them, like five years later,

1479
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: Sally and Joe have broken up. She and her friends

1480
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: are sitting around at lunch table talking. It is one

1481
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: of the funniest scenes. Carrie Fisher plays Marie, one of

1482
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: her best friends, and she pops out a fucking roll

1483
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: AdEx on the table and is like, here are some

1484
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: guys you could date. It is absolutely hilarious. And she's

1485
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: at her own mess where she's like, I am dating

1486
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: a married man who's never going to leave his wife.

1487
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: I know that, and yet I'm still doing it. So

1488
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of hilarious to watch these women kind of

1489
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: talking about how hard dating in New York is and

1490
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,839
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And then Harry and Sally do become friends,

1491
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: like get they meet it up party and they kind of,

1492
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 2: you know, they hang out, and he kind of backs

1493
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: off on his statement a little bit because he's grown

1494
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: up a little bit, particularly now that he's divorced, and

1495
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: has backed off a little bit on the men and

1496
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: women can't be friends idea, so they are friends. You

1497
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: see him kind of bopping around New York and doing

1498
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: insane things together, like buying real Christmas trees. I'm sorry,

1499
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: but if you buy a real Christmas tree and you

1500
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: live in New York City, that is like step one

1501
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: sociopathy to me, Like you had to give up that

1502
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: fucking Iowa dream and realize that you live in a

1503
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: rat infested shithole island that cannot sustain your holiday memories.

1504
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: Give it up.

1505
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 3: I was like, they got her out here carrying her

1506
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: own damn Christmas tree in that like velvet hat or whatever,

1507
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I can't even imagine this. I'm like,

1508
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't imagine dragging a live Christmas tree

1509
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: through the streets of New York up three or four

1510
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 3: flights of stairs to my walk up.

1511
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: I just was like, and then taking care of it,

1512
01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: let the dream die.

1513
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: You gotta water that shit. Every and all you're doing

1514
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: is putting out a bowl of water for the rats

1515
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: that are gonna crawl up through your fucking radiator. Give

1516
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 2: it the fuck up. You go home to Iowa or

1517
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,480
Speaker 2: be in New York in a realistic way during the holidays.

1518
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: You cannot have both. In my eyes, the two should

1519
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: never meet there. I heard doing just wild. But they're

1520
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: hanging out together and they're talking. They talk so much,

1521
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: and it's like in that broadcast news way where they

1522
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: talk on the phone at night and they share a

1523
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: lot and they open up a lot. And then she

1524
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: has been really okay with this Joe breakup, which is

1525
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: astonishing to Harry because he's like ruined by his divorce.

1526
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 2: And then one night, Joe calls and tells Sally that

1527
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: he's getting married, and she has a complete fucking breakdown, which,

1528
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: first and foremost, what kind of a psychopath calls your

1529
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: ex simply to tell them you're getting married? Yeah, like,

1530
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: move it along. That was a weird move, that along.

1531
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you don't have Facebook to fight

1532
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: out this shit back to these days.

1533
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I also don't need a phone call.

1534
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 3: You can just continue to live your life separate from me.

1535
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: I might run into you in ten years and have

1536
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: assumed that you've gotten married to someone, but I don't

1537
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: need the constant and immediate update. We can just keep

1538
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: this going. So she calls Harry. He comes over to

1539
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: support her, and they end up sleeping together, and in

1540
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: that very eighties way, as soon as they have sex,

1541
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Harry freaks the fuck out and becomes very cold and

1542
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 2: closed off and goes back to his bullshit level of

1543
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: thinking about how men and women can't be friends. And

1544
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: this is all done by the way to the soundtrack

1545
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: of Harry Connick Junior, who if this movie had people

1546
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: on a headlock Harry Connick Junior had people on a

1547
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: goddamn choke hold.

1548
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Listen Guilty as charged. I was fuck My sister and

1549
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: I were obsessed with Harry Conic Junior, Like I don't

1550
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 1: know what happened in like the early nineties, late eighties,

1551
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: early nineties where Harry Knick Junior was out here in

1552
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: a major way.

1553
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 3: There was that album We Are in Love. I think

1554
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: we listen to that tape like every fucking day, And

1555
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, why are like two little kids bopping around

1556
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 3: their parents Ford Arrow Star making their mom put in

1557
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 3: the fucking Harry Knic Junior tape listening too like the

1558
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: Greatest American songbook Bullshit?

1559
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? Like, this is madness, this is.

1560
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: What the world was like. And trust me, knowing you

1561
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 2: as I do, it is not at all surprising to

1562
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: me that you love some middle age god music to

1563
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: go with the soundtrack to create the soundtrack of you

1564
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: also wanting to be Melanie Griffith and working girl. Not

1565
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 2: at all surprising. You're like, let me put on some

1566
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: blue light, red light.

1567
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: Snorted again, let me chop this up.

1568
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: Somebody did a chopped and screwed remix of Harry Connic Junior,

1569
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: you'd be all over it. I, on the other hand,

1570
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: have complete PTSD when I hear his voice because it

1571
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: played in the restaurant that I worked in all throughout

1572
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: my teens. I worked in this real, like weird, high

1573
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: end sort of restaurant in town that like sold pine

1574
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: nuts by the pants. The first time I ever figured

1575
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: out what a fucking pig nope pioli nut was, and

1576
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: I had to cut gray air cheese with one of

1577
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: those fucking knives where you had to seesaw on it

1578
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: and put your full weight on it and balance it,

1579
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 2: and fucking people would get all pissed off about the

1580
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: chicken pikata because I didn't put enough sauce on it.

1581
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 2: I have absolute PTSD because the soundtrack to that point

1582
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: in my life was Harry Connick Junior's album twenty Yes,

1583
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: and I think that's the one where he does he

1584
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: does a lot of Fats Wallers Waller covers, like I

1585
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: think he did the not the only Oyster in the

1586
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: stew on that one or something the fucking stars fell

1587
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: on Alabama, Like if fucking if I only had a brain,

1588
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: absolute PTSD, like I shut down and I instantly start

1589
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 2: looking for like, did I do all my closing up duties? Wait,

1590
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 2: I'm in my own house and it's twenty years later.

1591
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, these folks don't know like y'all think that Michael

1592
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 3: booble A was out here.

1593
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: M Harry Connick Junior was everywhere.

1594
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: Harry Connick Junior walks, So Michael Bublea could fucking fly.

1595
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 2: Harry Knick Junior was out here, Like, let me bring

1596
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 2: this old Hogy Carmichael song back to life. Let me

1597
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: suck some George Gershwin, Ira Gershwin cock.

1598
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: Ha not Hogy Carmichael. You did not just invoke Oh

1599
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: my god.

1600
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 2: When I hear do Nothing Till you hear from Me,

1601
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 2: which is a great Duke Ellington song. When I hear

1602
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: it in his voice, I want to crawl under my bed,

1603
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: like I just it is a terror that I will

1604
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: never recover from. I heard that album NonStop for fucking years,

1605
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and this soundtrack launched him into the

1606
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: public consciousness like it. There would be no Little Man

1607
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 2: Tate without hair, without Harriet at Sally, And it was

1608
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: a soundtrack to this level of bare minimum romance. That's

1609
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,480
Speaker 2: what I think of when I think of this fucking movie.

1610
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: Yes, and it was like also this like soundtrack to this, Like.

1611
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 3: For me as watching this as a young person at

1612
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 3: this time, it was like this New York intellectual set,

1613
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, which is part of the

1614
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 3: appeal to me for the movie even to this day,

1615
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 3: is like, Oh, here are people who order salads at

1616
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 3: dinner and they write for New York magazine and you know,

1617
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: they have glasses on a chain that they remove and

1618
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 3: put on, and like they listen to fucking like jazz

1619
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 3: standards or whatever.

1620
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like they hang out in the self help

1621
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 2: selection of the fucking bookstore. Yeah. Trauma, trauma. So after

1622
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,879
Speaker 2: Harry and Sally sleep together, she's pissed because he's changed

1623
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: and he's you know, not able to deal with it,

1624
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm I'm fine with it. This makes

1625
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: sense to me that we're together, and he's like, it

1626
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me, So I'm gonna be a

1627
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: real dick. And he's a dick for like a solid year,

1628
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: like a solid year. He's a complete asshole. And then

1629
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: he tries to call and apologize and she won't have it.

1630
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: The bare minimum romance comes in for me in two

1631
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: key ways. One Throughout the film, we're looking at these

1632
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 2: vignettes of couples and how they've gotten together, and some

1633
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: of them are goddamn hilarious. Yeah, my favorite one might

1634
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 2: be that couple who's like, we got married and then

1635
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 2: for thirty five years he went off, we got married,

1636
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 2: we got divorced, and then he went and married like

1637
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: five other women, and then we got back to Like,

1638
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 2: it is hilarious and heartfelt and wonderful to hear some

1639
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: of these stories, and you realize, of course, that the

1640
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: reason they're doing that is because that is the premise

1641
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: of this movie, is that we're watching people who are

1642
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: developing the story of how they end up together. And

1643
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 2: the way that they get together in the end, which

1644
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: spoiler alert they do, is that he basically pesters her

1645
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 2: for a year about how sorry he is, and then

1646
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: they're at a party and he's like, well, I really

1647
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: love you and I feel like we should be together,

1648
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: and she's like, okay, yep, and that's fucking it. And

1649
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: then they are sitting on the couch telling their own

1650
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 2: love story. And the love story is basically like, she's

1651
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: a true pain in the ass who orders food and

1652
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: the weirdest and most extravagant way you can possibly think of.

1653
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: She annoyed the fuck out of me for the first

1654
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: few years I even knew she existed. Then we had

1655
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: said and then we were just like, Okay, dating in

1656
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: New York is hard. I guess you're fine. Yeah, it

1657
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 2: is bare minimum. Now I know that some people might

1658
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 2: be out there thinking it's not bare minimum romance because

1659
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: he tried for a year to get back in her

1660
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: good graces, not to date her. He wanted his friend

1661
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: back because he finally realized that men and women could

1662
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 2: be friends. And the way to get this is again

1663
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 2: my own opinion, but I think the way he got

1664
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: her back into his life as a friend was to

1665
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 2: be like, oh, also, we can fuck sometimes. It's fine,

1666
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Like we can be together because I enjoy your friendship

1667
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 2: so much and I don't know how to be friends

1668
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: with a woman that I'm not fucking.

1669
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh.

1670
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 2: And we don't even have time to discuss the fact

1671
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 2: that Billy Crystal was a sex symbol. That is something

1672
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 2: that has to be discussed in therapy.

1673
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 3: I thought about this several times over the years, because

1674
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Billy Crystal was like, you know,

1675
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 3: he was part of our generation. I mean it's like

1676
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 3: fucking running scared, like that movie l was. I watched

1677
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 3: that movie probably like thirty thousand times as a child.

1678
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,839
Speaker 2: I mean he was just bride like completely city slickers.

1679
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean he was like the comedy ideal in our childhood.

1680
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: Right.

1681
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: They would never let that happen today. Today, that would

1682
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: not happen. That's conserious.

1683
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Never. Today it's Channing Tatum and whatever nineteen year old

1684
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: is hot right now, Well, they would never.

1685
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 1: Well, and that's because now hot people are trying to

1686
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: be funny.

1687
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, this is where

1688
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 2: we get fucked up again and again. Hot people are

1689
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: trying to be funny. Musicians are trying to be comedians,

1690
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 2: like stay in your gatsam Lane.

1691
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 3: Look, this is very high fidelity opinions we're having right now.

1692
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 3: But I gotta tell you, like in those days, in

1693
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 3: the Harry met Sally days, like you were a comedian

1694
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 3: and if you were ugly, you just you were shoehorned

1695
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 3: into the rom com That's how it worked. Whereas now

1696
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 3: if you're asworth, you're also a romantic. You're a romantic

1697
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 3: lead for being hot, but also because you're you're funny too,

1698
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: or try to be funny, and.

1699
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is weird.

1700
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 2: This is weird exactly, And I yeah, I definitely. As

1701
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: time goes on, the more I watch this movie, the

1702
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 2: more irritated it makes me. And I'm very curious if

1703
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 2: you agree that this is a bare minimum romance movie.

1704
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here, here's what I do. I think

1705
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: it just goes back to what the expectations for.

1706
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 3: Romances on screen were at this point in time, right, Like,

1707
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 3: I think we're still within the window. I mean, I

1708
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 3: don't know, like gen X kids were probably watching this

1709
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: film or they knew about this film late eighties, right,

1710
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 3: But it's this moment where I'm like, I think it

1711
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 3: was supposed to have been, Like I just feel like

1712
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: it's we're fast forwarded so far ahead where having this

1713
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 3: kind of concept of like a bare minimum eh like

1714
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,839
Speaker 3: moment between two people. I think in these both these films,

1715
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 3: in these eras, it was seen as romantic to be

1716
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 3: like two negative people getting together in this very unceremonious

1717
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 3: way and they don't talk about it beyond just like, well,

1718
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 3: I guess we're just together because we're both impossible and

1719
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: there's nobody else that will like us, and so we'll

1720
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 3: just settle for each other.

1721
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 2: That is what I'm That is what hits the hardest

1722
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: for me with this film in particular, is that it's like,

1723
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: we're both so insufferable that we might as well be together, right,

1724
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 2: And I don't see the development of like I love

1725
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Speaker 2: how she does this, or I love how she does that,

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01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 2: or she's so cute or whatever. It's like, none of

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Speaker 2: that is there. She doesn't say any of that, like

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01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: in terms of like I really love how we are conversations,

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01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 2: or I really you know, I really like the way

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01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 2: that you make me feel. It's just two angry, weird

1731
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 2: people who are like we might as well yes, because cheerful,

1732
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 2: earnest people were boring to watch in comedies, Like it's like, oh,

1733
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 2: we need to find who are the underdogs here?

1734
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Who are the grumpy underdogs with the weird quirks? And

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01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 3: I want to see them get together and they barely

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01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 3: like each other. But for some reason that makes me

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01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 3: happy because it feels more realistic.

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Speaker 1: And there's a moment where, yes, I think I was

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Speaker 1: drawn towards that. Certainly, as a young person.

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Speaker 3: I was very much like I want to see two

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01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 3: fucked up grumps sort of like smash themselves together in

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01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 3: a relationship and then that's it. But now I feel

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01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 3: like we're just in such a different mode. And I

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01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 3: don't know if it's because the world's changed or like

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01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 3: I've changed. I mean, obviously we've changed, but it's that

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01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 3: thing of like, I don't know. Now I feel like,

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01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 3: like in romances, I feel like there's now more people

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01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 3: make more of an effort to work on themselves, maybe

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01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 3: theoretically more discussion.

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01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, fingers crossed.

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01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 3: There's less of the fucking like traditional gender bullshit happening,

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01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 3: you know. I think that like people are more invested

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01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 3: in their own goals and then their own selves that

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01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 3: they're like, well, I'm not going to fucking just settle

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Speaker 3: for somebody.

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01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: I might just fucking wait it out or be alone.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like there's more of that conversation happening

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01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 3: than like, so it makes you look back at movies

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01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 3: like this where they're like, oh, they're just like getting

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01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 3: together because they have nobody else that to fucking hang

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01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 3: out with or whatever, and you're just like, wow, that's

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Speaker 3: a bummer.

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Speaker 2: It's a fucking bummer, and that's the thing, Like it's

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01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: never a concept and maybe because it's the very trope

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01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 2: of this is a romantic comedy, but it's never even

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01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 2: crosses anyone's mind to just be alone and you know,

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01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: wait it out, or be alone possibly forever and still

1768
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: have a good life. Like it's always centered around you

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01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 2: have to pick someone, it might as well be this one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I don't think either of us too are

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01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: saying that.

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01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 3: It isn't charming that somebody likes us in spite of

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01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 3: these faults or something like it would be charming if

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01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 3: the next person who date said, well, the reason why

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01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 3: I found Danielle attractive and it made me fall in

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01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 3: love with her is because I saw her fling a

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01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 3: diva cup across the room into a pile of dirt. Ah,

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01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,719
Speaker 3: Like I would be like, God, that's like the sweetest

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01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 3: thing I'd ever heard.

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01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just have a real problem with

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01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: in these films that we've picked, and in this theme

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01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:50,520
Speaker 2: and category we've created in general, that like that romance

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01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: does not signify passion, and that it's almost like being

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01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:56,799
Speaker 2: passionate was uncool.

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Speaker 1: I will agree with that one hundreder.

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01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Like unnecessary and uncool for a relationship. And I feel

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01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 2: that more from Sally than I do Harry. Like Harry

1788
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: at least made the effort to be like, hey, I

1789
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 2: actually love you, and she was just like ah, fine,

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01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 2: Like it's just But there's from both of them, no passion.

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01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: And same thing in high Fidelity, and same thing in

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01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 2: a lot of films where you're like, there's a resignation

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01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 2: that makes that bums me the fuck out.

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01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 3: Yes, that's I think what the theme is about is

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01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 3: a resignation of both parties in both these films that

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01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 3: seems on the outside very romantic, but when you.

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01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 1: When you get down to it, is maybe a little depressing.

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01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and a lot of people my movie fucked people up,

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01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 2: especially because a lot of people think this is the

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01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 2: great the greatest thing in the world could be to

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01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: fall in love with someone who's your friend, who's already

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01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 2: your friend and already in your life. And I don't

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01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 2: know if you've ever fucked in near your friends, huh,

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01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: no comment, but I have once. Thankfully we are still

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01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: friends and this was many, many years ago. Yeah, but

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01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that I believe that that's necessary to

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01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: have actual romance, that you have to like know someone

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01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 2: deeply and intensely and kind of resign yourself to dealing

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01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 2: with them in order to have a relationship. Like, I

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01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: just I don't think that two always have to mix.

1811
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 2: I think that there's something really like not like you

1812
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 2: should just go up to a total stranger and be like, hey,

1813
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 2: let's get together. But I think that there is something

1814
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: fun and cool about like discovering things about each other

1815
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 2: and then dealing with them. That feels like a more

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01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 2: adult approach to a relationship. Yeah, but now we're in

1817
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 2: this space because of movies like this, where it's like

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01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: you have to be friends with and know someone intensely

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01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 2: and then it'll just work out because you have a foundation.

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01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, that foundation is rocky as shit

1821
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: and it's not enough to build a relationship on. I'm

1822
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 2: just I'm bothered. I'm so bothered by this fucking movie.

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01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and here's the thing. There is an actual,

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01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: non bare minimum romance in the film, which is the

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01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 1: Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher relationship. To be honest with you,

1826
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: that is the relationship that I love the most. I

1827
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: love them more than I love Harry and.

1828
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Sally exactly they're more interesting, they're funnier. They have a

1829
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 2: more realistic approach to like, hey, we actually like things

1830
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: about each other, let's date and check this out. And

1831
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: like they actually make adult decisions about being together. That

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01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 2: makes sense, even that wagon wheel table where like you're

1833
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: watching them compromise, You're watching them like like it just

1834
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 2: felt better to watch them on screen. There was some

1835
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 2: passion there.

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01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 3: Every time I see this movie now, I get I

1837
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 3: feel emotional knowing that Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher are

1838
01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 3: both dead.

1839
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, it makes me so sad to

1840
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: think about that.

1841
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 3: And because their relationship in this movie I think is

1842
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 3: what I would maybe think is the ideal, you know,

1843
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 3: is that they're both like I love that wagon wheel

1844
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 3: coffee table part of the movie. I think a lot

1845
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 3: of people do, which it's just like I'm never gonna

1846
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 3: want that wagon wheel coffee table Like that to me

1847
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 3: is like.

1848
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 1: So fucking funny.

1849
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 3: And I love that they both have phones like next

1850
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 3: to their beds, their own phone lines with that giant

1851
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 3: fucking headboard, and I just am like, to me, they're

1852
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 3: so there. I think the anti Harry and Sally because

1853
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 3: they met, you know, kind of and they just like

1854
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 3: jumped into a cab together and it was like instant romance.

1855
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 1: Right exactly.

1856
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1857
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 3: So to me, I'm kind of like, well, you know,

1858
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, yeah, maybe it is fun to

1859
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 3: watch these two grumps just like melt into each other

1860
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 3: after like.

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01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 2: A decade, But they've never become less annoying. They become

1862
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 2: more annoying together than they a part, which is also

1863
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 2: bare man romance for me, where I'm like, you're not changing,

1864
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 2: like you're not having a positive effect on each other.

1865
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 2: I know.

1866
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: I think it's just more like like who do you want?

1867
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: What is on your vision board? Is it this?

1868
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 3: Is it Harry and Sally is depressing shit? Or is

1869
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 3: it Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher's joyful marriage?

1870
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't know.

1871
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 3: Maybe back then, maybe as a young person, I like

1872
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 3: to the grumpy people, But now I kind of want

1873
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 3: a little hope.

1874
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, little hope, little passion, that's all we ask for. People.

1875
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, could truly talk about this all day,

1876
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: all day, but let's just give him the movies for

1877
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 2: next week. We will deal with our emotions in therapy.

1878
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 3: I am going to completely ignore the mail for the

1879
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 3: next couple weeks, because I can't even imagine what kind

1880
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,480
Speaker 3: of emails we're gonna get about.

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01:41:54,840 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: This searing takedown of when Harry mets Sally. We're good.

1882
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 2: Look, you send me your thoughts. I don't have to

1883
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: read them. Get it out, get it out of your system.

1884
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 2: I do not have to read it.

1885
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 3: Well, listen, So for next week's episode, I'm speechless. Movie,

1886
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm speechless, but I will say it anyway. The movies

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01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 3: for next week are January Man from nineteen eighty nine

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01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 3: and The Big Chill from nineteen eighty three.

1889
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 2: If you don't guess this theme, you have truly never

1890
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,799
Speaker 2: paid attention to a single thing I've said on this podcast.

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01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we would be very disappointed in you if you

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01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: didn't get the same. So, oh my god, listen.

1893
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 3: I know we just said we're not reading the mail

1894
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 3: for the next couple of weeks because of this episode,

1895
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 3: But if you want to email us, We're at I

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Speaker 2: feel about when Harry met Sally. Leave us a five

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01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,400
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Speaker 1: Want to play with you.

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Speaker 2: I want to play with.

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Speaker 1: That's what Casey, just.

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Speaker 2: That's what you fucking told people to write as a review.

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01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 2: I only say this because I want to look at

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Speaker 2: that page and laugh. I want to look at our

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Speaker 2: reviews and laugh. So just by god, by all means,

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Speaker 2: just please make us laugh if you can't think of

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01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 2: anything to say. But if you can't, and you can

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Speaker 2: also leave that. An earnest review is always appreciated. But

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Speaker 2: I want to play with you, and Bare Minimum Romance

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Speaker 2: will also have me roll in.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, listen, Danielle. As always, it is not

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Speaker 1: a bare minimum pleasure doing this podcast with you.

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Speaker 2: It could not be more the op It's the antithesis

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Speaker 2: of bare minimum pleasure. It is the highlight of my week.

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Speaker 2: And possibly my life. And I loved this episode and

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Speaker 2: I'd love chatting with you.

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Speaker 1: See you all next time, Come bue.

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