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Speaker 3: You know, pictures and catchers have reported Jmack.

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Speaker 1: We got baseball, we got the combine, we got Michigan Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Tonight.

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Speaker 1: Man, there's some good college basketball this weekend. I saw

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Speaker 1: Andy Katz in the building today. Big college basketball. Scribe,

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Speaker 1: it's all fired. CNN is going to have a new owner.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, don't get in trouble, coward. You know what,

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Speaker 1: We're careful, the care fame, great owners over at this company.

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Speaker 3: Wrong leadership. It's Robert May is going to be showing

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Speaker 3: enough couple minutes.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think people of power do need to

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Speaker 1: be held, you know, somewhat accountable. Right, and so the

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Speaker 1: NFL players, the truth, those comes out, the NFL players,

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA, they want those report cards out every year

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Speaker 1: at this time after a season's over, to say here's

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Speaker 1: the good owners, here's the bad owners because it holds

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Speaker 1: billionaires accountable, and there's some bad owners. There's about seven

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks in this league, seven great coaches, seven great gms,

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Speaker 1: and seven great owners. There's a lot of bad ones.

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Speaker 1: So the Steeler report card came out, and I've never

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Speaker 1: been on the Steeler plane, but apparently it's only got

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Speaker 1: one engine because they got f's across the board. They

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Speaker 1: got F on team travel and F on treatment of

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Speaker 1: families and F on locker room. How can you have

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Speaker 1: an F on a locker room team travel? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what are you giving people cold hot dogs for lunch? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how you get that grade, but

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Speaker 1: I think this stuff's you know, they didn't get fs

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Speaker 1: across the board. They got some you know, b's, and

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Speaker 1: the training staff got a B plus. The weight room

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Speaker 1: got to be, the nutritionists, the dietitian got to be.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple a's in there, special teams coordinator everybody liked.

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Speaker 1: But ownership got a D minus and f's everywhere, And

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Speaker 1: I think it's important.

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Speaker 3: The Rooneys have always had a.

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Speaker 1: Reputation as good people but cheap, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: used to be the Steelers were up here and the

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Speaker 1: Bengals were down there and now they're contemporaries. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know how team travel can be an f Are

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Speaker 1: they taking like a biplane? I don't even know. Is

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Speaker 1: it an open cockpit? I don't even understand that. How

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Speaker 1: can you butcher team travel? Yeah, by the way, the

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Speaker 1: head coach and the special teams coordinator they got a's

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Speaker 1: on this report guard they're both gone, So the average

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Speaker 1: grade is going to plummet for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: But it's important.

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Speaker 1: I think some of these owners, the cheap groups, the

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Speaker 1: frugal groups, and the bad owners, need to be called out.

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Speaker 1: They and players don't have very much leverage. They have

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Speaker 1: it in baseball, they have it in the NBA, they

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of leverage in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: they work their butt off and they very few players

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Speaker 1: get into trouble. Ninety nine percent of players are incredibly committed.

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Speaker 1: I think some of these owners need to be called

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Speaker 1: out with that. Robert Mays writer for The Athletic but

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Speaker 1: where I hear him is the Athletic Football Show podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is awesome. He is attending the NFL Combine this week,

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Speaker 1: which I didn't go to but friends did and it

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Speaker 1: is fun. That's what I will say. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of meeting. They call it the underwear Olympics, but it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of deal making. So let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: I said earlier, I can't fault the premise of what

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing. They're spending the money on the

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Speaker 1: right side. There, They've got a B plus quarterback, good weapons,

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Speaker 1: o lines getting better. But it doesn't It feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like they never get anybody at a discount.

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Speaker 1: The Rams and the Seahawks each have eight players like

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys feel like they get nobody. They had.

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Speaker 1: They impose their own tariff, Robert. Everybody's expensive. So when

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, and I think they had a

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Speaker 4: span of this franchise where everyone was on a discount,

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Speaker 4: them not winning. When Dak was the cheapest contract in

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Speaker 4: the NFL for a starting quarterback and probably the biggest

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Speaker 3: That was their best window.

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Speaker 4: Now it just becomes harder the way that these contracts

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Speaker 4: This year, they're going to be a team that spends

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Speaker 4: a lot of cash. They're going to pay twenty eight

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Speaker 4: so I think we're building to that this spring, and

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Speaker 4: actually I like to see that from the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: So I brought this up. I have been a huge supporter.

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Speaker 1: I think Steve Bushatti I've had I've had people around

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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are well run.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if when he was in college, if

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Speaker 1: Lamar was going to be a good NFL quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: I've spent the last five six years defending Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But now he wants a new deal. And there's been

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Speaker 1: sort of the Kawhi Leonard like he's hurt? Is he

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Speaker 1: of mystery around him. He doesn't necessarily want to be

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Speaker 1: other day is I can two things can be true.

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Speaker 1: I can like him a lot, but I can look

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Speaker 1: at John Harbaugh and John Harbaugh Jackson Dart is going

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Speaker 1: to be one twentieth of Lamar's cap hit. And you know,

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Speaker 1: what he's taking over Linderbaum, Lamar Jackson, Robert. I don't

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Speaker 1: if Lamar gets what he wants, I think it feels

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 4: I think they need more things to go their way

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Speaker 4: They always have these guys in the pipeline at all

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Speaker 4: these different positions. I look at edge rusher like that's

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Speaker 4: my favorite example, the amount of like third to fifth

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Speaker 4: they would just cycle through the next one and then

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Speaker 3: Matthew, Judan, Purnell, McPhee.

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Speaker 4: They were always being able to tap into these guys

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Speaker 4: deep at some of these positions, and so they're scrambling

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Speaker 4: more of this offseason into your offensive line, edge rusher,

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Speaker 4: safety corner. If they move on from Maron Humphrey, then

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Speaker 4: think there's enough baseline talent, and I do think they'll

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Speaker 4: figure out enough financial wiggle room by restructuring Lamar's deal

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Speaker 4: where if they do hit on two or three of

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Speaker 4: these things, combined with how exciting I am, how excited

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Speaker 4: I am about the coaching staff, I do think they

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Speaker 4: can thread that needle. I just think the degree of

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Speaker 1: John Middlkoff works at the Volume, and he made a

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Speaker 1: the most in like thirty years. And young gms are

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Speaker 1: because there were you know, they weren't bidding against themselves

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Speaker 1: like a hot real estate market. People are young gms

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Speaker 1: are deal makers, not just Howie Roseman. And I look

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Speaker 1: at Malik Willis and I know I've only got six starts,

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Speaker 3: He's playing two weeks later.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, he's kind of got the playbook down,

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Speaker 1: like this is impressive. And we can say, well, he's

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Speaker 1: not worth thirty five million. Well I've watched his six starts.

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Speaker 1: He's good. You know, it's it's the old American idol thing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't need five minutes to tell Carrie Underwood had

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Speaker 3: I've watched Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: He looks really talented to me, and I do believe

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Speaker 1: with all these young gms, two teams are.

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Speaker 4: Going to be interested. Are you hearing anything about that?

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Speaker 4: I think there's going to be a robust market for him.

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Speaker 4: last year. He came out of and said at the combine,

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Speaker 4: he said, if you're a quarterback and needy team and

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Speaker 4: you're telling me that you're not looking at Malik Willis.

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Speaker 3: You're a liar. And think about how many quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And needy teams there are and how few avenues there

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Speaker 4: are to those guys. This year, it's a terrible quarterback draft,

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Speaker 4: and even the veteran pool players the Niners are going

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Speaker 4: to want like a second round pick and change for

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Speaker 4: that position. Right, So I absolutely think there's going to

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Speaker 4: be a market for Milik Willis. The Coolest thing to

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Speaker 4: me is I just love watching how the league reacts

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Speaker 4: to certain archetypes and trends. So let's go back like

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Speaker 4: two or three years to when Baker Mayfield was just

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Speaker 4: out there on the street. Baker Mayfield signed a one year,

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Speaker 4: four million dollar deal to be the buck starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And then when he succeeds, you see it start to

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Speaker 4: All right, Donald's ten million, Daniel Jones is fifteen million,

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields is now twenty million. And so the idea

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Speaker 4: that you could have gotten Baker for four million bucks

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Speaker 4: three years ago, and now Malik Willis is going to

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Speaker 4: make thirty million dollars a year in free agency. It

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Speaker 4: just shows you how fast things change when a certain

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm having a coughing attack. I want to ask you, though,

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Speaker 3: cave on Thebadeaux Giants. Is there a market? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, there always is for edge rushers. I mean the

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Speaker 4: idea that a perfect example of this. Jermaine Johnson gets

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Speaker 4: traded to the Titans yesterday for Devandre Sweat to Andandre Sweat.

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Speaker 4: Even if schematically he doesn't fit what the Titans are,

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Speaker 4: He's a second year player who played really, really good

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Speaker 4: football last year. Jermaine Johnson's making thirteen million dollars a

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Speaker 4: that's not a lot of money. So even if Keveon

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Speaker 1: At twelve yesterday, it was interesting Dani Rolofski, who I

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Speaker 4: Would I'm never surprised by that. I mean, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert Mays, by the way, our staff don't say

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Speaker 1: recommendation in Chicago tonight, and nobody has better. Rex than Robert.

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Speaker 1: So Robert, thank you for stopping by the show. As always,

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Speaker 3: God got him ready for you. So just let me know. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Robert mays he does great work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's like there's certain things that

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Speaker 3: It's good for your back. And the thing about quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: in college for seven years. Seven years.

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Speaker 3: He was there for a hot lunch program.

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Speaker 5: I think. So again, those guys have way more experience

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Speaker 5: than ty Simpson. Ty Simpson can start.

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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson, you could look it up, but I think

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Speaker 1: he sat for two or three years after three years,

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Speaker 1: and it's like Mac Jones, by the way, didn't start

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Speaker 1: for a ton of years and was a pro bowler

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Speaker 1: right out of the shoot because Mac Jones had been

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Speaker 1: in the Alabama CoSystem with Saban and good coaching.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a fair point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you really get Nick Saban coaching to

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Speaker 1: Kaitlin de Boor and ty Simpson got both, that is

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Speaker 1: a masterclass in college football coaching.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird. I like, remember how much I like

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Speaker 5: Tyler ty Simpson during the season, it's one of me betts.

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Speaker 5: He was amazing in the fourth quarter and then he

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Speaker 5: faded late in the season, and you're like, oh, is

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Speaker 5: this the real him? Now we have a season full

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Speaker 5: of tape on him, and he was totally bottled up.

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Speaker 5: He kind of got embarrassed by Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, let's be honest. Alabama didn't

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Speaker 1: have that many good players.

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Speaker 5: They went into the season with the kid Ryan Williams,

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Speaker 5: who was supposed to be a superstar. He regressed badly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so if you watched Alabama play Indiana, I

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Speaker 1: thought Indiana had more good players.

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Speaker 5: Not even close. Yet Notre Dame should have been in

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Speaker 5: the playoff over Alabama. Alabama's not that good. It's weird.

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Speaker 5: I'm not bashing Ty Simpson. I'm just saying I had

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Speaker 5: wanted the Jets to get a quarterback in the first

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Speaker 5: No way, now I want to Ohio State guys. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: I would love Reese and Sunny styles at sixteen recent

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Speaker 5: two styles of sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll be able to get one interception next year

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Speaker 1: if you draft those two.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the reminder, Buddy, Bye.

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Speaker 1: By February. By the way, thanks to the staff, I

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Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know where it came from, but

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Speaker 1: The average user yesterday on that ai Colin had seven

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Speaker 1: different exchanges. Some of you spent over an hour on it,

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Speaker 1: so we'll give your heads up later in this hour.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Appreciate it. I think it's useful and it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I messed around with it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the News.

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Speaker 5: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 5: The NFLPA report cards, and the Packers are an interesting

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Speaker 5: team that is slowly declining. I guess they were seventh

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Speaker 5: last year in overall rankings that haven't fall into twenty first.

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Speaker 5: It was the steepest year over year decline of any team.

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Speaker 5: The drop off is largely driven by their decline in

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Speaker 5: grades for training room and training staff, which are now

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Speaker 5: graded out as bottom third in the league.

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Speaker 1: I've always heard the Packers treat their players, won't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird, like the Steelers and the Packers now

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Speaker 5: all of a sudden stink corning the report.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not big money teams. Pittsburgh's owners and Green Bay

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Speaker 1: doesn't have an owner per se, so they they you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean the big ownership groups, the money teams are

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Philadelphia, Los Angeles. You know, those are some

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Speaker 1: of your richer owners. Atlanta's got money of some of

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Speaker 1: these owners, these old school owners. You know, the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and the Rams may both be in Los Angeles, but

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Speaker 1: the Rams have a lot more money than the Charterers

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Speaker 1: because Stan Kronkey is I think he's the biggest land

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Speaker 1: owner in America. So you know, it's a different ballgame.

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Speaker 1: Some of these I know, they're all billionaires. But you know,

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Speaker 1: like Steven Ross is one of the richest owners. They

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Speaker 1: have unbelievable facilities in Miami.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do to take what you want out of

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Speaker 5: these report cards. Apparently Matt Lafleur got to be minus,

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Speaker 5: like he's one of the better coaches in the league.

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Speaker 5: Jim Harball got a crappy grade. Aaron Glenn got an

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Speaker 5: A like A A A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on, what are we doing report cards?

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Speaker 5: Read into them what you want. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: packers sliding. We'll see maybe no free agents want to

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Speaker 5: go there, Colin, I don't know. I don't think there's

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Speaker 5: any data to back it up.

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Speaker 3: Let me see. Let these report card. This isn't bad.

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Speaker 3: It's a bunch of a's, b's and c's.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if your kid got that on the report card,

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Speaker 5: you'd be like, all right, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'd be overjoyed.

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Speaker 5: Really, I thought you had a couple of Rhodes Scholars

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Speaker 5: in the family there. Huh, maybe not hit.

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Speaker 3: The Rhodes Scholars.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin,

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Speaker 5: and as the world turns, we wait for aj Brown.

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Speaker 5: Something that happened with him? But the story until that

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Speaker 5: moves is Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni. Obviously there's a

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Speaker 5: new OC. But the latest report is all these OC candidates,

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Speaker 5: there were a million of them. I think I saw

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Speaker 5: eighteen new offensive coordinators around the league. A lot of

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Speaker 5: them passed on even interviewing with the Eagles. There's no thanks,

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Speaker 5: I'm not interested in the job. Well, there's concerns over

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Speaker 5: Hurts and there's concerns over Sirianni, and it feels like

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Speaker 5: an unstable situation.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me the concerns are mostly with Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what U to say? Like, when everybody's afraid

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Speaker 5: of something, you need to run there.

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Speaker 2: You need to go to the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: That's a super Bowl team, super Bowl winning team.

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Speaker 1: Collin, So, offensive coordinators do not buy into Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: You know what coaches buy into Justin Herbert. Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 1: had his pickup jobs. He moved cross country to the

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Speaker 1: expensive LA market, Jalen Hurts and the Eagles can't get

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Speaker 1: a coordinator.

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Speaker 3: What does that tell you?

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Speaker 5: You think South Beach McDaniel would have fit in Philly.

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Speaker 1: I think Beach McDaniels knows what everybody in the league does.

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Speaker 1: Despite the fact that one quarterback has a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and the other can't win a playoff game, Herbert's the

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Speaker 1: much better player in the coordinators you.

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Speaker 5: Know, agree with you on that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's it's obvious that you know, there's concerns about Sirianni,

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Speaker 1: which is true.

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Speaker 3: I've been told that, And there's concerns over Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I just I don't know what all

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Speaker 5: these people are afraid of. I mean, you've got a

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Speaker 5: guy who's won a Super Bowl and went to another

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Speaker 5: c over the middle of the field. He's got to

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Speaker 5: help Low That's what you do. That's what you you do.

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Speaker 5: You help him, help the quarterbacks figure give.

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Speaker 3: Him what are you going to give him platform shoes?

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Speaker 5: I mean he's not one of the shortest quarterbacks in

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Speaker 5: the league. What, yeah, he is Jalen Hurts. Yes, were

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Speaker 5: the shortest quarterbacks in the league. Okay, I'll need to

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Speaker 5: see the data to back that up. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: wasn't a problem when they were winning super Bowls and

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Speaker 5: winning the division.

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Speaker 3: Well they were.

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Speaker 1: They won one super Bowl and they had the best

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Speaker 1: running game in the league with a past offensive line

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Speaker 1: in the league.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he threw for like three hundred yards against

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs. But it's neither here nor there. Let's wrap

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Speaker 5: up Calum with the NBA. Oh boy, this guy, I'm

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Speaker 5: surprised you didn't bash him to start the show. DeAndre Ayton, oh,

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, gave an interview to Dave mc beneman

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Speaker 5: and said a bunch of nonsense, essentially saying they want

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Speaker 5: to turn me into Clint Capella. I mean, who do

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Speaker 5: you think you are? Jabbar? DeAndre Ayton is delusional.

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Speaker 3: And of course Capella is a good player.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he was awesome in Houston, the perfect He would

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Speaker 5: be ideal with Luca, block shots and rim run for dunks.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's what Luca did with Gaffer. Here's what's DeAndre aid.

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Speaker 1: They didn't like him in Arizona. I don't like him

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix, they didn't like him in Portland. They don't

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Speaker 1: love him in LA. So it's like he is and

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Speaker 1: he you know, as a number one pick out of

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Speaker 1: University of Arizona, he's been a disappointment.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's been happy with him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's always the same question on Deon

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Speaker 1: Ray you get you get the dog about you know

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Speaker 1: in spurts, but you don't. You never really know the

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Speaker 1: effort you're gonna get. Like, he's a very inconsistent guy.

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Speaker 1: At times he's focused, sometimes he's not. Sometimes you got

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Speaker 1: great energy, sometimes there are lapses, there are haves, and

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Speaker 1: games you don't.

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Speaker 3: So it's always been the same thing.

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Speaker 1: He's got some offensive gifts, he's got good size, he's athletic,

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Speaker 1: but not much of a defensive player, and he is

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Speaker 1: completely hit and miss on effort.

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Speaker 5: And then I think that's a great analysis because you

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Speaker 5: just don't. You can't play with Luka, Doncic and Lebron

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Speaker 5: and show up every three games with the dog mentality.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Colin this, this guy's been a Clint Capella

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Speaker 5: who he was like derisively referred to. He went on

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Speaker 5: social media and wrote this, you got two of the

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Speaker 5: best floor general in the game. My dog lock in,

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Speaker 5: Like that's what any basketball player is saying. How are

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Speaker 5: you not locked in playing with Luca and Lebron? Two generations?

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Speaker 1: Think about this? The guy is like six' eleven in.

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Speaker 1: Athletic in twenty three minutes last, night oh, gosh he

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Speaker 1: had two, points no, blocks and the team worse plus

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Speaker 1: minus of minus twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four so it Was and by the, way you.

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Speaker 1: Think going To phoenix against was on that, team he'd

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Speaker 1: be all fired up in all laser zoneoned.

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Speaker 3: In he had one of his worst games of the.

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Speaker 5: Year, unbelievable just such a. Disappointment now, LISTEN i Will

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Speaker 5: i'll defend. It for most of the, season he's been

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Speaker 5: fine and had eight million dollars this. Year he's a,

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Speaker 5: Bargain he's a Mean. Listen Dorian Finnie smith is GETTING

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Speaker 5: i think fifteen million from this from The. Rockets remember

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Speaker 5: he was with The lakers last year and, good and it's, like,

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Speaker 5: yikes that's a horrible. Contract he's playing, Terribly So eyton

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Speaker 5: should show up and of course he's.

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Speaker 3: Not jmack with The.

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Speaker 2: News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 2: the Herd Line.

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Speaker 1: News you, Know Chris Bruce sardo says that your game

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Speaker 1: is your. Game you Know DeAndre ayton's. GAME i loved

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Speaker 1: him in. College, big ran the, floor super, athletic nice offensive.

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Speaker 1: Promise but you, know you kind of. KNOW i, mean you,

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Speaker 1: say after a guy's been in the league like three,

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Speaker 3: Good with The.

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Speaker 4: Winning When dak was the cheapest contract in THE nfl

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Speaker 4: for at starting quarterback and probably the biggest bargain in

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Speaker 4: the entire, league that was their best.

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Speaker 4: Harder you can throw around money like The eagles do

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Speaker 1: Him AND i think that's just what's, happened is that

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Speaker 3: Million now CAP's going through the. Roof so you, know

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Speaker 3: there's money to.

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Speaker 1: Spend if you have a quarterback Like drake may Or

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Speaker 1: PHILLIPS i think The eagles would like to retain his.

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Speaker 1: up And i'll argue This Malik. WILLIS i, Know i've

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Speaker 1: SPEND i THINK i Think Malik willis is gonna get.

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Speaker 5: Paid, Okay, Colin so we started With Keaveon. THIBODEAU i

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Speaker 1: York so the cap is three hundred and one officially

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Speaker 1: three hundred and one. Million that's twenty two million over last.

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Speaker 1: Year so that's a couple of good. Players Malie willis

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Speaker 1: is gonna get thirty million somewhere THIS.

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Speaker 3: I don't, know don't see thirty.

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