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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, today's episode is special. This is a person

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Speaker 1: not even sure that I've ever interviewed this person except

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Speaker 1: maybe at breakfast about how she slept. This is my

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Speaker 1: wife of thirty five years, the fabulous director, producer, an

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Speaker 1: award winning actress, my all around favorite person, Kira Sedgwick.

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Speaker 1: And to make it even more special, we have Stacy Houston,

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Speaker 1: who runs our foundation six degrees dot org. So this

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Speaker 1: is a very personal episode for me, and there are

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Speaker 1: two people that I'm very very close to, and I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a lot of fun. So lean in.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one. Okay, here I am. This is

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Speaker 1: very very special edition of six Degrees with Kevin Bacon

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Speaker 1: because it's a six Degrees with Kevin Bacon and Curra Cedwric. Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: How are you goodhead? You look amazing? Thank you who

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Speaker 1: set up your lighting?

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Speaker 2: Kevin Bacon?

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Speaker 1: Well, So, for people that don't know this, what's one

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Speaker 1: of our least favorite things to do?

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Speaker 3: What is one of our least favorite things to do? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'm going it's a little very comersed and talk about ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Interviews about ourselves in our marriage.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, that's right. The question

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Speaker 3: what's the secret to a happy marriage?

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Speaker 1: What's a secret to a happy marriage?

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Speaker 2: Kurra, that old chestnut.

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Speaker 3: The secret to a happy marriage is not to take

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Speaker 3: advice from celebrities about the secret to a happy marriage.

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Speaker 1: Tell me how did you first? You two first meet?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what's heard it all before?

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Speaker 1: Kevin? What's your favorite Kia Sedgwick movie? And Kurra, what's

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Speaker 1: your favorite Kevin Bacon. I mean, it's just so it's

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Speaker 1: so hard. I was just on with uh with with

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Speaker 1: Seth and Lauren Rogan, who are married couple. They are

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Speaker 1: first you know, married couple to be on the six Degrees.

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Speaker 1: Although this might air before it, but they seemed totally comfortable,

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Speaker 3: it somehow makes it I don't know, I always feel

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Speaker 3: don't want to come off like that. Plus it's ours,

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Speaker 3: And the more that we talk about it press, the

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Speaker 3: So I don't think if you don't see it, you

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Speaker 3: and you know, thinking and then. But my skill set

438
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Speaker 3: would never be as high fluten as my tastes. Right,

439
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Speaker 3: So I think that there's understanding that disparity can make

440
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: you frozen in like paralyzed, you know, perfectionism, paralyzation, right,

441
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: So I think that paralyzed and perfectionism, I think they

442
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: can follow each other if you're too you know, worried

443
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Speaker 3: about being perfect. So I think it's scary to take

444
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Speaker 3: a chance. Women are generally risk averse for good reason,

445
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: because I think we only get one chance, maybe two.

446
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: Don't get me started on that, and so we are

447
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Speaker 3: a little more risk averse. But I think that, honestly,

448
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Speaker 3: it had a lot to do with you, which is

449
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Speaker 3: I you know, it's hard.

450
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Speaker 5: To get enough credit, but I mean, I think for

451
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Speaker 5: years you were like, you really should direct, you know,

452
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Speaker 5: you really have an eye for it, you And.

453
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Speaker 3: And I just told myself a lot of stories, you

454
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, about ways why I couldn't do it.

455
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Speaker 3: And then I stopped telling myself that story. And I

456
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: had something that I had been wanting to make into

457
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Speaker 3: a film for a really long time as a producer,

458
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Speaker 3: and and I finally was like, you know, I've lived

459
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Speaker 3: with this thing for ten years, and the opportunity came

460
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Speaker 3: to make it, and I was like, you know what,

461
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Speaker 3: and I want.

462
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Speaker 2: To direct it.

463
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Speaker 3: And literally, when I set it out loud loud in

464
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Speaker 3: the meeting, it was sort of like, who the hell

465
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: just said? That? Was that me that I say that?

466
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: But I but once I said it, I realized it

467
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Speaker 3: was true. And I think that it was scary and

468
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Speaker 3: it was you know, I felt the fear, and I

469
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Speaker 3: just did it anyway, you know, and then fell madly

470
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Speaker 3: in love with it, you know, so now I don't

471
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Speaker 3: want to turn back.

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Speaker 1: Well, there was no shock to me that you fell

473
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Speaker 1: in love with it, And the reason that it was

474
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Speaker 1: no shock to me was that I could always see

475
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Speaker 1: you either on the set when you were acting in something,

476
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Speaker 1: looking at things with a directorial eye, and I towards

477
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Speaker 1: what's happening with this process? Is there anything that's going

478
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Speaker 1: on here that's not going to be useful to us

479
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: in the final product. You also oftentimes knew exactly what

480
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: it was that another actor was missing in terms of

481
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: their performance. And when we would watch films together. Now

482
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Speaker 1: if we go to the movies, we sometimes have to,

483
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, try to remind you to you're not allowed

484
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: to talk back at the screen, but while we're at

485
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Speaker 1: home you do all the time. Oh my god, please

486
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: or oh wow. These are things that you would say

487
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: while watching, which to me sort of indicates that you're

488
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Speaker 1: you're you have a certain kind of analytical thing about

489
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: the art of filmmaking. Not to mention you know, your

490
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: point of view or visual style, but I think you

491
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: really came to it from a personal mostly a personal

492
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: and human kind of, you know, connection to it. So

493
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Speaker 1: it never really surprised me not only that you would

494
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: want to do it, but that also that you would

495
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: be so good at it, especially since I remember, you know,

496
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: from the very from very early on, you come to

497
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: the set and I could see you watching me off camera,

498
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: and every once in a while and you come up

499
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: and say, hey, do a little less or hey, you know,

500
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: you know, don't smile some of whatever it was, you know,

501
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: little little tips for hobby that you just couldn't resist.

502
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'd have to say, honey, uh, you know,

503
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: maybe don't make any suggestions right now, because that's you

504
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: know Clint Eastwood over there, or Ron Howard or or

505
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone or you know what I mean.

506
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 6: But but it's it's it's it makes complete sense to

507
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 6: me that you would have, you know, found this this

508
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 6: other way to communicate all the all the you know,

509
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 6: artistic talent that you have.

510
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: H when you when we first started this conversation, we

511
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, how you were feeling and how overwhelming, uh,

512
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, life can be and the news can be

513
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: and all those things. How do you personally kind of

514
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: deal with that when when you when you when you

515
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: have those feelings, well, I.

516
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: Try to remember, in terms of the environmental depression that

517
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: can overwhelm that part of my job is to love

518
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: the planet exactly how she is today.

519
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: And to.

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00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Take joy and solace in her beauty. And I feel

521
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: like that's super important to do. So when I get

522
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: overwhelmed with like how terrible everything is and I get

523
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: so scared, I still that feels like a guiding life

524
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: for me, like a very important thing to keep in

525
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: mind that I get to, you know, be joyful and

526
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: love what's here now. I think doing service is really

527
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: the antidote to feeling bad.

528
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it just it just is. That's the question

529
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: you asked, right, honey. Okay, yeah, yeah.

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00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: I mean if I can do something every day that

531
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: makes me feel like I'm taking an action for healing around,

532
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, what I buy at the grocery store,

533
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: like avoiding single use plastic and going you know what,

534
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm not going to I'm not going to buy the

535
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, tuna sandwich that's in a plastic box for

536
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: no reason or God forbid, like the plastic covered orange.

537
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to make a choice with my

538
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: dollar to you know, buy something that I know I

539
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: can that will not create a lot of waste that

540
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: will last longer than the Pyramids, which is what plastic lasts.

541
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: How long plastic lasts. It will last millennium. It will

542
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: be here long past my lifetime and my children's lifetime.

543
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: So I have to understand that every time I use

544
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: a piece of plastic, contrary to popular belief, it does

545
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: not get recycled and recycled. For these companies are putting

546
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: it in the ocean or burning it, which I don't

547
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: think is recycled. Like three percent of all plastic is recycled,

548
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: so that's a paltry number. So I have to So

549
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: that's a way to take action right and make me

550
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: feel a little bit better and a little more a

551
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: part of the solution. And also doing service, any kind

552
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: of service, whether it's you know, doing something for the

553
00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: food bank for New York City, or doing something for

554
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: Swing Left, which is a you know, political group that

555
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm involved with, or or whipping up you know, phone bankers,

556
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: getting on a zoom or going somewhere and going raw raw.

557
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: You guys, you're volunteering. You're amazing. I'm so excited that

558
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: you're here today, and let's go out and knock on

559
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: some doors, you know, encouraging people to vote, encouraging people

560
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: to use their voice, helping them understand that they make

561
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: a difference, that everything they do makes a difference, and

562
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: not be inundated with the apathy that they, the corporations

563
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: want us to feel all the time and the political

564
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: entities want us to feel all the time, so that

565
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: we just don't make any noise and we don't get

566
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: too angry, and we don't force them to make a

567
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: different and better choice.

568
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 5: You know.

569
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: So I'm going to be that person who's going to

570
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: be like, you can do it, yes, And that feels

571
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: like something I can do. I'm good at, you know,

572
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: going on MSNBC and talking about why I walked in

573
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: the Climate March and specifically why I walked in it,

574
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: and so, you know, just doing what I can to

575
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: use my voice to elevate people that don't have as

576
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: loud a voice, you know, or don't have people pointing

577
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: a camera at them.

578
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: And is there anything that you do? Uh, those are

579
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: all amazing. Is there anything that you do personally just

580
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: for yourself? I mean, drink tea or I don't know,

581
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: I think people would be interested in a Yeah, I.

582
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: Mean I think I exercise a lot. Exercise really helps

583
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: me to both my serotonin because I can get you

584
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: know blue. I feel like it's a it's a real

585
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: like chemical thing for me. I meditate, try to meditate

586
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: every day utterly and perfectly, because you know, there's no

587
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: such thing as a perfect meditation. You know, you're constantly

588
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: trying to discipline your mind to just come back to

589
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: the breath and uh. And I find it really helpful

590
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: because because it's so easy to like land on the negative.

591
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: For me, it just it just is. And so so

592
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: if I can like see that negative and move right

593
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: past it. You know, sometimes sometimes it's important to immerse

594
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 3: yourself and in, you know, the problem, so you can

595
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: understand what the solutions might be. But sometimes it's like

596
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: really unhealthy to immerse myself in the problem, so I

597
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: try to like figure that out.

598
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: You know.

599
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: Community like community like talking to people, having friends, having

600
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: a community that I can go to to talk about,

601
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: you know, talking to other activists also really makes me

602
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: feel good. Really, those kinds of things can help like

603
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: quell the like despair and like you know, hamster wheel

604
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: in my.

605
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Brain well, I think this is a good segue to

606
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: bring in our pal stay Hugh Kacey. Stacy runs six

607
00:33:52,920 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: degrees dot org, which is the foundation that I started

608
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: and that Kira has oftentimes interacted and overlapped with, and

609
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: that is where this where this podcast sprung from. So Stacey, welcome,

610
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: thanks so much.

611
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be here.

612
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: How are you doing.

613
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 5: I'm doing good. Similar to Kira, it was a rough

614
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: way to start the day, for sure. I know in

615
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: this airs it'll be getting Tuesday and we're coming off

616
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: of the holiday with our family and a good in

617
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: a good space. But yeah, filming a few weeks ahead

618
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 5: of time. Obviously, we woke up to some pretty sad

619
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: news and it's almost numbing, but also the reason why

620
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: we we get up every day and we do this work.

621
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Speaker 5: So I'm just glad that I get to be with

622
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 5: with you all today.

623
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Speaker 1: And speaking of doing the work, which we're going to

624
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: talk about, but I want to find out from you

625
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: what is it, I mean that makes you want to

626
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: do this work. You've been with six Degrees how many

627
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: years has it been there?

628
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 5: Almost eight years?

629
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Speaker 1: Almost eight years? And when you came on board, it

630
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: was just the greatest moment, I could just feel all

631
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: of your compassion and energy and intelligence and drive. And

632
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always impressed with people who choose a

633
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: life of being involved with, you know, giving back, And

634
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: I just wondered what you think it is about you

635
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: and about your upbringing the bride to this place.

636
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: I think, first off, thank you, that was all so

637
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: kind to hear. I think often this work finds us

638
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: and it chooses us. You know, Kira, and I don't

639
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 5: know if you remember this, we did a podcast together,

640
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 5: the Web of Women, a few years ago, and that's

641
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 5: when you and I really got to know each other well,

642
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 5: and so much of what you spoke about that day

643
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: and earlier today resumeets with me. I grew up in

644
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 5: an environment pretty kind of mid upper class kind of town,

645
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: but I had a mother who was legally blind, was

646
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: in a car accident when I was eight years old.

647
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 5: I had a father that was abusive and then left

648
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: shortly after that, and then a stepfather that was an alcoholic,

649
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: a wonderful man, but had substance abuse. And so a

650
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 5: lot of my life was trying to sit in with

651
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 5: what I felt like were perfect lives around me. Everywhere

652
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 5: I looked which we all know that was wasn't the case, right,

653
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 5: But that's how it seems when you're when you're young sometimes.

654
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Speaker 5: But I was having to grow up really quickly, being

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Speaker 5: supporting her being visually impaired, also being the recipient for

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Speaker 5: so many programs that helped our family get by and

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Speaker 5: allowed me to play sports and play varsity volleyball and

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Speaker 5: be a part of the school newspaper and go on

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Speaker 5: to college and you know, be able to pay for

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Speaker 5: the university that I wanted to go to, and so

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Speaker 5: on and so forth. But I my whole life, I

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Speaker 5: was a pretty deep mpath and still am, and I

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Speaker 5: often would find myself similar to here. It just like

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Speaker 5: overcome with emotion when something in the world was so painful.

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Speaker 5: And when I had this opportunity to come and work

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Speaker 5: for you, I felt like it was a culmination of

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Speaker 5: all these different things in my life and my career

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Speaker 5: because at that point I had been doing new market development,

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Speaker 5: business and sales for quite a long time on the

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Speaker 5: for profit side. But it was an opportunity to finally

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Speaker 5: kind of use those skills and talent to move the

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Speaker 5: needle more than I felt like I could do as

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Speaker 5: just an individual, and you a looted that platform, that

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Speaker 5: extension of you and your platform and Kira as well

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Speaker 5: to help move these programs and help amplify these campaigns

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Speaker 5: so that we could do a great deal of good.

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Speaker 5: So really, I think it was, yeah, the culmination of

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Speaker 5: kind of life experiences and knowing that I needed to

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Speaker 5: take a step and I would only be fulfilled if

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Speaker 5: I was doing kind of purpose driven work.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, Well, this is an episode where we are shamelessly

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Speaker 1: tooting our own hoards, starting with having listen to anybody

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Speaker 1: would be lucky to have my wife as a guest

685
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Speaker 1: on her podcast, So I and it was Stacy's idea,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, well, like, I think she's going

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Speaker 1: to want to do it. Let's say I'll get her

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Speaker 1: to do it. I think she probably did it more

689
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Speaker 1: for you, Stace than she did for me.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: But since we are here tooting our own hoards, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about six degrees and what we have going on

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Speaker 1: these days.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. So I think most people know the

695
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Speaker 5: sixth degrees separation theory and what has been synonymous with

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Speaker 5: you Kevin and your career, the sixth Degrees of Kevin Bacon,

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Speaker 5: and just a little background for those that you know

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Speaker 5: know that idea but know less a little less about

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Speaker 5: six degrees dot org. You basically started this organization in

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Speaker 5: two thousand and seven. You really wanted to take yourself

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Speaker 5: out of it in a way, and you've talked about

702
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Speaker 5: this lots of time in the past, like if you

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Speaker 5: take me out, we're all just human beings looking for

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Speaker 5: and in fact really needing connection. So six Degrees was

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Speaker 5: founded along those principles and much of what Kira and

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Speaker 5: you talked about earlier, like providing opportunities for people to

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Speaker 5: connect with one another through these different service opportunities and

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Speaker 5: opportunities to get back. So you know, we really just

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Speaker 5: support initiatives that sustain in rich local communities. We're focused

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Speaker 5: all in the United States. This podcast has been a

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Speaker 5: way for us to kind of look at organizations globally,

712
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 5: which has been really really fun. But our core programming

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Speaker 5: have always been really focused domestically because that's where we

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Speaker 5: believe we can make the greatest impact. So we have

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Speaker 5: four pillars. Those pillars are youth empowerment, which we obviously

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Speaker 5: do a lot or work around young people through music

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Speaker 5: and education and you know, getting them tools and resources

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Speaker 5: that they need, just as an equity, which is you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a wide whye reaching of course from gender equity

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Speaker 5: to and we kind of touched on that through LGBTQ rights,

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Speaker 5: so on and so forth. Improving a sustainable living environment,

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Speaker 5: and that's where we kind of do the work around

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Speaker 5: climate action and PSAs to help people to move in

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Speaker 5: the right direction towards better sustainable goals in terms of

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Speaker 5: our environment. And then we really try to remain agile

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Speaker 5: so that we can support some emerging crisis that come up.

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Speaker 5: And it seems like that's happening obviously more and more

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Speaker 5: directly related to gun violence or natural disasters that seem

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Speaker 5: to be on the uptick. If you are inspired by

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Speaker 5: today's episode, please join us in supporting six degrees dot

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Speaker 5: org by texting the word Bacon to seven zero seven

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Speaker 5: zero seven zero. Your gift empowers us to continue to

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Speaker 5: produce programs that highlight the incredible work of everyday heroes,

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Speaker 5: well also enabling us to provide essential resources to those

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Speaker 5: visit six degrees dot org to learn more.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting talking about these pillars, and we've talked about

739
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Speaker 1: it a lot, and it really relates back to you, Kurra.

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Speaker 1: You know. You you were saying how you were kind

741
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Speaker 1: of going down this list of uh, environment and hunger,

742
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Speaker 1: your your relationship with food bank in New York, and

743
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Speaker 1: gun violence and the times that you've you know, reached

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Speaker 1: out and also on political causes. And you know, we're

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Speaker 1: kind of in the same boade in terms of six degrees.

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Speaker 1: And I often talk about how if you're going to

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Speaker 1: be a celebrity and get involved with the cause, it's

748
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Speaker 1: probably going to be easier if you just pick one,

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Speaker 1: you know. And And when when I was taught thinking

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Speaker 1: about doing this this uh, you know, six degrees dot org,

751
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: every time I would think, well, I'll just do you know,

752
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Speaker 1: save the redwoods, or it's just going to be kids,

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Speaker 1: or it's just going to be you know, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: I just kept going, Yeah, but there's this over here,

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Speaker 1: and there's this over here, and there's this over here.

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Speaker 1: And there was something about the number six and the

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Speaker 1: and the and and the and the idea of connectivity

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Speaker 1: that I just really resisted and and so I think

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Speaker 1: that it's interesting that all of us, all all three

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Speaker 1: of us have that point of view where where where

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Speaker 1: we just are, uh, we just see so much out

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00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: there that that you know, needs help. And it's been

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Speaker 1: so fascinating from the podcast point of view because people

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Speaker 1: come in and every time I finished talking to the

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Speaker 1: person that runs their organization, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the thing, you know, and then somebody else comes in

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Speaker 1: and we talk about that, and I feel that as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are there challenge Jesus if I challenges in

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Speaker 1: terms of that stace, like in terms of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: keeping our focus being spread too thin?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think absolutely. And for the

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Speaker 5: first few years it was a struggle to also community

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Speaker 5: keep that to funders, right because at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, you're doing all this incredible work. We know

775
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Speaker 5: it's not just anecdotal. We can see the impact, we

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Speaker 5: have the metrics around it. But you know, we talked

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Speaker 5: about this. Sometimes it's easier to say we do water,

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Speaker 5: we provide access to water and you know, and we

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Speaker 5: put in wells, and that's a very easy and clear message,

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Speaker 5: but quite frankly, it's it doesn't speak to kind of

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Speaker 5: who you are, who I am here is like there

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00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: are these diverse needs and they're all seemingly critical, right,

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Speaker 5: and we want to be able to utilize the resources

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Speaker 5: that we have and like our basically our core free

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Speaker 5: programs to address these these needs. And so much of

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Speaker 5: our pillars overlap, right because and we can talk a

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Speaker 5: little bit about this some of our different programs, but

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Speaker 5: you know, when we build kits, that's like our main

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00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 5: program right now, where we are focused on pulling essential

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Speaker 5: resources together and give them to different people in need.

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Speaker 5: I mean that touches racial justice, food injustice, environmental impacts

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00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 5: of injustice, and oftentimes we're coming in after natural disasters

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Speaker 5: to help support people, or we just did this building

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Speaker 5: kit in Houston to help with hurricane preparedness kids so

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Speaker 5: that they could be better prepared should that inevitable hurricane

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Speaker 5: come and hit that area. So I mean we see

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Speaker 5: such an overlap now. So I do feel we are

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Speaker 5: kind of keenly focused on core areas that we can

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Speaker 5: do the most impact in the other core programs are

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Speaker 5: Cause Evolved, and that's really what you're seeing with the podcast.

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00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 5: So we're utilizing our unique expertise to create really compelling storytelling,

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00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: and our hope is that we cut through the noise

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00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: and really capture attention and then inspire people to action.

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Speaker 5: So with this podcast, that's why it's really important that

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00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 5: we have these call to actions. We have the people

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00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 5: on the ground that are the true change makers on

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Speaker 5: the podcast to talk about their day to day activities,

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00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 5: because we know that no one tells a story better

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Speaker 5: than those people that are like the battle soldiers on

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Speaker 5: the ground doing this work day in and day out.

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Speaker 5: And the celebrity is the hook, right Like, it's not,

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00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 5: and it's different, right I think that we really have

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00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 5: been thoughtful with the different celebrity or talent that have

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Speaker 5: come on this show and that will continue to come

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Speaker 5: on that we want them to have a sincere connection

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00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 5: to truly care about the work. You know, it's more

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00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: than a tweet, although tweets are important, right Like, it

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00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 5: actually does draw a lot of attention those simple actions

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Speaker 5: because of your immense platform. But we've used six degrees

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Speaker 5: to you know, do format shows like this or play

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Speaker 5: on which was the music benefit we did. We raised

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Speaker 5: over seven million dollars for racial justice and food insecurity

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Speaker 5: back in twenty twenty. You know, at the you know,

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Speaker 5: basically what we thought was almost the end of the pandemic,

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Speaker 5: and it was really only just beginning at that point.

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Speaker 5: And then our third program, which is Degree Shift, and

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Speaker 5: that's been something that we've been doing for quite some time,

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Speaker 5: which is just being a convenor of these different campaigns together,

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Speaker 5: different stakeholders, different people of influence organizations, and we get everyone,

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Speaker 5: you know, with a single call to action and really

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Speaker 5: trying to maximize the impact of that by drawing attention

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00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 5: to a singular cause. And so most people probably will

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Speaker 5: know the campaign that we did I Stay Home For

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Speaker 5: and that was the beginning of twenty twenty when covid

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Speaker 5: had just really shook the whole world, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we call it kind of like a lightning and a

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Speaker 5: bottle time period because it was a pandemic. The entire

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Speaker 5: world was facing the same thing and we were all

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Speaker 5: being told to kind of shelter in place. And our

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Speaker 5: way of trying to support that was the campaign that

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Speaker 5: you launched via six degrees Kevin, asking people to share

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00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: a video or a photo simply saying who they're staying

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Speaker 5: home for. And the idea was to say, we're not

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Speaker 5: doing this for ourselves. Like you might be healthy, and

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Speaker 5: you might be young, and you may not have any

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00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: pre existing conditions, but you're staying home for your grandmother

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Speaker 5: or for your sister that you know has an autoimmune disease,

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Speaker 5: or so on and so forth. And through campaigns like that,

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Speaker 5: we've received lots of recognition and support from the community

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Speaker 5: through you know, Webbys and Shorty Impact Awards and Telly

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00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 5: Awards and those sorts of things, which which is all great.

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Speaker 5: That just lets us know that people believe that we're

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Speaker 5: on the right track here. But the idea is that

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Speaker 5: we build these campaigns that are really accessible for people

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Speaker 5: to do. They're also easy to replicate, so that people

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Speaker 5: can take ownership and make these campaigns their own and

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00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 5: spread messages and appeals to their own networks and try

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00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 5: to help further you know, the impact, and do good

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Speaker 5: in their own communities and neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: Cure, I don't I don't want to put you on

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Speaker 1: the spot, but do you remember any kind of six

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Speaker 1: degrees based the thing that you were involved with that

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Speaker 1: was memorable? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Remember that really great spoken word thing. Remind me a

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Speaker 3: little bit of.

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Speaker 5: That stacy we were That was a couple of years

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Speaker 5: that was in d C. Yeah, March for Our Lives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it was, that's right. Oh god, oh

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Speaker 3: it's hard to think. Yeah, right, exactly, it's it's it's

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Speaker 3: it's amazing because it was really I think it was

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Speaker 3: Marjorie Douglas High School had that horrific shooting and that

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Speaker 3: was the catalyst for March for Our Lives and it

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Speaker 3: was a you know, trying to bring attention to gun

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Speaker 3: violence in d C. And before the march, there was

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Speaker 3: a an event at a like.

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Speaker 2: A like a.

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Speaker 3: Venue where people did spoken word about their experience with

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Speaker 3: gun violence. And it was extraordinary and there were a

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Speaker 3: lot of young people there and it was I think

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Speaker 3: it was hosted by sixty degree and it was extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was You really could feel the need

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Speaker 3: that these kids had to share their experience in a

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Speaker 3: communal way and to have people be affected by it.

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Speaker 3: And it was it was incredible for everybody, for the

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Speaker 3: people that were watching and the people that were participating,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, you're really doing a great thing here,

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Speaker 3: you know, you guys, really you really really got your

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Speaker 3: finger on it. You know.

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Speaker 5: It kind of comes back to us really focusing on

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Speaker 5: amplifying voices with lived experiences, and that was an example

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Speaker 5: an event where it was actually just young people that

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Speaker 5: were asked to speak and share. And what Marjorie Douglas

893
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Speaker 5: did so well when they were the kind of the

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Speaker 5: catalysts for this March for Our Lives was enormous and

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Speaker 5: I remember, I mean it was palpable the pain that

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Speaker 5: you fell in the air from all these young people.

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Speaker 5: But also their intention about making a change and having

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Speaker 5: their voices heard is that they were inclusive in DC

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Speaker 5: the night before out of all the young you know,

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Speaker 5: inner city young people that experience gun violence all the time, right,

901
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: and it's in their neighborhoods and in their communities, and

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Speaker 5: they made space for that on on you know, during

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Speaker 5: the poetry event and and the day the next day

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Speaker 5: at the march. But I remember that I think that

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Speaker 5: was our first time meeting in person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And I just remember it being I mean, it is

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Speaker 5: one of those things that's a unifier because it was

908
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Speaker 5: very heavy, but but I think it's it's important, right,

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Speaker 5: It was like comfortable. It was very hard, a lot

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Speaker 5: of tears shed, but we show up and we look

911
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Speaker 5: at it because we walk through that privilege that we

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Speaker 5: don't you know, have those lived experiences all the time, right,

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Speaker 5: but we want to show up for those that do,

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Speaker 5: and we want to be an ally.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree. And I think being you know, not

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Speaker 3: afraid to look is a really important thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think because these things do exist in our lives

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Speaker 3: and they're happening all the time and they need to

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Speaker 3: be witnessed. So I think that having that was pretty

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Speaker 3: extraordinary for them and for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. It was a great night. We

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Speaker 1: have some special announcements scenes. This is Giving Tuesday of Stacey.

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Speaker 1: You do want to talk about what we have going

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Speaker 1: on here or any kind of call to action that

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Speaker 1: we can hit right now for six degrees dot Org.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, because we are still under this strike, I'm

927
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Speaker 5: gonna dance around this a bit. But you think that

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Speaker 5: I did that.

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Speaker 1: I see what you did there. Maybe by Given Tuesday

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Speaker 1: there won't be a strike.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe we can bleep it into the script. But

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Speaker 5: a certain dance film that has been synonymous with your career,

933
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Speaker 5: Kevin is turning forty, which, oh, how is that happening?

934
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Speaker 5: I don't It's like right twenty years ago, But somehow

935
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 5: the film has aged passed you. So it's a fortieth year,

936
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Speaker 5: which is amazing, and in celebration of that, six Degrees

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Speaker 5: is going to commit to.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I was, I was seven when I

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Speaker 1: made that film exactly.

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Speaker 3: It was amazing.

941
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Speaker 1: It was amazing. They aged me up a whole bunch.

942
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Speaker 1: It was sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt, go ahead.

943
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Speaker 5: AI was involved in the conversation then as well, apparently,

944
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Speaker 5: but no, I, it's as we're going to build forty

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Speaker 5: thousand kits for the essential care items across the entire country.

946
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Speaker 5: So that's our commitment at six trees dot org. We're

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Speaker 5: going to be partnering with our network of community partners

948
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Speaker 5: across the whole country. And what's really special about the

949
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Speaker 5: forty thousand kis it's people might say like, okay, like

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Speaker 5: you know, sure there are hygiene items and books and

951
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 5: you know, shampoo conditioner, Like what does that really do

952
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 5: in the longevity of this partnership. But we've been running

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Speaker 5: this program now for six months, and we've been working

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Speaker 5: with nonprofits at the grassroots level for a lot longer

955
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Speaker 5: than that, and what we find is that, you know,

956
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Speaker 5: it's the best way to put it. This way, you

957
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: walk into target and if you want to buy house

958
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: targets and to say I'm sorry, like we don't sell

959
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 5: you houses, right, But when you're a constituent and you

960
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 5: walk into a nonprofit and you might be there because

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Speaker 5: it's a food bank and you're hungry, but guess what,

962
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Speaker 5: you also need clothes, you might need job services, you

963
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 5: might need housing. When you're in this type of purpose

964
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: driven work, you don't just turn people away. You exhaust

965
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 5: your resources and your efforts and your bandwidth trying to

966
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 5: either you know, turn someone to another organization that you

967
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 5: create a partnership with or it's local in the community,

968
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 5: or you open up your pockets and you provide them

969
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Speaker 5: with what they need in the moment. And so what

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Speaker 5: we're doing at six degrees is providing these essential kits,

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00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 5: really talking to the nonprofits on the ground what they need,

972
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 5: what they're being asked for, providing these items to those

973
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Speaker 5: organizations so that they can focus on their core programs.

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Speaker 5: So this is a way that we can serve them,

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Speaker 5: help with their bandwidth and their resources and get them

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Speaker 5: focused on what they're doing day to day to really

977
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 5: make an impact in a greater way. So we're very,

978
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Speaker 5: very excited about.

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Speaker 1: That we stopped three three hundred backpacks the other day

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Speaker 1: down in DC.

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 5: It was it was awesome.

983
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Speaker 1: It was awesome.

984
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And that was a perfect example of like

985
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: community organization coming together and local people that live in

986
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 5: the area just stopping by and helping us with stuffing

987
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 5: these backpacks and then getting them directly to a great

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00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: organization that helps families and transition.

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Speaker 1: So it's in a.

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Speaker 5: Look that way, and it's going to cover kind of

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: all of our different core pillars. And to officially launch

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00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: us for Giving Tuesday, we have a fantastic partner which

993
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 5: is Bonfire, and they are committing to twenty five thousand

994
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 5: dollars in matching gifts. So if you text the word

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00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 5: Bacon to seven zero seven zero seven zero, you can

996
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 5: make a gift today and your gift is doubled, and

997
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: it'll go on throughout the whole month into December. But

998
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: it's going to be this kind of initial appeal for

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four and Bonfire is a really important partner

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00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 5: for us. Bonfire has been a partner that we've worked

1001
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 5: with lots of times, and in fact, you and Kira

1002
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 5: have worn their shirts several times. So when we just

1003
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: did the Dragon is an art campaign people are listing,

1004
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 5: saw this little dynamic duo do a Taylor Swift dance

1005
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 5: with these really cool, beautifully designed T shirts. We did

1006
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 5: that with Bonfire, and it was an apparel campaign where

1007
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 5: we raised over fifty five thousand dollars and forty eight

1008
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: hours for ACLU and their Drag Defense fun which was

1009
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 5: really supporting lots of anti LGBTQ legislation fights that were

1010
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 5: all over the country. And we felt the need to

1011
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 5: stand up and exercise our voice. And you two stepped

1012
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 5: up and did we have the shirt? And you definitely

1013
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 5: did right, and you know, and with that we obviously

1014
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 5: did a great deal of good. But we also created

1015
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 5: these like walking billboards everywhere. And the great thing about

1016
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 5: Bonfire is like they're free to use. They take care

1017
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 5: of all the customers service for us, so we didn't

1018
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 5: have to really worry about our limited bandwidth or logistics.

1019
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: When it comes to fulfilling these products, it comes through

1020
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 5: as a donation for the organization, so that's a wonderful gift.

1021
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 5: People can also donate when they buy items. It's not

1022
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 5: just T shirts. We did coffee cups right now and

1023
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 5: toats and lots of different things that people can wear

1024
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 5: to help spread a message, right, and so Bonfire is

1025
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 5: open to the public. They can partner with them and

1026
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 5: they can put these beautiful campaigns that helped them to

1027
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 5: raise money, read a message, do a lot of good.

1028
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: They've been fantastic work to work with. We're just so excited,

1029
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 5: but really just a great, great support to the nonprofit community.

1030
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 5: And so they are a partner for this. We couldn't

1031
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 5: be more grateful because that's what it takes. It takes

1032
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 5: corporate partners stepping up and supporting us in this in

1033
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 5: this fight to the you know, spread good, spread kindness,

1034
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: build these kits, do social impact productions like this. It

1035
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 5: really takes a village. So we're grateful for hours. And

1036
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 5: today we are super excited because we're launching a special

1037
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 5: addition T shirt from your signature dance movie, Kevin. So

1038
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: if listeners go to bonfire dot com forward slash Kevin,

1039
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 5: they're going to see a super cool T shirt that

1040
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: we designed and got license and all that fun stuff

1041
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 5: so that we can raise money for all the programs

1042
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 5: that we talked about here today. And there's so many

1043
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 5: ways that Bonfire supports nonprofits and other individuals and change

1044
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 5: makers that are doing a world of good. So we

1045
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 5: have some really specific call to actions and they're easy, right, Like,

1046
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 5: mainly could share this podcast and you know, follow us

1047
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 5: along on all of our social media channels. All the

1048
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: links will be in the show notes. But really, following

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01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 5: and engaging in content for nonprofits does a whole lot

1050
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 5: of good. Obviously, it helps us cast a much bigger net,

1051
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 5: increases our reach and therefore our impact. So we'd love

1052
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 5: to hear from you, guys, Hear what you're liking about

1053
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 5: the show, about the work that we're doing, and if

1054
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 5: you're so inclined, please join us as we fundraise to

1055
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 5: build all of these essential care kits by texting Bacon

1056
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 5: B A C N to seven zero seven zero seven zero.

1057
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Stacy, you rock, You really do

1058
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: so hard amazing. I'm so grateful to have you with

1059
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: six degrees and yeah, it's the best. It's the best

1060
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: means and also to know you and your beautiful, two

1061
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: beautiful little girls and your fantastic husband. Yes, we're thrilled

1062
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: to have you as as our friends and hire. I'm

1063
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: very happy to have you as my friend too.

1064
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very much, thanks for asking me

1065
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: to come. It's amazing. It's an honor, really, it really is.

1066
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: You guys are incredible and six degrees is incredible. I'm

1067
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: so proud of you guys and what you've accomplished and

1068
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: what you continue to do with that podcast. I think

1069
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: it's really something special. So I feel lucky to have

1070
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: been a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Kia, and come back anytime. Kay,

1072
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Let's dat some more love you guys, Thanks for being here. Hey, guys,

1073
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: thanks for listening to another episode of six Degrees with

1074
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon. And if you want to learn more about

1075
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: six degrees dot org and all the work that we

1076
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: are up to, you can head to six degrees dot org,

1077
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: reach out to Stacy on our social platforms, get connected,

1078
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: get involved. You can find all those links in our

1079
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: show notes, and if you like what you're hearing, subscribe

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01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: to the show and tune in to the rest of

1081
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: our episodes. You can find six Degrees with Kevin Bacon

1082
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.