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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Thursday, April third, twenty twenty five. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're splaying on handhelds versus consoles.

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Speaker 1: It's me and your man, nam G Marcus Grand joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. I know we

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Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit before the show fellas

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Speaker 1: either of you saving up to get a a switch

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Speaker 1: to that comes out soon? Nah, you got you boy?

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Speaker 2: Got that will deplete the account.

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Speaker 1: I am so good.

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Speaker 3: I wore the Super Mario shirt. I'm probably I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I'll get it immediately, but yeah, Nikolette loves

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Speaker 3: playing the Switch. We play like Mari Kart together and stuff,

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Speaker 3: so they're new. That's the first game that's coming out,

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Speaker 3: so I probably yeah.

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Speaker 1: I you know, so I got a Switch. It was

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Speaker 1: a Valentine's Day gift from my wife, and like, for

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Speaker 1: the first month six weeks or so, like, I played

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Speaker 1: at the least of anybody in the house. Recently, I've

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Speaker 1: sort of pulled rank because I bought MLB the show

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Speaker 1: twenty five and I'm like, yeah, no, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: build my franchise up. So you know, it's Dad's turned

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Speaker 1: to play. Basically, there was a conversation about whether I

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Speaker 1: would get a switch to, and I'm kind of like

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Speaker 1: when I saw the price tag, like, we can wait

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Speaker 1: a minute. We're fine for now.

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Speaker 2: A month of groceries or no groceries, just.

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Speaker 1: Like a week of groceries. Man, Like, what what are you.

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Speaker 3: Doing after today that day of groceries?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. So I'm sure what I have a

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Speaker 1: football game? Right? Well, does Madden exist for the switch?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't think it does. Does it.

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Speaker 2: I think when I back when I had my switch

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Speaker 2: and it didn't get taken over by my son as well,

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Speaker 2: it was Madden switch game on.

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Speaker 1: There all right? Yeah, actually it is.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Honestly, FIFA FIFA video

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Speaker 1: game is always fun, like all the versions doesn't have

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Speaker 1: been really fun, so that should be that should be cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like googling and I said Madden switch and

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Speaker 1: immediately popped up switch to, So I guess it is

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Speaker 1: work switch. Yeah. The other part of that, our colleague

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Speaker 1: Scott Hansen is gonna be the new in game voice

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Speaker 1: for the upcoming Madden So seven hours of commercial free

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Speaker 1: video game football start now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure every.

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Speaker 3: Sports quarter is gonna be called the Witching Hour.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really well, yes, yeah, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the Witching Hour show up there when wins become losses,

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Speaker 1: losses become wins, to all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I haven't heard that in four months.

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Speaker 1: A new voice, a new old voice, a new familiar voice.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you buy Madden coming up in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, so yeah, it should be or twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is twenty six. I think it comes

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Speaker 1: out in twenty five. They call it twenty six. I

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Speaker 1: think that's how it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there it is. Twenty five. Just came out last year,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, right right, we'll get all our days and

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Speaker 1: our years all straightened out in just a bit, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a lighter show. Today, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through the tight end portion of the NFL Draft. Just

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Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain here. Running back, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: very deep positions. Felt like they deserved two shows a piece.

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Speaker 1: Didn't necessarily want to split it up over a Thursday

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Speaker 1: and then carry it over to next week. So we'll

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Speaker 1: do tight ends today. Next week we will have running

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Speaker 1: backs in two weeks, we will do wide receivers. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we are tenatively scheduled to have our friend Matt Harmon

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Speaker 1: come on. He have reception perception to talk about the

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Speaker 1: wide receivers for one of those two shows. And so

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Speaker 1: we're for a few other guests that you may or

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Speaker 1: may not have heard on this show before, but to

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Speaker 1: help us out with some of our draft previews as well.

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Speaker 1: So we'll dive into tight ends. Admittedly it's not a

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Speaker 1: super deep position at least when it comes to fantasy relevance,

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Speaker 1: but we'll try to pick apart some of the guys

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Speaker 1: here that could end up making an impact for your

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Speaker 1: fantasy team, maybe this year, maybe in the year or two,

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Speaker 1: so we'll figure that out. We do have the update

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Speaker 1: on our rookie QB bracket. Lakwan, have you have you

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Speaker 1: gotten over?

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Speaker 2: No comment? No, I'm still in the comments defending bow

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Speaker 2: because I'm a Bowl leiever. But you know, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: I think people will just misunderstood of the bracket. So

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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, cool, now what was at his birthday party?

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Speaker 1: That's that's what bonexx Boa callahan same guy apparently, Lakwan,

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Speaker 1: you get that reference now because you're seeing Draft Day.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, we will go through the next round of

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Speaker 1: the QB bracket. In fact, we are down to the

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Speaker 1: championship matchup, which I think is going to be incredibly

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Speaker 1: entertaining at least to watch the numbers slowly go up

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Speaker 1: on the online poll that we're going to put out.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that in a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: a couple of news headlines. Admittedly this is a slower

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Speaker 1: part of the NFL calendar, but a couple of things

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Speaker 1: sort of worth diving into here. First one being in Denver,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton says he believes Evan Ingram can fill the

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Speaker 1: joker role in the Broncos offense. So I guess that

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Speaker 1: means he's sort of the nude say some hill I guess,

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Speaker 1: I mean Florio one, Are you buying it? In two?

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Speaker 1: Does that mean you're gonna suddenly buy into Evan Ingram

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Speaker 1: again in Denver? No, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I could be bought into Evan Ingram at the right cost,

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Speaker 3: like if he is a borderline tight end one, sure

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Speaker 3: I could get excited for that, because he could be

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Speaker 3: the number two target behind Courtland Sutton. But every single

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Speaker 3: offseason we hear that a new player is going to

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Speaker 3: gets excited and it leads to no good like remember

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Speaker 3: it was gonna be Cordero Patterson with the Steelers and

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Speaker 3: forget who else, Like there's been a bunch of times

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Speaker 3: where we've heard this. All this means is that you're

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Speaker 1: That's what I take.

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Speaker 3: My takeaway is, but Evan Ingram is good enough to

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Speaker 3: be your every down tight end one, just please leave

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Speaker 2: Look if you want to give him.

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Speaker 3: A couple of cool touches where you let him do

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Speaker 3: a couple of different things here and there, sure that

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Speaker 3: doesn't hurt. But when you try to make a player

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Speaker 1: Or even a Taysom Hill type build. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: to try to slot him into that role seems a

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Speaker 1: does want to get a tight end involved. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we saw those years in New Orleans. Aside from the

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Speaker 1: thought maybe it would happen again in Denver. I admit

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Speaker 1: I was a Greg Dulcic guy that doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: Adam Troutman in to try to make him a thing

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Speaker 1: that hasn't really happened. But we have seen Evan Ingram

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get crazy with it. But maybe we

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Speaker 2: Maybe only because that, you know, Evan Ingram coming from Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: he put on good tape, He had great numbers. You know,

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Speaker 2: even in the nine games that he had last season,

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Speaker 2: you know, he still was being able to have some

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Speaker 2: So it's one of those things like, Okay, he still

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Speaker 2: Payton goes out and gets his guy. This should be

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Speaker 2: the tight end for him because last season neither one

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Speaker 2: of those tight ends on that roster. It had over

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Speaker 2: two hundred yards. Really disgusting work there when you look

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Speaker 2: at it, so obviously there is a need for a

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Speaker 2: tight end and you go out and get it Evan Ingram,

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Speaker 2: which I think he could still produce even though he's

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Speaker 2: a thirty year old tight end. It's fine. He's still

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Speaker 2: able to go out there and run routes does show

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Speaker 2: still able to be the overall tight end with the

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Speaker 2: perfect balance that he has been in Jacksonville. It's just

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Speaker 2: a matter is Sean Payton telling the truth? Is he

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Speaker 2: going to rotate to Adam Troutman. Is he going to

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Speaker 2: is that even a real person. It's one of those

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Speaker 2: things that I can't trust in fantasy, especially if his

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Speaker 2: I will be a little hesitant because I cannot trust

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: When you said can we trust him? Did we all

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Speaker 1: just say Marvin Mems. Did we all did? Did the

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Speaker 1: name Marvin Mims just pop into everybody's head at that moment?

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Speaker 2: It was Marvin Mims estimate. Like, the list goes on

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Speaker 2: of just the lies after lies.

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Speaker 1: So here's my favorite one. I googled this. Uh.

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Speaker 3: From on NFL dot Com June one, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's vision for tight end great Doltchick could potentially

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Speaker 3: be beyond just playing tight end and taking on the

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Speaker 3: joker position. This isn't even the first time he's lied

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Speaker 3: about using a tight end this way.

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Speaker 1: So basically, basically any side end is the joker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, insanity.

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Speaker 3: If I'm Evan Ingram, I'm showing up dressed like Keith

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Speaker 3: Ledger to training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's wild. That would be amazingly amazing. I mean that

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Speaker 1: is sort of wild, and that you're able to kind

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Speaker 1: of dig that up right. It's it's sort of like

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Speaker 1: any past catching running back that played for Ron Rivera

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Speaker 1: was Christian McCaffrey. Anybody any running back who could even

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera's like, yeah, we can use him as a

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey type. I was like, you can't no.

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Speaker 3: Anyone receiver that could run after the catch all you hear, Oh, well,

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Speaker 3: this guy's like Deebo sam.

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Speaker 1: He's Deebo Samuel. We got to be better than this, right,

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Speaker 1: we got to be smarter than this that it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily work that way. But and I'll throw this out,

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Speaker 1: I think what does work in Evan Ingram's favor? Forget

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Speaker 1: all this joker stuff, right, I'm I'm not buying into that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that. I

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Speaker 1: think you know, suddenly we're gonna see the Broncos running

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Speaker 1: wildcat with Evan Ingram at the goal line. Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not anticipating that. But what I do think works for

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Speaker 1: him is the fact that beyond Cortland Sutton, who gets

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Speaker 1: targets in this offense? Yeah yeah, right, who gets targets

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Speaker 1: in the office. Suddon we know is gonna get his.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Mims is like Schrodinger's cat. He either is or

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Speaker 1: isn't alive depending on the day. And what Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: feels like, Luk, And I know you liked Von Vale

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Speaker 1: and look he had some moments last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deny that he had some moments last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that he is that heavy of a

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Speaker 2: because he's not going to be a focal point in

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Speaker 2: like this is just how Champagne operates, Like, I just

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he ends up in Denver, he's going

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Speaker 1: Opportunity please for a long Yeah, I think we would

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Speaker 2: Every day, every morning you see him. Make it like

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Speaker 2: fifty first dates, the.

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Speaker 2: Anything, make him fall in love with you until he

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Speaker 1: When I woke up this morning, I didn't think we

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Speaker 3: He was on pace for almost twelve hundred yards, Like,

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Speaker 3: just give him an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you at least until we see that happen,

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Speaker 1: for Evan Ingram. Top eight tight end potentially is that

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So I won't I won't.

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Speaker 3: Raft him that high, but I think he can finish

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I see something. I don't think the asking

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be people who in this summer are like, no,

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Speaker 3: he can't finish top eight, and we do this yearly,

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Speaker 3: right outside of the Kwan, no one thought John new

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Speaker 3: Smith was gonna do what he like, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you talk about that big season he

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Speaker 3: Zach Ertz was the top eight tight end, Patri was

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Speaker 2: No, I don't even remember him playing or catching a ball.

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Speaker 1: That's because, as Najee Harris told us, the Steelers didn't

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Speaker 2: hates the tight end position. Yeah, apparently, apparently it's not

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He hates the starter. Let's just put that clear. He

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Speaker 1: Man. I go back to twenty seventeen when Jason Witten

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Speaker 2: Catch eleven, right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So, right, it's gonna be interesting to watch sort of

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Speaker 1: I know. It seems kind of fun, right, Like we

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Speaker 2: love to see football out there, you know, competing for

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Speaker 2: creative he could be. Because flag football, man, like, there

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Speaker 2: you know, and you can't really tackle them to take

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Speaker 2: you could just show how competitive you could be. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea. I think it would

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Speaker 1: I am forget the you know, obviously there's the the

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Speaker 1: he misses the season because he's playing flag football. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to it feels like, though flag football is very different

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Speaker 3: And it seemed like I love like Olympic basketball is

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Speaker 3: Classic plays under regular rules. The FEBA rules are slightly different,

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Speaker 3: you know, flag football, like Laquon I've played it. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The other part of this is for me in

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Speaker 1: country the way he does linebackers on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: But like we've seen Lamar Jackson be a star, like

437
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Speaker 1: I do kind of want other people to get a

438
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Speaker 1: chance to.

439
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Speaker 2: Be to that point. Like even the international players that

440
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: we have in the NFL, they would go represent their

441
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Speaker 2: countries for the other teams, Like that would be super

442
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Speaker 2: cool to see. Like I would love to see like

443
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 2: some of the guys that are just backups or you know,

444
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: on the practice squad have the opportunity to start and

445
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 2: play for their country, because I feel like that pride,

446
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Speaker 2: Like if I can go out there and represent my

447
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: country and I'm putting on and I beat Patrick Mahomes,

448
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: like yeah, we won the Olympic. Go to over your

449
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and then go back to the States with

450
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Speaker 2: that medal and kind of celebrate and be braggadoses about it,

451
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Speaker 2: Like I think that'll be a cool experience for somebody.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jaam Johnson, friend of the show, you can represent

453
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: Germany playing for Germany.

454
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Speaker 1: I'm like I was like trying to like dig up

455
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Speaker 1: like at the backup for the Chiefs.

456
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Speaker 2: I think he was the first Nigerian quarterback that had

457
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to start for a team. But I forget

458
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Speaker 2: his name. It's like Chadwick Zeon. I'm like blanking right now.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, would like would like Jimmy Garoppolo play for Italy.

460
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Speaker 3: Anything like the World Baseball Classic where Italy is like,

461
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Speaker 3: if your name end's inn a Val, come play. Brandon

462
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Speaker 3: Nimmo playing who's born and raised in Wisconsin.

463
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Speaker 1: They got a little bit laxed with that in the

464
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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic where it was almost like if you've

465
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Speaker 1: ever eaten that an Italian restaurant, like you can come

466
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Speaker 1: play with us or something like that.

467
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Speaker 2: Mariolly almost didn't play for Italy, but he was a

468
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Speaker 2: resident adopted so he was able to play. They made

469
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Speaker 2: it a whole big thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you know, Joel Embiid has like three

471
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Speaker 1: different countries he could possibly play.

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Speaker 3: Davin already came through with it. Italy's quarterback is Tommy Davite.

473
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, make the shirts right now.

474
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Speaker 1: Tommy Cutlet's playing for Italy in flag football twenty eight Olympics.

475
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Speaker 2: Put off a big jersey.

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Speaker 1: My guys, Tommy Cutlet's out here slaying it for Italy. Wow.

477
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Speaker 1: Love that. We're gonn take a breaking back. We'll talk

478
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Speaker 1: some tight ends. Uh. There are a couple of names

479
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Speaker 1: that I think everybody's going to be looking for in

480
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Speaker 1: drafts this year. But there are a few other names

481
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: that maybe if you want to dig a little bit deeper,

482
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Speaker 1: you a little bit of a sicko you play like

483
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: a dynasty league or something like that, you might want

484
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Speaker 1: to know as well. So we'll talk a little bit

485
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Speaker 1: about that. Coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna dive into some tight end prospects for the

487
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Speaker 1: draft coming up in a few weeks. About three weeks

488
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Speaker 1: actually from today, is when the NFL Draft kicks off

489
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Look, I mean, let's let's just

490
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: keep it a buck here, right. The narrative for mini

491
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: many years was that rookie tight ends don't produce in fantasy.

492
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Speaker 1: That's sort of been blown up at least the last

493
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Speaker 1: couple of seasons. Last year it was brock Bauers having

494
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Speaker 1: a phenomenal year. The year before that, it was Sam

495
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: Laporta doing big things. So it is possible that it

496
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Speaker 1: could happen. I think it's also fair to say, though, guys,

497
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Speaker 1: that there aren't a lot of rookie tight ends who

498
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: are relevant in fantasy. Right that we get one, But

499
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Speaker 1: that's kind of it. I'm two, you're almost pushing he

500
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: was kind of pushing it. But I did break it down.

501
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: I got a handful of guys here, and I broke

502
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Speaker 1: them down into tears. Tier one is an easy one.

503
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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland. I have been on record multiple

504
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Speaker 1: times on this show saying that Tyler Warren is the

505
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Speaker 1: guy that I would like to target in drafts. I

506
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Speaker 1: get the feeling, Florio, because you know, we drafted other

507
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Speaker 1: people who do this, other people who spend a lot

508
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Speaker 1: of time on this. Is the asking price for Tyler

509
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Warren going to be more than I'm willing to pay

510
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: this summer.

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Speaker 3: Are you willing to draft him top ten?

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I can draft him top ten, then you do that.

513
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna go top five because I

514
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: think the top five is pretty set with like you

515
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: have Bowers and McBride at the top.

516
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Speaker 1: I think like the Porter will go.

517
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Speaker 3: Ahead of him, Kittle, you got Andrews or Hockinson, depending

518
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: on how you feel about them. But after those guys

519
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: are off the board, I think Warren is it could

520
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: be the next one up, depending on where he lands, because,

521
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Speaker 3: like you said, the top tight end in recent years

522
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: has always has been a little bit more fantasy friendly,

523
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Speaker 3: but I think it's more than that. Like you you

524
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: watch Tyler Warren play and you're like, Yeah, this guy

525
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Speaker 3: can one. He's built like a house, Like, he's got

526
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Speaker 3: the size to play in the NFL, the athleticism, he

527
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Speaker 3: can move, he's got good hands. Like when I was

528
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Speaker 3: watching him, I always just write a player that I'm

529
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Speaker 3: reminded of, and I watch him and I wrote Greg

530
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Speaker 3: Olsen's name down, But then I also wrote, he's like

531
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Speaker 3: George Kittle if George.

532
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Speaker 1: Kittle was gronk size, which kind.

533
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Speaker 3: Of tell you how Like, I don't think he's gonna

534
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: be like a like a field stretcher or anything like that.

535
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Speaker 3: Like Kittle can be at times, but he can win

536
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: in the intermediate occasionally deep.

537
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Speaker 1: But this guy's going to be a yack monster in

538
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Looking at lancer lines comp for him because

539
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Speaker 1: the way you described me, right, you said George Kittle

540
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: if he was gronk size, Lancer line has Jeremy Shockey,

541
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Speaker 1: which I think sort of fits, which sort of fits right,

542
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: an athletic tight end, I'm, you know, who can contribute

543
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Speaker 1: to the running game. But his biggest value is going

544
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Speaker 1: to be as a pass catcher, because he was a

545
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Speaker 1: lot of times, if not the entire offense for Penn State,

546
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Speaker 1: a really good trunk of at least the passing game.

547
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Speaker 1: He was a big part of of what Penn State

548
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Speaker 1: did this past year. I mean, so ok, I have

549
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: been the person who the last few years has decided

550
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna go out and I'm gonna I'm

551
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Speaker 1: gonna take a tight end early, right, I'm gonna get

552
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: one of the top five guys because I just don't

553
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: want to have to deal with it. But is Tyler

554
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: Warren the guy to make me change my mind?

555
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: It could be, but just have your expectations, you know,

556
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: a little bit hesitant based on landing spot and honestly,

557
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: like I appreciate his versatility. He could throw the ball,

558
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: wildcat and all that stuff we like. To be real,

559
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: we might not see none of that. We might flash,

560
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: you know, one game out of the season, but that's

561
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Speaker 2: not what he's gonna probably be doing in the NFL.

562
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Speaker 2: It's more so you appreciated about him, like he's a

563
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: very balanced tight end. So more so the landing spot

564
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: will have to matter a ton before I take him

565
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: off the board for any draft this summer. Like, honestly,

566
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Speaker 2: he going to the Saints. I would like that. I

567
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: will understand that he will be a focal point. They

568
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: need help his pass catchers, Chris o Lave. He's dealt

569
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: with some injuries in the past. He's in the saturl

570
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: distent and discontentscontent.

571
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's in there.

572
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: He's trying to get out. But more so, he needs

573
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: to be a focal point in the offense for me

574
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: to take him off the board. Where he's going to

575
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: go after the Hawks, after the Andrews and stuff, because

576
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: these are proven guys. So he could change your mind.

577
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: Because if he goes somewhere he could be a focal

578
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: point and have a high target share. Then I'm bumping

579
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Speaker 2: them over Hawk, I'm bumping them over Andrews. I'm bumping

580
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: up even maybe over Kittle, just going, just going into

581
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: this summer.

582
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Speaker 1: Talk about him throwing the football. Could he be a joker?

583
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: Don't you put that on him?

584
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: No? Would he go to Denver and be a joker?

585
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: Maybe?

586
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Please don't do that. No, I'd rather him go to

587
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: the Jets. Let me put it like that. Jets have

588
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: the opportunity to snag him off the board as well.

589
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: They do, and the Jets have not had a feasible

590
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: fantasy tight end in my life. I remember, I'm not

591
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: even saying that like as an exaggeration. They have not

592
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: really ever had a notable fantasy tight end in my

593
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: years on this earth. They have just, for the most part,

594
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: punted on the position. Yeah, good stretcher, they really are.

595
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: They really just kind of punted on the position for

596
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: a good stretch of it. I was gonna suggest, I

597
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: don't know if there's enough targets there. I'm gonna suggest

598
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: him going to the rams, but one he's not going

599
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: to be available. He'll be going before then.

600
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Speaker 2: The other guy might be there.

601
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Well, we can see the other guy in just a sec

602
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean so, I mean flora is is is he

603
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: a canvas regardless of landing spot or is he going

604
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: to be dependent on who drafts him to be relevant

605
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: in that first year.

606
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Speaker 3: I think he will be relevant in year one regardless

607
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: of where he goes. I think the landing spot will

608
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: determine how relevant. Like is he a weekly streaming type

609
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: or is he an every week starter? Like I don't

610
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: see him being someone that's just on waivers all year

611
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: because we can't use him, Like he's far too good

612
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: for that. I think and like, if you put him

613
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: in the right spot, he could be getting drafted well

614
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Speaker 3: within the top ten. If you put him in a

615
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 3: spot where it's very crowded or something like that. I

616
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Speaker 3: still think I think it'll be something similar to what

617
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Speaker 3: like brock Bowers was last year, because remember we were like,

618
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: he's behind Devontae Adams, they have Jakobe Meyers, Michael Mayer's there,

619
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Speaker 3: and that led to Bowers being drafted as like a

620
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Speaker 3: more of a high end tight end two. But he

621
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: was still drafted in most leagues. So I think worst

622
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: case scenario for Warren is something like that.

623
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still I mean, I'm glad brock Bowers worked out.

624
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: It still makes me a little bit sad because I

625
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: thought Michael Mayer really did the ratings just take Warren

626
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: at six. Well, but they can't because they're gonna take

627
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Ashton Jenz said, just a whole tight, whole tight end offense,

628
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: the all tight end offense there for.

629
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Speaker 2: The mean the Rams will take Michael Mayer and make

630
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: the trade.

631
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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

632
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: Here's here's a wild one for you guys.

633
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: What's that the Panthers at eight. I was just about

634
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Speaker 1: to say that, I'm like looking, I was like, how

635
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: much do you guys love Jatavian Sanders, Like, how much

636
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: do you believe in Jatavian Sanders? Because if not, I

637
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: like them.

638
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: I like Sanders, but move over.

639
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: He would be the.

640
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: Number one target there.

641
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: He would be the number one target there and it's

642
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: up for grabs.

643
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: But man, I would hate that for him. I would

644
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: hate that for Jalen Coker. I would hate that for

645
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: Xavier Leaguet, like, I don't do that, Panthers, Please don't

646
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: do that. You'll mess up everything.

647
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Don't do that. The other spot that could be interesting

648
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't think they're gonna do it

649
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: just because they have so many more needs would be Jacksonville, Yeah,

650
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: having moved on from Evan Ingram. Five is high for

651
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: tight end unless you yeah, I just I don't. I

652
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: don't see them making that move at five. It doesn't

653
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: necessarily make sense for them. I think they trade down,

654
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: But in terms of you know what it would mean

655
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: to the offense, I think it's a good fit.

656
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: The Colts are another team I've heard rumored like tied

657
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: to them because they've been searching for a tight end

658
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: for like eight years now.

659
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: Moiley Cox has gone and that never really worked out.

660
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: We're not doing that. I know there's I know there's

661
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: like a Moiley Cox hive on their social media. Was

662
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: that part of it? Who are who are the two

663
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: tight Ens?

664
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: Dwayne Allen, Kobe Fleener right.

665
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Like excited, Hey, hey, hey, put some respect on Jack

666
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: Doyle's name.

667
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: All right, Jack Doyle?

668
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Wow, with some respect on Jack Doyle's now like two years,

669
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: two seasons where like Jack Doyle was kind of a thing,

670
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: especially if you streamed tight ends. There was there were

671
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: the Jack Doyle years there.

672
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: So let's Eric was wild.

673
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: But the other guy in tier one and you alluded

674
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: to him already, Colston Loveland. And look the thing about

675
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: Colston Loveland one, it's it's his talent too, It's it's

676
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: the school he went to, right, Because we have gotten

677
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: in a mode where recently tightened prospects from Michigan and

678
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: or Iowa tend to draw our attention because those guys

679
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: have had instant success in recent years. Lancer lines calm

680
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: for him is Sam Laporta. Speaking of guys who went

681
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: to Iowa, Lakwan, you were sort of hinting at this,

682
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: could he be a fit in Sean mcvay's offense, but

683
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: also are are there enough targets for him in that

684
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: offense now that Devonte Adams is in town?

685
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: So that's like a perfect spot that I've been seeing

686
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: him go at twenty six if he's there. Honestly, I'm

687
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: actually not in love with Loveland. I actually rather we

688
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: pivot in way later for another tight end that we're

689
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 2: going to probably talk about. But Loveland just has size.

690
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Man.

691
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: To me, he's a big target and if he gets

692
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: utilized properly, he could fit in a McVeigh offense. He

693
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: could fit in another offense like the Titans or maybe

694
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. But it's more so like that landing

695
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: spot is going to be definitely important as well, where

696
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: he goes, where you'll be taking him off draft boards.

697
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't see him as like as close as everybody

698
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: has him as Tyler Warren. There's a huge gap there

699
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: for me personally. I feel as though like his landing

700
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: spot is going to be very dependent on his NFL career.

701
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: We might be waiting for like a year two, year

702
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: three breakout for him because he might end up in

703
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: a situation where he's going to be sharing that role

704
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: with somebody.

705
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: If if we're talking about maybe a landing spot, what

706
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: about we pay him with be their boy Florio Jaden

707
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Daniels in Washington.

708
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: We could do that. I mean, he needs another target

709
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: there he could learn from. He would be the like

710
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: the fourth tight end to get buried behind zach Ertz

711
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: and zach Ertz's career.

712
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, how much longer can this happen? Like you

713
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: can't keep getting away with this?

714
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: How much longer can zach Ertz he was supposed last

715
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: season be sent it?

716
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: So? Like? I like, I wanted to believe in Ben

717
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: Senate as like a deep sleeper, but I don't know,

718
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: he might just end up being more of a kind

719
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: of a blocking HVAC sort of guy.

720
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do agree with you, l Q, though I

721
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't have Lovelin in this same grouping as Warren

722
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: like to.

723
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Me, there's a clear gap there.

724
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: Pat Friarnmuth was the name I wrote, which, look far

725
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: is a very good tight end at the NFL level,

726
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: but he's not elite and that's kind of what I

727
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: think Lovelin could be. How about we just twenty two

728
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: to the Chargers, let him play with his college coach,

729
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: like I yes, yeah, they needed they need another pass catcher.

730
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean I just immediately just thought, well you said that.

731
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like, oh, it's just like it'd be like

732
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: bringing Hunter Henry back the Gangs. I say that in

733
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: the sense of like I had such high expectations for

734
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry and they just never He's just never quite

735
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: reached him. He's been good, bordering on very good for stretches,

736
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: but he just never really all came together tight End

737
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: twelve from this past season case in point I wire.

738
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: For most of the season, you just validated everything I

739
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: just said about about Hunter Henry. We're like, yeah, it

740
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: was good, probably could have been better. It's just kind

741
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: of been the story of his career. And I feel like,

742
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's maybe that's just the nature

743
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: of Chargers tight ends, right, because Jerald Everett was sort

744
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: of that too, Right, It's good at times, probably could

745
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: have been.

746
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: Better overall, you never really fully got the keys.

747
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess, you know, and then last year

748
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: really just not being a factor at all in Chicago

749
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: of Everett. So I mean I answer it with you.

750
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we could have dropped Loveland down to

751
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: Tier two, which you know, seems like a good way

752
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: to transition into Tier two. You know, I look, man,

753
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: all the transitions aren't going to be great here. You

754
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: just got to roll with what you get. Sometimes, Mason

755
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: Taylor out a lot of lsu No granted, I think

756
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: in tier two, right, you got Mason Taylor, I got

757
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Harold Fann in junior. These are guys that are not

758
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be fantasy relevant in re draft leagues.

759
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Not this year, maybe in a couple of years. I

760
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Lakwan, does one stand out over the other?

761
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 1: You said, there's a guy that maybe you think sort

762
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: of fits somewhere. I mean, which which one of the guys?

763
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: Is it one of these two guys that you like?

764
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: It could be both. Now here's my take on it.

765
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Mason Taylor. He gives me like Tyler Higbee vibes, where

766
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 2: he will be good in real life football, but won't

767
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: be a reliable fantasy source, you know in the year one,

768
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: Like he just won't be a guy that you can

769
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: depend on, Like he has some of the great qualities

770
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: of a tight end, but a lot of him is

771
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: just rolling out red zone presence. That's about it. Try

772
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: to pin that to one week. Good luck now with

773
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: Harrow Fan and Junior, Like a lot of people knock

774
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: him because of his incredible stats, at him breaking tight

775
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: end records and like the nation, but it's like, do

776
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 2: you know how hard it is for the opposing team

777
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: to know the ball is going to you? And he

778
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: still goes out there and just turns up and does

779
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: all the incredible things he has done on tape, Like

780
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: he has John Newsmith DNA in him. And again I say,

781
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: this landing spot is going to matter for all these guys.

782
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: But if he ends up in a great situation, a

783
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: situation with McVeigh where McVeigh has been chasing this athletic

784
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: type of tight end for a while now, he had

785
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: Jared Evard and Tyler Hibby kind of running at one two.

786
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: If he gets him and kind of develops him to

787
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: be what his masterful like vision is for the tight

788
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: end position, he could have some years ahead of him

789
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: where he could have a really really nice, solid, you know,

790
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: fantasy outing. But the situation in scheme is going to

791
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: matter a ton for a lot of these tight ends.

792
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think for a guy like Fannin,

793
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: he is going to have to go to a place

794
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: where they don't necessarily care about his blocking in the

795
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: run game. No, But I think the downside to that

796
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: is that I don't know that he is going to

797
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: be productive enough as a pass catcher to get a

798
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: pass on that. You know, I think, especially coming in,

799
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: you're going to be asked to to block, to contribute

800
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: in the run game and occasionally get some opportunities. Like

801
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: he's not brock Bauers, right, Like brock Bauer is a

802
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: good blocker, But if he wasn't, what he gives you

803
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher is so good that you know,

804
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: if you're the Raiders, you can sort of overlook that, right,

805
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: Harold Fannin's not that guy, right, He can't. He can't

806
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: just win you over with his offensive ability. So I

807
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: think that is going to be sort of an obstacle

808
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: to him getting on the field consistently. And like I'm

809
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: trying to, I'm trying to look at a team that

810
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: could use a guy in that role, and I just

811
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing one necessarily.

812
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: Arge point where he can go, right, Yeah.

813
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: You know, I just don't know where he could go

814
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: where they'll just give him that that freedom to do that.

815
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if this does either one of these

816
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: guys move the needle for you?

817
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: Florio, Yeah, I was not huge on Mason Taylor. Watching him,

818
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: it was just a lot of like screens and rollouts

819
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: and he doesn't even like break tackles or be shifty

820
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 3: after the catch like he would just have He would

821
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: whatever space was in front of him. That's what he

822
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: was going to get you like, and that's cool and all.

823
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: But like to me, it wasn't a needle mover. But

824
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: Fannin I liked because, like Lakwan said, he was the

825
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: clear go to guy for this team, like whenever they

826
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: need it it was a big down or late in

827
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: the game or whatever, He's who they're looking at and

828
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: teams still weren't able to stop that. The name that

829
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: I wrote down for him was Dalton Kinkaid, uh because

830
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: like Kinkaid, he won.

831
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: I think he moves more like a receiver than a

832
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: tight end.

833
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 3: He's undersized a little bit, but run blocking his issues

834
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: and stuff, but like he can win downfield. He's a

835
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: yak guy, like he needs a little bit more development

836
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: I think in year one than a Kinkaid did. But

837
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: that's the player that just kept coming to mind, and

838
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: that's kind of the role because like the Bill's Polkin

839
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: kate off on running plays, like that's Dawson Knox's job,

840
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: you know. So like I think if you put fan

841
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: in in the right set up, in the right build,

842
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: he could have a lot of success.

843
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: At the next level. Yeah, I am. I again, I'm

844
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: always surprised when you compare somebody to Dalton Kincaid, considering

845
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: by the end of the year you wanted to put

846
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: him on a block of ice and just ship him

847
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the ocean. So I you

848
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: know he's in the satchel because very much he is

849
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: very much in the satchel of discontent. Yeah again, I

850
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: think I think these are guys for whom landing spot

851
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: is going to matter supremely over everything else, just because

852
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: I think their their path to getting on the field

853
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: and being contributors, especially in year one, is going to

854
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: be very, very limited by the way. You fail to

855
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: mention that Mason Taylor is the son of former Dolphin

856
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor. That's why.

857
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, his football I keeps pretty high, Like he knows

858
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: where to be on the field and he's a chain mover.

859
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: So these are good qualities of a tight end that

860
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: you want, but for fantasy, it's just not going to

861
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: translate for happiness.

862
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, his father Taylor, his uncle is Zach Thomas.

863
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: By the way, you're gonna be so pissed off, Like.

864
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: It's funny I wrote, like good fort zone a lot.

865
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: Of concerns versus man like I, and that's the football like.

866
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: You and him like yeah, yeah, just just knowing how

867
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: to get open, how to find that empty space, uh,

868
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. The next tier of guys,

869
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: I feel like, are pretty much like you're you're a

870
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: dynasty manager and you're you're sort of trying to dig

871
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: up that that diamond in the rough, that guy who

872
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: could maybe in a couple of years find his way

873
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: into a what fantasy a streaming role potentially reserved. All right,

874
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: So I got I got Elijah Royo, Gunnerhelm Thomas Fedoni,

875
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: which is the one that you like the.

876
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: Most, Florio Elijah Royal Yah was watching him play. I

877
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: get to just watch him word again. But oh I

878
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: get it like he's missed a lot of time due

879
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: to injury and stuff, and there are areas of his

880
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: game that needs work, but like one he.

881
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: Is such like he's a good yak option.

882
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: He's a smooth, natural runner like he and more than

883
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: these other tight ends. He can win downfield and was

884
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: used downfield and has that big body can be used

885
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: in the red zone. So again landing spot, how he's used,

886
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: all of that is going.

887
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: To greatly matter.

888
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: But just watching him play, I liked him more.

889
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: Than Mason Taylor person. Oh wow, all right, yeah, I

890
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: mean you seem you seem to be on board of

891
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: the Royo as well.

892
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, hot take. I think it could be a day one,

893
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: year one contributor if he lays with Jacksonville. Yes, because

894
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: Florio hit the nail on the head. Evan Ingram wanted

895
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: to be used more downfield. Now with Liam Cohen, he's

896
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: definitely going to be able to use a tight end.

897
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: And it's not gonna be Breton Stream. I understand he

898
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: flashed last season, but if they draft Elijah Royo, boy,

899
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: that starting job is going to be his speed, agility,

900
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: Like he could do it all and he plays tough,

901
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: so it's like one of those things. You put the

902
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: rock in his hand, you're going to get nine yards.

903
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: Like that's nearly what he had per reception, Like it's

904
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: insane about him being a third option but his ceiling

905
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: could be so much higher if he gets that opportunity.

906
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say there are targets to be

907
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: had in Jacksonville, right, I mean Brian Thomas was amazing

908
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, Evan Ingram only played nine games because

909
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: of injury, but beyond that, there just was nowhere else

910
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: that you felt like they were consistently going with the football.

911
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what your your team, Parker Washington.

912
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: I know LQ like he has to survive the draft.

913
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: I mean that that haven't been very vocal lately about

914
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: it because he has to survive the draft.

915
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see, yeah, I mean side we'll talk about

916
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: wide receivers in a couple of weeks. But like, could

917
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you see a tech NC millin maybe land in Jacksonville

918
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: And how much would that break your heart? Man?

919
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: That that man, because just would just be like, yep,

920
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: you're done the elite off of Dynasty rosters.

921
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Ted McMillan going to Jacksonville. I think is

922
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: is rip potentially for for Parker Washington, at least for

923
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: this year for sure. All Right, it's the tiding position.

924
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: I know that for a lot of us, it's it's

925
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna be speculative. I think in in fantasy drafts this year,

926
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: Warren's gonna be a guy that everybody sort of wants.

927
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I think Lovelin's gonna draw a lot of interest for people.

928
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: But beyond that, it is very good. It's gonna be

929
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: very speculative, and it is going to have.

930
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: A gun or health. We forgot to mention him too. Yeah,

931
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: I look at him as a guy that he could

932
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: probably be like an Austin Hooper, like at his ceiling,

933
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: like he gives off like tough mentality, but like he

934
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: makes some bonehead moves. Expect some yo laundry with him,

935
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Like he has to get he has to develop a

936
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: little bit more. But I could put a chip on

937
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: him in Dynasty, you know, hoping for like a year

938
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: three breakout, But there's not much you know, ceiling for

939
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: him in fantasy right now.

940
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing with

941
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: Dynasty tight ends, right unless you're targeting those guys at

942
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: the top, you really do have to be prepared to

943
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: just sit and wait for two three.

944
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: Let him have the good traits and like he could

945
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: be a huge contributor for a team. It's just one

946
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: of those things like he has nowhere to go right

947
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: now where that can happen for him, Like he's not

948
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: going to be better than the guy that he already

949
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 2: got there.

950
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: As you're talking, there's one name that came to mind.

951
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: Albert okuyabunham Man Alberta, Alberto Alberta. I bought in. I

952
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: bought it in a big way. I spent all one

953
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: summer learning how to properly pronounce his name because I

954
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: figured I was going to be saying in a lot.

955
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I was not saying it a lot. Which again again

956
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes dynasty tight ends work out, sometimes they don't.

957
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: Wait, did Sean Payton hype him up.

958
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: To Yeah, I think he was a shot.

959
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

960
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he was a Sean Payton guy.

961
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: He went to Denver. That might have been a year later. Yeah,

962
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a Sean Payton thing.

963
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: So either way way, he's a lieout it did it

964
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: did not work out? Wait, no Denver, Yeah it's Nathaniel

965
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Hackett and uh, yes, so it did not. It did

966
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: not happen with Sean Payton.

967
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: That he was supposed to be Russ's big guy, right,

968
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: I think that that's what it was that's what it was.

969
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. Yeah, because I think

970
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: that's why I got excited, because I'm like, hey, Russ

971
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: likes the tight end. He wants to get his tight

972
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: ends involved. Like this could be a thing. It was

973
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: not a thing, but then a Russ was not a

974
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: thing in Denver either. All Right, Swade Russell Wilson, he

975
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: was in the first round of our Fantasy Rookie QB bracket.

976
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: He did not farewell against Cam Newton. Cam Newton has

977
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: moved on. No surprise, he's in the finals. We'll talk

978
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: about his matchup. Should be an interesting one. No, we'll

979
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: do that to wrap up the show here on the

980
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. As we close things out, we

981
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: have moved on to the finals of the Fantasy Rookie

982
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: QB season's bracket. It's almost like I did this on

983
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: purpose to line up with the Final four actually happening

984
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: in San Antonio this weekend. Weird, however, now and then

985
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: I get one of these things right. It is one

986
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: versus two, which I guess is fitting flori Oni. We

987
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: got pretty much chalk all the way around, and the

988
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: men's both tournaments, right, I think on the men's side,

989
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: it's four to one seeds. On the women's side it's

990
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: three ones and a two rip usc Like, you know,

991
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: who knows what it's different if Juju stays healthy, I'm

992
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna hold onto that for a long time. But anyway,

993
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: in this tournament, it's one versus two. It's Cam Newton

994
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: versus Jade and Daniels. I guess, first, any surprises how

995
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: the second round went. Cam ran away from Robert Griffin

996
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: third and Jade Daniels blew out justin Herbert. Any surprises there? No,

997
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: we won.

998
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 3: I thought the Jade and Daniels blow out my even bigger,

999
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: and I thought the Cam RGI three to one might

1000
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 3: be a little closer. But I think from the start

1001
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: we all kind of envisioned that this would be the finals.

1002
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, Like, I know, does it make

1003
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: it better or worse for you? Lakwan that RG three

1004
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: got blown out by Cam Newton after the way he

1005
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: took care of bon Nicks.

1006
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: That's insane, first of all, like the disrespect bro. And

1007
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, I get

1008
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: some people just don't understand the lens of what we're

1009
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: looking at because we're still getting Where's Andrew Luck, Like

1010
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: we're still getting those comments in the tweets and stuff

1011
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: like where's Ben Roethlisberger. QB wins do not count for

1012
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: fantasy points, don't count for fantasy They don't. They just

1013
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: simply don't. I'm just more so of like looking at

1014
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: this my excitement and understanding of like Boon Nicks coming

1015
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: into the season, Robert Griffin the third and even now

1016
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: with this kind of a blowout with Cam versus Robert Griffin,

1017
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: it's not even close, Like it's just like what we're

1018
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: looking at.

1019
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I'm with you, Floor, I thought that'd be

1020
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: a little bit closer. I thought Cam Newton would win.

1021
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think he win with seventy two percent to

1022
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent was twenty eight percent for RG three.

1023
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: I thought it'd be I don't know, maybe a sixty

1024
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: forty yeah, something like that, sixty five to thirty five

1025
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: something like that. So I was not expecting what we

1026
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: finally got. And I'm also with you. I thought Jaden

1027
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: Daniels because he's the way he smoked Kyler Murray like

1028
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: ninety three percent to like seven percent, Like I was

1029
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: thinking something more along those lines. But hey man, Apparently

1030
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers do have a lot of fans, so he

1031
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: ended up he ended upeting more still than the world.

1032
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: So here we are. We're number one. Cam Newton in

1033
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: his twenty eleven rookie season over four thousand passing yards,

1034
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: twenty one passing touchdowns, fourteen rushing touchdowns with seven hundred

1035
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: and six rushing yards against Jayden Daniels from this past

1036
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: season thirty five hundred passing yards and twenty five tds,

1037
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: eight hundred and ninety one rushing yards and six rushing touchdowns. Jinkies, Yeah,

1038
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna and say I'm gona say

1039
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: this one's gonna be close. I think Cam wins, but

1040
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: I think this one's gonna be the first really close

1041
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: matchup we've had in this tournament.

1042
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: I think Jayden Daniels takes it because this is gonna

1043
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: come down to moments like how many moments like we

1044
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: got out of these players, and I think recency bias

1045
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: will play into JD's favor, So we shall see.

1046
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think recency bias will help.

1047
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of comments being like, well, this

1048
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: player scored more Fantasy points, so they had a better

1049
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: rookie year. And I'm gonna argue this for Jaden because

1050
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: I know Cam had fourteen more Fantasy points. But Cam

1051
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: played the entire year that year, and I know if

1052
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: you look at Jayden's game log he played the full year,

1053
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 3: but he did not play the full year. He against

1054
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: Carolina played less than fifteen percent of the snaps. He

1055
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: got hurt right away in that one, and then Week

1056
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: seventeen he played a little bit in the first half

1057
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 3: and then sat. So if you go by a per

1058
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: game basis and you make it fifteen for Jayden, he

1059
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: has the best rookie year any quarterbacks ever had. He

1060
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: had more passing touchdowns, more rushing yards. Cam had the

1061
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: advantage in passing yards and rushing touchdowns. But on a

1062
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: per game basis, if you take away the two that

1063
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 3: Jayden was hurt, he was better. And then to lq's point,

1064
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: like Cam did that, I don't know what their record

1065
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 3: was that year. I don't believe they were very good.

1066
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: Six and ten, six and ten, yeah, exactly.

1067
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: Jaden not only did he do what he did, he

1068
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: got them to twelve and five and then then into

1069
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game and gave the Eagles a legit

1070
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: hard first half until his special teams fumbled it two

1071
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: times in a row and get back to the way.

1072
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: Jaden.

1073
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: To me, I think is the greatest rookie quarterback we've

1074
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: ever seen, and he deserves to win this this contest, right.

1075
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: I do think context matters, right, because you know, Cam

1076
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: obviously had a great year and he ran the ball really,

1077
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: really effectively. He also had two really good running backs

1078
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: with him. I mean, he had Jonathan Stewart and DiAngelo Williams.

1079
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that compares to look, Brian Robinson is

1080
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: a good player. Austin Eckler is sort of on the

1081
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: back side of his career, starting to decline a little bit. Like,

1082
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: I don't think those two guys compare to what you

1083
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: were getting from Stuart and Williams. You know, I think

1084
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: you can you can make a very good case that

1085
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin and Steve Smith Senior. I guess he was

1086
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: just Steve Smith then, but Steve Smith were on par

1087
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: with one another. I think I think those two sort

1088
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: of canceled out. I'm I'm not sure, like you know,

1089
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, this does does zach Ertz compare to what

1090
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen was in twenty eleven. I just think there's

1091
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: there has to be some context here, like, yeah, Tam

1092
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: scored four points, But.

1093
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: Did Olsen have left after that because Ertz is at

1094
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 3: the end of his rope.

1095
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: You don't remember how Ertz is very much, uh you

1096
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: know about done? Uh for Olsen? He still played another

1097
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: nine years. Okay, Yeah, he wins easily. Yeah he played.

1098
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: I didn't realize Olsen played that much longer.

1099
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played until twenty twenty. He had a very

1100
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: forgettable year in Seattle in twenty twenty that year, and

1101
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: he was.

1102
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: Great up until twenty sixteen. So yeah, Cam had the

1103
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: better supporting cast.

1104
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he did, so I know all things

1105
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: to just sort of take it to me.

1106
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: Both had McCaffrey's I mean, yeah, with.

1107
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: Jeffrey's one slightly better than the other.

1108
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, slightly a little bit.

1109
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: Had seventeen interceptions though, and I was told quarterbacks can't

1110
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 3: win big awards when they had that many interceptions, So.

1111
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: Naturally takes what what quarterback would you be talking about?

1112
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea who you'd be referring to at all.

1113
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Don't know on in twenty three MVP race, I don't know.

1114
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: Side notes to the speaking of guy's name McCaffrey. I'm

1115
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: sure you guys saw the you know, all the talk

1116
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: about Corey Booker and the historic phil Buster that he

1117
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: had the part about it that that actually has to

1118
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: do with us. I don't know if you saw he

1119
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: took a shot at Ed McCaffrey, at Christian McCaffrey's dad.

1120
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: Just so random because they played together in nineteen ninety

1121
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: at Stanford. Corey Booker was like a second or third

1122
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: string wide receiver. But he says he would have been

1123
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: better than Ed McCaffrey if he had gotten more targets.

1124
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: Targets earned.

1125
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: My boy, he said, if he had gotten more opportunity

1126
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: with the Stanford Cardinal that he would have been a

1127
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: lot better. And I'll say this, I mean having been

1128
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: alive and actually playing attention to the college football. That

1129
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: was not a bad Stanford team. They had at McCaffrey.

1130
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: They had a running back named Glenn Milburn who was

1131
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of a running back, pass catcher, hunt returner, you know,

1132
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: not as fast as saying Jimmy Gibbs, but a guy

1133
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: who could do a little bit of everything. Glenn Milburgh

1134
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: was a really good college player. They had a young

1135
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: running back named Tommy Vardell, who later became known as

1136
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: touchdown Tommy when he scored thirty four touchdowns in his

1137
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: final two seasons at Stanford. Yeah, that was That was

1138
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: a very very good Stanford team. But there's a reason

1139
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: Corey Booker is working at politics and not you know,

1140
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: a retired and I.

1141
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: Love though that.

1142
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: Look, he's fifty five years old, he said, a tremendously

1143
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 3: successful career in politics, whether you like him or not.

1144
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: Like he's done a lot in politics and all that.

1145
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: He's just like all of us. Though he's still talking.

1146
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: About glory days three decades ago.

1147
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: Like I could grow if.

1148
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't for my knee or something like that.

1149
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: You know, like.

1150
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: They're just like us, just like us. He shouted out

1151
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: the Bills at random. He was like, there's one football

1152
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: team in New York and it's the Buffalo Bill.

1153
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: Turt out to you, Cory Booker. He also take a

1154
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: shot at John Lynch and said there's a reason John

1155
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: Lynch did not play quarterback in the NFL.

1156
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: Jilli busterd I would just rant about sports for the

1157
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: entire time.

1158
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would. I would sit around and I

1159
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: would lament the fact that the nineteen ninety Oakland A's

1160
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: somehow were like the greatest team ever but didn't got

1161
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: swept in the World Series by the Cincinnati Reds because

1162
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: stupid Chris Sabo and Billy bleeping Hatcher couldn't make it

1163
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: out and Eric Davis, you know, it was always a

1164
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: great but sorry, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop triggered. I

1165
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: was gonna stop right there.

1166
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: I you know, this may or may not have happened

1167
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: and forty nine more minutes if you were a politician.

1168
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. This may or may not have happened

1169
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: in a group chat recently too, So I'm just gonna

1170
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: let it go right there. Ah right, that's a good

1171
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: spot for to take a break on the show that

1172
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: ended up going an hour anyway, because I guess we

1173
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: just have a whole lot to say about nothing. We'll

1174
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: be back with you next week. We will dive into

1175
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: some running backs trying to effort maybe a guest or

1176
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: two to come help us out with that as well,

1177
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. In the meantime. That'll do

1178
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

1179
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: They Happy, safe and healthy, do good, and live well,

1180
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: Enjoy the Final Four, everybody. I should be a lot

1181
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: of fun college basketball fans this weekend and we will

1182
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Wh