WEBVTT - Iconic Public Land Hunting Stories 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.640 You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network powered by 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.520 Interstate Batteries from your truck to your trail camera. Interstate 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.440 Batteries as you covered. Visit your local Interstate Battery store 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:17.880 today or online at Interstate Batteries dot com. Interstate Batteries 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:32.480 Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.159 of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.560 host into the world of hunting the icon of North 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:44.360 American wilderness affair. We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation, who 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.000 will also bring you into some of the wildest country 0:00:47.320 --> 0:01:00.360 on the planet Chasing Battery. This is a really actual 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.200 episode of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast for me because 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.679 I'm able to take you into my family deer camp 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:10.959 on public land in southwest Arkansas with my dad, my brothers, 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.759 my children, and another close friend and his kids. Were 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.800 sitting around the campfire, and it seems like every year 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.319 on Saturday night, we cook a big dinner and we 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.720 end up telling these iconic hunting stories that have have 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.520 shaped us all. I really wanted to capture some of 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.080 the stories of my dad, who's been bow hunting for 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.440 forty years. He's seventy years old, and he he's really 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.920 the one that shaped and mentored me as a hunter, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.119 and the stories that he tells are all stories that 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.119 impacted me as a as a young hunter, as a kid, 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.240 and as even as a young man. The conversation also 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.160 flows into some of my iconic stories that happened on 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:58.200 public Land and Southwest Arkansas. And it was really fun 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.200 to to capture this in the moment. This wasn't captured 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.320 over zoom or over a phone call. This was around 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.080 the campfire, and these stories are being narrated to a 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:14.600 live audience, which is our family and friends. And these 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:19.600 kind of oral traditions and storytelling is truly something that's ancient, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.480 no doubt. Men have been telling these kind of stories 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:29.400 for thousands and thousands of years, and it was really 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.639 fun to to just capture it. And this is what 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.280 we do every year, and I really think you're gonna 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.560 enjoy this podcast. We tell the kind of little snippets 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:42.880 of multiple really fun hunting stories, but hunting stories that 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.000 all my kids would have already known, but it seems 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.239 like we tell them again and again, and every year 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.120 we keep adding to the to the profile of iconic 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:58.920 hunting stories. You're gonna enjoy this podcast. It's November the 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:05.240 ten team and we are at the annual Newcomb Family 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:10.200 Public Land deer hunt in southwest Arkansas. Dad, how long 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.960 have we been doing this? Oh, he's got a mouthful 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.560 of burger. Let me let me let me tell you 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.639 what we're doing. Let me let me describe the atmosphere here. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:23.000 It is cold for Arkansas November. The tenth high temperature 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.960 this morning was around twenty five degrees And we found 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.960 a beautiful log that has been burning all day, a 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.440 huge oak that was hollow in the middle. We set 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.000 it up and it's been burning all day. So we're 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:41.720 all setting around a huge campfire. There's about fifteen of 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.960 us here and this is this is and we're eating dinner. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.080 We all all the me and my brothers, my dad 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.720 and Ty cooked a big dinner for the kids. Hamburgers, 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.720 corn on the cob, French fries, the real deal for 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:05.400 a Arkansas cook out, Arkansas camp out. But what we're 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.160 gonna do on this podcast is it seems like every 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.240 time we get together, we always talk about some iconic 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.839 hunting stories that have influenced us. And I want to 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.560 talk to my dad about some of his some of 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:27.039 his early hunting. Dad's been hunting public land since when 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:34.000 the sixties, seventy, mid seventies, seventies seven. Really that's when 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.679 you started both hunting. Yeah, No one in our family, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:42.640 no one in our family, uncle's cousins deer hunting. I 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.760 didn't even know what a deer track looked like. And 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.560 I had a couple of guys, the principle of a 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.599 school and a guy that had about a hundred sixty 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.239 I Q. He knew everything in the world about deer. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.039 I mean he could tell you the exact date they 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.279 bred and when you know when they dropped, and just 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.280 anything you want to know. And back in the day 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.960 that was unusual. Yeah, And this guy was brilliant. His 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.479 name was Barry Wait four hundred pounds. And we'd go 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.599 to this coffee shop and he taught me about deer. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:14.760 He told me one day he said, come to the 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.520 house and I should teach you how to shoot a bowl. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.880 And so he he gave me a recurve. I hated 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.080 the recurve, but I went and hunted with him, and 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.080 they could not kill deer. It was real funny. And 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.359 and uh, I went with some buddies down south, and 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.960 I had a compound by then, an old bear compound, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:40.480 and uh we I heard a guy that was with 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.640 us and he said, bear or deer like white ok acres, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.520 and I go, holy cow, that's what I've been looking for. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.440 I mean, I didn't hardly know what a deer track 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.480 looked like, but I figured if you could figure out 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.160 where they were eating, And all of a sudden, I 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.240 started killing deer, I mean every year, and and back 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.000 then it was it was a big deal. Any more, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.240 what I do is, you know, I'm I'm on the 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:06.560 bottom of the cotem pole. But in the seventies, if 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.040 you could kill two or three deer year, even if 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.839 they were Southwest Arkansas, you were doing Yeah Central Hospital 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:14.920 and I've said all the times that you were killing 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.320 there with the boat before it was cool. Yeah, well 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.800 I don't know about that, but it sure was fun. 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:21.839 And people would ask me how how you do it? 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.479 How do you do it? Well? You do it? And 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.320 you know, man, I just go to McDonald's and shoot 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.359 them as they walking. And you've killed a deer with 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:33.440 the boat every year for forty years. Yeah, in Arkansas, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:37.080 not in the high density areas, but on public land. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.880 And then, you know, about eighty three, I read an 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.680 article about the way I hunted. A guy in Alabama 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.440 wrote exactly what I was doing. And and then as 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.920 the kids started growing up, they started doing the same stuff, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.520 but they started killing big bucks. And I never shifted 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.440 to the big bucks because I had plenty of opportunities. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.560 You know about every three years when you hunt away, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.360 I hunt big, a big good hundred thirty five hundred 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.560 forty five class buckle walk up, you know, But uh, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.000 it's too boring for me. I want to kill a 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.920 few deer, and I'd always quit, like to kill them 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.800 when they when they walk. Well, November the fifth man, 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.640 I put my stuff up. I was done. So I hunted. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.480 I funded five saturdays a year for forty years, and 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.160 if I could go in the afternoons, I would. And 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.360 it was pretty tough to kill two or three deer 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.880 with five saturdays. You had to do a lot of things, right, yeah, yeah, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.200 And so anyway, I've always enjoyed it. And out of 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.720 the kids, Tyler's here, it's Mr Tyler Nukelem. Hey, I'm 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.560 gonna I'm gonna go around the campfire and introduce everybody, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.760 and Zach Tyler was too young to go with me, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.480 but I'd take Zack and Clay. Zach liked it. Okay, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.360 Clay Baby, absolutely, I could not wear him out. No 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.240 one wanted to go with me because I scouted like 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.680 a dead gum, you know, crazy person, because I wouldn't 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.920 hunt unless I could really find there, And so no 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.160 one wanted to go with me. But Clay Baby would 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.880 be by my side. We'd even scout on foilers back 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.240 when you could ride into woods, and and we would 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.600 run banshees through the woods looking for the stuff. I 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.360 knew what to look for. And Clay would never give up. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.040 Would you be going through creeks, would go through cutovers 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.680 all that was legal back then and in uh you know, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.800 not telling how much territory. And Clay would never ever 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:34.320 wear out. And I was a kind of dad that 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.400 I'd made a commitment. I was gonna kill a deer 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.640 every year regardless. And my dad said, you'd never do it. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.200 My buddy said, you'll never do it. So I was 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.040 so motivated to kill that if you couldn't keep up, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.920 I didn't baby sits you like dad? Should you know? 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.880 I drug Clay around and he never ever, he never 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.040 quit and uh and now he's taking it onto another level. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:02.160 But anyway, that's pretty much my story. Well man, there's 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.240 there's a there's a lot to be said about that 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.280 right there. But part of the reason that I wanted 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.200 to record this here was this is really where I 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:15.280 cut my teeth. Bow hunting was right here in this 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.280 management area, and this is this is where we scouted, 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.959 this is where you drugged me around, and so it's 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.480 pretty cool. I think we've done this for twenty years, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:31.880 man longer. Well eight we moved to Mina in eighty 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:37.080 four and in in in December of eighty four, we 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:42.040 moved to Mina. January second or third, I killed the 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:47.360 dough with my bow in the snow right here in 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.360 this area. And uh, a guy just told me, he said, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:55.880 go to this particular you know, areas the public public land. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.640 And so I just drove around and and I killed 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.800 a dough. That was kind of my signature that I 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.320 was in the right spot. And uh so after that, 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.200 I never hunt in January, but I just wanted to 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.079 do it because we were new and uh one of 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.200 a few times I've ever killed a deer other than 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.040 October or the first two or three days in November. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.240 I just put my stuff up and tried to be 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.840 a good dad. But dear in October, I was how 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.040 did that work? Zack and Teller? It didn't work good. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.679 These kids turned out to be just absolute dirt balls. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.560 No really, they all turned out good and in spite 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.960 of that. But I'm not like you with your kids. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.320 If you didn't want to play the game hard, that's fine, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.080 stay home. Tyler was too young, you know, he was 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.360 he was too young to go. But Zach stayed with 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:50.839 me pretty good, really, But it wasn't Yeah, I was 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.760 too young. You know what was happening. I was probably 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.520 taking a nap in the back of the truck. Hey, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.679 before we get any further, I got I gotta introduce, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.520 I gotta I gotta to show the audience. So this 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.600 is like a this is this is like in front 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.079 of a live studio audience. Here, but we're we're we're 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.800 sitting around the fire. And I was gonna say, that's 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.160 that's why these stories are so cool, because we're right here. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.400 But we've got I'm okay, I'm gonna go right in 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.959 the fire and tell me, tell me who you are. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:24.319 We've got one River Newcome. We got my brothers. We 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:29.600 got Bear Baron Newcomb, my oldest son. We got Liam, 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:34.840 we got Liam, we got we got a ship, we 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:40.079 got we got Ike. We got my brother Tyler. Tyler. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.000 Now Tyler has been hot today. Tyler's not even hunting. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.600 But he came down here and he came in rolled 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:49.240 into camp with a cell phone picture of a probably 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.719 a hundred and thirty five in buck that he took 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.559 on the side of the road right up here, and 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.319 he wouldn't tell us where it was. And your name, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:01.240 young man, and then I didn't even introduce my dad 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.840 before he jumped on there. But Gary Newcomb, yeah, Gary Newcomb. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:11.320 And then we got last but not least, Tarrell. So 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.880 the so it's all Newcombs. So we've got our good friends. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.840 The Dennison's here with us too, and so we've the 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.760 hunting has been this trip is really not about hunting. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.000 I would have to say, it's short. It's about getting 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.240 a deer. It's not about getting a deer. But ty 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.280 you did have like the best hunts today. Yeah, I 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.240 saw I saw plenty. I saw four deer in the 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.800 morning and probably tender in the evening hunt, and uh, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.720 it was. It was a lot of activity. Nothing quite 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.280 worked out for me to get a deer. But boys, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.160 what have you all been doing all day? Who wants 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.360 to tell you what you've been doing? What have you 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:56.080 been doing? Well? In the morning hunting and lasted about 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.480 an hour and thirteen minutes before I felt like my 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.959 fingers are about to fall off and started walking down 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.000 the road and Popball came and picked me up. Well 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.880 because he just happened to be driving at the same 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.240 time I was walking. You have your Hunter's Safety Education 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.200 cards so you can actual hunt a by yourself? Yes, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.560 and a hunt in this afternoon? How did this afternoon? 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.880 What do you guys been doing? Man, you'll been at 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.480 camp all day at camp shooting baby guns and having 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.440 fun shooting bb guns. Uncle Zack, you've been doing some 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.120 fly fishing, a little bit of fly fishing. Thirty minutes 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.800 of hard hunting this morning, thirty minutes a hard hunting river. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.000 What have you been doing? I don't even know what 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.360 you've been We've just been hanging out the fire, one 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.240 rock and fire and then all right, I extraly, what 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.960 have you been doing? Being cold? Being cold? All right? 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.319 All right? I hear you, Atticus. What have you been doing? Man? 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.400 This is your first deer kimp. How's it been for you? Great? 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.160 Have you had a good time? I have a great one. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:59.400 What do you um? I enjoy hunting a lot, and 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.559 you're pretty tough out in the woods. I've noticed you're 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.720 always right on my heels when we're walking. Yeah. Yeah, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.040 and you're good at not getting your boots wet. Here's 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.720 what I thought I would do. We thought we would 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:18.000 talk about some iconic stories that have happened right here 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.440 in this area. And I've got one, if not two 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.040 iconic stories. And I want to give a little bit 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:31.320 of a context to this because you guys have grown 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.440 up and I grew up in a region of the 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.400 country that was rich with public land. And growing up 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.960 where I did, I mean where, well, where we all did, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.840 there was public land, massive amounts of public land within 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.200 ten minutes any just about any direction that you drove, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.520 and public land really has a pretty massive influence on 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:59.040 the culture of regions, you know, because you can I mean, 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.960 the hunting culture as are usually strong. And you just 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.240 you don't you don't realize that, I mean, dad. And 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.800 then we grew up riding four wheelers recreationally in the 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.720 National forest and in places that you could. That was 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.080 a big part of what we did. We grew up hunting. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.320 We grew up coming down here. There are parts of 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.160 the are parts of this country and for sure most 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.880 of the world. You can't come to a place as 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.000 big as this, with as much game as this and 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.640 go and just hunt. Did you guys know that this 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:38.880 is like a pretty significant deal? Come on, kids? Yes, yes, honestly, 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.800 I can't recall and if they have w m as 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.360 technically in Texas, but growing up in Texas, I grew 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.280 up on the coast, and all of the deer hunting 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.480 that I knew was on deer leases, so it's always 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.600 somebody's leaks, and so if you wanted to go deer hunting, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.160 you had to go on the lease. So that's why 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.480 I grew up duck hunting, because I could just go 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.000 up on the coast or going like smaller public places 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.920 and I could duck hunt, or I could dove hunt 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:07.280 in some places that wouldn't be as that were accessible 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.080 to me without having the land, because we never knew 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.880 anybody with a deer lease. So moving to Arkansas, which 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.920 you did twelve thirteen years ago. That was like a 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.240 pretty well, it's a pretty big deal to have access 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.360 to public line. Yeah, it's great. That's something that's really 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.800 cool about. You know, there's the land down here, there's 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.920 w a up where we're at north of here, and 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.160 like it. It gives me the opportunity to hunt kind 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.920 of like garious talking about you know, my we didn't 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.600 grow up deer hunting. Um, so I can kind of 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.520 start deer hunting without having to have land or at 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:42.800 least or anything like that. Yeah, Dad, what would you 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:47.400 say is one of the most iconic hunts that that 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.640 you've had in your bow hunt career? I mean, whether 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.360 it would be like the first deer that you brought 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.080 back and showed people, you know back in the seventies 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.960 when you killed a deer, or whether it was a 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:03.040 clicking buck that got away, or whether it was Hollywood 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:08.879 back with the Well mean, you know, I've just got 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.840 I'm full of those stories, you know, Um, the clicking buck, 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.760 we've got to stay. We call the clicking buck. They 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.119 cut it. But I mean one morning I had a 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.320 he ended up being a twelve point and I mean 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.720 he could have been from and he wasn't one thirty five, 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.119 he was one forty to one sixty perfect twelve point 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:33.160 in uh he he clicked, he clicked, And I've been 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.240 told and I don't know if this is true. You guys, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.000 some of you guys probably know if you knew, if 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.600 you know Texas Clay or whatever, how you communicate with 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.880 Clay and say your dad was right or your dad 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.080 was wrong. But I stopped at a couple of guys 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.600 that are kind of legendary hunters in this area, and 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.359 I said, you know, I got on the darned stay 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.879 in this morning. Um, a buck walked in, a heavy 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.359 buck and clicked. And I said, I would never know 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.720 what a click was, but my buddy had bought one. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.760 It just it was just you'd spin a deal and 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.600 it would go click click a click, and and and 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.840 you know, this buck came in clicking. It's like a 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:16.160 partial grunt. It's like just like that almost it really 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.359 is just real quick grunts. But it sounds like this 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.480 thing like a grunt is a series of clicks. Basically, 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.400 It's just like it's the way it sounded. So anyway, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.520 I'm thinking, man, this is a big animal. He came 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.000 out of a pine thicket. I'm sitting on a white 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.399 oak feeding area and he leaves, and I think, what 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.520 the heck is going on? All of a sudden, a 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.000 ten point, a nice ten point, you know, maybe a 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:44.280 dred class buck pulls up right here. And that's about 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.119 the time they started putting loops on the bow, and 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.199 I didn't have a loop, and but you know, he 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.280 just stood there watching the snow feed. And so anyway, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.359 my era fell out of my bow. That's what happens 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.800 to me. And so anyway, I'm thinking the hunt's over. Well, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.480 a six point comes in and he and they're all 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.920 with they're all tending this dough, right, yeah, they're all 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.680 after in. This little old six point comes in. He's 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.239 pretty good six point and he's looking at He's like 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.240 a little kid, and he's going, what are the adults doing? 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.840 And all of a sudden, he just folds his legs 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.400 and drops to the ground and he's just looking at 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.920 where the dough. The ten point after, I'm so he 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.800 just bedded down while he was but he was looking, man, 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.879 I mean, he was hiding. All of a sudden the 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.800 ten point comes runs him off. So I'm thinking that 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.240 hunts over well, I start climbing down. I had to 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.400 get back to town that morning early. Here he comes 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.640 in the eight point. Well, so the next week I'm 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.600 back at that same spot, and these guys told me 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.800 that that clicking buck will will sent check that dough 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.040 and she's not ready, he'll leave, And that's exactly what 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.679 he did. Well, the next Saturday, he's with this dough. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.720 He pulls up at thirty yards and watches her feed 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.639 broadside and I got a hickory tree in my way, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.080 and man, I maneuver round. I mean, I'm twenty two 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.919 feet up and I'm doing this. I finally find a 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.520 hole and by the time I find it, I forget 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.280 the Dere's thirty actually thirty three yards away and I 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.520 put my twenty pen on it. I mean, holy call, 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.560 it was a for this area. You know, it was 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.680 a world beater, and I mean, I'll always remember that. 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.159 So the next week I put Clay in there. He 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.879 comes home from college or whatever, and of course the 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.280 buck never came back. I never heard about it being killed, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.280 but it's kind of buck you might hear about if 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:35.200 somebody had killed it. I'm sure they did, but really, 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.800 I got two more stories. You want to might want 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.200 to spread them out. I've got I've got a story 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:47.240 that like for you that what about the five hog Bottom? Well, 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.119 that's my story I got. I got. Okay, well you 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.800 tell that story and then I'll tell the story connected 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.160 to that, because that's what I want these kids to hear, 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.800 and some of the stories. You know, some years, it 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.439 really when the kids growing up. Some some years, it 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.760 was really tough hunting. Even the way I hunted, it 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.760 was tough. In one year, no one with a bowl 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.680 was hardly killing a deer. And I had one little 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.119 spot that I thought we could kill a deer on it, 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:16.520 and I put clay on it, and I said, I'm 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.280 gonna go to I'm gonna go to hog Bottom and 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:24.679 it's leased out now, and I'm gonna be in the 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.879 hogs and the deer. Surely something will happen. Is this 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.040 the story? And so I'm walking in hog Boy, So, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.040 I mean, this is a place that you had scouted 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:38.520 for deer, and there was hogs and acorns, and but 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.200 the hogs, I mean, you know, the deer was really 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.840 what I wanted to kill. So I'm walking, I'm walking 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:48.040 to my stand and I hear hogs coming man. I 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:51.360 mean it's not one hog. It's thirty hogs. And they 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.600 come offside this ridge and they come through cane is 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.000 and I'm standing there and I'm going, holy smokes, look 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.760 at all these little pigs. You know, they were like 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.719 sixty pound unders to a hundred pounders and some bigger. 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.200 And I'd just go whack and I'd reload, whack, reload. 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.080 I went through all the way down to one arrow 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.840 and all of a sudden, and you guys that no 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.720 outdoors you know, I'm telling you what happened. And I 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.679 knew some guys that were big hog hunters from Oklahoma 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:24.159 ran dogs, road horses, I mean, they were outdoorsmen. And 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.280 I asked him about it. I said, this hog came 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.320 off that mountain and I said it sounded if I 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.960 didn't know what it was, I can't remember what I said. 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.440 It sounded like a lyon a roller. That sucker came 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.960 off that mountain and sounded like a roar. And I'm 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.080 standing on a creek in these halls. All these hogs 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.960 jumped up about the creek was about four ft deep, 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.840 you know, the bank, and they were up there. You 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.719 were you were killing them as they were across as 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.760 they were coming through, I'm I'm killing You're standing in 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.560 a dry creek bed. Yeah, And and as these hogs 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.480 acrossing the creek, you're shooting them one by one and 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:02.280 they're squealing the whole bunch. I got thirty girls out 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:11.520