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Speaker 1: Outrageously Dependable. My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host

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Speaker 1: of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your

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Speaker 1: host into the world of hunting the icon of North

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Speaker 1: American wilderness affair. We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation, who

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Speaker 1: will also bring you into some of the wildest country

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Speaker 1: on the planet Chasing Battery. This is a really actual

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Speaker 1: episode of the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast for me because

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Speaker 1: I'm able to take you into my family deer camp

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Speaker 1: on public land in southwest Arkansas with my dad, my brothers,

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Speaker 1: my children, and another close friend and his kids. Were

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Speaker 1: sitting around the campfire, and it seems like every year

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night, we cook a big dinner and we

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Speaker 1: end up telling these iconic hunting stories that have have

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Speaker 1: shaped us all. I really wanted to capture some of

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Speaker 1: the stories of my dad, who's been bow hunting for

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Speaker 1: forty years. He's seventy years old, and he he's really

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Speaker 1: the one that shaped and mentored me as a hunter,

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Speaker 1: and the stories that he tells are all stories that

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Speaker 1: impacted me as a as a young hunter, as a kid,

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Speaker 1: and as even as a young man. The conversation also

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Speaker 1: flows into some of my iconic stories that happened on

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Speaker 1: public Land and Southwest Arkansas. And it was really fun

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Speaker 1: to to capture this in the moment. This wasn't captured

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Speaker 1: the campfire, and these stories are being narrated to a

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Speaker 1: live audience, which is our family and friends. And these

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Speaker 1: kind of oral traditions and storytelling is truly something that's ancient,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Men have been telling these kind of stories

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Speaker 1: we do every year, and I really think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: enjoy this podcast. We tell the kind of little snippets

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Speaker 1: of multiple really fun hunting stories, but hunting stories that

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Speaker 1: like we tell them again and again, and every year

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Speaker 1: we keep adding to the to the profile of iconic

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Speaker 1: hunting stories. You're gonna enjoy this podcast. It's November the

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Speaker 1: ten team and we are at the annual Newcomb Family

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Speaker 1: Public Land deer hunt in southwest Arkansas. Dad, how long

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Speaker 1: have we been doing this? Oh, he's got a mouthful

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Speaker 1: It is cold for Arkansas November. The tenth high temperature

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Speaker 1: us here and this is this is and we're eating dinner.

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Speaker 1: We all all the me and my brothers, my dad

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Speaker 1: corn on the cob, French fries, the real deal for

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Speaker 1: And then, you know, about eighty three, I read an

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Speaker 1: I drug Clay around and he never ever, he never

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Speaker 1: But anyway, that's pretty much my story. Well man, there's

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Speaker 1: Now Tyler has been hot today. Tyler's not even hunting.

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Speaker 1: he turned and ran up a hill. But if I'd

428
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: let him get in the creek with me, he would

429
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: have just I mean, he'd kill me. You guys wouldn't

430
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: have a grandpa. But such a sissy. I had a

431
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: mint up that tree quicker than you know, you could

432
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: say scalded dog. So anyway, here's the part I like,

433
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: so I go pick Clay up. It seems like you

434
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: might have seen a spike. I can't remember, And I go, Clay, baby,

435
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: we got hogs down in the bottom. I'm are you

436
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna know you going into I'm gonna go to your

437
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: I want you to tell your story, right. Well, but

438
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: first of all, you killed I think you we we

439
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: only killed two or three. We recovered three good size holes.

440
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And so anyway, Clay, I said, Clay, this

441
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be a horrible job. You know, first time

442
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: we'd kill pigs. They were clean. They were cleaner than

443
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: a white tail, no odor, they were just spotless, man.

444
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it was the cleanest thing. We got him clean.

445
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: And then then Clay does his thing. He always was

446
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: coming up some crazy you know. I was. I I

447
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: remember because I was fifteen years old because I couldn't

448
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: drive yet, and so Dad, I was with it. I

449
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: was hunting somewhere else. When you kill those pigs, I

450
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: helped you recover them. So I knew where the pigs were.

451
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 1: And that week at school I told my buddy Jared

452
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: Moore about these hogs, and he was sixteen, and we

453
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: were going to drive his truck down here and go

454
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: hog hunting, but the lights on his pickup didn't work

455
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: and so we couldn't go. So Dad took me down

456
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: there the next week and on Saturday. I remember you

457
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: were wanting to go hunt somewhere else, and you just remember,

458
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: let me let me just interrupt. You know, I got

459
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: to me it was like a little thirteen year old kids.

460
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: So he's fifteen. He's just a kid, I'm telling you know.

461
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, how many daddy's are gonna drop their

462
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: kid off with a bow and arrow after that big

463
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: bow where I saw and all those hogs. But I

464
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: just knew Clay can handle it, and I just dropped

465
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: him off and then tell what happened. But it had

466
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: to it had to have been around in mid October

467
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: because it was warm. And I mean, I for some reason,

468
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: I remember everything about that hunt. But I remember you

469
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: dropping me off, and you leave it, and you're just

470
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: point in the direction I should go, you know, like, hey,

471
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: I'll be here after dark to pick you up. And man,

472
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: I remember I didn't walk into the wood fifty yards

473
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: before I heard a pig grunting and I I knock

474
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: an era and I listened, and here's a pig grunting,

475
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm serious, hasn't been Dad, hasn't been

476
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: gone ten minutes. And I see a big black hog

477
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: coming through the woods and it's just gonna parallel me

478
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: at about twenty yards. And but by the time I

479
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: get my bow, get my ara knocked, and get everything ready.

480
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: The hog passes by me and I'm just like Dad, come.

481
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: That was one of the first live hogs that I

482
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: had seen. Well. Directly, I hear another hog coming and

483
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: it was a good size hog, and this time I

484
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: didn't let it pass. It came by it about fifteen

485
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: to twenty yards and I shot it and I just

486
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: hit it right behind the shoulder and just tendering this

487
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: hog where the hog runs off. Directly, I hear what

488
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: sounds like an army of hogs coming, and it was

489
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven hogs passed by, one by one by one

490
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: by one by one, right in front of me. And

491
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: why I didn't shoot him, I don't know. To this day,

492
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember why I didn't. I think I was

493
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: so used to white tail hunting that you shot a

494
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: white tail, and you know, I mean I was you

495
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: just waited for Dad to come pick up. You know

496
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I did that one time on deer. I could have

497
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: killed two deer, a buck and a dough one morning,

498
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: but I was thinking turkey hunting and I just killed

499
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: the bog too. And to say day, you know, I

500
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to get my killing over with you know,

501
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: since the only hunted five Saturdays. But anyway, I think

502
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: it's probably what you were thinking. Well, I think I

503
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: just wasn't used to the idea that hogs had unlimited numbers.

504
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: So I let twenty seven hogs passed by me, and

505
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: they were all shots, well about thirty minutes passes, and

506
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: these are the these are the first hogs I've ever

507
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: seen really in the wild. And now I've seen twenty

508
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: nine hogs, and Dad hadn't been gone thirty minutes by

509
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: this point. I wait about thirty minutes, and I go,

510
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: I guess I better go track that hog. So I

511
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: go over there and find blood and start tracking this hog,

512
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: tracking this hog, tracking this hog. And I don't go

513
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: very far, and I start hearing hogs grunting again, and

514
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I just start moving in closer, moving in closer, and

515
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: I see this like swarm of hogs, and I'm trying

516
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: to interpret what's happening in front of me, and I'm

517
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: moving closer, moving closer, moving closer, and these hogs never spook.

518
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: And what what had happened is that I had shot

519
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: this this big, this big sow hog, and those shows,

520
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: they were totally adult shelt shows. But I guess she

521
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: was the leader, and they were just hanging her and

522
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: hanging out around her and wouldn't run off. And I

523
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: watched them for probably an hour, thinking that they would

524
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: finally just leave, and they never left, and so I

525
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't recall what process was going on in

526
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: my mind, but UH put a knife in between my teeth,

527
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: and I got on my hands and knees, and I

528
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: wanted to see how close I could get to him.

529
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: What's up to the process that was going on? I

530
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: think I just I was just curious to see how

531
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: a little for us. I just wanted to see how

532
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: close I could get to him. And why I didn't

533
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: want to shoot another one, I don't know. But I

534
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: put a knife in my teeth and I started walking

535
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: towards them, grunting like a pig, and they let me

536
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: walk right in amongst them. And finally I got to

537
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: where I was within like five and six yards of

538
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: these pigs. And I think because their leader, I was crawled.

539
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: I was on my hands and knees. Did I say

540
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: walking second? Okay, I was. I was on my hands

541
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: and knees with a knife in my mouth, and I

542
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: got I mean right in amongst them, and I guess

543
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: they I guess they felt like their their leader wasn't

544
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: afraid because their leader is laying there on the ground

545
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: because I had shot her and you probably looked like

546
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: a pig. And and finally I got up and I

547
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: just ran them off. I just stood up, and how

548
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: I get out of here in any way? Recovered the hog,

549
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: and uh so I drugged the hog out, and when

550
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Dad came back at dark, we had a hog. Yeah.

551
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I pulled up. Man, it's a big old black hog there,

552
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: and I just I mean, it's a daddy. It was

553
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: pretty stinking cool. I mean, how many little ole kids

554
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: you throw out in the big hog woods? And they

555
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, you could have had probably five laying here

556
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: if you had wanted them. Yeah, and now I wish

557
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I had, now that we realized what a vermin they are.

558
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: I watched Rambo two early. That was right at the

559
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: peak of Rambo's influence on me Zack and Tyler's life.

560
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Rambo really had a big influence on Tyler. Tyler still

561
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: thinks about Rambo. Hey, Well, that that's a good that's

562
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a good place to tell you. I think I tell

563
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: this hog story almost every deer camp. But let me

564
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell it to you again, Atticus,

565
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: because this is your first time listen to this story.

566
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: One time Pap Paul found a bunch of hog sign

567
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: under some white oak trees because hogs love white oak acorns.

568
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: And we he found a bunch of hog sign and

569
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: he came and he said, Claire, there's a bunch of

570
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: hog sign up in this place. And I had my

571
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: cousin Todd Marriott with me, and Todd had never killed

572
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: a hog, and we're both hunting, and I said, hey, Todd,

573
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: we ought to go in there and hang double stands

574
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: and hunt those hogs and kill two at the same time. Well,

575
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: this was part of the story, was that we didn't

576
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: realize it was daylight Savings time. So that night when

577
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: we woke up, we woke up an hour early and

578
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: we went out early early in the morning and hung

579
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: these stands like two full hours before daylight. We weren't

580
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: trying to be that early, but it ended up working good, so, Uh,

581
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: day savings caught us. I remember that because we were like,

582
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: when is it gonna get daylight? It just never got daylight,

583
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: never got daylight. Finally we were like we we figured

584
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: it out well. So Todd Marriott and I are sitting

585
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: in a tree together, and sure enough, like clockwork, thirty

586
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: minutes after daylight, here comes a sal and some pretty

587
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: good sized shoots. Shouts are baby young hogs. Let's just

588
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: call him young hogs. And and I also want to

589
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: emphasize that these hogs have no regulation on them. They're

590
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: an invasive species and the gaming fish and everybody in

591
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: the world wants them all killed out. So we don't

592
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: have any problem at all shooting sal's and shooting young ones. Okay,

593
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: I just want to say that because no other big

594
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: game species do we manage that way, right, Like we

595
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: don't want to shoot young bears. We don't want to

596
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: shoot young deer necessarily, But hogs a different story. Do

597
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: y'all know that? Yeah? Okay, got you? So they're nuisanceentials.

598
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: So this this this sal with a bunch of shows

599
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: and a nice boar hog come in to our tree.

600
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just perfect. And I tell Todd, I say

601
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: you shoot the sal, I'm gonna shoot the boar. That

602
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,959
Speaker 1: was our agreement. I was gonna shoot the boar. And

603
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: and man, we had to get we had to get

604
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: our timing right. Because like his sal would be turned right,

605
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: but then my board would be turned wrong, and then

606
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: my boy would be turned right and his would be

607
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: turned wrong. And so we draw, and both of us

608
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: will be drawn, and we'll be like we'd be talking

609
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: to each other. I'm ready, I'm good, I'm good, and

610
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: he'd go, no, no, I gotta wait, gotta wait, got away,

611
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: And so we let down and we draw again, and finally,

612
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: after some cycle, both hogs got lined up just right,

613
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: and so we said one and we'd rehearse this one.

614
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: Two whack and man, I hit my hog just right

615
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: where I was aiming, just right behind the shoulder. Smack.

616
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: The hog squeals and runs off, and Todd missed the

617
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: south the sad the era just thuds into a tree

618
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: right underneath the pig in My pig just ran off, squealing,

619
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: and I was upset for Todd. I was like, dang, man,

620
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you missed, but I was pumped because I

621
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: had taken a super nice board. Had We're still mad

622
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: at We've never Todd, we've never forgiven you, buddy, and

623
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: so we're you know, we're kind of happy, but we're

624
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: kind of sad. We continued to hunt it was early

625
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: in the morning. Directly we hear hog grunting, and we

626
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: hear leaves crunching coming up from the mountain, coming up

627
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: from down below, and who was it? If it wasn't

628
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: the sal and the same shoots. They're they're not the

629
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: brightest town. Actually, it's pretty unusual. And here comes us

630
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: sound the same shows. And by this time I'm thinking, Okay,

631
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: we got a big boar hog that we gotta haul

632
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: out of here. Todd's not really that worried about killing

633
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: a pig. I said, Todd, you ought to shoot one

634
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: of those shows for for meat, and then that way

635
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: we just we got a nice showed for eating, and

636
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: then we got this boar hog. And he said, okay,

637
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll shoot the show. Well, shoot the show. He shoots

638
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: the show. He shoots the show, and all heck breaks

639
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: loose when that show starts squealing. Okay, show, it starts squealing.

640
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: And what do I hear down the mountain? I hear

641
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: what sounds like a freight train coming up the mountain, grutting, popping, chomping, stomping, romping,

642
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: brush crashing stuff. I hear something just from pounding up

643
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: the mountain coming directly to that show that's squealing. And

644
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: just like Papa said earlier that a board is made

645
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: for breeding and protection, here comes a huge boarhog and

646
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I think, dad gum, this is my lucky day. I

647
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: grabbed another Era and I'm about to kill two. And man,

648
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: he comes up there and he is woofing and popping,

649
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: and he is spinning circles around that pig, just looking

650
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: for whatever is hurting it. I mean he was I

651
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: guess he was expecting to see a coyote or something

652
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: chewing on his back leg. And he is going nuts

653
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: and there's just chaos and Sue and you know, the

654
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: other shows are running around, the salves running around, and

655
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: this board had come out of nowhere. Man, I knock

656
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: an Era draw down on him and I mean just

657
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: tendering this pig, and it runs off down the mountain

658
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the same way the other one did. Man. Todd and

659
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: I are high fiving in the tree. We're like, yes,

660
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: we got this shoat and we killed two big boar

661
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: hogs with the bow. We're excited. That's a good story, right, Okay.

662
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: We get down out of the tree and I say,

663
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: which hog are we gonna track first? Todd, and we're like, well,

664
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: why don't we track the first one shot Clay. That's

665
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: a good idea, Todd. So we start tracking blood right

666
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: from the tree. What's that? Nope, that was it. So

667
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: we start tracking blood and we track it down the mountain.

668
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: We're following good blood, following good blood, following good blood,

669
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the blood starts to turn

670
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: to the left and hook to the left, and it

671
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 1: goes to the left, and I go, hah, this pig

672
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: is kind of going back over a little bit by

673
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: the tree stand And all of a sudden, the blood

674
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: trail turns and starts coming up the mountain and comes

675
00:38:54,280 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: directly back to the tree. What happened the pig? What

676
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: was it that was running in circles going crazy? It

677
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: was the same pig. How do y'all know that? Y'all

678
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: know that because I told that story before going I mean, like,

679
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: it was like so predictable. It was just it's just

680
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: thrashing your storytelling that, Come on, man, No, So so

681
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: it was the same pig. I shot him like perfect,

682
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: and he ran off down the mountain and he came back.

683
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: And then listen to that, listen to this. This was

684
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: early in the morning, and we blood trailed that pig

685
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: till three pm. And I jumped him up alive in

686
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: a clear cut at three pm, setting in a bed

687
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: of blood about as big as a silver dollar. And

688
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: here's what happened is, at the time, we were shooting

689
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: those jack camera broadheads that were so good for deer

690
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: wash jacket not good. Yeah, And I told you to

691
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: do that too, and they're they were awesome on deer

692
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: they bloon out real big, but for hogs that were terrible. Yeah.

693
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: I was shooting a sixty five pound um high country bow,

694
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: which you know was a full size, hard shooting bow,

695
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: and man, I just didn't get any penetration into that shield.

696
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: A boar has a big cardlet shield right behind his shoulder,

697
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: and never found that pig. And boys, let me tell

698
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: you what. That bow would kill a cake buffalo. Okay,

699
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: that just tells you how how how tough these hogs are.

700
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: So this is like a bow that would shoot hard,

701
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: was shooting through stuff and it didn't kill that stinking pig. Anyway,

702
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: that's my pig story. That's a tough one. I got

703
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: a story. They'll put that story to shame. Hey, you guys,

704
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: listen to the story. I don't know if you've ever

705
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: heard it, but when Clay Baby was young, it was

706
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: real fun being his day's real fun with that r

707
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: Zach all did cool stuff. Of course, I like to hunt.

708
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: So Clay was really the hunter, and he he'd bring

709
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: rattlesnake home. He'd come into bedroom at two o'clock, knock

710
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: on the door, Hey, Dad, come out, look look at

711
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: this ice chest. Sure he's got rattle snakes, copper heads.

712
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: I mean, why do you catch snakes? Well, anyway, he's

713
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: always doing stuff like that. Well, I'm out in the mountains.

714
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: We're not in this easy hunting. I mean, this is

715
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: deep into the mountains. And I go Clay. But I

716
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: come home, I go, Clay Baby, I found I found

717
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: some good bucks. I mean, there's there's a good buck

718
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: in this area. And I told him how to get

719
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: to it. You had to have a jeep or four

720
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: wheel or to get in there, or walk for about

721
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: for two a couple of miles. And so anyway, he

722
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: goes in there, and uh, you know, he comes home

723
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: and he walks in the house just like always, and

724
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: I go, well, I want to hear a story. He was, well,

725
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: I killed I killed the deer, and uh, just like

726
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't know for you being cool, I never did ask.

727
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you've been so anyway. You had

728
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: that green Chevy trucks which you had nice big heavy

729
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: forward you know, four wheel drive set up high anyway,

730
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: so you're able to get in there. Well, I go

731
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: out to that truck and looking the back and there's

732
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: a little buck in a turkey with a ten inch beard.

733
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: You remember that. So I go back in the house.

734
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: I said, club, baby, I mean, you just walked in

735
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: the house like nothing happened, and there's a deer in

736
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: a turkey in the back of your truck with a

737
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: bowling arrow, wasn't it Yeah? And I go, I mean

738
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: and he just was, it's no big deal. And he said, well,

739
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: he said, I went to that stand like you told me,

740
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: and on the way this this deer was right close

741
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: to me, and I just shot it. And I went

742
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: ahead and got on the stand and got the buck.

743
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: Later and he said, a turkey came by and it

744
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: was real foggy. Best I remember. Let me, let me

745
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: stop you, because this is what happened is I was

746
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: on that four wheel drive road, so it was perfectly

747
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: it was perfectly legal. It wasn't like a county road.

748
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm driving up this four wheel drive road and this

749
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: is National Forest and I see it deer across the road.

750
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: And I mean back in those days there weren't a

751
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 1: lot of deer in the National Forest. It's a pretty

752
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: big deal. Just see a deer. And I mean we

753
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: were just meeting hunting and we were just trying to

754
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: kill a deer. Man. I got out of the truck

755
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: and this deer just went off and was standing there

756
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: thirty yards away. And again I'm not on a county road.

757
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 1: I mean I'm on like a trail. Yeah. I get

758
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: out of the truck, walk around in the front of

759
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: the truck, step off the side of the road, and

760
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: the deer still standing there at thirty yards. I shoot

761
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the deer. And I was going hunting, and I remember

762
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I just ten ring the deer, and I just knew

763
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: that it was gonna die quick, and so I didn't

764
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: even wait for it. I mean, it ran off and

765
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: I was hot on its hills, and about the time

766
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: that it slid into the dirt, I was grabbing it

767
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: up by the hoofs, dragging it back through it in

768
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: the truck and then went hunting. Yeah, so he goes hunting,

769
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: and I don't know what happened, but from a dad's perspective,

770
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: this is what happened. He's in a tree stand probably up.

771
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: Turkey comes in. This is where all the big buck

772
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: sign was, and it was foggy and I think maybe

773
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: even a nice deer might have come by. Anyway, he

774
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: kills runs a good duck up there. Yeah. Yeah, it

775
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: was good stuff. And so this turkey comes up and

776
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: he shoots his turkey and uh, the turkey runs off.

777
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: Well he climbs out of the tree, right, yeah, I

778
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: go to look for the turkey. Yeah, so he comes down,

779
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: goes look for the turkey with a turkey runs straight

780
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: to this pig trail and it's just sitting there like

781
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: flew it flew. Do you remember when I shot at it?

782
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Just pitched the story from here because it's just crazy.

783
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the story? This is the you

784
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: wrote about this story? Yeah, we had like I don't

785
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: even remember what the prompt was, but I wrote about

786
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: it and got a really great great let me tell

787
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: you why this story is important. It's because at the

788
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: time I was dating Misty many of you. Here's mother,

789
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: many of you's and many of you school principle, and

790
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: I came back from this hunt and I told Misty

791
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: about it, and that was the That was like the

792
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: icing on the cake that Misty was like, I like

793
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: this guy for real. And I actually took the deer

794
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: in the turkey over at her house. So there's there's

795
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot of play here, guys, especially for you who's

796
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: this woman is their mother? Hey, let's get back to

797
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: the real deal. So I can tell Okay, I can

798
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: tell it. So here's what happened. Is this big turkey

799
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: comes walking up the hill. We had a fall turkey

800
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: season at that time. We don't anymore here in the

801
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: wash Toss. I shoot at this turkey at about twenty

802
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: four yards across this little drainage, and I miss, I miss,

803
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: But the arrow hits the other side of the bank,

804
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the turkey. So the turkey

805
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: perceives that the danger is on the opposite sides of

806
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: the turkey, jumps straight up in the air about twelve

807
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: feet and hits the ground and comes running straight towards me. Okay,

808
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: so the sound was, y'all get that I shot? Well,

809
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the turkey comes back and what I was good at

810
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: back in those days was grabbing another ERA. So I

811
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: grabbed another ERA and it came right up onto the

812
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: stand and I shot it again. And man, that turkey

813
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: turned around. And I was sitting on the side of

814
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: this beautiful mountain and you could look kind of across

815
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: this valley, and man, that turkey just pitched out of

816
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: there like an airplane taking off, and just he just

817
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: spread his wings and he just sailed out across there.

818
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: And if you hunt turkeys very much, you know that

819
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: that's a bad deal because turkeys don't bleed, and you

820
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: can't find them if they get away from you pretty

821
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: much with a bow and ara, a turkey needs to,

822
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, die pretty quickly or you have a hard

823
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: time recovering them. Well, I continue to deer hunt and

824
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: it starts to get dark, and I go, man, I

825
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: better get down and start looking for that turkey. The

826
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: woods were wet, it was it had been raining. And

827
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: remember I've got a deer in the truck too. And

828
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: I get down and I started making some loops down

829
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: off where I saw this turkey flying. I can't find it,

830
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: can't find it. I actually go back to the truck

831
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: and I put my bow in the truck, and I think, man,

832
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go one more time up in this little

833
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: area and just see if I can find that turkey. Remember,

834
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: the woods are wet, so you can walk like super quiet.

835
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: And you remember how I was teaching you to walk today, Atticus. Yeah,

836
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: And I was walking like that. And I was walking

837
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like I come into view

838
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: of this little pocket that's in a thicket, like probably

839
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: eight to ten feet from me. I come around like

840
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: this corner of vegetation, and I see the turkey, and

841
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: the turkey is laying there with his head up on

842
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: the ground and his eyes closed. I was close enough

843
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I could see his eyeballs and they were close so

844
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: I can see as I lived right well, I freeze

845
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: in the truck, is like maybe not that far away,

846
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: And I think, let me go back to the truck

847
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: and get my bow, or should I just bum rush

848
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: this turkey and catch it? Always go with the man.

849
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: I watched that turkey's eyes pop open. He pops open,

850
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: he looks at me, and he jumps up and takes

851
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: off running like he's not even hurt. And he is

852
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: running down the mountain, And what choice. Did I have, guys,

853
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: what chase him? Man? I took after that turkey, running

854
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: through briars, jumping over rocks, jumping over logs, and we're

855
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: running downhill and that turkey is gaining ground on me.

856
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: He's getting further and further and further away, and I'm

857
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: just thinking, Dad gum, this turkey is gonna get away

858
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: from me. I'm running, I'm running, I'm running. I'm running.

859
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: We get all the way to the bottom of the mountain,

860
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: where the turkey has no choice but to go back

861
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: up the other mountain. And I don't really know how

862
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: far it was. I should go back there to really see.

863
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: It was like we were running for days, but it

864
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: probably wasn't. We start. We get to the bottom and

865
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: then we start to go up the next ridge and

866
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: where I'm running, running, and I start to gain on

867
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that turkey, and I remember what it felt like when

868
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: I started to gain on it. It was just like

869
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch you, you sucker. And I'm running, running, running, gaining, gaining, gaining, gaining,

870
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: and finally I get about five ft from him, and

871
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: I just dive airborne and just wrap that turkey up,

872
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: poof and slam onto the ground, and both of us

873
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: are so tired. He's got his head up looking at

874
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: me and the eyeballs and I and I it's that

875
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: same eyeball that I saw pop open and look at

876
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: me is now about two inches from my eyeball. And

877
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: we're laying there. And I was so tired that I

878
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: did don't even do anything, just keep him wrapped up.

879
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: I just breathe and he was breathing, and uh. I

880
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: dispatched the turkey, quickly, threw it in the truck, drove home,

881
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: showed hers a dad, and then took it to Misty's

882
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: house and showed her. And so that's why all you

883
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: kids are here. Is this the first time in Bare

884
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: Honey magazine history that the nickname clay Baby has come out?

885
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: That this isn't the first time, of course, it's the

886
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: first time. That's important. I guess that's what happens at

887
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: this deer cab. Oh jeez, well that was that was

888
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: the iconic moment. Iconic moment. Well, what are iconic stories

889
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: happened down here? That I had one about you? And

890
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: you know it didn't need to be about me out

891
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: but there most of them were, and I forgot it.

892
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: But I think of it in a minute. So let

893
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: me tell you a story that I listened. I never

894
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: read about deer hunting and never watched stuff, But recently,

895
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: just the last two or three weeks, I've been watching

896
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: videos of these guys. Tell them about how to deer

897
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: hunt and the stuff I've experienced in seeing They don't

898
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: talk about it, but I'm gonna tell you that this

899
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: this happened to me. What I was fot up on

900
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: the mountain, It took me two and a half hours

901
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: to get there, Clay and get there an hour and

902
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: a half, and uh, I was doing a practice run,

903
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: and I knew where the deer were, kind of knew

904
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: what they were doing, and I didn't. I was lazy.

905
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get up real early. So I

906
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: got up about eleven or got into the woods. It

907
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: was gonna do an afternoon hunt. I already had a

908
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: forty pounds that this place was so hot. I carried

909
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: a forty pound ambush are upside of that mount with

910
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: an old buddy of mine. Basically a two hour walking

911
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: and where you're hunting, well two and a half for me.

912
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, I got to stand up, and I don't

913
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: stand up you know, I probably could have killed twice

914
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: a dear if I could stand up, but I was

915
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: always afraid to stand up when you shut long story

916
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: of the reason on that way. But anyway, so I'm

917
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: sitting on the stand and I had heard the tape.

918
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: I swear I have turned. I've looked all through my house,

919
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: I've gone there. I'd pay I'd pay a thousand dollars

920
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: to have this little tape. And I can't even remember

921
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: the guy's name. And he he told of a call,

922
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: two calls that I used, and one of them was

923
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: what he called a dominant button grunt. And no one

924
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: I knew knew this call. No one talks about it

925
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: on TV, on YouTube, never heard. Well, I get up

926
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: on the stand and I mean, you've got little old

927
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: bitty trees twenty ft tall. I mean, that's how high

928
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: you are in Arkansas is pretty big mountain. It's about

929
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: the third fourth tallest spot in Arkansas. And so I'm

930
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: sitting on this ambusher and I'm on a V tree

931
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: because there's no trees big enough to handle it. And

932
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm right at the V and and I pull out

933
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: my rattling horns and I mean, I don't know what happened,

934
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: But it was like it was scary. I mean, chill

935
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: bumps when I think about it, I feel them right now.

936
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean when I hit those horns, chill bumps for

937
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: going up my back. I mean it was like I

938
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: was killing those horns. And I took that grunt call

939
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: and I did exactly what that guy said to do.

940
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: And here's the call. Did they tell you not to

941
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: do this unless you're after the biggest buck in the woods.

942
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: And it goes, it goes, it's along and it crescendos

943
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: at the end, and I, well, let me tell you,

944
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: I did this thinking call and I'd rattle those horns,

945
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: and I mean it was I've never been able to

946
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: copy what I did physically. I mean it was. It was.

947
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: I was so into it. And all of a sudden,

948
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 1: behind me, I hear a deer making the same call,

949
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: except he was a little too short. He was going,

950
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: and I thought, that's just thinking a little six point.

951
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna monkey with him. There's nowhere I'm

952
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: will shoot a six point on this mountain. So I

953
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: just turned around and there's a little football bump behind me,

954
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: and this thing is flat like a football field, and

955
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: this one little bump. I just turned around and it vitrie.

956
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: Now Clay would have been up and you know he

957
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 1: would have been at full draw. He'd have kill this buck. Well,

958
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: it ain't my style. So I'm just looking back, thinking,

959
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: here's a little six point coming. He's going. He was

960
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: a little short, you know, he's monkeying up. I'll be

961
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: honest with you, I was doing it right. So he

962
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: comes around the corner and this suckers a hundred forty plus.

963
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: He's got horns sticking way up here. I am pointed

964
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: the wrong way and I'm looking back, afraid to stand

965
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: up on that ambusher. And he pulls up about thirty

966
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: yards right at the end of that football, and his

967
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: horns were tall. They caught up in the trees, you know,

968
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean there, you know he was. They were that

969
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: his horns were taught, and uh, he's disappeared and never

970
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: made nothing sound. But it was the one of the

971
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: most exciting hunts I've ever been on. And he it was.

972
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: And I mean, trust me, they make that call. If

973
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: you do it on a little buck, he's gonna run

974
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: off big bucks. He came in with his ears back,

975
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: his hair up, making that same call I was making,

976
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 1: but he monkeyed it up a little bit, a little

977
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: too short. So anyway, Clay listened to these stories about

978
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: stuff I was encountering up there in the bear that

979
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: would tear my stuff up that I had to leave

980
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: up there, and he never was interested. And uh, anyway,

981
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: I hunted there a couple of years and learned a

982
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: lot about the mountain, and then when Clay got older,

983
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: he started killing stuff up there. So anyway, that was

984
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: a tremendous hunt that really wasn't iconic hunt because you

985
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: found that there sheds up there, which well I found

986
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: a ship, it wasn't his. I mean, his shed was huge,

987
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: was a heck of a shed you did find. Yeah,

988
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: the bucks the sheds I found were one thirty fives.

989
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: He made those look like he was not quite as

990
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: big as a bucking Howard County, but well, yeah, you

991
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: know he was. He was. They probably would scored about

992
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: the same, but I don't know if they were different.

993
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: You know, I think what's cool about all these stories

994
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: is that these are the stories that it made deep

995
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: impressions on me as kid growing up and as a

996
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: as a as a teenager. And what you don't realize

997
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: is that some of these stories that you're living out

998
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: become iconic stories for your life, and sometimes you don't

999
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: realize it until it's it's it's already done and you

1000
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of grow up and you start telling these stories

1001
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: over and over. But at the time, those were just

1002
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of normal hunts, you know. Yeah, you know. Another

1003
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: thing this guy taught me on that tape was an

1004
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: Estrius grunt. And it's not the same grunt that I'm

1005
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: here and taught in, the same grunt that I use.

1006
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: I've had a whole lot of luck with with with

1007
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: a what I call attending grunt, which I'm not sure

1008
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: what I'm doing is attending grunt, but that's what I

1009
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: call it, a little just short, choppy grunts because that's

1010
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: what I hear Bucks doing. And then Estris bleak and

1011
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean certain years, you know, I mean I'd call

1012
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: Clay every day and I'd go dead. Gum. I had

1013
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: of were Bucks around me, and I killed a little

1014
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, a decent eight point or I missed a

1015
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: ten point or you know, using that using that sequence.

1016
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: But um, when this guy told me this call, I

1017
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: was using stuff I was hearing on on YouTube or

1018
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: on videos. But this guy that had this little c D.

1019
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: He had another call, and a friend of mine and

1020
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: I went to Missouri and we hunted to or three

1021
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: different places, and everywhere we went, no one would be

1022
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: there'd be twenty camps. No one was killing deer. And

1023
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: my friend Mesco and I we would scout. I set

1024
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: up and I used this estrus bleak, and I swear

1025
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: this buck went nuts. He immediately got up out of

1026
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: his bed that looked to me like and started scraping

1027
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: and rubbing trees. And when he got through, he came

1028
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: right to me. He was a big old body, dear.

1029
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: His worms were just decent, and he came right to

1030
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: my stand when he got through. And it was because

1031
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: of this call. And you know, back then, the nineties

1032
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: was when Colin started becoming really popular, and it wasn't

1033
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: a thing until then. And I think that's why all

1034
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: this impressed you and impacted you so much back in

1035
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: the day. And I mean we we all we use

1036
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: these calls now, but back then it was almost like magic.

1037
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Because anybody knows this this tape, I mean I would

1038
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: I'd easily give somebody a hundred bucks for copy that

1039
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for a copy of the tape. Yeah, who

1040
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: give Gary? You know, I mean I learned two calls

1041
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: from him, and I mean when I used them that

1042
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, not every time obviously, but but but they

1043
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: worked in Uh so, hey, Atticus, remember when we found

1044
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: that rub today, the deer rub on the tree? What

1045
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: do we say? That meant? Actually? What I try to

1046
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: impress the girl? That's it. That's it. Yeah, we were

1047
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: we were finding rubs and they were asking what they meant.

1048
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: So I said, it's just the boys. We kind of

1049
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: had a little skit we did. It's pretty informative. Count

1050
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: uh back. You know, Clay learned how a turkey hunt

1051
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: in one year. He was really better than I was

1052
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: after ten or fifteen years of turkey in it because

1053
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want I didn't I wanted to do my

1054
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: own thing. I didn't want somebody to go with me

1055
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: and call a bird in. So it took me a

1056
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: long time to learn it. Finally I got where I

1057
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: can kill one or two birds a year with a gun.

1058
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: And then I bow hunt. And so I was at

1059
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: one day with my bowl and uh, I was going

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01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: up a mountain and I was real tired and I stopped.

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01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: I remember drinking I drank a coke and then I

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01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: sit back and I called, and I heard two birds

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: up above me, two or three. I couldn't see them,

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01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: and they they came around and they did exactly what

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01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: the textbook said, a bird will not come down to you.

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: So he went way down the mountain. He came down,

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: he got below me. Only one came in. It was

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01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: a big gobbler. He came in strutting, drumming, putting a

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: show on. Well, there happened to be a log there

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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: that was about fourteen sixteen inches laid across with briar

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: thicket on both ends. In this turkey got the strutting

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01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: on the other side of that log. And I'm going like,

1073
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: holy cow, look at this bird. He's gonna be in

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01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: my freezer here for long. And so man, I'm watching

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01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: him and he he struts up this log and then

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01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: he turns and fans and I'm thinking, this looks like

1077
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: an opportunity. And he goes down. He does the same thing,

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: comes back something and second time that's his deal, boy,

1079
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: And man, I've draw back. And when he does his turn,

1080
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: and his fan as soon as he comes back, almost

1081
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: shot his head off with a with that big old

1082
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: jack hammer, and I mean he didn't go nowhere, boy,

1083
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: And uh so anyway, I mean need to kill a curtain.

1084
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: But see that was you were you killed a turkey

1085
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: on the ground without a blind with a boat back

1086
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: before people were doing it. Yeah, I don't want to

1087
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: this day. I mean, boy, if you can just kill

1088
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: him off the ground. And so anyway, it's time went on.

1089
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: I hated just to kill one bird. You know, you

1090
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: just think it's luck. But over the years, you know,

1091
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: the maybe four years where turkey it was so good

1092
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: you could do that that, uh you know, I had

1093
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: opportunities to kill probably three or four turkeys, and I

1094
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: knew a lot of guys that had killed a lot,

1095
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen or twenty doing that same thing. So

1096
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't very good at it. Here. Well, I met

1097
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: some guys in some of the bigger cities that said

1098
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: that they do that. They might have a blind, I

1099
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: don't know. But anyway, you know, i'd either miss or

1100
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: misjudge or you know, something would happen. But you know,

1101
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: with a little luck, I could have killed three or

1102
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: four with a with a bow. But that one was

1103
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: just so much fun because you know, the way he

1104
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: strutted and how that was an iconic Turkey story. I

1105
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: remember that, I remember it. Well, Hey, we've gone over

1106
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: an hour here, and uh, I need a little just

1107
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of feedback from from these guys, any

1108
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: closing comments from Uncle Tyler. What do you think? Well,

1109
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: I would say I was oblivious to a lot of

1110
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: those stories. Um, A part of me wonders why I

1111
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: didn't get pulled into the hunting culture. You know, whoa

1112
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: whoa whoa deep. Yeah, but I'm not blaming you guys,

1113
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty amazed at what's been going on out there.

1114
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's awesome watching Rambo when you get

1115
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: I gotta I just gotta tell this one story. You

1116
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: might have to make this three to get your own podcast, man,

1117
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: get cut it in two or three. But this one

1118
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: was this, This was the good one that I thought,

1119
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: you know when podcast Clay Baby and I'm I'm hoping

1120
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: I'll be in the movies maybe next time. This is

1121
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: your smoker. So anyway, we we my good friend and

1122
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: I we rode these bunshees. If you know what a

1123
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: banshee is, it's the hottest thing you could buy. Really,

1124
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it was up there yeah, and we wrote

1125
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: them pretty hard too. And uh anyway, when I wasn't riding,

1126
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Clay would write it. So we had a big ride

1127
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: one day and Clay was on the Benshee and and

1128
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm with my brother in law and the kids are

1129
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: out run in front. Of course, Clay's screaming his banshee. Well,

1130
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: we topped a hill. I see my bunshee where the

1131
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: fenders laying on the ground, and my boy's not on it.

1132
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean, daddy's like going home to kill the kid.

1133
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: What's wrong with him? So I pull up, get the

1134
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: looking around. He is in the creek with the deer.

1135
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: He's got a deer with a with a headlock on it,

1136
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: with his pocket knife out. He's not saying a word.

1137
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: He's just wrestling this deer. He's and he finally gets

1138
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: this throat cut and and I go, clue, baby, what

1139
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: in the world happened? And he goes, well, it's a

1140
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: little sucker ran into him. I was going about fifty

1141
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: five and this guy just swammed right between the fenders

1142
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: and he said he was alive, and he started running off.

1143
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: I can't even kill him with my knife. I forgot

1144
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: about that. I go, man, you can't make this stuff up, man,

1145
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, anyway, we took that little deal. Mean, it

1146
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: wasn't real small, but it was. It was a year.

1147
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: We didn't want it to ruin our hunts, so we

1148
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: rolled it up in were right. Yeah, we rolled it

1149
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: up in a tarp and we rode over to a

1150
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: buddy of mine's cabin and he happened to be there

1151
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: and we gave it to him. But you know that

1152
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: was just And what was strange. It's about a month

1153
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: before that I hit a deer but it didn't kill

1154
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: it on that same banshee, And you know that was

1155
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: another story. But and then you sold it. Do you

1156
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: remember that spooked you? I mean that was the beginning

1157
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: of the end of fast forward. Right, Well, it wouldn't

1158
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: end because we still well, well, well you're right for

1159
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: for me though, yeah, for me it was. And now

1160
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: our riding mules, we went bad on boys the other direction.

1161
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah to anyone. Well, alright. Closing comments Tyrrell Dennison about

1162
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: the deer camp this year, Um, deer camps always great,

1163
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: Always glad to be here and always glad for the stories.

1164
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: Glad for the story. Man. You almost made one to day.

1165
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: It was close. Do you know the hog story happened

1166
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: exactly where you miss that dear this morning? Yeah? No, yes,

1167
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: River closing comments, No, Rivers got some good stories. How's

1168
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: your head? All these people that listen to the podcasts

1169
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: heard about your mule accident? Yeah, your daddy lets you

1170
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: ride wild mules. My daddy let me ride wild forward

1171
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: Uncle Zack closing comments, no comments, no common bar Sadly

1172
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: they have nothing. What did you enjoy those stories? Yes? Liam,

1173
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: do you enjoy that? Yes? Oh, Liam's tired. Liam's tired.

1174
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: I thought we were going coon hunt. Shepherds asleep? Ixter.

1175
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: You're looking a little glazed over. Do you want to go? Yes?

1176
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: You want to We got the dogs down here, we

1177
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: may go coon hunt? All right? Hey, thanks for listening

1178
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: to the Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. Hey, do us all

1179
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: a favor? Do us all a favor? What could they

1180
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: do that would help? Like and subscribe? What could they do? River?

1181
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1182
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: only what bear hunting magazine or in the world. That's correct,

1183
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: you kind of stuttered there, The only old bear hunting

1184
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1185
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1186
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Speaker 1: Did y'all know that they can find this podcast on

1187
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,440
Speaker 1: pretty much every major podcast. I mean, it's on Spotify,

1188
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Speaker 1: it's on Apple Play, it's on all the Yeah, so

1189
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Speaker 1: the Sportsman's Nation is pretty cool deal that old Dan

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Speaker 1: Johnson's doing. All right. Hey, thanks guys, thanks for listening

1191
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: to Baronning Magazine podcast. And keep the Wild Places wild

1192
01:08:54,840 --> 01:09:05,400
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