1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: This is breaking news from Bloomberg. We are seeing a 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: sharp cell often stocks around the world with President Trump 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: said to follow through on his threat of tariffs against 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: America's closest trading partners. On Saturday, the President announced twenty 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: five percent duties on products from Canada and Mexico and 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: ten percent on China, starting just after midnight tonight. Trump 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 2: admits American consumers might take a hit. 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: We may have short term so a little pain, and 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: people understand that. But long term, the United States has 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: been ripped off by virtually every country in the world. 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: We have deficits with almost every country, not every country. 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: But all most and Republican lawmakers are signaling they support 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: the president's efforts. Senator Lindsey Graham had this reaction on 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: Fox News Sunday. 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: If you want tariffs to go away, Mexico and China, 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 4: stop poising Americans, stop sending ventanyl into America to kill Americans. 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: If you want to have a better relationship in Mexico 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 4: with the United States, do your report on the other 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: side of the border. 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: But Democratic Senator Mark Warner says tariffs amount to what 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: he calls a Donald Trump Super Bowl tax less than 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: a week before the big game. Remember, Donald Trump got 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: hired trying to lower grow saying he was going to 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: lower grocery prices. 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: Right two weeks in, He's doing something that's going to 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: do the absolute opposite. 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 2: Senator Warner spoke to CBS as Margaret Brennan on Face 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: the Nation, and you can hear both Face the Nation 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: and Fox News Sunday every Sunday on Bloomberg Radio. 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: Well, Nathan Trump says he will have separate calls this 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 5: morning with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as well as 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 5: with the Mexican leadership. The Canadian leader has already pledged 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 5: twenty five percent retaliatory tariffs on one hundred and seven 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: billion dollars worth of US goods. Trudeau says Trump's action 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: now risks job losses and price rises for Americans. 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 6: If President Trump wants to usher in a new golden 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 6: age for the United States, the better path is to 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 6: partner with Canada, not to punish US. 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 5: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trude do other Canadian officials announce 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 5: their own measures. David Eby, the Premiere of British Columbia, 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 5: directed to provincially owned a liquor distributor, to remove some 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 5: alcohol brands made in Republican led States from the shelves 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: of retail stores and to cease further purchases. 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, as you mentioned, Karen, the PAESO is dropping to 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: its lowest level in almost three years. Mexican President Claudia 47 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Shanbaum says she'll set out her response to US tariffs 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: later today. She says she hopes a resolution can be 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: found quickly. 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: That's a bit Anian noise. 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 4: Nibo sovereignty is not negotiable to this end. 52 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Yesterday, in my statement, I proposed to President Trump, though 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: we establish a working group, it is not with the 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: imposition of tariffs that the problems are resolved, but speaking 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: and dialoguing. 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 7: As we did. 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Mexican President Claudia Shanbaum spoke there through an interpreter. President 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: Trump has said he may escalate US tariff's further in 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: response to any retalients. 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: Well Nathan, China's reaction to Trump's tariffs, which come in 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 5: the middle of Lunar New Year holiday celebrations, has been 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 5: more muted. The country's Commerce Ministry issued a statement expressing 63 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 5: strong dissatisfaction and vowing corresponding countermeasures without elaborating. Our Chief 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: North Asia correspondent Stephen Engels says China's reaction could yet 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 5: ramp up. 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 6: This is going to be a protracted process, so Beijing 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: has to process exactly what's going to be the end 68 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 6: result of tariffs. Is it going to go up to 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 6: sixty percent? It's ten percent right now, and there's going 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 6: to be an economic impact to that. And I think 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 6: right now, especially as they're coming out of the long 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: Lunar New Year holiday, kind of crafting their message obviously. 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 5: And Leutz Bloomberg Steven Angel are reporting from Hong Kong. 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: And after he announced those duties on China, Mexico and Canada, Karen, 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: President Trump also ramped up threats to the European Union, 76 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: citing that block's large surplus with the US. 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: It will definitely happen with the European Union, I can 78 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: tell you that because they've taken advantage of US. Said, 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: you know, we have over three hundred billion dollar deficit. 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: They don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products. 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: They take almost nothing, and we take everything from the 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: millions of cars, tremendous amounts of food and farm product. 83 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: President Trump's remarks came after an EU spokesperson said that 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: the BLOCK would respond firmly to any trading partner that 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: unfairly or arbitrarily imposes tariffs on EU goods. 86 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: Well, Nathan, President Trump's tariffs against Canada and Mexico may 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: result in consumers paying more for cars, and we get 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: that angle up the tariff story with Bloomberg's John Tucker 89 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 5: and John how much are we talking about here? 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 8: Well, Karen Research from automotive consultant Alex Partners says the 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 8: tariffs will add sixty billion dollars in cost to the 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 8: auto industry, a lot of which likely to be passed 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 8: on to consumers. Wolf Research analysts so the average price 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 8: of a new car may climb by about three thousand dollars. 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 8: The duties would immediately hit almost a quarter of the 96 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 8: sixteen million vehicles that are sold in the US every year, 97 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 8: as well as the parts and components that go into them. Now, 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 8: car components can make their way back and forth across 99 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 8: the US borders as many as eight times during the 100 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 8: production of the car. Automakers in Mexico they've been preparing 101 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 8: by preemptively importing both more components and vehicles that could 102 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 8: ease the blow in the first few weeks. But Flavio Volpi, 103 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 8: he's the president of Canada's Automotive Parts Manufacturers Association, predicts 104 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 8: his words now the auto sector is going to shut 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 8: down within a week. This morning, shares of GM down 106 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 8: seven percent, Stalantes is off almost six percent, and Ford 107 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 8: is down four percent. John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 109 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Dabreak. 111 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. President Donald Trump's promise of 112 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: tariffs on America's closest trading partners is rippling through markets. 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: After announcing twenty five percent duties on Canada and Mexico 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: and ten percent on China, the President says the European 115 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: Union is next. 116 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: They don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products, 117 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: they take almost nothing. Can we take everything? 118 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: From? 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 2: The President spoke to reporters outside Washington last night. Joining 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: us this morning from the nation's capital, Terry Haynes, the 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: founder of Pangaea Policy. As we watch stocks sell off 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: and the dollar rally this morning, Terry, Should the market 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: have seen this coming? 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 7: Good morning, Hi, Good morning, Nathan, And yes, I think 125 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 7: they should have. Markets have spent the last few months 126 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 7: talking themselves into a gradualistory even you know, this isn't happening. 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 7: It's all negotiation stance, and yes it is negotiation, but 128 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 7: it's negotiation based not from a trade war perspective, but 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 7: I think from an overall conflict perspective, a broader geopolitical context, 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 7: among others. 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: So what is the chance, then, Terry, that the president 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: that it actually does follow through on these He announced 133 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: they're going to kick in just after midnight tonight. At 134 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: the same time he's saying that he will have discussions 135 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: with Canada and Mexico today. 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 7: I think the markets should assume that some tariffs are coming. 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 7: I think the size and shape are still very much 138 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 7: up in the air, and markets are going to have 139 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 7: to get used to volatility here. Frankly, in the realm 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 7: of political decision making. You know, my instinct, and it 141 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 7: is only instinct, is that it's not at all beyond 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 7: the question that the tariffs go in as announced. It's 143 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 7: also not beyond the question that they go in with 144 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 7: some lowered modifications. You can look One way you can 145 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 7: look at this is Trump testing the markets on reaction, 146 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 7: and he's also testing politically the reaction of our border 147 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 7: partners to do specific things to actually improve the border 148 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 7: and stop the flow of fentanyl. 149 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Is this a test on fellow Republicans as well? 150 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 7: It is to some extent, yes, but I think it's 151 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 7: in so far they've been supportive. But what you got 152 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 7: to remember over the last decade, and it's been a 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 7: decade since since tariff policy became part of geopolitical policy 154 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 7: in the United States, is that Congress has has supported 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 7: the means in which the how Trump imposes these tariffs, 156 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 7: whether it was Trump won, whether it was Biden when 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 7: then now whether it's Trump too. You know, Congress supports 158 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 7: the how. There will be some dissent on the when 159 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 7: or why. That's rooted as much in the partisan politics 160 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 7: as anything else. But there's not going to be any 161 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 7: serious move to try to stop Trump from doing any 162 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 7: of these things. 163 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: Do you think there are any further concessions that Canada 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: or Mexico could make after the concessions that they've say 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: that they have made even before the President announced these duties, 166 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: over the weekend. 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 7: My unsolicited advice to those countries is very simple is 168 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 7: that as you get as specific if they want to 169 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 7: stop the tariffs, get as specific, and to talk about 170 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 7: how well and how much you can partner as possible. 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 7: If Trump realizes, I think, unlike the first that he's 172 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 7: going to need support from his border partners and very 173 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 7: much wants those things. 174 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: And in just thirty seconds, is this about partnerships? Is 175 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: this about the fentanyl and immigration flows or is this 176 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: more about the trade deficits. 177 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 7: I think it's about both. But at root, you know, 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 7: Trump always says that his top priority is securing the border, 179 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 7: and I think you have to take the border strategy 180 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 7: both seriously and literally as part of the broader geopolitical 181 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 7: strategy and the broader economic strategy which are out there, 182 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 7: which exists, even if they're being ignored by markets. 183 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: Today. 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