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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Oh all yeah, Anna said, yeah wow, we got calling

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Speaker 4: It's Friday, guys, It's September twenty third, the year of

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Speaker 4: might say, the best damn combat sports show.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 4: We got the awards to prove it. This here is

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Speaker 4: Morning Combat. I'm Brian Campbell. That Beije Bastard the BBC

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Speaker 4: with the BDE. If you will some have My partner

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Speaker 4: in crime today is the best damn non fighting fight analyst.

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Speaker 4: Of all the people who know a lot of things

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Speaker 4: about tough stuff but haven't ever done it themselves. He's

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Speaker 2: I've done a few tough things, fuckhead, I've done a few.

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Speaker 2: I've done a few, but yes, thank you, happy.

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Speaker 4: To be sorry. Former Marine Sergeant Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get that by accident, dick face. I had to

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Speaker 2: earn that one, so uh yes, happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: We got some fights by the way the fights will

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Speaker 2: Basically we'll just tag Belatore in because as soon as

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Speaker 2: those are always a bloodbath. So it's a little afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you ever drive by and reach your hand out

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, I mean maybe me and Josh Thompson.

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Speaker 4: the show Box season on October twenty first in Atlantic City.

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Speaker 4: Just something to put on your calendar.

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Speaker 2: Right there, Luke.

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Speaker 4: I'm not here necessarily to sell things for people, but

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Speaker 4: I know people are looking at this badass Factory Town

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Speaker 4: MMA T shirt that I'm wearing that kind of looks

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Speaker 2: Only if you were like some kind of janitor or

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Speaker 2: you know, picked on nerdy school teacher who got you know,

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Speaker 2: and what's it called. Some of my favorite some of.

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Speaker 4: My favorite action movies have started that way. I mean,

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Speaker 4: my two teenagers in my house. Luke Factory Tonemom is

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Speaker 4: Morningcombat Dot Store, including Luke's deadface and uh you know

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Speaker 4: the real talk like men do so bomber jackets.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that mister plow scenario. It's coming back in your marriage.

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Speaker 4: If you're so inclined to push MK over the top

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Andre the Giant all right, there you go. Look,

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Speaker 2: Possible, especially if he goes in there and looks good

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Speaker 4: Henderson snapped that three fight losing skate, which was a

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Speaker 2: I think that would be pretty special. I think that

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Speaker 2: better durability than the kinds of guys that Queley has

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Speaker 2: put away before. But I recognize it's close.

432
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, the odds not quite as close in this comin event,

433
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: although there is much reason to watch it. The combined

434
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 4: age is in fact ninety one, but Joel Romero will

435
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 4: be a minus seven hundred betting favorite according to Caesar,

436
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 4: against the plus five hundred forty six year old Melvin

437
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: manhoof Melvin has said, Luke, this will be it. We

438
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 4: have heard that from him before, but this is officially it.

439
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 4: He's gonna get the final close up here. He's always

440
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 4: going to bring in that one strike knockout ability. He's

441
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 4: always going to bring in the potential that he gets

442
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 4: got the same way. Let's ask it like this, we

443
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 4: expect Joa Romero, who's a little bit fresher, not too

444
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 4: far apart in age, by the way, to get the

445
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: w here. He looked fantastic in breaking Alex Poliesi's jaw

446
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: and getting his first bellotor win after that split decision

447
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 4: lost to Phil Davis. How do you think you all

448
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: will look though in terms of in his second or

449
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 4: what his third appearance here at light heavyweight after officially

450
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 4: making the move, in terms of is he gonna go

451
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 4: after a man hoof? Is he going to be that

452
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 4: that coiled cobro waiting for that one perfect counter strike.

453
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: See, I'm not so sure because you could look at

454
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: the Corey Anderson model where he was able to like

455
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Speaker 2: pressure Manhof backwards and take him down and beat him

456
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Speaker 2: up on the ground. Is that really Romero's style hasn't

457
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 2: been with Obviously, he's got amazing wrestling credentials, but he's

458
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: got freestyle wrestling, not folks style. It's a little bit different,

459
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: and he you know, and he doesn't seem to use

460
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Speaker 2: it in the way that you would imagine someone with

461
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: that kind of a wrestling background would. It's a threat.

462
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: His level changes seem to be, you know, ever present

463
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: and still quick, but those more often than not tend

464
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Speaker 2: to set up strikes afterwards. So I actually feel like

465
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Speaker 2: I would be very surprised if Romero loses. I would

466
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Speaker 2: not be surprised if it's a little bit close and

467
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: honestly a little bit boring at times, which I'm not

468
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 2: trying to warn the audience not to watch, That's not

469
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Speaker 2: my point, but rather like I feel like Romero is

470
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Speaker 2: going to be very it always has been, but especially

471
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Speaker 2: in this contest, very selective about when he presses the

472
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: gas versus the breaks. Now, he's always kind of been

473
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Speaker 2: that way, as I mentioned, but it would be particularly

474
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Speaker 2: acute here. The funny part is, I think if he

475
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Speaker 2: wanted to wrestle, especially a two h five, where he

476
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: should you know, not so drained, he should be able

477
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: to against a guy like Melvin, who you know, is

478
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: a well trained MMA fighter but is very old at

479
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: this point relatively speaking, and has never had great wrestling

480
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: takedown defense. Rameiro should be able to overcome that without

481
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: much issue, but he just doesn't seem to fight that way.

482
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna actually take some big bombs

483
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: eventually from Manhoff. The problem is that Manhuff's chin has

484
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: been degraded over time, which is just the inevitability of

485
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: fighting a style like that. Romero's, to me, has not.

486
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Speaker 2: I think that will be the difference.

487
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Speaker 4: I would like to seel sprinkle that in. You know,

488
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Speaker 4: we pondered that when he moved to Beltor and announced

489
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Speaker 4: the move up to two oh five, And you're right,

490
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Speaker 4: you know, going back to his biggest UFC title fights

491
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 4: there when he had that succession of them. He just

492
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 4: doesn't use us style. He really never has in MMA.

493
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 4: It's been more of his amateur Olympic style that he

494
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: broke out there. I don't know, Luke. Is it the

495
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Speaker 4: reason why we don't see fighters carry the wrestling late

496
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 4: into their career as aggressively because of how taxing it.

497
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Speaker 2: Is it can be? Yeah, yes, that's obviously a big

498
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: component of it. You need a lot of gas tank,

499
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: you need a lot of horsepower for that kind of

500
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: style to work. That's part of it. And I think,

501
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, these guys at plus forty in this case,

502
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: well plus forty kind of apportion their offense a little

503
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: bit more thoughtfully given the realities of where they're at

504
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: in their career. So that can be a part of it.

505
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: But I also think that Romero believes in his hands too, right.

506
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: I think he believes I can knock this guy out,

507
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: and by the way, he's probably right that he can.

508
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: Whether he will, we shall see. But I think that's

509
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: a big part of it as well. He just is

510
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: absolutely convinced that this is the way for him to win.

511
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: And by the way, I mean, obviously that's exactly how

512
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: a guy like Manhof thinks he can win as well.

513
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: So wrestling would only be largely a defensive component here.

514
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: I can't imagine to be anything else other than the

515
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: fake level low.

516
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Speaker 4: Romero's got great boxing, and let's not forget his brother

517
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: is former Cruiserweight world champion. Was it Yoann Pablo Hernandez

518
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: I believe is the correct name. But Luke, the problem

519
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: is that he's a little He's always I mean, even

520
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 4: this has been the problem in the Auto Sonia fight

521
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 4: or whatever. I mean, He's too selective. Maybe that's to

522
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: protect the gas tank because when he does strike it

523
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 4: is so high powered and explosive. But man, you'd love

524
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 4: to see him. If he's gonna commit solely to the boxing,

525
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: which is really what he's doing to really work a

526
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: job and have a higher output. This will be the

527
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 4: fight to do that, even with the danger of manhood countering.

528
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: But we'll see what happens. Anything can happen. I think

529
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: the worst case scenario would be here if they went

530
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: the distance like we're expecting. Ah, a beautiful disaster here

531
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: around one, so give it to us, right.

532
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way I said, I said it was boring,

533
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: but let's be clear, I'm sorry. I warned that it

534
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 2: could be depending on what Romero comes out. But if

535
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: Romero comes out the way he came out against Paulo Costa,

536
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: this is gonna be batshit. It won't last that long,

537
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: but it'll be absolutely insane. So this one will either

538
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: be completely insane or could be a little bit more

539
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: measured for the duration of the bout. But I just

540
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: it would be it would be weird for Romero to

541
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: lose about like this. And also, let me say, I

542
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: I know he's kind of indicated. It's almost certainly going

543
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: to be. I just want to say it one more time.

544
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: This should be the end of Melvin Manhof's combat sports career.

545
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: The guy has done a lot, He's got a lot

546
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: of fights in both kickboxing and MMA. He's had some

547
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: tremendous wins. He's had a lot of damage. It's time

548
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: to do something else.

549
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: All right, Luke. Finally on Romero. He's made the media rounds.

550
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: This week was on Aerial Show and all that was

551
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: asked about Autasnia and he ultimately said, go back to

552
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: my fight with him. Have you seen Adasnja look fun

553
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 4: or exciting or entertaining? Sense? Then? So, Luke, I look

554
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: back on that weird fight that I was cage side

555
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 4: for that I scored three rounds to two Toyo Romero

556
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: and a lot of people still laugh at me, but

557
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 4: come back in time. Get the jigawat sitting next to me.

558
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: It's a weird ass fight. I did see Romero land

559
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: that big headkicking around one that kind of you know,

560
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: put lowered the output of Adasania and made him tread carefully.

561
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: Do you put any credence in what you always Romero

562
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: is saying about your city kick boner friend here about

563
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 4: maybe he's the reason that at Asania has turned to

564
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: the more safe, practical side.

565
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a lot of people think a lot

566
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: of crazy things, including right probably me to an extent,

567
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: all of us. Really, I think that's a that's a

568
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: very silly thing to believe.

569
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: All right, we'll file it ahead of Italian leather man

570
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: bag as silly things.

571
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Didn't have to be Italian or leather. I just need

572
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: a man back from MBK.

573
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: Fole leather, Yeah, MK, pleather Luke. We mentioned the storylines

574
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: coming in about other fights to watch. I do want

575
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 4: to circle that Mad's Burnell Pedro Carvallio fight at featherweight.

576
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if you got a chance to see it,

577
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: but I did an Instagram takeover on the MK account

578
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: yesterday talk to MADD's Burnell at length, Luke. Hell of

579
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: a personality. It doesn't get the close up or shine

580
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: on a consistent basis in terms of the media, but

581
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: a fun little chat there. Here's a guy who's really

582
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: appreciates box trying to work a boxing style into his

583
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: MMA game. That's, you know, comparative to the Joe Fraser,

584
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: James Tony Philly Schell and the defensive movements. We know

585
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: he's coming off that tough loss in the Number one

586
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: Contender fight to Adam Bortz, but had an eight fight

587
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: win streak before that. Gave a lot of credit to

588
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: the move to extreme couture in recent years for really

589
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 4: allowing him to well round his game and come out there.

590
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 4: And considering Pedro Carvallo has lost three of four and

591
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 4: did get stopped by Patricio in their Grand Prix title bout,

592
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,239
Speaker 4: this does feel like an opportunity for Mads Brunell, as

593
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: we said on Wednesday, to if he can pull it

594
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 4: off to get a win and pretty much be right

595
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: there looking for another shot. Luke, I'm getting the feeling

596
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: out twenty eight that there's still a lot more for

597
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: him to give in this division. But he's got to

598
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: get by Pedro here. How does he do it? With

599
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: Brunella minus five hundred favorite Carviao plus three eighty.

600
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: He can actually box a little bit, which we've seen

601
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: now a numerous amount of times. You saw in the

602
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: Borich fight. Obviously he couldn't do it enough to win,

603
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: or at least not every round that he won a couple.

604
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: It was a very very difficult and close fight. But

605
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, the guy on the ground is a wizard

606
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: as well, and always has been. I really believe that,

607
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: you know, Carvaglio, if he has a way to win,

608
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: it would be if Burnell makes some kind of mistake

609
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: on the feet, which is certainly possible. But I believe

610
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: on the ground there is a massive difference in capability.

611
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: I would give the huge edge to Burnell there. So

612
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: Burnell has shown a little bit more of an affinity

613
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: and willingness and frankly eagerness. I would say to fight

614
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: on the feet more than he ever used to, understandably,

615
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: because he is good there. I want to point out

616
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying if it's on the feet, Burnell won't win.

617
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: He might keep it on the feet and knock him out.

618
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: He might be better on the feet than Carvolio, but

619
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: he is for sure better on the ground. And I

620
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: think he'll probably do a little bit of a mix.

621
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: But I wonder if he might really make that a

622
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: little bit more of a forward part of his game

623
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: that he did against Boris. Now Boris kind of shut

624
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: a lot of that down too, But I tend to

625
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: think that there's going to be a little bit more

626
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: of ground play in this one, and that will ultimately

627
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: spell the demise of Carvaglio.

628
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: And finally, Luke, we don't talk about Leo McCourt a lot,

629
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 4: but the Women's Featherway will be back in her home

630
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: of Ireland, coming off her first bellator defeat to Sad

631
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 4: Kavanaugh but taking on a rising Diana Silva. This is

632
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: not a deep division, Luke. It's kind of like, you know,

633
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: Chris Cyborg, Garlene Blanco and everybody else, right, how about

634
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: Liam McCourt making some noise here? Maybe potentially all right,

635
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're moved by this? Are you

636
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: all right? There we go, there's the picture. Thank you, Geff.

637
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Okay, don't don't forget Brett Johns on this card. That's important.

638
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: And then there's the battle of the Carls Karl al

639
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Brexen versus Carl Moore. Carl Albrexen's kind of a guy

640
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: who's been around for a while, has had a different

641
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: run in Belatore and then was out and then now

642
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: he's back again, fought and rising as well, has a

643
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: win over Vedeem Nemkov to be clear, all the way

644
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: back in twenty sixteen, So another guy to kind of

645
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: keep your eye on.

646
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: He also beat Victor Nemkov in twenty twenty one and

647
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: is riding a four fight wind Street Carl Albrexton. So

648
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: watch that, Luke. Our second top of the week takes

649
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: us to Anderson Silva of all people who of course.

650
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 4: October twenty ninth in Phoenix Showtime pay per view at

651
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: forty seven, well Bock Jake Paul, But he was on

652
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: the MMA R with Ariel Hawani and the topic turned

653
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 4: to Dana White, the UFC business practices, and really a

654
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: summation of the deeper beef that Anderson seems to hold. Luke,

655
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: we interviewed him on the set of the press conference

656
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: in La What a week and a half ago and

657
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: how would you describe when asked about UFC and Dana.

658
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: It seems like Anderson gives like a polite response, but

659
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: you can do you feel tension behind there?

660
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's tension for sure. I mean the way he

661
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: explained it, I think you have the quote he sort

662
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: of explains it as well. No, it's you know, it's

663
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: a small thing. It's an important thing, but it's a

664
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: small thing. But I don't know, like, don't you get

665
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: the sense that there's I won't say he's seething with resentment.

666
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: That's not quite right, but he definitely feels it almost

667
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: it all. I can't speak for him, but it feels

668
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: like he has more anger than he does yes, happiness

669
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: towards Dana. It's him to talk about Dana without saying

670
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: something in the order of like, well but this, you know.

671
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: By the way, did you love? I loved when he

672
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: misappropriated the pronouns in English when he was talking to us,

673
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: and he's like Jake and your brother, and he kept

674
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: saying to us your brother talking about Logan, but he

675
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: just it was so cute, Luke, it was cute.

676
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: Understand, what was he supposed to say?

677
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: He kept saying Jay. He wanted to say Jake and Logan,

678
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: like Jake and his brother, but instead he kept saying

679
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: he would look at you and go, Jake and your brother, you.

680
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: Know, and I like so he instead of saying his brother.

681
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like Luke's brother. You don't give a damn

682
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: about us, you know, let's be fair, all right, Well,

683
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: here's the quote to Ariel Hair, Luke, he's probably a

684
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: nice guy.

685
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: Though your brother probably he's a nice guy.

686
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's decent quote. In this case, I don't think

687
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: UFC is wrong or Dana is wrong. Dana tried to

688
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: do your job, and the UFC gives you a job.

689
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: The problem is the fighters when they go inside and

690
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: sign the contract. You already signed the contract. You don't

691
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: have a chance to change except when the contract is done.

692
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: My personal opinion, of course, the UFC can pay the

693
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 4: fighters better, especially a couple of fighters, something very very

694
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: incredible inside UFC and make the UFC name strong and powerful,

695
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: make more respect for the brand. But everything is about

696
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: talk to your manager. Have a good thing behind you

697
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: to protect you, so you don't sign something you don't like.

698
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: In the future, a lot of very talented fighters sign

699
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: something very crazy because the manager doesn't take care of

700
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: the fighters. It's only about numbers and money, and that's

701
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: the problem. Luke I got more of his quotes on Dana,

702
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: but I wanted to halt there because he brings up

703
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: the manager. Do you think this is a bigger issue

704
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: then we necessarily talk about and maybe then the overall

705
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: narrative is in the fighter pay battle. We always look

706
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: at it as the evil Empire. Darth Vader, Dana Hunter, Campbell,

707
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: and you know, keeping away because of the draconian contracts

708
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: and the control they have. But Anderson's basically saying, look

709
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: like it's also up to the managers, and Looke, do

710
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: we hear from time to time that certain managers get

711
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: accused of getting too close to UFC brass and ultimately

712
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: end up serving the promotion more than the fighters. Find

713
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: that to be an accurate narrative, And do you believe

714
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: Anderson's leaning in that direction.

715
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: I definitely have found that, in my judgment, the most

716
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: reliable and successful managers are not the ones with a

717
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: ton of clients with the UFC. That's where the problem

718
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: seems to happen as far as I can tell now,

719
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: not in every case and not necessarily in every similar

720
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: kind of way. But you'll see some of the bigger

721
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: fighters have managers that maybe have like a few people.

722
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: These are the ones that don't seem to be nearly

723
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: as beholden to the realities of being a manager in

724
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: the space, which is, if you got a lot of

725
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: clients and none of them are necessarily a list, or

726
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: you only have a couple of them are a list,

727
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: but you got a lot that are BC and D,

728
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: you end up having the situation where they have to

729
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: maintain a positive relationship with UFC. What ik they feel

730
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: like they do in order for this dynamic to be

731
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: beneficial for them, Like they have to kind of do

732
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: the UFC a solid in order for those rewards to

733
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: be returned eventually. I'm sure that's an oversimplification in a

734
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: few ways, but that seems to be something of the challenge.

735
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: And like, you know, you can listen to the work

736
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: of John Nash where he's like, you can look at

737
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: the pay numbers and it just doesn't appear to be

738
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: all that clear that the managers make any significant contribution

739
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: to a rise in pay. It seems to happen formulaically,

740
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: and so a lot of times the managers go back

741
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: to their fires and like, you know, look at this raise,

742
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: I got you, but that was a raise that was

743
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: going to happen anyway. And yeah, I definitely do think

744
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: that there are managers who are in bed with UFC,

745
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't think they're trying to screw

746
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: their clients exactly, but they probably feel like what is

747
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: most important is that I maintain this relationship with this

748
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: behemoth in the industry and then try to get my

749
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: clients to work inside of that space versus going white

750
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: knuckle with them. But the reality is, if you change

751
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: the industry by virtue of having the ALI act or

752
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 2: a union, a huge portion of this would be would

753
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: be not fixed, but alleviated, let's say overnight.

754
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: It's interesting, it's interesting to bike because we used to

755
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: debate the opposite of that when we look at remember

756
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: Nick con who's of course running WW now, but he

757
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: was such a super agent with CIA that you know,

758
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: they used to make jokes that he is essentially running

759
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: in ESPN from the inside out and able to leverage

760
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: for some of his smaller clients big opportunities by you know,

761
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 4: by using the leverage that his bigger clients have already

762
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: had with the company. It almost seems the opposite here,

763
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: where maybe some of these supermanagers are allowed to keep

764
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: themselves afloat by keeping UFC happy. And to Anderson's point,

765
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: is that doing enough individually. Anderson went out to say

766
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: other quotes where he said the fighters shouldn't have to

767
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: worry about this. You should have a manager who completely

768
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: has your back and handles this for you. Is that

769
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: always the case? I think it's worth further investigation. But

770
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: here's the other specific bombshell quote if you will, that

771
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: Anderson gave about his specific problem with Dana White quote.

772
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 4: My problem with Dana is when he talks about fights,

773
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 4: because Dana has never fought MMA in his life. That's

774
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: my problem. When he talks about you can't do that,

775
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: don't do that. You didn't fight correctly. No, no, no,

776
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: that's my only problem with Dana. I think Dana's a

777
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: good person. Everybody talks about Dana saying he's not good

778
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, but he's a good person and he's

779
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: a good businessman. UFC doesn't get to this point now

780
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: as a big, big company in the world. If the

781
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: people think I did something, I'm sorry, fighters I did

782
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: something incorrect. No, the company grew up because of hustlers

783
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: doing something. And that's the game. You're inside or you're not.

784
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: You can sign or you cannot sign. You can go anywhere.

785
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: But when you sign, you make a deal with my company,

786
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: you can't say nothing because why did you sign. You

787
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: signed the contract. You have a contract. Oh no, let

788
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: me out of the contract. You signed the contract. Okay,

789
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm babbling here and Anderson's speak. But the crux of this,

790
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: Luke is he's basically saying, once they've got you, they've

791
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: got you, and there's not much you can do. But

792
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: he's getting pretty sick of Dana talking shit about fighters

793
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: when he thinks Dana hasn't proven himself in the cage.

794
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: I don't think Anderson's watched the training footage of Dana

795
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: for that aborted boxing match with Tito or Teez, Luke,

796
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: where Dana said he willingly took out potential CTE to

797
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: try to win that grudge match that never happened. Is

798
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: there a point though, to what Andy's saying about, Hey, bro,

799
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: stop talking shit if you ain't done it. That's what

800
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: people say to me, Luke, They say.

801
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not not not Really. What I would say is

802
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: that if you're going to speak about fights, you have

803
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: a responsibility to you know, to have as informed a

804
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: judgment as you can, which, of course, you know, every

805
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: all of us will be fallible, and we'll all say

806
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: crazy things and make mistakes and whatnot. But fighters are

807
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: not entitled to the comfort of the only analysis coming

808
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: from their peers. Nobody is not fighters not I mean,

809
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: I'm not entitled to that, neither of you. No one

810
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: is they they want to insulate themselves from criticism because

811
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: they are inherently extremely sensitive, which I understand is a

812
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: occupational necessity or certainly a reality in many ways. I

813
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: accept that. I understand that. I do think if you're

814
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: going to have a role like you or like me,

815
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: some deference has to be paid to that A little bit,

816
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: for sure, you got to you gotta work with that.

817
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: But they're not entitled to the kind of criticism or

818
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: evaluation that they find acceptable. That's outrageous to me. And

819
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: of all the things you could say about Dana White,

820
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: that is about the least credible thing I could ever

821
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: care about.

822
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: Well. Anderston went on to essentially say what we would

823
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 4: assume he would say that, like when you sign the contract,

824
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: you have no freedom to do what you want. But

825
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: now he's not a UFC fighter. He has the freedom.

826
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 4: He can box Jake and he can do other things.

827
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: Trying to wonder what Anderson is looking for, I mean,

828
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: we just read a whole bunch of quotes. What's the

829
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: crux you think at the end of the day of

830
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: his issue that he wasn't given like Muhammad Ali exit

831
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: treatment that you, sir, are truly one of the pillars

832
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: of the UFC success today, and you could argue that's

833
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 4: one hundred. I mean, he's in the go conversation, he's

834
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 4: been one of the most mussy fighters in the totality

835
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: of his reign. What is he actually looking for that

836
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 4: he didn't get on the way out?

837
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: You think, Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's any one thing.

838
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he kind of makes it sound that way

839
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I don't buy that. I'm with you.

840
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: I think it's a of things. I just feel like, yeah,

841
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: the UFC got the exit wrong. And I'm not saying intentionally,

842
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they tried to screw him or something

843
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: like that, but they could have done a better job.

844
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: And I think they probably feel that way in hindsight anyway.

845
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: But the piece to me, it just seems like is

846
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: I just feel like these guys and it goes back

847
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: to the criticism thing, like you're not entitled to comforting

848
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: analysis and you're not entitled to the only analysis that

849
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: is that your peers can give you, Like this is

850
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: this is absurd, But I do feel like, what is

851
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: the like, what's the common denominator here? The common denominator

852
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: feels as like, I think he feels like he wasn't

853
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: just taken care of right. Maybe the pay was good,

854
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't could have been a little bit more.

855
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: Maybe the exit was not as good as it could

856
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: have been. Maybe some of the things Dana said were

857
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: not as nice as they could have been. And all

858
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: these little things add up into this general sense that

859
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: he wasn't as not protected per se, but he wasn't

860
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: as there was a there wasn't fine enough of a

861
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: touch on the way things were handled with him in

862
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: a series of either incidents or sort of moments, or

863
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. In this situation, it just

864
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: feels like there could have been a few more te's crossed,

865
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: a few more eyes dotted, a little bit more empathy

866
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: or sympathy handed out in a couple of ways along

867
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: and those pieces were missed, and they seem to have

868
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: really stuck out in the mind of Anderson. For good

869
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: or for bad. You can make the judgment call who's

870
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: to sa ABC. I don't know how you feel about it.

871
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: Does that sound like a plausible theory to you?

872
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, look in Dana's favor, don't forget Anderson

873
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: got popped for drugs and you know, he had big

874
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 4: injuries during that long losing streak, and when you lose

875
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: that many in succession, it's hard to have job security,

876
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 4: even though a lot of those losses are weird circumstances

877
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: or hey, Anderson looked very good, could have got the

878
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: win against Bisbee. You get my point. But as we

879
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: always talked about, you know, they were feeding him to

880
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: cannoneeron Bronson and fights that didn't make a lot of sense.

881
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: I wonder if Anderson feels he should have been given

882
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: still high, multimillion dollar purses just to appear in his

883
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: forties and you know, fun fight GSP, fun fights against

884
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: other legends that would have allowed him, Like I wonder

885
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: if he still looks at himself, Luke realizes at forty

886
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: seven that he's still got a decent amount left that

887
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: most forty seven year olds shouldn't, and wonders if he

888
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: should be still in a main or co main events situation,

889
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: given legendary respect. That's what I wonder if the crux

890
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: of it is but whatever, at the end of the day,

891
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: the final piece on Anderson is this, Luke. You know,

892
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: I've made a bunch of mythical matchup ideas on this

893
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: show that have you know, tasted to you either like

894
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: a really gross gas station hot dog or maybe a

895
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: pig with a little bit of lipstick on those lips.

896
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: How about this from Ariel Helwani yesterday on Twitter? Scott

897
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: Koker just told us that he called Anderson Silva's rep

898
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: a couple months ago and he offered a fight against

899
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: Fador emilian Anko. No real talk then, But now that

900
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: Silva said he wants one more MMA fight in Japan,

901
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: Scott is going to reach back out. Luke. Somebody on

902
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: this show said that's the ultimate old guy fight, that

903
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 4: old uncle Scott should be chasing from day one. This

904
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: has me fired up in the loins, Luke. You probably

905
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 4: not well.

906
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: You don't have many w's, but when you get one,

907
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: you don't let the world forget about it, do you? Yo?

908
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: Jake Paul's girlfriend follows me on Twitter. Everybody now down?

909
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: I mean she does, you know, check check the receipts.

910
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: I hope she still that. She certainly does good for you. Yep.

911
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: You know what, At this point, I don't hate it

912
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: so much. Of all the fights you could possibly do,

913
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: or make, or directions you could go at this stage.

914
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Remember they tried to force the old Junior Do Santos

915
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: thing the Eagle FC and that just kind of blew up. Uh. Yeah,

916
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: I suppose that that is on the table, and I

917
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: suppose that with okay, with all the standard you know,

918
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: disclaimers that one could put in there, just I mean,

919
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna read them off, just put them

920
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: on there. Given those disclaimers and everything else, I don't

921
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: hate it. I don't hate it all.

922
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: That would be an ultimate Bousheeto fight with like two

923
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 4: of the purest og legends in terms of what's right

924
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: about the sport. It would be such an interesting different

925
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 4: weight division matchup, similar to Dan Hendo versus Fador and

926
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: Strike Force a whole hell of a long time ago.

927
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: I can't believe we're still here talking about fat Or

928
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: by the way, a decade later, but we are. And yeah,

929
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm here for that. So please Scott Koker do that.

930
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: If it's in Japan, send me all right, I'll call,

931
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: I'll call the fights, all right, I'll send next to

932
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 4: Big John.

933
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: Please.

934
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: I want to see this shit, Luke. Topic number three

935
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: is sure to make people grown, but it look it

936
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: happened in the media this week, Floyd Mayweather's going to

937
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: be back in a boxing exhibition that we'll mention in

938
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: a little bit. But part of the build up media

939
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: wise was Floyd telling anyone who will listen that talks

940
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: are ongoing about a twenty twenty three boxing rematch with

941
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor now right away. Get a knee jerk grown

942
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: from most people knowing Connor's current UFC contract situation and

943
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: the fact that Dana White would have to be involved

944
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: in this to make it work. Dana's shot on the

945
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: idea left and right. Floyd told the media that the

946
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 4: only hiccup is that he wants an exhibition, Connor wants

947
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: an actual fight. Well, Connor doesn't seem to want either,

948
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 4: because he posted on ig the hashtag not interested with

949
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: a picture of the two of them, and then he

950
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: put out a tweet that's now been deleted that was

951
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: a reply to Floyd saying.

952
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: Bro he deletes more tweets John Jones or Connor McGregor.

953
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't know, yeah, wow. So Floyd tweeted out

954
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: that he's expected to make fifteen to twenty million on Saturday,

955
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: Connor said quote. He also said he made one hundred

956
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: million to spar the logan guy, yet never made the

957
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: Forbes List top one hundred. He hasn't cleared twenty million

958
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: in one full year since twenty seventeen when we fought

959
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: the last time. Otherwise he'd have been on that list.

960
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: He hasn't made the list since twenty seventeen. So in

961
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: other words, he's full of shit. End quote. Look, I

962
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: know you don't care about this, Luke, but he's kind

963
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 4: of right.

964
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: He I mean, he might be right. But here's the

965
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: point about this fight. Like the first time, they thought

966
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: it was unfathomable that two guys could meet in this

967
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: way from different sports inside of one of the other guys' sport.

968
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: What would it you know? And obviously, if your combat

969
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: sports literate, you had a basic idea of what would happen,

970
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: Like there'd be no way Floyd would really lose. But

971
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: you know, you were wanting to see the weirdness. You

972
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: wanted to see the unusualness. And for the casual fans, like,

973
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: what would it look like? What would it be? How's

974
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: it going to go? It's crazy? Can Connor pull up

975
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: the upset? Now? Everyone kind of knows Connor stock has declined.

976
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: Floyd is you know, not nearly the boxing. I mean,

977
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: he's obviously still very involved in boxing, but you know,

978
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: he's fighting Logan Paul and Donks in Japan, like he's

979
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: just doing the old man bit. At this point, he's

980
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: not nearly as relevant as a figure as a prize

981
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: fighter as he was certainly during that time, right the Floyd, Right,

982
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: the Messi Ronaldo era of soccer is basically over, the Floyd.

983
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: Manny's era of boxing is over as well, although Manny's

984
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: taken a exhibition fight coming up too. But so, like,

985
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: what would be the value in seeing it a second time?

986
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: The first one wasn't bad, but the whole thing was

987
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: this notion of suspense and unpredictability and what would it be. Well,

988
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: you got to see what it was. He got marched

989
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: down and beaten up, like you know, like, what are

990
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: you going to sell him on the second time around?

991
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: I just don't even understand what the appeal would be.

992
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: And which isn't to say it wouldn't make money or whatever,

993
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: but it just seems bizarre to me a little bit.

994
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like Floyd might realize within himself that

995
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: that's the last giant money fight he can make. It

996
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: would have to be, you know, as close to a

997
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: real fight as possible, meaning he's not going to be

998
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: sparring a younger kickbox or three divisions lower. I mean,

999
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: it's a connor who can still throw his hands. Although

1000
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: to your point, the brand is damaged and you know

1001
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: he needs to win badly in the UFC to revive that.

1002
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: But I wonder if Floyd at forty five is saying himself,

1003
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 4: if I've got to fight one more time, a real fight,

1004
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: and that Logan fight was weird and in Floyd, I

1005
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: think didn't expect to have to navigate it the way

1006
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 4: he did. I wonder if Floyd thinks this is it.

1007
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: But even that could be a trap fight for him, Luke,

1008
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: because of his age. You never know, okay, But to

1009
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: your point, it's hard to get amped up for it

1010
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: unless one or both of them is sort of riding

1011
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: a certain level of momentum, or you hate Floyd so

1012
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: much that you're like, now we'll finally see him lose

1013
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: in a real like it's enough enough of that, BS.

1014
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: Speaking of BS Luke, Topic four is our Boxing Weekend

1015
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: preview Floyd's Back Saturday on pay per view Integrated Sports

1016
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: Independent pay per View from Saitama, Japan. Your main event,

1017
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: Floyd Mayweather versus Makuru Asakura, a three round junior middleway exhibition.

1018
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: If those are the last words I say about this match, Luke,

1019
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: that's fine. Do you have any words to add? Do

1020
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 4: you care? You're vaping? So you apparently you.

1021
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: Just you saw my level of care. I do care

1022
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: about the shaquer Stevenson and Conseil sal I don't care

1023
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: so much about Joyce Parker, Amanda Serrano Sho.

1024
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: Okay, well I didn't ask you about them, Luke, I

1025
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: didn't ask you about it.

1026
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm just going over the slate. I'm just going over this.

1027
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: Okay, we're not there yet. I don't get what you're

1028
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: doing right now, just trying to throw shade at my sport. Well,

1029
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: because TRIPLEG didn't entertain us. Fuck him?

1030
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: All right? Hey, I like boxing, just fine. It's a

1031
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: great sport. I'm not like one of the haters on

1032
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: our audiences. I like boxing, but this weekend, you know

1033
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: it's not it's not a showcase of its best. Let's

1034
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: put it that way. All right.

1035
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: Well, Floyd's gonna box whether we like it or not.

1036
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: I don't know enough about the other guy Luke. It

1037
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: seems like he's much smaller in wait. But let's not

1038
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: forget that. Remember that last exhibition he did, the guy

1039
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: took a really seriously, what was that guy's name, Tension Nasakawa.

1040
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh, Tension Nascala. Yeah, who's a good fighter.

1041
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was crying afterwards. He was like going for it.

1042
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: Floyd tied to help.

1043
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: Floyd did something I didn't think he was gonna do,

1044
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: which was, you know, I thought Floyd was just going

1045
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 2: to go in there and a horse around with him,

1046
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: and Floyd just fucking took it to him. So yeah,

1047
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose that's possible, but like, what kind

1048
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: of state is Floyd? And like Floyd's not out of

1049
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: shape or whatever, but he's not Like I don't know, man,

1050
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 2: The whole thing is, I don't like, you know, I

1051
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: don't know if you put on the rundown or not.

1052
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: I wasn't on there yesterday, but like trailer saying, oh,

1053
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna come back and they're gonna have Roberto Duran

1054
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: on the cart. Yo. I saw Roberto Duran a few

1055
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: years ago in Panama. My man wasn't exactly in fight shape.

1056
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: Let's be quite honest about that.

1057
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 4: I mean what he's like in his sixties or seventies.

1058
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: I think they're probably thinking about him in like a

1059
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, exhibition where he comes out and riles up

1060
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 4: the fans. But Luke Dead, Jose Luis Castile on there,

1061
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: who shouldn't be anywhere near a damn ring at this point,

1062
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: and the you know, the sons of Tommy nobody care

1063
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: trailer goal, why please thank you Luke? Interesting boxing fight

1064
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: tonight on ESPN that got more interesting by Shaker Stevenson,

1065
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: one of my ten for top ten pound for palm

1066
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: fighters in the game, and really the guy who I

1067
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 4: believe has next in this entire sport. He's still gonna

1068
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 4: face ropes and yes that's how they say it, can

1069
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: say syl from Brazil, a three time Olympian, a twenty

1070
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 4: sixteen gold medalist, but only Conseysao can win the WBC

1071
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: and WBO junior lightweight titles. Shaquer Stevenson missedweight by a

1072
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: pound and a half, more or less, did not attempt

1073
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 4: to pull the boxers down or try to make it

1074
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 4: after the break. In fact, his quote over Twitter was

1075
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: I gave it my all. I've been professional my whole

1076
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: career and made weight but my body just can't make

1077
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 4: one thirty anymore. My health has to come first. I'm

1078
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: moving up to one thirty five in my next fight.

1079
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 4: End quote. Luke Stevenson was already, according to reports, gonna

1080
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: move up to one thirty five. But even with how

1081
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: bad this looks, although let's try to frame it, he's

1082
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 4: what twenty four years old. I mean, when boxers are young,

1083
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: sometimes your body forces you out of the weight class.

1084
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: It happens. All these young guys around lightweight are gonna

1085
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: end up being walterweights in their prime. That's just what's

1086
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: gonna happen. This is still an interesting fight, can say

1087
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: Soyle fought Oscar Valdez, who Shaquerse Stevenson unified titles against,

1088
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 4: and you could argue in that fight Luke really gave

1089
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: a great showing of himself and his only pro loss.

1090
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: I am still interested in see because I know how

1091
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: great Shakur is and because I want to see him

1092
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: tomorrow against the top lightweights, whether that's Haindy Lomachenko. You

1093
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: can can keep going on and on, Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia,

1094
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: whoever does the missing of weight in your eyes, stain

1095
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: Shakur at all or stain the potential entertainment value in

1096
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: tonight's foot.

1097
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: That it's a good question. I do think it's a little

1098
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: bit of a bad look. Now listen, if you've not

1099
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: seen Shaker Stevenson, let me tell you what is my

1100
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: best read on him. My best read is that he

1101
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: is an extraordinary talent. I mean an extraordinary talent. He

1102
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: has just lightning precision. His distance management is unbelievable, his accuracy.

1103
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 2: Let's be very clear about this. He is a much

1104
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: better boxer than conse Sou, much better boxer. He's much

1105
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: better boxer than anyone else at Won thirty as far

1106
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: as I can tell. But dude, to just fucking punt

1107
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: your titles on the scale. That's low budget shit. That's like,

1108
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: that's not a great look to begin with. And just

1109
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: like the nonchalance about it they had to say, oh

1110
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: I tried. Listen, I'm not saying he should have tried

1111
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: harder only to drain himself to give Conseise Sau a chance.

1112
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: But I just don't buy that, Like that was every

1113
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: effort I could have made to make the way. I

1114
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: just don't believe that. I don't believe that. To me,

1115
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 2: it's like I'm not gonna. I don't think he's gonna

1116
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: lose this beout, but I don't think the bolt's gonna

1117
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: necessarily be all that entertaining. There's nothing Consei Sau does

1118
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: supremely well. There's a lot that Stevenson does supremely well.

1119
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: But as we all know, the knock on Stevenson as

1120
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't have big power, so I expect him to

1121
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: like just kind of dummy Conseil sal for basically twelve

1122
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: rounds and then to just you know, kind of punt

1123
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 2: your titles like that on the scales. Dude, A champion

1124
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: should never ever lose his in this case two belts,

1125
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: should never lose his belt or belts on the scales

1126
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: in this kind of a way. Even if you are

1127
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad I will say this. I'm glad he's making

1128
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: the recogn that this is no longer an appropriate weight

1129
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: class for him and he wants to go to one

1130
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: thirty five. These things should still be done in a

1131
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: professional way. Like what is the excuse for unprofessed not

1132
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: making weight? Is unprofessional? Period, It's not It's not professional.

1133
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: So to to not make weight and to just be

1134
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: like fuck it, you can have my titles, it is

1135
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: what it is. Ah, I don't get it. I don't

1136
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: get a great vibe if the if the youth are watching,

1137
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: I don't get good vibes from that kind of a thing.

1138
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: No, it's not a great look, but it does happen

1139
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: when fighters are young. I get your point, though I

1140
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily love the body language, the reaction. I didn't

1141
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: love that the announcer didn't even like tell the crowd

1142
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: he missed a weight. They sort of whole hummed it

1143
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: and then still had them face off, and it kind

1144
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: of spoiled the excitement I did have for this fight

1145
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: because look and say so sneaky good haws, that amateur background,

1146
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 4: tough as nails. I think the only problem with him

1147
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: is not active enough in the rings and tends to

1148
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: look at his shots too often and admire them. But

1149
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: Stevenson gotten his face in the in the in the

1150
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 4: post press conference face off. It's like I want to

1151
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 4: fuck you up. He said it to him over and

1152
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: over again. Now he's got a little bit of some

1153
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 4: of that villain heat on that he's going to have

1154
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: to turn back. I mean he was going anyway. I've

1155
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: got a lot of people in my DMS MK superfan

1156
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: Jeff Call wants to tear this guy down and say

1157
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: he didn't even try. Look at his body fat percentage,

1158
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: he didn't even try to make weight. That may have

1159
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 4: been the case at the end of the day, Luke,

1160
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 4: but he is going to have to forfeit part of

1161
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 4: his salary, still going to get the opportunity for tonight,

1162
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 4: and I think it's nine pm Eastern is that main

1163
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 4: card start? But look the maybe I'm maybe I'm covering

1164
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: up in a way any potential disappointment because I want

1165
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 4: to see this guy now at lightweight and he's going

1166
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: to move there anyway, So dude, I want to find

1167
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: out how great he can be, Luke, because this is

1168
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: a special one. This is why I talked to Devin

1169
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 4: Haney yesterday. He's got that rematch with the Cambosis coming

1170
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: up next month, and you know, he was like, look,

1171
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 4: she Curre's one of the best talents in this entire sport.

1172
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: If he's coming up to the lightweight next, let you know,

1173
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: come on, let's go. Although HAINI would prefer Lomachenko next.

1174
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 4: I mean the idea that Shaker can now take that

1175
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: take on this level of challenge at one thirty five.

1176
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 4: Dude is my super Bowl brother.

1177
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I listen, there's no I'll you can say that

1178
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: he was on per Professional yesterday and he was. And

1179
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: by the way, Keith iidach, I think is he a

1180
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: boxing scene?

1181
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1182
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a Keith Idik of Boxing scene was writing that,

1183
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: like you know, usually after someone misses Wade, there's like

1184
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: a there's like a relatively quick negotiation in the back

1185
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: about finding and how much other person will allow to,

1186
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, take the fight based on like you do

1187
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: you have to cut a couple more pounds or not,

1188
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: and how much money to give. And this went on

1189
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: for hours after the fight, which is unusual. Contisyle wanting

1190
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: some more money. I think he got some, so good

1191
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: for him. He deserved it. But like listen, he is

1192
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: shaquer Stevenson is one of boxing's pre eminent talents. To

1193
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: just make no mistake about it. But it's unprofessional, low

1194
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: rent shit to just punt your titles on the scales

1195
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: like that. If you want to move up to another

1196
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: weight class, I applaud him. I recognize that it's important

1197
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 2: do it. You got to do it the right way. Man.

1198
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: This is this was not this was not awesome.

1199
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 4: From him, and we got to have same energy if

1200
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: we if we came after tremaiav for for his own I.

1201
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: Have missed by a fucking million miles. Yes, a little bit,

1202
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: but still.

1203
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Tremai I could have talked to people earlier

1204
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: in the week. He said it might not make it

1205
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 4: this week, but we'll see. Take notice of that Colemine event.

1206
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: Keyshawan Davis seven and oh us Olympian is another guy

1207
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: that a lot of people are talking about that could

1208
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: be one of those next big things. He's facing an

1209
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 4: eight round light weight bout against Omar Tienda. Not a

1210
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 4: household name, but a guy's got experience in a tough out.

1211
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 4: Be on the lookout for Keyshawn Davis on his Rise

1212
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 4: Luke Saturday on ESPN Plus from Manchester, England. So I

1213
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: know you're not hype for this, but a lot of

1214
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: our mk UK fans are. It's a big deal out there.

1215
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 4: When Joe Joyce, the Juggernaut, the unbeating heavyweight who stopped

1216
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 4: Daniel Dubois and their big Crossroad showdown, He's gonna face

1217
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: former world champion Joseph Parker. Now the secondary trinket of

1218
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: the WBO Interim heavyweight title is at stake. But really,

1219
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 4: what that means here is the winner is gonna be

1220
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: in the conversation for a title shot, even with the

1221
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: log jam atop of the division with Usik and Fury

1222
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: right now, Luke, Joseph Parker is much more talented and

1223
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: skilled than Joe Joyce. But Joyce can bang. He's slow

1224
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 4: and plotting, he's aggressives, he's sturdy. You don't seem to

1225
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: care here at all, Luke. I've been following the build up.

1226
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: They've been talking that Jay against one another. I've never

1227
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 4: been a big believer in Joe Joyce's upper bound limits.

1228
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 4: As we say, he's also you know, in his mid

1229
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 4: to late thirties at this point. But this is put

1230
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: up or shut up. This is his moment to find

1231
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: out if he's got the goods. I almost want to

1232
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: flip it back and say how much you think Joseph

1233
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: Parker has left? Like he hasn't done anything massive since

1234
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 4: surrend surrendering his titles to Anthony Joshua in their unification.

1235
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: But he's also you know, lingered and won some fights together.

1236
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: Is really you don't believe in either guy? Is that

1237
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: your lack of interest in this point.

1238
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: I think that there might be a So what do

1239
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: you want to say here? I think I think Parker

1240
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: could make Joyce work. I do think that's possible. I

1241
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: think you could actually get a decent fight out of this,

1242
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: if that's what you're talking about. But like, dude, the

1243
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: gap between guys like this and then the top of

1244
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: the division is fucking massive massive, And so it's not

1245
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: that I don't think that there's any value to the

1246
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: fight on its own terms, especially if you're a UK fan,

1247
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: because this seems to be like a little bit more

1248
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: obvious obviously, it's a lot more of a UK special

1249
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: in that way, you know. So that's fine. Like, I'm

1250
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: not here, I'm not here to talk anybody out of it.

1251
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: But do these let me ask you, genuinely, do these

1252
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: guys excite you? Like shir Ker Stevenson is not a

1253
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: huge power puncher, for example, but his the sharpness of

1254
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: the detail in what he can do is out of

1255
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 2: this world. I mean, it's really next level. These dudes

1256
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: are not that. They're not I mean, they're not that

1257
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: at all.

1258
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: Joyce's thirty seven, Luke, he is fourteen and oh with

1259
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 4: thirteen knockouts. I'll give him respect for stopping Carlos tackle.

1260
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 4: Maybe Brian Jennings. Yes, he won the aforementioned Dubois fight,

1261
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: but Parker to me at thirty and two, the record

1262
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: is on another level. He's still only thirty from New Zealand.

1263
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: Don't forget Luke. When he was champion, he had a

1264
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: Burger King sponsorship in New Zealand. The ring had a

1265
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 4: massive Burger King logo that's so cheesy awesome that I

1266
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: can't not get behind it. He's won tough fights against

1267
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 4: Derek Tusa twice and put together a couple wins despite

1268
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: getting sent to hell by Dillian White. Do I think

1269
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 4: either guy is a threat to win back a title,

1270
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: Not against the guys we have at the top of

1271
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: the moment. No, but I'm gonna be taking notice of

1272
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: this fight. I'll tell you what happens on it. Luke Comane.

1273
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: Even Amanda Serrano, who did not get the Jake Paul

1274
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: opportunity on the Rockman undercard, will be defending her trio

1275
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: of featherweight titles against Sarah mafud Or. Is this a unification?

1276
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. She brings two world titles, Sarah brings one.

1277
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 4: Three of the four belts at featherweight on the line

1278
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: when Serrano gets back in their first fight, I believe

1279
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 4: since losing that all time thriller there. To Katie Taylor

1280
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 4: is this are we built toward a rematch there for

1281
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: next year?

1282
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: Luke? Is that your thoughts? I mean, Sarah, my food

1283
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: is according to our friends at Caesar's a plus one

1284
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: thousand underdog Amna Serrano minus twenty one hundred. This is

1285
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: some stay busy shit. Yeah. I know it's technically on

1286
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: paper more than that, but in terms of what it

1287
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: actually means for Amanda Serrano, it's more or less that.

1288
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: So yes, like dude, there's listen, man, there's no way

1289
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: they don't do a rematch with Katie Taylor and a

1290
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: Mana Serana. Now when they do it, and where they

1291
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: do it, and at what weight they do it, all

1292
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: of that remains to be seen fair enough, And I

1293
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: know Katy Taylor had to fight announced. I think you

1294
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: indicated that there's a big announcement this week for her

1295
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: next return to the ring. But this is not This

1296
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: is just you know, hey, let's stay busy and make

1297
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: some bread and get some more experience. And that's it.

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: Katie Taylor is going to be fighting this fall against

1299
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: the opponent that I believe that Serrano was supposed to

1300
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: fight on the Rockman undercard. But if we can build

1301
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 4: to that to next year. Look, the first one exceeded

1302
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: expectations and really, I mean it was built up as

1303
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 4: the biggest fight of women's history and it lived up

1304
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: to that.

1305
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it was awesome.

1306
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: Let's do it a second time. Finally in the Boxing Weekend,

1307
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 4: Luke Sunday from Kiratiba, Brazil, you can pick this fight

1308
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: up on the fight app. Chris Cyborg gonna make that

1309
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: pro boxing debut ten rounds junior middleweights against MMA fighter,

1310
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: also from Brazil, Simone da Silva. Now Da Silva has

1311
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: lost her last three mixed martial arts fights. She's eight

1312
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 4: and four in MMA, and of note, Luke, she got

1313
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 4: knocked out in twenty seventeen in the first round by

1314
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 4: Jungway Lee under the Kunlan Fight MMA banner your koun

1315
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 4: Lun Yeah, there you go, rising rising. I'm here either way.

1316
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 4: Your interest level in Chris Cyborg stretching out a little.

1317
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 2: Happy for her. I hope she gets some good money

1318
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: from it as a boxing event. Watch.

1319
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: I won't all right in that comin event, it's an exhibition.

1320
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: He's old, he's pushing fifty. But look, do you remember

1321
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: Asselino Popo Freitas from Brazil, great fighter about fifteen twenty

1322
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 4: years ago in the you know, featherweight area, spectacular fighter,

1323
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: knockout artist. But Luke, do you know why his nickname

1324
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: is Popo?

1325
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

1326
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: In Brazil, that's the sound apparently of a boy nursing

1327
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 4: on his mother's nipple, and Osselino and his siblings did

1328
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: that until they were thirteen. Luke, this is not BC

1329
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: getting weird and making shit up, all right.

1330
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: This is press fed until he was thirteen.

1331
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 4: Well, that's weird, first of all. And his fight nickname

1332
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 4: is the sound it makes when a thirteen year old

1333
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 4: is still getting breast fed.

1334
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: Shouldn't they all just be in jail, just all of them,

1335
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: just the whole thing? Well fit, all right, just put

1336
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 2: him in jail.

1337
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 4: I mean, what are we doing transitioning to top by

1338
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 4: the way.

1339
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: By the way, how about he's taking on jose Landy Johns,

1340
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: who is like a fucking Valley tudo legend. Oh oh yeah, yeah, dude,

1341
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: jose Landy john has fought like think he thought, Chuck Ladell.

1342
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: He fought a bunch of fucking guys. He's one of

1343
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: the one of the pioneers from Brazil in Valley Tuto. Yeah, dude,

1344
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: that's a that's a boxer versus like kind of like

1345
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: an MMA guy match.

1346
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'll be looking for it, Luke, Sunday be there. Finally,

1347
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 4: Topic five is our quick Hitters. Let's start here, Luke.

1348
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 4: So this is a little peculiar. There's a video out

1349
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: there of Bella to or CEO Scott Koker talking to

1350
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 4: BBC Sport about Nate Diaz. He says, quote, well, we

1351
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 4: are definitely talking to him. We've reached out and I

1352
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 4: know he's probably talking to everybody. He's I think in

1353
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 4: a pretty good situation. I know he wants to fight

1354
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 4: Jake Paul. Jake's Paul is fighting Jake. Paul excuse me,

1355
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 4: is fighting Anders and Silva on Showtime pay per view,

1356
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 4: which is our home network. So there's some synergies there, Luke.

1357
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: Then Arieljwani went on tow that, like, don't believe the

1358
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 4: rumors you're hearing about that, because Nate is still under

1359
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: this three month window clause where he's legally not allowed

1360
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: to negotiate with anybody. So apparently that didn't happen or

1361
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: that shouldn't have happened.

1362
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: Dude, Scott Cookers literally out there just saying things. And

1363
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: here's the best part about it, here's why he did it.

1364
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: By the way, true or false? Did I not indicate

1365
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: that this was true to you forty eight hours ago

1366
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: when we had a conversation.

1367
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, You're like, they're not talking to Nate

1368
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 4: at all, right.

1369
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: So I had I spoke to some folks in the industry,

1370
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: and that's my understanding as well that for the first

1371
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: time I think of the modern contracts, the UFC decided

1372
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: to activate the ninety day it's where they have So

1373
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: the way his contract works is there's a ninety day

1374
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: exclusive negotiating period where he can literally talk to nobody else,

1375
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: which is why if you look at Aria hale Wani's tweet,

1376
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: it says it's illegal. He's right, He's one hundred percent right.

1377
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: And then there's the year long portion where they could

1378
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: match anyone. The question you have to ask yourself first

1379
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: is why would the UFC, Why would would Nate be

1380
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: the first guy ever for the UFC to invoke this

1381
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: clause and b. Does it really mean they might try

1382
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: to match him for a year so that he can't

1383
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: go anywhere else? They might, they might, It's it's certainly

1384
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. That's the first time I said.

1385
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 4: Dude, that opens up a giant can of worms potentially.

1386
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: Right, dude, And well, and here's the thing. UFC hasn't

1387
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: activated this with anybody else. But I remember, for example,

1388
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: a very different situation. But it's the point I want

1389
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: to make. You haven't seen UFC go white knuckle with

1390
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: one of their guys they're beefing with. But I lived

1391
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: through Kator saying he was retiring from his UFC contract

1392
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: and at the time trying to go to hd net

1393
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: so he could fight fad Or. And dude, when the

1394
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 2: UFC goes white knuckle, they go fucking white knuckle. They

1395
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: won that whole thing pretty cleanly, even though it took

1396
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: a little while for it to I'll get worked out.

1397
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: So we haven't seen that in a long time. Is

1398
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 2: that around the corner? And if so, what will that mean?

1399
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 2: There is a huge can of worms. But as it

1400
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: relates to like wi Scott Cooker, here's why he said that.

1401
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't talked to Scott So I don't know,

1402
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: but dude, Mma, media will print anything. They will fucking

1403
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: print anything. All you have to do is be like yo,

1404
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: ex famous relevant person said the moon is made of

1405
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: green cheese. Fucking the moon is made of green cheese.

1406
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: They'll just reprint the shit everywhere they go. So that's

1407
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: why he Why wouldn't you say it? Even if you're

1408
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: not even remotely involved in negotiations? I don't know what

1409
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: the actual state of things are. Again, Native is under

1410
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: contract with you with UFC still in this ninety day period, Like,

1411
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: even if that's one thousand percent untrue, why would you

1412
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: not say it? They're just gonna reprint, like fucking stenographers

1413
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: everything you say, and sure enough they did amazing, amazing.

1414
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 4: If you're not benefiting from the Dana White privilege, Luke,

1415
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 4: you're gonna get the Dana White knuckle. You're saying the

1416
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 4: moose knuckle. You're you're gonna get it, all right, you

1417
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

1418
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna get the d what's the data? Let's walk,

1419
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: let's walk this little joke of yours through. What is

1420
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: the Dana White moose knuckle? Please tell me?

1421
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 4: You can do the math. There, Luke, you and I

1422
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: had that talk. I'm trying to clean the show up. Okay, right,

1423
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: all right, right, Nate would go on to tweet Wednesday,

1424
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: I'm only going to fight the rock otherwise I'm good.

1425
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: Is he talking about Dwayne Johnson or is he talking

1426
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: about recreational drugs?

1427
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: Luke, I was wondering where you were gonna go because

1428
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: you knew the answer was Dwayne Johnson. What other rock

1429
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: could he go to?

1430
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

1431
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 2: Drugs?

1432
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, you know where I come from, Luke. Either

1433
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 4: you're slinging crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot. Luke,

1434
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 4: Let's go to the more quick hitters. Chuckledell's wife, unfortunately,

1435
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 4: claims he has CTE. This is according to court documents

1436
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 4: obtained by The Blast from their divorce, which was filed

1437
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 4: by Laddell three days after he was charged for misdemeanor

1438
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: domestic battery. Luke, anytime this stuff is coming out in

1439
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: the midst of a heated divorce, emotions are high and

1440
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 4: you have to take that with a grain of salt.

1441
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: But Chuck Ladell also has been through the wars. I

1442
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised. It's sad. It's a sad reality of

1443
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 4: this game. How do you feel this news?

1444
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: Well, part of this is through I think divorce proceedings,

1445
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: and you know, as the child of parents who had

1446
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: what can only be described as one of the most

1447
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: contentious divorces I've ever seen. Like literally, I was thinking

1448
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: about this. I know a bunch of people whose parents

1449
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: also got divorced, and their situation was it nearly as

1450
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: terrible as the one I went through. So having seen that,

1451
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: what I can tell you is either side will say

1452
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of shit to damage the other side for

1453
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: any number of reasons, monetary reasons, custody, who the fuck knows, right,

1454
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 2: So let's just take with a grain of salt anything

1455
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: that's being said in either direction. First. Second, I would

1456
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: also caution CTE is something that, as it stands medically today,

1457
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 2: is only diagnosed after death. Now, you can obviously exhibit

1458
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: signs that give medical professionals strong reason to believe you

1459
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: could have it, but it's only really diagnosable in that

1460
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,879
Speaker 2: sense once the brain has been evaluated after they've expired,

1461
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: So we don't actually know if he's got it. But

1462
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: let's also just be real for a second, dude, Chuck

1463
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: Liddell took a fucking mountain of damage, and took a

1464
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: mountain of damage long past the point where he shouldn't. Like, honestly,

1465
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: after the Rashad fight, he probably should have called it

1466
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: a quits. And by the time the Rashad fight happened,

1467
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: it told you he was in really, really, really really

1468
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: bad shape. So to me, it's like impossible to imagine

1469
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: a scenario where he hasn't suffered significant brain trauma, how

1470
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 2: far it actually has gone, and then what real world

1471
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: consequences there are. Remember, this is the middle of a

1472
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: divorce proceeding or some kind of custody battle, or you know,

1473
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: two people who are not in alignment with their interests

1474
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,839
Speaker 2: together about a life. So you need to be careful

1475
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: about what people are saying. But the idea that like

1476
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: Chuck could just do what he did in his career

1477
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: and his brain would more or less be okay seems

1478
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: utterly absurd. Of Like, of course, he's going to be

1479
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: dealing with very serious consequences. The specific nature of them,

1480
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see over time.

1481
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Rashad Ko loss was the first and four

1482
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 4: consecutive to end his career. Well, it was showgun in

1483
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 4: Rich Franklin and they retired in then eight years later, Luke, I.

1484
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: Mean you remember the Tito fight. He just had the'll

1485
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: get the Golden Boy thing. I mean, just epically awful,

1486
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: awful on every way.

1487
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Rashod fight was three in four fights

1488
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: when you consider the Rampage knockout loss and the loss

1489
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 4: to Keith Jardine, which was a sneaky good fight, right

1490
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 4: Keith Jardine and Chuck that was not bad, yes.

1491
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: And also Chuck hurt Jardine a little bit, I think,

1492
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 2: and the Rampage one that was like prime rampage or

1493
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: like pretty close to prime rampage. So I didn't mind

1494
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: him losing that one. That was like, hey, that is

1495
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: what it is. But dude, after Rashad shut the lights

1496
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: off in Atlanta, it was time, Luke.

1497
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: Kevin Holland is possibly cryptically shutting the lights off on

1498
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 4: his career. Here's a IG post he put out that

1499
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 4: said quote had a good run thirty in a little

1500
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 4: over a month, got paid. I'm out next career move

1501
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 4: dot dot dot. So he's saying he got paid for

1502
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 4: the Chimayav step up, which you know Dana said he didn't.

1503
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 4: But let's see who we believe he's not talking about.

1504
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 4: He's not, he's not, He's just what is he doing?

1505
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: Look?

1506
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 4: Is this some Tyson fury bullshit?

1507
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: What is he doing? I don't, I don't understand. I don't.

1508
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: I mean, did he listen? I'm sure that that, you know,

1509
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: all those guys who the six fighters who switched their

1510
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: whole shit up prior to after the way inso of

1511
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: UFC two seventy nine, I'm sure they had UFC by

1512
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: the balls and they were able to make you know,

1513
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: some money from that. Okay, fair enough, but was it

1514
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: really like I can retire money. I'm skeptical of that.

1515
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: I guess everyone's got different medical or I should say,

1516
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: different financial goals. And I'm sure he again, I'm sure

1517
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: he got paid quite handsomely, but I don't know. That

1518
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: seems a little weird to me. I mean, he's still

1519
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: got a lot of fight left in him from what

1520
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: I can tell, So I don't I don't believe it.

1521
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: I'll just put that I don't actually think he's done fighting.

1522
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 4: Is this a leverage thing?

1523
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

1524
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: it is. Maybe he was maybe maybe he just you

1525
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: know who knows having a good day, feeling pretty good,

1526
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: looking at his bank account, thinking do I really want

1527
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: to keep doing this bullshit? Like I understand that too.

1528
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 4: What Wasgregor's favorite McGregor's famous tweet after.

1529
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: The thanks for the cheesela, Yeah yeah, I'm out. Yeah

1530
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: all right, but he made he made like good money.

1531
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 4: Actor Tom Hardy is making the headlines here in the

1532
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: combat game. The Brazilian jiu jitsu blue belt just won

1533
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 4: his third straight BJJ tournament in a month, This most

1534
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 4: recent one, I think was coming overseas, Uh, you care

1535
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: about this at all?

1536
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: This?

1537
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 4: This is pretty cool, right.

1538
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: I'll say this. I mean, the one thing I don't

1539
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 2: like is when everyone was like blowing Mark Zuckerberg for

1540
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: training like a goof with some actual other fighter, and

1541
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, I love this guy. You fucking hypocrite losers,

1542
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: Go fuck yourself. Every one of you breaks me about

1543
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: how much you can't stand tech oligarchs running over our life,

1544
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: and then one of them shows moderate interest in the sport. Oh,

1545
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: this is fucking great. You're a fucking hypocrite loser with

1546
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: zero principles whatsoever, So fuck that guy. Tom Hardy, on

1547
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: the other hand seems like a great dude. I welcome him.

1548
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: I think it's cool. The only thing I would just

1549
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: slow people's role a little bit is it's great that

1550
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 2: he's doing it. He obviously seems to be pretty talented.

1551
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: But you know, if you go to a gym, like

1552
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 2: people who compete they go every weekend to like places

1553
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: all around the like the their area. You know, if

1554
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: you compete on those kinds of schedules, like they come

1555
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: like find anyone who is like, oh, I train jiu

1556
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: jitsu all the time, and then they compete, they get

1557
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: gold medals all the time. Like it's not I don't

1558
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: mean to say it's a participation trophy because it's not.

1559
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: He does show some ability, but it's not like, you know,

1560
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: it's not like he's out there winning ADCC. I just

1561
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 2: let me be clear about that a little bit.

1562
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 4: Okayh he's forty five years old, Luke, he's from London.

1563
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 4: Do you have a favorite at Tom Hardy acting role

1564
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 4: up to this point? Oh, you're a big black hawk

1565
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 4: down guy, right.

1566
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: That's a great Oh, that's a great question. Well he

1567
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: was good as Baine. That's a bigger role. Yeah, dude,

1568
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: there was even a movie he was in.

1569
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 4: Warrior, which which you know got a lot of fighting attention.

1570
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: Of course, See, he was good in Warrior because he's

1571
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: a good actor. He's good in everything. The Warrior is

1572
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: hella overrated. Okay, I don't remember the name of it,

1573
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: and I'm not even saying it's his best one. Two

1574
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: of them, two of them. There's one where he plays

1575
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: like Brothers with some other London gangster and he was.

1576
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 4: Like band of Brothers, the HBO war drammer.

1577
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no. He was like he

1578
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: was like a he was like a like a like

1579
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: a mafioso guy, but like London style. I think it's

1580
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: even based on a true story. And he plays the

1581
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: more unhinged of the two brothers, and he's fucking awesome

1582
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: in it. There's another movie where he is this dude

1583
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 2: driving this whole time, you only ever see him in

1584
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 2: the car. That's the entire movie that he makes all

1585
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: of these phone calls because he ends up being a

1586
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: dude who knocked up some other girl and he has

1587
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: to explain to his family and his job why he

1588
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 2: can't be with them because he has to go take

1589
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,839
Speaker 2: care of this other girl and do it. It sounds

1590
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: like it's a It is a weird movie. But his

1591
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: acting in that, I mean, imagine how hard that is

1592
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: to pull off. You got to be a guy driving

1593
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: in a car for an hour and a half talking

1594
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: about this shit like it's not easy to do. I

1595
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: forget the name of the movie. He kills it in

1596
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: that movie. He's really really good.

1597
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 4: He was in Inception Dunkirk. He's been a lot of big,

1598
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: big movies here.

1599
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Tom Hardy is an excellent he. I am

1600
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 2: happy to welcome to the combat sports family. But the

1601
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: rest of these fucks, can you know?

1602
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: Is there any chance Mark Zuckerberg becomes the next John DuPont.

1603
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just gonna go shoot some other wrestler.

1604
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 4: Call him snatch catcher. How about that looked all right?

1605
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

1606
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: Okay, hond I want to get the name of it.

1607
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: He was in Venom. Venom is kind of stupid. Oh.

1608
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: He was in the Revenant. He was good in that,

1609
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 2: Matt Oh, dude. He was in mad Max Fury Road.

1610
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: How am I forgetting that all the shit? That's a

1611
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: great one. He was also in Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy,

1612
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 2: which is another good movie. Kind of slow, but good. Movie.

1613
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: What is the name he's in Withering Heights, which course

1614
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: is based off the novel. I'm trying to remember the

1615
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: name of that where he's just on the phone the

1616
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: whole time.

1617
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, maybe one of our producers can find it

1618
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 4: because they're on their phone the whole time too, Luke.

1619
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 4: So maybe they can just you know, look it up.

1620
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 4: It'd be great. All right, let's keep this going here

1621
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 4: a liule quick hitters. Joe Rogan went public and said

1622
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 4: the language in his UFC contract reads that as soon

1623
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 4: as Dana White is done, so is Joe Your reaction.

1624
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, Joe's had the

1625
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: best sea. Joe's had serious question. People might think like

1626
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: Dana's had the best job in MMA, but I don't

1627
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: think that's true because he has to deal with a

1628
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: lot of bullshit and he's got long hours in his travel.

1629
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: It's like a who has This is my question to you,

1630
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: who has the best job in MMA? Is Joe Rogan?

1631
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: He's had the best seat in the house, you and

1632
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: I twenty plus years.

1633
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Rogan probably the best one. Yeah, and he

1634
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 4: got a bus.

1635
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: I love our job, but we don't have the best job.

1636
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 2: In MMA like we don't. Also, he probably makes a

1637
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: little bit more than we do, so there's that. Yeah,

1638
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: but yeah.

1639
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: We know at least we know when push comes to shove,

1640
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 4: we could take him in the low post.

1641
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, that's fair, right, Just on Joe Rogan.

1642
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh Luke. Speaking of Dana, I'd sent you that link. Yesterday,

1643
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 4: he gave an interview in which he talked about that

1644
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: there's this super doctor that can do all these blood

1645
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 4: tests on you and predict saw that. Yeah, yeah, predict

1646
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 4: like to the month at how much time you have left.

1647
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 4: So that doctor flew in and did all the tests

1648
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 4: on Dana, and he was told that he's fed up

1649
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 4: in every single category and that he's fifty three right now, Dana,

1650
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 4: and that his life expectation is less than ten years.

1651
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: No, I thought it was ten point four years.

1652
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, ten point four years. Yeah, that's that's about it, right, Yeah.

1653
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know who this guy is

1654
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 2: and how reliable that is, but honestly, would that surprise you?

1655
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, again, I don't know wish it on him,

1656
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 2: but he got that Mineir's disease, which I think was

1657
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: exacerbated by his lifestyle. Folks don't understand this anymore. Back

1658
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: in the aughts, like right after the Ultimate Fighter hit,

1659
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: before that too, but really after that, like when the

1660
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: demand for UFC began to skyrocket, Dana White went everywhere

1661
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: he could, every radio station, every newspaper, editorial board, meeting,

1662
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: every chamber of commerce, whatever it was to plead the

1663
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: case for his company and for the sport. And he

1664
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 2: was flying everywhere. He was still promoting the events. This

1665
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: guy was living like the most inadvisable for your long

1666
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 2: term health anyway, the most inadvisable lifestyle possible. But of

1667
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: course he was on a mission to promote the causes

1668
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: that he cared about, and it worked. Like look at

1669
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: the state of the UFC, look at the state of MMA,

1670
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: Like there's no denying that that push played a big role.

1671
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: But dude, you took years off your life doing that.

1672
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: So I you know, I don't wish certainly more things

1673
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: upon him. I don't know how good this doctor is,

1674
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: but I'm not surprised to hear that. I gotta be honest.

1675
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he always claims that the training camp for the

1676
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 4: Teto Artist fight that never happened took years off of

1677
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 4: his life. Because he wanted to do it legit, so

1678
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 4: he brought him legit fighters and he said he got

1679
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 4: fed up like crazy, And yeah, that's that's interesting, Luca.

1680
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: If he went to doctor Kavorki and he would have

1681
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 4: had about a ten minute lifespan until the All right, Luke,

1682
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: there's an injury to Cody Garbrand, who was already looking

1683
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 4: for a new opponent after Honey Yahya fell out. So

1684
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 4: now UFC is outright canceled Garbrand's return for UFC Fight

1685
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 4: Night sixty one. Okay, right, sure, okay October fifteenth, though,

1686
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 4: Luke is going to be UFC Fight Night Vegas sixty two.

1687
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 4: And according to MMA Island, how about this for a

1688
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 4: quick turnaround banger Daniel Rodriguez versus Neil Magni. You moved

1689
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: by this?

1690
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you do You ain't know Rodriguez man?

1691
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: He's moving on up? Is he not? Like I know?

1692
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: The win over the Leach was, you know, had some

1693
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: controversy and it was all last minute and all that

1694
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: kind of crazy stuff. But the but the guy is good.

1695
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: And listen, he's not all that young. What is he

1696
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: thirty five something like that. He's trying to make the

1697
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: most of the time he has left in the sport.

1698
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: I applaud him. Neil Magne is a tough customer. He's

1699
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 2: a real kind of guy you can prove yourself against.

1700
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: Should be a fun one, should be a very technical one.

1701
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: I love that fight. I love everything about this. Yeah,

1702
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: sign me up.

1703
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in on that, Luke. Two UFC fighters have

1704
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 4: recently failed drug tests that launched them suspensions. Walter Waite

1705
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 4: elizu Zeleski gets a one year band for ostereing. His

1706
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 4: quote was THECA the result came as a surprise to

1707
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,919
Speaker 4: all of us. Are you surprised?

1708
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm never surprised that people either a legitimately could have

1709
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: been affected by attainted supplement. That's very common. And then

1710
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: Orb just took fucking drugs Like that's.

1711
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: All these delta Ight's got in my backpack? I really,

1712
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, Luke. Also, Ascar Mozaroff, who was accused of

1713
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 4: falsifying his pro record ahead of his recent UFC debut

1714
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 4: against Alonzo Menafield, has received a six month band from

1715
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: the Navada State Athletic Commission for failing a drug test

1716
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 4: for the WATA band g W one five one six

1717
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 4: cell phone sull phone not cell phone, Luke sull phone.

1718
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is, but I'm sure it

1719
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 4: gets you high, right, I hope?

1720
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right? I think isn't that Isn't that like

1721
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: growth hormone?

1722
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really take that stuff, Luke, You

1723
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

1724
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know I need to take

1725
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: that stuff.

1726
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 4: If I'm just if we're gonna go on on a

1727
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 4: real you know, trial, run here and just juice, Luke,

1728
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 4: you think we should bring in Chefkaz. He could be

1729
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 4: both our nutritionist. I don't know if he's got connections

1730
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 4: in those areas he can put our like our our

1731
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 4: our skin in those weird balls that he has. You

1732
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You ever seeing Chefkaz is weird

1733
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 4: balls that he puts on his uh, on his muscles

1734
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: and his bones.

1735
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 2: You know I do not wish to see Chef call

1736
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: all right?

1737
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 4: Well, that was wrong of me to say that we

1738
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 4: love you should know what.

1739
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: Should do is like we should just you and I

1740
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: should leave our families for six months, get a shitty

1741
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: apartment in Jersey City. That way we could do like

1742
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: six months of in studio shows and just and just

1743
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: do all the steroids imaginable that we possibly can like

1744
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: in the worst medically advisable ways, unintelligent use cases, and

1745
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: then and then get jacked as fucking shit.

1746
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be wonderful. I'm in on that. Look. Every

1747
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 4: Friday we give the viewer a chance to sling back

1748
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 4: at us. Morning Combat at gmail dot com is where

1749
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: you send in your Wednesday fans. More importantly, every Friday

1750
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: you put us on trial. Does the glove fit? I

1751
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 4: don't know. Let's find out if we're gonna quit. This

1752
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 4: one's called dead wrong and you better bring your seat wrong.

1753
01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 4: All right? Uh this is from this guy's about the

1754
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 4: dead wrong himself. Watch this this from Edward Freeman. He says,

1755
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 4: God damn y'all old as hell. During the fill in

1756
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 4: the blank segment last episode, BC asked Luke how many

1757
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 4: points he would score against Sue Byrd, and Luke said

1758
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 4: he would try to use the Irvin Magic Johnson skyhook,

1759
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 4: which is dead wrong because that move belonged to Kareem

1760
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 4: and not Magic. Then BC followed up and said doctor

1761
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 4: j which is both dead wrong. Keep up the great work.

1762
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 4: Come to Detroit sometime, washed ass dads, it's Edward Freeman Edward,

1763
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 4: You're dead wrong in a few spots here. Okay, Luke

1764
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 4: did ascribe the move to Magic Johnson, but I acceptably said, oh,

1765
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 4: you mean the baby skyhook, which Magic used to call

1766
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 4: the junior junior skyhook, which became beginning with the middle

1767
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 4: of his career, right around nineteen eighty seven, when pat

1768
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 4: Riley asked Magic to ask Kareem if they could lower

1769
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 4: his output because he was pushing forty jumped his scoring

1770
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 4: up from eighteen to about twenty three points a game,

1771
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: and a big part of that was the six foot

1772
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 4: nine guard beginning to develop a post game that really

1773
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 4: didn't come into full appearance until the nineteen ninety one

1774
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 4: season under new head coach Mike Dunlevy, in which Magic

1775
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 4: was basically working a point forward role from the post.

1776
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 4: But we all know the skyhook is Kareem abdul Jabbar's move.

1777
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: But to act like Magic Johnson didn't make the junior

1778
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: junior skyhook a big part of his offense. I mean, look,

1779
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 4: do we remember that playoff game in the eighty seven

1780
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 4: finals against the Celtics at Boston when he hit that

1781
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 4: running skyhook over McHale Parish and Bird. I mean, what

1782
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 4: are you doing?

1783
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: I definitely don't remember what it was called. But the

1784
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: idea that magic didn't use like that hooking shot in

1785
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 2: the center lane yeautinely is not true.

1786
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know what, Edward Freeman, You're dead wrong.

1787
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 4: And then Luke had made a mention to doctor J.

1788
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 4: And I think I repeated Doctor J. But doctor J

1789
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 4: had the the cupping dunk. That was his move, right,

1790
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, what are we doing here, Edward?

1791
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? By the way, I want to do I wrong

1792
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: myself very quickly. What you're asking about Tom Hardy performances. Uh,

1793
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: someone tweeted me here, let me tell you what they're

1794
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: They're right. So I had mentioned he plays like there's

1795
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: these two brothers and he plays the crazy one. I

1796
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: forgot he actually plays both brothers. The reason but he's

1797
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: one guy playing both guys at the same time. The

1798
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: reason why I forgot about the other brother is because

1799
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: he's sort of just a relatively normal dude. It didn't

1800
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: really stand out the crazy guy. Of the two brothers

1801
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: that he plays, he does an unbelievable job. The name

1802
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: of that they're called the Kray Twins. This is from

1803
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: the movie Legend. He also recommends the movie Bronson. I

1804
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: have tried to watch the movie Bronson with my wife.

1805
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: I did like it, very violent and bloody. Also, he

1806
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: speaks with such an English accent, like almost I don't

1807
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: know if it's a Cockney accent or not. I can't remember,

1808
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 2: but I remember that, uh with the time we watched it,

1809
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: whatever service it was on at the time didn't have subtitles,

1810
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 2: and my wife was like, I don't understand a fucking

1811
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: word this guy is saying, so we can't watch this movie.

1812
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: So uh yes, I'm watched most of it, but it's

1813
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1814
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 4: Like, don't worry, we don't understand Darren Hill either. There

1815
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 4: you go, Luke, our producers Gaff and Corey wanted dead

1816
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: wrong this guy Edward for saying come to Detroit because

1817
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: under their words, why would you ever want to?

1818
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: I like Detroit style pizza. You like Detroit style pizza.

1819
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 4: I've never had Detroit style it raf BARTHOLOMEWO lives in

1820
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 4: Detroit randomly enough because his significant other is in med

1821
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: school there. We should go to Detroit and visit one day,

1822
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 4: Luke will right, maybe bring Baliah Blah.

1823
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's saying a lot I'd rather just

1824
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: I'd rather just get Detroit style pizza outside of Detroit.

1825
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 2: But I will say that Detroit style pizza is pretty good.

1826
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: It's actually it might be my favorite these days.

1827
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 4: Rafe said that not far from eight Mile there is

1828
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 4: an Italian joint that was renamed Mom Spaghetti.

1829
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: That's sad, all right.

1830
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 4: This one's from Colin Avery, he says. During fan subs

1831
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 4: of episode three fifty one, Brian said Mackinac Island, and

1832
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 4: he's dead wrong. The island and the city are both

1833
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 4: pronounced Mackinaw, even though the island is spelled differently. I'm

1834
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,440
Speaker 4: willing to forget. We give a lot of BC's washedness,

1835
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: but as a born and raised Michigan I had to

1836
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: call this one out. That being said, I'm a p

1837
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 4: one fan of the show and hope that all of

1838
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 4: your gains and hose stay loyal. Thank you, you know,

1839
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 4: very respectful Colin Avery. Here, Luke, you know a lot

1840
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 4: of people come in come down the lane looking to

1841
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 4: go harden the pain on us and dunk. This guy's like, look,

1842
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna finger roll right, Uh

1843
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,560
Speaker 4: what Okay, you've never been fingered by Colin avery that

1844
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 4: that was that was polite of him. Okay, yeah, he

1845
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 4: said it wrong. It's mackinaw Island apparently. I don't you

1846
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 4: think I care you an ooper? Is that what you

1847
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 4: are here?

1848
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: Just put a fucking w there? How hard is that?

1849
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 2: I know?

1850
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 4: I know? Seriously, all right, this is from Hawaii's own Luke.

1851
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 4: You know this guy, Telvin Key Pappa correct, Yes, okay,

1852
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 4: Aloha guys, it's your favorite Hawaiian donk. Unfortunately I have

1853
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 4: the dead wrong BC and episode three five one. When

1854
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 4: discussing Francis at about one o two into the video,

1855
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: BC said that France is coming off a KO win

1856
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 4: over Steepe, when he actually is coming off a win

1857
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 4: over Cyril Gone, which happened at dude, are you guys

1858
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 4: listening to.

1859
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: Me at all?

1860
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I know I speak a lot of bullshit.

1861
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 4: I'll take this as you probably had RB's for breakfast

1862
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 4: instead of having your athletic greens. All good, BC, love you.

1863
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 4: At least you don't wear a purse like co host.

1864
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 4: Hope you all have a great day. Aloha. Wow, Telvin

1865
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 4: redeemed Mocker. I wasn't saying that was I mean, I

1866
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 4: have to hear the tape, There's very possible that I'm

1867
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 4: just an asshole, But I thought I was saying a

1868
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 4: distinct reference to if Francis had been coming off directly

1869
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 4: that knockout of Steepe, then the UFC would be doing

1870
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 4: everything in their power to resign him and make him happy.

1871
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 4: But given the injuries, given the time off since the

1872
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 4: win over Cyril, I feel like God has lost some leverage.

1873
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 4: That was the point, if I misrepresented that, which I

1874
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,600
Speaker 4: often do, apparently, Luke. I mean, look, you've got a

1875
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 4: long history of accidentally pissing people off by saying things

1876
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 4: in the wrong frame. Maybe me too.

1877
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other part too, is so folks, wh don't

1878
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: understand when you have a job like this, Sometime in

1879
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: your mind you say something and then the way you

1880
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 2: articulate it isn't quite exactly what you had in your mind,

1881
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: but you don't remember it that way, and then you

1882
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: hear it back you're like, okay, right, but I didn't

1883
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,799
Speaker 2: mean it necessarily like this. There's there's an asymmetry between

1884
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,520
Speaker 2: the thoughts you cook up and the way you articulated,

1885
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: especially if you just talk as much as we do.

1886
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, all right, This one's from Victor

1887
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 4: Sanchez Castro on Luke's live chat. Well, look, we're really

1888
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 4: bringing your personal channel into this dead wrong.

1889
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: I listen, I didn't. I don't feel these emails. So

1890
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: whoever put this in there, you know you don't blame me.

1891
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully Victor Sanchez Castro entered the super chat Luke

1892
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 4: and helped paid for two Ki's schooling.

1893
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 2: Right, hopefully Tuki goes to public school. Fuck face.

1894
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 4: All right, all right, look sorry, sorry, I disrespect your

1895
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 4: family there, Victor says on Luke's live chat. He said

1896
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 4: that karam gabber Is that right? Karm karam karma either?

1897
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1898
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 4: One Olympic gold medal in four and a silver medal

1899
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 4: at Athens in twenty twelve. This is dead wrong, my friend.

1900
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 4: The two thousand and four Olympics were held in Athens

1901
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 4: and twenty twelve was in London. Take the L, head, Jesus,

1902
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 4: take the l and sit on it, you washed pile

1903
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 4: of garbage. Wow, love the show, it's Victor. Wow.

1904
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 2: All right, the insult's good. I like the insult, but

1905
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean this is very pedantic. But okay, wow, we

1906
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 2: had a lot of things.

1907
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 4: Dead Rock said. This one's from William Curry. You think

1908
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 4: he's related to the smashing machine.

1909
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Luke could be couldby, he says.

1910
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 4: On MK three point fifty at two hours and three

1911
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 4: minutes during BC's feces, a woman fell to the ground

1912
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 4: while riding her scooter. However, the so called book read

1913
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 4: intelligent philosopher said she fell to the floor. What kind

1914
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 4: of degenerate vap being the hillbilly poser still doesn't know

1915
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 4: the difference between the ground and the floor. Just kidding,

1916
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 4: don't get your standing up while you wipe underwear in

1917
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 4: a twist a.

1918
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: Luke, that's that's a good one. That's a good one.

1919
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 4: So he claims it's his name is Thomas Brady the third,

1920
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 4: But then he says, in case it's challenged, the Oxford

1921
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 4: English Dictionary says the floor is the lower surface of

1922
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 4: a room on which one may walk, but the ground

1923
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 4: is the solid surface of the earth. And then it

1924
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 4: says from William Kerr, I don't know who sent this email, looke,

1925
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 4: but that's pedantic as shit.

1926
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 2: Right, I know. But here's why I'll accept this l

1927
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: because he made it funny as shit, So I'll take that.

1928
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 4: Ol all right. Our final one comes from Adam Parsons

1929
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 4: of Toronto, Canada, he says, IBC. Although I appreciate you

1930
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 4: showing me love on the broadcast, the idea that a

1931
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 4: gaffer is an unimportant job is dead wrong. They are

1932
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 4: in charge of all the lighting and we're closely with

1933
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 4: the director and DP to craft all shots. Well, where

1934
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 4: I come from, DP means much something, much different. What

1935
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,919
Speaker 4: you're thinking of are pas who are also very important

1936
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 4: but have different tasks like garbage duty, set up, tear down.

1937
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm a sound mixer on the show,

1938
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 4: which your Malca friends will tell you as a key

1939
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 4: position once they put their phones down. Wow, what show?

1940
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 4: Is he a sound mixer on ours?

1941
01:32:58,680 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: No, he's not right.

1942
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 4: Who the hell's Adam Parsons? He doesn't work on our show.

1943
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke wouldn't know either way.

1944
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 2: But dude, I can't. Honestly I couldn't. I couldn't name

1945
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: three people on staff.

1946
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 4: All right, I know, filthy Phil just left and I'm heartbroken.

1947
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 2: Also, what the fuck is a key grip? You ever

1948
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 2: seen those credits of movies like key Grip?

1949
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, like best Boy comes up in the credits in

1950
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 4: the movies too. That's that seems a little. You know,

1951
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 4: that's a lot, all right, Can they hear you?

1952
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 2: They gotta hear you, bro, They gotta see this is

1953
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 2: what this is. This is the content that the fans

1954
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: need to hear. Man.

1955
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 4: I mean they used to see Jay Aaron's face. Can

1956
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 4: we see yours?

1957
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Minich?

1958
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 4: All right?

1959
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Right, everyone's everyone is better at us because we just

1960
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 2: call everyone producers when there's like different roles. But you know,

1961
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean y'all are fucking producers.

1962
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,719
Speaker 4: Like that's what some of you are, food producers.

1963
01:33:58,800 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1964
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 4: You make sure we get our our meal and there

1965
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 4: you go. All right, thank you, Thank you to our

1966
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: great staff too. Luke. We close on Friday sometimes to

1967
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 4: kill a little bit of time and have some fun

1968
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 4: with a no holds barred segment that we call MK

1969
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 4: happy Hour. So tip your waitresses. Yeah, yeah, there we

1970
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 4: go there It is all right, Luke.

1971
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Where are you going?

1972
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 4: I'm grabbing my my drink for happy Hour?

1973
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: Luke? What is that fucking orc juice? Oh?

1974
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 4: You doing a bit a little bit, a little bit

1975
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 4: of a bit there, Luke, all right, Luke MK.

1976
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: I watched real quickly. I watched the first episode of

1977
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,839
Speaker 2: and Or on Disney Plus my kids.

1978
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 4: Told me this morning that we need to start watching

1979
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 4: that this weekend, so I will be watching that with them.

1980
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts?

1981
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's what I'll say. Like, I didn't care

1982
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 2: for the Obi Wan series because it was like, as

1983
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: we talked about, it was like half well per and

1984
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 2: then half like they spent five dollars on the fucking

1985
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: scene and Flea is running around on like, you know,

1986
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: a community college, fucking av club set.

1987
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got on his cock, yeah I know that.

1988
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the worst. So so I didn't love that.

1989
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: Mandalorian and I like a lot book of Boba Fett

1990
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 2: is for simpletons, Let's be very clear about that. And

1991
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 2: uh so this one, okay, I've only seen one episode.

1992
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 2: I think there's three out now. It's definitely very well made,

1993
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: very well made. Uh and uh the lead actor it's

1994
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 2: Diego Luna, right, that's his name. I think that's his name.

1995
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I'll double looking it up now, Luke.

1996
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,959
Speaker 4: I figured I should do a little bit of background

1997
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 4: on this.

1998
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: The guy who plays Cassium, Yeah, I think his name

1999
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: is Diego.

2000
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 4: Is this related? This is related to Rogue one, right,

2001
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 4: because that's where.

2002
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: That's the role that this is like a precursor to

2003
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: Rogue one, and.

2004
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 4: That's arguably the second best Star Wars movie ever made. Look,

2005
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 4: let's be fair about that.

2006
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of fan service, but it's a

2007
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 2: good movie. But what I would say is this, it's

2008
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: a little slow. It's very well made, it's very well acted.

2009
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 2: They definitely put in more effort than they did on

2010
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: the Obi Wan series, for sure, and it's got a

2011
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 2: lot it's I think it has more potential. So I

2012
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 2: want to see how the next two episodes go. But

2013
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, bro, I'm I just like I'm

2014
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 2: a little bit out on Star Wars now, Like, oh,

2015
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: we're gonna fight the Empire. I'm like, I don't really

2016
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 2: give a fuck that you're fighting the Empire anymore. Doesn't

2017
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: mean like let the Empire win. I just don't. I

2018
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 2: don't really give a shit, to be quite candid with you, Like,

2019
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: all right, they don't really invest me in the struggle.

2020
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Uh in so far in and Or so, there's guy's

2021
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: got potential. I guess we'll see it's.

2022
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 4: A timeless struggle. Good versus evil, right us versus that?

2023
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 2: But like and Or is, we'll see. I don't know,

2024
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: we'll see, We'll see, all right.

2025
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 4: I'll watch it and get back to you. I did

2026
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 4: like Obi Wan despite some of those production issues we

2027
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 4: talked about. I have yet to see the Albafet one.

2028
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm anxious, yeah, anxious for a new Mandalorian season. You know,

2029
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 4: is it overkill in general? Hell? Yeah, it is, Luke,

2030
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 4: but it's a you know, it's a money making boon.

2031
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 4: But I will say this, the totality of the spinoff

2032
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 4: projects in this new era with George Lucas out, Dude,

2033
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 4: it's so much better than like episodes one to three.

2034
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 4: And even though people have a lot of love for

2035
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,560
Speaker 4: those cartoon series, and look, I watched half of that

2036
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,520
Speaker 4: Rebels season. It was good. I think that the presentation

2037
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 4: of these is like some of the best shit Star

2038
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 4: Wars ever done. Right. I mean it's gritty, it's right.

2039
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 4: I mean like Rogue one opened up a new idea

2040
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 4: of what a war, what a Star Wars war movie

2041
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 4: could look like.

2042
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's also a lot of fan service for dorks.

2043
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,560
Speaker 2: That's a big part of it too, But but it

2044
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: was entertaining. It was it felt a little bit different.

2045
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 2: It didn't feel so Jedi versus Sith all the time,

2046
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 2: although those one dude who was like I am with

2047
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 2: the Fourth Forces with me, I'm like, yo, shut the

2048
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 2: fuck up, bro.

2049
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 4: No, No, Jude Samurai Jedi. That guy's one of the

2050
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 4: coolest characters. Who ever was Luke?

2051
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 2: Nah nah, get the fuck out of here with that.

2052
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: But uh, but you know, it definitely had it, definitely

2053
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 2: has some charm. I enjoyed it. I've watched it several

2054
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 2: times since. I really enjoyed it.

2055
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 4: But is that guy in this series? No, that guy

2056
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 4: died in Rogue one, well, since it's.

2057
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: A precursor, but no, the only one. Again, I'm only

2058
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 2: one episode in the only one I've seen thus far

2059
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 2: that is a carryover from Rogue One would be Cassian.

2060
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 4: That's it, okay, okay, uh, Luke, big news, that seems

2061
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 4: to be fluid. I'm a Celtics fan, so this matters

2062
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 4: to me. First year coach, I'm a Udoka who led

2063
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,879
Speaker 4: the Celtics to the finals last year and in defeat,

2064
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 4: but a big mid season turnaround, he's suspended for the

2065
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 4: whole damn year for a consensual inappropriate relationship with the

2066
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 4: female staff or so, Luke, the immediate and I was

2067
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 4: part of this immediate like a year's suspension for something

2068
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 4: that I know as an HR violation. I believe me,

2069
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 4: I get it, but a year. But then people are saying, look,

2070
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 4: the coach didn't dispute it, he said he accepts it.

2071
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 4: All we find out that the team was actually willing

2072
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 4: to fire him. Now it seems like is I feel

2073
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 4: like things are going a little deeper now that that

2074
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of truth that did not come

2075
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 4: out in the story.

2076
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 2: It seems I mean, it's just weird to me that,

2077
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: like when the reporters initially started reporting this, that they

2078
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 2: said that this was a consensual relationship, but they had

2079
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 2: no other details about what had happened. It's like, why

2080
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 2: are you so confident in the detail that it was

2081
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 2: consensual but you have nothing else to report about it.

2082
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 2: That seems a little odd to me personally. And then

2083
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 2: sure enough we find out that this morning I think

2084
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 2: it was was it Shams who reported it over from

2085
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: stadium that is he unathletic too, Yeah, he's on both,

2086
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: I think, but he he ends up reporting that it

2087
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 2: may have been consensual at one point, but then eventually

2088
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 2: it turned out to not be and that he ended

2089
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: up sending messages where the person in question here, whoever

2090
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 2: this woman is on staff, that she was not not threatened,

2091
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 2: but like harassed in some kind of way.

2092
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 4: Are you talking likest Brett Favre Jen Sterger type level here?

2093
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Jen Stger follows me on Twitter. I

2094
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 2: think or whatever her she changed her last name, she

2095
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: got married or something, But I don't know if it's

2096
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 2: on that level. We don't have this is my point.

2097
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 2: We don't have any these details. But like they rushed

2098
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 2: out me like, well, it was consensual. But if it's consensual,

2099
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 2: why would you suspend a guy for a fucking year?

2100
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: This is like the weirdest punishment on earth because it's like,

2101
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 2: if someone is deserving to be suspended for a year,

2102
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 2: you might as well just fire him. But they didn't

2103
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 2: fire him, So what did he do that? Where it's

2104
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: kind of like bad enough to not lose your job

2105
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 2: but be inactive basically for a year, but not bad

2106
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 2: enough to get fired. I guess this is it. This dude,

2107
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 2: what's what's the coach's name? I forget his name again?

2108
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 4: I mean Udoka, who people need to realize has been

2109
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 4: engaged for I believe a decade toe Along Kneel Long's

2110
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 4: who's still got it? Luke?

2111
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 2: You know, I mean along is a treasure. Like I'm like, dude,

2112
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: you got greedy, You got real greedy like you? I

2113
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 2: mean to punt on that is shocking.

2114
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, give to the needy, right, You've been eating long

2115
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 4: enough now, all right? That was a deep sorry about that.

2116
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't believe it. But Brett Farve is

2117
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: the bigger story than me.

2118
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 4: Well before we transition to that, and I think it's

2119
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 4: connected in the way that rightfully, when the news first

2120
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 4: came out about Udoka, people are going like, so the

2121
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 4: African American man's getting the one year suspension and everyone

2122
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 4: else is sort of getting nothing for you know, worse offenses.

2123
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 4: But there does seem to be deeper details. I agree

2124
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 4: with you that if it's that severe, just fire already.

2125
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,759
Speaker 4: But the fact that he just came out and accepted

2126
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 4: it does tend to tell you that there's deeper details there,

2127
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 4: but that that's going to hurt the team in a

2128
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 4: big way. Although that's not the primary story obviously at

2129
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 4: this moment. But the Brett Farr thing is weird, Luke.

2130
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 4: So I don't know how we got here, but he's

2131
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:02,440
Speaker 4: being accused of defrauding welfare in the state of Mississippi

2132
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 4: upwards of five million. Is like, how does he How

2133
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 4: was he even in a spot to do that?

2134
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 2: Uh? Through connections from with the former governor and then

2135
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: folks who are in charge of It's a whole little

2136
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 2: network that he was working with. But basically the idea

2137
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 2: is he was paid one point one million in speaking

2138
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 2: fees for talks he never gave. My understanding is he

2139
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 2: had to return that money. But then the other part,

2140
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: the five million, he didn't pocket that, but it went

2141
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 2: to the University of Southern Mississippi where hello, he went

2142
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 2: and his daughter now goes who plays volleyball there, so

2143
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: they could have a new facility. I mean, dude, you

2144
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: are talking about the fucking scummiest behavior, not imaginable but

2145
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: just I mean real, absolutely, Like, dude, Brett Farr's a dirtbag, right,

2146
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: sending dick picks to Jen Sturger and then taking money

2147
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 2: that was supposed to go to welfare funds like the

2148
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: neediest people. And again, Mississippi, the poorest state in the Union,

2149
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 2: the poorest state in the Union, five million dollars, so

2150
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 2: that your Alma mater where your daughter plays, who's probably

2151
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 2: had the most charmed life imaginable. I could have a

2152
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 2: new recreational facility. And by the way, I don't know

2153
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 2: if you know this detail, the funds as they are constructed,

2154
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 2: they can't go to brick and mortar construction. That you

2155
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 2: have to find another way. So they cleverly worded the

2156
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 2: contract to be basically like a sub lease so they

2157
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 2: could actually make that happen because you wouldn't be able

2158
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 2: to do it otherwise. So like, dude, the levels of

2159
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: duplicity then, you know, to say nothing of who you're

2160
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 2: taking money from to do this is fucking mine blowing,

2161
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: well mine blowing.

2162
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I'm used to this, having coming from areas both

2163
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 4: the town I'm from and the city next to it,

2164
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 4: where it's a regular thing for the mayors to end

2165
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 4: up in jail at the end of their term for

2166
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 4: misappropriation of funds or taking handoff. I mean, look, the

2167
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 4: history is there. It's like one after another. I mean,

2168
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, rip the late mayor Bill

2169
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 4: Rado went to jail for a bribe, came out got

2170
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 4: reelected at AJD. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Luke but

2171
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 4: in this case it was the former director of the

2172
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 4: Mississippi Department of Human Services entered a guilty plea for

2173
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 4: misdirecting more than seventy million in.

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Speaker 2: Total welfare for that was yesterday, yes, and eight.

2175
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 4: Point one million of those are directly related to FARV,

2176
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 4: five million to the construction of a volleyball building at

2177
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 4: the Alma Mater Southern Mississippi, and two million for a

2178
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 4: pharmaceutical startup that FARV has been an investor. So FARV

2179
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 4: repaid one point one million for the uncompleted speaking engagements.

2180
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 4: Obviously we don't know, I mean, we don't know to

2181
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 4: the full level, Luke of his involvement on there, but

2182
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 4: it does.

2183
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 2: Have you read the text messages. No, he is intimately involved,

2184
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 2: including to a point where he's asking one of his

2185
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 2: intermediaries involved on the government side. How are we sure

2186
01:44:56,120 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 2: the media won't find out about this? Dude, I mean

2187
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: caught dude. He he might be in big trouble. He

2188
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 2: might be in big trouble. This is this is not

2189
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 2: just you know, a gross piece of shit thing where

2190
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,839
Speaker 2: it's like you're like, oh, like an worse.

2191
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 4: Than Martha Stewart and Aunt Becky from Full House. This

2192
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 4: is worse than that.

2193
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, here's the thing, Like on Becky

2194
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 2: from Full House, they definitely fucked over people who were

2195
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 2: more deserving, but that was like rich people just trying

2196
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 2: to like game their way in for you know, to

2197
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 2: look nice in rich people's society. And again that means

2198
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,560
Speaker 2: it was at the expense of people who might have

2199
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 2: been middle class or even poor deserving. But that's not

2200
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 2: so widespread. I mean, it's not great, but it's not

2201
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 2: so widespread in terms of the overall effect it could have,

2202
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, individually, but this is like Jesus man, you're

2203
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you're taking from the need the observably the

2204
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 2: neediest people in the neediest state in the in the country. Also,

2205
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: your daughter could have a nicer environment to go play

2206
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 2: her fucking meaningless volleyball career. Wow boy, you really have

2207
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 2: to think, you basically have to think everyone around you

2208
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 2: other than the people who enable your lifestyle are peasants,

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01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:13,839
Speaker 2: absolute scum.

2210
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 4: You know, you know, famous people with control love sending

2211
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 4: stick picks to women. They love it.

2212
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:20,799
Speaker 2: Like that was never.

2213
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 4: Know even you know, no, no, Luke, oh, by the way,

2214
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 4: you you totally offered that out as if you have,

2215
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 4: and I don't want to.

2216
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not stupid enough to leave digital

2217
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,600
Speaker 2: footprints that uh like like old Brett Farvkan like, you

2218
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 2: gotta be careful out there. But I definitely know dudes

2219
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 2: who've done it. Dude, I know so many guys who

2220
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 2: have purchased like time with whoors and stuff.

2221
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, okay, okay, okay, I mean your

2222
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 4: your marine buddies, right, soldiers fill the hotels on the weekends.

2223
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 4: We know what they do there, Dude, I.

2224
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: Got to support the troops. I'm like, well most of them, yes,

2225
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 2: not all. Let me let me assure you.

2226
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 4: Oh look, something I missed in the uh in the

2227
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 4: Quick Hitters was Geronte Davis is gonna have a December

2228
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 4: twelfth trial after a judge rejected his plea deal in

2229
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 4: that twenty twenty hit and run in which he was

2230
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 4: caught on tape in Baltimore leaving the scene of an

2231
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 4: accident in which he was driving. We were under the

2232
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,879
Speaker 4: idea that a December pay per view return is potentially

2233
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:18,759
Speaker 4: in play. I wonder how this affects that, but right, that's.

2234
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 2: The justice system. The story there was that he had

2235
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 2: had a plea agreement with the prosecutors to avoid jail time,

2236
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: and it did involve like a couple of months of

2237
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 2: like home confinement, right, some you know, community service and

2238
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 2: some other stuff. They would have to have to pay

2239
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: a fine and shit like that, but he was going

2240
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 2: to avoid jail time. The judge rejected it. The judge

2241
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:41,679
Speaker 2: was like, no, so now gay guys for a jury. Yeah,

2242
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 2: quick update an update.

2243
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 5: YouTube has been having major issues with their live streaming

2244
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 5: across the board for the past five to ten minutes.

2245
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 5: I've been sorting it out in the background, trying to

2246
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 5: hope it would come back. So we just got a

2247
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 5: new link up just so you know, we're live on

2248
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 5: a new link, so the viewers are all transferring over.

2249
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 5: So if you guys just there's going to be pieces

2250
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 5: that will have to re upload. All the live streaming

2251
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 5: on YouTube essentially crashed. So we're back up on the

2252
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 5: secondary link.

2253
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 4: And this show is now being watched on a new

2254
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 4: live link.

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01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 2: I got. I got a feeling that it's not exactly

2256
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 2: that people.

2257
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, well they maybe show there was like

2258
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 5: thirteen hundred viewers, so they're transferring back over. And I

2259
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 5: just wanted to give you guys the update. We're slowly

2260
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 5: getting people over to.

2261
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 2: The new link.

2262
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:28,560
Speaker 4: Luke, do you know what I'm going to try to

2263
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 4: do this weekend?

2264
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 2: Lucy? I don't know. Tell me? Uh?

2265
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,839
Speaker 4: Do you have you heard about this David Bowie documentary

2266
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 4: that's being played in Imax theaters across the country right now?

2267
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 2: Of course I have not.

2268
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 4: Okay, It's called moon Age Daydream, and apparently there's this

2269
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 4: real artsy director who was given the blessing of a

2270
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 4: still alive Bowie before his death to sort of undertake

2271
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 4: this project. And I'm told you have to see it

2272
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,600
Speaker 4: in Imax and that it you know, if you're a

2273
01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 4: Bowie fan at all or interested or cures that the

2274
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 4: combination of concert footage and and Bowie, you know, narrating

2275
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 4: his own life before his death, there is riveting, artsy

2276
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 4: and transcendent, Luke. That's not going to lead you to

2277
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 4: a to purchase a ticket. I got to see it.

2278
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 4: I gotta see it, Luke.

2279
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I did take my wife and daughter to that.

2280
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 2: We have a freedom Freedo Callo exhibit here in DC,

2281
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: like a little like a pop up museum to her

2282
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: life and artwork. Okay, took I took I took Tukster

2283
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 2: and my wife to It's pretty cool.

2284
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 4: Did Tukes enjoy it or she just like where's the

2285
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 4: she did.

2286
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: They had a lot of stuff for children. She got

2287
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 2: her face painted and then we pulled up. So it's funny.

2288
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, the day we went, the ambassador from Mexico

2289
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 2: to the United States was there rap behind us and

2290
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 2: they had a whole like security detail and everything with

2291
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 2: just randomly that we we happen to go at the

2292
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 2: same time. So when we pulled up and parked the

2293
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 2: car do they had Mariachi's playing outside. Man, if you

2294
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 2: can't get busy with Mariachi's, fuck your life, Like that's

2295
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 2: a good time. So too, you love the Mariachis.

2296
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 4: Dude, I get fired up at the Mexican restaurant when

2297
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 4: when you don't know the Mariachi band is there and

2298
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 4: then there's suddenly they're there. Luke okay and it's on.

2299
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm into that.

2300
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's weird and uh, Mariachis should be

2301
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: to be very explicit about this. That is a very

2302
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 2: it's a Mexican thing, to be clear. That's like, that's

2303
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 2: that's what it's their invention to the among many other

2304
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 2: things into the musical world. But in Colombia, when you

2305
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 2: are serenading a girl like if once you do it

2306
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: like in a very serious way, you have to bring

2307
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 2: apparently Mariachi's to serenade her outside her window. My wife

2308
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: is often told me that that's a thing I've not

2309
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 2: done sufficiently for her. Yeah.

2310
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 4: In the States, we have that tradition where you have

2311
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,719
Speaker 4: to ask the old krusty dad for permission. In Columbia,

2312
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 4: they're like, no, just hire a band, you're good and

2313
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 4: forget their bo box John Cuzac, you know, just hire

2314
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 4: the band.

2315
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 2: I mean, for the day before we got married from

2316
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 2: my wife and I, we went to a like a

2317
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: party that our family threw for us, and they had

2318
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: Mariachi's there.

2319
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 4: Fun Could they play in Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel

2320
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:57,839
Speaker 4: Like a yeah.

2321
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 2: No, but they would play all the hits that Mariachi's play,

2322
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 2: so it was good.

2323
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 4: Okay, uh luke I I cautioned into this conversation, But

2324
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 4: you listen to any good music lately?

2325
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 2: Am I listening to any good music lately? Nothing new?

2326
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 2: Nothing new? No, I can't. I mean, I'm listening to

2327
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 2: what I've normally listened to, but there's nothing that I've

2328
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: really found that really got my attention. Why did you

2329
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 2: find some gems?

2330
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 4: Well, I'm always finding gems. That's why we have a

2331
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 4: once in a while segment called Vinyl Intercourse. I'm trying

2332
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 4: to bring back, Luke, because you apparently there's t shirts

2333
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:37,640
Speaker 4: that you can buy on the website for that.

2334
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 2: I didn't.

2335
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 4: I didn't, okay that, but whatever. But so you're like, no,

2336
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 4: just the same old hate. That's what I'm listening to you.

2337
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke, you listen to.

2338
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 2: Hate music, not exclusively, okay, if it's not.

2339
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 4: Death metal, is it automatically reggaeton?

2340
01:51:55,680 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: No, it's more so like hardcore rap. That's the last

2341
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 2: majority of what I listened to is metaline.

2342
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 4: All right, I guess I'm much more easy listening than you, Luke,

2343
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 4: not that I spend all my time in the yacht

2344
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 4: rock zone.

2345
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: But you know, okay, well, I mean, you know, one

2346
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 2: of us is a fan of the Indigo Girls, and

2347
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 2: one of us isn't, and one of us has it

2348
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 2: says that to the.

2349
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 4: World, despite the color of my car, that is not me.

2350
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 2: At the end, my car fucking yesterday broke down. I've

2351
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 2: had this car since twenty fifteen, never had a problem

2352
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 2: with it, so it's twenty fifteen, so it's twenty twenty two.

2353
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 2: I've had this car seven years, right, have never taken

2354
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 2: it too the shop because it never needed it. Obviously.

2355
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 2: I've kept it oil changed and everything else like that,

2356
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 2: but never had an issue with it. And uh so

2357
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 2: yesterday I was actually going to retrieve stuff from my

2358
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 2: office across town and as I'm pulling into the garage,

2359
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 2: it just shuts off, and I'm like, what the fuck?

2360
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 2: And then it comes back on and then I hit

2361
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: the gas ped a little bit more and then it

2362
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 2: shut off again, and I was like, dude, I cannot

2363
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 2: have my car stall out inside the garage, like the

2364
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 2: ceilings are really low and shit, like how am I

2365
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 2: going to get it out? And so I just turned

2366
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 2: right around and I was able to make at home.

2367
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 2: But now I don't know what I'm gonna do with

2368
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 2: my ride because it's all jacked up.

2369
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 4: You should buy a new car, luke.

2370
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 2: That's what I told my wife do. But like with

2371
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 2: the supply chain issues and everything else, the price of

2372
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 2: cars is like out of this world, so I don't

2373
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 2: really know what we're gonna do so.

2374
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 4: Speaking of cars, I've I've been thinking about my old

2375
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 4: guy pivot. Let me let me set the stage, Luke.

2376
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 4: My dad's a motorcycle guy, owns a crap ton of them,

2377
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,679
Speaker 4: rebuilds them from from the you know, from the bones

2378
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 4: into whatever old school style he wants. As one award,

2379
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 4: has been featured in magazines. That's his life. Likes to

2380
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 4: get on the open road on the motorcycle. I get it, Luke.

2381
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 4: I'm a Sunday drive type of guy. Right windows down,

2382
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 4: sunroof open, some rock, jacked up. I was thinking about

2383
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 4: the other day. You know, I'm probably never gonna get

2384
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 4: on that motorcycle, to the chagrin of my father. It's

2385
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 4: just not my thing. But I wonder, despite the image

2386
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 4: of a piece of shit ponytail wearing divorced dad buying

2387
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,679
Speaker 4: a convertible to try to feel like he's still cool,

2388
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 4: I might be a convertible pivot guy in my late

2389
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 4: forties and fifties. Now A do you think I can

2390
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 4: pull it off? And I'm not talking about high price,

2391
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 4: because I'm cheap, you know me, Luke, I'm talking about

2392
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 4: like a you know, an economical convertible. Is this a

2393
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 4: good direction for me, given how much I love the

2394
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 4: open road, the scenic country drive, you know, driving too

2395
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 4: fast on the on the curvy roads with the music blasting.

2396
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 4: Could you see this being a will this enhanced my

2397
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 4: my mid life crisis at all?

2398
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 2: You will die, you will convertible. Okay, you may not

2399
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 2: die in the convertible, but I think it'd be sad.

2400
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: I think it'd be sad. I think buying a convertible

2401
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 2: in your mid forties is some sad shit.

2402
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 4: At least, like I hope they come with hair dye, Luke,

2403
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 4: because it all goes together right. It's like it's it's

2404
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 4: looking at at your lot in life at the moment

2405
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 4: and trying to do something aggressive to tell everybody that

2406
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 4: you're still got something left in the tank.

2407
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: Luke. No, it's just you trying to be do When

2408
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: people buy ship like that, it's them trying to cheer

2409
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 2: themselves up. That's what it is.

2410
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 4: You try what would be a cool because look, I'm

2411
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 4: not going like the BMW Ben's level. Look I can't

2412
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 4: afford it. I'm not that guy, Luke. I don't want

2413
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 4: like a Mazda Miata either, because that just says you're

2414
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 4: you know, that says things. What about like a Mini

2415
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 4: Cooper convertible lamb.

2416
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 2: Yet, fuck you ever driven a Mini Coop? No?

2417
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 4: I haven't.

2418
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 2: I haven't. I drove one one time, you know, because

2419
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 2: they have like a shared car service here in the city.

2420
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: So I was like, let me just go try one

2421
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 2: of these things. They got like a weird key entry

2422
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 2: and ship. It's not that fun. It's really it's really

2423
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 2: not that cool. Plusure you know, you're a tall guy.

2424
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 4: It's like it's I've always said it for you in

2425
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 4: affinity for small cars for some reason, you know, fast,

2426
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 4: small cars with a a little bit of balls, but

2427
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 4: like you know, great and snow, great gas mileage, still efficient,

2428
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 4: but you know a cool edge like my orange sugar crosscheck.

2429
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 2: Dude, your car, I mean, I gotta tell you, is

2430
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 2: the no fucking section.

2431
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 4: Oh get out of here, Get out of here.

2432
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 2: That car is. I mean, whatever cool is, your car

2433
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: is the opposite of that. It's the worst car on earth.

2434
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 2: I want to be very clear about that. I mean,

2435
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: it's fine as a way to like get from point

2436
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 2: A to point B, but like as it like what

2437
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 2: it says about you and shit, it says that you

2438
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 2: have absolutely packed it in and you really are just

2439
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 2: waiting for the sweet whisper of death in your ear.

2440
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 4: Okay, that's extreme, but that does sound like if that's

2441
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 4: my reality and I don't know it yet, a pivot

2442
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 4: to a convertible, I could do worse than that.

2443
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Seriously, what's a quite Like, what's a car that you

2444
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 2: and I could buy right where it would be considered.

2445
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be very clear about the way

2446
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 2: I word this. Reasonably cool, reasonably cool, but we weren't

2447
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 2: trying too hard, Like what's that what's that lane that

2448
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 2: we could get in?

2449
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 4: Definitely not an American sports car. That would be trying

2450
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 4: too hard, right, like a muscle car?

2451
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 2: You mean?

2452
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like if we went out and bought like a

2453
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 4: souped up.

2454
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 2: Like a Mustang Cobra or whatever.

2455
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be that'd be like, but like somebody who

2456
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 4: is cool can't pull that off, right, Like I assume

2457
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 4: Mike Piazza is driving around something like that.

2458
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, that guy can do that, right, he ain't

2459
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 2: that cool, but yeah, he's cooler than us. I feel like,

2460
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 2: what about this? What about like a range Rover? I mean,

2461
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 2: not be a little expensive, but like if we got one,

2462
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: would we be would we be tryhards if we got

2463
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: a range Rover?

2464
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that's a little bit try I mean

2465
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 4: you you seem like the type of guy giving your size,

2466
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 4: in the size of stature you you know, assume on

2467
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 4: yourself that I could see you pulling up in just

2468
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 4: a gas guzzler, just an absolute like.

2469
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 2: No, I want to get an electric car. I want

2470
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: to get an electric car. Okay, do you know who

2471
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 2: mk BHD is.

2472
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 4: At Morning Combat?

2473
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 2: Big? No? I don't.

2474
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 4: I don't They huge dongs, Yeah, the huge dogs.

2475
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No. He is a guy, mar Marque Marquez Brownlee.

2476
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 2: He's one of the most famous tech YouTubers out there.

2477
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 2: Like he's got you know, a ten plus million followers

2478
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck, just a gazillion. He's a little different

2479
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 2: than some of the other ones though, because they all

2480
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 2: do like the new Apple thing, the new iPhone review.

2481
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 2: He does those two. But now he's got a separate

2482
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: channel on like cars but like the future of cars,

2483
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:11,839
Speaker 2: like the like a lot of like the what Tesla

2484
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 2: is up to, and like so one thing he's been

2485
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: reviewing is he reviewed one of the new four trucks.

2486
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 2: That's I think it's called like the F one fifty

2487
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 2: lightning and so it's all electric f one fifty due.

2488
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 2: These things are unbelievable. There's like electrical sockets. You could

2489
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 2: power your fucking house literally from your car. And one

2490
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,839
Speaker 2: of the cool things is they now have what's called frunks.

2491
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 2: So because you don't have a a A, you no

2492
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 2: longer have a combustion engine. Basically you just have an

2493
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: electric car. They don't need all that space in the front,

2494
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 2: so you not only have the truck bed in the back,

2495
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 2: you're at the front of the car where you would

2496
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 2: or ordinarily pull the hood. It's just open right there

2497
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 2: and you can fill it up. Dude, you could make

2498
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 2: a I mean you could. You could have epic like

2499
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 2: you went to camping at all whatever. You could fill

2500
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 2: that motherfucker with everything you want, dead bodies, hookers, the

2501
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 2: whole nine yards. You could fill that thing with and

2502
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 2: take it all across town and it looks amazing, and

2503
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 2: it's got electrical plugins everywhere I want something, I can't.

2504
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 2: F one fifty on the streets of Washington, DC is

2505
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 2: a no go, Like there's gonna be no parking for

2506
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 2: you anywhere. But like that idea, that electric kind of idea,

2507
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 2: like the next wave of cars, that's what I want,

2508
01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,160
Speaker 2: And what about a Tesla? But Tesla's man, I don't know,

2509
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: they're kind of overrated.

2510
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jay Aaron kind of ruined the idea of a Tesla, right.

2511
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, A j Aaran's like I just go

2512
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 2: to bars, get drunk and then just plug in my

2513
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 2: address and then just fucking sleep in the front seat

2514
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 2: like a degenerate piece of.

2515
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if you should be sharing stuff like

2516
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 4: that publicly.

2517
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 2: But look, that's a rumor I heard. That's a rumor

2518
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 2: I heard.

2519
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 4: I don't you know. I'm not a car guy, and

2520
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 4: you could tell how lame my ambush by looking at me.

2521
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 4: But I've always believed my dream car is the is

2522
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 4: the catillog Sts, which they stopped making a decade ago,

2523
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:52,400
Speaker 4: that four door luxury sedan with that big engine. And

2524
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 4: you know, do you have one look that you're like,

2525
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 4: you know, if I get a little if this show

2526
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 4: starts taking off a little bit more, I mean, I

2527
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 4: get your eye idea of pivoting to electric and feeling

2528
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 4: like you're helping the environment while still looking cool, But

2529
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 4: do you still have that one? Like, damn if I

2530
02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 4: could get there.

2531
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I don't even want to pivot to

2532
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 2: electric to like help the environment. That's not really my

2533
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I don't

2534
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 2: really know.

2535
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 4: I thought you want to leave the earth a better

2536
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 4: place for Tuki, That's what I thought.

2537
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 2: I definitely do. But like my main motivation in getting

2538
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 2: one of those cars would be so okay. I mean,

2539
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've ever really talked about it.

2540
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 2: Maybe we have, Maybe it's been a while. I've only

2541
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 2: ever had shit cars. Now the one I have now

2542
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 2: is a perfectly fine car. In fact, the car I

2543
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: have now I bought. It was the first time I

2544
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 2: ever bought a new car. I'd only ever bought used

2545
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 2: cars previously, and I had some fucking beaters. The fact

2546
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 2: that I avoided virginity given the cars that I had, frankly,

2547
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 2: is a minor miracle, to be quite honest with you, dude,

2548
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 2: I had I've told you this before. The first car

2549
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 2: I ever had, my brother and I had to share,

2550
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 2: and the only reason I eventually inherited is because he

2551
02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 2: went off to college. He was two years ahead of me,

2552
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 2: so like when he was a senior, I was a sophomore.

2553
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 2: It was a Chevy Corsica that my dad bought for

2554
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 2: like I want to say, three and a half grand,

2555
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 2: maybe four grand. And this is a while ago. This

2556
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:10,840
Speaker 2: was like nineteen ninety six or something. But the only

2557
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 2: reason why we were able to get is because my

2558
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 2: dad went to one of these auctions where they take

2559
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 2: the cars from like drug dealers or people who commit

2560
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 2: crimes or whatever.

2561
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 4: By the way, that's such a your dad move. And

2562
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 4: I don't even know your dad, know that to your dad.

2563
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And my dad bit on this. This motherfucker had

2564
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 2: power nothing. Every window had to be rolled down manually,

2565
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 2: didn't even in nineteen ninety six, didn't even have a

2566
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 2: cassette player. Like it was either am ORFM radio or

2567
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 2: fuck your life, you know that kind of shit. And uh,

2568
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, just no frills, nothing, absolutely zero pizazz to

2569
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:45,080
Speaker 2: this fucking car. And then we gotten a point where

2570
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 2: my brother barreled into a car in front of us.

2571
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 2: And it wasn't a wreck in the sense we would

2572
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 2: damage the other guy's car, but he had like a

2573
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:53,720
Speaker 2: toe hitch on the back of the truck and it

2574
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,400
Speaker 2: it like took the front of the hood and they

2575
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:59,600
Speaker 2: pushed it up. So whenever we would go fast, you know,

2576
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 2: there's a lid on the hood you have to pull.

2577
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 2: You have to pop the hood and then you have

2578
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,080
Speaker 2: to pull the lid and then it goes up right,

2579
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 2: So the popping part was already done. The only thing

2580
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 2: that was holding it was just a clip on the lid.

2581
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 2: So when we would go fast, the hood would it

2582
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't obstruct the vision. It would it would it would rise,

2583
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 2: and everyone would be me, boy, dude, that's great, and

2584
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 2: everyone would be like, dude, why is your car a pirate?

2585
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 2: Because the little of the car was going like I

2586
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 2: like this the whole time, and shit like that. And

2587
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 2: then I go to college, I dude, that car. I

2588
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 2: told you, this is the one I had to emergency

2589
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 2: break one day and just left that bitch on the

2590
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: side of the road and had it towed. Never saw

2591
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 2: it again, followed it up with a car after I

2592
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 2: left New York City and came back to d C.

2593
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 2: With just an absolute piece of shit car that costs

2594
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:48,040
Speaker 2: me maybe five grand to buy. And every time I

2595
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,840
Speaker 2: would turn left, it would billow smoke into the air

2596
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 2: like a nineteenth century fucking oil bearing you know company,

2597
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 2: and an old lady down the street hit me once

2598
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 2: and I wasn't able to recover anything. Never had a

2599
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 2: car after that until I bought this one. I've never

2600
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 2: had like a like a ride, like a fucking This

2601
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 2: ride is sweet. You know, I've never had one of

2602
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 2: those fucking things.

2603
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 4: Man, I want I want one of those, you know, No,

2604
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,560
Speaker 4: every man deserves that at least once, Luke, And if

2605
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 4: I get the convertible, don't make fun of me. I

2606
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 4: wanted to close with this story. Look because I got

2607
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 4: an interview a fighter shortly. But I went to the

2608
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 4: skin doctor after Friday's MK.

2609
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 2: Episode, and they look at when they look at your skin, bro,

2610
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 2: they look at the backside of your ball bag.

2611
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,000
Speaker 4: Oh there I go once a year for that check up.

2612
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 4: We talked about that. I feel bad that it's like

2613
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 4: a young lady working and it's like, you know, they're like, no,

2614
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 4: we have to see it, sir, we have to see

2615
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 4: every issude.

2616
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you this, so I want my wife

2617
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 2: set me in real quickly. Hold on. My wife's like,

2618
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 2: you need go get your skin check because it's just

2619
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 2: what you got. No, no, no, sorry. I went to

2620
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 2: the dermatologists and I got some skin taxs. I gotta

2621
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 2: get removed. And she saw something on my ear. She's like,

2622
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 2: you should get that checked out, and so I wanted

2623
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 2: to go get a checked out and they were like

2624
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 2: sure enough, you know you're fine, this is okay, but

2625
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 2: like we need to do a full on body skin.

2626
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 2: So they're like, okay, get down to your underwear. I'm

2627
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 2: like a cool, noah, no worries. So like, you know,

2628
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 2: they're looking at my arms, like you know, raise your arms,

2629
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 2: look at your armpit and stuff. Dude, my man doing

2630
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 2: the thing just takes my underwear and then pulls it off.

2631
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,280
Speaker 2: Oh god, it starts and then starts. He didn't announce

2632
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 2: to me. He's like, Okay, now I'm gonna be pulling

2633
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 2: this up because I need to look. He just started.

2634
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 2: We just you know, like the like the bin of

2635
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:20,280
Speaker 2: vinyl CDs. He was just rifling through me to see

2636
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:21,640
Speaker 2: what he could fine, and I'm like, yo, what the

2637
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 2: fuck are you doing?

2638
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 4: Vinyl CDs first of all, but okay, sorry.

2639
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:27,480
Speaker 2: Vinyl CDs, but you know what I'm saying, Vinyl records,

2640
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 2: Vinyl records. He's just in the cret digging.

2641
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, I'm here. You want to prostay check. Yeah,

2642
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 4: So Luke, I had gone a year ago. I think

2643
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:36,280
Speaker 4: we talked about it. I was getting some you know,

2644
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 4: piece of shit old guy skin tags all over my

2645
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 4: under eye here, and I didn't want that to become

2646
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 4: a thing. Luke right, I had him on my neck.

2647
02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 4: I got them all burned or frozen and cut off,

2648
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 4: and it hurt like shit, and it costs like five

2649
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 4: hundred bucks.

2650
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 2: Is ridiculous, doesn't hurt at all.

2651
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 4: Okay, well, let's talk about this. So I had I

2652
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 4: ended up, let's get really gross. I ended up in

2653
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 4: each armpit having a bunch. Okay, So the lady works

2654
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 4: out to deal with me. She's like, I'll charge you

2655
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 4: for each armpit as a total totality. It'll be like

2656
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 4: two fifty total cosmetic in and out the door. I'm like,

2657
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 4: all right, I don't want to be that gross guy

2658
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 4: in the summertime. So look, I'm sitting like this in

2659
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 4: the chair. There's like four different females in there because

2660
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 4: there's like the assistant the college senior who's like doing

2661
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 4: you know, student teaching that's there and all that stuff.

2662
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 4: And dude, they got to put a needle. I had

2663
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:21,040
Speaker 4: like ten in each arm but they had to put

2664
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 4: a needle in every single one and then shave that

2665
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 4: thing off. I felt everything I was in. I remember

2666
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:30,840
Speaker 4: telling the doc, I'm like, this is the second most

2667
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 4: vulnerable I've ever been besides my vest ectomy, which I

2668
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 4: also felt everything. And Luke, I could see the look

2669
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 4: on their face in that moment, as if like, we

2670
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 4: don't usually have people squirm on this level, sir, and

2671
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 4: you're a forty four year old man. And I tried

2672
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 4: to cut it off and tell them, look, I know

2673
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 4: what you're thinking. I have the worst pain tolerance of

2674
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 4: anyone you've ever seen. Our viewers probably not surprised by that.

2675
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 4: But maybe it's the opposite. Maybe I have the most

2676
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 4: sensitive pain tolerance you've ever seen, because I not only

2677
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 4: felt that burning needle into the skin tag I'm feeling

2678
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 4: you cut it off. She's like, you're feeling it. You're

2679
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 4: not supposed to feel it. I go, yeah, that's what

2680
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 4: the best sectomy butcher said too. So Luke, maybe I'm

2681
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 4: actually the toughest guy, you know, because I just feel

2682
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 4: things more.

2683
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 2: It is possible. It is possible. Do people have different tolerances,

2684
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's because everyone is a weakling.

2685
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:22,120
Speaker 2: I think it's because some people just feel it a

2686
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 2: little bit differently. But I had one of my I

2687
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:27,200
Speaker 2: have more have to get off, but I got one removed.

2688
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 2: I got two removed and it only stings for like

2689
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 2: a second after that. It's no big no. By the way,

2690
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 2: if you can't tolerate that, a tattoo would absolutely blow

2691
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 2: your fucking mind.

2692
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 4: I think it would blow my mind. I don't know

2693
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen here. Sean Brady gonna beat ball, will

2694
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 4: have to find out.

2695
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 2: Dude, if he fucking let's end on this. If what

2696
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 2: are we going to do? Serious question? What are we

2697
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 2: going to do if Sean Brady beats Blomuhammed? Because I

2698
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 2: don't know what the odds are that is a you know,

2699
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's likely, but it's definitely in

2700
02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:57,160
Speaker 2: the realm of very possible, right, maybe even likely. And

2701
02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 2: if he does, we made a commitment now for me,

2702
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 2: Not that hard. I can figure it out, but a hey, showtime.

2703
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 4: Well, showtime, you're gonna have to pay for it, all right, you.

2704
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 2: Have to pay for the tattoo and everything else, But

2705
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 2: are you actually going for me? Not hard to go

2706
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 2: through with it? Right, here's who's actually going to go

2707
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 2: through with it.

2708
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:18,680
Speaker 4: Caesar's. Caesar's right now has Brady a minus one three

2709
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 4: five favorite, La Le a plus one one five underdags.

2710
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's that's very very close, very close.

2711
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:31,160
Speaker 4: I mean I said I would, didn't I.

2712
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can get a small tattoo, like you don't

2713
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,680
Speaker 2: have to get anything super crazy, Okay, okay, like you

2714
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 2: can get a tattoo that takes like thirty minutes or less.

2715
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:43,200
Speaker 4: You know, Jay, Aaron texting both of us now about Tesla's.

2716
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 2: But we're not.

2717
02:07:43,880 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 4: I mean, we're not going there, are we.

2718
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:47,840
Speaker 2: J I don't care about your life.

2719
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 4: He's got analysis about your issues on electric cars or

2720
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:51,880
Speaker 4: your interest in electric cars.

2721
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

2722
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,120
Speaker 4: All right, thank you Jay, thank you Luke. That's our

2723
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 4: show for today. I got to go off and interview

2724
02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 4: a rising Box.

2725
02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 2: So the belts have started. I've started, all right.

2726
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 4: We hand off to Big John, to uh Josh Thompson

2727
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 4: and whoever else is on the call this time around.

2728
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 4: Watch it now on Bellatour Showtime's YouTube channels, Pluto TV,

2729
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 4: and don't forget four pm Eastern later today, Bellatour two

2730
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 4: eighty five only on Showtime. Don't have showtime, Well how

2731
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 4: about you get your thirty days free starting right now.

2732
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,360
Speaker 4: Go to showtime dot com. Uh, that's how you do it.

2733
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,520
Speaker 4: Like us, subscribe to us, buy our merch at Morningcombat

2734
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,920
Speaker 4: dot Store. Thank you for a great another great week

2735
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:32,600
Speaker 4: of shows. Not a lot of big news this week, Luke,

2736
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 4: but we we left around and uh kind of made

2737
02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,960
Speaker 4: it work, kind of got a triple double this week. Yeah. Yeah,

2738
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 4: there you go. Enjoy the fights this weekend, whichever ones

2739
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 4: you are focusing on, Luke Thomas. You're gonna get out

2740
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:46,640
Speaker 4: and do anything fun?

2741
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 2: Do I ever?

2742
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 5: Not?

2743
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Speaker 4: Really not? Yeah, I mean we're talking about skin tags here.

2744
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Speaker 4: This is where we're at in life, Luke.

2745
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, two forty year old ur plus pieces of trash,

2746
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Speaker 2: that's what we There.

2747
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Speaker 4: You go, there, you go for Minisch for gaff Long Island, Luke.

2748
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Speaker 4: Here today, I don't know Mikey Morms is in Europe

2749
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Speaker 4: right now. Hopefully we see him again in our lifetime.

2750
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Speaker 4: Enjoy your life's people, take care of yourselves for the great,

2751
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Speaker 4: Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. May all your gains, even

2752
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Speaker 4: your side women, may they stay loyal. We out