WEBVTT - Draft Show: How Dak Deal's Impacts the Draft?

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<v Speaker 1>He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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<v Speaker 1>room for incenter news and drafted analysis from deep within

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<v Speaker 1>the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys like Ted Lamb and now your hosts. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>brought us David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, and Kyle Yeoman's. Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, It is March ninth, AKA what we have

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting for for quite some time around these parts

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<v Speaker 1>at the SWBC Mortgage Studios and the Star in Frisco,

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<v Speaker 1>and the deal has been done. Dak Prescott has been signed.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft shows. We

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the dominoes of the Dak deal one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty million dollars divvied up over four years, but regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done and we don't have to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>really past the next couple of days, thank goodness, into

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one and the rest of the off season.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you're with us here on the Draft show. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>brought us Bucky Brooks, David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice just knowing that, Hey, it's in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also, hey, you have your franchise quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, well, thank goodness not have to really look

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<v Speaker 1>into drafting a quarterback, especially early in this April's upcoming draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, It's like my prayers were answered, like

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<v Speaker 1>the degree to which I was unhappy this time last

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<v Speaker 1>week listening to Brian brought us in Bucky Brooks try

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<v Speaker 1>to outline the Cowboys future without a quarterback. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to it anymore. I made the analogy

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this morning, is like, it's like we can finally

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<v Speaker 1>press play on a movie that's been paused for like

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half, Like we can finally start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about building this roster for twenty twenty one and

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<v Speaker 1>for the next few years to come, because we know

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<v Speaker 1>it's all going to revolve around Dak Prescott. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to talk about whether they should draft

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback or trading packages and all that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We can just build the best team possible with the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. And holy cow, is that a relief? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any resentment from Bucky Brooks? Sir Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that, hey, there is a franchise quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>here and the money has been dished out because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you guys were trying to draft Mac Jones at

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<v Speaker 1>ten last week and that's not happening anymore. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Brian brought us and I we're just having a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion that you have to have in a wardroom. At

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<v Speaker 1>some point. You have to prepare for all scenarios. And

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<v Speaker 1>if Dak Prescott wasn't signed, or if he was planing

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<v Speaker 1>on print attack, for just from a due diligent standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about the quarterback and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that you have to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>with the deal coming in the way that it came in,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the under reported aspects of the

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<v Speaker 1>deal the cap space that was saved by putting him

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<v Speaker 1>on a deal because the Cowboys, unlike a lot of teams,

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<v Speaker 1>they're rich in cash and cash is king. And this

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<v Speaker 1>because they could fork over sixty six million and cash,

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<v Speaker 1>they now can reduce his cap down to twenty two million.

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<v Speaker 1>It enables them to go out and actually shop a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the free agent market, would help them

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<v Speaker 1>build a team. Yeah, I think this is Bucky's rioting.

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<v Speaker 1>It just took Bucky Night, you know, two hands to

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<v Speaker 1>shove Stephen Jones into getting this deal done, and no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting it. But the thing that the thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about it is that you start to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>deal was done basically in one day. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of build up and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just goes to show you if you have people

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<v Speaker 1>that are motivated to getting something done, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>it done in this league. And this is what the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys needed to have happened in order to get their

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<v Speaker 1>offseason going. They had to get their quarterback done, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one way or another, whether it was signed him, the tag,

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<v Speaker 1>play on that trade him. I mean, they had to

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<v Speaker 1>get something done. And if you look at it, the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing, the best scenario that could have happened for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys happened. So now you can focus on the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky's talking about cap space. You gotta probably have to

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<v Speaker 1>flip a couple of contracts to get some more space,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least you could play in this game now

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<v Speaker 1>and then now you can worry about the draft. You

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<v Speaker 1>can say, okay, at ten, do we need to take

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive player a defensive player? What direction do we want, Hey, coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think Now the Cowboys offseason can get

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<v Speaker 1>going for real and they could work on now fixing

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<v Speaker 1>this football team that last year was six and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>And you make a really good point because free agency

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have started without knowing what kind of piece of

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<v Speaker 1>the pie that Dak Prescott was ultimately going to take up.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't have started your draft prep without thinking, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we might have to take a quarterback at ten rather

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<v Speaker 1>than maybe one of these top corners like Patrick's zutan

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<v Speaker 1>or out of Alabama or Caleb Farley Virginia Tech. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then you have to go from there. Dad was

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<v Speaker 1>the starting point. He was that first domino to fall, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>But where do they go now? Because that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>question with this football team. There are a lot of spots,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about it kind of over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trap Show. But now that they can actually

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<v Speaker 1>start looking, what is the next step for this for

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<v Speaker 1>this front office to kind of find a rhythm and

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<v Speaker 1>find the guys that they need in order to build

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<v Speaker 1>around their quarterback. Yeah, they have to. They've already figured

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<v Speaker 1>out that the coaches that they had on their defensive

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<v Speaker 1>staff weren't good enough, you know they you know that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was number one, and you know, really shame

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<v Speaker 1>on Mike McCarthy, And again I suck, I'm hammered him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess I am. But you know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole year to put together a staff and you

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<v Speaker 1>end up firing three coaches off his staff, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're back to square one with the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's gonna be about Okay, what is Dan Quinn?

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<v Speaker 1>What have hid the traits to characteristics? What is he

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<v Speaker 1>looking for in his defense? You know? What is what

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Wit? What is he looking for in the secondary?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's going to happen with the defensive line?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean all these things. Now the scouts

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<v Speaker 1>have got to recalibrate in their mind, like, Okay, these

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<v Speaker 1>are guys that I looked at earlier in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this guy didn't fit. Oh wait, now this guy

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<v Speaker 1>does fit. There's a lot of that back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is going to be a really important offseason

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<v Speaker 1>for these defensive coaches to kind of to tell their

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<v Speaker 1>ideas or their vision of what they want in a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive player. You know, we talk about offensive players that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be okay, for the Cowboys, it's the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball that you need to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>start to worry about again. Coaches, players finding a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get those two things together because they can't have

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<v Speaker 1>what happened last year to them on defense. They again,

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<v Speaker 1>they just it was it was a mess how that

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<v Speaker 1>all shook out last year. You know, Brian, it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>that that you're talking about, like building around the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think championship teams have to have twelve blue chip

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<v Speaker 1>players and they need to be at certain positions. Quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a running back, wide receiver, three offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>two pass rushers, an off the ball playmaker, and then

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<v Speaker 1>two guys in the secondary. And so when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at this Cowboys team and you look at the way

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<v Speaker 1>their cap has been allocated, Prescott Cooper, Elliott, Tyron Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>d Law, Zach Martin. We have Jalen Smith who's making money,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if he's necessarily a blue chip

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<v Speaker 1>player based on how he plays on the field. Lell

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<v Speaker 1>Collins could be in that conversation at offensive tackle. The

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<v Speaker 1>issues that I see would be pass rusher, safety, and

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<v Speaker 1>either Trayvon Dix has their merged as an elite corner,

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<v Speaker 1>or they have to draft in the league corner. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about three marquee positions that need to be

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<v Speaker 1>feeled for this team to on paper it be considered

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<v Speaker 1>a team that can buy for a championship. And that's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what makes this whole thing exciting for me, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we finally get this dumb domino out of the way

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<v Speaker 1>and we can have these conversations. You know, now we

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<v Speaker 1>can begin you know, I always compare it to a roadmap.

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<v Speaker 1>You can start to look at that map and say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what are they going to do in free agency?

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<v Speaker 1>What type of free agents does dan Quinn want to acquire?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, are they going to go after a certain

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<v Speaker 1>type of defensive tackle? Do they maybe bring Gerald McCoy back,

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<v Speaker 1>or is there somebody else that they have in mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Is can dan Quinn convince this front office to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in a safety? And that you know, Brian said it

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<v Speaker 1>a minute ago. Obviously you never want to speak too definitively,

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<v Speaker 1>but offensive tackle is maybe the only offensive position that

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<v Speaker 1>I could see this team drafting with a super high pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Would y'all agree with that? Yes? I think less and

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<v Speaker 1>less though that they do what they did last year. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I mean, you can't. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say it as a blanket statement, but just in general, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so now we're talking, you know, and now that

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've got this Dak Prescott thing out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I can sit here and say, yeah, I bet,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet Caleb Farley or Patrick's Artan is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the pick at ten that helps you address your secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we can move down the line. You know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they feel about Jayalen Smith? Can they fix him?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they need to draft a linebacker highly? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>sign a safety and free agency? Or do they maybe

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<v Speaker 1>go after a Ritchie Grant or one of the guys?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know the answer to these questions,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can start diving into it a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more now that we've got some clarity. Well, Dave, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say this, like justin thinking about your draft strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think we're so like focused on the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best defense is a great offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're the Cowboys, I think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McArthur, you're looking at your team. It takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work to build a dead defense. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you would take as much work to make the

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<v Speaker 1>offense a dominant offense where you're thinking about putting thirty

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<v Speaker 1>points a game, and so if you build strength on strength,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I would go all in on trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find an elite offensive tackle at ten, because if I

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<v Speaker 1>have an elite offensive tackle on ten, I can leave

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<v Speaker 1>this offense alone theoretically for a year or two and

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<v Speaker 1>then put everything else onto the defense, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>give Dak forty two million plus a year, you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>we need to start the game with thirty on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>If we get thirty on the board, I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the defense to play at a top ten level. I

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<v Speaker 1>just need you to be middle of the pack pass rushers, interceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>those things. And so it just depends on if Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy and those guys can say, if we're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>complimentary football, the best way for us to play complimentary

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<v Speaker 1>football is let the offense go and then we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>play from ahead on defense, much like the Kenzie the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs have been able to do. And the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn is coming into the defense, you would hope

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<v Speaker 1>that he goes from a thirty second round defense or

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty first ranked defense and puts the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the pack. You don't need that top ten caliber. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Bucky and Dave, I think I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>leaned more toward what Bucky saying rather than what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said of since the Dack deal is done, you

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<v Speaker 1>could look at corner. I think since the Dack deal

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<v Speaker 1>is done, it puts more emphasis in trying to protect

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<v Speaker 1>him and protect the assets that you have on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just Dak. It's the money with Zeke, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the money with Cooper, it's the tight ends, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>it's the wide receiving corps that's been impressive, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course the offensive line that you've built in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't you think that the Dack deal might even

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<v Speaker 1>lead more so to being enticing to taking a tackle

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<v Speaker 1>or a guy like rashauns Later out of Northwestern up

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<v Speaker 1>at that tenth pick. I've done this long enough. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know you're not gonna get me to

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<v Speaker 1>say one hundred percent yes or one hundred percent no.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to weigh these things on a case by

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<v Speaker 1>case basis. What fun is that? I come on, stop it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. Heaven Opinion stop it. Neither one of you

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<v Speaker 1>have ever neither one of you would have ever predicted

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<v Speaker 1>that Ceedee Lamb would fall to seventeen. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to you gotta do this stuff. Case by case.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I am much higher. I'm much higher on

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrn Smith and Lyle Collins being okay this season than

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people are. And that doesn't I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying ignore the depth at the position. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I'm saying, Uh, you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>draft that guy in the second or the third ground

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<v Speaker 1>you knowing, Hey, fine, I mean if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it, I mean, if we're gonna do that,

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<v Speaker 1>we might roll Brennon night and tern sill out there

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<v Speaker 1>and see the thing. Oh stayed three agent, We're toss

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty pig and test position. Stop. That's shopping to

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<v Speaker 1>sales rereg like, go and get a guy if we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get what we're talking about an opportunity to take

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<v Speaker 1>one to the the top two. So you guys, you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me has been hurt every year? Every year is Gary

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<v Speaker 1>See like the first and the fifteenth you get a paychecks. True,

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to miss four or five games. At

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<v Speaker 1>some point, we gotta get a tackle. There's a big

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big difference between missing three games, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what he usually misses, and missing the entire season. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to tell me. You're trying to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>if I can get one of those corners at ten

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<v Speaker 1>and then draft and Alex Leatherwood at forty four, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's not good enough. It's a it's a bigger difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Cowboys are the only team in the league

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<v Speaker 1>that has to have a first rounder at every position

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line. We're like, they're like the only

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<v Speaker 1>team where you can let's trying. Why is that? Don't skip?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't don't skip because you shouldn't need a blue chip

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<v Speaker 1>player at every position on the offensive line to have

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<v Speaker 1>a good offense. That just I think it works out days.

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<v Speaker 1>You could say the same too. You can say the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. So you can appreciate your block form upfront

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<v Speaker 1>this year, that'd be nice for him. He'd appreciate yet

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<v Speaker 1>that y'all are y'all are insane? Hey, if they draft,

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<v Speaker 1>if they draft for Sean Slater or Penay Sewel, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't I will not dislike that pick. But the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that they absolutely have to is ridiculous. So here here,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the difference. Like, here's what you do in the comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about cluster busters in the like. What

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do is what is the separation between

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<v Speaker 1>Certien Caleb Farley and the next tier of corners versus

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<v Speaker 1>what is the separation between the offensive tackles Penay Seul

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<v Speaker 1>Rashawn Slater and the second tier of offensive tackles. Typically

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bigger drop off and offensive tackles. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you can find a corner anywhere, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can find a corner anywhere. We're celebrating dray Bon Dix.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a second round pick, you know. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying it is not as it's not as if

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<v Speaker 1>any of these corners in the draft, or Dion Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>or Jalen Ramsay or anything like that. So if it's close,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the big guy, because you can find

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you can put out there and play

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<v Speaker 1>at corner. I think that's a really simplified idea of

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<v Speaker 1>how hard it is to find good corners play in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. I mean, I know Richard Sherman was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth round pick. But like, how many top tier

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<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks fall out of the first thirty or forty picks

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft? Okay, so let me so so so

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<v Speaker 1>let me teach you this. Would you want Damon Arnette

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<v Speaker 1>to play corner here's a first round pick? Oh? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't. We all think that was really weird,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Raiders do. We have Raider stuff every year.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know he's a first round pick, like first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks that we're talking about. C. J. Harris wrote that,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't want to say just just guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, I think that position, that position

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<v Speaker 1>is much easier to find in a premiere offensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>I would invest in the bigs more so than the locals. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you questions in real quick here, because you

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<v Speaker 1>do find work with Daniel Jeremiah old you know, old scout,

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<v Speaker 1>old guy. You know. He thought is that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge drop off between the top corners and the next

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<v Speaker 1>tier of corners. And I mean he was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this on Peter King's podcast thing. He was saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, offensive tackles all look good, which to your

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<v Speaker 1>point is right. But he's saying, if you don't draft

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<v Speaker 1>a corner early, you're not going to get a good corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you disagree with him on that? Yeah? I disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I disagree because I think corner ability a

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<v Speaker 1>lot is predicated on scheme. I think if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a very clear view of how you want to play,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that the separating factors are so vast

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't find a guy. So if we can

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<v Speaker 1>project how this team is going to play based on

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in Atlanta, the corners that you need

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<v Speaker 1>are one of two. They need to be long, they

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<v Speaker 1>need to be ranging, and they can be man to

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<v Speaker 1>man guys or they can be his own guys because

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<v Speaker 1>they could build a lot. It just depends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Greg Newsom from Northwestern being guy like

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<v Speaker 1>whether he's in the first round or whatever. But think

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<v Speaker 1>about the amount of name that we have listed at

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<v Speaker 1>corner that we talked about ast Samuel, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the Colman kid from George, I mean the guys I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like so to me, it's easier to find those

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<v Speaker 1>athletes to figure out how to play versus the big guys,

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of it is predicated on who's your

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<v Speaker 1>secondary coach. Do you have a secondary coach that is

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<v Speaker 1>an X and o's guy, or he's a teacher. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Witt is a teacher developer type, and so if you

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<v Speaker 1>can have someone that you can bring it, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can play with one of those younger guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just curious, though Beside's curious because you know, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the utmost respect for the work you guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the most respect for everybody that sits down

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<v Speaker 1>and watches his tape and has an opinion on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I thought it was interesting because I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to agree with you, Bucky on I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>reach for a corner. But I'll tell you what I

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<v Speaker 1>feel better about corners in that second and third round

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<v Speaker 1>then I do than offensive tackles in the second or

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<v Speaker 1>third round. So if you were if you told me

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<v Speaker 1>I have to address I have to address the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle position because of what I think is going You

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<v Speaker 1>know what could happen with Tyrn Smith. You know Lyle

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<v Speaker 1>Collins the hip and all that. I understand what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going with right there. I mean that that is a

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<v Speaker 1>hard position to find, but I do think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with Daniel either. I think that this thing could

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<v Speaker 1>stretch a little bit better at corner. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>did mean me personally, I'd love taking Pits. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is a weapon. You want to start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about putting pressure on it. That's where I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's putting pressure on people. That is putting some serious

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on people. And even Daniel yesterday on a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying, hey, give me the guy you think

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<v Speaker 1>could be a Hall of Fame player in ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>He did, Pits would start thinking, oh, okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>go maybe he's stupid like me. Then you know that

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<v Speaker 1>he likes this guy. But I'm just saying though that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that to me, the corner position stretches a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better than what the tackle position. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to. I don't want to reach for a

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't if you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about those early corners. If you don't, then the

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<v Speaker 1>safe pick is to go with the offensive lineman. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me say something that's really gonna piss y'all off the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my turn to, it's my turn to, it's my

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<v Speaker 1>turn this. Wow, you don't wanna you like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to draft for need, right, but just think about

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<v Speaker 1>what this team is positioned to handle. Okay, you got

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrn Smith and Lyle Cole. Yeah they're healthy, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy if that doesn't happen. Uh, You've got Zach Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>who proved he can do that if he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>at a decent level. You've also got these two deve

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<v Speaker 1>elemental guys who weren't amazing, Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, you feel good they're on your team and

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<v Speaker 1>they can come in and compete and continue to develop

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<v Speaker 1>as players. And then maybe you add a draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>to that that seems like a decent amount of help

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<v Speaker 1>at the offensive tackle position. Whereas right now, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what they do in free agency, but we know they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to spend a ton of money. So you

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<v Speaker 1>got Treyvon Diggs, you got Anthony Brown, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>got a whole lot of not inspiring stuff between young players.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Maurice Kennedy's coming back, but he's a

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<v Speaker 1>he's a career special teams guy. Like you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that you can count on to handle their job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not wrong, and I'm saying, though, to me, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the cabist, and I hate riding the fence on this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know I do. I do. I understand what

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky's saying about your investment at quarterback, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to need the quarterback too to make some plays when

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<v Speaker 1>it's not perfect, you know, when everything up. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to be able to say, if I could

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<v Speaker 1>take the best cornerback in this draft, if I could

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<v Speaker 1>get the best one, yeah, I mean, I'm all for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I I do. I like, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>could go wrong with either spot. I really don't. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a coward answer. It's all right, absolutely right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. It is a coward answer. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a completely coward answer. But to me, if to me,

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<v Speaker 1>if you told me I could get Farley, yes I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you tell me I gotta get Sir Tan,

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<v Speaker 1>who I have Horn over? I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm maybe I'm the one guy in this whole

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<v Speaker 1>world that likes Horn other than his mom. And I

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<v Speaker 1>like Horn a lot. I think he needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>in that top three conversation as well. Bron I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think the three of them are closely

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<v Speaker 1>lumped together. I think, what has happened. We have blown

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<v Speaker 1>up Caleb Farley to mythical proportions. Like I know he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play last year like, but I feel like and

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<v Speaker 1>if we go back and we really look at how

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<v Speaker 1>he played, Look, he's a solid player. I know people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the speed or whatever on tape. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>had questions about his ability to recover and play down

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<v Speaker 1>the field. Also, when you go back and you think

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<v Speaker 1>about Virginia Tech corners and how they're deployed. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's a boundary corner, but he's a bigger guy who

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<v Speaker 1>prefers to play off and so he makes some plays.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like he is a ball magnet with

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of interceptions that is making play after play

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:30.640
<v Speaker 1>after play after play. When I think about Okay, JC Horn,

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<v Speaker 1>passer ten and Caleb far they have them in one lump.

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<v Speaker 1>When I look at Elijah Molden, I think I can

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<v Speaker 1>make a case for Elijah Malden's then not only be

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<v Speaker 1>the best knuckle, but that's a starting position in today's game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about Melifonu, who is long and range, you

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<v Speaker 1>who appears to fit what the new norm at corner

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<v Speaker 1>would be Tyson Campbell, Eric Stokes. Like, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of guys that we're going to be sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>because here's what happened in the draft. We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all these names and we're gonna be looking in the

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<v Speaker 1>second round and there's gonna be a clump of players

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<v Speaker 1>that are really good players and we'll be like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, we mocked him to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. Everybody can't go on the first round. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be some athletes and available in the second round. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, and you mentioned we talked about Newsom. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the two. I think the two organ kids

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<v Speaker 1>can play, you know. I mean, yeah, there's there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a listen. That's where again, I don't agree

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with Daniel Jeremiah about the fall off because I think

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:27.400
<v Speaker 1>those guys are all kind of right there with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So my point is, if you told me we had

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<v Speaker 1>to take a tackle and it's like it came down

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to a tackle or certan I'm going to tackle, I'm sorry.

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with the tackle right there, because I'll say,

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'll take my chances of the quality

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 1>in the second round at forty four with one of

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>those guys that I like just as much. That's what

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody think of. Brian's on the offensive tackle train. He's

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive tackle train. Bro. I just know. I mean, hey,

0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 1>this guy, this kid is gonna have to play guard. Yes, you,

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have to play guard. He's gonna play guard.

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, g guess who plays left guard? Elijah Vera Tucker. Yeah,

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is absolutely right about that. Yeah, I mean

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>to me, I am saying no, no, but if you,

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.120
<v Speaker 1>if you told me, I could get one of those

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>top tackles and move Slater inside for a year or

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever to figure things out by by all means, but

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I could said, given if it's and maybe maybe I'm

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>guilty of the whore love and the Farley love. I'll

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>admit that I'm looking. Look, I like him. I'm not

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>disparaging Farley look, boundary, zone, skills, instincts, awareness. I wrote

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>down into about of my nose Seattle Atlanta system, which

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>is how the Cowboys want to play. The one thing

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I wrote down questions about speed. Is he a true

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 1>number one corner? That that was my big thing. I

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like the toolbox and all that other stuff. I just wondered,

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>is he a top ten dog at one? Because they

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 1>did you put this? Did you put the same note

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 1>for Certain? Did you say what? What was your same

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>note about Certain? Because if you didn't say that, then

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>now I'm really questioned in you, which I didn't say that.

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>If I didn't say, I'm just curious, Like I'm just curious,

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>what did you what did you think Certain can run? No?

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I think I had the same thing. My question with

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.959
<v Speaker 1>all Alabama corners are how fast are they? I think

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>they did a great job of playing within the system.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>They understand exactly how to do it. But I had

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>questions about Diggs last year in terms of his long speed.

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's fair, That's fair. I think for whatever reason,

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I think they end up having i Q guys on

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the perimeter more so than the explosive athletes. I think

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State might put a greater premium on the dynamic

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>athletes to play outside. So all I know is I've

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.719
<v Speaker 1>never seen so many people just trying to complete And

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>it pains me to say this about it Alabama. I

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>don't like Alabama, but like so many people just want

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>to dis credit a guy for holding down half the

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>field at the best program in America for three years.

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm if, I'm absolutely fine with that. I don't

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>think anybody's just crediting him at all. I Oh, everybody's

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 1>looking for a reason why actually that good? Like if

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't. And I like Caleb, I like Farley a lot,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and I even I like jac Horne as well. But like,

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's a classic case of like people

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>get tired of talking about the same guy. They're like, oh,

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>do we have to talk about Patrick Curtan again, because

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.959
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else to talk about. I mean, I'm just

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I think people go out of their way to poke

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>holes in his game. Yeah, I think I have curtain

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>over Farley because I think Sir Tan plays the game. Obviously,

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>some of this is his dad's influence in seeing how

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>his dad has played. I think he has a natural

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>knack to being able to read and understand routes and

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>the way that he plays. I think he plays like

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a prom. I think there's a I think there's a

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>separation though, between jac Horn. I think jac Horn may

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>be the most dynamic of them all in terms of

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the fism, but I also think that he's probably the

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>most undisciplined of them all too. I think there's a

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>wider various in his boom bus plays compared to what

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the other guys may bring on a down by down basis.

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think that's want you want, you want. Yeah,

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just looking for the safe guy, then, Bucky, is

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 1>that what you're telling me? You're just like, you know,

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>getting a hit. So I'm a base I'm a basis.

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm a baseball player hard, and I know you can

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>win a lot of games hitting doubles. You hit singles

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and doubles, you can win a lot of games. You

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have to doubles. What on earth? What on earth

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is wrong with a safe pick? Like, there's nothing wrong,

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing saying no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>not saying that. Like Certan is almost boring to watch

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>play because he's good, that's my good player. People are

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>just bored. They're like, oh, I'm tired of talking about

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>this really good corner from Alabama. Let's let's do something

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>crazy instead. I don't. He won't tell you, buck, he

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>won't tell you about his speed because he's got to

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>miss this number one guy. That's why one No, no no, no,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>but I got that even But but I said the

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>same thing about Caleb Farley, spe like you don't how

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>are you necessarily Farley? But what are you gonna do

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>with Caleb Farley if he runs four three? And I

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get into this, by the way, are we

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna get influenced by what guys run when we start

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>getting these real times from pro days? Our opinions going

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to Well, I had Sirtan up here and it happened

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Mississippi State kid last year watching that tape

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that yeah, we're watching that kid play that. All of

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>a sudden he ran four to five eight. Well, I

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>guess we got to drop him down a couple of rounds, now,

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>don't we. No? I mean I will be greatly influenced

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>because I would say this. I would expect him to

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>run fast. He hasn't done anything but trained four years.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would expect him to be at his best.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>He's trained for three hundred and sixty five days to

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>run a forty. If he can't clock a track time now,

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>he'll never be able to clock it. But if you

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch him on tape, and let's just say,

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is the acc of Vontik Conference is when it comes

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to producing high end wide receivers like Elside of Clemson,

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Like who, what are we really talking about? Like, yeah,

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. My god, my game and North Carolina.

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying when we match up and we

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>watch him, we're watching him versus guys that are Okay,

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>where Sir Tam would be challenged by more pro players

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>on tape than what Kill Farley has challenged on a week,

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>week by week basis. That kind of that ties into

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>my point for sure. I mean, you know, if you

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>watch enough Pats or Tan like he gets beat by guys.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Of course he does, but it's weird to me that

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>we ding Patrick Certan for going against the Jamar Chases

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of the world, you know, whereas Yeah, i mean, you

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>know Farley has an easier time. I think that's fair

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to say. Yeah, I mean, Clemson's put out a hell

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of good NFL receivers, but not very

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>many other schools. Yeah, that conference for North Carolina is

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy. I mean, I'm just saying, there's not many

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>guys in the conference. There's not many guys. Not many guys.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait for US Ancy State, there there's nothing Georgia Tech, Like,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>who are we really guarding? I'm conservatively, Brian, I think

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you can go out of there in the corner with

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the eight or nine yard cushion and you probably can

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 1>hold it down to hold people to a fifth rate.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>It's not that hard in the acc Yeah, I'm just saying.

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, hey, Bucky, I was cooking crawfish

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the other day to la about blew my background. Man,

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to set you up against some some Division

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>one receivers. Yeah, the A SEC. It's not. It's not

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Irvin and uh Calvin Johnson out there anymore.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's it's it's not that kind of competition.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Respect for that at no respect at all that at

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>well kid from Louisville that can run, I mean, and

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>so I have respect. I have respect for him and Patrick.

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, there you go.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I thought you learned better about the

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you and the little guy fascination. No no, no, no,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>don't little little dude, little dude run around the little

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>guy the little guy thing. I'm coming around, because what's

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>happening is every time I killed the little guy, he

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>ends up making the Pro Bowl or something like that.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just Fucky pro bowler, eyes Bucky, open

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>your eyes. Man. This is a little game. This is

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a different game, and what we learned it is a

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>different breed because what was the different in draft terms?

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Yea and draft Watch that Watch that kid it Purdue.

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Watch that kid Purdue come in this league and blow everybody.

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>If more, if run no more. Yeah, I'm just telling you, man,

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>there's somebody about it. The way this game's going, there's something. Okay,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>so I know Kyle's probably dying to go to break,

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but like the conversation, does it I'll be quick. Does

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it remind you of twenties? Can you? Well, yeah, you

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>keep cutting me off, jackass. Does this remind you of

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Does this remind you of twenty seventeen at all? In

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the sense that you know the Cowboys had that strategy

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>where you know, the first round was long on pass rushers.

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Obviously we know they got the pick wrong, but they

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>let the cornerback position stretch into Day two and they

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>got Jordan Lewis and Cheetoh. I mean, is that what

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to tell me that you know, you get

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the more talent rich guy in the top ten and

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you can still find some cornerbacks later. Because I don't

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, at the end of the day,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you got to you gotta pick the right players now,

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean like yeah, I mean, I mean like that

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>disparaged the people who picked Taco Chard, But I never

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like he was a guy like that, and I

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>would be worried of Michigan guy in the room. They

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>felt the same way too, Bucky. Yeah, yeah, like I don't,

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think like and I would be worried of

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy who's coming out now, Quitty Pey, Like I'm

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not supposed to scout the helmet, but let's

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest. The guys that have come out of there, Chase, Winnipitch, Rashid,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Gary Um, Taco then we talked about pretty much bad

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Hutchinson might not be bad. Yeah, but they don't they

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>don't get the quarterback down. Yeah, So yeah, I don't know.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>They remind me of Penn State corners. So I'm just

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>curious about how many cornerbacks you would feel good about

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>drafting at say, let's say forty four, Like, you know,

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>whether that's you know. I've brought up Tyson Campbell a lot.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you'll take that's why we've taken off at you

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>tackle it and I'm saying so, but you what I'm

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>asking is like you feel good about that depth of position,

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know that I do, like I feel

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel much better about corners stad for everybody else.

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to speak for everybody else. I feel.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm i'm i'm I'm fine with that. I am fine

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with the corner. I'm parked out there because worst case,

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>what you do is you park Anthony Brown out dud.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>You bring in a guy who can play nickel. I

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>think you can. You can run it back. I think

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it's easier to find those guys that we can move

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>inside and kind of play around and do all that

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>other stuff. I would prefer to have the Cowboys going

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>thirty to thirty five points a game and the other

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>team is forced to throw and we're playing soft zone

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and making them kick field goals like I want to

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>dominate on offense. I also don't think if you took

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.919
<v Speaker 1>a corner early, he took them at ten. I don't

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>think it's out of the question that you also take

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>one in the second or the third round either because

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 1>of the depth of position. I think they double dip

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>at corner any fact, And if you're gonna do that,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>then you might as well have a premium player at

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a different position that you've already invested in, like offensive tackle. Hey, Cal,

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you did that, because if we were in

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the draft room and I saw Dave Hellman over there pouting,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>what I would do as I say, here's what we do.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>We'll take corners in the second, third, and the seventh

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>round to appease you, to make sure that we get

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the corner, to make sure that you feel good about that.

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to take the offensive tackle. So I

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>feel great, and I'm gonna let you have Christmas the

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>rest of the draft you want. I'm not pouting. If

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they drafted a shots later. I think that's a perfectly

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>good thing. I think that's a great I think y'all

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>are just y'all are just drafting scared. Y'all are just

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>drafting scared, that's all I feel like. I feel like

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you're drafting scared. I feel like it's the first If

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna just take the kneel and take the player.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Take take the better player, y'all. And also, I'm not

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>scared watching Terrence Knight play tackle last year. Terry Terrence

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>how many? How many guys? Yeah, that's good because they

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>both played. Yeah, just the one missmash. So here's something

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to look at, Dave, Like, we have to build it

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to win a division. They're more pass rushers in this

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>division than wide receivers. That's so they're more pet We

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta deal with Chase Young and what the Washington football

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>team has. You still got to deal with the Eagles

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and Brandon Graham and those guys. The Giants are good

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>up front. None of those teams outside of Terry Lauren,

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 1>who's the other scary receiver that's not on the Cowboys,

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>there isn't one. Like if you're just saying, we have

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to win a division to get into the playoffs, the

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>strategy makes gonna be a good player. He might, he

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>might be. Still what I'm saying right now, you're not

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>You're not saying, oh my gosh, how are we going

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to and watch how are we going to defend Jalen Rayger, Like,

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not that the only guy in the division outside

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of who's on the Cowboys would be Terry mc lauren, Well,

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 1>but what we gotta watch guys now is and Bucky

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that narrative works now, but watch what happens. I can

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>go by now and watch the giants and watch them

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>all start. Yeah, you're right right now. That's a great narrative.

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Major boy taking the break. Yeah, I think that's probably

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>a good idea. Of twenty minutes. We're gonna be We're

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0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that we've talked about on this show for the previous

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeomen's alongside Bucky Brooks. Brian brought us David Hellman

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam in the back. Where it's time now for

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<v Speaker 1>some Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twenty. There

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<v Speaker 1>it is as always Chris Beam doing work, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is Twitter on the twenty even though it's ten forty.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're still going to get these questions in regardless

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>on this show because there's some really good ones and

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them that we need to get to.

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 1>We need to just start answering a lot of these

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter just to get these across. Okay, starting off

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>with let's go with Ernie and he sounds, actually, no,

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what we just talked about and talking

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>about offensive tackle. Okay, let's go with Jeff. He says,

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>now that Reggie Robinson has been moved back to corner

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>which is what the report was last week out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Star, Does that mean that cornerback is not as

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>much of a need in the draft or do they

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>not have to double down. We just talked about doubling

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>down at corner. I still think it's a huge possibility,

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>but Brian, because of Reggie Robinson maybe being back at

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>that spot, and you think it takes a little bit

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of the pressure off, well at least gives him another body,

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and we all kind of we all evaluated

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Robinson as a long range corner out of Tulsa,

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and so, yeah, it's unfortunately he came into training camp

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 1>last year. I remember watching practices and thinking, this poor

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>kid's lost. You know, he doesn't look like he really

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>knows what he needs to do where he needs to

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>be played. Some games at the end of the year

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>on special teams actually showed up pretty well. So I

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>think the move back to corner will be more natural

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>for him, and Bucky will explain to you that, hey,

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys like those types of players long range Robinson

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>will probably be a pretty good fit. As we talked

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>about for forty minutes there, cornerback is still something you

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>have to address. Yeah, I don't think you know what

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a position because of Reggie Robinson. If he develops and

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>becomes a guy that can become a contributor. Great, but

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you still have to draft with getting a

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>starter in mind. And so I think he throws it,

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>he gets into the mix, he competes, but I think

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you still have to put more ammunition into position. Yeah,

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am, I AM excited at the thought

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>that there that they would move him back. I was

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of disappointed they tried to move him to safety

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, but he still played. He played

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>one defensive snap last year, and I mean, if if

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>he develops, that's awesome. It just makes you that much better.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I say this all the time, like

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the top one hundred is where you're getting guys that

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>are going to start and make plays for you. Every

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>everything else is just gravy. It's similar, very similar to Bradley,

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and I like, am I am I excited for what

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 1>he might be able to do in year two. Absolutely

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>do I feel like I'm set at defensive end because

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I found Bradley and I in the fifth round, no chance.

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So Reggie Robinson was at one twenty three year when

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>he was taken out of Tulsa, So he's outside of

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that top one hundred. But not by a lot, and

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I still think he has enough to come up and

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>play significant snaps at the position, especially whenever you're as

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>thin as they are there. But like you said, in

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>terms of saying that we don't need to look at

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that position as much, I don't know if Freddie Robinson's

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>really kind of a swinging factor there. This is a

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>good question from Patrick Drew and this is from all

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the way in Melbourne, Australia, across the world from where

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>we are, so I love that international listeners shout out

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 1>to you, but Twitter on the twenty question. Assuming the

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys go corner at ten and David Hellman gets his way,

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:40.919
<v Speaker 1>realistic options for tackle and linebacker at forty four, who

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>are some of the names that we would potentially be

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about there, mister Hellman? Oh well, I I think

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I brought him up in the first segment. I'm like,

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm I love the idea of finding Alex Leatherwood at

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>forty four. Y'all tell me if you think that's realistic.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Brian also was talking about Notre Dame guy Leah. Yeah,

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>those are a couple names, and then there was one more.

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh um, actually a guy that I feel like we

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't really said his name a lot. But what about

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Sam Cosmi out of Texas as well? Which is why?

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 1>So I mean there are guys and again it's important

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to note you're picking in the top ten of every round.

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So is it a guarantee that that those guys will

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>fall to you know? But I feel good that there

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 1>would be a talented option there, particularly at pick forty four.

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about letting it stretch all the way

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to the third round, but maybe pick forty four. But yeah,

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about linebacker m A. Chasti Rot from North Carolina

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>would be in the mix. I think Jabiro Cox from

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>LSU would be in the mix because I think they

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>need one of those kind of linebackers. I think speed

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>is at a premium. I think the linebacker composition will

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>look a little bit different than it had been in

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>recent years. I think you will see guys that are

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>a little smaller but a lot faster, because that's a

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>big part of how this defense gets down. Yeah, and

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I hope I don't butcher this kid's name.

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Another kid the Cameron mcgroan from Michigan. The linebacker. I

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys have looked at him at all.

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But that's a six one, two hundred thirty five pound

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>guy played with a busted hand part of the season.

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>But if you watch his tape Minnesota, Indiana, this is

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>an active guy that can really really run. Not a

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>lot went well for Michigan last year, but he was

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the I thought one of their better defensive players.

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Number forty four for the Wolverines, but downhill player can

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>really run, kind of work his way through trash. There's

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>some linebackers that, like I say that the guys were

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 1>saying smaller guys that can run. I think that's what

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the pre wreck was going to be for this defense.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Well I got real quick, Kyle. Sorry. But another guy

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that I always forget about. What do y'all think about

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Tevin Jenkins out of Oklahoma State? Oh? Yeah, see, I've

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>seen people I know, Yeah, I've known some people have

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>seen him. I didn't want to mention it because I've

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>got him personally in the second round myself, but I

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.240
<v Speaker 1>know people have talked about him potentially as a first

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>round guy, and so I don't know if he gets

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to you at forty four, but I kind of had

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I kind of had him and the notre Dame Kid

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>in that mix right there together. Leatherwood was in that

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>mix two of my second round offensive tackles. Those are

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 1>the guys I hope that could stretch to you at

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>forty four if you're going that route. I like Baron

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Browning too. If we're gonna talk linebacker, I say I

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like him a lot. And he's a Texas born player

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>played down the street and at Kennadale High School here

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>in Fort Worth. I've seen him the last couple of years,

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, you talk about a player that plays hetty,

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that's that's smart. He's in the right spot and then

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>he finishes through tackles. That's a guy that I really

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>liked on film ultimately of being able to show out

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and really kind of ended up being really the captain

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of that Ohio State defense last year that made a

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>run to the National Championship Game and had U some

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 1>even though it was a short season. He had highlights

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:03.720
<v Speaker 1>into to impress me there. Uh, next question from John

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Nelson out of he's also across the pond, he's in

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom. No, Yeah, that's our guy. Yeah. Nello's fantastic.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I love love him. On Twitter, he says is there

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>any position outside of corner that you would double dip

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>in in this draft ran quarterback. No, I'm just no,

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a it's an interesting I wonder if

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you would double dip at safety, you know, I wonder

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>if you would find a way to say, okay, go

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>grab you a free and then go grab you somebody

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that could be as strong, and then use those two

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>guys maybe if you because on a rotation of four,

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you think it like you know, Donovan Wilson, Okay, do

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>they go sign a veteran guy, Get a veteran I

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>mean a legitimate veteran guy, not a guy that's just

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, we get into camp and then they cut

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>him after the third practice, like a legitimate player, And

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>then would you maybe look at because to me, I

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's some really fascinating players at that safety spot,

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>especially at the strong and the free, where you could

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of interchange or use both of them to be

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 1>part of the four. So I keep an eye on

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the on the safety spot for sure. You know, Brian,

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's interesting because you would like to have

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 1>flexibility in the back end where you could sometimes player

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 1>a traditional nickel or what they call a big nickel

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>where you have three safeties on the field, and that

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>third nickel is almost kind of like that quasi linebacker

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the Florida State kid hams A Nasa Radee. He would

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>be interesting me, Naza Redeine. He would be interesting as

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the Canoe Neil type player to drop down in the

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>box too, like you can drive Downovan Wilson. Maybe he

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>has enough pop and thump to be able to be that,

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>but maybe you want another bigger guy that can come

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>down and be the low guy here with this stuff.

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>A guy you're talking about there too is Sherwood from

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>from Auburn is another one of those guys, big guy,

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>physical player. You see him you watch the Georgia game

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. He's playing down they got him playing in coverage,

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.839
<v Speaker 1>they got him doing some of that stuff. Another kid

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I liked a lot too is and I don't know

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>if you guys do Gillespie from from Missouri is a guy.

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's a guy could kind of see as

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you watch that Alabama game and he is flying downhill

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and are hurry hitting people, knock at people playing in

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 1>coverage and stuff like that. If you're gonna double at

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a spot though, man, maybe there's maybe you could kind

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of fix this thing with a couple of the picks

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.359
<v Speaker 1>at the right at the right spot the interest. Another

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>guy we never talked about it would be the Cisco

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>kid from Syracuse. You just never talked about him. His

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 1>name should be in the conversation because he's another safety

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and that day two rains that could come in and

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>help immediately. He's he's got a lot of the tools

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that you would want in a starting safety, but he

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>gives up so many big plays on film and he

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.760
<v Speaker 1>gets beat a lot, and I think he'll fall because

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of that. So if you wanted to take a flyer

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>on a guy in the third round, then he's there.

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>If he makes it to the third round, that might

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>be still too low for him. But if he makes

0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it to the third and he's there at seventy five,

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm out of the I don't think

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he would be out of the running as my favorite

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>bit in the third round if he's there because of

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 1>the physical tools that he has. Now, speaking of physical tools,

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I've got a question specifically for our guy, Brian brot

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Us And this comes from NICKI the Twitch on Twitter,

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and he says, for my guy, Brian. Yeah, the official

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>inductee to the Kiris Tonga Fan Club. I want his

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>scouting report on the BYU interior defensive lineman. He called

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>him a SpongeBob loving giant. But I don't know enough

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>about this guy yet to really get into him. But

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about Tonga? Have you guys? Have

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys seen Tonga at all? I have? Have you

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 1>seen Tonga? I have not. I saw you talking about

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 1>him this morning. That was the first time. Yeah, he's

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 1>he I'll tell you what, this is a fun draft

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>for these centers, these guys that play right over the

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>center's nose. And you know this guy, I mean he

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is a three hundred and twenty six pound guy and

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you watch him play. He's got some really good speed.

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>He's got excellent quickness. And I'll tell you what, he

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is super active when it comes to chasing the ball

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and working to the outside. I mean he's a difficult

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>player to deal with one on one. And I was

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.919
<v Speaker 1>watching the Coastal Carolina game and I mean they've got

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>him like playing twist game stuff. They've got him jumping

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>around and gaps and then getting back inside. And you know,

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.439
<v Speaker 1>when you're three hundred and twenty six pounds and you're

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>bouncing around the line like that and people aren't moving you,

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 1>but you're getting in the backfield. He's a finisher when

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 1>he gets around the quarterback. He's one of those guys

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>that were a big, heavy guy. He wasn't coming off

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the field. I mean he was playing snap after snap

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>after snap. You watch Shelvin and guys like that, they suck.

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, LSU's got a lot of players. I

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>get it by you, they've got talented players. But Tonga

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.319
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on him? Is that one technique guy.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I really do like this one technique class. Of what

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>we've seen so far in this draft, there's a couple

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of guys that stand out. I mean, along with Tonga,

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you gotta Lee McNeil that we've talked about out of

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>n Z State previously. I mean, there are some one

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>guy that are gonna find their way into the early

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>parts of this draft and maybe I mean, if the

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys wanted to talk about it, how about the mc

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>neil kid. I got a chance to see him. Now,

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>how about the McNeil kid. I got a chance to

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>see him work out last week because he worked out

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>out here how about he started a left field in

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>high school and on the baseball team. I'm like, how crazy?

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 1>How crazy is that to think about your one technique. Oh,

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>by the way, let's go out and played outfield. But

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what he did. Yeah, it played outfield. How about that.

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's go I like that first base. We can zone dog,

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>we can zone dog a little bit. Yeah, that's that's

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>not data Ortiz over there, that's that's left field. You're

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>running after baseball's there, You're you're getting into the gap,

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>playing down the line. What was that, Brian, No, I'd

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>tell you what though, I think Bucky and you guys

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>are right about the kid. I mean, I talked about

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>him last week as a pet cat guy. You see

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability. You see athletic ability the day and age

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>of just the big sloppy guy playing this at one

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>technique or undertackle. Yeah, there's some big sloppy guys, but

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>they're better athletes than than what we've kind of seen

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in the past. I'm I'm encouraged if the Cowboys have

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to go get one of these guys. I think there's

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>three or four of those choices that you can make.

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Though again, it's got to be a change in philosophy.

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>The previous regime was all about, oh no, we like

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 1>orphans and we don't want to draft guys, and dada,

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>da dada and all that stuff. I hope this regime says, no,

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 1>let's use a draft pick on a good player, and

0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>there's some in this draft that you can go get.

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like the potential that it ends

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.480
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0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.399
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<v Speaker 1>to round things out on what has been really a

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<v Speaker 1>of you guys and all of those listening as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But coach K on Twitter asked, can I get Michael

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Gallup traded to the Patriots because they can extend him

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<v Speaker 1>for Stefan Gilmore in a late pick, so that way

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<v Speaker 1>you could potentially grab one of these top three wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers pick number ten. Are you interested in doing such

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, David Hellman, You know, okay, is it possible?

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<v Speaker 1>That's another question I'm gonna is it? Well, is it possible? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose it's possible. I don't know. Honestly, I don't

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.480
<v Speaker 1>know the details of Gilmour's deal off the top of

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 1>my head, but I know he's one of the better

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:22.360
<v Speaker 1>paid cornerbacks in the league, so I mean, I assume

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that would be difficult to fit in under the cap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Gallup thing is really interesting because, yeah,

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's fun to talk about ways you could maximize that,

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, trade him for something while he's still worth

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it before he goes into this contract year. But I

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.799
<v Speaker 1>also kind of feel like, you know, in this day

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and age, people are trying to solve problems before they exist.

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is, you know, everybody's like, well,

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Gallop's gonna leave next year, so we gotta do something.

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like you can tap the brakes, like a lot

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 1>of things can happen. The Cowboys frontloaded a Marii Cooper's

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 1>deal they're done. They're done with guarantees for a Mari

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>next office. So they could conceivably get rid of a

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Maori and keep Michael Gallup if they wanted to. They

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 1>could extend him, they could franchise him. Or it's not

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the end of the world. If Michael Gallup walks in

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>free agency and you get a nice cop pick out

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, like that is not the worst outcome in

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the world. So I kind of feel like people overreact

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that they're probably gonna lose Gallop, like

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and I get it. It's fun to be proactive and

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>try to think ahead of time. There's nothing wrong with that,

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But I also don't think that's like this terrible problem

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that you have to solve right now. To answer the

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>question a little bit more directly, if the Patriots were

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>willing to do that, and I could fit Gilmour in

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>under the cap he's only seven he's only seven million dollars,

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you just have to do an extension because he's gonna

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 1>want more money. He only million. It says his cabinet

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 1>is fifteen. On what I'm looking at, it says the

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>cabinet is fifteen. Because it was a backloaded deal and

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he's in the final year of his five year contract. Yeah,

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 1>looking looking at sports X so they did a deal

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>with a put some money up to pay him last

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>year to get him to thirteen million. But on the books,

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>his base salary is that the cap hit for the

0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Patriots is fifteen but in terms of salary to spend

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>out it's only seven million. But when you take him in,

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>he's not going to show up unless you redo to do. Yeah,

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and so you also have to wander thirty one years

0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>old for someone who wasn't he was never an a

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>level athlete. How much does he have left? Are you

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>going to get the back end of the performers from

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<v Speaker 1>Gilmore if you take that on. Yeah, and yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>cap hit makes me leary. I'm still probably leaned toward

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<v Speaker 1>I at least I don't hate the idea. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you'd rather have a younger player at that position,

0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 1>but you've also kind of wanted a veteran at that

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<v Speaker 1>position as well, and buy a veteran somebody who can

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<v Speaker 1>actually play well and still be a veteran at that spot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it kind of it goes back, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing about you know, quarterback, Like what makes

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<v Speaker 1>what makes a quarterback valuable as a draft pick is

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<v Speaker 1>like the contract, Like you have cost control, so it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you know, would you rather have a twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>year old that you have cost control over for five

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<v Speaker 1>years or a thirty one year old who you have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay just to get him to show up in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp? Yeah. The more I think about this, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'd rather just hold on to Michael Gallop. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I mean, there are worse things that

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<v Speaker 1>can happen than getting a comp pick for Michael Gallop. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what happens, that's fine with me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the more you talked about it, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you talked me into it, Brian really quickly before

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<v Speaker 1>we end out you would you do that deal or

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<v Speaker 1>would you kind of reconsider and keep Michael Gallop around? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would probably keep Michael Gallop around. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I do. I would look for other opportunities,

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you could maybe you could take him

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and when your draft picks and then move up in

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the draft, maybe you could go a little bit further.

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<v Speaker 1>I would use him as a bargaining chip instead of

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<v Speaker 1>getting a thirty one year old corner. Maybe you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go up higher in the draft. Maybe you want

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get back into the second round, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom of the first round, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>convince somebody to take your forty four and Michael Gallop

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<v Speaker 1>and then let you get back into the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the first round if you find a player to your

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<v Speaker 1>liking there. So I would kind of keep that option open.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would too. I would lean toward keeping

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallop, even though, like Dave said, kind of to

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<v Speaker 1>start off the conversation, I'm not against talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a bad idea to keep your

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<v Speaker 1>options open. But if you and this is an intriguing option,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least. Now, if they threw in maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a second round picked or something, maybe I would do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. That might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>too high and too constantly from the Patriots perspective to

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<v Speaker 1>get that deal done. But that's gonna do it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I go for it, Dave, Sorry, Kyle, No, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a conversation worth having. I'm not opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea, but you don't have to look for

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse just to get rid of Michael Gallop just

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<v Speaker 1>because you think you can't afford him next year. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let those problems play out. That's a good problem to have.

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<v Speaker 1>So if somebody wants to come get him, that's great,

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<v Speaker 1>but make it worth my while, Like, don't just deal

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<v Speaker 1>him because you're afraid of having to pay him next year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dumb. It's a good point. It's a good point.

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