Speaker 1: Look Mayer, Oh, I see you, my own Bowen. Look
Speaker 1: over there is that culture.
Speaker 2: Yes, goodness, lost.
Speaker 1: Culture ding dong, lost culturistas calling.
Speaker 2: Why the pregnant pause? Oh wait, hold on for podcast
Speaker 2: or visual medium, Matt and I synergistic again.
Speaker 1: It kind of keeps happening. So I come in today
Speaker 1: and I think there's no way that Bowen is gonna
Speaker 1: wear a pop culture icon on his shirt today, like
Speaker 1: I am, because I'm kind of giving my icon Mariyah.
Speaker 1: And you walk in clad in Bruce.
Speaker 2: Lee, you know, lad in it and I have. I
Speaker 2: have my thing with Bruce Lee, which is just someone
Speaker 2: who looms large. But I don't like I'm finally gonna
Speaker 2: come out as like a Bruce Lee stan. I like
Speaker 2: it's only in my bedroom, literally, like you know that,
Speaker 2: Like I have that Italian poster of this is.
Speaker 1: A queer narrative.
Speaker 2: This is a queer narrative.
Speaker 1: It just existed in your bedroom as a child, and
Speaker 1: now it's roaring to life in public.
Speaker 2: Well, all these politicians out here saying keep that in
Speaker 2: the bedroom to.
Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, and you finally defied them here, I am
Speaker 1: look at this. I love this cut and color on
Speaker 1: you similar to the cut and color on our guests.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of primary action happening in here.
Speaker 1: This is the day I meet my pen pal. Ah,
Speaker 1: this is like when you meet like your pen and
Speaker 1: pal from when you were young, but just adult version.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like when you have like because
Speaker 1: you know when you were little, did they ever give
Speaker 1: you a pen pal from like a far away school?
Speaker 1: Do you have your program ever do this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to say once or twice. But so
Speaker 2: when I moved from Canada, all the kids wrote little postcards.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet. And then I think the first
Speaker 2: week we moved to Colorado, I was like, Dad, where
Speaker 2: are the postcards? He was like, I can't find them?
Speaker 1: And I thought got it?
Speaker 2: Never ready, of course, still still thinking about it all
Speaker 2: these years later.
Speaker 1: You could cry now if you feel like there's still
Speaker 1: some left in the tank. Our guest would support it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I haven't hydrated enough today. Well I think, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: are you wanted some.
Speaker 1: Of our guest Arctic vibe, which is in a cop
Speaker 1: and looks sick like poison?
Speaker 2: This is what this is why, this is why Celsius
Speaker 2: doesn't come in a clear container. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's really get into it what we came here to
Speaker 1: talk about today, which is what Celsius looks like in
Speaker 1: a clear container. Certainly not the excellent third album. It's
Speaker 1: it's a step forward.
Speaker 2: It's the third album down.
Speaker 1: Which was tough to do because we were already pretty forward.
Speaker 1: I went to that concert. Bodies were hitting the ground,
Speaker 1: Bodies were hitting the ground. People were getting so overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: Bodies were hitting the ground.
Speaker 2: Well, we were saying, these girls were like forming a circle,
Speaker 2: clutching each other.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. Girls grabbed hands and
Speaker 1: created like a ringutiful and it didn't matter who else
Speaker 1: was there. It was their floor.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, nothing in the circle, No,
Speaker 2: just their energy. Well that that's that's a lot of floor.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of area.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to get in it, you could have
Speaker 1: crawled under them. It just didn't feel right. It was
Speaker 1: their floor.
Speaker 2: You, I think you have something to say about that
Speaker 2: you should address, like just just just taking up the air. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's let's put our guest. And she's incredible in every way.
Speaker 2: Everyone welcome.
Speaker 3: Sip of Arctic of Arctic piss. This is the treat
Speaker 3: of my life to be here. And also I don't
Speaker 3: want to speak. I just want to like sit this.
Speaker 3: It feels you know, there's like fever dream moments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh I have to speak.
Speaker 1: You have to how about this? You name the episode? Yeah,
Speaker 1: no matter, I must have to find about.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, whatever you say, it's your house.
Speaker 1: Will say it. And only if you confirm it.
Speaker 2: Can it be great?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like you're going to be the vibe
Speaker 1: of saying the rules of culture with us today.
Speaker 2: I want you to.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I do it. I do it when
Speaker 3: I'm on the train in my headphones. Like you'll say
Speaker 3: something and I will predict, and sometimes I'm surprised when
Speaker 3: you don't make something confirmed.
Speaker 1: Breeder, I guess finalist, finalist, Well, of course finalists.
Speaker 3: Cheers, cheer. Let me expose just how piss like this is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely wait, I want to I want to bring something
Speaker 2: up right off the bat. I was at Jake Shane's house.
Speaker 3: Oh is it the bag?
Speaker 2: It was not the bag. I saw the books that
Speaker 2: you gifted him. Yes, and I squealed, and I go,
Speaker 2: of course, Gracie fucking reads Eve bab bit and you.
Speaker 3: Know what, kaya and I Yes, I had a Library
Speaker 3: Science conversation about Eve Babbitts and Joe Didion, And it
Speaker 3: was one of my like, it was one of those
Speaker 3: moments where you're just relieved when people read. But and
Speaker 3: I was, and I was relieved to gift Jake books.
Speaker 2: Yes, what was the relief?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, he will He's the he's the He
Speaker 3: was the first to say it. He was like, do
Speaker 3: you read? I was like, I do, do you?
Speaker 2: He was like crazy, yeah, And then.
Speaker 3: He was like, I will read. I told him. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to send you a like the
Speaker 3: just the beginning of your library, and I wrote him
Speaker 3: and then he was like, I will read. I was
Speaker 3: like the title, I will.
Speaker 2: Read, the the book cover, the blurbs. I said, no,
Speaker 2: you should actually read these, like like these are incredible
Speaker 2: first like starter package.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you approved of them.
Speaker 2: Oh yes. And I was like, Jake, you would actually
Speaker 2: fucking love you babbits because she's talking about.
Speaker 3: She's just talking about the culture. She's talking about the
Speaker 3: culture and the babbits.
Speaker 1: She's just talking about the culture. It's real culture, number
Speaker 1: two babbits. She's just talking about the culture. Then you're
Speaker 1: dancing in.
Speaker 3: He's really good. It's so nice. It's so nice in
Speaker 3: this room. Thank you with all of you.
Speaker 1: Well, our best friend Jared is here and he never
Speaker 1: comes and sits in, but he is one of.
Speaker 3: Your great fact.
Speaker 1: Jared, we were there at your concert where the girls
Speaker 1: were were ringing ringing around there. Do you see this
Speaker 1: from the stage?
Speaker 3: And actually we were just talking about this like ten
Speaker 3: minutes ago, about the concept. Like someone's like, oh, is
Speaker 3: there a marsh And I was like, well, there is.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I don't know if I would use that
Speaker 3: that word. I would.
Speaker 1: It's a saush, it's a soft mash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it is. You make a good point,
Speaker 3: like what's happening to that floor space because they stay wide,
Speaker 3: which I also I'm like, everybody take their space and
Speaker 3: it is theirs to it is theirs to. They they
Speaker 3: chose to be on the floor, it's their floor.
Speaker 2: You know what our phones out, our phones out phones.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm I'm pro put them, I'm your pro
Speaker 3: put them down, But well, I actually I live on.
Speaker 3: I think I'm pro soak up the experience. You went
Speaker 3: out of your way to be here. It's like you
Speaker 3: paid money to be here. If you want to record
Speaker 3: every single second of it. I advocate for that to you.
Speaker 3: I'm not antiphone. I'm pro presence.
Speaker 2: So there's this book that's coming out called The Story
Speaker 2: of Your Life. I have not read it, but I'm
Speaker 2: seeing like people who are getting galleys like talk about
Speaker 2: how this is this author that writes about how social
Speaker 2: media is whatever about defining all our lives, but specifically
Speaker 2: when it comes to pulling out your phone at a concert,
Speaker 2: this is why we do it. Are you ready? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's because you're so overwhelmed with emotion and in the
Speaker 2: modern the modern condition is such that you don't know
Speaker 2: how to process and sit with the emotion then, other
Speaker 2: than to take out your phone and record something, because
Speaker 2: I don't watch that stuff back. No, you never do.
Speaker 1: And also the experience of other people watching it is
Speaker 1: never going to be as good. I think it's a
Speaker 1: thing of like you are anticipating a moment so much
Speaker 1: you think the number one thing to do is capturing,
Speaker 1: when what you really should do. What happens to me
Speaker 1: is I know this to be true, So I'll have
Speaker 1: my phone out and I'll just capture like a boring
Speaker 1: part of any song so that I see the part
Speaker 1: that's worth capturing or whatever.
Speaker 3: Pulling my phone out is the curse for what I'm like,
Speaker 3: my goal is immediately gone. Like there's no there's no
Speaker 3: success rate, absolutely low success rate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because at a concert you can't play the song again,
Speaker 1: and that's real culture number three. At a concert, you
Speaker 1: can't play the song.
Speaker 3: Again unless you're Audrey Hobert and you do see me
Speaker 3: twice she does, she does and you know what she does,
Speaker 3: which actually, maybe this isn't mine for me. Well, it's
Speaker 3: the best show. Have you guys seen her live yet?
Speaker 2: We did a show in l A for Katie Crutchfield
Speaker 2: and Darcy Cardon and.
Speaker 4: Now oh yeah, and you guys, I saw you guys
Speaker 4: singing together together and that was Again it's one of
Speaker 4: those things it's like, well, I can't rank why, like
Speaker 4: in order, what's the best thing about Audrey's like.
Speaker 3: Rise, Yes, selfishly, I think it's that I get to
Speaker 3: see more of my friends like on the internet doing things.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when we're not in the same place, like
Speaker 3: I got to just open Instagram and you two are
Speaker 3: singing together on stage. That is what I would like
Speaker 3: that in my fantasy, I'd be like, in my simulation,
Speaker 3: I'd be like Bowen and Audrey are now on stage together.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I feel like it is this is we are living
Speaker 2: in your simulation.
Speaker 3: Well today we are because I get to watch to
Speaker 3: you do your job and you get to watch me
Speaker 3: drink piss.
Speaker 1: You know what's what probably rocks most about the Audrey situation.
Speaker 2: And I think the Audry situation situation title of that well.
Speaker 1: I was going to say stay wide, but I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be rude to have one in the room
Speaker 1: crass title crass idea for a title stay wid Why anyway?
Speaker 1: Moving on, I feel like it's that thing of when
Speaker 1: you just you think that someone around you is really
Speaker 1: special and then the world starts to confirm it. Well,
Speaker 1: we're like, oh whoa, whoa, whoa, Like these these things
Speaker 1: that I got to experience, everyone's getting that same feeling,
Speaker 1: and that's that's fun.
Speaker 3: It's just it's like the It's I grew up with
Speaker 3: her voice in my head all the time every day
Speaker 3: for sixteen years, and I'm just I just now others
Speaker 3: get to have that, So I'm just like, we're all better.
Speaker 2: Off jealous, You're jealous.
Speaker 3: I'm guys, I have a it's the best. Also, Also,
Speaker 3: I mean, and I never want to move on from
Speaker 3: this topic, but to see, I'm just so excited because
Speaker 3: she's she's doing festivals this summer, like can you imagine
Speaker 3: being at Lala And then like, can you imagine like
Speaker 3: being at Lala and if you for some reason don't
Speaker 3: know who she is yet? And then you hear like
Speaker 3: and you're like, I'm gonna chase.
Speaker 1: That audience that's there is going to be giving. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a Chapel moment.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say I think so, because when
Speaker 2: Suey first came out and the video came out, I
Speaker 2: was like, like, I I feel like Matt. Matt was
Speaker 2: on Chapel from the jump.
Speaker 3: I remember it. I remember.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say this on pod, but I felt
Speaker 2: too shy because I feel like I'm not as prescient
Speaker 2: as you. But I was like, I think this Audrey
Speaker 2: Hobert girl is.
Speaker 1: Like no, you were always right about that.
Speaker 3: Also, but you've all, in my experience, you've always been supporting, Like.
Speaker 2: I support the Core for sure, for sure, but I'm
Speaker 2: also like I'm not I'm not gonna be as like
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3: You're not being declarative.
Speaker 2: I don't want to stick his.
Speaker 1: Neck out because what if something horrible, God forbid, like
Speaker 1: a flop, like a flop single.
Speaker 2: No, there's no chance with that chance with sixteen years.
Speaker 2: But then the process been the same when you guys
Speaker 2: have been writing together where it's like wine nights or
Speaker 2: is it it's changed over time.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like we just lived together. Well well well
Speaker 3: well well well we we just were we were roommates, yes,
Speaker 3: and then we just started writing songs together, which is
Speaker 3: like such a weird all of a sudden one day
Speaker 3: because I imagine with the two of you, what you
Speaker 3: make together, it was probably not like a.
Speaker 1: Born out of friendship instead of like we have to
Speaker 1: create Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: There's no like sit down conversation. It's just like there's
Speaker 3: a guitar and both of us are there and we're
Speaker 3: already like we just started laughing while we were strumming,
Speaker 3: and then it made it. It made it. That was
Speaker 3: like the bar for us of what we chose to
Speaker 3: keep in like lyrics that either felt so correct or
Speaker 3: made us laugh the hardest.
Speaker 1: You said that about that so true too. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys were cracking up by the end of it.
Speaker 3: Yes, and we have a song on this album as
Speaker 3: well that that we wrote I think the same week
Speaker 3: that we did that's so true, which like also made
Speaker 3: us giggle in that sense, you know.
Speaker 1: On this album Mini Bar Mini Bar is fab.
Speaker 3: It's like zippy. Yeah, well, she's just it's like there's
Speaker 3: that there's that I feel like the shorthand of your
Speaker 3: best friend, and and it's just so yeah, yes, well
Speaker 3: you don't I wish she was here.
Speaker 1: No, it is that thing where it's like you don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to translate, and then it very much does.
Speaker 1: It's what I always wish that things are more specific
Speaker 1: and less broad. I mean, but we should say specifically.
Speaker 1: You guys are wearing the same goddamn shoe today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have an amazing point.
Speaker 2: I don't know if my arch is non existent.
Speaker 3: I think, what do you mean non existent? Like you're
Speaker 3: just flat?
Speaker 1: You're currently I'm flat.
Speaker 3: I'm flat?
Speaker 2: Really you wait, we're just gonna step on I don't think.
Speaker 3: So, honey, are you gonna steal on it right now?
Speaker 2: I feel like sounds like you have some foot in security.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no sounds like no no, no no,
Speaker 5: because of what I said, because we can't.
Speaker 3: Oh because my ankles. Ankles about my ankles, I just
Speaker 3: sometimes but but yeah, let's make it personal. It's my ankles.
Speaker 3: I actually I would love to talk about feet.
Speaker 2: I have a couple.
Speaker 3: I have a few questions. Over New Year's we were all.
Speaker 2: Well, we were all there there for New Years.
Speaker 3: Over New Year's we were all talking about Wiki feet,
Speaker 3: that's the thing. And I had never explored that platform. Yes,
Speaker 3: and many of our friends have explored it, which I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, totally like I anyway, news to me, Okay,
Speaker 3: there is there's there's ratings, and there are comments. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I have in my mind wide feet. I've just
Speaker 3: noticed this. Okay everyone look.
Speaker 2: Literally no, no.
Speaker 3: This part bone to.
Speaker 1: Bone, well, every honey, everyone's foot there.
Speaker 3: I know it's the widest part of the foot in theory.
Speaker 3: But I've always felt this, and so I'm for the
Speaker 3: first time in my life over New Years this past
Speaker 3: year on Wiki feet with everyone, and I come across
Speaker 3: a comment about my own that this this man wasn't
Speaker 3: writing from a place of like any fetish or like
Speaker 3: there was no sexual angle. It was as if he
Speaker 3: was a doctor, going like, I fear she might have
Speaker 3: like a bunion in her future.
Speaker 2: You don't have a bunyan girl in your future. In
Speaker 2: my future, we don't know psychic and you wish she
Speaker 2: had had more of a sexual fetish. She sort of
Speaker 2: angle to it. No, No, I.
Speaker 3: Definitely I wasn't like damn it, but I was a no.
Speaker 3: But I was then curious, like and so and so,
Speaker 3: having already noticed when I put on heels that are
Speaker 3: like meant for like a lady, sometimes my foot feels
Speaker 3: too wide to go in section. So anyway, basically, no,
Speaker 3: I'm like, is he right? And then like and that,
Speaker 3: I wonder like, is there something preventive that I could
Speaker 3: be doing.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm onto something.
Speaker 3: Okay, you are.
Speaker 2: You are spiraling with this man's voice in your.
Speaker 3: Head about everything feet, about.
Speaker 2: Everything feet and everything.
Speaker 1: You so much you just you just locked it in
Speaker 1: the title of that is everything feet.
Speaker 3: That guy's gonna love it.
Speaker 2: Of course, I will say, I feel like I have
Speaker 2: some of the most beautiful feet in the history of man.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask you to show him, but
Speaker 3: I will find you on WOOKI feet? Have you looked
Speaker 3: up your score?
Speaker 1: I've looked on it. I'm one of those frees.
Speaker 3: One of our friends, she was so proud about being
Speaker 3: the highest ranking member in the group that like.
Speaker 1: You're too proud.
Speaker 2: You said, you're too proud, And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, but I would also probably react that way if
Speaker 3: there weren't doctors in my in my forum.
Speaker 2: Sure, but I think the way I feel about my
Speaker 2: feet is I need I need to apply this. I
Speaker 2: need to I need to be written large in terms
Speaker 2: of my whole life, where I'm like, oh, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what other people think because my rating on wiki
Speaker 2: feed is in the gutter what And I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't care. This is actually dead wrong.
Speaker 3: When people review your album like it fucking sucks, but
Speaker 3: it's like I had a fun.
Speaker 2: Making it exactly.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, you know, it's a part of your soul.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like my feet are they're they're treating
Speaker 1: if Wicked Feet is Pitchfork, they're treating my feet like
Speaker 1: it's like it's an apple because like, I have a
Speaker 1: very high rating, and I have to tell you, I
Speaker 1: would not describe my feet as Fiona apple coated. I
Speaker 1: think my feet are.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Everyone who sees my feet are just like, put those away?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Hold on, My friend Dave calls them the steaks. Jared appy,
Speaker 1: what do you think you hate them? They're bad, They're
Speaker 1: not good.
Speaker 2: Why describe I'm going to be very vulnerable?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well finally I'm was like talking about like.
Speaker 1: You're like a few years ago. A few years ago,
Speaker 1: I made the fatal, the fatal mistake of yes, showering
Speaker 1: at the Hollywood Equinox with no shoes on.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is actually a part of my later really please.
Speaker 1: As a result, I got athlete's foot, and it really
Speaker 1: wasn't good there for a little while, and to the
Speaker 1: point where like it had to be, like I had to,
Speaker 1: I had to start a relationship.
Speaker 3: With Jared is shaking his head.
Speaker 1: You can't believe I'm this candid on the pod?
Speaker 3: Was it visually a thing?
Speaker 1: Just let's just say I was surprised to see my
Speaker 1: wicked feet rating so high. Jesus, last last as long
Speaker 1: as you let it.
Speaker 3: Is it a topical situation.
Speaker 1: Likeream it is, it's very treatable, very curable. It's on
Speaker 1: this foot, it's on where is it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, it was.
Speaker 1: It was on both feet. That's how fungus works. Here's
Speaker 1: here's the thing about feet.
Speaker 3: Though I love topical creed.
Speaker 2: I love topical Do they work?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's always like results in better over times, like.
Speaker 1: Results in time, results in time. You will see results
Speaker 1: in time.
Speaker 3: Ess.
Speaker 1: Actually, with the culture number nine, you will see results
Speaker 1: in time.
Speaker 2: Did you just have a breakup?
Speaker 3: Honey?
Speaker 1: Time, honey, You're gonna love time?
Speaker 2: Honey, baby, oh baby, time.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 1: The description is time.
Speaker 2: I think if someone were to, if you were to,
Speaker 2: if Jared were to describe why Matt's theater bad qualitatively,
Speaker 2: you would And I thought they were flowing away from it.
Speaker 2: Why they're bad. I think this should be the topic
Speaker 2: of the whole episode. Feed everything.
Speaker 3: I know because I listen.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the only other time we did that
Speaker 1: was when Iowa Deputy was on a few years ago
Speaker 1: and we talked only about Omerosaile was when she came
Speaker 1: out and said everyone will bow down to the most
Speaker 1: powerful man in the universe. And we always start the
Speaker 1: episode with the dingdong, except that episode, we started with
Speaker 1: that voiceover and the three of us just screamed about
Speaker 1: Amosa for the whole app.
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Speaker 2: Are you hitting up theater while you're in?
Speaker 1: You're not?
Speaker 3: I am not. I wish I was here any longer.
Speaker 2: Than speaking of writing, Yes, what are you? I want
Speaker 2: to know what y'all you two are writing about? Because
Speaker 2: you're such beautiful pals.
Speaker 3: We check in and catch We check in kind of
Speaker 3: like I check in with you more than money that
Speaker 3: I've known intimately for.
Speaker 1: Viewers, well, because I feel I do, and I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say this, I do feel connected to you.
Speaker 3: Very It's very like this is not our first life together.
Speaker 2: I really.
Speaker 1: I was like, they were like, Okay, well, Gracie's ready
Speaker 1: to come in, and I was like, I'm not meeting
Speaker 1: her on the camera walking in there because I saw
Speaker 1: you guys do a TikTok together at us.
Speaker 3: Immediately dropped to my knees. I'm like sorry to everyone
Speaker 3: else in the room. Well, I found out that you
Speaker 3: liked our show when warm Anyway.
Speaker 1: I found that you liked our show when you saw
Speaker 1: Hannah Einbinder on it and she cried delicious at the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I wish I were capable of accessing like tears.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: I mean I could go there, I could go there.
Speaker 1: What about your upcoming potentially, well, you have to cry
Speaker 1: in your upcoming film debut?
Speaker 3: Oh shit, oh shit, I'm going to just drink nothing.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think so what can I say? Well, well,
Speaker 3: have you seen Helena's previous.
Speaker 1: We're fans of Helen's.
Speaker 3: She's she would be incredible on this podcast because she
Speaker 3: is just the most Have you met her.
Speaker 1: No, but I've heard that she is a very vivid character.
Speaker 3: A hundred Yeah, she's really She's a really an amazing person.
Speaker 3: And I just whenever she speaks about anything, I'm like,
Speaker 3: give her the mic.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for you to get on camera in
Speaker 1: anacting way. I do feel you are a superstar.
Speaker 3: Well, that's generous and you got it. Well, I will
Speaker 3: take that from you because it's Helena. To me, Helena,
Speaker 3: it's Helena. It's Elena. She is she is. When I
Speaker 3: when I read the script that she wrote, I was like,
Speaker 3: what the And she sent it to me just being like,
Speaker 3: would you ever want to read it? And I was like,
Speaker 3: not thinking she was asking me to read it in
Speaker 3: the sense of like motive, but I just loved her.
Speaker 3: We got breakfast three years ago once because a friend
Speaker 3: connected us, and it was similarly to I was like,
Speaker 3: I have known you, I've known you before, and and
Speaker 3: then and then the next time he communicated was when
Speaker 3: she sent me the script.
Speaker 1: How are you with milk? There's a lot of milk
Speaker 1: on her sets.
Speaker 3: Actually, actually there is milk.
Speaker 1: Actually there's a film.
Speaker 3: There's good guys, so many glasses of tall, tall milk everywhere.
Speaker 3: Now no more glasses of milk as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 3: But movies, maybe the set designer will like, yeah, there
Speaker 3: might be pissed.
Speaker 2: Here's a tip on crying. I don't think this has
Speaker 2: worked on me. Imagine there's a column within you, a column,
Speaker 2: a column whatever. Ionic uh, Corinthian, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the other columns are.
Speaker 1: Do you know the difference between Ionic and Corinthian columns.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna if you're going to give more contexts, I
Speaker 3: might be able to use context clues.
Speaker 2: Just a column.
Speaker 1: I believe Corinthian have the lines straight down, of.
Speaker 3: Course, I'm just sorry they of course, But what was
Speaker 3: the first one? What is an Ionics just a base scroll?
Speaker 2: The scroll at the top still has lines, but then
Speaker 2: Corinthian has like these embellishments like these natural heard just
Speaker 2: imagine a calm within you, huh collapsing.
Speaker 3: That gets you? Okay ready everyone, No, I actually can't.
Speaker 2: Already we're dying.
Speaker 3: Wait, this is like to my reliable place I saw.
Speaker 3: I've been sort of starting to get like on my reels,
Speaker 3: reels is reels is my top?
Speaker 2: All yeah, and it's great, it's so good.
Speaker 3: Way from there, yeah a bit. I've been starting to
Speaker 3: get like I will dwell like just long enough on
Speaker 3: on clips of certain I will dwell long enough, long enough.
Speaker 1: And then and then the algorithms, well, she's dwelling, well,
Speaker 1: our girl is dwelling on this one.
Speaker 7: So yes, of course, the way the algorith famously works,
Speaker 7: and then it'll give me like these these beautiful like
Speaker 7: old women talking about how they make themselves, crying like
Speaker 7: I will, like I will, like just.
Speaker 3: Me in my room. I've been doing that at the
Speaker 3: end of these long days and like go there.
Speaker 1: And do you in the mirror you're always yeah, literally,
Speaker 1: then by the end of this we will oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my god, my god.
Speaker 2: And you put your lip too.
Speaker 1: Looking at.
Speaker 3: Imagine the most devastating.
Speaker 2: Affected real shorts.
Speaker 3: TikTok uh reel shorts. I don't well, I have kill shorts.
Speaker 3: Sorry it also YouTube you do I've never been I
Speaker 3: never I have.
Speaker 1: It's never never watch a short?
Speaker 3: Well, kill TikTok. And also, by the way, well all
Speaker 3: you all go.
Speaker 2: And then off kill TikTok. I'm marrying shorts because it's
Speaker 2: usually like recipes and wholes.
Speaker 3: You've never been on shorts? Are you on your phone?
Speaker 2: Like like everything else gets it because it's how the
Speaker 2: olgorithm works to it's just here's.
Speaker 3: A short, wait but wait, but no, but I've never
Speaker 3: I've never been fed a short.
Speaker 1: Do you go on YouTube for fun?
Speaker 3: Like I've ever been fed a short?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 3: Seriously? Where you on YouTube and you on your phone?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You just kind of do the thing. I I can't
Speaker 1: explain either.
Speaker 2: How you do?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: You if you go on YouTube for anything? Yeah, out
Speaker 2: of a video, there's gonna be a hole above the fold.
Speaker 2: They say in web design they have like a they
Speaker 2: have like a row of shorts that are just like
Speaker 2: little clipped.
Speaker 1: Videos watching shorts and you don't even know.
Speaker 2: You don't even know you're watching shorts?
Speaker 3: Are they horizontal?
Speaker 2: So I'm not Can I tell you what I've never
Speaker 2: got yesterday? Vertical integration? Yes, but that's a different vertical.
Speaker 2: Oh right, it's like you're integrating your vertical about columns vertical?
Speaker 1: I cry because of this topic. Okay, so we have
Speaker 1: to ask you the central question of our podcast, and
Speaker 1: I I just know you.
Speaker 2: Came with a with an answer answer.
Speaker 1: I had abrams, what was the culture that made you say?
Speaker 1: Culture was for you? Ultimately?
Speaker 3: Ultimately it was pure heroin God. Ultimately it was.
Speaker 1: Of the offerings it was.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, was it Megita Perez? And
Speaker 3: then truly Magita are you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I was like, it was it Magita pres because also
Speaker 3: like forget the Marnie of it all, Magita like now
Speaker 3: and I was gonna say Megita press and then I
Speaker 3: was also thinking like Beach House episode two shots where
Speaker 3: they've had the blow up and they yeah, but the
Speaker 3: nonverbal Marnie comes into the kitchen and they're all cleaning
Speaker 3: and they're not speaking, and then they're still not speaking
Speaker 3: and it's their doing there, and I was like, that
Speaker 3: is I grew up me Audrey, Leela and clem Are
Speaker 3: hour four. That like when I watched Girls when it
Speaker 3: came out, and I was like, too young, and it
Speaker 3: like helped inspire all of the kind of you know,
Speaker 3: it's like what like Adam Driver as a whole, you're
Speaker 3: sort of like you wonder as an adult why certain
Speaker 3: things are like yeah, like why and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: because I was twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway at those dynamics, yes, of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, but whatever and anyway, and then so so anyway,
Speaker 3: so I was thinking those Megita, I.
Speaker 1: Just what about Megita the interaction.
Speaker 3: The interaction, I felt like, you just see her, You've
Speaker 3: also she's like, I'm she backs herself. She immediately and
Speaker 3: that smile on her face when she walks with six
Speaker 3: hundred dollars is the biggest smile you see on Marty's
Speaker 3: face except for when Daisy's proposing also when yeah, anyway we.
Speaker 2: Go on, it's pure Haro, it's your heroine. But hold
Speaker 2: on before we go back to your Haroin. That is it.
Speaker 2: I've never been more shook on this podcast.
Speaker 1: He only ever wants to talk about Megita.
Speaker 2: No hype. Yeah, I think Perez like once a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Allison is going to be the car here. And
Speaker 3: I was like, I had this like impulse to not
Speaker 3: change my handle on Instagram, just changed my name.
Speaker 1: That would be really strong for forty eight hours twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, It's like part of album promound.
Speaker 2: Like pop craves, like a track called Gita.
Speaker 3: Perez is Megita on the album.
Speaker 2: You have to wear the the red halter, the red halter,
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: When she goes the slit up the front.
Speaker 2: But the way she says Megita, Perez.
Speaker 3: Meggita but she doesn't Mekita. Period.
Speaker 2: There's a little, a little roll in the army, Mikita
Speaker 2: pet What did she say? I find if I go,
Speaker 2: if I go about the.
Speaker 3: Two hundred extra, if I'm going above the tenth floor.
Speaker 2: And then she talks her behind he she goes, I
Speaker 2: have a fear of heights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an like two hundred extra if I go
Speaker 1: above the tenth floor, like she has some like fear
Speaker 1: that they can pay for It's incredible.
Speaker 3: There's but there's two. There's two, she gets, she gets,
Speaker 3: there's another. Feel what's the other feet above the tenth floor?
Speaker 2: Dress? Rental?
Speaker 1: Dress?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, dress rental one hundred
Speaker 2: unless you want me to come in my jeane.
Speaker 1: Way, Can I point out you're sort of the Megita
Speaker 1: red You sort of came dress where.
Speaker 3: Color of the year.
Speaker 1: Megita red.
Speaker 3: Anyway, but it was pure haro.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about your heroin.
Speaker 1: I also have a formative experience with it.
Speaker 3: It's when I started smoking we okay, so okay, right,
Speaker 3: So talking about it, well, I felt like there's lots
Speaker 3: to say the I feel like there are these moments,
Speaker 3: you know, like Buyork and Kate Bush and like Rosalia,
Speaker 3: like subverting pop and just redefining it. And I felt,
Speaker 3: you know, Lord who has since become such a dear friend,
Speaker 3: and so all of these memories are so hysterical and
Speaker 3: even more important than they were then because I get
Speaker 3: to like love her so much for the quality of
Speaker 3: human being that she is. She was like a couple
Speaker 3: years older than me, and I was fourteen when Peter
Speaker 3: Heroin came out, And that week that it came out,
Speaker 3: she was having a show at the Fonda in LA
Speaker 3: and I went, and it was the first show I've
Speaker 3: ever seen where like the concept of potentially performing was like,
Speaker 3: that was the first time I was ever not like
Speaker 3: absolutely fucking never, because.
Speaker 2: That's what it was before that. No, that was That's
Speaker 2: what it.
Speaker 3: Was like forever. Yeah, But seeing her know herself and
Speaker 3: also just be up there and command the crowd and
Speaker 3: not have like this flashy it was just her. She
Speaker 3: was she had her like long curly black hair, and
Speaker 3: she was wearing this huge, like it felt like a cape,
Speaker 3: like this long black dress, and it was just her
Speaker 3: and it just blew my mind and rocked my world.
Speaker 3: And I feel like it's always stuck with me in
Speaker 3: that same.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, because we were in college when Royals
Speaker 2: came out. I remember this. I was like, I was
Speaker 2: living in Crown Heights. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what my life is. I gotta figure this out. I
Speaker 2: like pulled out of med school applications. I was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta really rethink things. But something about pure Haroin
Speaker 2: like soundtracked, like I think it's time, but I think
Speaker 2: it timestamps everyone's life. Yes, you know, and within a
Speaker 2: certain like age bracket or whatever in terms of like
Speaker 2: whatever you were going through, it's it's pure hair. When
Speaker 2: it's all it's like agree.
Speaker 3: And I loved how dark it was yep, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think when you're like a tumblr middle schooler
Speaker 3: and it just was it was exactly perfect. It was
Speaker 3: exactly perfect.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Like really listening to four hundred Lucks,
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: How old is she really?
Speaker 1: It really didn't make any sense and all those signs were.
Speaker 3: You eight hundred?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty wild.
Speaker 3: She's like an owl inside, yes, her beautiful body.
Speaker 1: There was just there was just something that was so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just that was when I in the West Village.
Speaker 1: This was it for me, West Village in my tiny apartment,
Speaker 1: smoking weed for the first time and walking around the
Speaker 1: West Village like we're getting good at this, yes, and
Speaker 1: like it was just like the girl was fourteen years
Speaker 1: old and I'm vibing out.
Speaker 3: Yeah totally. And also I felt like I because she
Speaker 3: she I think she's like two years older than me.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I feel like there was that
Speaker 3: was just the time where I was like really yearning
Speaker 3: to like break free, yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And that album makes you want.
Speaker 1: To like lead to lead, Yeah, go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: And I didn't have my license yet and like long
Speaker 3: reax exactly our exit music.
Speaker 1: That's good for later.
Speaker 3: You guys are so many great segments on this show.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you that's shocking to hear because they
Speaker 1: literally sat us down the first day we ever had
Speaker 1: the podcast. I was like, oh, before we record, you
Speaker 1: guys should probably have segments and we were like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you come up with it on the spot.
Speaker 1: It was something we used to say to each other, are.
Speaker 3: You still working with those people?
Speaker 1: Which person no.
Speaker 3: So don't you feel kind of.
Speaker 2: But the beautiful thing about the podcast is that people
Speaker 2: say otherwise, it really hasn't changed, Like formally, it's been
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: He starts.
Speaker 3: Do you know the people.
Speaker 1: Think about the podcast is it is really the same.
Speaker 3: Peacock on the radio show. But how long has it
Speaker 3: been now that what the hell?
Speaker 1: When did you first hear that we were a podcast?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like always been In. It's one of
Speaker 3: those things though, truly where I actually you know when
Speaker 3: you can't remember a time before something.
Speaker 1: That's sort of like true. So it was it first
Speaker 1: was Lord, then a few years later we decided to
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: I think if there's no pure Heroin, there's no lost culture. Yes, wow,
Speaker 1: because I never started smoking weed, then.
Speaker 3: Exactly, that is the link, that is the link between.
Speaker 2: Everything and everything. What's your favorite song on the album?
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, I think Ribs Yeah, kind of a
Speaker 1: class I think it.
Speaker 3: Just like that's the one I would choose. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: And I also think it's like I loved her last
Speaker 3: album so much and also again, I feel like all
Speaker 3: of her albums they came at the exact correct time
Speaker 3: and and this one last year came out the first
Speaker 3: day of Gloston or no the yeah, the Friday of Glastonbury. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we were in the mud. We were I wish
Speaker 3: it was muddy. We didn't go to most people like
Speaker 3: people were so stoked. Was that that was my first
Speaker 3: one And we were playing Friday night at like seven thirty.
Speaker 3: It was like the it's the best weekend of my life.
Speaker 3: But her album came out that morning and she had
Speaker 3: a surprise show and I wasn't on festival grounds yet,
Speaker 3: but I sat and I got ready to go listening
Speaker 3: to her album and it was just it's the exact
Speaker 3: same feeling. It feels like you're like being like plugged
Speaker 3: into your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great way to put it.
Speaker 3: I just love her, you guys.
Speaker 1: She actually was supposed to come in and then we
Speaker 1: had to reschedule or it just didn't end up happening
Speaker 1: for that cycle. But she's been floating around the pod
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 3: She's just the coolest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so cool. Yeah, another common thread you're you
Speaker 2: were speaking you you speak of a lot of people
Speaker 2: whom you love in terms of like a past life.
Speaker 2: Maybe not that you're saying, but this about that lord,
Speaker 2: but it's like she's eight hundred years old. There's an
Speaker 2: awl inside her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like there's something spiritual. Do you see the
Speaker 1: animals and everyone?
Speaker 2: Do you see and that's beautiful?
Speaker 1: See the animals?
Speaker 3: You are reminding me of a bumblebee.
Speaker 1: Oh I've never heard that, you are. I've heard seal
Speaker 1: and I've heard every bad dinosaur.
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 2: I think? I have a lot of friends that want
Speaker 2: to knock me down. Yeah, a sea lion, and I
Speaker 2: see the sea lion of content. It's coming up on
Speaker 2: your reels now too.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of a lot of times I'll be
Speaker 1: on reels now and I'll just flick flick, flick, and
Speaker 1: then I'll see you or or or I don't like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I don't. I hate when it's the videos
Speaker 3: of them in an institution, I know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then I choose to this one.
Speaker 3: Great video tation center, and I understand.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what it was, because someone did
Speaker 1: get in my d MS and I did clock that.
Speaker 1: Everything else before they had said was also nasty. But
Speaker 1: they were like, are you posting this this captivated animal?
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I I really just loved his energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everyone.
Speaker 2: So this is this is this is the one thing
Speaker 2: on the internet. It's no, we have to we have
Speaker 2: to contact love, touch to touch.
Speaker 1: My conniverse really ruins.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have worn socks today.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, you should have.
Speaker 2: I should have to now. I don't want to wear
Speaker 2: I want to show my ankles because you're gonna make
Speaker 2: fun of them.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, you should no no no, no, no.
Speaker 6: No, no, don't don't wait. No they're gonna smell, no
Speaker 6: freaking out, no no no.
Speaker 3: And they are perfect feet, not now.
Speaker 1: After a petty was hold no no, no, no, I'll do
Speaker 1: I'll do this.
Speaker 3: No suck Matt my shoes off, both of them, perfect feet,
Speaker 3: perfect people. I'm in fact gonna get on wiki feet,
Speaker 3: make a profile.
Speaker 2: And then rate me.
Speaker 1: I like, I think it's better with the song.
Speaker 3: It's better with the sock and ever and no one
Speaker 3: look at me.
Speaker 2: You know, if you went home and there was like
Speaker 2: a bot farm, that would be so funny. If you
Speaker 2: just had a million.
Speaker 3: Fills saying block crazy apron, trust me, trust, trust farm,
Speaker 3: that would be you're a hummingbird to me?
Speaker 1: Sorry being a hummingbird. Aren't we rivals in the fields?
Speaker 3: What are you?
Speaker 1: I just feel like being a hummingbird. They do a
Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff.
Speaker 2: We're both going for the flower.
Speaker 3: But maybe there's a second order though in the is it?
Speaker 1: I think? Well, I guess it would depend what kind
Speaker 1: of be, because there's of course the queen bee, who's
Speaker 1: the top head honcho.
Speaker 2: Would you like that the worker bees connected to the worker? No?
Speaker 1: I just kind of I want some worker bees.
Speaker 3: Oh you lies?
Speaker 6: What's what?
Speaker 2: What's what's grazy? What's grazy? I don't no pressure, I
Speaker 2: have one.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, really well, because you're a gazelle.
Speaker 1: It's that weird that we both said it. What does
Speaker 1: that elegant one that is inspiring to the other grassland
Speaker 1: animals to leap higher, faster, stronger, earthy?
Speaker 2: But but can thank you?
Speaker 3: That's very nice.
Speaker 1: One who the lions are trying to get, but they're
Speaker 1: often not quick enough because they're thinking one step ahead
Speaker 1: of these lions. Famously, gazelle is absolutely never got attacked
Speaker 1: by lions. It just doesn't happen because there's so much smarter.
Speaker 3: It's like every dog is like them, getting their next.
Speaker 1: Like the lions of the the.
Speaker 3: We cannot give them that much, cannot be.
Speaker 1: No their hyaenas their vultures, and we're not dead yet.
Speaker 3: And we're not dead yet.
Speaker 1: Look somewhere else, you freaks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever the thing about Taylor when she goes, I
Speaker 2: have a very strong opinion that when you are young,
Speaker 2: you just feel things more intensely. I'm like, that is tea.
Speaker 3: Do you do you feel like you feel things less
Speaker 3: as you yeah, yeah, totally really, yeah, because there's fewer
Speaker 3: new feelings or why or because is it perspective and
Speaker 3: like right sizing, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's one third my lexapro dosage. I think it's
Speaker 1: one third what you said, yeah, and I think it's
Speaker 1: one third.
Speaker 2: Memory loss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the dream recipe.
Speaker 2: Honestly, just with the doctor ordered.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think of memory loss because I forgot it.
Speaker 3: I literally have that.
Speaker 2: No you don't you guys.
Speaker 1: Are you a stoner?
Speaker 3: Of course? Okay, so maybe and I've I'm actually like
Speaker 3: I'm right now in a in a period of like
Speaker 3: compared to before times. Yes, basically no before times, because
Speaker 3: there's a later.
Speaker 2: On the album where you're like the weed from when
Speaker 2: we were seventeen is like catching up to I'm.
Speaker 3: Not butering it, but no, no, that's basically it.
Speaker 2: So like what like what are you going to get?
Speaker 3: The lyric that comes before that is my brain half
Speaker 3: melted down?
Speaker 1: So for well, don't weight on the street in New
Speaker 1: York City.
Speaker 3: Well, New York weed is just a nightmare.
Speaker 1: It's evil.
Speaker 3: I also have a feeling that unless you're like with
Speaker 3: the exact right person in the exact right room, weed
Speaker 3: in New York period, regardless of where you got. It
Speaker 3: can also be like insidious, it's crazy, and I think
Speaker 3: it's because I've been getting over stimulated recently in a
Speaker 3: new way that I feel. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: that's embarrassing, and that's my fault, that's no one's fault.
Speaker 3: That's like I should just know myself now over stimulated.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, don't.
Speaker 1: Don't do that film acting towards us.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Sure, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know a bigger stoner than that person over there,
Speaker 1: Jared Frieder. And he smokes my weed and he's he
Speaker 1: has laid down and he says, you're crazy.
Speaker 3: Because it's so heavy.
Speaker 2: I feel sad.
Speaker 1: I go in there and I'm like and then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just looking for some pre rolls. And
Speaker 1: they're like, well, what do you want?
Speaker 2: What do you have? And they're like, Oh, you're gonna
Speaker 2: love this stuff.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm talking like a monster truck driver.
Speaker 1: But that's the scary place. Do you Inventura Bulevard? No,
Speaker 1: there is one there, Yeah, and I live next door
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 3: Are you guys stoners at the moment?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but what is that?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 3: Because because there's the only daily, daily daily o'clock.
Speaker 2: Uh No, I was going to yesterday last night and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna not. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was totally fine. I got a raw dog it more.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think. I think what I've been learning recently
Speaker 3: is that there's it's for some reason right now, the
Speaker 3: the it feels like a fifty to fifty chance of it,
Speaker 3: like landing or really like sending me.
Speaker 2: Well, when you say you get over stimulated, is that
Speaker 2: when you're not stoned or when you're when you're sobra
Speaker 2: that you're like, oh, I need it sobra.
Speaker 3: I feel like this particular like month, there's just lots
Speaker 3: to be engaged with. It's just like and it doesn't
Speaker 3: even not in the I just it feels like I
Speaker 3: want to be ready, and I think that I'm impaired.
Speaker 5: When I'm impaired, I guess for me sometimes when I'm high,
Speaker 5: but I think I'm kind of like I think what
Speaker 5: I'm hig I'm actually high and I so it just
Speaker 5: is a little bit iffy these days.
Speaker 3: But but but then I have this fantasy like of
Speaker 3: you know, like an evening that starts at four pm
Speaker 3: and then the next day isn't no obligations? That would
Speaker 3: be you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But I would be wonderful also living.
Speaker 3: Not here anymore. You know.
Speaker 2: I don't smoke at.
Speaker 3: All in London. Yeah, And I think like if we
Speaker 3: think New York, we'd a scary like I I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's even going on, and I just
Speaker 3: haven't engaged. And of course pop culture they're like, You're like,
Speaker 3: it's right outside, have a drink. And then they're like
Speaker 3: at dark outside, have a drink. You're like, WHOA.
Speaker 1: So jealous of London because they're getting a Universal Studios what?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, congrats you love that stuff. Love Let's go
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Play pure Haro, Universal did what was Your Last? Because
Speaker 3: they also love seemingly love you even more than you
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 2: So I think London, No, London, we know, and we
Speaker 2: love London.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my Christmas show in London.
Speaker 2: Oh my, go there.
Speaker 3: When I played we played there, and I and I
Speaker 3: got tattoos the day we played lots of I got
Speaker 3: tattoos the day we played that. In you, I have
Speaker 3: such a long list for you. Oh yeah, And also
Speaker 3: and also you need to come.
Speaker 1: I know, will you be around in November? Actually wait
Speaker 1: November fifth, eighteenth? No, oh come on please, like you're
Speaker 1: not around mama.
Speaker 3: Oh wait November, yeah, what is it?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think this is coming out after we've
Speaker 1: announced the tour, so we can just say that's what
Speaker 1: we're whispering.
Speaker 3: About, rehearsals for tour. Maybe I'll quit the tour.
Speaker 1: By the way, we just come to your show. We
Speaker 1: spoke earlier about the crowd happenings. I also want to
Speaker 1: say your performance was fucking great.
Speaker 3: That was so generous of you to be there, and
Speaker 3: I okay, recall.
Speaker 1: Can we say what happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say bageler call, there was no
Speaker 3: ticket for you.
Speaker 1: I get there, I'm excited to see Gracie. I go hi,
Speaker 1: I think I'm on the list.
Speaker 3: And also, of course I wasn't on my fucking phone
Speaker 3: till after the show, so of course check my phone
Speaker 3: and Matt's like, hey, I'm outside.
Speaker 2: No, I'm like I'm gontall, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: So I ended up buying a ticket and me, Jared
Speaker 1: and our friend were there, and it ended up exactly
Speaker 1: what needed to happen.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Yeah he already ticket, thank you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna be like I was going to be
Speaker 1: at that seat kind of by myself. And then they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, okay, well we just bought tickets. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm buying a ticket, went in the pit,
Speaker 1: and I needed to be there so that you.
Speaker 5: Could see the with all my friends.
Speaker 3: I LA shows are very weird come well, I think
Speaker 3: a couple of things. I think every tour in the
Speaker 3: history of the world comes through LA, so I think
Speaker 3: there's like a kind of.
Speaker 1: They're just not that excited about live shows. I always
Speaker 1: start with my tour there because I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: don't come here here later and then be like what
Speaker 1: happened in my.
Speaker 3: Worst I totally. I think also because I grew up there,
Speaker 3: I always have a fondness, which helps make up for
Speaker 3: the like anticipation of it being less like yeah, vibrant
Speaker 3: sometimes in the crowd. But I also my my curiosity
Speaker 3: for those who attend shows in LA is like why
Speaker 3: not lean in because you're only enriching the experience. If
Speaker 3: everyone's kind of like going nuts for for for anyone
Speaker 3: else who's not me, not me, I'm just like, do
Speaker 3: you know, like the the like, because touring is like
Speaker 3: the least cynical, like most whole, like like going to
Speaker 3: a show, seeing anything live, it's like you're spending money,
Speaker 3: spending energy, You're gettingdressed up, you're making a plan with
Speaker 3: friends probably or you're even braver are going alone and
Speaker 3: it's like you're singing stranger.
Speaker 1: My favorite experience. And I will say I've seen incredible
Speaker 1: shows in La. Mostly they happen at the Greek.
Speaker 3: I love the Greek the best. I love the Greek.
Speaker 1: We had like a Greek era Jared and I have
Speaker 1: you been to the Greek bo Like I've seeing a
Speaker 1: show with the Oh really.
Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever. I was my first La concert.
Speaker 2: Maybe was going to be Oh no, was Lily Allen? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Oh yeah that was in La. We
Speaker 2: did the last year. I was gonna I was gonna
Speaker 2: go with Pray one day. That would have been fun.
Speaker 1: No Adam at them anyway.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 1: We saw Maggie Rodgers at the Greek. We saw Casey
Speaker 1: Musters at the Greek Moon. I've seen twice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ima Image and Heap did che glove.
Speaker 1: It was really cool. That might have been the first
Speaker 1: concert we saw together Image and Heap honestly likes so
Speaker 1: not to ship on l A shows because there are
Speaker 1: so many yes, like special moments that happen.
Speaker 3: Also, it's like I, I really I have such a
Speaker 3: fondness and it is it's crazy to get to play
Speaker 3: shows there period, because there are venues that I grew
Speaker 3: up going to you, so I know them.
Speaker 2: Well, you haven't done, have you? I want that. I
Speaker 2: want that.
Speaker 6: But she's saying, but touching feet interesting.
Speaker 2: I was wanting to.
Speaker 3: Ask that's our Easter eggs about every time, like to
Speaker 3: see if they pick up on it.
Speaker 1: So the readers are noting that they touched feet. It's
Speaker 1: several different points during the episode. I feel like, what
Speaker 1: we because we went there, and I feel like there's
Speaker 1: an attitude amongst artists that like weekend one of Coachella
Speaker 1: is bad and Weekend two of Coachella is good.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing you can confirm that artists talk about.
Speaker 3: I have heard that in the discourse. Yeah, just probably
Speaker 3: exactly as much as you have. But I wonder if it's.
Speaker 2: About the band breaking the seal.
Speaker 3: And maybe or like I'm like, are there more? Like
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask are there more activations weekend one.
Speaker 3: There are like eye roll.
Speaker 1: They are a plenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been to i'n't been to Coachella in a
Speaker 3: long time. I went in high school and it was
Speaker 3: so fun. I and then this past summer, glaston Bray
Speaker 3: was our first of the festival run and it has
Speaker 3: ruined everything for me. I bet, have you done it? Guys?
Speaker 3: It's the best. It's like, I can't even begin to
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 2: Think you k festivals. I mean, we only have one
Speaker 2: data point, which was my mighty Hoopla. It's the gay one,
Speaker 2: the queer one.
Speaker 3: Incredible name.
Speaker 2: It's so and it was where is that? That's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's it's on. It's oh, it's a
Speaker 2: neighbor down, neighborhood down, neighborhood down, neighbors neighborhood, neghbor down.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you. Wait, where are they going to
Speaker 2: get Percy Pigs to the States? Let's let's let's you
Speaker 2: love them so much, so much? I like them too, Okay,
Speaker 2: well you don't care.
Speaker 3: I think they're so common these days.
Speaker 1: My love skills favorite candy. I'm like, this is the
Speaker 1: question we ask every guest, what was the candy? That
Speaker 1: what was the candy? Candy was for you?
Speaker 3: What's my favorite candy at Reese's.
Speaker 1: Pieces it's barely chalk it girl, girl a candy or else?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I ate, I ate a candy yesterday which was which
Speaker 3: was a sour pickle belt? What? What the who is
Speaker 3: she so good?
Speaker 1: Way?
Speaker 3: What's up with you guys in your personals?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, she didn't want to talk about candy anymore.
Speaker 3: No, I mean all day but.
Speaker 1: No, for real, for real, But this is the thing.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about her personal.
Speaker 3: They're so busy.
Speaker 1: Well, my personal is I'm happy because we're busy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like busy, I guess overwhelmed, like in a
Speaker 3: parasocial way, overwhelmed for the both of you.
Speaker 2: No, there's no need that you think we're too busy.
Speaker 3: Not too but just you're doing like so much at
Speaker 3: such a high level that I think, like, how.
Speaker 2: How I I'm coming off of plane psychosis to travel?
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean I think back to when you
Speaker 3: were like doing wicked.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm.
Speaker 3: Wicked in SNL. I'm like, how the hell? And that?
Speaker 3: Like I just think sometimes it was.
Speaker 1: It was a hell hell for sure. Now in retrospect,
Speaker 1: I think we're happy that Wicked.
Speaker 2: Is out there and that you're in it.
Speaker 1: Oh but during this yeah, you had to do it.
Speaker 2: I had There was no way I wasn't going to do.
Speaker 1: You're a gay guy that's offered Wicked and they tell
Speaker 1: you and you say, well, what's the role and you say, well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be Ariana Grande's sort of gay gay friend,
Speaker 1: and so they and then you go okay, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: think we're having another like twenty twenty four moment, like.
Speaker 3: Girl growing so much music coming out, it's the best news.
Speaker 2: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: I was watching someone react to Short and Sweet, and
Speaker 1: I remember texting you about Short and Sweet when it
Speaker 1: came out, Yes, and you were like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: she just swooped in and made the album of.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, yeah, I know it's it's I'm sorry, but
Speaker 3: also what can't you do? And like, I think I
Speaker 3: feel like all of us at this point are done
Speaker 3: being surprised by how phenomenal she's just cemented, like forever, forever, forever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like there's like you know, I also like talk about
Speaker 3: someone who I wish would take a nap for the.
Speaker 2: Sake of your heart soul? What do I know?
Speaker 3: And she seems like I mean, she's glowing harder than you.
Speaker 1: Guys are all coming up and solidifying together at the
Speaker 1: same time in a generation that that feels very cool.
Speaker 1: You're part of like a cool class of pop girlies.
Speaker 3: I love them. I'm just happy to be here today.
Speaker 2: On a good job for you all.
Speaker 1: No, it's a group shot called Slade twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: and now twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four is back twenty twenty fours. We're so back.
Speaker 2: It's the two year anniversary you have twenty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Do you ever go into soho and like hang.
Speaker 3: Like not often?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know a lot about it. Is that
Speaker 1: a weird thing for you to do?
Speaker 3: Yummies? Even to mountain?
Speaker 2: No, what's so good about the mountain mount the mountain mountain?
Speaker 3: It is basically like the mountain. It's so good. It's
Speaker 3: just a really delicious restaurant. It's like super super fresh,
Speaker 3: like yummy, like small plates, but also like big plates.
Speaker 2: Well, we love to shooe why we love to Shoom.
Speaker 3: I love to Shome the times a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, delivery to Shoom.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My code is twenty four if you need it.
Speaker 2: It's like twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Did you you shot in London?
Speaker 2: Shot in London?
Speaker 3: Was it? What's it?
Speaker 2: Leaves Din? And we did Elstree and then we went
Speaker 2: we shot like all the shid stuff, like in this
Speaker 2: literal astro turf farm because they got to grow it
Speaker 2: because it's frazy.
Speaker 3: It was real.
Speaker 2: Well I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, astro not real.
Speaker 1: It was never clear.
Speaker 2: It was never clear for it was like it was
Speaker 2: AstroTurf that it was fake, Like why don't you just
Speaker 2: make it in the factory. But they needed to like
Speaker 2: lay it out or something, make it in the.
Speaker 3: Factory, make it in the factory, making the factory on
Speaker 3: the air, just make it in fact.
Speaker 2: Making the factory. And then we would stay at the
Speaker 2: grove which is all the way out. But anyway, we
Speaker 2: love to shoom and it's fine, it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Rumor they're bringing it to America.
Speaker 3: Wow, great, you didn't.
Speaker 1: They really are New York.
Speaker 3: I love their sauces, are chutneys and such.
Speaker 2: Their chicken bery Britannica, Britannia.
Speaker 1: It's like Chicken Britannica. He's probably your drag mate. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Chicken Britannica, Britannica, and I'll be Britanica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not pork.
Speaker 1: What am I?
Speaker 2: You're not pork? I roll irolle veel Britannica.
Speaker 1: Yes, how I love that for me.
Speaker 2: I just waiting at your team.
Speaker 1: I've made eye contact with her.
Speaker 3: I'm always doing ship like that with them.
Speaker 2: Do you love the team?
Speaker 3: I love?
Speaker 2: Give you the hands, give it up.
Speaker 3: It's really I'm the luckiest in the so.
Speaker 1: You're loving your loving life. It's going to be an
Speaker 1: incredible sum.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a sum. It's going to be
Speaker 3: some busy, yes, but but like, thank God and thank God,
Speaker 3: and I think I think there's so much to return
Speaker 3: to at home as well. But I love I also
Speaker 3: love learning what it's like to be at home.
Speaker 1: To congrats on your Cultural Award nomination.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: We were both touched, beyond believed, and there were so
Speaker 5: many options of.
Speaker 2: We did it. Wait, he wanted a picture with me
Speaker 2: when we when he was at us.
Speaker 3: And that was I that was I loved that episode.
Speaker 2: Of course he was so funny. We wrote him the
Speaker 2: craziest sketch in the world.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about.
Speaker 1: She was?
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, she was. She was in the flesh.
Speaker 1: She was was that episode of SNL.
Speaker 3: God, that was amazing. The fact first of all, the
Speaker 3: fact that like end credits, it's all and Tricia. It
Speaker 3: was like, I can I can go.
Speaker 1: By the way, Tricia is television's biggest star. She stars
Speaker 1: on Hacks and she also was on Was she on
Speaker 1: the Company?
Speaker 3: She was on Euphoria, she was on.
Speaker 1: Tricia is all over television?
Speaker 3: Are you guys, dear friends?
Speaker 1: Bowen knows Tricia.
Speaker 2: I spent one day with her.
Speaker 3: I just didn't. I was like, I didn't wear in
Speaker 3: the like because I just, of course, like the rest,
Speaker 3: I have a million, of course questions, like I just
Speaker 3: want to know everything.
Speaker 1: Well, the best was when we went to go see
Speaker 1: Lily Allen Show and then there's a bit in the
Speaker 1: show where this woman rises up and Bowen is like,
Speaker 1: is that Tricia? And it was Tricia Pets By the way.
Speaker 1: The next night, Lisa ran I saw that. I saw
Speaker 1: that do you have Bravo takes?
Speaker 3: Well, so you've been my guide. I had that was
Speaker 3: that there was definitely not the start of us loving
Speaker 3: each other, no or me loving you.
Speaker 1: I can't speak, but it was. But it was the.
Speaker 2: Secret of us, secret of us.
Speaker 1: It was it was that sort of worked.
Speaker 3: That was really nice, really good, really nice. I I've
Speaker 3: just done salt Lake, yeah, or I've a while ago?
Speaker 2: Can I ask.
Speaker 1: Big pulls from salt Lake? Where do you stand? Who is?
Speaker 1: Who's your girl?
Speaker 3: What's scary again about like the memory of it all is?
Speaker 3: I don't even remember where we.
Speaker 2: Left them totally, that's I think, fine.
Speaker 3: Where did we leave them? Oh?
Speaker 1: Upset on an island.
Speaker 2: About Whitney, Whitney, Bronwyn and bron She was not.
Speaker 1: She announced that she's getting a divorce.
Speaker 3: That was where we left it right, kind of not together?
Speaker 3: What are my takes?
Speaker 1: She now dates a male model?
Speaker 3: Incredible? Oh, but Survivor not Bravo. What if there's Bravo
Speaker 3: Survivor crossover? Can I pitch that?
Speaker 1: I think you just imagine And this is the place
Speaker 1: where Manifest Survivor. Wait, we were just talking about the season.
Speaker 2: He's going to come out like.
Speaker 3: Soon, Heather Gay is like taking.
Speaker 1: I think Heather would be good, It would be great.
Speaker 3: You guys, should you have.
Speaker 2: No idea what I'm fighting for?
Speaker 3: What's her? What was her? What was her I want
Speaker 3: to win survivor what was her line? Season one assault
Speaker 3: Lake like like my like.
Speaker 2: My pioneer, pioneer.
Speaker 1: Trail, just like my pioneer ancestors.
Speaker 3: I've never been my favorite is.
Speaker 2: You come for me?
Speaker 1: I will send Jesus after you.
Speaker 3: Who is that? Of course? And Meredith's uh, jealousy is
Speaker 3: a disease, to which I said, get always said, which
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 2: Syntactically, it makes no sense she's saying to the disease.
Speaker 1: Is a disease, to which I say, she should keep
Speaker 1: speaking and not making it's her whole thing. You you
Speaker 1: didn't speak speak up for.
Speaker 3: Me at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you didn't speak up for me at all.
Speaker 1: You have to.
Speaker 3: It's the looking down. Then there's the like hed.
Speaker 1: Time question, what's the goal?
Speaker 2: What's the goal?
Speaker 1: Well, she can fu offs. It's a never ending wheel
Speaker 1: of the way you can say words.
Speaker 2: That is just it's very Brian Cox. It is I
Speaker 2: would love to and Brian Cox.
Speaker 3: Off and he.
Speaker 2: And then turn the round.
Speaker 3: Off.
Speaker 2: Helena better get you saying off.
Speaker 3: In the movie. I will put that in whatever my
Speaker 3: next conversation is you ever give each other a word
Speaker 3: to drop in a like an interview or something.
Speaker 2: Should we do that?
Speaker 3: I dare you to do?
Speaker 1: Okay, so we should do that. We're gonna be We're
Speaker 1: about to be doing a lot of interviews together. But
Speaker 1: this will come out, I think after Now, let's say
Speaker 1: this is an Eastga Okay, I should be easy to
Speaker 1: be honest. Okay, what interview is going to be the
Speaker 1: hardest one to drop?
Speaker 2: Macgita Perez, how many times have you done that?
Speaker 1: Watch what happens? This is my tenth appearance.
Speaker 2: Is it fun and so quick? I feel like I
Speaker 2: need more context?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, just more well yes, of the brav
Speaker 3: overse like I feel I would feel like a bit
Speaker 3: of a fraud. I think being across from him and
Speaker 3: speak on anything.
Speaker 1: Sally feel was on there that I didn't know about Bravo.
Speaker 1: But she Sally.
Speaker 3: Feels she can do she can Well, that's your Sally
Speaker 3: feel yourself. You don't even look at me like that, never,
Speaker 3: never even like Sally Field look at me like Sally.
Speaker 2: That's a real culture. Number eight doesn't look at me
Speaker 2: like Sally. You said role model every night when he
Speaker 2: opened for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do not like wa what's our
Speaker 3: word for Gracie.
Speaker 2: For you to drop dropping an interview? Give me anything,
Speaker 2: I'm pissed. No wait wait ding dong ionic ding ding.
Speaker 3: Happily Okay if ionic, it's crazy ionic, just describe some
Speaker 3: that's like it's like they ask a question, like what's
Speaker 3: it like writing a song? It's like there's this.
Speaker 1: Ionica like like that you lean against. I wanted to describe.
Speaker 1: I wanted to explore like a more ionic sound on
Speaker 1: this album. And I buy it because.
Speaker 3: People are going to be like, yeah, people would love that.
Speaker 1: And then some people are gonna be like what the
Speaker 1: fuck is she talking about? But you have to be
Speaker 1: brave enough they block me traffic and that confusion they
Speaker 1: block you.
Speaker 2: Don't understand why anyone would.
Speaker 3: What new music are you guys liking these days? Like yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, do you guys listen to underscores?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, talk about this that's.
Speaker 3: In the beginning of this just like yeah, isn't it beautiful?
Speaker 2: Kind of this but it's kind of like fuck, I
Speaker 2: love it. Oh, it's a gag?
Speaker 1: Have you put this on a playlist to me? And
Speaker 1: always does that?
Speaker 2: Sobi Club you should you would love Stebe Club. It's
Speaker 2: very like punk, but with this kind of.
Speaker 3: Like okay, you're you're a Slater fan. I saw you
Speaker 3: later and Tom Nish, Oh amazing.
Speaker 2: I've been spending that album for weeks.
Speaker 3: Some of my friends are deeply obsessed and in it,
Speaker 3: and I need to kind of like spend more time.
Speaker 2: There in the Tom world. Hot little Birds guy, you
Speaker 2: know we love that right now.
Speaker 1: I'm very kiss me.
Speaker 3: I dropped every time the radio comes on and I
Speaker 3: have to say, I follow me there.
Speaker 1: I can't believe begged the second. I know she's a freak.
Speaker 3: She's such a freak. Her voice never sounded better somehow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just the control.
Speaker 1: I don't say the same thing for you, by the way,
Speaker 1: and wait, can we just before we do? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, actually talk about your amazing work. I
Speaker 1: just want to say, like we were listening to Jared
Speaker 1: and I listened to it together hit the Wall. Can
Speaker 1: you just talk about like finding all this bigness in
Speaker 1: your sound, because you've always had big emotions and I
Speaker 1: feel like this sounds sonically is even bigger and matching
Speaker 1: those emotions. Now, if that is that something you strove
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it was just like being in the
Speaker 3: whole thing was informed by having been on road for
Speaker 3: the past few years, but like really diving into the
Speaker 3: production process once it ended ended, and I think that
Speaker 3: there was a lot of like more patients are like
Speaker 3: space in this album actually, or it felt like it
Speaker 3: matched my sort of internal rhythm being of road.
Speaker 1: Off road, when you were off the.
Speaker 3: Road when tor ended, and so I feel like there's
Speaker 3: this kind of to me conversation in the album between
Speaker 3: having space and then also when songs do want to build.
Speaker 3: We were very intricate in the production of so many
Speaker 3: vocal layers and where you know, I felt like the
Speaker 3: story would benefit from that kind of impact, and it
Speaker 3: was it was a real treat to make. I don't know,
Speaker 3: we were it was all very thoughtful and Aaron and
Speaker 3: I made this together again. This is our sixth year
Speaker 3: working together. And I love him because he's not like
Speaker 3: he sort of reminds me at least that you don't
Speaker 3: need to make some radical change in order to like
Speaker 3: have your next album be a valid step forward. And
Speaker 3: you're kind of like artistry or just being a person.
Speaker 3: It's like it can just accurately reflect where you're at.
Speaker 3: And to me, this felt like it felt like the
Speaker 3: most elevated version of all of the ways that we've
Speaker 3: written and worked together in the past, Like there's his
Speaker 3: gothic folky sounds that he's like mayor of Gothic folk town,
Speaker 3: and like what if it's right and humming do things
Speaker 3: like that, and then like good Reason feels like a
Speaker 3: sister song to I Love You, I'm Sorry in ways
Speaker 3: to me but like different, and then like look at
Speaker 3: my life we wrote to a pulse, which we do
Speaker 3: all the time, or like cold goodbyes we just did
Speaker 3: one instrument in my vocal or like hit the wall
Speaker 3: felt like I don't know, there's all these kind of
Speaker 3: like trances that envelope us in the studio and this
Speaker 3: was a real heavenly experience to do it. And I'm
Speaker 3: grateful to him because I was having this like on
Speaker 3: the tour toward the end, where everyone has been on
Speaker 3: the bus and with each other and just like the
Speaker 3: energy and the kind of like social like being on
Speaker 3: and the where you're sort of like white knuckling in
Speaker 3: a way that is full of gratitude but also like
Speaker 3: survival mode a bit in order to get through. I
Speaker 3: was just so my voice inside my head was like
Speaker 3: not there anymore. Like I was so tired. I just
Speaker 3: felt like absolutely gone. And Aaron's music with no words
Speaker 3: and no vocal nothing like always sort of like presses
Speaker 3: some button in me that like allows me to remember
Speaker 3: what I feel and remember my perspective and hear myself again.
Speaker 3: So this album was a surprise to me and.
Speaker 1: Really interesting, like he's creates like escape for you to
Speaker 1: then like inhabit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like hear yourself again.
Speaker 2: That's really cool, bless.
Speaker 1: I was thinking while I was listening to it that
Speaker 1: it's made for a live experience too, Like Daughter from
Speaker 1: Hell is just going to be such a communal.
Speaker 2: Moment for everyone there.
Speaker 1: I feel, I you do you do have them wanting
Speaker 1: that experience, Well.
Speaker 3: They're really bringing it. I get to just hang out
Speaker 3: and watch them have good time. It's really nice. But
Speaker 3: that song in particular, we wrote with this particular show
Speaker 3: in mind, not this album, but we were thinking about
Speaker 3: a specific like festival experience, and that's on this amazing
Speaker 3: baritone guitar, and it's just playing that. We've been in
Speaker 3: rehearsals this past week for lots of things and playing
Speaker 3: that live so good. Yeah, and like it's interesting, it's
Speaker 3: so fun how quickly like already playing these songs of
Speaker 3: the band. I'm like, my favorite song is shifting around
Speaker 3: always and so I think, you know, just shout.
Speaker 1: Out where you at today? A favorite song wise, I think.
Speaker 3: The Knife for I love thee That song gets me. Fuck,
Speaker 3: it's so good live, like it's such a band song. Yes,
Speaker 3: and they're all just such brilliant players. So everyone who
Speaker 3: worked on this album I'm addicted to and I admire
Speaker 3: so much. So it was a joy.
Speaker 2: It's truly well, thank you for sharing all that.
Speaker 3: That's so profan for listening and letting me talk.
Speaker 2: You didn't say ionic, so yeah, you just have to
Speaker 2: say ionic.
Speaker 3: Well maybe like two point seven will be like that,
Speaker 3: just the ion.
Speaker 2: It the force.
Speaker 1: What Honestly, if an reviewer one day says, so talk
Speaker 1: about the ionic nature of this album, know that we
Speaker 1: sent them.
Speaker 3: There, I'll say ding dong yeah.
Speaker 1: And they'll come in with a million dollars. It's a
Speaker 1: mister beasts challenge. Anyways, With that in mind, it is
Speaker 1: time for I don't think so honey, And really what
Speaker 1: it is is it's a one minute segment on this
Speaker 1: podcast where sort of cathartically tear down something in culture
Speaker 1: that's been giving us some troubles. I'm finally speaking truth
Speaker 1: about something on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Finally. Yeah, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so,
Speaker 2: Whny his time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Sunglass shopping, when you have
Speaker 1: a long head and a bridge of your nose, that
Speaker 1: is what a little crooked. It's especially complicated by the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm colorblind. I go in to a sunglass store, shop, stand,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, any of those s locations, and I
Speaker 1: am met with strife another s because basically I can't
Speaker 1: cannot find a pair of sunglasses that fit my face.
Speaker 1: I am gonna need them custom made. I put them on.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit askew. I would rather they be
Speaker 1: full ascue, because then it could be a statement. This
Speaker 1: is just nothing. It's just a little bit wrong. I
Speaker 1: already had the nose job, yep, So now what non elective? Medically,
Speaker 1: I medically needed to have fifteen seconds, but they wouldn't
Speaker 1: let me use my insurance to cover it because they
Speaker 1: said it was elective. But I say, if you saw
Speaker 1: the cyst in my nose at the time, you would know.
Speaker 1: I couldn't have lived with it. No, I don't know
Speaker 1: how we got there, but I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: sunglass shopping and that's one minute.
Speaker 3: Okay, where was the cyst? Honey?
Speaker 1: Right there, I'll show you breathe so get this. It
Speaker 1: didn't affect my breathing at all. It just like it
Speaker 1: was just like an in.
Speaker 3: Doctors are like it's elected.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Was my boyfriend at the time
Speaker 1: I had this cyst? Was that a medical necessity.
Speaker 2: Because it smelled, didn't it?
Speaker 1: Everyone stop? This is my foot and my nose are
Speaker 1: my things.
Speaker 2: Everyone stop, this is my thing with sunglass shopping. Oh,
Speaker 2: I put on sunglasses. I go to the mirror to
Speaker 2: see myself. I can't see a damn thing in the
Speaker 2: exactly dark.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, that's a real culture dark number thirty.
Speaker 2: I put on sunglasses.
Speaker 1: It's also dark.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you can't see.
Speaker 3: You have an amazing nose.
Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 3: What do you mean crooked?
Speaker 1: Where you'll see if you if you really look, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit the bone here.
Speaker 3: I can't see, but I trust you, of course, have
Speaker 3: a I also have a sunglass problem. Let me see
Speaker 3: absolutely straight.
Speaker 1: See this is why I own these though.
Speaker 3: Did you get them fixed for you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, this was a.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at them very asy wow. Out of the whole
Speaker 1: wicked soundtrack, I chose like could have been I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be gld coated during your I don't think so, honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is I don't think so, honey. Do you
Speaker 1: have a topic on today? This is Bow's. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. I always go to the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: That's right time his time starts now.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Reading taking such a long time.
Speaker 2: I want to read every damn book in the world, basically,
Speaker 2: but it takes a minute. It do take time results
Speaker 2: in time. I wish I could read a book in
Speaker 2: merely five minutes, but no, I think I am on
Speaker 2: page fifty seven and I'm gonna be on this page
Speaker 2: for the next six months. And that's what sucks about reading.
Speaker 2: A lot of great things about reading, but the worst,
Speaker 2: shittiest thing about reading is how you have to basically
Speaker 2: sit or stand and be visually uninteresting as this thing
Speaker 2: that has to ferment in your brain takes hold. I
Speaker 2: wish it were faster. There's no real substitute for actual reading.
Speaker 2: And I think we would be a much better society
Speaker 2: if we had, if our eyes moved faster, if we
Speaker 2: could read words on top of each other, stacked on
Speaker 2: top of each other. But there's just no way around it.
Speaker 1: Five seconds.
Speaker 2: It's linear, and I wish it were radio.
Speaker 1: And that's so what book is giving you. Try.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I stop it.
Speaker 2: Middle March. Oh wow, I want to have a Middle
Speaker 2: March summer. I always try to have a Middle March summer.
Speaker 2: It doesn't in fact, on speaking of a kid putting
Speaker 2: it down, I keep putting it because it's a big,
Speaker 2: big book.
Speaker 3: And I had well that's what I was gonna say, like,
Speaker 3: of course that would that would take.
Speaker 2: Anyone time, would take anyone. But I had it on
Speaker 2: the set of Wicked.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Cynthia was like, what book is that. I
Speaker 2: was like, it's Middle March by George Elliott and it's
Speaker 2: actually a woman whatever this was her pseudonym. She goes,
Speaker 2: I'll read that.
Speaker 3: She read it. Yeah, I was gonna say it's gone,
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, I'm gone.
Speaker 2: Gone, gone gone. She read it in a week and
Speaker 2: I was like, she does everything. I was like cynth
Speaker 2: while I read the math.
Speaker 3: On she is, like I was playing, She's like a
Speaker 3: super human she is.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Dracula?
Speaker 3: I haven't.
Speaker 1: I played twenty seven different ways.
Speaker 3: Have you seen it?
Speaker 1: No? No, because I do it, because I do. I
Speaker 1: don't see it.
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I am it.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's I don't think so honey, Like, well, I
Speaker 3: actually I can't.
Speaker 1: Do you ever started to like this is it Irish
Speaker 1: accent harder than hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking, He's talking all sorts.
Speaker 1: Of are you ready for your I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: I think so yeah, Okay, I have I Do you
Speaker 1: keep like a bunch of them in your head or
Speaker 1: do you have one?
Speaker 3: What was concerning me is that I I which I
Speaker 3: think is also like maybe maybe pleasant. But then I
Speaker 3: was thinking about the two of you.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't don't don't think about us.
Speaker 3: I was like thinking. I was like, and I even
Speaker 3: as I as I because I'm even in this moment,
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's a couple that I could go with, and.
Speaker 1: I'm heart come out. This is Gracie Abrams. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, your time starts now.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think so, honey. Travel Etiquette Edition with
Speaker 3: love and understanding that everyone operates in their own individual way.
Speaker 3: My personal hope and dream is that in public spaces
Speaker 3: like not to go back to the feet please, But
Speaker 3: I feel it's fascinating the impulse when we're on a
Speaker 3: plane thirty thousand feet up in the air in a
Speaker 3: metal tube, that we're taking our socks all the way off.
Speaker 3: That fascinates me. I have also recently been on a
Speaker 3: flight where people were clipping their nails on the flight.
Speaker 3: Flight attendants are angels in the sky. Forget everyone you're
Speaker 3: sitting next to. You're making everyone un comfortable. They are
Speaker 3: seeing that and that's their space. So I would just
Speaker 3: say please. Another thing is when you're going through TSA,
Speaker 3: you have to put the tray back in the thing
Speaker 3: or you're a bad person. And then you feel performative
Speaker 3: beyond when you put everyone else's not a nice feeling.
Speaker 3: And then my last live too are oh shit, okay,
Speaker 3: the mouth of the mouth of the of the of
Speaker 3: the of the machine. When you're the bags are coming out,
Speaker 3: we bum rush. If everyone took a step back, we'd
Speaker 3: have air to breathe, and we have room to see,
Speaker 3: and we'd almost have room to stretch post flight. And
Speaker 3: I just think these are things to maybe consider, and
Speaker 3: I'll leave it there.
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey has been in one minute.
Speaker 1: And do you know what the other thing was? Because
Speaker 1: you said there were two things that you decided to
Speaker 1: leave it there, but there's something else.
Speaker 3: I just think. I don't think. I don't think so Honey,
Speaker 3: like sig shaming anyone but yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, got it? Cigarette, don't cigarette other people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone is doing their best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. Are you a smoker?
Speaker 3: Like everyone's in a while? Everyone?
Speaker 2: I do it on vacation every once.
Speaker 3: In a while. Yeah it's a sunny Saturday, yea, or.
Speaker 1: Or I've had one to five drinks. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm just said, by the policing of certain behaviors, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, I get it, like I understand, and we
Speaker 3: all have the same information, and therefore, like you don't
Speaker 3: know what's going on and everyone's live.
Speaker 1: I do have to be a vaporizer police, though.
Speaker 3: I certainly am not on that wave I and I know,
Speaker 3: and I know when I heard that story, I stopped.
Speaker 3: I was on a line bike, got off it stop
Speaker 3: really god, because I was like, hold on, I was
Speaker 3: going too fast. Yeah, I need to slow down and
Speaker 3: hear you. I've got off and then walked home.
Speaker 2: And I would argue a line bike is sort of
Speaker 2: the vapes of vehicles.
Speaker 3: Well, and then another I don't think so honey that
Speaker 3: I was sitting on was that like, I don't think
Speaker 3: so honey. City bikes don't have the phone holders, oh,
Speaker 3: which is for safety and for like a beautiful social
Speaker 3: kind of you can call your you can call your friend.
Speaker 2: Like not in a dangerous No.
Speaker 3: I know New York is a grid, and I know
Speaker 3: London like you really need to know where you're going.
Speaker 2: But London has the holders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do it all better.
Speaker 3: I know, come on, New York.
Speaker 1: New York is fantastic.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, listen, this has been just thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, no, thank you so much. This is this podcast.
Speaker 3: What you guys make is a big part of the
Speaker 3: you know, joy of my every week. So thank you.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't be more obsessed with you.
Speaker 3: I literally just couldn't be more grateful, and you guys
Speaker 3: are I'm just I wish it wasn't a thing. I'm
Speaker 3: like it's not one o'clock.
Speaker 1: Well, we've done a lot, We've got ionic back in
Speaker 1: the conversation.
Speaker 2: We've read the original title that was the Aubrey situation.
Speaker 2: The Aubrey situation. There's no situation and situation.
Speaker 3: Do we, Megita? You like the Audrey situation.
Speaker 2: I want people to stumble on Megita Perez the way
Speaker 2: that I did, which was not expecting and being absolutely
Speaker 2: smack smacked.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the title of that, you guys?
Speaker 1: You would said it. I forget what it was. But
Speaker 1: everything feet, everything feeding feet.
Speaker 3: That feels perfect, perfect, They're gonna flip everything everything feet
Speaker 3: with Gracie Abrams.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, looking forward to that hitting your airwaves soon,
Speaker 1: which is now actually Daughter from Hell.
Speaker 2: Daughter from album is fantastic. All of your music is
Speaker 2: everything you do is exciting and great and we love
Speaker 2: you and.
Speaker 1: We'll see yuh Silver Universal Studios. Thirty guys, we had
Speaker 1: every episode with a song. What did we say we
Speaker 1: were going to do? Oh? How does it start?
Speaker 2: Shut?
Speaker 3: Dreams of Green seen?
Speaker 1: Wait while I'm waiting out front, this is going to
Speaker 1: be really good for everyone and oh again, well what wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, wait, what is it?
Speaker 3: No, No, I hope you just leave in when it's
Speaker 3: just Matt.
Speaker 1: Like this, you're saying me, why that key anyway?
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