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Speaker 1: Advice, Shoe Strong Love Low. Welcome to the Naughty but

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Speaker 1: Nic Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter. It's Wednesday, which

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Speaker 1: means our dear friend Donnie meetscham from Okay magazine dot

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Speaker 1: Com is joining us. Donnie, are you there? Hallower lower

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Speaker 1: Lower Low. I just had to give a prerequisite to start.

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Speaker 1: I'm dog sitting today. So if you hear a little

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Speaker 1: like pay to be we needy, needy, needy. It's like

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Speaker 1: being back in New York with me. I know well, Wolf, Wolf,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Doggie. Let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: We've got so much gossip to get to. What time

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Speaker 1: is it, my friends? It is t dary devastating news.

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Speaker 1: At the top of the show, Nick Cannon has shared

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Speaker 1: So Nick got really emotional making the announcement on The

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Speaker 1: Nick Cannon Show, telling his audience that his five year

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Speaker 1: old son Zen has passed away. Nick says things took

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Speaker 1: He died soon afterwards. Nick says when he was just

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Speaker 1: about two months old, Zen started to develop what he

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Speaker 1: thought was a sinus issue. He also noticed too, that

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Speaker 1: was nick seventh child, old born earlier. This you just heartbreaking, Donnie,

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Speaker 1: just heartbreaking. Yeah, I feel so bad. And then you

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Speaker 1: know the mom, Melissa Scott, she posted really you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel really bad for this guy. Yeah, I find

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Speaker 1: that in life. I don't tell anybody else how to agrieve.

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Speaker 1: have had terrible pain and terrible losses in their lives

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Speaker 1: and I just don't get involved in how they grieve.

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Speaker 1: All we can do is be really, really supportive. We

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Speaker 1: precious life is And Nick said this at the end

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Speaker 1: kiss someone we love, Tell people we love them. Donny,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on? Well, Brooke Shields, she's looking

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Speaker 1: back on her infamous interview with Miss Boba Walters. She's

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Speaker 1: she's blasting her. It was a very different time back,

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Speaker 1: but you look back on it. And Brooke was fifteen

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Speaker 1: I think we've learned a lot. And obviously Brookshields is

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Speaker 1: was all about, look how clever and witty Rob Shooter is.

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Speaker 1: Listen to these brilliant questions. No, no, no, listen to people,

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Speaker 1: one is Brooke right? Oh go vote on a Twitter

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Speaker 1: page at naughty, nice, Robert at these Big Beaches naughty

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Speaker 1: and Sieur to check back tomorrow to hear your results.

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Speaker 1: So that Jesse Smilett trial is ongoing. Now, it's been

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Speaker 1: revealed the Jesse received texts from CNN's Don Lemon during

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Speaker 1: the police didn't believe Jesse. Now. At the time, Lemon

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Speaker 1: They've got rid of Chris and have Don's in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all a moment where we have to realize,

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Speaker 1: going on with the Bachelor ed Tasia Adams? I used

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Speaker 1: news from Bachelor Nation Tasha and Zach they actually broke up,

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