1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hawks Live every Thursday at seven pm to 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: nine pm right here on seventeen esp and on Michael 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Bobbs with Paul Morier. We have a great show for 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: you guys. Today, we're gonna talk to a shot at Henny. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: John Clayton's gonna join the show. We'll talk that talk 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: with me and Paul kind of square up on some issues. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: We'll break down film in the film room, and then 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: we'll go around the NFL. That's the show in a nutshell, 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: not in that order, but we're gonna get to all 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: those points. Morier, how you doing. I'm doing well. You 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: know it was is it Monday playing Monday's It's quick? 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: You know that was a tough one. You know that. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: You know it's fans or whatever, emotionally and obviously for 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: I think Pete and the players and everything. When when 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: you're struggling football team, you know, struggling to win games 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: is more than anything. Um, you know, you start looking 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: for every reason and answers. And to me, it wasn't 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: that difficult. When I went back and looked at the 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: game again. You know, you got your backup quarterback. You 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: got to play a game's a certain way to give 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: yourself a chance to win, because that's the goal. It's 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: not statistics, it's can we find a way to win. 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: And it could be running it, throwing it, could be 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: blitzing it. Play soft defense doesn't matter. And we had 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: a chance, probably should have won the game. But it 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: really came down to me. Came down special teams and 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: that their rookie kicker out kicked our veteran kicker. I thought, 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: you know that we missed two field goals. He didn't 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: miss one. I would have liked to have had him 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: try to kick a forty two yarder on the one 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: that we jumped off sides on instead. And field position, 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we just couldn't turn the switch on field position. 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: And there was one time we kicked the ball into 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the end zone and you know, our punters awesome, you know, 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: he's he's one of the very best at kicking the 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: ball inside the twenty, but in this particular taste, Michael 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: didn't kick it the way norma doesn't. It bounced into 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the end zone. And I want to say the same drive, 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: the very next drive, they punted one down to our 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: one yard line, and man, we just could not win 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: that field position battle. And when you got a quarterback 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: that's backup that you know, may not push the ball 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: down the field, and the offense not clicking the way 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: they need to. Man those those the little things, and 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: it's just the little things. That's the frustrating part. Right now, 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: we're two and five, and that's reality. The Hawks are 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: in a weird place right now. They lose three games 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: in a row for the first time, three home games 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: in a row for the first time since nineteen ninety two, 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: three home games in general, it's nineteen ninety two, three 51 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: home games in nine. Yeah, so you remember those you 52 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: guys like two and fourteen. I think we like we 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: were two and fourteen the most. It was the most 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: inept offense in the history of the NFL, still is 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: to today. The last three games they lost by combined 56 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: fifteen points. Fifteen points. So these guys are in these games. 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: You mentioned special teams playing a huge role in this. 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: When you're playing with your backup quarterback, when you have 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: questions on offense and on defense, if you hold a 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: team with thirteen points, should probably be able to bank 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: on your kicker, who was an All Pro at one 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: point Pro bowler making at least two out of three, 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: he went one for three. Jason Myers went one for three. 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: That bit him in the butt right there. And then 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: just the timely penalties right the roughing the passer on 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: Marky's Blair. All this happened on one drive. It was 67 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Marky's Blair roughing the passer. It was Al Woods jumping 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: off false star offside excuse me on a field goal. 69 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: And there was one more? Was there one more play 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and that we were just talking about, not in that 71 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: There's one where DJ Reid had a pass interference, but 72 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: that was earlier on the third night. And again I 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: thought that was a bad call that that that one 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: though they ended up continuing the drive. They came up 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: three yards short on the throw, he caught the ball 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: and they still called pass interference. Yeah, they end up 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown on that drive. Every one of their 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: points came from either a blown rough move or us 79 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: in a penalty. I mean, we could have shut them out. 80 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: If you know, that's playing pretty perfect at that point, Bump. 81 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: You're thinking of the third and ten run by Kamara. 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: There we go on that same draft, up three big 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: players when I drive and now before the game, we 84 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: talked about the Hawks. They got established the run. They 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: gotta run the football. You know what, they did run 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: the football twenty eight times, but only for ninety yards. 87 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Alice Collins had sixteen carris for thirty five yards. And 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: we talked to turbot and postgame and he brought up 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: a good point. He goes, look, yeah he got sixteen carries, 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: but it was like four and then he sits for 91 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: a while, then two, then he sits for a while. 92 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: I think with Rashod Penny getting healthy, they were trying 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: to find out like, okay, what can we get out 94 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: of a shot. At this point, we know what we 95 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: can get out of Alex Collins. Let's try to combine 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: these forces and make something happen. When in hindsight, they 97 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: probably are looking at him and be like, look, we 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: should have took with one guy and just let him go, 99 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: whether he was shot or Alex Collins, give them what 100 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: eight to ten maybe consecutive carries. Well, we got Penny 101 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: on later we can ask him, you know, how does 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: he feel about that? Would you guys rather get the 103 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: ball eight times in a row? And I know some 104 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: guys it's about volume, and they get better with carries, 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, I believe Carson has always been that way. 106 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: You know, he gets stronger as the game goes. I 107 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: think Collins is probably that way also, that he needs 108 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: a bit of a rhythm on there. But you know, 109 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, you're you're calling different plays, You're 110 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: trying to keep backs fresh. You know, you want to 111 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you want to get Penny out in the open space 112 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: with his speed and explosiveness. I mean, remember, there's a 113 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: guy senior year returns seven touchdowns on kickoff returns. He 114 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: was a guy that you know, caught you know, a 115 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: bunch of pat He had six hundred yards I want 116 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: to say, a senior year at San Diego State receiving 117 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, another five or six touchdowns on that on 118 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: top of it. So he's dangerous. So you want to 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: give him that opportunity for the big plays. At the 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: same time, you're trying to get these guys in a rhythm. 121 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: I just think it's tough. You know, anytime you lose, 122 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: you start nitpicking on everything. Let's look at New Orleans. 123 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans ran the ball thirty one times for ninety 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: four yards three point three yards per carry. We ran 125 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: the ball, as you mentioned, twenty eight times for ninety 126 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: yards three point two yards per carry. No one's complaining 127 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: about New Orleans trying to force the run or you know. 128 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean Kamara had twenty carries for fifty one yards 129 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: two point six yards per carry. They got to w 130 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: as you meant that they didn't play well. We should 131 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: have beat them. We didn't. We got to play perfect 132 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: right now. And you know we're gonna play Jacksonville. It's 133 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be an easy game. Yeah, they got one win, 134 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be an easy game. They 135 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: got talent out there. I'm what's concerning for me going 136 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: into this game as the confidence of winning. We've always 137 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: been so good at keeping it to the fourth quarter 138 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: and having a chance to win. And as you mentioned 139 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: the last three games with Russell basically being out two 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: and a half of those, we've had the ball in 141 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: our hand on the final drive to win the game. 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: And to be good too great, you've got to win 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: in the final two minutes of the first half, half 144 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and the second half. I think Gino has been fine 145 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: in between those two minute but you got to shine 146 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: in that moment. Yeah, and I think he's capable of. 147 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a confidence thing. It's taking shots down 148 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: field that I would say, not to be reckless with 149 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the ball, but to take shots down field when there's 150 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity, take shots downfield and make the plays. We 151 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: saw an eighty four yard touchdown from DK Madcap impressive. 152 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Lattimore was on him, stiff arms him, gets him to 153 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: the ground. There's a play on the sideline where a 154 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Lockett could have made a play, I feel like, but 155 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't make that play right through his arms. Right 156 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: through his arms, and you talk about late in the 157 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: game you have to perform. We've seen Gino throwing interception, 158 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: We've seen him from of the rock, and now we've 159 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: seen him take a couple of sacks. So it's it's 160 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: about those pressure situations and he's a backup. He hasn't 161 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: been in those situations in a while. Now, Russell Wilson 162 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: will get in those situations and we expect him to 163 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: come out and be the hero. Sometimes he doesn't, but 164 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: he has so many other instances where he does. It's 165 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: like we kind of overlooked that. You know, Geno's been 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: sitting around for a while, so it's tough for him 167 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: to expect him to win those ball games in those situations. 168 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: But man, you have no choice. But the thing man 169 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: at number three was in there. This team might be 170 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: looking a bit better going into the Bible after this game. Yeah, 171 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: And I always say those aren't excuse, So those are 172 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: just the reasons. I mean, we don't have Russ Wilson, 173 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: you don't have Chris Carson. I thought defensively, we did 174 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: play better. You know, some people want us to play perfect. 175 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: In that situation, we could have shut them out if 176 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: the refs hadn't. Again, to me, it's the jumping out 177 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: fourth down and one. It is two three guys, there 178 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: are a whole right side moves. How do you miss that? 179 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: And again, not an excuse. You're gonna get a fine 180 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: giving you a reason why they got the first down. 181 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: They should have came up fourth and six. Maybe they 182 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: go for it, maybe they don't, maybe they still get it. 183 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And but the third and eight pass interference that was brutal. 184 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: We've got a sack with five minutes left in the game, 185 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna get the ball back, probably around the twenty 186 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: yard line. I'm guessing with five minutes left now, whether 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: we can score, I don't know, but we get off 188 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: the field on a sack, and you know Marquis Blair 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: and Chinese call for I don't know, hitting somebody too 190 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: hard or hitting a quarterback. You know how I feel 191 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: about that. It sounds like this football team is not 192 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: good enough to overcome some of these little mistakes, especially 193 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: late in the game. There's talent on this team, but 194 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: you're missing some guys, you're young in some other areas. 195 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: So to set yourself up when you say perfect football, 196 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: you're we've never seen a perfect game, right, but you're 197 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: talking about Look, you just can't have these little mistakes 198 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: that kind of deter a drive or stop a drive 199 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: or kill momentum. You got to be fundamentally sounding these moments. 200 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: We're not good enough, you know, we're not good enough 201 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: to overcome those things. Everybody said the margin for air 202 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: is really thin for the Seahawks until you get Russell 203 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: back and everybody feels confident, you're hitting on all cylinders, 204 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: you're finding ways to win the game in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 205 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: we're getting there, and that's why the heat and the 206 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: Twitter stuff going on right now is just obscene or 207 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: crazy to me. Right now, all we've ever done is 208 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: one and this year without our starting quarterback, we haven't 209 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: closed the deal and we're two and five. All right, Well, 210 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: let's hope they can close the deal this week against 211 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the one in five Jaguars. We will preview those guys 212 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: next right here on Hawkslide. Welcome to Hawkslide, Welcome back 213 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: to Hawks Live and Michael Pumps with Paul Moyers. Time 214 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: to preview the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are coming off their 215 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: first win of the season. They are now one in five. 216 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: They beat the Miami Dolphins, but before that they lost 217 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: four straight. Now before that win, Moyer, this football club 218 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: lost twenty games in a row. They win three hundred 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: and ninety nine days without a win. They get one 220 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins, but the Week one they lose 221 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to the Texas. Week two, le Broncos, Week three, the Cardinals, 222 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: Week four, the Bengals, Week five, the Tennessee Titans. Not 223 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: a Bass schedule, I mean, the Cardinals, the Bengals. Italians 224 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: are pretty good football teams Denver. Early in the season 225 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: looked like they were gonna be a good football team. 226 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: But they just did something that the team last year 227 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: can't do. The team last year they won Week one 228 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: and then they lost fifteen games in a row. Roll 229 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: that over, like rollover minutes. Back in the day when 230 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: you had to pay for your minutes on cell phones, 231 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: you roll that over. Remember those days, right, I remember 232 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: getting a twelve hundred dollar bills on having a car 233 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: phone back when they first came out in the eighties. 234 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh man, you got crushed back in there. But you look, 235 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: you look who talking on the phone driving your card off. 236 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: If you win them, it was good. So now these 237 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: these Jacksonville Jaguars, then they're not a bad football team, 238 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: especially on offense. On offense, they are the fifteenth ranked 239 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: team overall, averaging three hundred fifty six yards a game 240 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: rush offense, their ten pass offense, their nineteen points per game. 241 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of where they fall to a little bit. 242 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: They are twenty seven. So you can't just look at 243 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: this logo and say, oh, yeah, I remember these guys 244 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: is Jacksonville Jaguars. Right, These are guys who who don't 245 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: win any ball games. Yes, they don't win any ball games, 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: but they got some weapons on offense. You got Trevor Lawrence, 247 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: James Robinson, you got Olaviska China, you have Marvin Jones. 248 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: They have guys who can get it done. And this 249 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: is the NFL moll You can't sleep on nobody. We're 250 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: not the way we're a playing again normally. This is 251 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: a no brainer. We're at home. You know, we beat 252 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: bad teams. I mean that's something we've always done. But 253 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: they're playing better. I mean they should probably should have 254 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: beat Cincinnati. Who's you know now five and two, I 255 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: believe in looking pretty good. You know, Tennessee they got 256 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: they got beat up by you know, a lot of 257 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: teams by Arizona and Tennessee. Tennessee's obviously turned out to 258 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: be pretty good. But they are playing better. I mean, 259 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: they won their last game against Miami. That was we 260 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: got another team coming off a bye week. I think 261 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: New Orleans did the same, so they're gonna be fresh 262 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: and healthy. We're not completely No, there's no gimmes for 263 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: the Seahawks right now. We need to find a way 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: to win a game, though, and things will turn. I mean, 265 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I've I've told the story before. In nineteen eighty six, 266 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: we had lost four games in a row. We all 267 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: sudden we are five and six, and it was a 268 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: black cloud around the facility. Because we are a Super 269 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Bowl contending team. We are at off five and two. 270 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: Now we lost four in a row. Now it's for 271 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: five and six, and I remember Philadelphia came in and 272 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: they weren't very good. We beat him ugly. We had 273 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: a ton of injuries, I mean, all of a sudden, 274 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: we put Kenny easily on injurieserve getting Jeff Bryant, you know, 275 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: a couple of our big defensive guys. But we won 276 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: it ugly. And then we played the next week on 277 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: a short week against the Cowboys and Thanksgiving Day, and 278 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: I remember Chuck Knox just said, you know, we're gonna 279 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: simplify this, guys. We're just gonna go and play football. 280 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: That's all we're doing. We've got the players here, We're 281 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: just gonna go play football. And the rest is history. 282 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: And that we won five games in a row. We 283 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: were unstoppable at the end. Our offense scored on almost 284 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: every possession in the last three or four games of 285 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: the year. Our defense started making plays like crazy, and 286 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: we finished ten and six. But it started with an 287 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: ugly win. And that's what we need in this one. 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't care how it looks. We just need an 289 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: ugly win or a win going to the Y week, 290 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: get healthy. We'll see what happens with Russ And again 291 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: a lot of things change once you get a victory. 292 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Well and Paul hollandbump to your point. So they're playing 293 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: good football, right, You talked about needing an ugly win. 294 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: So the last three weeks to Jagonfield Jaguars obviously won 295 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: their last game, but Arizona they lost thirty one to nineteen, 296 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: but they were up nineteen to seventeen with one twenty 297 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: one in the third quarter. Trevor Lawrence was a bad 298 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: ball pick six. The game turns there. They were playing 299 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: good enough football. Game. They play Cincinnati, who's five and 300 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: two leading the AFC North. They were up twenty four 301 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: excuse me, twenty one to fourteen with fourteen twenty seven 302 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Blue lead in that game. Then 303 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: they go to Tennessee. They end up losing thirty seven 304 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: to nineteen, but they were up fourteen thirteen and second quarter, 305 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: a couple of big plays they got scored out in 306 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: the second half. Then they go ahead and beat Miami. 307 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: So the last four weeks, for last month, they've been 308 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: playing okay football. So again, do it by any means necessary. 309 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: You need to find a way to win ugly because 310 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: this team is confident. They're coming off a bye, so 311 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean they're playing good football right now. What do 312 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: you just said? Was Pete Carroll's motto is gonna work? 313 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: You can win the game in the fourth quarter again. 314 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: You can be down first, second, third quarter, that fourth 315 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: quarter you can get it done. And that's the quarter 316 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: that's been kind of hurting these guys. Right you have 317 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: opportunities to win the ball game, and they're just not 318 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: able to do it. I look at this offense and 319 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: I see James Robinson. This dude can run the rock. 320 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's slippery, he has good feet. I look 321 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: at the offensive line player I broke down a couple 322 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: of plays on film session. I mean, these guys, they're 323 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: running their counters beautifully. Everyone's getting to the right spot. 324 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: So I can see to NASA's point that at times 325 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: they're playing really good football. They're they're a team. And 326 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: I'll call them Seattle Seahawks too, because they have so 327 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: many former Seahawks coaches players. We'll go through some of them. 328 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: It's probably close to a dozen. When you pull all 329 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: the coaches in there and personnel. I mean, it's it's 330 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. But this is a team. If we're gonna 331 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: play a team right now, you want to play a 332 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: team that's not very good on defense but a little 333 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: bit better on offense, because I without Russell, our offensive struggling. 334 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's you want to have a team 335 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: they only have eight sacks, they have two interceptions. They're 336 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: thirtieth in the league. Defensively, we're no longer thirty second, 337 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: we're thirty first, and we are playing better. I think 338 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: we'll be fine. You know, have not having them score 339 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: a lot of points on us. There's gonna be some 340 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: opportunities for us to score in this game. There are 341 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: going to be some opportunities. We've got to make them. 342 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta make every catch you mentioned earlier, 343 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: you Tyler Lockett on that one went right through his arms. 344 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: It was a really good throw by Gino. And that 345 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: was I believe that was in the first half or 346 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: first quarter. I think I remember missing a field goal. 347 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: I think on that drive though, and I was thinking, Wow, 348 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: if we caught that ball, we'd probably kick the field, 349 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: go make it or score a touchdown. There's so many 350 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: of those plays going on. So I just think, look, 351 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: if we're gonna play a team. This is the one, 352 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: a team that's struggling defensively doing okay between the twenties. Offensively, 353 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: you got to quarterback who's thrown eight interceptions. You know 354 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: he's a rookie. He's had seven touchdowns, so you probably 355 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: conbat him into some throws. He's a talented guy though. 356 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: He's ran the ball for one hundred and sixty some 357 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: yards year to eight. I think our making one hundred 358 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: and twenty one, so he's gonna run. He's averaging over 359 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: four yards per carry, so he's mobile. You know, we're 360 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to play well to beat. We're gonna to 361 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: play well to beat anybody, anybody. Yeah, does this mean 362 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: anything to you? Bevil? We all know Bevill on Wyman 363 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: and Bob Show earlier they crowned him the best offensive 364 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: coordinator during Pete Carroll's tenure. Here, numbers don't lie. You 365 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: got him as an OC, You got Shoddy as a 366 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: QBM pass game coordinator. He have Nick Sorenson, who's a 367 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: special team guy. He was here as well Sonjay Law, 368 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: who helped our receivers. He's over there now. Player wise, 369 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: you got Shot Griffin, got Carlos, you have Jacob Pollister all, 370 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: that's uh, I don't know whatever. And I think he 371 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: had Schneider at one point over there too. The special 372 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: team coach Brian don't. I don't think he's still I 373 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: don't know what there, but he was over there also. 374 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: So it is amazing how many former Seahawks that they've 375 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: they've grabbed. I don't know if that means a whole 376 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: lot to us. I think that certainly Bevil and Shoddy 377 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: are going to be hyper focused on this. They want 378 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: they want to have a great game. I think once 379 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: the game starts, it doesn't matter. They're not going to 380 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: know a bunch about us statistically defensively, it's not gonna help. Actually, 381 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: I think it'll help us. Pete knowing Shoddy and Bevil's that, 382 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: you know what they like to do. I think it's 383 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: actually an advantage for the Seahawks going into this game. Hey, 384 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: whatever advantage we can get, I will take it. Okay, 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: when we return, we're gonna talk to running back Rashad Penny. 386 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: That's next on Hawks Love. Welcome back to Hawks Live 387 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: every Thursday, seven to nine pm. Right here, you'll hear 388 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: me and my guy Paul Moyer. And now we get 389 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: to speak to running back Rashad Penny. Rashad was good man, 390 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: how you doing, Hey, we're good man. First, I want 391 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: to show you some Cali love. You're from Norwalk, I'm 392 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: from Culver City just west of you. Paul Moyer is 393 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: from the OC. So it's a Cally connection here. Man. 394 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: It's all love. Oh yeah, most definitely. Hey man, So 395 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: you battled some injuries since you've been in the league, 396 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, and at St. Nichola say, I don't think 397 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: you had an injury, but you fall back to get 398 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: back on the field. Man, how good was it to 399 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: be out there with your boys last week? Um? You know, 400 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: definitely a you know, a blessing. I mean, you know, 401 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: go out there and take the field with you know, 402 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: guys you've been around for so long, and you know, 403 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: awesome meeting new guys. I mean, but you know, it 404 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: was just it was just fun. It was a blessing. 405 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I just wanted to say 406 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: that way I feel you man. I you know, I 407 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: had a couple of injuries in my day and when 408 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: I got on the football field, it was kind of 409 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: hard to trust my body, you know. I had a 410 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: fifth metatortial break in my foot, so I couldn't put 411 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: my left foot in the ground the way that I 412 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: wanted to. Have you experienced any of that, and if so, 413 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: where do you go mentally to kind of overcome that? Well, 414 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know, every I think every session you 415 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: know that I had, you know, as far as we have, 416 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: I had Gods tell me though, you know, you find 417 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: you know you you uh, you know your leg is 418 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: stronger than they've ever been. So I mean I really 419 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: never had a problem mentally as far as like you know, um, 420 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: the whole aspect of putting my foot in the ground. 421 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Like you know, I think doctor Eltros and you know, 422 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: the guys in that LA done an amazing job that 423 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: you know to repair the my knee and you know, 424 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: make sure that I can come back and play football 425 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: at a high level. And then you know, coming out 426 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: heard the Seattle to work with you know, the training 427 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: staff and made things even much better. So you know, uh, 428 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta be grateful and thankful for 429 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the people that you know putting so much time to 430 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: work with two So and that's who I am. You 431 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: were shot when't you maybe compare your senior year just 432 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: physically where you were speedwise sidewise, and then where you 433 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: are now. Because one thing that's interesting when you I 434 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: look at your statistics in the NFL, I mean, you're 435 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: averaging five point one yards per carry through your career. 436 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really just about being on the field 437 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: for you. But just now take us through the injuries 438 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: pair of seventeen when you were coming out of a 439 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: college to where you are today physically. Well, the crazy 440 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: thing is personally, I think I'm I'm way more developed 441 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: back than what I have been, you know in the past. 442 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm um, I think I just I just 443 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: think knowing ball down. I mean, you know San Diego State, 444 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: you know I had a great run there, But I 445 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: mean now I just think I'm a natural running back 446 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: and I know the game now. But you know, the 447 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: injuries played a big role. And it's crazy to me 448 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I say injuries and I only really 449 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: had one major one, you know, and you know, of 450 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: course I mess time with stains. But um, you know, 451 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: I knew surgery really set me back as far as 452 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: you know, just my whole body. So I had to 453 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: refocus this offseason and you know, just know my body again. 454 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm in the best shape that I've ever 455 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: been in. You know, um, definitely as little rusty as 456 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: far as you know, um, you know, making cuts. But 457 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: you know that's because I mean, I feel great. You know, 458 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: I've just got to get back to the game flow. 459 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: And once I get back to that, I think I 460 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: can get back to the forum I was before I 461 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: got hurt. So talk about that. The one thing that 462 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: we've noticed is sometimes, you know, Alex is out there, 463 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: You're out there for a couple of snaps. What do 464 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: you prefer? Are you a guy that needs twenty carries? 465 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: Do you need it? You know, eight ten snaps in 466 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: a row? Are you okay alternating? I mean yeah, I 467 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: mean that's at the point I'm at. You know, I'm 468 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm fine with whatever. I'm just trying to help, you know, 469 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: win games right now, and you know, just keep doing 470 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: the right thing and progressing every week, you know, being patient. 471 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: That's one thing that I've done. You know, at San 472 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Diego State for three years, I was very patient. I 473 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: mean at the all time leader rusher in front of me, 474 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: So you know, it was fine with me until I 475 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: get a real, the real opportunity, and you know, I'm 476 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: just just playing a role and you know, just waiting. 477 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: But I think the whole thing is just winning ball 478 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: games right now, I feel that all about the w Now, 479 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: tell me about this running back room. Man, it's been 480 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: a fierce competition. I feel like the media. I guess 481 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm part of the media, but I don't try to 482 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: pin you guys to get each other. But there's a 483 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: lot of competition. You got Chris Carson, DJ Dallas, Travis Homer, 484 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: Alex Collins. What's it like in that running back room 485 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: and argue guys a close group? I think, yeah, I 486 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: think we definitely approached the closest group on the team. 487 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: You know, Chrisy obviously like the big brother. You know, 488 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: he older, and you know he uh, you know, he's 489 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: the guy, and you know it's just the rest of us. 490 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think we're the closest group on 491 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: the team as far as like really knowing each other, 492 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: and you know, he's always having conversations. I think, Uh, 493 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: I think we really have a special dude. We got 494 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that can do a lot of 495 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: certain things, you know, and we all got different run style. 496 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: So I think that's the cool thing. So like when 497 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: we watching each other. We always be like, man, that's cool, 498 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: like like a Dane, that's a good move of our 499 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: private Like Dan, you on size right here, you know, Son, 500 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: So I think it's cool. And then adding Josh in there. 501 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: You know, Josh's you know, on key role too. You know, 502 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: even though you know he probably don't get as much credit, 503 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: but Josh is a really great running back and you know, 504 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him run one day. So 505 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, we all got different elements to our game, 506 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: and you know we're pretty sprett cool. We all get 507 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: together and you know we talked you know, outside the 508 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: ball as well, So I mean, you know, it's a 509 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: really good connected group. You got an older brother playing 510 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: football also, Elijah with the Giants. To talk about that relationship. 511 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, two running backs in the same family in 512 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, that's pretty rare. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Elijah. Man, 513 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, my brother, he's always been a hard worker. 514 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, he always worked harder than the next man. 515 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: And you know he's been doing that since we've been kids, 516 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, and growing up not playing football and playing 517 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: like ten years of baseball. You know, it's kind of 518 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: crazy for us. So you know, when he started my 519 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: oldest brother, Robert, which he started playing football first, and 520 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: then Elijah followed, and then after that I followed them. So, 521 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean we all started playing ball in high school. 522 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: So ever since in high school, I watched Elijah playing. 523 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's always just been like a chip on 524 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: your shoulder, and you know, him going that, you know, 525 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Fresno and then going back to Idaho, I mean Toritos 526 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: and then the Idaho You know, I watched them his 527 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: whole life, and you know, it's just always I've always 528 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: appreciated him, and you know, I always looked up to 529 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: him as you know, the guy. Yet today so you know, 530 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: I think he's doing amazing in New York. And I'm 531 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: actually really excited, like literally watching every chance I get, 532 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, to see what he's doing. And you know, 533 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: it's always a family competition. When we got four boys, 534 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's pretty cool. You mentioned 535 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: having a chip on your shoulder. I feel like that's 536 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: the mindset of this football team right now. You guys 537 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: are two and five US three games for the first 538 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: time since twenty eleven. What's the mindset? What's your approach 539 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: this week? How do you guys get right in and 540 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: get back to you winning ways against the Jack's um. 541 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: This is the one week at a time. You know, 542 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: really no panic, you know, I think it's just you know, 543 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: just one of them is one of them times right now. 544 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: But there's really no panic. I mean, just one game 545 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: at a time and just let's just go out there 546 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: and see just just tack wins on wins, and you know, 547 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: I think I think, uh, we're definitely confident in what 548 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: we can do. You know. You know, it's a long season, 549 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: still got team games left. You know, I know people 550 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: have seen it before as far as teams going on 551 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: the team game win streak, you know, or anything. But 552 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: you just take it one week at a time and 553 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, they come, I'll come a soo, let's uh, 554 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: let's switch a little bit from football. When you're not 555 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: playing football or at the facility, what do you like 556 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: to do to keep you busy away from football? Yeah, 557 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lot to do, oh Like 558 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: as far as being away like all day yeah, just yeah, 559 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: just any time you're away from the vMac and just 560 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: your your your free time. What do you what do 561 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: you enjoy doing? I Mean, I'm a gamer, so I 562 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: play a lot of video games. You know, I usually 563 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: occupy myself are you know, are either waking basketball always 564 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: just keeping myself involved in you know, uh sports, you know, 565 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: a big movie person. So yeah, all right, so I'm 566 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna one more on top of that. What's 567 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: the one thing nobody knows about Rashad Penny and one thing? 568 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: You know? That's a hard question. I feel like everything 569 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: everybody know anything about me, but social media nowadays everybody 570 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: probably does. But man, well, I mean, but you know, uh, 571 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but I definitely like to read. 572 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: I read a lot of books. I don't think a 573 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: lot of people know that about me, but yeah, I 574 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: usually started I started reading a lot of books, um 575 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: like a few years ago when I tore my inkfield. 576 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: So I've been doing a lot of uh um reading. 577 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: And I'm reading the book actually called master mindset by 578 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: by Colin Henderson. I mean that one thing I'm doing, 579 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, just you always join the same motivated, you know, 580 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: for myself. So Colin Colin Henderson, we actually went to 581 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: wall Zoo. Colin Henderson. He's a cool he's a good Yeah. Hey, hey, 582 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: last one Rashod before you get you out of here. 583 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I assume you're a Laker fan, right, yeah, we definitely 584 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, man, what do you think about the thirty 585 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: five and up club we got for the Lakers? We're 586 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna figure this thing out or what? Yeah? I mean, 587 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: you know it's early, early right now, it's early right now. 588 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: You can't can't judge. You can't judge the team. You know, 589 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: five games and you know they showing they should they 590 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: show what they can do and then know they have 591 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: the ups and down last night. I was really upset, 592 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, with outcome, but early, so I'm not really 593 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: worried about it. All right, you heard it from Penny. 594 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: It's early, man, and you have a good week. You guys, 595 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: go get it done this weekend. I appreciate it. Thank you, 596 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: all right, man, have a good night. That was nice, 597 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: all right, that was Rashad Penny. Man. You know what, 598 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and say, he's gonna have two 599 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: big runs this weekend, two big runs one of ten 600 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: plus one of fifteen plus. Is it because he was 601 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: on our show or because of how he showed his 602 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: confidence on the show? Both? Yeah, I was. I was 603 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: impressed with I just I really liked listening to him 604 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: and you know, look, he's taken some some adversity and 605 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: you know social media nowadays, but I need to everybody 606 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: remember this. There's a reason why we draft him when 607 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: we did. I mean, the man was unbelievable in college. 608 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: He can run. He's averaging five point one yards per 609 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: carry in his NFL career. We just gotta keep him 610 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: on the field. And I mean, that's that's the big one. 611 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Because the talent is there. Yep, it is there. Okay, 612 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: you know who's gonna be here when we returned. John 613 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Clayton the Professor joins us next right here on Hawks Live. 614 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: Hawks Live is seven or forty five. You know, we 615 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: gotta do we gotta highlight J C. John Clayton, the Professor. 616 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: John went up, what's going on? You know we're sitting 617 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: here and join some Thursday night football man. The Green 618 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: Bay Packers of seventeen to fourteen. I did not expect that. 619 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: I thought the Cardinals will kind of run away with this. 620 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: But I guess you can't. Can't doubt Aaron Rodgers. Huh No, 621 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: you can't. Well, it's not a matter of just Aaron Rodgers. 622 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: It's a batter that the Packers are playing up to 623 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: a higher level. The defense has done an amazing job 624 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: of trying to contain Kyler Murray. Sure, they gave up 625 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: the long pass to Hopkins, but then Hopkins ends up 626 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: getting his hamstring reinjured and he misses a good portion 627 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: pretty much all the way to the third quarter to 628 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: come back, and so he hasn't been the same. Kyler 629 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Murray hasn't been as consistent getting the ball. And then 630 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, you look overall and you see the Packers 631 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: are running the ball. Well, the fact that their defense 632 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: is putting pressure on Kyler Murray, I mean, they've done 633 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: an amazing job and if they can pull this one off, 634 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: that's a great win. As many players as they're down, 635 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean they're down their top three wide receivers, I 636 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: mean they're down two starters on the offensive line, and 637 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: nevertheless they're out there battle and have the lead. Yeah, John, 638 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 1: I going into this game, I was thinking, Okay, if 639 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals can pull this one off, and I've already 640 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: believe in their talent, but they would be solidified. You 641 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: beat Aaron Rodgers on prime is this is Thursday considered 642 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: primetime football? Yes? Yeah, you beat him on primetime? Your 643 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: kids go. But let's shift over to the Seattle Seahawks. 644 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Do you think Ethan Postic will replace Kyle Fuller at 645 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: center this week? Kyle is No, they'll alternate, But I 646 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: think what I'll end up happening is that whether it's 647 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: going to be a game or the Green Bay game, 648 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: is going to be best man wins. And it's kind 649 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: of like the Trey Brown situation with Sidney Jones and 650 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: all that. It's like, Okay, let's alternate them until we 651 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: figure out who is the better player, and then once 652 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: we figure out who the better player is at that 653 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: time of the season, then that guy will start. So 654 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: thinks either smiths so much time that I think you 655 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: just can't just automatically give him the job. That's why 656 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: he's going to rotate in there. But if his rotation 657 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: is going to be better than Kyle Fuller, and you 658 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: think there's a chance there might be, then by green 659 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: Bay he could get the art. You know, one player 660 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: that's it's a bit of a concern if particularly we 661 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: start dealing with concussions. As Dwayne Eskridge, what's the latest, 662 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: what's going on there? I know he's gone to a 663 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: couple of places for some specialists. Yeah, he went down 664 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: to Florida and he went to a specialist, you know, 665 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: both to see his concussions and also his eyes, because 666 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: apparently his eyes were giving him problems. And of course 667 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I guess that the things kind of cleared up with 668 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: his eyes and the concussions, you know, the other day. 669 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: So he flew back on Wednesday, and so he's back 670 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: here in town, and so you know, he's going to practice. 671 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: I think a little bit, but I doubt very much 672 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be able to play this week. But 673 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: I think what you're looking at, and he seemed to 674 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: be encouraged from what they see, he may be available 675 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay game. John, there's a lot of 676 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: familiarity between these two teams. He got bevil as the 677 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: oc have Shoddy as the passing game coordinator, got Griffin, 678 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: you got Hollister, you got Carlos Hyde. Who has the 679 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: advantage or disadvantage in this situation, Well, I mean Seattle 680 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: because they're a better team. I mean, Jacksonville is one 681 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: of the worst teams in football. I know. Daniel Jeremiah 682 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: of the NFL network, you know, came out and said 683 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: he thinks with Russell Wilson down that the Jaguars have 684 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: better talent, and I say, pooh pooh on that thought. 685 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta be kidding me, yeah, because I 686 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: was just looking at it, and uh like, for example, 687 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: here's a Jaguars team that has nothing other than you know, 688 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: Shaquille Griffin on defense. That's all they really have, Okay, 689 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: and so it's like nothing on defense, and so say 690 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: what you want about Seattle. I know the defense has 691 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: been off and on and sometimes terrible this year, but 692 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: at least they have some talent. The Jaguars don't have 693 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: any talent on defense, and so you know, you take 694 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: that into account, and that should be at least better 695 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: for Geno Smith, better for the running game, better for 696 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and uh, you know, and certainly, I 697 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: mean there's a familiarity, but again, you know, Carlos hides 698 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: a backup. I mean, you know, Bevel and Brian Schottenheimer. 699 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: They're working with some pretty good couple of good players 700 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: because Trevor Lawrence is really talented. But you look at 701 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: their receiving corps, there's not a lot left there because 702 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, DJ Chalk has been uh you know, knocked 703 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: off for the season. And uh you know they have 704 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, only one really good wide receiver and they're 705 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: shaky at the tight end position. So in the end, 706 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean there's a big advantage for Seattle that they 707 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: should be able to win reasonably easy. But then, like 708 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: anything else, as we're seeing, nothing is reasonably easy in 709 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: the National Football League, John Nathan, I mean Marquis Blair's 710 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: is out. I mean, that's it's just again crushing a 711 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: weird injury. Any roster moves for the Seahawks on that one, 712 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: they might, because again Tuesday is a trade deadline. But 713 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think that uh, you know, maybe they 714 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: find a way to get another safety or two, but 715 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: or another slot cornerback or whatever. I think they're happy 716 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: with Ugo Amadi. You know that seems to be encouraging certainly. 717 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Neil, I think you know what it comes down to. 718 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: I think, Ryan Neil, you know, present anything big from happening, 719 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: because you know, he's only been out there and when 720 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: he goes seven defensive backs and that's only like, you know, 721 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: maybe fourteen fifteen plays a game, and so you know, 722 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: the times that he's out there, he plays really well. 723 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: So I think that you know, he needs more playing 724 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: time too, So I don't think there's any big moves 725 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: coming up in the safety position. Speaking of a trade 726 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: deadline again, this is another weird one to me. Is 727 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: there any chance DeShawn Watson gets traded before the trade 728 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: dead I doubt it. I mean, it can happen. It 729 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: sounds like Houston and Miami have reached somewhat of a 730 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: draft choice settlement. But if Miami holds to what they 731 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: want for DeShawn Watson to settle is twenty two lawsuits 732 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: between now and Tuesday. There's no way that's going to happen. 733 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's twenty two lawsuits. I mean, 734 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: even let's put it this way. Let's let's say that 735 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: he puts a solid offer of big money to all 736 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: twenty two. There's not even enough time to sign the paperwork. Hey, John, 737 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins say, you know what, don't ask me any 738 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: more questions about the USC job made it clear. Do 739 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: you think schools like USC and LSU will be able 740 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: to lure a NFL coach to the college ranks. Do 741 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: you think that they need to just develop a guy 742 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: within or promote a guy who's already in Well, they 743 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: can develop a guy. But the problem is it's not 744 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: going to be one of the good guys in the league. 745 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be somebody that's on the 746 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: verge you're getting fired, or somebody who gets fired more 747 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: than anything else, because you're not going to see the 748 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean Payton's, Bill Belichick's, Mike Thomins and guys 749 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: like that, you know, leave for a job at USC, 750 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, knowing that, you know, they're all making over 751 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: eight nine million dollars a year and they're not going 752 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: to get that kind of money from USC. I mean, 753 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: USC is gonna be lucky to pay two or three million, 754 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: you know, So, I mean they can certainly if they 755 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: want to dig deeper in their pocket, but you're still 756 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: going to come out for half the price of what 757 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: you get as an NFL head coach. And if you're 758 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: an NFL head coach with established successes, I mean, you're 759 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: not going to go to college with the transfer portal, 760 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: with all the issues right now, with sponsorships, you know, 761 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: they recruiting issues, those those different things. It's too much 762 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: of a headache. And again it's like it's easier to 763 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: sit here in the National Football League. You winning and 764 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: doing the best job you can. Yeah, I thought that 765 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: was kind of crazy. People would even throw out Tomlin 766 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: on that. So let me let me get this right. 767 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: I can make less money, pay higher taxes by going 768 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: to California. I gotta deal with young kids who want 769 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: to make a transfer, all that stuff. I just I 770 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: don't see that. Yeah, yeah, you think about it in college. 771 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, So, I mean, obviously the Steelers are 772 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: getting criticized for staying with Ben Roethlisberger, right, and again 773 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: they should have because that's their only chance of winning 774 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: this year. And we'll see where it goes next year, 775 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: because I think this is his last year and they'll 776 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: have to find a replacement for him. But it's like, 777 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, if you're Mike Tomlin and you go to 778 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: USC and let's say that you recruit two or three 779 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, two of them are going to leave in 780 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: a year or two if they're not starting. John, is 781 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: that time? What's on your mind? Professor? You know, I've 782 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: been looking at this and I don't have the exact 783 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: number today. I know I had it last week, but kickers, 784 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: and I know this irritates Dave Wyman because he's not 785 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: big on kickers. Paul, You're probably not big on kickers either. 786 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: You're a little bit more amenable than Dave Wyman is. 787 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: But I counted up. There's like, I've been about sixteen 788 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: changes in kickers this year, either because of bad performances 789 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: or injury. Have the leak has changed? And I know 790 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: that Jason Myers has taken to criticisms for a three 791 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: missed extra three miss extra field goals his mixed extra points. 792 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: But I mean you look around the league and it's 793 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: not like the percentages are that much worse. But again, 794 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: what's happening is there's such a turnover right now with 795 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: the kicker position. I've never seen anything like this. So 796 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying, John, is all you kids out there listening, 797 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: learn to kick a football. You might have a job 798 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: here pretty I mean again, it's like I just learn 799 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: how to kick because if you can do it, I mean, 800 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: you can get an opportunity. Look at all the people 801 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: getting opportunities. If you have sixteen changes, sixteen plus players 802 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: have now got more chances to get in there and 803 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: kick boom. You heard of first kids kick the ball, John, 804 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: or snap or snap it. Appreciate you man. Thanks John, 805 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: thank you. All right, Now we're going. Okay, when we return, 806 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: we will talk that talk. Is Russell Wilson replaceable? How 807 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: much will Shane Waldron grow this year? And will a 808 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: ten win team make the playoffs? Me and Maria will 809 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: talk about that next on Hawks Live. It's time to 810 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer on 811 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: Hawks Live. Time to talk that talk. Whatever you say, 812 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: Moyers say with your chest. Okay, want me to start? 813 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: Do you want to stuff? Well? I why don't you 814 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: ask the question? And now? Yeah, that's all right. Do 815 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: you want me to ask the question? The first question? 816 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: Are you want too? Yeah, we talked about that in 817 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: the break. Okay, the script, but he's saying, stick to 818 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: the script. All right, here's my question for you, Morier. 819 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the most irreplaceable quarterback in the NFL. So, 820 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: in other words, by the definition, he is the most 821 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: viable player to his football team across the league. He 822 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: is a couple of reasons why. One we're finding out 823 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: right now what it's like without him. But I think 824 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: the biggest reason why is it's what he does in 825 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: the final two minute to the half and at the 826 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: end of the game. And it's the way our philosophy is. 827 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: In a game, we don't blow a lot of teams out, 828 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're not taking those chances along the way 829 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: where it maybe a backup quarterback coming and do some 830 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: things as well. So you've got to have a quarterback 831 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: who can close a deal on this team, and Russell's 832 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: the best in the business. He's proven that. Look, there's 833 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, there's Tom Brady. You lose your starting stud quarterback, 834 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: they're all going to take a hit. But I truly 835 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: believe there's no more important person at quarterback for a 836 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: team than Russell Wilson to the Seattle Seahawks, I feel 837 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I'm gonna go with the obvious. 838 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, it's Tom Brady, and I'm gonna 839 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: say no because of who's behind him, Blaine Gabbert, Ryan Griffin, 840 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Trask. If Tom Brady goes out, even with all 841 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: the weapons that they have on offense, I don't see 842 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: this team doing what they're doing. Tom Brady is twenty 843 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: one touchdowns, three interceptions, twenty two hundred yards. I mean, 844 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: this guy is doing it all at his age I 845 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: think if you put any other quarterback in there, any 846 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: other backup, they don't even have the chance at the 847 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: end of the game to win like the Hawks have had. 848 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: A Yeah, i'd push back on that. Do you think 849 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: their roster is better than the Seahawk roster? That's a 850 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: good question. Let me look at it real quick. Alright, 851 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: So when we talk about these stats, let's go start 852 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: at the running back position. Leonard Fournette, Ronald Jones. I'll 853 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: take Chris Carson over both those guys. Healthy Chris Carson, right, 854 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: healthy Chris Carson, all right, I take him. All right, 855 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: you got Chris Godwin, Mike Evans. That's a nice one 856 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 1: two punch right there. I think that one two punch 857 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: is just as good as the Seahawks one two punch. Defensively, 858 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: Devin White, really good linebacker, Lavonte David another really good linebacker. 859 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: You know what, I'd probably take their roster. Well, let 860 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: me look at the defense, because their ranked ninth defensively 861 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: right now, they're ranked number one rushing yards a game, 862 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,479 Speaker 1: they're number three in rushing yards average. Offensively, their ranked 863 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: number two in the league, their number six when it 864 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: comes to total yards passing. They're seven. Sorry, gonna get 865 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: my rushing average Russian average there. They're seventeen. Nothing great, 866 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: still a little bit higher than ours. I believe are 867 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: right around the same. I just think they have a 868 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: better nucleus. I think if you put a serviceable quarterback there, 869 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: they haven't had to all the free agents that they 870 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: came from a losing team and picks. They're just in 871 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: a better position to win with. I don't think a 872 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: great quarterback the Seahawks. We haven't had a losing record 873 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: in ten years. We haven't drafted in the top fifteen. 874 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have the same type of team 875 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: as others do. So that's my point. Russell is winning. 876 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: He can win with any team. You know what I 877 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: say to that argument? One zero, Moawyer, Oh you got 878 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: that one. I'll give it out one. That's the first 879 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: time you've ever done Now, hey, you did a once. 880 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: I did a once, all right with the Seahawks two 881 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: and five and we now have a seventeen game schedule. 882 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: Will a ten win team make the playoffs in twenty 883 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: twenty one because it almost always does in the past. Yeah, 884 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it is. I think 885 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: we've seen nine win teams make it with the sixteen 886 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: game schedule. I don't know the numbers. I haven't looked 887 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: across the league and say, well, this team is here, 888 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: and if you according to my calculations, if through this 889 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: week more. I don't do those things, okay. I'm just 890 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: gonna keep the simple math and say, okay, let a 891 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: sixteen game. A nine win team got in seventeen means, 892 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: of course a ten win team is gonna get in 893 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I don't think so this year, because it is. 894 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: It's a bit like a nine win team, and it happens. 895 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 1: There's at times there's eight win teams, but it's usually 896 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: from a division, not a wildcard team. I'm just looking 897 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: right now, it's what we have. Let me let me 898 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: pull up the actual play off piece where the Seahawks 899 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: are the seaff I forget the Seahawks. We'll just say 900 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: ten wins. Right now, New Orleans is at four and 901 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: two and they're the sixth spot in that playoff deal. 902 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: You also got Minnesota three and three. It's tight. Ten 903 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: wins could do it, but you got the Rams who 904 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: are six and one, Cowboys five one, Green Bay six 905 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: and one, Tampa Bay six and one, Arizona seven and oh, 906 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna go probably to seven and one. 907 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay's gonna go to seven and one. Tampa Bay 908 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: is gonna probably win. They're gonna go to seven and one. 909 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: I still think it's gonna take eleven wins, which means 910 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks can win lose one more game, one more game. 911 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: That's why this week's critical. We got the bye week. 912 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: I'm looking what's out there. We're gonna have to go 913 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: crazy Arizona twice. Now in your case, they could lose twice. Yeah, 914 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. We're gonna have to go on 915 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: a run, no matter what. Let's go hold on a minute. 916 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys, you guys are both wrong because 917 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: in nine and eight team will make the playoffs. No, 918 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: it's the haves and the haves not so, I'm telling 919 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: you all right after the top six without seventh seed. 920 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: But Minnesota is a sevent seed right now and they're 921 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: three and three. I'm telling you, I think it's not 922 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: crazy to think a nine and eight team makes the 923 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: playoffs in the NFC. We will revisit this in week 924 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: seventeen if a ninety eight team does not make the 925 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: playoffs that it's been deleted. Drinks on that if a 926 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: nine and eighteen does. It makes a good point that 927 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: has and have not. There's a lot of the one 928 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: loss teams in the NFC. And he's right. I mean, 929 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: if we had a one last week, we would have 930 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: been one game back in the playoff hunt. Now we're two. 931 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough for us. I think that's been persuaded. 932 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: You've been persuaded. I still think it's gonna be eleven. 933 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: But Nasha made me question myself. Okay, all right, my 934 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: question to you, Shane Waldron will be a better coach 935 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the year because of Russell Wilson 936 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: was injured. I think the answers yes to that, And 937 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: partly is the pressure for him right now without Russell 938 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: and you know, to make the right calls and working 939 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: with Pete on finding ways to win again. All I 940 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: ever hear is statistics. We we gotta run the ball more, 941 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: we gotta throw the ball more. I didn't like that call. 942 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: I didn't like this call, Shan Okay, to me, it's 943 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: a joke. You don't go in the game thinking how 944 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: can we find a way to get four hundred yards 945 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: of total offense. Maybe we gotta find a way to 946 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 1: get to twenty points or seventeen. Our defense can shut 947 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: these guys down. We can't turn the ball over. We 948 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: gotta make sure that we play some field position in punt. 949 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: All everybody else sees is, oh, here we go, we're 950 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: punting again. Well, you know what, that may be the 951 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: best way at times to win a game. So I 952 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be better for going through this adversity 953 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: and then he gets Russell back. I just hope we 954 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: start hitting on all cylinders. So we talked about Penny. 955 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, I hope he bust one for sixty yards 956 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: and twenty yards and all of sudden his chest starts 957 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: to pop up. So so I see say yes, say yes, 958 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: I say, of course he is. You should get better 959 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: during hard times. You're working with a different caliber type 960 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: of quarterback. It's forcing you to be more creative or 961 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: more thoughtful when he comes to your play calling. You 962 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: don't have your running back. Is why I know we're 963 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: focusing on Russell Wilson, but you also don't have your 964 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: starting running back. I mean, the game is harder, so 965 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: you have to adjust as a coach. What did Pete 966 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: Carroll say, Man, I've been here for a long time 967 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: because I've had Russell for a long time. If Pete 968 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: Carroll un doesn't have Russell Wilson, he's probably not here 969 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: ten years. So with Shane Waldron not having the best 970 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: quarterback and franchise history, yeah, would you agree to that? Yeah, 971 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: best quarterback and franchise history. Oh yeah, of course he's 972 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be better because he's had to adjust 973 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: his play calling. He wasn't going into the season thinking 974 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: the guy who played one hundred and what forty something 975 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: consecutive games? Now, yeah, it's a lot. I think it's 976 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: I think it's more than that. I think it's one 977 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: forty five at least. So of course he didn't go 978 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: into the season thing he wasn't gonna have that guy, 979 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: so he has to adjust. Waldron will be a better 980 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: coach because of this. All right. By the way, every 981 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: head coach other than one that I know of, would 982 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: have been fired a long time ago. Bill Belichick would 983 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: have been fired a long time ago. If no Tom Brady, 984 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 1: the list goes on. Now there's only one head coach, 985 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: and it's Joe Gibbs, who won with three different quarterbacks, 986 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know if any of them are. I 987 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: don't think any of them are in the Hall of Fame. 988 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: That is impressive. Everybody else has had to have, from 989 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh to Pittsburgh's Dynasty Run to the Cowboys, they've 990 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: all had that great Hall of Fame quarterback. There you go. 991 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: One hundred forty nine games consecutive is what Russell wasn't 992 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: played in Okay when we were returning. We'll go inside 993 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: the film room. Gino Smith eighty four yard touchdown, the 994 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: DK he got, Jordan Brooks saving a touchdown, and Jamis 995 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: Winston doing what he does finding Alvin Kamar. That is 996 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: next right here on Hawks Lock Hawks Live. We all 997 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 1: the Way Live on Thursday seventh to nine pm. Thanks 998 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: for joining us. As time to go inside the film room. 999 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: Moyer and I watch a lot of film. I man 1000 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: after and playing. I mean, the eye and the sky 1001 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: never lies for the most part, unless you just don't 1002 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: know what you're looking at. And sometimes we just don't 1003 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: know what these guys are doing on offense or on 1004 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: defense because we're not in the in the coaching room 1005 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: with them. We can only go off on our experiences. 1006 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: But I like to say better more than not. We're right. Well, 1007 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: I we make assumptions. I mean there's times where I 1008 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: look at a defense and I go, they playing zone 1009 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: there and man there, and that's possible. But it looks 1010 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: sometimes like maybe someone's drop something. Yeah, So now we're right. 1011 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: We are okay, always right, always right, all right. The 1012 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: first play we're gonna dissect. Geno Smith finds DK Metcalf 1013 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: for an eighty four yard touchdown. Play fake this time, 1014 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna let it fly down. Feel reaching out faking 1015 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: a catch mat Calf he could golf forty thirty twenty 1016 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: five touchdown Stay Hawks eighty four yards. A defender fell 1017 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: down and Geo Smith row shut to number fourteen down 1018 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: the right sidelines. He jumps, makes it catch. Nobody is staring, 1019 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: and he was off to the racist like the Olyptic 1020 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: sprint trials. He's downfield, speeding al Antimore for six, the 1021 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks on top six nothing. Now, I think Geno 1022 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: knew where he was going the whole time. He goes, look, man, 1023 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,919 Speaker 1: that looks like man coverage on the outside. To my boy, Dk. 1024 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: The safety started at it kind of a two high. 1025 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: Luck they rotate safety comes down of the safety, rolls 1026 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: to the middle of the field. Looks like the second level. 1027 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 1: They're sharing the backers. So if Alice Collins were to 1028 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: go to the right, one guy to get him to 1029 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: go to the left, the other guy would get him. 1030 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: What DK does here is he shows how strong he 1031 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: is Moyer because the release isn't great. Right, he gets 1032 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: an outside release, but Lattimore gets his hands on him, 1033 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: and Dka even stumbles a little bit about three or 1034 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: four steps into his route. He's just running a goal route. 1035 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: What's good about this is that he goes wide and 1036 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: stays away from the safety. Now Lattimore is doing what 1037 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: most corners do. They're pulling at your jersey. They're pulling 1038 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: at your hands or trying to get you to chicken fight. 1039 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: My coaches used to say, don't chicken fight with him. 1040 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: That's what they want. So Lattimore is trying to chicken 1041 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: fight with him. Get his hands act if he's actually 1042 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: pulling on DK metcalf and metcal just yanks his arm away, 1043 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: and in real time it looked like DK stiff arm 1044 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: the man to the ground, and I'm like, I don't 1045 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: know how he got away with that, But that's not true. 1046 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: When you get closer, you see Lattimore's pulling on him. 1047 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: DK yanks his arm away and now Gino Smith just 1048 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: fires a dark I mean it's in the perfect position. 1049 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: All DC has to do is turn his hands over 1050 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: and he's there. Now the safety takes an horrible angle. 1051 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: DK gives him just a little bit of heavy sideline 1052 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: and now once he gets past you, not too many 1053 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: guys are catching this guy. So one good body control 1054 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: by DK and two Gino, way to just take a 1055 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: shot because before this game we're saying, look, Gino need 1056 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: to take a couple of shots down the field, need 1057 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: exposed to plays. After this play, man, I thought, okay, 1058 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: Hawks are gonna get on a roll. Yeah, I thought 1059 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: so too, and I wish we he did take a 1060 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: couple more shots. It was the next quarter where he 1061 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: had Tyler lock it down the less sideline and he 1062 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: made a great throw. He just didn't didn't make the catch. 1063 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: And you're right on this. This is really good coverage. 1064 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this was a battle all day 1065 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: and there's no question you know Dka got in uh 1066 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: in Latimer's head on particularly after this play and in 1067 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: the very next series that's when he got the personal fouls, 1068 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: but he did not pull him down. Talking about decay, 1069 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. I go, wow, you know, 1070 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: it looked like he pulled him down his offensive interference. 1071 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: Now and Latimer, a lot of times corners will do that. 1072 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: They'll they'll clamp down with their elbow and they'll clamp 1073 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: down on the arm. And all Dka did on that, 1074 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: he just pulled it away. And in this case, you know, 1075 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,959 Speaker 1: Latimer end up falling down. It was a bad angle, 1076 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: as you mentioned by the safety. But look, the moral 1077 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: of the story is take more shots down filled with decay. 1078 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: If the worst thing is going to happen is an 1079 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: incomplete but the best thing is a touchdown or or 1080 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: a pass interference. We just have to take more calculated 1081 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: shots downfield. We have to make some easy scores. That 1082 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: was the only one we had all day. Yeah, that 1083 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: was our only touchdown. And then when you take those shots, 1084 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 1: receivers come up with the football. Because this is the NFL, 1085 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: and we talked about it during the game, there wasn't 1086 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: a lot of space between these receivers in that same secondary. 1087 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: So when you have an opportunity, man, you go up 1088 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: and get that thing. Okay, next play, Jordan Brooks saves 1089 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown on third and goal. Camaro wide on the 1090 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: left side, looking inside. The ball is hitting the pins 1091 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: on him. Knockdown, jumping up to knock it down as 1092 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks, he was about four yards deep as Jamis 1093 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: Winson was looking to throw the ball behind him and 1094 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: Brooks leaps then slaps it down and here comes a 1095 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: field goal team on for the Saints. Yeah, it's a 1096 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: good thing Brooks was there. We talked going into this 1097 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: game that Jamis Winson wants to throw you interceptions. This 1098 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 1: is one of those. This is such a reckless throw. 1099 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't he doesn't see anything. What's going on the 1100 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: backside with the defense. Um, you know, Jamal Adams is 1101 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: back there as well. They're they're running a crossing route 1102 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: and and we do a pretty good job of exchanging 1103 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: positions on the underneath coverage. But Jamis just throws us 1104 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 1: one up. If if if Brooks gets just a little 1105 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: more depth, if Jamal didn't slide with the crossing route 1106 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: that he didn't really need to initially, that's an easy pick. Yeah. 1107 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: And again, I used to love playing guys like Jamis 1108 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: because I'd bait him. If you think it's there, it 1109 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: ain't there. And you know again, nice play by Brooks. 1110 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: He's got he's getting a better and better feel for 1111 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: zone defense and uh, you know again, in his second year, 1112 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: never really had an opportunity in college. I think he's 1113 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good at this. Yeah. What I like 1114 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: about this moyer is that there's a crossing route in 1115 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: front of him. He respects that. He slides to the 1116 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: right of bid, but then he looks at the quarterback's 1117 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: eyes and goes, look, he's not going there. There's something 1118 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: going on behind me. He just feels it and he 1119 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: stops in James miss Winston throwing off of his back foot. 1120 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: This should have been one of those interceptions right here. 1121 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: I think if Jordan Brooks does not make this play, 1122 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: this is probably a touchdown. Looks like Jamal Adams is 1123 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: a little late reacting to that. But yeah, it's so 1124 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: nice to be young. It's to react and jump up, 1125 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: get off the ground quickly, pat the ball down. I mean, 1126 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:23,439 Speaker 1: Father time's on his side making plays. Yeah, your playmakers 1127 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: making plays. Really, and we've heard this a million million times. 1128 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: It helps with any type of deficiencies you may have 1129 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: there's usually a bus in zones somewhere along the way 1130 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: unless someone makes a great play and bails people out. 1131 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: This was a great bit played by Jordan Brooks. Good 1132 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: played by the youngster. Okay, the last play, Jami's Winston 1133 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: finds Alvin Kamar for a thirty one yard game. Winston 1134 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: three step brought, looks, dumps it over the middle. Kamara 1135 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: on the run. He's crossing the field down of the forty, 1136 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: down of the thirty and he just literally outran the 1137 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: defender Ryan Neil, who was trying to cover a man 1138 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: to man. Everybody else cleared out and Camara with a 1139 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: thirty one yard game. Yeah. The one the thing they 1140 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: hurt on this is it's the final two minutes, you know, 1141 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: and you just can't give up chunk yards in the 1142 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: final two manuches. You're gonna give up eight yards, nine yards. 1143 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's rarely enough time for you to drive 1144 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: all the way down. We're playing what we would call 1145 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: a two man. We got two safeties deep. Everybody else 1146 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: is supposed to be man to man underneath looks like 1147 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: inside technique, inside technique, and in this case, uh, can 1148 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: you know Ryan Niels got Kamara that's a tough matchup Kamara. 1149 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: Actually I keeps saying Kamara. It's Kamara. What do I say? 1150 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: I do too. But when I looked at the guide 1151 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: and I heard Rabel, I said, okay, I'm saying it wrong. 1152 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 1: A k um. He set him up. He was in 1153 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 1: the backfield. And one of the things you always teach 1154 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 1: a linebacker a nickel, anybody who's got a back out 1155 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 1: of watch the angle route. That's where they set up, 1156 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, like they're gonna go outside, and all of sudden, 1157 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: the angle a back inside and two men. You've got 1158 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 1: no help inside. You've got to use help outside, and 1159 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: that's the sideline. Let him go to the flat. I'm 1160 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: okay with that. So he just gets He's not great technique. 1161 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: It's actually a perfect call versus two man. One of 1162 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: the concerns with two man is somebody getting beat inside 1163 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: on a runaway because there's no help along the way, 1164 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: and that in this case he makes a big play 1165 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: and that they end up kicking actually amp scorn on 1166 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: this drive. What's tough about this is that there are 1167 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: a few concepts where Camara goes to the flat and 1168 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: they'd just dump it like they'll even fake the play 1169 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: the run, play to that side, and he'll hit the 1170 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,959 Speaker 1: flat So I'm sure Neil has seen this on film. 1171 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: He goes, Okay, I gotta get outside. I gotta get outside. 1172 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: But Jameis Winston was going nowhere else with his football. 1173 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: He saw, man, everyone's just running, goes, he knows, I 1174 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: got to match up right here. I'm gonna hit my 1175 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: guy in stride. And that drive leading to the touchdown 1176 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: before I was a touchdown half before they scored. I mean, 1177 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: that's all they did. Dump dump into the flat angle out, 1178 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: dump it into the flat angle out. So that's a 1179 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: it's a tough call or a tough ask for Ryan 1180 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: Neil to cover this guy. But you're right if you're 1181 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: if anything, man, collision them inside and make him work. 1182 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: That's like a free release. You get that due to 1183 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: free release. Man, he's gonna eat you a lot. Again, 1184 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you get beat by a better player, bet faster guy, quicker. 1185 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean two man against I don't again. Coaches, Sorry, 1186 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: they didn't have any wide receivers. When you have great 1187 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 1: wide receivers outside and in the slot, you play two man. Yeah, 1188 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: you can bump and a run, force him outside to 1189 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: the sideline. You got a great running back to man. 1190 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't love it. I'd rather play what I call 1191 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: the'll cover eleven. That's where I'm gonna play him head 1192 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: up and and by the way, we did this in 1193 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: the second half where now Brooks or that guy said 1194 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and beat me on the angle and Bobby 1195 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: Wagner was waiting for him inside. And then again if 1196 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: he runs across from route, you take him and all 1197 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: come into the middle and rob along the way. With 1198 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: this offense, I would like to see more of that 1199 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: because Camara was the he's the guy. I mean, he 1200 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: had eight catches in the first half, only two in 1201 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: the second half. They made a really good adjustment in 1202 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: the second half. Yep, game is all about adjustments. They 1203 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: did that in the second half against Camara is his name? 1204 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: Thank you Paul Moyer for that. Okay, when we return, 1205 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: we will go around the NFL. ESPN personality Mina Kimes 1206 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: has harsh words for the Seahawks and Mike Tomlin ain't 1207 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: got no time for questions regarding usc All that of more. 1208 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: Next right here on Hawks Live, Welcome back to Hawks 1209 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: Live with Michael Bumps with Paul Moyer. You have a 1210 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: thriller going on Thursday night football. Looks like the Green 1211 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: Bay Packers just sealed the deal against the Arizona Cardinals, 1212 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: giving them their first loft. Carlin Murray and limping off 1213 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: the field not a good sight. You turned the ball 1214 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: over three times like the Cardinals half. You're probably not 1215 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: gonna win that ball game. Big turnover at the end 1216 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: of that game. Moyer, Well, the way he landed on 1217 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: his knee, and you know, I'm worried more like a hip, 1218 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of things there. I mean, I'm 1219 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: hoping he's good. Yeah, but if he's gone, we can 1220 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: have the discussion again next week. Who's more by Russell 1221 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: or Kyler. I mean, he's pretty good. He made some 1222 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: great plays, but wow, what an unbelievable interception to end 1223 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, great interception Aaron Rodgers to celebrate. Okay, 1224 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: let's get back to some Seahawks football. ESPN personality and 1225 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks super fan Mina Kines has some harsh words to 1226 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: say about Pete Carroll and the Seahawks this year. She 1227 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: was asked if the Seahawks should move on from Pete Carroll. 1228 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Here's her answer. I think that unless there's some dramatic changes. 1229 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: It has to be on the table, and that's hard 1230 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: for me to say. I think Pete Carroll is a 1231 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: tremendous leader, clearly beloved by his players, one of the 1232 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: most successful coaches in Seattle sports history, frankly, but you know, 1233 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: I've watched every decision he's made as the Seahawks coach, 1234 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: and there's been too many bad ones, too many issues 1235 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: with clock management. I'm talking recent years, too many punts 1236 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: and opponents territory, too much conservative play calling back that 1237 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: includes when Russell Wilson was a quarterback. And this is 1238 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: not a reaction to last night, but you can point 1239 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: to last night and say, well, Gino Smith's not a 1240 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: good quarterback. Hence some of the decisions to run the ball. 1241 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Gino Rima under center. You 1242 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: don't run the ball into the teeth of the Saints 1243 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,000 Speaker 1: defense over and over and over and expect a different result. 1244 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: They faced eleven eight man boxes. They ran into nine 1245 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 1: of them for one yards per carry. I think what 1246 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing right now is that Russell Wilson, as p 1247 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: Carroll kind of admitted there covered up for a lot 1248 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: of the issues in Seattle. For a long time. Obviously, 1249 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: the defense hasn't been good for a long time. And yeah, 1250 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 1: the head coach does need to be held accountable. Strong 1251 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: words before you get at her, morier before you get 1252 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: at her. Stephen Smith says a pumped the bricks the 1253 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: last three years. He went to the playoffs three years 1254 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: ago with ten wins, went to the playoffs two years 1255 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,479 Speaker 1: ago with eleven, went to the playoffs last year, which well, 1256 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: and we're looking at him and saying, well, you know what, 1257 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it might be time. I mean, 1258 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: wait a minute now, Well he just took my argument. 1259 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: There you go. So here's my issue with her argument 1260 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: said things have to change. I'd like to know what 1261 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: things have to change. He's the he's beloved by his players. Well, 1262 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 1: it's what needs to change. I've seen too many things 1263 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: where he's made bad mistakes. Wow, if he was a 1264 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: good coach, what would their record be because they haven't 1265 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: had a losing record in ten years. And Stephen Ay 1266 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: just mentioned I was thrown out. If you had a 1267 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: new head coach and he went nine and seven, ten 1268 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: and six, eleven and five, twelve and four, are you 1269 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: looking to make a change the next year? Because she's 1270 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: saying that she and I'm going so if he was 1271 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: a good coach, are we going fifteen wins? I just 1272 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: the argument is really strange to me. And there's no 1273 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: question without Russell, any team without their main quarterback is 1274 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: not going to be as good. And Peter said that, look, 1275 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: without Russell, I'm probably not here as long. I'm probably 1276 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: not going to be as consistent winner. And he's speaking 1277 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the truth. Let's talk about the great great head coaches 1278 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: in the league the past fifteen years, Mike Tomlin, Ben Roethlisberg, Belichick, 1279 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Andy Reid, Pat Mahomes, Like, you need a 1280 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: quarterback two weeks successful. We talked before this, there's only 1281 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: a few teams who I've done without a really good quarterback. 1282 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: But what do they what do they usually have? Great defense? 1283 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: A great defense. We talk about Brad Johnson with the 1284 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers back then, the Bucks were considered one 1285 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: of the best defenses of all time. Trent Dilford with 1286 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens back then, that defense is still considered 1287 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: one of the greatest defenses of all time. So I 1288 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: think her argument is a response off of what she's 1289 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: seen for this year you got a quarterback, I mean, 1290 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I'll get rid of Pete love Gino. We need to 1291 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: make a change unless there's drastic change. I just want 1292 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: to what do you mean drastic changes? So with Russell 1293 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: out be more aggressive. And here's my probably my biggest 1294 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's arguments the right word, but 1295 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: you can fire Pete if you don't believe in this philosophy. 1296 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: You can't fire him for not being a great coach, 1297 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: because he's a great coach. Yeah. I mean, all they've 1298 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,959 Speaker 1: done is one. And if you're gonna fire on his philosophy, 1299 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 1: all they've done is one. With that philosophy. Now you 1300 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and I could push back. Now they need to throw 1301 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,959 Speaker 1: up more. We need to let Russell do more. Maybe 1302 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the way we drafting that's a philosophy, But you cannot 1303 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: tell me this philosophy hasn't been wildly successful. Yeah, and 1304 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: now we don't have Russell and we're learning what life 1305 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: is like without a guy who's made every snap for 1306 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: the last time. And I don't mind them running the 1307 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: ball a lot against the Saints. What do you have? 1308 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: You have a backwell quarterback, so you prefer that you 1309 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: put the game in a Geno Smith's hands and say, look, 1310 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna throw the ball thirty five forty times. You 1311 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: win it for us. Yes, I know you have thirty 1312 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns and thirty seven interceptors in this league. You haven't 1313 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: been a starter in four or five years, but you 1314 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: go ahead and win this for us. I just I 1315 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,800 Speaker 1: disagree with that. I think she sounds like a lot 1316 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: of the Twitter world when they just want to react 1317 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: to react, and yeah they are. They not allowed to 1318 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: have a down year. They're down. Every team has had 1319 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: a down year, but the Seahawks, even Tampa Bay, when 1320 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: you know they've had some down years usually when Tom 1321 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: was hurt, they didn't make the playoffs. When he finally left, 1322 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: they didn't make the playoffs. Patriots, what I say, Tampa Bay? Yeah, yeah, 1323 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: New England. Everybody's taken a step back. Green Bay's taken 1324 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 1: a step back, Pittsburgh's taken a step back. Everybody's gone 1325 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: through it. We're in a salary cap world. The Seahawks 1326 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: have a quarterback on a one of the highest paid 1327 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,760 Speaker 1: contracts in the league and are still finding ways to win. 1328 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw it back to one of her arguments. 1329 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 1: I get something's got to change. He's too conservative. Okay, 1330 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 1: So you were fine running the football against New Orleans, 1331 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: me too. So let's look at when we've had to 1332 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: put the weight of the world on Gino, and it's 1333 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: been the last drive against the Rams. I don't really 1334 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: think that was his fault, but it was an interception. 1335 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: We had a chance against Pittsburgh, we fumbled the football 1336 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 1: in overtime. Last week, we didn't. We got sacked three 1337 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: times in a row, I think, or actually two or 1338 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: three times in the last drive. So when we've put 1339 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: it on his shoulders, I don't want to go there. No, 1340 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I want him to have an opportunity to be successful. 1341 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Let's run it, let's play action. Let's take some shots 1342 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 1: down field. Every once a while, it's okay to punt, 1343 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: and particularly you know this game coming up as well. 1344 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: So I just don't get an argument. You gotta use 1345 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: all your weapons, and Gino's not your biggest weapon right now, 1346 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: He's not. He's a band aid right now. Bandaid, let 1347 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: a hill and then once it hill, Russell Wilson is 1348 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna come back. And I'm just gonna say this out 1349 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: to you twelves out there. Y'all are spoiled. Man, y'all 1350 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 1: are spoiled when I played. Back in my day, when 1351 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,919 Speaker 1: I played, we were four and twelve. Okay, like those 1352 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 1: are some dark years. Don't don't forget where you've come from. 1353 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 1: It's okay to be upset, it's okay to be discouraged. Man, 1354 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 1: this they're two and five. We're not used to this. 1355 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: They're supposed to be Super Bowl contenders this year. I 1356 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: get all of that. But to say, because they're two 1357 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and five, you want to get rid of the coach 1358 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: that changed this franchise who doesn't have his franchise player 1359 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. To me let him play play the contract 1360 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: out Now if they go two or three more seasons 1361 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 1: two and five and they got Russell Wilson, now you 1362 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 1: talk about it, but right now it's his red shirt. 1363 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: He's old one. Well, hold on a minute, you want 1364 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,919 Speaker 1: some more context. Let's look at the San Francisco forty 1365 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 1: nine ers. Since Pete has been there, the forty nine 1366 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,720 Speaker 1: ers have been really good, really bad, really good, looks 1367 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: like they're bad again. In that same time frame, the 1368 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have been bad, good, bad, and back to good. 1369 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: The Rams have been really, really bad then they got 1370 01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 1: good kind of in between. So every team in the 1371 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 1: NFCUS has taken a turn being good, bad, and good 1372 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: and then bad again, while the Seahawks have remained consistent 1373 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: every single year. So how on earth can we really 1374 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: say something about Pete? It just makes no sense bose 1375 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: of mine. You know. The other thing is, if you 1376 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: really want to do this kind of right, I've argued this, 1377 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: do you want to be that team like San Francisco 1378 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: that maybe every five years has a chance to go 1379 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl and then they're sub five hundred 1380 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: and the only way that you can really make a 1381 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 1: run usually at super Bowls, you gotta take a step back. 1382 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 1: We gotta lose. We gotta get some draft picks, you know, 1383 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 1: we gotta get rid of some salary cap, bring some 1384 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: youth in seas have never had to do that and 1385 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 1: still are super Bowl contenders. And I still think you 1386 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 1: get Russell back. Got to win this week. Yeah, gotta 1387 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: get to the boy. We gotta get Russell back. If 1388 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: we can find a way to get to the playoffs. 1389 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 1: I do believe we have enough talent to do it. Man. 1390 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 1: We have a chance to surprise a lot of people. 1391 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: It's just it's unfortunate. We're two and five. We're just 1392 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: not used to it. And here's the thing. Changes needs 1393 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 1: to be made. Changes are always made during the off season. 1394 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Personnel changes, there's always some coaching changes, there are some 1395 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: philosophy changes. When when Pete gets with his coaching staff. 1396 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 1: I think people want drastic changes right now, especially when 1397 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: it comes to personnel and coaching. What is that going 1398 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: to do. I don't think that helps your team right now. 1399 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: You're in the middle of a football season. You just 1400 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 1: got to ride this thing out. You got unfortunate circumstances. 1401 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: You're experimenting with DBS. Your linebacker corps is getting is 1402 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: aging a little bit, you got your franchise quarterback is out, 1403 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you're starting running back is out. Like, if everyone's healthy, 1404 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: then I don't think that this team is two and five. 1405 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: But I understand their frustration. It's okay to be frustrated. 1406 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: But let's be realistic, Pete Carroll, it's supposed to be 1407 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: here and we'll be here. Yeah. If this was twenty 1408 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: years ago without Twitter, we're not even having this conversation. 1409 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,799 Speaker 1: You just come off a twelve and four year eleven 1410 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: and I mean, all you've done eleven twelve wins. Not 1411 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 1: no one's jumping on them. They're just like, Hey, what 1412 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: are we gonna do in a draft coming? What are 1413 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 1: we gonna do with free agency? And here's the other 1414 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: thing for all your twelves out there, we have a 1415 01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 1: boatload of money for next year, a boatload to go 1416 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: after free agents. So I'm not giving up on the 1417 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 1: season yet. I won't, but uh, well, we'll see. This 1418 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: team has a way of making magic happen when you 1419 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Hey, let's start this Sunday 1420 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,759 Speaker 1: one oh five against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, when we return, 1421 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: we'll give you our final thoughts and keys to victory 1422 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 1: right here on Hawks Live. Last segment of Hawks Live 1423 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 1: of Michael Bumps with Paul Moyer. We gotta look at 1424 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: these Jacksonville Jaguars. Moyer, like I mentioned that a number 1425 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 1: fifteen overall on offense, ten running the ball, nineteen pass 1426 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,839 Speaker 1: offense defensively, it's uh, it's the startup from the bottoms. 1427 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: We still here. We got the thirty one ranks, thirty 1428 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 1: first ranked Seahawks and the thirtieth ranked Jaguars going at it. 1429 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: So safe to say, whichever defense performs the best, I'm 1430 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna win this ball game. Yeah. I like our I 1431 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 1: like our defense way better than theirs. Uh. I mean 1432 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 1: they're strugg and they got Myles Jack still there, I think, 1433 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: and then they got you know, Shaq Griffin over. But 1434 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,560 Speaker 1: Shack's not a playmaker. He's a good corner, he's a 1435 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: good cover guy. But i'd take shots on him. He's 1436 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: not an intercept you know, he doesn't. He doesn't have 1437 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 1: great ball skills there, So I would take some shots there. 1438 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Who's got a better quarterback? You know, they're probably even 1439 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: right now, even though I think Lawrence the upsides there, 1440 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 1: and he runs the ball pretty well, and he's he's 1441 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 1: probably more of a free slinger, you know, they're not 1442 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: as worried about interceptions. He does have eight interceptions, I 1443 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: think seven tests. Quarterback ratings seventy five. The scary part 1444 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: is it's the in between. He actually looks pretty good 1445 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 1: at Kenny scored in the red zone. Does he protect 1446 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: the football? They can run the football, So we're gonna 1447 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 1: have to shore up there. It'll be a tough game. 1448 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 1: It's probably gonna come to have the fourth quarter. I 1449 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: hate to say it, and you know, we need Gino 1450 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 1: to step up. That's the case. Seahawks lead the series 1451 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: five to three. The last time they played was in 1452 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Hawks lost thirty to twenty four. But I 1453 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: leave I believe that year the Jack's had a good team. 1454 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: He wins to the ass the championship games with Ramsey 1455 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: and all those boys. Blake Bortles was that quarterback. I 1456 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: believe at Leonard Fournette running the football. Um, yeah, you 1457 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: know what, And that was my first time on the 1458 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Uh the postgame show? Was was that loss? Was you 1459 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: said it was seventeen? Yeah, twenty seventeen. Yeah, I remember 1460 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 1: that game. Um, they had a fantastic defense that year. 1461 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean they were young, they were fast. I remember 1462 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 1: your Miles Jack who went to Bellevue and he was 1463 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 1: getting a lot of pub at that time. They fell 1464 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 1: off the cliff. Yeah that is the and again for 1465 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 1: all you twelves out there, I mean they were the young, 1466 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: up and coming team and fell off the cliff, big 1467 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: became horrible. All the Seahawks do is he just keep winning. 1468 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 1: And again we'll see what happens when this one's all 1469 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: said and done. But it'll be a tough game. They're 1470 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of new faces there. They've got 1471 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: you know again, eight nine guys who were Seattle Seahawks 1472 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: as coaches and administration players. Um, so it'll be a 1473 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: fun little reunion. The seat need to win us winner. 1474 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: It's just I don't even want to say they're going 1475 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,680 Speaker 1: to They need to win it, and I think it 1476 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 1: starts with stopping James Robinson. He has four in to 1477 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 1: sixty yards five touchdowns, averaging five point five a carry. 1478 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,839 Speaker 1: That is impressive. I watched this guy on film. He's slippery. 1479 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he understands, he lets he lets his big 1480 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: boys work for him. You know, you watch running backs 1481 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: and they're just they're so quick to hit it. I 1482 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: was like, look, man, we gotta we got a GT. 1483 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: Pull right here, buddy. You gotta let these big boys 1484 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: get in front of you and let them do their job. 1485 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 1: And I see this guy, this is second year in 1486 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 1: the league, last year rush for over a thousand yards. 1487 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: He's patient and he knows when they hit it when 1488 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: it's time to go. Then on the outside, you got 1489 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones out of cow big play receivery, have Laviska Snault, 1490 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: who was a good kid out of Colorado. There's some 1491 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,599 Speaker 1: weapons there. The Hawks has done a good job keeping 1492 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 1: things in front of him the last two games. I 1493 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be important this week. Yeah, I mean 1494 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones. I mean I thought he was well historically 1495 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,560 Speaker 1: more of a possession guy. Um along the way. So 1496 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: I got my my other ones here are gonna pull 1497 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 1: that up? Um. Yeah, I mean Penny averages five point 1498 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 1: one yards in his career. I just I'm hoping this 1499 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 1: is the week these he feels healthy. We had him 1500 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: on earlier. He feels confident. I think he feels comfortable 1501 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 1: and where he is right now. It's been about injuries. 1502 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: It's never it's never been about talent. They guys had 1503 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,439 Speaker 1: a lot of success. Um. So you know again they 1504 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 1: got some guys, you know, but we we got some 1505 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 1: guys too. It's just time for us to play a 1506 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 1: game where our biggest players really dominate. I'm I need 1507 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 1: I need Bobby Wagner to really go play like the 1508 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 1: new the New Orleans linebacker last week, Davis, I mean, 1509 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,560 Speaker 1: just take over a game in the fourth quarter. I 1510 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 1: need Jamal Adams to take over a game. You're big. 1511 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: I need DK to take over. Tyler locket's been quiet 1512 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the last two or three weeks. Yeah, that's you know, look, 1513 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna have take some shots. I'm okay with if 1514 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 1: you if if people do what New Orleans does, and 1515 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,679 Speaker 1: that was they clamped down on all of our short stuff. 1516 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Said we're gonna play over the top at times, either 1517 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 1: single safety or sometimes covered two. We got to find 1518 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: a way still to take that ball vertical. You know, 1519 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: if they're gonna take away the short stuff, then go 1520 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: over the top of it, and let's okay to punt. 1521 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: You know who's been shining though, man Quandre digs. Yeah, 1522 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean he's flying down hill, making tackles. He plays 1523 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: with that speed and intensity that we hoped that that 1524 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: second level would and other guys would as well. So 1525 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: if they have they want to follow, anybody follow Quandre 1526 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Man He's been the most consistent player probably on this 1527 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 1: team all season. We're not calling his name because of 1528 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: a busted player or not. He's been solid. He he's 1529 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 1: like him, he's like the lineman of the defense, like 1530 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: he just does his job and no one really says 1531 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 1: anything about it. You know, Sunday, we this one's weird 1532 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 1: because we don't really have a halfway point to the 1533 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 1: season anymore because of the odd game of seventeen. But 1534 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 1: we usually have our you know MVPs, you know, going 1535 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 1: into the bye week, and this will be kind of 1536 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 1: like the half way, the old one I Quandway digs 1537 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 1: with is no question my MVP. On defense, Yeah, he's 1538 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: been the most consistent. I mean what he did to Kamara, 1539 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: the way he tackled him in the open field when 1540 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 1: no one could that was really impressive. Offense. MVP. Oh, 1541 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 1: I probably DK. You know, Tyler started off so early, 1542 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 1: I mean asked he was running away with the yards 1543 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 1: and touchdowns. Um, yeah, it's it's got to be DK 1544 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, is there anybody else? No, 1545 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,840 Speaker 1: I would say DK. And then special teams, I go Belore, 1546 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 1: Yeah has been Yeah, Bloord has been doing this thing. Yeah, 1547 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 1: got special team. Look, kickers, we need a little more 1548 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 1: consistency out of both of them, too. Special teams is critical. 1549 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,680 Speaker 1: Field position critical. We cannot start the ball inside the 1550 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 1: ten yard line and we've got to pin them inside 1551 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 1: the ten. Yeah, give Gino a short field. I'm not 1552 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 1: sure how many short fields he has to do it. 1553 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I think they had one last week. They but they 1554 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 1: ended up not getting any yards. It just got a 1555 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 1: field goal out of it. I think if you give 1556 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Gino fifty to sixty yards to play it, you're gonna 1557 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: his success rate should go up. Yeah. Last week I 1558 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 1: pulled this up. They were about six yards better in 1559 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,600 Speaker 1: their starting field position, and I'm gonna grab this. This 1560 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: is really good radio as I do this. We started 1561 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 1: on our own twenty four yardland. They started on their 1562 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,679 Speaker 1: thirty yard line. And again some of those again I'd 1563 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: like to see more the median than that. We're the averages. 1564 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Some of those when we're starting to side the ten 1565 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 1: yard line fifteen we had the one what was eighty 1566 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: four yard touchdown? It was really about the fifteen yard line, 1567 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 1: but they move it up to round it up to 1568 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 1: the sixteen. I guess you know. We made a big 1569 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 1: play there. But now we're just not built to go 1570 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: ten plays ninety yards. It's just not our offense big plays. 1571 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: We need big plays. Man. We appreciate you guys hanging 1572 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,759 Speaker 1: out with us today. Special thanks to Rare, Shad Penny, 1573 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: and John Clayton for joining the show, our board operated 1574 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: DJ Wilder, and our executive producer Nasa Choby. The Seahawks 1575 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: pregame show was live this Sunday, starting at ten am. 1576 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: Until next time, I'm your host, Michael Bumswood Palmer. We'll 1577 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: be back next week right here on hawks A Live