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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Hey, lots of ads today. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Morning Dread. Hi, I have what half of your

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Speaker 2: hosting duo. My name is Luke Thomas. I join you

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Speaker 2: from the capital of the Stata Undas of course, this

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat, and I'm joined by my editorial partner and

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Speaker 2: uh Rastafarian, Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, how are you? Hi? Luke?

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Speaker 3: Lights out? This is Combat Guerrilla Radio, So turn that

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Speaker 3: shit up. We're back. We're back with a bang. Hey

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Speaker 3: this is great. You know, I can't drink anymore because

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Speaker 3: So here you go, Luca. You know, we say that

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Speaker 3: watching this show and the documentaries are like watching the

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Speaker 3: you know, the ups and downs, the growth of men.

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Speaker 3: I think in reality, we're watching the slow death of

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Speaker 2: Dude, it took it took me, like today's Wednesday, right,

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Speaker 2: So I felt pretty good yesterday by the afternoon, but

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Speaker 2: you know, no one cares about his aging unless we die,

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Speaker 3: Seriously, if one of us dies on the job, we

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Speaker 3: better get that kind of over zealous David Bowie reaction

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Speaker 3: But then they're like, this man has touched me and

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Speaker 3: inspired me in so many ways. We better get that

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Speaker 3: same shit from our mkp ones. All right, you better

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Speaker 2: I just want to make good content. If I'm going

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Speaker 2: it and shit, you know that would be Yeah, that's fair,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see you go out like Gigi Allen

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Speaker 3: did Luke naked, drugged out, eating his own shit. I mean,

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Speaker 3: to apropos for your career up to this point, but

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Speaker 3: it's been great working with you and Luke. How about this?

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Speaker 3: How about room service diaries? Laursenko? Okay, okay, how about that?

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Speaker 3: How about this phenomenon? That is a wholesome interview between

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Speaker 3: Think our audience wanted that to be something it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: So were you wearing sweatpants and a drug rug? I

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Speaker 3: But you know, midlife crisises are what they are. Luke,

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Speaker 3: But Luke, in that third round, even though Anderson's striking

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Speaker 3: Now at this point, we also still haven't seen that

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Speaker 3: It's still true to me, Luke, as much as I

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Speaker 6: So, I gotta say that you're a getting I like

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Speaker 6: But the thing is, most guys they work it with him,

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Speaker 6: Like it went exactly how I expected. I told coaches.

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Speaker 4: First round.

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Speaker 6: We might lose first, we might lose second. You still

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Speaker 4: That was the game plan.

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Speaker 6: We knew he's gonna come out fast, he's gonna bounce,

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Speaker 6: I wanted to rush it. Nope, stay calm. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: He's gonna slow down a second.

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Speaker 6: I started throwing out like now we're gonna start comming back,

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Speaker 6: We know he's ready, he's young, he's ready, he's early. Shoot,

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Speaker 4: I look at me.

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Speaker 6: It was like a man and a half left. I said,

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Speaker 4: Just look at him. It is not you know, you

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Speaker 3: You played a deeper mental game than you get credit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cory Anderson talks kind of like he fights like

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest change you think Viteem nemkv needs to make.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say up front, take down the

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent, that does. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: I'm interested, Luke, So no, we don't have enough information

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Speaker 2: to know. And I think your point there as well

430
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Speaker 2: taken like declarations about how we know, we would have

431
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Speaker 2: just would have gone, had to continue to I don't

432
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Speaker 2: think it's true. But two things stand out. One, Nemkov

433
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,360
Speaker 2: was kind of kicking everyone's out. I mean, the Phil

434
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 2: Davis fights, you know, or a fight was whatever was not.

435
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,640
Speaker 2: You know, Phil Davis is hard to beat and make

436
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,680
Speaker 2: it look good. But this is the point, no one

437
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 2: had really kind of put it on Vadem Neimkov in

438
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,399
Speaker 2: Bellator up to this point, Like, no one had really

439
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,719
Speaker 2: kind of stuck it to him where he was fighting

440
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 2: off of his back and he was trying to figure

441
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Speaker 2: things out. Corey was able to do that, and you're like, wow,

442
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Speaker 2: that's kind of interesting. The other part was that as

443
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Speaker 2: as the time wore on, I just didn't like some

444
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Speaker 2: of the tactical things I was seeing from Nemkov, like

445
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Speaker 2: trying to play a guard game against Corey Anderson, trying

446
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Speaker 2: to frame for arm bars and stuff. It's like, dude,

447
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Speaker 2: I don't think that shit's gonna work, not unless you

448
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: really have him hurt or he's really tired, maybe later

449
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Speaker 2: in the fight or something. We always talk about it. It

450
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Speaker 2: is very very very very very hard to submit an

451
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Speaker 2: elite fighter or elite black belt from guard. It does

452
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Speaker 2: happen time to time, but it's not easy. It's quite difficult.

453
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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's a great way to go

454
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Speaker 2: about it, unless you're creating scrambles to get up.

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Speaker 3: So fatigue influence do you think Luke?

456
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Speaker 2: I know, I think he believes. I think a lot

457
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Speaker 2: of guys believe in their submission ability in certain positions.

458
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Speaker 2: But off the back the numbers are clear. Man Like again,

459
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: everyone's like, well what about Anthony Pettison, fucking Benson Henderson. Well, right,

460
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 2: Pettis dropped him or or hurt him badly with a

461
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Speaker 2: body kick, and then he shot, and then there was

462
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Speaker 2: obviously a a I think he was. Was it a

463
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Speaker 2: triangle choke or an arm bar right there underneath? I

464
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Speaker 2: forget anymore when they had their rematch in UFC, but

465
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Speaker 2: you get the idea, like you have to do something

466
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Speaker 2: to them first that really takes away their submission ability

467
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Speaker 2: if they take you down and then you start playing

468
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Speaker 2: guard again. Dude. Even for Charles olivera even for the

469
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Speaker 2: Great Charles OLIVERA. He's got two submissions that originated from

470
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Speaker 2: his back and those were guys who were not considered elite,

471
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Speaker 2: and it was at one forty five. So like, it's

472
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Speaker 2: just not really fucking relevant. So I just think he

473
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Speaker 2: needs to make some separate choices. Also, we can't get

474
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Speaker 2: away from this conversation without talking about the head butt.

475
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Speaker 2: We asked him about the head butt, how he interpreted

476
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Speaker 2: all of it and what it all means. This is

477
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Speaker 2: what he had to say, was playing this to three

478
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Speaker 2: people this last week. So you see fights for a guy.

479
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Speaker 6: When they head butt and it gets a blood, the

480
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Speaker 6: reference how to judge, like, don't count that that was

481
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Speaker 6: an accidental head butt. That's all I was doing. I

482
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Speaker 6: did not tell this. I was not thinking he was

483
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Speaker 6: gonna stop the fight. I heard him say that was

484
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Speaker 6: a clean shot, but I was trying to.

485
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Speaker 4: Tell him like, no, it wasn't. It was my head.

486
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Speaker 4: So maybe he told the judge like, all right, don't

487
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Speaker 4: count that damage. That was an accident.

488
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Speaker 6: I had no idea they was gonna stop until I

489
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Speaker 6: looked down and saw how bad it was. And he's

490
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Speaker 6: still saying clean shot, clean shot, Keep going keep going like, no,

491
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Speaker 6: it was ahead, but so I'm thinking they was just

492
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Speaker 6: gonna give him a stakend the click, wipe the blood

493
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Speaker 6: his eye or something.

494
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Speaker 4: I didn't know the doctor was even gonna come in

495
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Speaker 4: and look at it.

496
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Speaker 6: That they stopped the fight and the doctor from the

497
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Speaker 6: he before he even step in the cage. He steps

498
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Speaker 6: at the gate, he waves off like you ain't even

499
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Speaker 6: come in yet, Like yo, like it was a bad cut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad, but.

501
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Speaker 6: At the same time, at least put some bast but

502
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Speaker 6: three seconds ago away and then take time to work

503
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Speaker 6: on it. I was literally just letting him, heard him

504
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Speaker 6: say clean shot, just let him know was it was.

505
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Speaker 6: Because Nimkov says something, that's how I like agreeing, like,

506
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 6: yeah it was. It wasn't my punch, it was my

507
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Speaker 6: or elbow, it was my head's.

508
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Speaker 3: Been did feel like it was stopped fairly quick? I mean,

509
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Speaker 3: is there any is there any validity to what he says? Luke?

510
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Speaker 3: I did feel like upon rewatching it, uh recently, that

511
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: it was sort of like, oh it's over, and you're

512
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Speaker 3: like whoa, whoa, Like there wasn't a ton of attempts

513
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Speaker 3: made to do to try to repair it.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the issue for me on this is

515
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: that there's just no consistency with some of these calls

516
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: and certain jurisdictions referee to referee, state to state. Obviously

517
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Speaker 2: the organization can't play a role here in that way.

518
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 2: So but you know, just in terms of the overall

519
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 2: MMA fans experience, when you watch one organization in one

520
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: state with one fighter, you get a certain set of results.

521
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Speaker 2: I don't think that what the referee did was by

522
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Speaker 2: the book wrong. It seemed a little aggressive, but you know,

523
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Speaker 2: obviously there was that sort of diving, but that was

524
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Speaker 2: I'm sure inadvertent but quite real, and then they had

525
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Speaker 2: to stop it. Here's what I'll say. The big takeaway

526
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Speaker 2: I had for me was that who did this ultimately benefit? Right,

527
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Speaker 2: whether you agree with the call or not agree with

528
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Speaker 2: the call, who got the benefit there? And the answer

529
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Speaker 2: has to be vedem Nemkov. I think he was troubled

530
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Speaker 2: by some of the game of Corey Anderson, the mixing

531
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Speaker 2: up of the levels and then the takedowns obviously were

532
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Speaker 2: a big part of it. This gives him a second

533
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Speaker 2: chance to get that right in a way where making

534
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Speaker 2: those adjustments in the middle of the fight are going

535
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Speaker 2: to be much much harder than between them. I think

536
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Speaker 2: this is going to be a harder fight for Corey Anderson.

537
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Speaker 2: But now he tells us he understands that he's going

538
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Speaker 2: to have some new twists. I look forward to seeing

539
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Speaker 2: what they are.

540
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Nemcov benefits from the way this went down.

541
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Speaker 3: I mean, how could it have gone differently if it

542
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Speaker 3: had gotten to the end of that round, the third round,

543
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Speaker 3: would it have now been an official fight and would

544
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Speaker 3: this have been in Anderson victory by technical decision?

545
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Speaker 2: Luke? Uh, what are the rules has to go past

546
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Speaker 2: two and a half rounds? Something like that?

547
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Speaker 3: Okay, this was this was midway of the third that

548
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: they are you know, toward the end of the third

549
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Speaker 3: that this happened.

550
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot remember the exact the exact rules, I believe.

551
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, what's the what's the alternative, what's

552
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: the alternative that Anderson wins the title here and we

553
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Speaker 3: get a you know, off of that accidental cut if

554
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: it went to the cards, and then we get a

555
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: rematch anyway, I mean, it doesn't change much outside of

556
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Speaker 3: you know, Anderson cash in it on that million, but

557
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Speaker 3: you'd rather see it won the right way, So kind

558
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Speaker 3: of a throwback to your original question about the potential changes.

559
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Speaker 3: It's like Luke Vadem Memkoff is at his best when

560
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: he's when it's like a running back, when he can

561
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Speaker 3: start early going downhill, when he can work behind that

562
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Speaker 3: heavy jab in those kicks, I mean, he hurts you it.

563
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Speaker 3: People can crumble under that pressure. When he's in there

564
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Speaker 3: against more of a you know, point fighter like Davis

565
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Speaker 3: who can go long distances, he's still able to use

566
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Speaker 3: the power and the thread of it to make sure

567
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Speaker 3: that he gets off enough where he's going to get

568
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Speaker 3: the knot on the scorecards in those closed fights Anderson

569
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Speaker 3: represents it seems a completely different type of challenge for

570
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Speaker 3: what we've seen from Vadim in his best win so far,

571
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Speaker 3: somebody that can put him in situations he doesn't want.

572
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Speaker 3: So my natural reaction was not only to mention the

573
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Speaker 3: increase in cardio that he's going to need, but here's

574
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Speaker 3: my kind of critical question on that, cam Nemkough, even

575
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Speaker 3: with increased cardio, still be that downhill runner when he's

576
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Speaker 3: allowed to set the terms and take the lead offensively

577
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Speaker 3: and protect the threat of the takedown at the same time,

578
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Speaker 3: I've got doubts. I've got legit doubts here, right.

579
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Speaker 2: I think that's a great point because one kind of

580
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: undercuts the ability of the other. Would he could do both,

581
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Speaker 2: He could probably thread that needle, but it would reduce

582
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Speaker 2: the capability of his offense. It would reduce the vitality

583
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Speaker 2: and sort of the rhythm that he can kind of

584
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Speaker 2: get into at times. I guess we'll have to see

585
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Speaker 2: it's a fun one. We'll go into greater detail on Friday.

586
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: But BC, let's talk about this co main event, because

587
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: this is just a phenomenal content. This is the one

588
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Speaker 2: I like the most. And it's not because it's the

589
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: most competitive. The fact the main event vedem Nemkov and

590
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: Cory Anderson's far more competitive, at least on paper. But

591
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: it's Petricky Freday PETRICKI Pitbull. This is the older brother

592
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: one to fifty five defending his Bella Tour title against

593
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Speaker 2: the ascendant USPAN number Gameydov. Now b see. One of

594
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Speaker 2: the big things that Petricky pit Bull has been telling

595
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: everyone who will listen is that USBIN doesn't have a

596
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Speaker 2: win over anyone ranked in the top ten for men's lightweight.

597
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Speaker 2: Let me read you what men's lightweight is right now,

598
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Speaker 2: Obviously Petricky is the champion. Nimber Goamedov's your number one contender.

599
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: He's four to zero in Belatour. Then Benson Henderson Tofique Musaiev,

600
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Speaker 2: Sydney Outlaw, Alexander Shabili, Shabilee Shubilee, Brent Premis, Islam Mamadov,

601
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Speaker 2: aj McKee, and then Peter Kleeely. I looked up the

602
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Speaker 2: resume of Petricky Pippelell. I's like, well, how many of

603
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Speaker 2: these top ten wins does he have? One? He has

604
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Speaker 2: a win over Peter Kueely. He hasn't fought aj McKee

605
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Speaker 2: or Islam Mamoedov, or Brent Premis, or Alexander Shabeli or

606
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Speaker 2: Sidney Outlaw. He did fight Tofique Musayev in Rizen and lost,

607
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: and then you have Benson Henderson and now it Usbinnamdeov.

608
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: So to me, it's a fairly hollow criticism.

609
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: I have to tell you, yeah, it is fairly hollow.

610
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean there there is a you know, look, Patricky's

611
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: battle test. He's been around forever, he's always fought the best.

612
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: No one, no one here is going to disparage him.

613
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a little there's a little bit

614
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: of a little log bignog difference between the brothers. Without question,

615
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Speaker 3: he has.

616
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Speaker 2: A whatever Benson Henderson, I apologize he has a split

617
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: decision at Bilt on a three and twenty seventeen.

618
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Speaker 3: Well, not only does he lack the wins over the

619
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Speaker 3: current top ten guys, but the way he came into

620
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Speaker 3: the title, with his brother giving it up, with him

621
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Speaker 3: getting a rematch against the guy in Peter Quilly who

622
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: had just beaten him the fight before. That's not the

623
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: you know, the typical way someone climbs the ladder now

624
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: and gets into the title position and then wins it. Now,

625
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: some of that might be due to you know, him

626
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: having been around forever. He's a consistent celebrity name in

627
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: this weight class and he's always tough. But no, he

628
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: didn't that. That is a hollow stance to hang on.

629
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Speaker 3: And when you look at these I mean minus six

630
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: hundred usman Nerbagha Medov plus four point fifty the champion,

631
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: you right away want to be like, nah, these are

632
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: boxing odds. It can't possibly be. That's not the reality

633
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: of this fight. It might actually be the reality of

634
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: this fight because Ustan Normaga Medov is scary good and

635
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: it doesn't necessarily matter that those four fights that he

636
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: had to get to this point weren't against world because

637
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: sometimes sometimes it just screened. I mean, a guy just

638
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 3: jumps through your screen. Sometimes that's what Usman Nermaga Medov

639
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: has been. Yeah, he's got the pressure of being Habib's cousin,

640
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: coming up under the same tree, and oh yes, first

641
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: name is also Usman. So it's like you better be

642
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: able to wrestle, but he can. He's he's he's more

643
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: in the variety of you know Dagistan two point zero

644
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: or from the coach abdulman app Rip coaching tree. Meaning

645
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: Habib was so great at one freaking skill, but he

646
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: got the other stuff, you know, rounded it out enough

647
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: to still lean on that skill. But look at Islam

648
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: Mahchev who just came out, you know, in his first

649
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: title opportunity to but real step up fight, he blew

650
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: the doors off of Charles Olivera to the point where

651
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: we're like, man, this this the next generation of the

652
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: of the Habib's that come from abdulman App. They are different,

653
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: they're more dynamic, they're more well rounded. That's exactly what usman.

654
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: Andr Malghamedov screams to us that he might be and

655
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: he's like twenty three years old too, on top of

656
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: that sixteen and oh, I mean this guy, it might

657
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: be time luke. And you know that's not to mention

658
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: that from a marketing standpoint, you want Abib in your

659
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: corner wearing a Belle to m May shirt. Yeah, it's

660
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: good move by the promotion here to give usman the

661
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: title opportunity. Now, you know, this is the division that

662
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: did recently at aj McKee and is probably more likely

663
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: that McKee operates in this division moving forward. The future

664
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: is bright in this division. Look, the real question entering

665
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: this fight on Friday night is can the old veteran

666
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: do anything to disrupt this migration and this turnover to

667
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: the new blood that's coming. The odds tell you hell no.

668
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: Recent history might tell you hell no. But what are

669
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: we we meaning everyone right now, what are we potentially

670
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: missing and it might not be what are we missing

671
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: in Patrichy? What are we potentially overvaluing in usmanner Maga

672
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: Metov that could come out over five rounds against somebody

673
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: who's got knockout power, who's been there, before, even if

674
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: he's not as nearly as dynamic as his young kid.

675
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm really glad they showed this takedown here.

676
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: This is the one I think Chris Gonzalez from his

677
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: last fight where he bates a movement to score a

678
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: knee tap. Knee tap doesn't work, That's okay because he

679
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: keeps his base. He then transitions immediately to a guillotine

680
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: grip with an underhook, switches to then a power guillotine,

681
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: and then finishes the show like, why would do people

682
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: believe in usmannerburga made off? Yeah, okay, he's got the

683
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: last name, as you indicated, BC, but why do people

684
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: believe in him? Here is a very good reason you

685
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: saw it there with that takedown. The level of skill

686
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: mastery that he already shows is so far beyond on

687
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: what the record can tell you and what the opponents

688
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: can help you understand. You get these little windows of

689
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: absolute technical mastery, like supreme level mastery. Not just with

690
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: understanding the technical progression of what an attack should look like,

691
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: but the timing is perfect, the hand placement is perfect,

692
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: the way which he rotates into position is you can

693
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: tell he's been doing this very well. Even though he's

694
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: quite young for a very long time. That is why

695
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: people have high belief in him is because if you

696
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: actually know what you're looking for and then you watch

697
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: him execute it, it is done fucking textbook. That's why

698
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: he is legit and BC. We just went over this

699
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: with the main event from UFC two eighty. Charles Olivera's

700
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: resume was certainly much better than Islam Makachev's heading into

701
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: that fight. That much was not up for debate. One

702
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: guy's resume clearly had better wins on it to that point,

703
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: but we kept saying, dude, this guy Makachev just has

704
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: he's defensively set, he makes good decisions, blah blah blah.

705
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: We went through it all the whole time. Sure enough,

706
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: he goes in there and just runs the fucking table

707
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: on Charles Olivera. I'm absolutely expecting something like that on

708
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: Friday night. I think Usinva made off. He could be seen.

709
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: To your point about Patricky. The reason why you should

710
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: have some trepidation and why I do think these odds

711
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: are a little bit out of whack is because dude, PETRICKI.

712
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Pitbull is a veteran. He has seen a lot of

713
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 2: different looks he is well trained. I would say he's

714
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: the best version of himself that he's ever been. Heavy Handed,

715
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: good team, good corner like. Those are things you should

716
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: absolutely take seriously, and a guy who doesn't have experience

717
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: against them you have to have some level of respect

718
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: for that. But on the other side, the other things

719
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: we've seen the muse Minerva gat made off are simply unmistakable.

720
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: I would be of all the things that could happen

721
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 2: this weekend, him not claiming the belt would be to

722
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: me the most surprising, and by by a wide margin.

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to, you know, selfishly, I'd like to

724
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: see this go rounds. I'd like to see Husmander Magamedov

725
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: have to make adjustments, you know. I mean, there's that

726
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: chance he just comes out here and just blows us away.

727
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: And this is you know, that statement about But I

728
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: do want to learn a little bit more. Can Petricky

729
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: make him do that? We're gonna have to wait and see.

730
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: But look, is it possible?

731
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: Now?

732
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Speaker 3: It's it's tough to make this question audible because not

733
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: only is Sabib just such a unique all time talent,

734
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: and and you know, and all the intangibles are just sick,

735
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: but so does Islam. Mahachev look to be, and up

736
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: to this point, so does Usman der Malgamedov, although look,

737
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: he's got to be you know, some much bigger names

738
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: before we can include that. But that's the setup for

739
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: me to say this. We talk so much once Abib

740
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: retired and then it was clear he was going to

741
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: become Islam's coach, and then it was like, okay, you

742
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: got this potential Habib two point oh. We talked about

743
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: the whole Like, man, that's a lot of pressure to

744
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: put on any of these guys from Daugustan. There's just

745
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: automatically gonna be good as Abib. Is there a chance

746
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: we have that scenario out of whack and these guys

747
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: are going to consistently be better, not every single one

748
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: but Islam. You know, you could argue Islam's the best

749
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: player in the world right now. I mean literally, like

750
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: he's got he's screaming some of those things, even though

751
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: let's give him a chance to prove it. But usmaner

752
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: Mockamtov looks freaking special, like it. I can't one time

753
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: in a day in some like fill in the blank

754
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: category or over under or something I asked you, is

755
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: there you know what would have to happen for Habib's

756
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: resume as a coach to one day outweigh that what

757
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: he did as a twenty nine to oh fighter who

758
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: retired on his own terms. You know, I'm wondering if

759
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: this this team might we might have no idea what

760
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: the entire school the team is capable of. Yeah, it

761
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: might be a different conversation. At the end of the day, Luke,

762
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: that doesn't even It's not even about Habib anymore. He

763
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: was just the first and the best that could happen.

764
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: That could happen. Yeah, we'll have to see. I mean again,

765
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 2: Makachev did great against Charles Lavera. Will see what Usman

766
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: can do. Here. There's two clips. I'm gonna skip the

767
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: one on him not deserving a title shot because I

768
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: just think that's a fucking silly, ridiculous argument, but the

769
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: one about Usman speaking about coach Abib and what it

770
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: all means. He actually was asked this and addressed it.

771
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say.

772
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 7: Everybody wants to get better, everybody's hungry, everybody's learning every day.

773
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 7: They're getting experienced from the champions, from people who already

774
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 7: been through it, but you know again, it's like uh

775
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 7: old elderly leaving, the new generation is coming.

776
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: That was, of course, Shaquille Missouri of CBS Sports. You

777
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: can follow his shack MMA channel for more. But were

778
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: they trying to induce a seizure out of us with

779
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: that shaky cam? Look?

780
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a lot there. That was a lot there.

781
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: But you get the idea. A guy like coach Sabibe,

782
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: he's incredible, not just he he brought to another group

783
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: of young guys the same things he did to dictate

784
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: his own championship run. He is forcing them to do

785
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: and dude, he's got a real clear either you're gonna

786
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: do this or you're not gonna do this. And if

787
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: you're not going to do this, the door is that way.

788
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: And that's just what it is.

789
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: The proofs in the pudding in terms of this whole

790
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: Habibaz coach thing, if it's going to take off and

791
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: be legendary. But he's taken the structural foundation of what

792
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: his dad taught him and so many others in that school,

793
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: and now added in that experience edge as just a

794
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: no nonsense, absolute badass, always ready down to fight anybody.

795
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: At any time, like when I hear these comments from

796
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: Bala Mohamma who just joined that team about you know,

797
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 3: in the various interviews, what's it like dealing with coach

798
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: of BIB. Yeah, dude, this this uh this statement, I

799
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: don't know, like maybe this this this super team Luke,

800
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: They're they're they're about to make some noise. Okay, brig

801
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: hashtag Holy Hammer across the entire family and region.

802
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: Okay, not gonna go through the whole card, but a

803
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: couple other fights here to keep a note. Daniel Weischerl

804
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: taking on the undefeated Tim Moore. Kizriev. I did some

805
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: tape study on Timore Kizriev another one of these fucking

806
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: hammers from Dakistan. A very very good top control, very

807
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: good wrestling, very good mixing of subs into takedowns like

808
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: you just saw there with Usmann Murger Madoff getting the

809
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: trip and then going over to the to the power

810
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: guillotine Tyrol Fortune taken on Daniel James. The one I

811
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: want folks to pay attention to is the opener. It

812
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: looks like on the main card. Remember this name, and

813
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: no it's not Bala Mohammed Roman Feraldo Roman Ferraaldo's taken

814
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: on Lavon Jokoli is a guy out of Georgia. Good boxer,

815
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: has had some losses from grappling, I think, but is

816
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: a pretty good like striker. Roman Feraldo is an unbelievable striker,

817
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: can do all different kinds of magic tricks on the feet,

818
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: not fully tested in the in the in the larger

819
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: depths of the game. This one is a sort of

820
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: a stylistically, I think, a favorable matchup for him, although

821
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: Jokoli is obviously very good on the feet as well,

822
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: but you know, he doesn't have to worry about wrestling

823
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: in that sense. But Roman Feraldo is a fucking high

824
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: light reel. If you've not seen him, believe me when

825
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: I tell you you need to make time for him.

826
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Just look him up on YouTube. He's got all those

827
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: things on a different highlights.

828
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: The good news is that fans of have you seen

829
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: this shit, I've probably seen every single one of his

830
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: belator fights in that segment because he's a you know,

831
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: with I'm looking at it real quick, all stoppages all

832
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: you know, all all by knockout, a referee, stoppage, flying

833
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: knees in there. I mean shout out to Beltor for

834
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: putting him on the main card now early, now getting

835
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: ahead of that, because yeah, this guy is you know,

836
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: well let's see, but you know, you step up. Remember

837
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: vive Gozali was ripping off submissions left and right and

838
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: then stepped up and lost. So you do got to

839
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: come out here improve it. But look, I love this

840
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 3: card really seriously. This is gonna be a good one

841
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: Chicago Friday night. Do you have a start time here

842
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 3: on showtime?

843
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: Nine pm in the east, all right, all right, eight

844
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: pm in the East. All right, So we'll go to

845
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 2: one in just a second. Let's go to UFC, which

846
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: is on Saturday. B See, this card is not that awesome,

847
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: not that awesome. UFC Fighting Night. Derek Lewis taken on

848
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: Sergei Spivak. That's your main event. Obviously there's some other

849
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: fights on the card. We'll get to in just a second.

850
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that main event, heavyweight main event, five rounds.

851
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: I do not expect it to go five rounds and

852
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: BC here's kind of the interesting part. Sergai Spivak is

853
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: not his not faced anyone, I should say, He's not

854
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: defeated anyone quite as high ranked as Derek Lewis, that

855
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: would be new, but he's on a surge. Derek Lewis,

856
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: on the other hand, we don't know. So this is

857
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: my question for you. Is he on the true decline?

858
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: Because Sergei Spivac could be knocked out, but on the

859
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: ground he has good takedowns, he's got good subs. Could

860
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: be a bad matchup for him. In fact, he's the

861
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: favorite and minus one ninety five to Derek Lewis at

862
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: plus one sixty five. Are we about to watch the

863
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: unraveling of Derek Lewis?

864
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: It feels that way. It's also felt that way before.

865
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: Now Have things ever been this dire for Derek Lewis

866
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: heading into this fight? No, they really haven't, Luke, And

867
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: he's also fighting a guy who, as you sort of

868
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: set up does it, does, seem to be ready to

869
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: find out how good he can be. Sergey Spivak has

870
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: won five of his last six and he's dominated that

871
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: certain tier of of you know, the Augusto Siguis, the Alexiolenix,

872
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: the Jared Venderaz, those guys. I mean, he sent Greg

873
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: Hardy to Hell in less than a couple of and

874
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: it's he of course lost when he stepped up and

875
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: got stopped by tom asminll On in the first round, but

876
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: he's letting you know where he's at. Levels wise, he

877
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: beats Derek Lewis, he gets the opportunity to go to

878
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: that next level and look shout out to Moldova, which

879
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: is representative here in the main event and the Coal

880
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Maine event, so double shot of moldolf Mania here. But

881
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, it's Sergey Spieveck, a guy who's

882
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: not yet thirty can do some things. He's the guy

883
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: that he's screaming that he's that he's ready to get

884
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: to that next level. I'm not sure yet. I'm not

885
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: fully come around on this guy, even though again he's

886
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: beating the guys that you're supposed to if you're ready

887
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: to this point. But it does all come down to

888
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis because those losses and he's now three of

889
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 3: his last four, they've been awful in some ways. Okay,

890
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: Like you know, when he stepped up against Gon for

891
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: the interim title, I mean he didn't show up that night.

892
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, there was the hometown thing, of course,

893
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 3: the pressure on him, but he absolutely did not show

894
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: up and then got stopped by a guy who we

895
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: weren't looking at as a you know, as a finisher

896
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: striking wise in that fight, and you know the ty

897
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: two Ivasa won and you know two of us is

898
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: better than we knew at the time. Yes, but Lewis

899
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: imploded and got knocked around and eventually fell apart, which

900
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: he tends to do when he steps up to the

901
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: highest level. But Luke, it's that last fight that's gotta

902
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: have you more scared than the others. You know, there's

903
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: been hints that Derek Lewis was ready to go. I

904
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 3: always thought after the loss to Cormuate for the title,

905
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: we'd never see him motivated again. But he's now thirty seven.

906
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: And that last fighting question against Sergey Pavlovich in July, Dude,

907
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: that was fifty five seconds he just folded. Uh could

908
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: he shock you if you put plus money on him

909
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: and get a big knockout here? Of course, And that's

910
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: you know, always going to be the calling card. But Luke,

911
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: how much do we look at the Pavlovich one, because

912
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: that's not always stepped up against God and he was

913
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: gonna lose it anyway, And he may have talked himself

914
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: out of trying his best, and that's not hey man,

915
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: he got into a war with two of vasa. Shit happens, dude,

916
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: that was like fifty five seconds and you're done, dude.

917
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: You gotta be you gotta be nervous for what this means. Right.

918
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: The thing that was like was the Taie to Ivasa

919
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: loss a turning point, and again we don't know that yet,

920
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 2: but I mean the commonality is Gonza not a huge puncher,

921
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: but he's sort of technically overwhelming. Tuivasa a big puncher,

922
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 2: Pavlovich a big puncher. Now, Spivak is not a weak

923
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: puncher by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't

924
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: say he's a big puncher. He can land with accuracy,

925
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: he can land with power, but mostly if he wins,

926
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: I would imagine he would win with his some level

927
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: of his grappling game mixed in. There could be grinded

928
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: pound as a part of that, like a TKO finish

929
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: is certainly in play, but more than that, other forms

930
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: of control and whatnot. So I don't know if this

931
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: is exactly the same kind of threat, which is why

932
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: if he gets you know, bludgeoned here, that would be like,

933
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: well that's bad. You're right, man, I you know you

934
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: look at that Brad Riddell situation right where he had

935
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: I think three losses in a row, but it was

936
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: the loss to I think was at the Jalen Turner

937
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: loss where I just after that he just didn't quite

938
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: look the same. He got two first round losses back

939
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: to back. Now here we are burying Derek Lewis. He

940
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: could come out and just blow the doors off of

941
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: Sergei Spivak, but he's lost three of his last four,

942
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: and again, the gone one you can you can ride off,

943
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: especially because he came back out after that and knocked

944
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: the Jesus out of Chris Dacas.

945
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: I want to stop you there. I want to stop

946
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: you there. I'm not gonna take the wheel. I'm just

947
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: gonna interject this and you can pick up. I want

948
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: to stop you. I don't feel like you can write

949
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: off the gone one when he's had two more in

950
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: succession with them. Obviously the one uh Dawcas not got

951
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: in between. The show has just still got life. But

952
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: even though again you can make the argument that that's

953
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: a horrible style matchup, he's never gonna LOOKO against God.

954
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he absolutely imploded. So there's a difference.

955
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: When Derek Lewis is not injured, he's a much different fighter.

956
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: There's obviously a difference when he's motivated enough to get

957
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: in great shape. But it was like it's like in

958
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: those fights, the second he discovered resistance, he was done.

959
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: And when that happens, Luke, sometimes you can repair that

960
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: if you had a bad camp or you were hurt

961
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: or whatever, do the fair has to be that it

962
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: is gone. And I don't think you look back at

963
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: that God one and just go, oh yeah, whatever. He

964
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: was never gonna win that dude. He straight up shit

965
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: the bed in that one. I hate to say that, Luke,

966
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: It's unfair for me in my basement to say that.

967
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: But would you agree that there is this there's a

968
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: spot in his death star where he can be imploded

969
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: to nothing and you know, once or twice that's okay.

970
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: But we're on a pattern run right now.

971
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: It could be true. I mean, he's had back to

972
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: back losses before, all the way back in twenty eighteen

973
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: and twenty nineteen, but that was to Daniel Cormier and

974
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: Junior Dos Santos. Like, so here's the thing. BC It's like,

975
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: I do think for him it's hard to shake off

976
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: the losses a little bit, especially as he gets older.

977
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: It's a little hard to get things going again. And

978
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: at thirty seven, that's gonna be the hardest that's been

979
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: certainly in his life. Yeah, yeah, I do think you're

980
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: onto something. It could be that case. On the other hand, BC,

981
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: what do we say if all of this analysis ends

982
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: up being totally wrong. He looks sharp, he defensed take downs,

983
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: or he gets taken down but doesn't take a ton

984
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: of punishment, shows life gets up, you know, the kind

985
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: of classic, kind of Derek Lewis experience that you're used to,

986
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: and then goes and just blows the doors off of Spivak.

987
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: It wouldn't necessarily change what his ultimate upside is, but

988
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: I do think it would have a massive change about

989
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: where his current level ability is because one more time,

990
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Serge Spivak has looked the best he's ever looked in

991
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: this division. So he'd be beating a good fighter on

992
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: his rise. Right as we're kind of being like, well,

993
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: is this the end?

994
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, you're right, And for as long as he

995
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: shows legitimate danger in life as a product, losses are

996
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: never going to tell the full story on him, because

997
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: he's the perfect TV fighter. He can beat anybody on

998
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: any given night. All that, But what you just said

999
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 3: sets up perfectly the true stakes in this fight. If

1000
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: he goes in there and knocks out Spivak in around

1001
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: or around and a half, yeah, we forget about what

1002
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: recently happened. No, we don't look at him as a

1003
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: title contender necessarily, but we can go back to again

1004
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: believing sea level Kane motivated BJ every couple fights, you know,

1005
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis, But if he loses, and if he gets

1006
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: stopped or if he gases, that's the thing, Like, you're

1007
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: only relevant with defeats if you bring a certain product

1008
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: to the table, excitement, or you're a great test for

1009
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: the young guys on the way up. But those implosive

1010
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: losses that he's had, in my opinion, although obviously they're

1011
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: fueled by people hitting him really hard, but I think

1012
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: you get my point. He just gone the fight's over,

1013
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: those suggest something different that if he loses this one,

1014
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, you don't even get caught,

1015
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: but you take a fall. I mean, he didn't take

1016
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: a fall with a loss here, Luke, this is this

1017
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: is This would be bad bad.

1018
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: It could be quite bad. Now you mentioned the co

1019
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: main event. I don't really have a lot to say

1020
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: about this one. Ion kute Laba or how you pronounced

1021
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: his first name, I can never.

1022
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 3: Remember correct Ewan Luke ew that's.

1023
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: Great Elaba taking on Kennedy and zhqu fine fight at

1024
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: two o five. Not significant stakes out of fortist MMA,

1025
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: huge reach as a winner for Carl Robson heading into this,

1026
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: but consecutive losses to Nicolai and Nika Moran who just

1027
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: lost to Carlos Olberg on Saturday, and then Dot Un

1028
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Jung And in the case of Ewan kute Lava, he's

1029
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: off a two fight losing streak, albeit against much better competition.

1030
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Span and Johnny Walker, do you see any strong

1031
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: thoughts about this one?

1032
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 3: No, it's not a great fight now, it could play

1033
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: out fun in the end, and maybe there's a hunch

1034
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: in that. And certainly the winner is going to be

1035
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: able to put the recent past if he's behind them

1036
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 3: and you know, try to in theories start and create

1037
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: new life and are both in a spot where they

1038
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: could do that where we haven't seen the best of

1039
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: him yet of course, But no, Luke, the rest of

1040
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: this card outside of the one, two or three ones,

1041
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: there's some gems.

1042
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: Second, there's some gems on this right.

1043
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: So what I said was the rest of this card

1044
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: outside of the one, two and three fights that we're

1045
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: going to identify in a second. If we get past three, Luke,

1046
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: I'll be shocked. My point is, no, I don't love

1047
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: this as a cole man. I don't love Chase Sherman

1048
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: against Waldo Cortes Acosta after that, even though you know

1049
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: why Chase Sherman is in the spot because he comes

1050
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: to bang and he's gonna make fun TV. But yeah,

1051
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: let's get into more of the hardcore variety here. So

1052
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: here's super sloppies too. What do you like the most here?

1053
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: The main card opener? Once again, Belltor picked a fire

1054
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: main card opener, so did UFC. Jack DALEA Madalena, one

1055
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: of the top prospects in the sport in the sport,

1056
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Jack Dale Madlena taking on Danny Hot Sauce. I think

1057
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: his name is Hot Sauce Robertsory. Maybe it's hot hot chocolate,

1058
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: hot chocolate. Yeah, what's his name?

1059
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: You lost your brittin, you lost your Dan brain today?

1060
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, dude, I'm to be quite candid with you.

1061
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: It is what it is, what it is, all right, BC.

1062
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: I love this one. Jack Daleen Madalina, coming off of

1063
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: the Contender series some time ago, I think twenty where

1064
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: one was that twenty twenty one? Since then, has beaten

1065
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: Pete Rodriguez in Ramazan EMIV in UFC. But dude, his

1066
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: striking looks so fluid. He can do so many different things.

1067
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: He can attack the body in the head, he can mix,

1068
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: he can switch dances. He is just a clever, clever striker.

1069
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: Dan Roberts has had some good moments in the octagon.

1070
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: He also has a win over Ramazan to me, although

1071
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: that was via split, but he had the loss to

1072
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Messa Renduba more recently in UFC two seventy four Francisco Tronaldo.

1073
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: You have to love this one. A battle of strikers,

1074
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: very very clever guys, well trained, well experienced. What do

1075
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: you think, BC? This is am I right to highlight

1076
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: this one.

1077
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: You are I mean, in one case, it's nearly five

1078
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: to one odds in the favor of mister Madleena, mister

1079
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 3: Jack Della Madalena. Hey, you didn't you didn't think I

1080
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: was going to pull out the Uh well, who's sang that? Luke?

1081
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: Who is that?

1082
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't listen to. Uh bullshit?

1083
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: Is that mc brains?

1084
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 8: No?

1085
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Who? Who?

1086
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: Who recorded that great hit? Mister Dobbelina? You know that one?

1087
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: Look I had that on cassette single. Okay, well look

1088
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 3: at me with not being able to remember the name.

1089
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: The point is this, while he's a five to one favorite, basically,

1090
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: you know, Danny Roberts is kind of the right test

1091
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 3: on this early early rise for him all the things

1092
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 3: you mentioned skill wise, technique wise, he's got a punch

1093
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: as well. But he seems mentally to be like all

1094
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: about it. And I mean all the guys, everybody wants

1095
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: all the smoke right and you know, especially this great

1096
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: all the smoke could he right here? But he does

1097
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: seem to be like his understanding of the game mixed

1098
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: with his confidence is ahead of where he's actually at

1099
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: right now. And that's when you start to get that

1100
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: itch like we got something special here, we got somebody promising.

1101
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 3: Has though in the first two fights that he's given

1102
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: us on the UFC level at all, Luke, has it

1103
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: shown you that there's any defensive holes. Does he get

1104
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: hit too much? What are your thoughts of this one?

1105
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't have his numbers in front of me. We

1106
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: can go over this more on Friday. I don't think

1107
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: he gets hit too much. There is a question of

1108
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: his game's well roundedness a little bit, I want to

1109
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: say questions, I mean glaring ones, but just sort of

1110
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: like where exactly is the limit? Where are the strengths

1111
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. We haven't had a full

1112
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: sense of it. And again, UFC, I think is doing

1113
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: the right thing here. They're giving him a striker, well,

1114
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: a tough, a guy with nearly thirty fights. Not hardly

1115
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: some scrub, but a guy who's gonna, you know, tilt

1116
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: the game, tilt their fight a little bit more of

1117
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: the direction. I think dalea Battelena likes to fight. So

1118
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: still some bigger questions to be clear. But this is

1119
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: just a guy who if you're not paying attention, you

1120
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: really really really should. He is destined for something, probably

1121
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: pretty special.

1122
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: He's from Australia, Luke, I was gonna guess, I was

1123
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: gonna guess that he was Welsh. I forgot that. I've

1124
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: heard the Australian accident out of him before, and I

1125
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: can't believe you didn't correct me with the Dell the

1126
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: Funky Homo Sapien. That was the the artist in question

1127
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 3: of that great hit.

1128
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: Didn't really listen to del the Funky Homo Sapien. If

1129
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: I can be carring, Oh.

1130
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: God, I was a huge. I appreciate your candidacy. I

1131
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: was here to be going to candidacy. Luke DT seniors

1132
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: back and Colby has woken up and chosen violence. He

1133
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: has publicly backed on social media Donald Trump and not

1134
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: this this high riser, this young up and comer in

1135
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis.

1136
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: Are you it's going to be interesting. It's gonna be interesting,

1137
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: all right. Two other fights on this card BC that

1138
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna care about. One twenty five. It's

1139
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: on the prelim card. Jennifer Maya is back against Marina Morouse.

1140
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: Is this the BC super sloppy special where we are

1141
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: on this show?

1142
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: It's not, but it's in contention for that.

1143
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 2: Look.

1144
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: No, this is actually an interesting fight here because Marina Moreause,

1145
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: she's making a lot of attention for the things she

1146
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: signed up for outside the cage. Business wise, Hey, cool

1147
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 3: on her, Luke, right, I don't know if you follow

1148
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: her on Instagram, but she's also I think she's going

1149
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: to be Yeah, I haven't, I haven't, you know, I

1150
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: haven't seen that stuff. But you know, I would only

1151
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: read the articles anyway. Look good. You remember when people

1152
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: used to say that as like a classy dirt bag

1153
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: dad joke. You know, Oh, I only read it for

1154
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: the articles. Yeah, but you just out of yourself as

1155
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: an absolute dirhole. I mean it was quite It was

1156
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 3: considered classy in the eighties for dads to have side mags,

1157
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: right or no.

1158
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: Not even just the eighties. I had friend, dude, I

1159
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: had fraternity brothers who, like, would live off campus. You

1160
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: go to their bathrooms and have a stack of playboys.

1161
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: By the shame, these are college frat kids. I'm not

1162
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: talking I was talking about like dads. I wasn't talking

1163
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: about like you know, it's a lot.

1164
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: Of college frat kids just thirty years older and sadder.

1165
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: All Right.

1166
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: I like this fight because it's going to tell us

1167
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: exactly where Marina Morouse is as a rising contender. And

1168
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: she's had some good wins lately, Luke, and she's you know,

1169
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 3: really starting to put it together, it seems Jennifer Mayah.

1170
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: I don't think she's at the stock that she once

1171
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: was at the time she fought for the title. And

1172
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: let's give her credit, man, you know, I mean, Tyler

1173
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: Santos pushed Valentina the most at one twenty five, but

1174
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: Jennifer Majah made things interesting in that fight. Since then,

1175
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the loss she had Luke

1176
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: that scared me? Do you remember that. I'm gonna look

1177
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: it up real quick. Who Jennifer Mayah.

1178
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: Jennifer Maiah had a loss that scared you?

1179
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: Scared me on on the direction she's going. Okay, so

1180
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: it's the back to back decision back.

1181
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: To me.

1182
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: So she comes out of that title shot, looks good

1183
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: in a loss, beats Jess guy you should have and

1184
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 3: then it's the back to back decision defeats to Caitlyn

1185
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: Chukagian and now Manol Ferrou. Now I'll take it back.

1186
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm not concerned on any of those in particular. I

1187
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: didn't see an implosion, but I did see back to

1188
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: back losses against two of the top contenders who just

1189
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 3: fought by the way for a potential number one contender spot.

1190
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: So this is the right fight at the right time.

1191
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: To find out about Moros, but on the flip side,

1192
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: to see if Jennifer Maiah still has it. Here, we

1193
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: know what Jennifer Maiah can do on the ground, Luke,

1194
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: when she's able to get off with her power shots,

1195
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 3: though on the feet she's twice as dangerous. She can't

1196
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: always do that against every opponent. She had problems finding

1197
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: manon Farou consistently. But when you look at what's going

1198
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: to be asked to both of them style wise, it's

1199
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: a good ass fight. That's why I don't put the

1200
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: super sloppy name tag on it.

1201
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Luke.

1202
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: This is a good fight for one twenty five. Are

1203
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: you in on it?

1204
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it's a great fight. I actually like it

1205
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: a lot. It's on the prelim card, so you know,

1206
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: people might make a judgment about it and it's worthiness

1207
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: by virtue of its card placement. But no, I actually

1208
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: like it a lot. But there are some big questions

1209
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: like Marina Morouse, how good is she? Jennifer Mayah, how

1210
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: good is she? Still right? So you're getting a bit

1211
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: of a coming in and going and Moro's is not.

1212
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is Maya has losses to back

1213
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: to back to Chikegian and Froh. Right, these kind of

1214
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: like distance jabbers and you know, long range kickers. Moro's

1215
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: can kind of play that game, but isn't so discipline

1216
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: with it in the way that Chukegan and Fiorro are.

1217
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: So it has some echoes of those fights, but still

1218
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: is very much its own one. So well, here's to

1219
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: see if she can overcome.

1220
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: The problem for Morose is she's had five fights in

1221
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: six years. That's really the problem. And you know there

1222
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: were two back to back decision defeats to Barza and

1223
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: Angela Hill there, and she's bounced back nicely. She's on

1224
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: a three fight losing I'm sorry, a three fight winning

1225
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: streak come in. But again, those three fights took place

1226
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: over like a four year period, so it is tough

1227
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: to figure out exactly where who she is and where

1228
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: she's going. The second round submission went over a Goppova

1229
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 3: excuse me Apov in March. Obviously that's the big eye opener.

1230
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 3: You know, it was nasty, she went about her business,

1231
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: and you know, I love the pace she set, the

1232
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: intentions she had. Now you have to ask yourself, is

1233
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: a Gopova going in the wrong direction? And you know,

1234
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: not going to live up to some of that early

1235
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: pandemic hype that she hoped that she showed. That's certainly

1236
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: in play. But if that's who who moros could be

1237
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: moving forward, and if she's able to do that against

1238
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: somebody as tough as Maya, that's real. You know what's

1239
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: at stake in here? Yeah, this should probably be on

1240
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: the main card, Looke, this has better stakes than most

1241
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: of these fights.

1242
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 4: Let's be fair, all right.

1243
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: And then the one that I know you really, I

1244
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: mean you must just you're not gonna have pants on

1245
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: for this fight? Yeah, I see that Maria del Lavera

1246
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: taking on Vanessa Demopolis. We actually saw Vanessa ware at

1247
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 2: the at the Jake Paul fight right right, Yeah, at.

1248
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: The Jake Paul Way and when we were interviewing GSP.

1249
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: I think she was there, like as a media member.

1250
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the deal was, but uh, you

1251
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: know this is your BC super sloppy special of the week, Okay,

1252
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: and I know you always be she can watch with

1253
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: your pants off. No, none of that stuff, Luke. I

1254
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: just love really high theatrical women's mma. That's batchit crazy

1255
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: and goes back and forth shades of like remember the

1256
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: first Ronda Rousey Misha Teg fight under strikeforced label. That

1257
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 3: fight was all over the place. But Notasa Demopolis makes

1258
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: crazy fights that are all over the place. She'll take

1259
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: big damage. She's a threat to score surprise submissions after

1260
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: doing so. She's a dog ug in there.

1261
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

1262
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: Anytime she fights Luke, she's becoming musty TV. And now

1263
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: obviously the the you know, the extra training she does

1264
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: on the poll and she's proud about it that you know,

1265
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: that makes fun headlines. But she could she could fight.

1266
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: She's got the fighting spirit. The question is can she

1267
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: fight at this level consistently every time she comes out?

1268
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm here to see it. Maria Olivera is going to

1269
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 3: provide the challenge as the slight betting favorite minus one

1270
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: p fifteen to Uh. I'm sorry, No, Demopolis is minus

1271
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: one oh five, so this is a virtual pick them.

1272
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: But don't forget last fight Luke Demopolis was like a

1273
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 3: four to one underdog and came out there and gotta

1274
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: got a submission win. So she makes the craziness. I'm

1275
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: here for it. Are you here for Ricky Tertios from

1276
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: was he a Tough Tough Fame?

1277
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: I believe so, No I don't have a strong feeling

1278
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: one way or the other about Tertio's versus not Tivy

1279
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: DoD Nativity Nativty. Do you guys have a Nativity scene

1280
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: in your house on Christmas?

1281
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, Yeah, there's like a Christmas village that my

1282
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: wife and son put out on like a table in

1283
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: the hallway, and there is a Nativity scene in there, Luke.

1284
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: Because as a person living with Hispanic people, we have

1285
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: several of them in this house, and.

1286
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: I think that's great that you are regularly actively in

1287
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: your house celebrating the birth of my savior, Luke. And

1288
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: that's what this holiday used to be about.

1289
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: Okay, show we don't we don't celebrate my birth on Christmas?

1290
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know. No, you know, enjoy, enjoy

1291
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: whatever holiday you want or any terms. I'm not here

1292
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: to bust your balls, but yeah, Nativity scenes are pretty

1293
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: cool to Luke. I'm into that stuff. I into anything

1294
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: else on here, Luke. I know you're you were telling

1295
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: me offline that you're a big Fernie Garcia fan against

1296
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: the rest.

1297
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: Of the card is fine, but unremarkable.

1298
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 3: Not even Rodolfo Vieira against Cody Brunda. You don't like that.

1299
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: Hudolfo Vieira. Here's the thing, dude, Udolfo Vieira has been Uh.

1300
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: His UFC run did not go as I had expected

1301
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: it too, because here's what I had, what I had

1302
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: picked up on from his grappling. Again, one of the

1303
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: best grapplers in all of them in a right, and

1304
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: he had good takedowns in jiu jitsu. He had very

1305
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: good takedowns, but I guess going back to it, they

1306
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: were a little bit more gee based than I remembered

1307
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: them to be. He always had pretty good judo for

1308
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: a jiu jitsu guy, but doesn't have like you haven't

1309
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: seen any evidence of that in the octagon at all.

1310
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: And in fact, like his like here's what we talk

1311
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: about all the time. People take it for granted, Like

1312
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: Mackenzie Dern has a lopsided game, but when she gets hit,

1313
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: she doesn't lose composure. Vieira loses composure. He doesn't quite

1314
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: have the the sort of centered nature and you know,

1315
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: like that kind of that kind of bearing that you

1316
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: need under fire. He hasn't shown. I mean, he's shown

1317
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: to be tough, don't get me wrong. He's not like

1318
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: some kind of guy who's just sort of getting by

1319
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: despite being tough. No, he's tough, but he loses composure,

1320
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: which means he loses his best ability to get his

1321
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: game to the next stage. And so, you know, I

1322
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: just don't really know what the upside is. He looks

1323
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: fucking great coming off the scale, but that's you know, No,

1324
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm not super thrilled.

1325
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's he's Yeah this, I mean, are we

1326
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: are we nearing the end here?

1327
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: That's a tough question. I don't have high hopes, I'll

1328
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: put it that way. Yeah.

1329
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: People don't like to answering or asking tough questions these days.

1330
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: Luke.

1331
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: Luckily you have me in your life.

1332
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: Thank god you hear me. See Yeah, oh hey, dude.

1333
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 3: Did you see I know you don't like when I

1334
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 3: constantly interrupt the show, but did you see Raffe on

1335
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: stats of Belatoor MMA Fame wearing our fantastic MK bomber

1336
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 3: jacket in the gym And then Adrian Janaz was like, yo, man,

1337
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: like what up? And what was that great line they dropped?

1338
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: He said, Yo, that bitch clean.

1339
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, if if URJ doesn't come out with an MK

1340
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: that Bitch Clean shirt like you know, or put that

1341
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: on the back of the mister plowjacket. I mean it

1342
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: is bomber jacket, sizin right now. So I know Adrian Janez,

1343
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 3: who has great boxing, just great boxing. I know he's

1344
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: outed you on social media and said, look, I'm like

1345
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: a you know MK he.

1346
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: At tagged you too, motherfucker.

1347
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: He didn't ask, He's like, I'm like an MKP one here,

1348
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: what the fuck, dude? And our collective answer was you

1349
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: only get that if you go on the couch, right.

1350
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: That's like a parting gift that our j gives our

1351
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: fine people. So hey, come to the couch, bro, you

1352
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: can get lost in that cushion. There's there's there might

1353
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: be dead women in there. I mean we'll find it together, okay,

1354
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: because down there it's our time, our time, right, come,

1355
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: come make it happen. We'll outfit you in plenty things.

1356
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: All right down here, we all float BC that people

1357
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: joke about it, like, dude, that bomber jacket is legit,

1358
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: like it's great. My wife fucking loves it, like it's

1359
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: a legit, great jacket.

1360
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 3: So I think that's probably are seriously our best product,

1361
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: top to bottom. So I will say this about the

1362
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: drug rugs. I know it's got a comedic effect. Some

1363
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: of you would never go near it. It's not only

1364
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: legit in terms of quality. It's warm, like you don't

1365
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: actually need a winter jacket when you put that thing on.

1366
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: So reconsider your holiday options and send your email to

1367
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: RJ and you'll get great discounts for Black Friday. Thank

1368
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: you very much, Luke. Black Fridays sucks. It's weird. People

1369
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 3: go out and fight each other in stores and miss

1370
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: holidays to like wait in line outside.

1371
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: Can you imagine fistfighting someone in a Walmart over an

1372
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: air fryer. I mean, you should just leave the country forever,

1373
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: like you're the worst person in America.

1374
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, if that's what you're into, Hey,

1375
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: why don't you give us your email address and we'll

1376
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 3: give you deals? All right, that's how it works, Luke,

1377
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: take back the show, all right there.

1378
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: You I dated a girl who was she was wealthy,

1379
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: and she still got in line for Black Black Friday

1380
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: deals because she just liked the experience of wa This

1381
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: is in high school and she just loved the experience

1382
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: of just standing in lines. I used to be like,

1383
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: I think I have to fucking dump you you're a

1384
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: fucking idiot, Like, what are you talking about? This is well, she's.

1385
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: Gonna unfortunately, Luke, she's probably as a cruel joke that

1386
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 3: life served her. She's probably been standing in a lot

1387
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: of lines since then. You know what I mean, the unemployment,

1388
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: the uh, the clinic for you know, STD testing, Luke, you.

1389
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 9: Know what I mean?

1390
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: They if I'm going to if I'm miss how you know,

1391
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: if I'm being.

1392
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: She makes money on Wall Street? Now I found out.

1393
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: So so she jokes on us.

1394
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: Is she a swinging corporate raider?

1395
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, something like that, something like that. All right,

1396
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: b C. Now I'm just gonna be candid with the audience.

1397
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pretend to know things I don't know.

1398
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: But here is what also, I don't quite understand the strategy.

1399
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: So one has a card Friday night on Amazon Prime

1400
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: one on Prime Video for I mean, just the worst

1401
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 2: naming convention you could ever imagine. They keep going back

1402
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: to it, right, just the fucking worst. Now here's what.

1403
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: It's a good TV deal. It's it's a good TV deal.

1404
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: It just doesn't have to be like the title of

1405
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: your program.

1406
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: Right right, right, right, right now, they actually have another

1407
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: card that same day. They're doing that. They've been doing

1408
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: this for a while. They have one championship one sixty

1409
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: three or I guess maybe the day before. I'm not

1410
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: sure how it counts in Singapore. Whatever it is, Yeah,

1411
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: the day after maybe, But they're putting these two events

1412
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: back to back. The one that's not going to air

1413
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: on Amazon we're going to skip in large part because

1414
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: the main event is a kickboxing bout. The co main

1415
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: event is a kickboxing bout. Shinya Alki is in it,

1416
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: but you know he's long in the tooth. I will say,

1417
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: you should Okami is back after three years forty one

1418
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: years of age. You should Okami is back on that

1419
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: card on the nineteenth for one. But BC speaking about

1420
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 2: one on Prime Video four. Here's essentially what they're doing.

1421
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: I may not make any sense because of weight classes

1422
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: and everything. They have not one but two champ champ fights.

1423
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: So here's how it's gonna work. They're gonna have lightweight

1424
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: champion Christian Lee is gonna take on one welterweight champion

1425
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: Keyamrion Abasov, right, and then one flyweight Mui Tai world

1426
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: champion Rod Teng, who of course fought Demetrius Johnson is

1427
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: gonna defend his belt against strawweight muy Thai world champion

1428
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: for one, Joseph Lasiri. So you've got back to back,

1429
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: one person moving up to the next weight class, Champ

1430
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: Champ fights BC. Here's what I want to say about this.

1431
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: I've said I know a fair amount about Christian Lee.

1432
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: He looks pretty good. I don't know exact I mean,

1433
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: he beat Timothy NaSTA Yuki and who thought was the

1434
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: guy that fucked up Atty Alvarez, and he's being some

1435
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: other good guys.

1436
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: It's only twenty four, dude, only twenty four.

1437
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: He's a very good fighter, and he's got some losses

1438
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: on his record, but he you know, I don't think

1439
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: that they speak to his ultimate upside at all. Here's

1440
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: just the thing for MEBCEE, when you look at these

1441
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: names also on this card, the one on Prime Video,

1442
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: the guy who he may have ended the career of

1443
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: Stage North Good Cosmo Ala Chandre, who fought in Belator previously.

1444
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: He is back for the first time since that fight.

1445
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: He's on this card three years later, taking on one

1446
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: set of ants. Bibiano for Fernandez is back on this card.

1447
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of card.

1448
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: Look, I'm here for Rocket.

1449
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: And Daniel Danielle Kelly, who is a great grappler of

1450
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: the United States, is on this card grappling super fight.

1451
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: Hold up, but let me just say this reason real quick. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

1452
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: but let me just make a broader point about this

1453
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: card more generally. I've been saying this, and I think

1454
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: that it's this is true. Look, they've got they've got

1455
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: an MMA fight, and they've got a Champ Champ Mwily

1456
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: tie fight, and they've got a grappling fight outside of

1457
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: the UFC. It is just incontestably true that one's got

1458
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: the most unique product for MMA fans or combat sports fans.

1459
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: That much is just undeniable. However, b C, when I

1460
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: read you these names Keyamrion, Abasov rod teng, of course

1461
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: hardcore fans are gonna know that Cosmola Chandre, you know

1462
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: all these names that went over before. These are not

1463
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: household American names. These are not household North American names.

1464
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: These are not not a single one of these names

1465
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: is known to casual fans. And so do you agree

1466
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: with me that while they have the most unique product,

1467
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: their major hurdle is they're trying to get American fans

1468
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: to like certain sports and names that they just have

1469
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: zero relationship to.

1470
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 3: Yes, but here's you're right, you're right, and when it

1471
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: doesn't help that the other two key free agent pickups

1472
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: at the time of Demitrius Johnson, Eddie Alvarez and Sage Northcutt,

1473
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: you know, didn't ultimately pan out. Well, they did get

1474
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: a handful of fights out of Eddie and one of

1475
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: those was in primetime, you know, when they had that

1476
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: Turner deal, But you know it did they you know,

1477
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: both guys aren't active or even with the organization, it

1478
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 3: seems at the moment, So they never quite replaced that

1479
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 3: in the idea of let's throw catnip out to the

1480
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: mainstream American fan and get people that they know. Although

1481
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 3: they did bring in John Lineker, which is a good

1482
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: pickup in that regard. I do think that, you know,

1483
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: like anything else, the COVID in the in the pandemic hurt,

1484
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 3: what was their master plan to launch that inevitable US debut,

1485
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: which I know they're still forming now, but I think

1486
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 3: you do have to ask yourself this, where has there

1487
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 3: consistently been in this Amazon Prime run, like more reason

1488
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: than not to tune in for each card, well maybe

1489
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: not each one, depending on your level of hardcore knowledge

1490
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 3: of some of these names. But it's like, like that

1491
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: shouldn't always be your calling card though, to lean on

1492
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: the past. Now, you know, a strike force, a Belat

1493
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: or anybody who's you know, PFL. They do that at times,

1494
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: and I think you have to do that strategically at

1495
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: times to give people a reason to try you out.

1496
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 3: But after they try you out, you've got to show

1497
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 3: them how special you actually are. So this has been

1498
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: actually pretty aggressive matchmaking of late from one creating all

1499
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 3: of these Champchamp opportunities. We just saw Angela Lee Christian's

1500
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 3: sister and a trilogy bout of basically Champ Champ fights.

1501
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 3: What does that do?

1502
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: Though?

1503
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: When you match that aggressively, it kind of forces that

1504
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: American audience who maybe tuning in because they heard some

1505
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: news or they watched the DJ fight, and right away

1506
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 3: they're like trying to make stars with the best assets

1507
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 3: they have right in front of you and serving it up.

1508
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: It's aggressive, but that may be the best course of

1509
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: keeping you there and wanting you to come back. So

1510
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 3: the next card, yeah, you know that aging name but

1511
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: you also know these other guys. I mean, look, I'll

1512
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: say this about them, you know the same thing I

1513
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: said about PFL before. Their damn intelligent cage just won

1514
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 3: my ass over. I mean, it's so fucking smart, it's ridiculous.

1515
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 3: But Luke, if you're all these guys, I want to

1516
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: dismiss you because I'm like, man, I don't have time

1517
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 3: in my diet for more MMA right, I'm already watching

1518
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 3: everything UFC Belator, you know everybody else has given me.

1519
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: But then you taste test it, and you know, like

1520
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: a lot of those other promotions that are competing for time,

1521
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 3: you know, I like it. I like the rebrand that

1522
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: PFL has gone through in recent years. I really like

1523
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: what I've seen out of one so far, the competitiveness,

1524
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: the hunger, the way the presentation is is. You know,

1525
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: it's got some busheto vibes. It's got a little bit

1526
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 3: of that Asian theatrical flair, but it's hey, come tune in.

1527
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 3: We're not gonna fill the time with video packages. We're

1528
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 3: just gonna give you awesome action. In that regard, Luke,

1529
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: let's give them a chance to win us over by

1530
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 3: putting this The Young Stars they do have in crazy opportunities.

1531
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 3: I mean, look like DJ versus rod Tang. What's smart?

1532
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1533
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: It's fun, may kind of okay, smart in what sense?

1534
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: Uh, It's it's an attraction. It's a way to introduce

1535
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: people to rod Ting that weren't that didn't know of

1536
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: his wonder.

1537
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: And it was also just sort of a safe fight

1538
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: As a fight, it was stupid. As a marketing gimmick,

1539
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: it was very useful, right, that's the best way, because

1540
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: Pride did this shit a long time ago, and the

1541
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: results are always the fucking same or usually always the

1542
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: fucking same. But as a marketing tool, I think it

1543
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: was quite successful. Who from this card? You mentioned Danielle Kelly,

1544
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: who's in a super fight or grappling match, But who

1545
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 2: else when this card stands out to you that you

1546
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: really care about Bibiana Fernandez' back.

1547
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: Okay, main event, you want to see if Christian Lee

1548
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: here can become a two division champion. He's twenty four.

1549
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 3: His sister is also a star in the Rise. They've

1550
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 3: got another younger sister. This is sort of that young

1551
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: family from the US that is sort of like perfect

1552
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: to pair with a Demetrius Johnson when you're trying to

1553
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 3: make this US invasion. So I want to see him

1554
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: go up there against Abisov and see if you find

1555
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: out how good he really is, because I haven't watched

1556
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 3: a ton of him. Rod Ting's automatic. You know the

1557
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: names you mentioned, I kind of know them, remember them.

1558
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: But look, I had a lot of MK users d

1559
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: M me specifically and say, bro start following Danielle Kelly

1560
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 3: on Instagram. And I think I know the reason why

1561
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 3: they did. But what I ultimately found out was she's

1562
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 3: seems to be an up and comer in the submission

1563
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 3: grappling game, has intentions of taking that over to MMA,

1564
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: and is you know, from Philadelphia and and has a

1565
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,440
Speaker 3: big following already. I'm just becoming.

1566
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: Aware BC, I've got some breaking news.

1567
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, Luke, if you thought

1568
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: she was a prospect to watch in that regard. Do

1569
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: we just have you know, grimey fans that that you.

1570
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 2: Have grimey fans, You have grimey fans, We have grimy fans.

1571
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: Very quickly breaking news, it's official. We knew this was

1572
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: kind of coming, but now it's official. Uh okay, yeah,

1573
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 2: here Rodriguez is going to fight Josh Emmett for the

1574
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: interim featherweight title in Perth UFC two eighty four. It's

1575
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: official official.

1576
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had, They had kind of made it official

1577
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 3: official the other day. But now it's officially officially official.

1578
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: And they didn't make it official before.

1579
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah they did. Some people said, we kind of missed

1580
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 3: it and they and they the interim there and our life.

1581
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: We should have said it on Monday it was.

1582
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: It was already well fuck me, fuck me there, you

1583
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: know well, I mean I love that Gone by a thread.

1584
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: I love that freaking final. Okay, do you want me

1585
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: to talk about that or are you gonna answer no?

1586
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 3: Daniel Kelly question.

1587
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: The Daniel Kelly question. She's an interesting black belt. She

1588
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: has not won anything to date in terms of like,

1589
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't think at the black belt level she's won

1590
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: a world championship. She certainly she would. She did well

1591
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 2: I think at the eighty CC trials, but I don't

1592
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: think she has got anything beyond that. In fact, she

1593
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: had a grappling match with Flow against Tammy Mussumechi that's

1594
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: the brother of the other Mussumechi, who's in Mikey mass

1595
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: Mikey who who who? Who is a nerd that loves pizza.

1596
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 3: So it was our Mikey r Miikey too, you know

1597
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 3: what I mean? You know th HC infused pizza probably, but.

1598
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: You know, so she is a very good black belt

1599
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: out of the Philadelphia area. I believe she represents silver

1600
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: Fox BJJ. So she she has wins over Carla as

1601
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 2: Sparzan grappling from like you know, pro grappling of and whatnot,

1602
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: but hasn't quite you know, she's not like Bouchetsha. She's

1603
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: not like you know, I don't know, pick someone like

1604
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: you get the idea. She's she's she's done some good things,

1605
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: but doesn't have that a level win just yet. But

1606
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: she's exciting. She goes for it should be a fun

1607
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: contest against Maria Mulchanova.

1608
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 3: But look, you would agree that everybody needs gimmicks to

1609
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: get the audience to try them. Would you say that

1610
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 3: these are better gimmicks than like going the extreme old

1611
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: guy versus old guy rue or going these.

1612
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, like, I don't want people to misinterpret

1613
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It sounds like what I'm saying is oh, nice, try,

1614
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: but this is no good. That's not my point. If

1615
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 2: you watch one, and you can look at my tweets.

1616
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: After the last three events of these, I've been like, damn,

1617
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: these came out good. These were good. These were really good.

1618
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: I have zero doubt that this event on Friday will

1619
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 2: be really good. For one. But there's this question of

1620
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: like a, how much is Amazon paying them to you know,

1621
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: Amazon's trying to get this sort of hub for sports,

1622
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: but like, I don't know how well that's going beyond

1623
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: Thursday night football. And the other part too, is again

1624
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: it's like this totally divorced product from the American audience

1625
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: trying to now get the Americans to like it. I'm

1626
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: not saying that that's not a worthy pursuit. I would

1627
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: love nothing more. I would love nothing more for this

1628
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: to be successful. And I love what they do with

1629
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: the muay Thai and the grappling and how it changes

1630
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: everything and it gives you access to more high level

1631
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: athletes then you know, just trying to fight for the

1632
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: exact same pool of MMA fighters alone. Dude, it's great.

1633
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: The one product is great. As much shit as I

1634
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: give Tatri Sigo Tong. The product is great. I just

1635
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: don't know how sellable it is to the average person.

1636
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: Who cares about MMA on even a moderate level. This

1637
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: is a tough sell for them. It is my only problem.

1638
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's fair, that's fair. But I guess if

1639
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: you hope that they tune in just in time to

1640
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: see Rod Tank come out like the Ultimate Warrior and

1641
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: just like just start starching people.

1642
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: Luke, I've seen that jiff where he does that.

1643
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have Rod Tang fight every other fight each card.

1644
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: How about that? Just keep serving them up, you know

1645
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 3: the equivalent of uber drivers, and yeah.

1646
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: Let them have it all right. See, let's talk about

1647
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: topic number four here before we get to over under,

1648
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: which is the PFL has revealed their pay per view

1649
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: price for their upcoming pay per view on the twenty

1650
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: fifth of November. It's gonna be forty nine ninety nine

1651
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: on ESPN Plus. And let me tell you what you're

1652
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: getting with that if you buy it. Main cards gonna

1653
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: feature seven total fights, including six championship bouts that will

1654
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: crown winners. Uh so you're gonna get Kayla Harrison versus

1655
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: Larissa Pacheco two. Actually they've already fought before three. Luke.

1656
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: It's a trilogy fight.

1657
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: This is the third one. Jesus Okay, here we go.

1658
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 2: Even better. Brendan Lockdin taking on Bubba Jenkins for the

1659
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: featherweight Championship's actually a great fight. I love that one.

1660
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: Uh Anton Delia or Anton Delia, I'm gonna have pronounce it.

1661
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: Taken it on Minn Tello's Scheffle for the heavyweight.

1662
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 3: I'll like that fight.

1663
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: Yep. Stevie Ray versus Olivier Auben Mercier for lightweight. That's great.

1664
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: Uh Delano Taylor for taking on side of BUC.

1665
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: For them this way, it's gonna be good. The Welcher

1666
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 3: way one sneaky.

1667
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 4: I like that one.

1668
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: None of these are bad fights, although this one is

1669
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: less interesting to me. O mariok Madeoff taken on Rob

1670
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: Wilkinson for the light heavyweight Championship. You might remember both

1671
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: those guys from middleweight runs in the UFC, and then

1672
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: Aspin Lad taken on Julia. But Marlon Moriis is on

1673
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: this card, on the preliminary card which will be free

1674
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: taking on Shaman Maris, Jeremy Stevens versus Natan Schultz mccamed

1675
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: Megamed Karamov taken on Gleason t Bao and then by

1676
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: the way, how do you pronounce this guy's name. Is

1677
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 2: it taken on Tom Grasser?

1678
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: B C.

1679
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 2: Here's my question too. Yeah, see, here's my question to you.

1680
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: These are all fine fights forced to nitpick. Of course,

1681
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: like any fight, you could find something. There's nothing wrong

1682
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: with them. But my question is number one, how well

1683
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: will this do on pay per view? And b are

1684
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: you worried about the few future of the organization that

1685
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 2: they're moving this quickly into pay per view not with

1686
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: a weak quality card. But understand something, what's the job

1687
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: of the promoter. The job of the promoter is to

1688
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 2: put on fights that people want to pay money to see.

1689
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: I don't know that people want to pay money to

1690
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: see that.

1691
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like part of me is like, well, I

1692
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 3: don't hate not only the ambition of putting your championship

1693
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: on pay per view, but trying to set this precedent

1694
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 3: that we're only going to get better in the future

1695
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: in terms of our names. And we give you good

1696
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 3: action already and good lord is our cage just a vot? Right?

1697
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: But you know it's like the selling model. It's old

1698
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: pro wrestling. It should be get your first round and

1699
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 3: second round, third round matchups for free, but then come

1700
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 3: back and pay for the you know, for the for

1701
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: the championship, the main event there. It's like, in theory,

1702
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 3: I don't hate that, but paired with what we already know,

1703
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 3: which is that in twenty twenty three they plan to

1704
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: aggressively go into the pay per view space where at

1705
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 3: least two fights you know under the guy, can we

1706
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: keep Kayla Harrison happy? Can we keep her getting matchups

1707
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 3: that matter? And can we give her the things that

1708
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 3: she would have gotten naturally if if they had allowed

1709
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 3: her to sign with the UFC, which was a lesser deal,

1710
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 3: you know, apparently than once she ended up signing with PFL,

1711
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: but they had matching rights under that. Guys, is this

1712
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 3: specific pay per view compelling or star studied enough to

1713
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: really necessitate No, it's not. Again, if you're trying to

1714
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 3: just start that new precedent where the championship will always be,

1715
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 3: go for it. But forty nine ninety nine No, you know,

1716
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: I like these fights a lot, and I think if

1717
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: you've been watching, even if begrudgingly, you gotta come across

1718
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 3: around to it. Pfl's fun, it's good matchmaking, it's competitive,

1719
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 3: it's all you know, it's all. It's all good. But

1720
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: is it good enough for you to pay for it.

1721
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 3: The proof will be in the in the put and

1722
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 3: in that regard, no question about it. And I just

1723
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to see them jump into

1724
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: pay per view when they're not fully ready, or don't

1725
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: have a plan of attack, or don't have access to

1726
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: the right opponents, particularly for Kayla. So you know, can

1727
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: you get a cyborg in here? Can he justify it?

1728
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 3: You know, let's see what happens. But I'm not holding

1729
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: my breath here on this. I want to see these fights.

1730
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 3: I will see these fights, you know, if I have

1731
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: to pay for them legally and expensive, Luke, that's the

1732
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 3: avenue I will take.

1733
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: But have you ever heard of have you ever heard

1734
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 2: of Ben Thompson who has a website called Stratechori I

1735
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: believe it's what it's called. No. So, this is this

1736
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: dude who worked for all of these major companies and

1737
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 2: now lives in Taiwan and started this like independent newsletter

1738
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: where he would break down how the business of tech

1739
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: worked and you could do it with diagrams and all

1740
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 2: this stuff. It was so good that now he has

1741
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: audience with all of the tech giants. The newsletter blew up.

1742
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: He makes a ton of money because he really understands

1743
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: the business. And one thing he said it's true not

1744
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: just for tech but for everyone, was that if you've

1745
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: given away your product for free before, it's a real

1746
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: bad idea to then put a paywall behind it after. Right,

1747
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: the best way to put a paywall up is from

1748
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: the word go. If if that makes sense to have

1749
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: a paywall, don't introduce it later. Introduce it right up front,

1750
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: because once you've given away something for free, they don't

1751
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: want to pay for it than after the fact. We've

1752
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: had multiples of these kinds of cards, all free or

1753
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 2: at least you know, with the ESPN Plus or with

1754
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: their cable subscription essentially already, and now they're putting it

1755
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: behind a pay per view. I mean, let me just

1756
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: be very clear about this. I would love to be

1757
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: very wrong, because again everyone's like, oh, we're bagging on

1758
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: these promotions. We're not, dude. Mma is better, my job

1759
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: is easier, my job is more lucrative. Frankly, when all

1760
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: of the PFLs and everyone else outside of the UFC

1761
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: can have more success, that's just generally going to be true.

1762
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: But this pay per view is going to fucking tank.

1763
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean it's going to tank hard, right, I don't

1764
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: know who the fuck is going to pay fifty bucks

1765
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: for fights that they used to get for free for

1766
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: the entirety of the pfl's experience up to this point.

1767
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: And you don't have anyone on there that is even

1768
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: close to I would call a big star in MMA

1769
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: or a proven pay per view talent. Would you give

1770
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: them They're already going to pay per view, because there's

1771
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: the thing. To get people to get paid money what

1772
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: they want, you got to go to pay per view.

1773
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 2: That's really where all the money is. But they don't

1774
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: have any of the ingredients that make pay per view successful.

1775
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 2: I have concerns about them.

1776
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: I feel like you would give that same exact speech

1777
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 3: to any strawweights out there that were considering only fans, right, Luke.

1778
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: No, if they went to OnlyFans right up front, and

1779
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: like if they were just putting up everything for free,

1780
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: Like if you could just put up hardcore pornography on Instagram,

1781
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend that put that hardcore pornography behind a paywall.

1782
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm please, all right, So back to legitimacy of this.

1783
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: So here's what they're lacking. They're lacking a secondary attraction

1784
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 3: or just star power fight that would justify you if

1785
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: you were on the fence, if you were like, hey,

1786
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 3: I have watched the season. I do want to see

1787
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: if Pachaco has the punching power to finally give Kayla

1788
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: issues after you know, taking her to a decision twice

1789
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: before that. But it doesn't have the Let me insert

1790
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 3: the creation I created a while ago, Eddie Alvarez versus

1791
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: Anthony pettis luke if they had put that out as

1792
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: the like, you know, Comaine event attraction. Come see two

1793
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 3: Legends brawl. I think you got a fighting chance. I

1794
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 3: love Aspin Lad versus Julia, but is that even still happening?

1795
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 3: I thought there were issues in an Aspen Lad fight

1796
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 3: or do they get a new opponent or am I

1797
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 3: just behind the times?

1798
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: No? I don't know how the times. The issue was

1799
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: that Shane Burgos fell off the cart as.

1800
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 3: I that's right, Shaman Morice? Yeah? So I mean, okay,

1801
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 3: so you can argue and say, look, they tried, right,

1802
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: they tried to put Shane Burgos and Marlon Morice together.

1803
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 3: But that's not Eddie Alvarez versus Anthony pettis not that

1804
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: I think a ton of people are clamoring for Eddie

1805
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 3: Alvaz versus Anthon Pettis. But I think you get my point.

1806
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: It doesn't have any of that here, Luke. So it's

1807
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 3: got depth to it. Yeah, but it's depth you're used

1808
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: to catching for free if you got nothing else going on.

1809
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 3: So this is a tough, a tough first step potentially

1810
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 3: in that direction. If that direction is only going to

1811
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: lead to more, you know, in their twenty twenty three

1812
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 3: pay per view division, Luke, is that ever going to

1813
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 3: get off the ground. I mean, what does twenty twenty

1814
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: three look like for Kayla and the PF.

1815
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, I really don't. Yeah, I feel bad

1816
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: that MMA contracts are what they are. Where as long

1817
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: as someone matches and they've got matching rights for like

1818
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: a fucking year, and you know, if someone gives them

1819
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 2: a good offer but the other promotion you can match,

1820
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: then they have to get they have to go back again.

1821
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 2: Everyone thinks that like, oh, she chose PFL. No, PFL

1822
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 2: chose her. Quite the opposite. Actually, that someone made an

1823
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,879
Speaker 2: offer and by contract she had to go back or retire.

1824
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: She couldn't just be like, oh, I'm gonna disregardless They

1825
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: had matching rights. That's listen to that word, right, they

1826
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: had a right to match and they did, and so

1827
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: as a consequence, she has to fight for them. Uh,

1828
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't serve her long term interests, it seems. I mean,

1829
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 2: you know, listen, if you just just do it like yourself,

1830
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: a very basic test, right, pick out the last UFC card,

1831
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: pick the top three fights and look at the Google

1832
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 2: trends around those names and see how high they get. Right,

1833
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: then you can compare them on the same graph with

1834
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 2: any of the names here. Pick the top three names,

1835
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: whatever you think they are on this card, and match

1836
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: them up, and you're gonna see a vast, vast and

1837
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,799
Speaker 2: ocean of difference between the level of searching and engagement

1838
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: around those terms versus the one on the PFL. They don't,

1839
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: they do not have the ingredients to make pay per

1840
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,440
Speaker 2: view work. This thing is gonna tank. It's gonna tank spectacularly,

1841
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,959
Speaker 2: and that sucks because it's not a function of quality.

1842
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: It's not a function of quality. It's a function of

1843
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: star power. And the star power is just there's none.

1844
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: There's none on that card. Unfortunately, So we shall see BC.

1845
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: We are getting closer to the end of the month,

1846
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 2: and you know what that means. Almost time to select

1847
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: the first ever money Lion Hammer of the Month for

1848
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,080
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1849
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: weeks back, we decide that we want to start spotlighting

1850
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: undercard fighters, not prelim necessarily who aren't getting the recognition

1851
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 2: they deserve. Our new sponsor, Money Lion agreed, so we

1852
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 2: came up with a Hammer of the Month, which invites

1853
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: you donks the viewers to nominate which undercard fighters blew

1854
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 2: your mind and deserve to be rewarded for it. Very

1855
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:04,240
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1856
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 2: learn more on how to enter. You can use the

1857
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: QR code on the screen there as well.

1858
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a few that's blown

1859
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 3: our mind so far. I appreciate people using those hashtags

1860
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: we mentioned Hammer of the Month, Holy Hammer, even the

1861
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: people that have used Holly Hammer. I'm down for that too.

1862
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, Luke, whether it was Aaron, Blanchefield, Pollyanna, Vianna,

1863
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 3: there's been a few. It's gonna be interesting to see

1864
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: who comes out in the end. And I like money Lion,

1865
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,919
Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe reaching out and giving a showcase

1866
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: a spotlight on somebody who's yet to fully break through

1867
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 3: but seems to be knocking on that door. If we

1868
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 3: can get our hammer in their hands, that's you know,

1869
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: as long as it's consenting, that is, that's a boon

1870
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: for everyone.

1871
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 4: Luke.

1872
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: Well, well, well, well noted. Thank you.

1873
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I think legally we were supposed to

1874
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: say that, but yes, yes they can go to moneyline

1875
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 3: dot com slash Morning Combat to learn more to enter today.

1876
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: Thank you. All right.

1877
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: Okay, look let if awkward pauses be damned. Yeah, that's

1878
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 3: all right. You just gave up there, you were like,

1879
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 3: you know whatever, it's you, it's your turn. Okay. Look,

1880
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: sometimes we feel time while looking at the latest headlines

1881
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 3: in combat sports, and this is one of those times.

1882
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 3: But it's a good one. They call it over under. Yeah,

1883
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 3: so lt I got a handful of numbers and scenarios.

1884
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,919
Speaker 3: You tell me which one's the safer bet. Now. Speaking

1885
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 3: of Kayla Harrison, she recently talked to MMA News and

1886
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 3: they asked her to name her top five all time

1887
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: female MMA fires like the Mount Rushmore plus one of

1888
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 3: female MMA history. Her answers number five. She had a

1889
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: tie between Rose and Holly number four you wanna three

1890
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey, two Cyborg and number one the Lioness Amanda Newness.

1891
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 3: So four the number of recurring names that you would

1892
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: have on your same list in comparison to.

1893
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: Kayla read her list one more time.

1894
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 3: Number one Amanda than Cyborg, Ronda, Joanna, and number five

1895
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 3: was a Rose Holly Holme tie. So there's six. We're

1896
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 3: saying that over under you'd have at least four of

1897
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 3: those six.

1898
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: Definitely three, not definitely one.

1899
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 3: Really, Oh, you're saying you're not saying the number, you're

1900
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 3: saying the total. Okay, the total. Definitely three.

1901
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: When I put Rose top five better, yeah, probably I

1902
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 2: probably would, So I would have four.

1903
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: She's the best, Luke, She's the best, Okay, Rose, I

1904
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 3: just want you to know that. So you'd have four,

1905
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 3: So it'd be a push. It wouldn't be over or under.

1906
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 3: I mean, look, what's the biggest thing. What's the biggest

1907
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 3: name that everyone's screaming that Kayala missed here?

1908
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 2: I mean, you could go old school a little bit

1909
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 2: like any or.

1910
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 3: You could go Valentino right now, Luke, or you can

1911
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 3: do that right do Valentina.

1912
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 2: You could do if you wanted to, Magoomi Fuji. You

1913
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: could do.

1914
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: Nobody will though respect to Magoomi Fuji, no one's doing

1915
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 3: that anymore. We can be named one fight she had,

1916
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 3: it was another time and another place. It's going to

1917
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,440
Speaker 3: become like hoist gracieing this list, okay.

1918
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 2: Luke, I mean that's really not even remotely accurate.

1919
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 3: But hey, I like putting you on your heels regardless

1920
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: when is he got put on his heels after getting

1921
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 3: his heels kicked a bunch, Luke, that's what happened around five.

1922
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: It's you know, I'm never afraid late in a fight

1923
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 3: to try to win it against you.

1924
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, dude, Espousing ignorant opinions is not putting me on

1925
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: my heels just so, that's.

1926
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it may open you up for a big

1927
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: mistake that I can capitalize on.

1928
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 2: That might be true. That might be true, you know.

1929
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, let me ask you this, because I don't

1930
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: I have never like there's also like old school marluse Kunan.

1931
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put her top five, but you know, I

1932
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: think there's honorable mention maybe somewhere in there. What about

1933
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: the idea? No, I guess you wouldn't put mi Chitate

1934
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 2: on there either, I'm just trying to think about all

1935
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: that that storied class of bantam weights that were around

1936
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: when Rondo was around. Yeah, Valentino would be the one

1937
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: big omission on that list that I think you would

1938
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: have to include for sure.

1939
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 3: So you then you'd have to bounce Holly, right.

1940
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd bounce holl It for sure, you'd bounce Holler. Yeah, OK,

1941
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: WoT I would bounce her just on account of rows

1942
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 2: like that's Roses spot.

1943
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 3: You know, look, I believe it's this weekend? Am I

1944
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: wrong on this? Deszoone was going to have their new

1945
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 3: what do they call it, the Wildcard Division, the ex division?

1946
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 3: I forgot what they call it, but it's basically crossover

1947
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: fights and it will be this weekend. But vitur BELFOURT

1948
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 3: won't be involved. Luke. He was forced to pull out

1949
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 3: of his boxing matchup against a seam rockmun Junior. But

1950
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 3: the replacement is somebody you know all too well, star

1951
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 3: of the grid Iron, former mixed martial artist Greg Hardy

1952
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 3: gonna take on Hassim Rockman Junior. Hardy did recently win

1953
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 3: his boxing debut by big knockout. We know Hassim Rockman

1954
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 3: Junior's got a somewhat questionable. Run to twelve and one.

1955
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 3: The over under I'm asking you here is one point

1956
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 3: five the number of rounds. Hassim Rockman Junior versus Greg

1957
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 3: Hardy will.

1958
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: Go wow, you put it at one and a half.

1959
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 4: God, this is no.

1960
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 3: This is a mike This is a Mikey mor milel production.

1961
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 3: This is well put together. Here one and a half

1962
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 3: is his the.

1963
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 2: Put the put the graphic back up. I just want

1964
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 2: to look at this, dude. You're talking about the two

1965
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: biggest flakes in combat sports, are you not.

1966
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I meant, but this is a good line

1967
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,919
Speaker 3: because Hardy can punch, he also may just get handled.

1968
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 3: Or this is really gross and it goes like three

1969
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 3: four rounds.

1970
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, right, what's it scheduled for? Do we know?

1971
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 3: No, I've I've been somewhat distant from this. I mean,

1972
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 3: I'll watch it, right, I'd subscribe to his own I'll

1973
01:30:59,479 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 3: watch it.

1974
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: But Jesus Christ.

1975
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: I mean it's gross. I mean, look, this is one

1976
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 3: of the this is the all I mean, this isn't

1977
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: just gas station hot dogs. This is like, like they

1978
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 3: say so once in a while, Mass Pike and you know,

1979
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 3: on the way to Boston they used to inject the

1980
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 3: hot dog with the hot cheese beforehand before they put

1981
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 3: it on the roller. Now, Luke, that's as grimy and

1982
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 3: bad for you as you can I mean with you vape,

1983
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 3: so you know, as you can get. But I still

1984
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 3: stood in line for that ship, Luke. I still took

1985
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 3: it down. I had to know what it was on

1986
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 3: the other side of that, what was on the inside

1987
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 3: of that. Even I don't know where I'm going. This

1988
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: fight is one of those. Look, I have to know

1989
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 3: what it looks like, you know, I just have to.

1990
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 3: It's one so four rounders.

1991
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: This fight is what you see when you go into

1992
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: the porta potty at the Renaissance Festival, you know what

1993
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 2: I mean.

1994
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 3: Just but somebody just shouldn't it.

1995
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: I mean, ship in blood and just all.

1996
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 3: All right, it was a birthing room Florida.

1997
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, mike he says, the fight is scheduled for

1998
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: four rounds. So it's only scheduled for four. I'll take

1999
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 2: the goddamn God damn. This is a tough one, dude.

2000
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: Mikey only puts tough questions in there.

2001
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna

2002
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: take the under I'm gonna take the under on this one.

2003
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 2: This is not this is a shit show in the

2004
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: to the end thing.

2005
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 3: But dude, you'll admit that that Hardy's gonna be dangerous

2006
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 3: for like sixty seconds, right, So does that force Rockman

2007
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: into like a shell or does he just go no,

2008
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 3: you can't box, I'm gonna come out, braun.

2009
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 2: Dude, I don't know what to make of fasim Rockman,

2010
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: who's trying to get a hold of this like new

2011
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 2: style of not stunt, new style, new way of promoting

2012
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 2: yourself outside of traditional opponents.

2013
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 3: But the part about that that's hard for him to

2014
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 3: be a badass while doing that is part of us

2015
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 3: getting interested. Is the idea that he's not as good

2016
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 3: as his name or record would indicate. So he's got

2017
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 3: to like dumb down his game to kind of be

2018
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 3: considered for these.

2019
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, Greg Hardy seems like the perfect opponent for

2020
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck they're gonna do. Yeah, I'll take the under.

2021
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 2: I'll take the under on this one. I think that

2022
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 2: this one is just designed to be a complete shit

2023
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 2: show for a very short amount of time and then

2024
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: that's it all.

2025
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 3: Right, all right, Well, Luke, I don't know the for

2026
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 3: our next one. I don't know the source on here,

2027
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 3: but Leon Edwards was interviewed and the subject of Jorge

2028
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 3: Mosvidal was brought up. Here's what Leon had to say.

2029
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 3: Let's say Mosvidal fights Gilbert Burns in December or in

2030
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 3: January and he gets a good win. I would fight

2031
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 3: him in April in the UK. I would love for

2032
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 3: him to beat Burns and then that would be a

2033
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 3: big fight. End quote. So this is the champion. Leon

2034
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 3: Edwards was gonna have to fight Uswan a second time

2035
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: already kind of calling his shot. He wants the money

2036
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 3: fight of Jorge. Yeah, you can't damn him for this.

2037
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 3: But related to this topic, Gilbert Burns put a tweet

2038
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 3: out that it might be exposing Jorge Mosvidal's intention. This

2039
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 3: is Gilbert saying, just let everybody know that the UFC

2040
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 3: offered me Game bread Fighter three times. First was November twelfth,

2041
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 3: he said he needed more time. The second was December tenth,

2042
01:33:58,120 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 3: he said he was going to Brazil to fight me,

2043
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 3: and now he just said no again. So I guess

2044
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 3: the B from the BMF doesn't stand for bad Wow.

2045
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 3: I think he's implying that it stands for bitch. Now

2046
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 3: this is one side of this argument who knows on

2047
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 3: the flip side. But in related to our over under

2048
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 3: Luke seven as in months, the number of months before

2049
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 3: we see Jorge mosmital return to the octagon. Last saw

2050
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 3: him losing to Colby Covington in a pay per view

2051
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 3: main event over under seven months.

2052
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 2: Woo, I'll take the over.

2053
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 3: Wow.

2054
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. I don't think he's in a giant rush

2055
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: to get back. I think he knows that his time

2056
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 2: in the sport is now quite limited and he's trying

2057
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 2: to find the right opponent. You would have thought Gilbert

2058
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 2: would have been that guy. But at the same time,

2059
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 2: here's the problem. Gilbert's got a big name coming off

2060
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 2: that hamzat win for sure, but Gilbert's tough as shit. Bro.

2061
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jorge doesn't gain much from a Gilbert fight because,

2062
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 3: in Jorgey's mind, he's in that like twilight period where

2063
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 3: he's a name, so you don't really have to earn

2064
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 3: big fights. You're just a name.

2065
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 2: Well, dude, it's just like okay, But like, here's this

2066
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 2: is the problem for Jorge. He needs someone with a

2067
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 2: name who also is like a competitive fight, and it's like, dude,

2068
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: Gilbert ain't that guy, you know what I mean? Gilbert's

2069
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: not a good name, but he's fin He already got

2070
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 2: way too tough to beat.

2071
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 3: Could you argue that Masvelov's already reaped the rewards of

2072
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 3: being an old name without winning a lot to justify it,

2073
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 3: Like he got the second title shot that he you know,

2074
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 3: you could argue from his performance in the first even

2075
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 3: on last minute notice, did it matter? Did we care?

2076
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't necessary? No, they got the Colby main events.

2077
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 3: So that's like, hey, you're a brand. Still, let's put

2078
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 3: two brands together to what to continue that treatment? You

2079
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 3: kind of have to win though in between, and the

2080
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 3: UFC typically makes you prove that you can win in between.

2081
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 3: So you know, he may not have a lot of

2082
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 3: leverage here in terms of turning these fights. Now I

2083
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 3: get why he wouldn't want Gilbert, So what do you

2084
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 3: want instead? Hamza? You know what I mean? No, no,

2085
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 3: or any of them other hammers on the way up, Like, no.

2086
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 2: Good luck, good luck, there's no great answer here at

2087
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 2: all for him?

2088
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 3: Or do you want to box Jake Paul or some

2089
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 3: shit out of here?

2090
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's a better fight. Honestly, serious question, serious question.

2091
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 2: If for whatever reason he was released from his contract

2092
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 2: today and the Tommy Fury thing went away, not would

2093
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 2: they make the fight better? Question? Does Jake Paul beat

2094
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: Jorge Maswital in boxing?

2095
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm I'm on, I don't want to say I fully

2096
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 3: bought into this because I want to. I want to

2097
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 3: keep open the idea that if he could get these

2098
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: big matchups Nate Connor, you know Jorge obviously the contracts

2099
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 3: that the lineup Nate is most likely now that it

2100
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 3: would be this great build up of trash talk and

2101
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 3: then it'd actually be a war in there. But no,

2102
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm coming around to the idea that Jake Paul is

2103
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: pretty darn good for this level and has anytime he's

2104
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: gonna have a size advantage over somebody. You know, we

2105
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 3: thought Silva would be him getting sunned or hitting his wall,

2106
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 3: but you know, it turned out to be the perfect

2107
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: storm in a lot of ways, and what he showed us.

2108
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 3: I think if he goes in there against these smaller

2109
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: MMA lightweights and walterweights at this point, he he should

2110
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 3: be able to keep him away with the jab right

2111
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 3: and potentially hurt them. I mean, look, you got to

2112
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 3: prove that these aren't you know, these are pros, but

2113
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 3: this isn't elite level boxing. But I'm coming around to

2114
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 3: where you already are, Luke, that we we may need

2115
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 3: Jake to go bigger. That's why, whether you think Tommy

2116
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 3: furyud be competitive or not, it is him going bigger

2117
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 3: quote unquote real boxer. Maybe John Fury will take his

2118
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 3: shirt off and attack somebody. I mean that would be

2119
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 3: fun in that regard. Did you see Jake tweeted out

2120
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: that he wants or does his own quote of him

2121
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 3: as saying he wants February in Manchester or London against

2122
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 3: Tommy Fury.

2123
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: I did see that. I did see that. I don't

2124
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,759
Speaker 2: you know. To me, it's like I actually do feel

2125
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 2: like maybe transitioning to boxing. What excuse me stop? Because

2126
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 2: we spent all fight week being like we picked a

2127
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: fight with MMA, but like he kind of picked it

2128
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 2: too well. And now people are like, well, what's the

2129
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 2: point if Anderson can't beat him with Nate? And obviously

2130
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 2: the Nate fight would be big and I so I

2131
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 2: don't mind him pivoting towards like regular boxers. And you

2132
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 2: know if this fights on show time.

2133
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 3: Well, let me frame it this way for you, because

2134
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 3: I'm going to cover it, but I'm gonna I'm gonna

2135
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 3: let me fish, let fish. I want you to, I

2136
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 3: want you to, Okay. I wanted you to stop for

2137
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 3: a reason. That's why I was like, it looked.

2138
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: In but I didn't want to stop for a reason.

2139
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: So that's right.

2140
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 3: But now I'm going to retee you up because this

2141
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: is part of our under over under segments. So I

2142
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 3: didn't want you to give away your answer before I

2143
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 3: could frame it properly. Okay, because I got to ahead

2144
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 3: of the game here. It's my fault. But Luke Jake

2145
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 3: Paul had tweeted out, Dear Frank Warren, I agree to

2146
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 3: fight Tommy in Manchester or London in February. I'll come

2147
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 3: to his country no more running. His baby is due,

2148
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 3: and you've said it's a no issue since John is adamant,

2149
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 3: we've agreed. I'm giving you seven days to prevent it,

2150
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 3: to present a side in contract, or I'm moving on.

2151
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 3: The over under that Mikey's serving up here is for

2152
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 3: Luke the number of months before we get Paul versus Fury.

2153
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I just got to say, like, I'm giving you

2154
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 2: a week or I'm moving on. Please stop. I mean,

2155
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 2: either make the fight or don't like this bullshit like

2156
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: you know you got you know what? Just okay, never

2157
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 2: mind four months, okay, so mid December, mid January, mid February,

2158
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 2: mid March, I'll take the under. Take the under on

2159
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: that I think that we well hold on fight actually

2160
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 2: takes place or fight is announced and booked.

2161
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 3: I would think it's I think he's asking takes place,

2162
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 3: but uh, I think we will see.

2163
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 2: I'll take the over. In that case, I'll take the

2164
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: under that they make it before then I'll take the over.

2165
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: It happened second quarter.

2166
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 3: Is there any conspiratorial part of your brain that says

2167
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 3: Vitor Belfort pulling out of a boxing match against the

2168
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 3: seam Rockman is because he's saving his brand in portfolio

2169
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 3: to be a Jake opponent, Because if that theory is true,

2170
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 3: that Jake reaching down to smaller guys is only going

2171
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 3: to lead to domination. Although let's give Nada as a

2172
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 3: chance or Jorge whoever gets the chance that Belford is

2173
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 3: the perfect bigger opponent right to still do this cross.

2174
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like he got removed from this fight and

2175
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 2: then I saw someone being like, you know, prayers up

2176
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: for him. So did he have like fucked up.

2177
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 3: Blood work or I don't you know, Yeah, I don't know.

2178
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 2: What the situation. He's not reliable in the sense of

2179
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 2: can you, you know, reasonably figure out if he's gonna

2180
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,919
Speaker 2: be able to make it fight to fight without commission issues,

2181
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 2: age or otherwise. He's a little bit of a wildcard

2182
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 2: in that sense.

2183
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope he's okay, obviously, Luke. Finally, I've got

2184
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: one more for you. Dana White, in the postfight presser

2185
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: on Saturday in New York said quote, John Jones will

2186
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 3: fight next year for sure. Yeah. We never had a

2187
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 3: steep a John Jones fight. John's gonna fight next year.

2188
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 3: That was the answer from Dana before that other unnamed

2189
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 3: reporter like when Adam do you see that, Luke? That

2190
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 3: one guy was like, what's next for heavy with which

2191
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 3: steep BA good fight? Like he was grilling Dana. He

2192
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 3: didn't have the right, he wasn't armed with the right, AMMO,

2193
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 3: to really pull it off. But he did have like,

2194
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 3: you know, guy in a pink suit level aggression. But

2195
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 3: here's the point here, Luke, regarding Dana, seems to be

2196
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 3: revealing that there was never negotiation or steep eight interim

2197
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,799
Speaker 3: title fight. So with that, in the knowledge of Dana's

2198
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 3: hope to booking Ghanu versus Jones for all the marbles

2199
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 3: next year, two and a half the amount of fights

2200
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 3: total that John Jones will actually have at heavyweight.

2201
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Take that under big time, take that out really any time? Yeah, yeah,

2202
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, is there a world where he has

2203
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: like three or four of them and that would in

2204
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: no way be controversial? Of course, I mean, of course, dude.

2205
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 2: For folks who may not realize this, of course, next

2206
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: year is twenty twenty three. Everyone realizes that. But here's

2207
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: the point I want to make. Twenty twenty three represents

2208
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 2: the ten year mark that John Jones has said he's

2209
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 2: gonna move to heavyweight ten motherfucking years. For a decade

2210
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 2: he's been saying he's gonna do this. I am skeptical, certainly,

2211
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 2: I have no crystal ball, not b C. But I

2212
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 2: am skeptical of the idea that he's got some long

2213
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 2: march planned for that weight class. I think he's got

2214
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 2: a couple of fights, maybe a few. Well, shall see

2215
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 2: that he's going to get in and then call it

2216
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 2: a day. I don't believe that this is in any way,

2217
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 2: the longevity approach of him, I think it's a little

2218
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 2: bit not quite like GSP, who did the one fight

2219
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 2: at middleweight and got the fuck out. You probably get

2220
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 2: two of them. I would be surprised if you saw four. Three.

2221
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: I guess I could probably envision four. No chance zero two.

2222
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 3: Right, I think three, because I think the money's on

2223
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 3: him still being pretty damn good. We don't know how good.

2224
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 3: He's been off a long ass time. There are a

2225
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 3: lot of questions. But if he I mean, if he

2226
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 3: has to fight in Ghana without a tune up, all right,

2227
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 3: if he wins, it's going to be over two and

2228
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 3: a half, it's gonna you know, yes, But I think

2229
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: your analysis seems to be potentially subconsciously teasing the idea

2230
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 3: that you don't believe John would beat in Ghana. So

2231
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 3: let me ask you if John no, no.

2232
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, quite the opposite, no.

2233
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 3: No, no, the opposite.

2234
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 2: So well, well, okay, let's let's just imagine what might happen.

2235
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy who's been telling us he's

2236
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 2: going to go to this weight class for ten years

2237
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 2: and has not done it. Number one, number two has

2238
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 2: been off for an extraordinary amount of time. Number three.

2239
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 2: Everyone just likes to forget this. He had that run

2240
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 2: in during the pandemic where he was drinking in his

2241
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 2: car and firing off shots at Albuquerque.

2242
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 4: Uh.

2243
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 2: And then you know the whole incident in Las Vegas

2244
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 2: with his now estranged I don't know what you would

2245
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 2: call her x or whatever, and his children banging his

2246
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 2: head on the car hood of a fucking police vehicle.

2247
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 2: My man's got problems, to put it quite mildly, everyone

2248
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 2: just seems to forget all of that.

2249
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 3: If they forget it, I think they realize that that's

2250
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 3: who he is, and that's the only way means that's

2251
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 3: who he is. I'm not justifying his actions under any

2252
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 3: cloud of imagination, but I think people are at the

2253
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 3: I think people are at the point where they realize

2254
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 3: he's never gonna change, and they also realize that that's

2255
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 3: how he gets the best out of himself in the cage,

2256
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 3: which ultimately fair not is the is the only real

2257
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been teflon to a large degree despite

2258
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 3: so many of these bad moments publicly, where yeah, there's

2259
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 3: times you'll lose a sponsor or, people talk bad about him.

2260
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 2: Bear enough, people always things everyone thinks this because even

2261
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 2: someone like John who, to your point, has been teflon.

2262
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no denying that everyone thinks that you

2263
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 2: know these things they forge. I don't know what people think,

2264
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 2: but they need to be reminded that you in life

2265
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: cannot outrun your problems. Cannot happen. It will not happen.

2266
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 2: They will meet a resolution one way or the other. Okay,

2267
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 2: So I want to point into this being like getting

2268
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 2: into the training probably is a bit of a distraction

2269
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 2: in that sense, or a way to manage things and

2270
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 2: another one. But let's just sort of imagine, like you've

2271
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 2: got this backdrop of problems that have driven you to training. Now,

2272
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 2: let's say he goes in there and absolutely beats the

2273
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 2: shit out of Francis and Gondu, I mean, just wipes

2274
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 2: the floor with him. What else would there be left

2275
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 2: to do? Number one? Or conversely, if he goes in

2276
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 2: there and gets absolutely fun sucking, viciously oveream kod, does

2277
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 2: he really have it in his hard hearts to come

2278
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 2: back and meaningfully put on a long rain after that,

2279
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: he would get the he would get the rematch, probably

2280
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 2: right because he's John Jones. But I'm just pointing out.

2281
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: The guy is getting significantly older. He's got all of

2282
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 2: these life problems that to my knowledge remain completely untreated,

2283
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,799
Speaker 2: and he's got this sort of really tenuous situation at heavyweight.

2284
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,480
Speaker 2: What about any of that is built for longevity?

2285
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 3: None of it, just none of it.

2286
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,480
Speaker 2: But I just don't understand.

2287
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 3: That, none of it. And it's bad, but it's Ben's

2288
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 3: standard operating procedure for him. I do pulled a couple

2289
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 3: holes in some of the things you said, not that

2290
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 3: I've suddenly become John's new fixer to defend him, Luke.

2291
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 3: You know, I've I've slung a few curveballs at John

2292
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 3: Jones and press conferences. I just haven't got dunked on

2293
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 3: with two hands let on, you know, maybe fortunately or unfortunately,

2294
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 3: but uh, yes, he has been saying it for ten years.

2295
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 3: But dude, he's been teasing the future. You really have

2296
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 3: to go up on three years. We're coming up in

2297
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 3: February on three years since he beat Dom Reys and

2298
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 3: then gave up the title to move up to heavyweight.

2299
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 3: That to me, I mean, we could say ten years,

2300
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 3: but the three years are so unanswered in terms of like,

2301
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 3: why the f is it taking this long? I know,

2302
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 3: some of it's pandemic. Then there was the argument over

2303
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 3: money and getting paid wilder money. I get it, I

2304
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 3: lived through it, which was what the f Now he

2305
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 3: is thirty five, but that's not old for a heavyweight,

2306
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 3: and you know it's it's like you you mentioned something

2307
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 3: where the key question for me in terms of this

2308
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 3: over under is if he gets knocked out, because I

2309
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,600
Speaker 3: think then you're gonna get it under no matter what,

2310
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 3: because either he never fights again if he gets knocked

2311
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 3: out badly, or he you know, maybe it's a Ronde

2312
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 3: RANDI maybe it's a Ronda versus Amanda two type of

2313
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 3: situation where he comes back for the rematch, tries it again,

2314
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe loses the second time. But I

2315
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 3: think the flip side is where you're wrong. If he

2316
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 3: comes out there and beats lives up to his potential,

2317
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 3: becomes a two division champion, and beats the toughest guy available,

2318
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 3: which in theory would be a rehabbed and ready in Ganu, dude,

2319
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 3: what is John? The only normalcy in John's life has

2320
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 3: been the success in the cage. You know that that

2321
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 3: has been something he can cling to and always know

2322
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 3: that no matter what else, happens around him, usually by

2323
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 3: his own fing up. Unfortunately, that he's fine in there, dude.

2324
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 3: If he's back on top and he's the goat again,

2325
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 3: people are not gonna be if he's like he'll be

2326
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 3: the real all time got if he beats and gone

2327
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 3: and becomes a two division champion. I'm not saying people

2328
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 3: will forget about the other stuff, but it's no longer

2329
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 3: going to be front page news until he makes it

2330
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 3: again after that, so I think.

2331
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,840
Speaker 2: That would I'm not asking people to care because.

2332
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 3: But I'm not saying you are. But I'm saying he'll

2333
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 3: be around for a long time if he beats in Ghana, dude, okay,

2334
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 3: because that's what he loves to do. Be the best,

2335
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 3: right That's you know, that's what he loves at the

2336
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 3: end of the day.

2337
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: But if that's the case, why did he take three

2338
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 2: years off?

2339
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 3: That's the unexplained answer that gives that that I no

2340
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 3: longer can carry that same confidence that I always had

2341
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 3: through ten years of him teasing that moving up that

2342
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 3: whenever he does and adds the bulk, he's going to

2343
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 3: be on beatable. Now at times, the heavyweight division wasn't

2344
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 3: as deep as it is now, and I think that's

2345
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 3: changed with that three year absence mixed with Francis being

2346
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 3: this gone being amazing. I mean, it's a new era, Luke.

2347
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's three years. I mean what it wasn't

2348
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't another You saw the suspension, right, it was like,

2349
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 3: it's just weird.

2350
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, so, so some time off made sense. I

2351
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 2: think he was burned out. That makes sense. And I

2352
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 2: think that he needs to get his body right for heavyweight.

2353
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 2: That made sense. But remember during this time off is

2354
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 2: when all of these other incidents were happening. And again

2355
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: it's like, what's the connection between that and longevity. I'm

2356
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 2: just pointing out, like everyone's like, oh, he's gotten away

2357
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: with it before. Why would you think differently, Well, let

2358
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: me explain something to you. They will catch up with you.

2359
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,799
Speaker 2: They will. They will, they will. They will take ownership

2360
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 2: over your life if they go untreated. This is just

2361
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 2: how life goes for me, for you, for everyone who watches.

2362
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: And more to the point, there's the other point we

2363
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 2: haven't talked about. Now. Of course, you have Chail telling

2364
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 2: us that he's been training with Henry so Hudo. Henry

2365
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: tells him he looks amazing and so he's gonna pick

2366
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 2: right back up. But I'm gonna go back and say

2367
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 2: it one more time. People say lots of shit about

2368
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 2: what happens in camp, what happened at the end of

2369
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 2: his run at light heavyweight, he was very beatable. In fact,

2370
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: I thought Dominic Ray has beat him, So I thought

2371
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 2: that the advantages that he had or the division rapidly declined.

2372
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: Now again, burnout probably plays a role in there as well.

2373
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 2: All my pointing out is like this idea, like John

2374
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 2: was real. John in his prime was probably as close

2375
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 2: to unbeatable as I've ever seen a fighter, right, I mean,

2376
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen anyone who's more

2377
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 2: unbeatable than that. No one truly is. But he was

2378
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 2: pretty fucking close. But he's been fighting since he was

2379
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 2: in his he was what twenty one, twenty two, he'll

2380
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 2: be thirty five now. The wear and tear significant, even

2381
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 2: with all the time off. The amount of motivation is

2382
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 2: going to play a factor. Changing his body's going to

2383
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 2: play a factor. The depreciation of skills is going to

2384
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 2: play a factor. All of these fucking things that have

2385
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 2: plagued him in his personal life, that's all going to

2386
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 2: play a factor. I just don't understand how people can

2387
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 2: look at that soup and be like, oh, that's a

2388
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 2: soup for longevity. I don't see any of that as

2389
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 2: a recipe for longevity. I see this where a short

2390
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 2: stint get in. He might go in there and fucking dominate.

2391
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more than two, maybe it's three, maybe it's four,

2392
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 2: but at most four and then getting the fuck out.

2393
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 2: I just don't believe he's gonna do it for a

2394
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 2: very long time, you know.

2395
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 3: Outside Uh, it's hard to say outside of the second

2396
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 3: Cormier fight because drugs are not It happened, and John

2397
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 3: was awesome in that second fight as he was in

2398
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 3: the first fight.

2399
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 2: He was vicious that fight.

2400
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 3: It's been a while since he's been impressive, right, I mean,

2401
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 3: osp was an interesting scenario that fight. You know, yeah,

2402
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 3: he wanted, but there was some caution. Okay, he comes

2403
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 3: back and knocks out Cormea and the rematch reminds us

2404
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 3: how great he is. Then that Gustinson rematch was weird.

2405
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 3: They changed cities. Gusta Binson folded as soon as that fight.

2406
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 3: Heated up to any degree and has never been the

2407
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 3: same since. Anthony Smith. Okay, maybe that's it. Maybe I

2408
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 3: overlooked that he did. He did kind of dominate that

2409
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 3: and look good doing so. Correct. I mean that maybe

2410
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm blowing this up.

2411
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 2: And then at first we went to a decision, So

2412
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: I think some folks were like, oh, well, why didn't

2413
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 2: you take him? Remember there was a lot of time

2414
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 2: where Anthony Smith Smith spent in Turtle. Remember that ye

2415
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 2: was kind of in Turtle, And so folks were like,

2416
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: why didn't you just polish this guy off? You know

2417
01:50:58,160 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 2: who's to say?

2418
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean, look in the Thiago Santos and dom Reyes fights,

2419
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 3: could you make arguments for both losers to have one? Yes,

2420
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 3: I get the idea that overall that's a trend of

2421
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 3: he was declining and the division was catching up. So

2422
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 3: maybe him leaving at the time he did after Rayis

2423
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 3: was smart and perfect timing in the end. But he

2424
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 3: also I mean, it's not like he fought bad in

2425
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 3: either fight. He was just a little more cautious than

2426
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 3: he should have been.

2427
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I don't think you actually can make

2428
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 2: a case that Thiago Santos won. I know, I think

2429
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 2: it was a split, so I guess one judge gave

2430
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: it to him. I could be wrong with that. I

2431
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: have to go back and look. But I didn't think

2432
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 2: that Tiago Santos won. I never thought Gustuson won. I

2433
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 2: didn't think, Ay, this guy's won. I thought dom Rays

2434
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 2: beat him cleanly, cleanly.

2435
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 3: So when you say cleanly, you mean three rounds to

2436
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 3: two cleanly, or I mean more.

2437
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 2: I thought he won the first three rounds without really

2438
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 2: any issue at all. The last two he got beat up.

2439
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: Now John came storming back. To be clear, John ended

2440
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: that one much better than dom Reyes did. For to

2441
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 2: be absolutely certain. But and if you judge Fi as

2442
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 2: a hole, then who knows it maybe went a different direction.

2443
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 2: But under the ten Nimes system.

2444
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm being overly harsh because even in

2445
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 3: the Thiago fight, I thought, you know, how do you

2446
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 3: not shoot on a guy with two bad legs by

2447
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 3: the end of it.

2448
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 2: We actually spoke to John's coaches after that fight. What

2449
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 2: they told me was that a lot of the look

2450
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 2: I don't remember we were talking about this with We

2451
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 2: were talking about this when I said linear attacks up

2452
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 2: the middle. We were talking about this on fight night Smith. Yes, no, no, no,

2453
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 2: it was during It was during fight night. We were

2454
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 2: doing the watch along. A linear attack up the middle

2455
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 2: would just be something the cloudy Oh yes, there was

2456
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker fight. So a linear attack up the middle

2457
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,759
Speaker 2: would be someone showing a knee up the middle center

2458
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 2: line or an upper cut up the middle center line.

2459
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 2: This linear attack, straight attack through the middle onto oncoming traffic.

2460
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 2: My understanding was Thiago was really tricky with what he

2461
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 2: was showing him in some of his timing, so that

2462
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 2: John was a little bit apprehensive about going for those shots,

2463
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 2: going for that space in real time. Anyway, maybe if

2464
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 2: they had a rematch, and obviously Thiago was in a

2465
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 2: different state, would be different, but but you get the idea.

2466
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 2: That's what apparently was intimidating him was that there was

2467
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,599
Speaker 2: he was just creating a real He was like inviting

2468
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 2: him on and then like creating these big threats up

2469
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 2: the middle.

2470
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 3: And to be fair, that was such a scary version

2471
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 3: of Maheta. It was the best he'll ever be. Andy

2472
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 3: was compromised wounded animal. Every in the first three rounds,

2473
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 3: especially any attempt at like explosive combinations that he put on.

2474
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 3: John was like, oh shit, Like you know, Santos came close,

2475
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 3: and I think it was closer than John wanted to

2476
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 3: landing the big one multiple times, and I can understand

2477
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 3: that apprehension, but okay, the division caught up with him.

2478
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 3: Maybe right, Let's transition out of here, Luke with something

2479
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 3: that we offer the fans every week. It's Morning Coombat

2480
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. You know they could send in

2481
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 3: their complaints and dead wrongs on Friday, but on Wednesday,

2482
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 3: it's like taking their artwork and putting it on our

2483
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 3: Morning Combat fridge to either gawk at and complain. This

2484
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,600
Speaker 3: is P one's only I'm being told by my a

2485
01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 3: P one only fan sub submission collection, Luke only all

2486
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 3: there's like the MTV All Star Challenge right here.

2487
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 2: Okay, you ready for this?

2488
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 3: This one's called fans submission. A lot of people We've

2489
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 3: got mail, yes, viewers, a lot of people are stepping

2490
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 3: up their fans of game, Luke to try to enter

2491
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 3: this title picture for MK Donk of the Year this

2492
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 3: calendar year. I even had a Chef Kaz dm me

2493
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 3: and saying don't forget me Donk of the Year.

2494
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 2: Definitely.

2495
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,799
Speaker 3: Look, everybody wants to wear the crown, but is everyone

2496
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 3: willing to put in the hours?

2497
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 2: And this Chef Caz gave me covid. Does that eliminate

2498
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 2: him from being Donk of the Year or does that

2499
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 2: actually make him Donk of the Year.

2500
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 3: We have a lot of h we have a lot

2501
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 3: of suspects into this. Let's see who gets arraigned and

2502
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 3: gets named. Uh probably will be happy if anyone gets

2503
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 3: arraigned it's him. Hey, let's start with down. I believe

2504
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 3: this is Don Piquette, the boss Lady, the wife of

2505
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 3: j Hello, MK. It's Don back again to report on

2506
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 3: my MK Global Merch Tour. It's completed now with Germany

2507
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 3: and Ireland. Friday night bar hopping in Dublin Temple Bar

2508
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 3: District with my MK shirt was a time for sure.

2509
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 3: Luckily I didn't run into Connor McGregor. Take care and

2510
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 3: all the best. It's Don Paquette. Look, she's representing our

2511
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 3: brand on a global scale. You know, it's not about

2512
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 3: places just faces. Where your buck comes from is where

2513
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 3: your space is. You know what I'm saying, I'm not

2514
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 3: going to spend my left being a COLORCUS delivered that shit.

2515
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 2: This is pretty fucking impressive. I've been to Germany, I've

2516
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 2: never been to Hanover. Uh, that's pretty impressive. O'Brien's man

2517
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 2: are all the pubs in Ireland like that?

2518
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 3: Well with a no apostrophe?

2519
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:48,919
Speaker 9: Probably yeah, O'Sullivan, Thank you Don for allowing your husband

2520
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 9: to spend just a ridiculous amount of time, you know,

2521
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 9: watching our show and building interesting fans hubs for it.

2522
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 3: Hey, let's go to Mikey. Who's Mikey?

2523
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 2: Here?

2524
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 3: This Mikey Mormile, our producer. This is called in combats

2525
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 3: pre show routine. Mike is this you submitting one?

2526
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Speaker 2: All right?

2527
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 3: The fucking.

2528
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 8: What the fuck is going on outside? I need to

2529
01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 8: get back to BET. I have a big day ahead.

2530
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 8: Oh no, oh no, what is happening? Oh no, oh no,

2531
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 8: oh no, oh no, what is happening? Oh no, oh no.

2532
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 8: Finally I have time to work out at my state

2533
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 8: of the argim I'm gonna get a good lift in today.

2534
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 3: I cannot work out with.

2535
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 2: You, man.

2536
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 8: I really need to get out of the scene, and.

2537
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 10: I can't believe I missed my alarm again. I have

2538
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 10: to feed these dogs and get on the pre show call.

2539
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 10: No funny blustiness. Just take the hot dog out of

2540
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 10: the basket. Once you vote one thousand times, I will

2541
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 10: let you out.

2542
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 4: Let me out.

2543
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 8: I'm timed to do some pressure research. It looks like

2544
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 8: alf bar lemon has a higher puffs per second, but

2545
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 8: alf bar mango has a better differentiald What do I

2546
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 8: go with for today's show?

2547
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 3: He forded my brine eliminated or clogs.

2548
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 10: Our journalist, beautiful britt I in heaven, please bring me

2549
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 10: the strength today.

2550
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 1: Look at this now, tip to tip, this is our life,

2551
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 1: this is our passion.

2552
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 3: So Luke Mikey, the gatekeeper of all things fan subs,

2553
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 3: just just after round and tried to enter the Donk

2554
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 3: of the Year contest with this one right.

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01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 2: Here, right that is that is one of the best

2556
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 2: fucking things I've ever seen. And by the way, I

2557
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 2: have to say this me vaping, which is just indefensively stupid,

2558
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 2: dubt bullshit. I mean, it's just the worst thing I

2559
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: do on earth. It has been an absolute treasure trove

2560
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 2: of content for this show. Can you at least admit that.

2561
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a clips tip to tip. We

2562
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 3: don't even talk about that anymore, Luke, it's it is.

2563
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 3: It has become the center of our show.

2564
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 2: Yes, it got this wheezy laugh now that's partly from

2565
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 2: being sick actually, But.

2566
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 3: That was good, good, good, ship, Mikey. I didn't realize

2567
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 3: that was you who made that. When you sent it in,

2568
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was a you know, webscream David Appleton production. Hey,

2569
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 3: Danger Mouse, you just saw him at the bottom of

2570
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 3: that well, so put the lotion in the basket already,

2571
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 3: he says, Hi BC, last week I made you the

2572
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 3: Duke of Donkton when I should have made you the

2573
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 3: clown prints of cocking up reading my emails. You've messed

2574
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 3: up before, but this one was off the scale. Are

2575
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 3: you the kind of douche that opens other people's mail?

2576
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 3: Why would you read out something addressed to Mikey. Maybe

2577
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 3: if you used a laptop instead of your phone, you'd

2578
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 3: be able to see the entire email. Anyway, best laugh

2579
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 3: I've had in ages, and it did give me some material.

2580
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 3: So thanks for that, you clown. Wow, Luke Hien inside

2581
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 3: from the Danger Mouse, that is awesome. I did kind

2582
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 3: of pull a shop there, Luke. I didn't realize that

2583
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 3: in real time last week. But we try to power

2584
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:00,200
Speaker 3: through these Remember on that ad read when he kept reading,

2585
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 3: like turn over page for more details.

2586
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 2: You know, like you remember that, I don't Did he

2587
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 2: do that? Yeah?

2588
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they let him have it on that on that website. Look,

2589
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. That's crazy, all right, Luke,

2590
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 3: Let's go to the second one here from Danger Mouse.

2591
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 2: That's not that's fair to Amandolaimos.

2592
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 3: First of all, that's risky there. Whoever let that one in?

2593
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 3: Right there?

2594
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 2: All right? Well that as first of all, and second

2595
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 2: of all, that's not how my hair looks. I have

2596
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 2: different kind of fucking you know what. My haircut sucks.

2597
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 2: I understand, but what can I do?

2598
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:41,960
Speaker 3: It's it only cost you a hundred bucks?

2599
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 2: It's great, Hey, this one was fifty.

2600
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 3: This one was you know, Luke, you you made a

2601
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 3: throwaway comment during the watch along that Danger Mouse has

2602
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 3: one more meme to build off of.

2603
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 2: Here, Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell The Odd Couple, a

2604
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 2: pair of washed EMMA journalists in New Jersey, say no more,

2605
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 2: why do I have a I guess it's part the thing,

2606
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 2: a ladle and a fucking duster.

2607
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 3: Because I think that's Tony Randall's character in The Odd

2608
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 3: Couple of Luca.

2609
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 2: Also, I look like I mean, I don't get me wrong,

2610
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 2: I don't think I look young, but I look even

2611
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 2: older in this rendition. And you just look like there's

2612
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 2: feces coming out of your nose and screaming down your face.

2613
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 3: All right, so it's it's accurate. Thank you Danger Mouse

2614
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 3: for roasting me so so harshly. Let's go to JP

2615
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 3: from Mount You, Nike, Nova, Scotia, Good Day Crew and Fans,

2616
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 3: with Luke perusing his own vape product line, BC revealed

2617
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 3: his love and passion for self help literature. It's PC's

2618
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 3: number one time Connecticut Best Time, Connecticut Times bestseller.

2619
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 2: You Only Better Forward by Luke Thomas. And of course

2620
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 2: I got the pipe. I told you the vape. Stop

2621
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 2: being a dirty, old washed beach.

2622
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well done, Jay, He says, uh, love you

2623
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 3: guys up the amazing ward winning showed Jay. Jay did

2624
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 3: have other ones, Luke, but they were a little racy

2625
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 3: and borderline, right, you know they were you know, had

2626
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 3: you want in a swimsuit? We had to you know,

2627
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 3: we had to tone it down a little by that.

2628
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 5: He had a lot more than that, Yeah, a lotah,

2629
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 5: Yeah he did, Yeah you did.

2630
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to Alan w. This guy's been

2631
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 3: making some noise lately on the fan subs It says

2632
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 3: Luke and Brian's relationship manifested in the Batman universe. Luke,

2633
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 3: you complete me, but please don't touch me.

2634
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 2: This is bullshit. This is bullshit. How does BC I

2635
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:34,240
Speaker 2: don't mind that he's the Joker, that's fine, but how

2636
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 2: does he get to be like the Heath Ledger Joker

2637
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,600
Speaker 2: and I got to be the old fucking dad bod

2638
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 2: Adam West fucking Batman? Can I? Can I not be

2639
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 2: a newer version of what the fuck? Luke?

2640
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 3: If the if the jumpsuit fit fits, you might as

2641
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 3: well wear it, okay, if the nylons, uh yeah, yeah,

2642
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 3: there you go.

2643
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 2: Luke, fucking hey, that is not fair at all.

2644
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 3: So what do you think I should have been? Like

2645
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 3: the Uh? Who are some bad jokers in the modern era?

2646
02:02:59,040 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 4: Luke?

2647
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 3: Like in that you know who the worst?

2648
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 8: No?

2649
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:03,440
Speaker 2: You know, you know who the worst joker is was

2650
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 2: the Jared Leto like mafioso guy. Did you see this one?

2651
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 3: Is it part of that trilogy of Dark Knight ones?

2652
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no no. He played the Joker in Suicide Squad?

2653
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 2: Did you see that? You know? I don't know?

2654
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't. I don't really mess around with

2655
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 3: too much in those categories of movies, Luke, you know.

2656
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 3: I mean I just saw Black Adams. Yeah, I just

2657
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 3: saw Black Adam and it sucked. Look, I mean, let's

2658
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:28,839
Speaker 3: be fair.

2659
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:31,879
Speaker 2: Well the Rock is nothing but a completely totally soulless

2660
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 2: corporate whore.

2661
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah it was. Whoever wrote that. It just wasn't good,

2662
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 3: you know, I mean the the thor Love and Thunder

2663
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:39,560
Speaker 3: was better. Luke, I'm sorry, and.

2664
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 2: That was not that's not saying much, that's not Yeah.

2665
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean I enjoyed. It was a good experience, but

2666
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 3: uh yeah, all right, enough of this bullshit. Thank you, Ellen.

2667
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 3: W We got one more from Wan. It's a video.

2668
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 3: It's called Vape God Thomas gets caught red handed. At

2669
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 3: two o five, you saw Abib take on Michael Johnson

2670
02:03:56,520 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 3: and we saw the introduction of many Habib catch phrase

2671
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:03,960
Speaker 3: big moments, including taking down Johnson in the corner where

2672
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 3: Dana was and peering over Michael Johnson and saying like

2673
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 3: I fight for this title I deserve.

2674
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 2: A few moments later, remember he was talking to Dana

2675
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 2: like you know, you know he was talking to he

2676
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 2: was talking to MJ in the fight.

2677
02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 3: I wonder what you do when I talk because you

2678
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 3: love to react to what with what I just said?

2679
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:21,920
Speaker 3: You're like, hey, remember this, and I'm like, yeah, I

2680
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 3: remember thirty seconds ago when I said it. This was

2681
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 3: to be kind of opening up that character, which really

2682
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 3: helped him become a pay per view star and unlikely

2683
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 3: one of sorts.

2684
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:41,120
Speaker 5: I apologize, well, they know us, they know us well,

2685
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 5: these people.

2686
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you, here's the truth A little bit.

2687
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 2: I can't speak to that particular moment exactly. I don't

2688
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 2: actually mean to be like, yo, fuck Brian. I don't

2689
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 2: care what he has to say. But sometimes I'm like, oh,

2690
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 2: I have an idea about something I want to say.

2691
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 2: I look over my computer to like double check in detail,

2692
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:01,760
Speaker 2: or like think how I want to say it.

2693
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 3: Huh vape you vape too during these min and I

2694
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 3: vabes sometimes.

2695
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 2: But the truth is that I get those ready and

2696
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 2: in the consequence I kind of like tune you out

2697
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 2: to do that, so then it creates these moments. So

2698
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 2: I apologize, bec that's shitty. I didn't mean to do that,

2699
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 2: but it is fucking funny.

2700
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,360
Speaker 3: So I mean, I've done it to you once or twice,

2701
02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:24,040
Speaker 3: so I can't be throwing glass cox at a at

2702
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 3: a bildo house. But I will say, Luke, your consistency

2703
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 3: of doing it is. It's impressive.

2704
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you're just like it's next level. Really it is.

2705
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 2: It is. Wow.

2706
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 3: All right, morning Kombat at gmail dot com. Thank you

2707
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:40,480
Speaker 3: for those P one submissions this week. A great video. Hey,

2708
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,560
Speaker 3: maybe we should probably consider along with Donk of the Year,

2709
02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 3: which I'm still down to have a public debate on

2710
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 3: on air, Luke, bring these people on, let.

2711
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:50,960
Speaker 2: Them fight for he's about to come in. I don't

2712
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:52,240
Speaker 2: want to you want to actually know what if Tuke

2713
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,320
Speaker 2: comes in, she comes in? Fuck it. That's fine, but we.

2714
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 3: Should probably have submission. Well, my larger point that I

2715
02:05:57,800 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 3: was setting up Luke was we should probably have submits

2716
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 3: of the year too, you know what I mean, meme

2717
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 3: video whatever, I mean that that video for Mikey was great.

2718
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 2: Just now, okay, yeah, it was hilarious. That was funny.

2719
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:10,280
Speaker 2: I don't have to say this one that they made

2720
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 2: of me, especially with like the Pikachu face of getting

2721
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,320
Speaker 2: caught red handed. That made me laugh. All right, very

2722
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 2: good reminder to everyone. We're back on Friday. We're gonna

2723
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:19,720
Speaker 2: have a ton of stuff for you to get ready

2724
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:22,680
Speaker 2: for all the fights. Let's see belt Warre's course is

2725
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 2: gonna be on Friday. If you want to watch that,

2726
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 2: Showtime dot com is the place to or Showtime. And

2727
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 2: if you go to Showtime dot Com, you get a

2728
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 2: thirty day free trophy. Like it, you can keep it.

2729
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 2: If not, you can bounce the merch store Morningcombat dot Store.

2730
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,839
Speaker 2: There it is Morningcombat dot Store. Be on the lookout

2731
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 2: for it for anything you want. You might want there,

2732
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 2: including that bomber jacket. Yo, you don't believe me. Believe

2733
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 2: Raffi on Stotts. You don't believe him. Believe Adrian yan

2734
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,400
Speaker 2: Yez who lots that shit. Yeah.

2735
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 3: Also, Luka, they can enter in their email address on

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Speaker 3: the front page right now of Morningcombat dot Store to

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Speaker 3: get those Black Friday exclusive deals sent to them. So,

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Speaker 3: if you've been, if you know your husband, if you

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Speaker 3: know like Jay Piquette's been, Like honey, I just you know,

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Speaker 3: when you get back from touring the planet, I'd love

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Speaker 3: you know, if I can get an allowance and get

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Speaker 3: a bomber jacket, this might be the time to get it.

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Speaker 3: Look okay with that discount.

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Speaker 2: Right, I got, I gotta I gotta move this along

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Speaker 2: because I gotta go help out with the kid. Let's

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Speaker 2: see what else at Gmail dot com Morning Combat at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com for Friday's dead wrong. Whatever we got

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Speaker 2: wrong today. I'm sure we got a shitload wrong today.

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Speaker 2: So load them up, folks, put the put the rounds

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Speaker 2: in the chamber.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is the place to

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Speaker 2: do that, and U b see anything else before we.

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Speaker 3: Go, Please watch our Room Service Diaries with Loris Senko.

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Speaker 3: It might surprise you. It surprised me, Luke. I think

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Speaker 3: we sometimes have preconceived notations of who people are, what

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Speaker 3: they're how they're wired, what they're here for. And uh,

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Speaker 3: I love an interview space like ours has become where

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Speaker 3: hey who are you? Tell us? Okay, tell us who

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Speaker 3: you are? I think she did, Luke. It was a

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Speaker 3: real fun chat. So, uh, you know, we've had some

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Speaker 3: great ones, right Chruck mindenhall Michael kias a bunch of

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Speaker 3: great ones. But we're it's only going to get better

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Speaker 3: from here. Okay, this is the future. I can't wait

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Speaker 3: until one day, Luke. Our entire show is done from

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Speaker 3: that Wayne's world looking basement and we don't do anything

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Speaker 3: else but put women on that couch, fight ass Brooke

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Speaker 3: to you by only pipes. It's time for room service diaries.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, that's it for us today. We

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Speaker 2: got you through hump Day. We'll get you through the

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Speaker 2: weekend as well. On Friday, So for maulk up for

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Speaker 2: showtime for CBS Sports. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: We're the MK crew until Friday. May all of your

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Speaker 2: gains be loyal.