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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. I've got my vabe, I've got

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Speaker 1: That can only mean one thing. It's time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody?

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Speaker 2: Wow, is this Miami? Because all I see our vice

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Speaker 1: I'm getting, I'm getting my Ryan Garcia saying.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, here you go. Hey, we probably have a

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Speaker 1: We have a great show for everyone today. So let's

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Speaker 2: We have Brandy Coturt noon.

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Speaker 1: That actually got me. That's a great bit. That's a

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Mike Perry here at noon. Ocean's Daddy,

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Speaker 1: Ocean's Daddy, Florida's Finest. He will be here. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to him at noon. But before that, UFC Saudi Arabia Talk,

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor reaction, BC's FECs. Have you seen this ship?

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Speaker 1: All that fun stuff? Even your DMS the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun one. So if you're watching

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, thumbs up on this hit subscribe. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us. I'm Louke Thomas. It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: I love that we you got texted already. Hey, you

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Speaker 2: when he did this? Oh come on, you're like, I

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Speaker 2: think he just doesn't like energy drinks. No, Luke, he

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Speaker 2: I have decent ship. I won't boast that it's a

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Speaker 1: Now. How many hawk to a references.

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Speaker 2: You gotta spin on that thing. Here's a whole mini segment. Hey,

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Speaker 2: You know, come on, baby, finish what you started. You know,

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Speaker 1: But more than that, Chandler's not giving it to him.

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Speaker 1: This is what in twenty sixteen he would say. This

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Speaker 2: it is really hard. I'm getting that picture from this

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Speaker 2: whole scenario that it's much more than the toe. In reality,

434
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Speaker 2: the toe is the blinking red light in Amsterdam that

435
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Speaker 2: got you questioning your more because it's regulated. Also the logic,

436
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 2: I mean, should I should? You know she's waiting me on,

437
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 2: it's regulating eye contact.

438
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 1: We're here. This is why again I go back to it.

439
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: People keep pretending like they don't understand this point. If

440
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Speaker 1: the toe was broken like that with a clean break, right,

441
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: it's totally clean. It wasn't like it was half broken.

442
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: They're like, well, well's clean break, which you know again

443
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 1: you can make that. That's the diagnosis. How is it

444
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Speaker 1: possible it took so long for them to come to

445
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 1: a situation where they were then moving on, and everyone's like, oh,

446
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: it took almost two weeks for them to find the replacement.

447
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,919
Speaker 1: No one didn't. It took it's forty eight to seventy

448
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 1: two hours to find the replacement. Everything else was hemming

449
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 1: and hawing. So to your point, is it was there

450
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 1: a full court press when the UFC being like, yeah, dude,

451
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Speaker 1: you can fight this way. You're gonna be a little

452
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Speaker 1: bit hobbled, but you can do it, and then Connor

453
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: backing off and saying I don't want to do it again.

454
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I I am of the belief BC

455
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 1: again that it's possible for him to have done this

456
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Speaker 1: to have competed again at what cost We'll never know.

457
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: But now we're on the other end of it, where

458
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Speaker 1: he has ask for extra time. You will obviously now

459
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Speaker 1: get it whenever they rebook him. We'll see what that is.

460
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: And now if you lose even asking for the extra time,

461
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not like a loss would be great in either circumstance,

462
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Speaker 1: but you would at least understand it a little bit

463
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Speaker 1: more if you had gone on their hobble. Now he's saying,

464
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go in there only when I'm fully prepared.

465
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Speaker 1: If you lose, then what does that do to any

466
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Speaker 1: kind of evaluation about who you are at this point

467
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Speaker 1: in the fight game.

468
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Speaker 2: But it's not just the pr in my opinion, that

469
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: he's losing by executing this, letting it play out the

470
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Speaker 2: way that it has, right with the big secrecy and

471
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Speaker 2: now him coming out and really not looking like the

472
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Speaker 2: tough warrior of old, it really starts to make you

473
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Speaker 2: question some things, a lot of things on how the message,

474
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Speaker 2: how the message was delivered, whether I don't know, I

475
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Speaker 2: just I got a really I don't know, I just

476
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 2: got a really weird feeling.

477
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Speaker 1: It's the opposite of it, dude, Like he used to

478
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Speaker 1: be defiant and aggressively defiant, like all the rules that

479
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Speaker 1: keeps you bums grounded on Earth. I defined now now

480
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: Icarus has flown too close to the Sun. He's become

481
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Speaker 1: a different person, and he's descending back to Earth, and

482
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: now he wants to be like, well, I'm now I

483
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Speaker 1: got to make smart decisions about my health and blah

484
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: blah blah. It's like, dude, this is the opposite of

485
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Speaker 1: how you got famous.

486
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Speaker 2: Answer to me this. It's not just a pr hit.

487
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: This has to bring down his number of what he's

488
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Speaker 2: going to get paid when he does come back and

489
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Speaker 2: seemingly fight Chandler. Right, the UFC can't in terms of

490
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 2: like pay per views, in terms of the guarantee.

491
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Speaker 1: That's why probably already contractually locked up. I don't know

492
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Speaker 1: that that's true.

493
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Speaker 2: There's got to be leverage lost in that regard.

494
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Speaker 1: And this is the point too. It's like, dude, I've

495
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Speaker 1: said it a million times. We know the story. If

496
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Speaker 1: you're this famous and you're this successful as a fighter,

497
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to know when to quit. I understand it,

498
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: But like, this is the point I'm trying to make,

499
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: Like you're he has already beaten the game, and now

500
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to justify an extended tenure past that it

501
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: might work for whatever a purpose he has left. But

502
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's working, and now we have

503
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Speaker 1: ever more reason to doubt that it ever will. I'm

504
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Speaker 1: not suggesting that I know for effect it won't. I'm

505
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: simply remarking we're in such a different place than everything

506
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: that boosted his appeal to begin with.

507
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Speaker 2: Okay, to final question on here, because the big bad

508
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: taste in my mouth. There's two things. One was my

509
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: sort of fear that Connor is just sort of going

510
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: through the motions and trying to, you know, take the

511
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: piece of gum off the side of the damn that's

512
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: in place in a new spot in that regard. But

513
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: the whole idea of like the message being received and

514
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: how weird it was, and there were two weeks of

515
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: us doing all these conspiracy theories. In hindsight, is it

516
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: safe to say that the reason why this was handled

517
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: so cryptically is because the UFC was so anxiously trying

518
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: to keep alive of hope that they could convince Connor

519
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: to take the fight. Or is it because in general

520
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: they there's certain things that they really don't want to

521
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 2: come to light because it may paint you. Think of

522
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: what Chail's saying about Connor. Chail matter of Faculty saying

523
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: on his ESPN show that Connor's in rehab. I'm not

524
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: sure if it's true, but it's sort of like a

525
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: rumor that's out there. Is this UFC sort of doing

526
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: pr damage control on any future Connor pay day by

527
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 2: not releasing the news on it, by keeping everything so

528
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: close to the vest. Is it instead of this being

529
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: this thing against m media or whatever however you want

530
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: to frame it, is it more just them trying to

531
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Speaker 2: protect their asset. They don't want the full story to

532
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: come out, so that we're not sitting here speculating.

533
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Speaker 1: I think that, again, this is a hunch. You're asking

534
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: me for a hunch. My hunch is that they felt

535
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Speaker 1: like this was a bad look for Connor, and they

536
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Speaker 1: were at least willing to prevent that from going as

537
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Speaker 1: public as a share could have been. YEA, he ended

538
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: up taking it public. I guess enrage about what Chail

539
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Speaker 1: sNaN had said. By the way, he also responded to

540
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Speaker 1: Daniel Quormi gave did you notice that he didn't mention

541
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: him by name, but he mentioned that Chandler was going

542
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: to get ten x with him what he would ordinarily get.

543
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: And if you go back to the episode where Jail

544
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: and DC are going back and forth, Chail said the

545
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Speaker 1: rehab thing, and then DC was like, Chandler should move

546
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: on because he could, you know, he'll get more money

547
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: and he'll be able to do more and staying active

548
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: than he will be waiting. And then Connor responds to that.

549
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: So I guess, dude, I'm not even kidding. I think

550
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: the guy woke up and saw a good guy, bad

551
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: guy or whatever the show's called, and then just fucking

552
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: rate tweeted about his health situation, which to your point,

553
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: they were trying to at least not obscure but keep

554
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: damage control. Yeah, just keep a little bit damage control

555
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: to avoid any broader inquiry about it.

556
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: Strange times, strange times to be alive. Indeed, wow worthy

557
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: of topic number one. As with his Connor saga and

558
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: scenario continues to play out. Topic number two, though, brings

559
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: us back to where the UFC was this Saturday. For

560
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: the first time ever, Saudi Arabia in a debut fight

561
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 2: Night card that you know, had certain elements to it

562
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: that felt like a little bit more and boy can't

563
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: wait for have you seen this shit when we watched

564
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: the budding bromance here between one Turkey Ala Chic and

565
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: Dana White. But in the cage is what mattered most

566
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: patchwork main event, but we were excited about it. But

567
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Speaker 2: former middleweight world champion Robert whiteaccurdspite taking on the dangerous

568
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: Ikram Alaskaov in extreme last minute scenario looked very much

569
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: like the living legend label we've been giving him of late.

570
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: He needed less than a round and he really needed

571
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: little time at all to put together brutal combinations, the uppercut,

572
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: the first round knockout, the first loss of alis Karov's

573
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: UFC run. But bigger than that, Luke, what did Robert

574
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: Whitaker prove most with this resounding victory Saturday afternoon on ABC.

575
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: It's a great question, and I'm going to say it

576
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: like this. He could have thought, potentially, let's say someone

577
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: else ranked inside the top five ish kind of space,

578
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: an Assordine Imovov, a Brendan Allen, even a somebody else

579
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: in that space, and he probably would have won. I'll

580
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: get to that in just a second. And maybe he

581
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have got as dramatic a victory, although it's possible,

582
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: but let's just say he had, and let's just say

583
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: it had been a little bit more pedestrian the whole way.

584
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: People have said, well, what does it really mean that

585
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: he beat an unranked guy? Well, sure, if he had

586
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: beaten Imovov over the course of five rounds, four rounds

587
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: to one, that would have proven more about how worthwhile

588
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: the victory is. But to me, that really misses the

589
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: point here. What Robert Whittaker did was let everybody know.

590
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: Number One, there's levels to this. I mean, holy shit

591
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: that loves to this. Number Two, there's people who have

592
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: warned the belt or are currently wearing the belt at middleweight,

593
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: and then there's everybody else. I don't know if he

594
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing to hamzat Chimaiev. I

595
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: don't really have any any interest in watching that fight

596
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: because there's four guys at middleweight DDP is he Whittaker,

597
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: and I think you have to put Strickland in there

598
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: as well. Those four it's those foot it's the four

599
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: horsemen of one eighty five, and then everybody else. And

600
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: what Whittaker did on Saturday was I mean in bulldozing

601
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Alice Karoff didn't make it close for a second. Is

602
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: not just a reminder of how exciting he can be

603
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: and how good he can be. He has not lost

604
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: in any capacity the thirst and hunger or a title,

605
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: and he reminded us he is just as dangerous, if

606
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: not more than one. When he won the title, I

607
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: actould say when he had the title four years and

608
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: now I think nine months ago was the last time

609
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: he basically had it. He's as good as that, if

610
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: not better. Still wants it just as much. And in

611
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: dispatching this guy the way he did, stamped a ticket

612
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum or a strickland Whittaker coman on

613
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: a three to zero five card. I know he said

614
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: he would fill in. I think that's a waste of

615
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: his time, But if he wants to do it whatever,

616
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: he is still capable, very clearly BC of winning that

617
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: UFC middleweight title. When you get rid of a guy

618
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: like that on by the way, everyone's like they both

619
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: had camps, Yeah, but they each had to fight each

620
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: other with very minimal preparation for that specific opponent. Look

621
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: at what Whittaker did, diagnosed him within ninety seconds and

622
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: put him the fuck away, and you.

623
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: Got a factor in the unknown of what Alice Garoff

624
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: brought to the table for Whittaker. But to Harry Whittaker

625
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: so defiantly afterwards, because by the way he got shellacked

626
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: by the Russian speaking media, did you see that there

627
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: was sort of question after question that to be translated

628
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: of course to him that eventually the spirit of the

629
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: question was, Hey, great win, and you're a great fighter,

630
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: but you were preparing for this monster in Chamaiev. Does

631
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: it take away from your win at all that you

632
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: know you had an easier fight. That's like sort of

633
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: just suddenly pissing on what aliscarav brought to the table

634
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: and what you know, what Whittaker had to do in

635
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: the face of that a couple times was to bring

636
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: out the levels and really put out that. But what

637
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: he said was, look, I was prepared for twenty five

638
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: minutes of hell of war with Jamaiev. So when you

639
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: know the dedication that he put in because he's at

640
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: that point, was he thirty three three, It's at that

641
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: point where any given night he's either going to give

642
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: you a tease that he's getting old, or he's gonna

643
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: do this remind you that on any given night he

644
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: can beat anybody in the division, which he can, that

645
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: is without certainty. But for a shitty situation losing such

646
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: a big name opponent in Chamaiev, he really played it

647
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: best case scenario picked you know, got the right guy

648
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: that would justify him fighting like an unranked guy because

649
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: at least aliscarrav was coming up, and we suddenly were like, wait,

650
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: has Whittaker taking too much jammage? In general? Is you

651
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: walking in to a buzzsaw? And then to beat him

652
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: with the dominance that he did, he actually can in

653
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: this situation entertain a conversation that he may have cut

654
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: to the front of the line. And it's like this

655
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: division is already like the best soap opera division in

656
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: the sport right now. It is like the most musty

657
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: TV in the top end players. Anytime you match them

658
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: together tactically, the fights are close. There's a lot of

659
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: history at stake. Whenever out of Sonya and Whittaker, former

660
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: champions are getting involved ddps, they're Stricklands rising. I mean,

661
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: you got Bo Nickel and Joe Pifer and the new

662
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: generation coming behind him. But what Whittaker did in winning this,

663
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: I think just added like another curve and storyline into

664
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: this division of what we're doing. And Luke, they say,

665
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: what the rudest thing you can do is bring flowers

666
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: to a funeral, because it suggests that you didn't bring

667
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: those flowers to somebody when they were alive. I don't

668
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: want to be that guy that misses it. So every

669
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: time we say Robert Whittaker's name, we got to add

670
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: living legend after it. I mean, it was certainly a

671
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: circumstances of illness and the reality of ten rounds of

672
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: fighting Yolo Romero that sort of wounded Whitaker at times,

673
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: and you know, lost his belt and into a tough

674
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: opponent historically and out of Sonya, although I do believe

675
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: he won the rematch, and no one wants to talk

676
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: about that anymore. But think about his losses. Think about

677
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: his losses. Yeah, he got one sided in Railroaded by DDP,

678
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: but look at how he's bounced back from there. Yeah,

679
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: he's got two losses to out of Signya. But it's

680
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: still in play that they could one day fight a

681
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: trilogy and that it would matter for a title. I

682
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: hope Whittaker gets the selective treatment that will form your champion.

683
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: This popular gets because he is in that poorier Max

684
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: Holloway portion of his great career where it's like he's

685
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: still here and can win back the title and start

686
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: a new chapter. Yet I feel like we have to

687
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: treasure what we have here. One of the greatest, most

688
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: well rounded, durable, thoughtful fighters that we've seen in this era.

689
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: And it's like every time he gets this type of win,

690
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: it reminds me of Pooria going in there and head

691
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: kicking BSD of like damn Max going in there and

692
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: doing what he did to Gaechee. It's like, man, this

693
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: guy still got it. What is the path though, to

694
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: get back and get that chance? When you look at

695
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: the players in this division, what is that path? So

696
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: it looks at his opportunity, So it looks like.

697
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: UFC three or five, which will be in all Australia

698
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: is going to be Izzy.

699
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: And DDP and Whitaker said he would be the backup.

700
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: And Whittaker said he would be the backup. And by

701
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: the way, that could be very relevant. We don't know

702
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: how who the hell knows what could happen by the

703
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: time we get there, So Whittaker can easily just slide

704
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: in that direction. A lot of people have said, what

705
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: about Whittaker versus Sean Strickland as the comain. I gotta

706
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: tell you I wouldn't hate that be see.

707
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: But should he have to climb another one? He mean

708
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: Costa and sort of a okay, where are you at?

709
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Check in yep, after being brutally finished by a DDP.

710
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: But this is a big power move. This might like

711
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm not like if Strickland got the next one after

712
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: this based on what happens, then look it has to

713
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: be based on because if Izzy wins back this title

714
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: and the thriller, they probably go to a trilogy with TDI.

715
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is Strickland fought Costa after losing and won,

716
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: so did Whittaker, and now Whittaker has added Alis Scaraf

717
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: on top of it. And by the way, don't lose

718
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: that of something. He was in the main event of

719
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: UFC Saudi Arabia when Hamzat fell out, Whittaker contractually had

720
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: the right to be like, I'm done here, I'm not

721
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: going to compete. I want to wait for that guy

722
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. He could have easily not stayed on the cart.

723
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: To stay on the card. They gave him an unranked

724
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: guy who certainly I don't think that was the best

725
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: version of what Alice Garoff can be or will be,

726
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: but certainly a threat and fucking Whittaker go mod.

727
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this on the demolished part, because

728
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: what did I say in the in our Friday special

729
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: show to tee this up? Like we haven't seen this

730
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: guy get a stop it since twenty seventeen. Is it

731
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: asking too much at this point in his veteran career

732
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: to make a change and be more offensive and go

733
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: after it? You heard his comments afterwards from here on out,

734
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm only going after and going after the finish.

735
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: Now.

736
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Look, it's one thing to say that, but on the

737
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: elite level against Izzy, that's hard. Reason why you don't

738
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: see a lot of finishes on that level. Did this though,

739
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: even though he thought maybe the perfect I'll scare of

740
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: on the short notice and just really showed him the levels.

741
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: Is this sustainable? Can he be more offensive minded where

742
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: he can be this dangerous dude?

743
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I will tell you what, man, this is a true

744
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: story about life and Whittaker just really exemplifies this and

745
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean this with absolute sincerity to the extent you

746
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: or I or anyone watching this has spent any amount

747
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: of time in their adult life trying to get good

748
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: at something. There is one lesson that you inevitably pick

749
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: up that you really can't lose. Sight of progress is

750
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: simply not linear. It is not like this, it's this

751
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: and back in all kinds of mk. It felt like

752
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: that for a while, and then it was Malaysia Air

753
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: the last six months. But now listen, they found the

754
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: wreckage and we're trying to put the plane back together.

755
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: And I won't eat your ass to live. I won't.

756
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that soccer movie. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, but

757
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: you get my point. It's not linear. It's not linear

758
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: at all. There are all kinds of setbacks, sometimes big,

759
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: sometimes small, and he has done nothing but stayed the course.

760
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: And I want to make a point about his game

761
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: if I can. But I really love about Whittaker's game,

762
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: which I did not always love to begin with because

763
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't fully there. Now it's fully there. Robert Whittaker

764
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: is well rounded, like he can do basically everything. But

765
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: he can't do everything all that great nobody can. He's

766
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: got strengths and weaknesses too. But what I love about

767
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: his game BC you know, and you see this a

768
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not gonna say they're identical, but you

769
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: see this in Problem Solver Boxer. It's like Tank Davis's

770
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Problem Solver Boxer. He can diagnose what the situation is

771
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to have all the skills. He

772
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: takes his existing skill set, makes a read and then

773
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: acts upon it based on the direct stimulus that his

774
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: opponent is giving him, and then runs him over. That way,

775
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: he problem solves. Everything in his game is smoothly interconnected.

776
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: There's no there's no inefficiency to how it all works.

777
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: To be fair, I wouldn't put Woodley on this level. Sorry,

778
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: No easy Dana right in terms of the striking, no,

779
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: definitely not definitely not.

780
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: The way he put the whole game together diagnosed the

781
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: problem of his opponent forced you into into one lane.

782
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: I would say, Whittaker, how to have to go back

783
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: and look at some of Woodley's footage to give a

784
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: better answer. But certainly, certainly that is what carried him

785
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: forward in this fight, and he has just he has

786
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: relentlessly tried to stay on this non linear path. Back

787
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: to the title, And I made this point on Saturday ABC,

788
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: which is you know, I remember when Rich Franklin lost

789
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: to Anderson Silva and we were like, all right, that

790
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: was really bad when the time, Yeah, and the post

791
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: second then he fought him again and it was also

792
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: really fucking bad. Remember, dude, he came this close to

793
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: beating Izzy in the rematch, and I know he's had

794
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: some setbacks so as Izzy since that time as well. Dude,

795
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: it is absolutely possible. Two point we say, oh, he

796
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: can beat anyone on the division at any day. No, Whitaker

797
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: might actually be the best guy in this weight class.

798
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: I know he just got fished with DP three fights ago.

799
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Are you really gonna count him out? Are you really

800
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: gonna say he can't do it? Are you really gonna

801
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: offer that up? I have such admiration for a guy

802
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: who has had this and then this, and then goes

803
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: back and then this, and then goes back and continues

804
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: to refine, continues to get better, and then you see

805
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: results like that. Dude, he has earned the biggest possible

806
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: opportunity at middleweight and it's a life lesson for how

807
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: building yourself should should look.

808
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: And Bobby Knocks is just that dude though, Like I've

809
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: always respected how he never really cared in interviews it's

810
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: hard to like get a great Bobby Knuckles interview because

811
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: he's always just sort of been like, yeah, whatever, mate,

812
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: you got a lot of mate thrown out you almost

813
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: like I could rip you right now, mate, but instead

814
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: I'll just kind of speak down to you. And it's

815
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: it is but yet, like I don't know, there's just

816
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: something about the aura and what he represents that that

817
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: you know. It's it's like I say, like Dustin Poier

818
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: is an American hero, this man is an Oceanic hero.

819
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Good Old, what did it mean if you got the

820
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: title back? How remarkable would that?

821
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be remarkable because the gap between

822
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: it and and and look like it's like one of

823
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 2: those things where it's like, you know, I could argue

824
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: that he won the Izzy second fight, and I can

825
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: argue that the first fight, man, was he really physically compromised.

826
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: Although look that version of his he's probably gonna everyone,

827
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: but he went through like legitimate pitfalls that would send

828
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: someone in the other direction for good Luke. And it's

829
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: not just the physical you know, remember when the Gasoline

830
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: fight got canceled. He was going through that stretch of

831
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: physically his body just wasn't staying together. It was also

832
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: like the mental stuff he had to get through, and

833
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: he was very open about, you know, the depression he

834
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: went through in certain times of that, getting the highs

835
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: of winning the championship and the losing it when he

836
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: really wasn't one hundred percent for him to endure and

837
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: now still be when the division is this deep in

838
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: argument that he may be the best. I can't wait

839
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: to see what like the sequels bring us? What the

840
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: you know, it's like sort of looking at this Dune franchise.

841
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: Now they want to do a third one, man, I

842
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: can't wait to look three books. Well, there's there's like

843
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: a lot of books, but there's only like the first

844
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: three or what like the hard like hardcore is like

845
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: web Scream. You know Christo's Christophers will be like, well

846
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: they you know, they get bad at a certain point.

847
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: But it's like I want to see the ending of it.

848
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, if we know the next

849
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: movie in this middleweight Championship picture is what you mentioned,

850
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: Uh is he trying to trying to win the title

851
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: for a third time against CDP. What are the next

852
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: two fights after that? Like, what are the coming attractions?

853
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: What is the lineage of the of the middleweight championship

854
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: going to look like in your opinion, I mean, it's.

855
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: Hard to get. It's hard. It's hard to gauge because

856
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: everyone except for Whittaker and Strickland to each other. Everyone

857
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: has a relationship with the other one like.

858
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: This, TAMAIAV never get there.

859
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: Who knows like this is dude, chamaia I want to

860
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: say this, if you're a Whittaker, it isn't insult to

861
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: give him a fight except anybody, either for a title

862
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: or for number one contender, And even the number one

863
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: contender is a little iffy.

864
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah it is a or is he because of the history?

865
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: But now he's got touch shuts it does it's a

866
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: moot point anyway.

867
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: Fine, okay, there's a little bit of history there, but again,

868
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: former champions sort of what we're talking about here. Dude,

869
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: you just go down the list like imvov. Is that

870
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: is that a waste of Whitaker's time? Yes, it is.

871
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: You could go down to Hermanson and Alan. These are

872
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: not bad fighters, but these are a waste of his time.

873
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: The only one that would have made interesting sense is

874
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: what we talked about the possibility of Bownekel now that

875
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: we know what we know about the version of on

876
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: the feet, and he would have.

877
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: He would have stifled the wrestling, I think enough to

878
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: then light him up on the feet. It wouldn't have

879
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: been like this where he just let him up to

880
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: begin with. I don't think. But but dude, it's a

881
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: waste of his fucking time. It's a waste of his time.

882
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: It is either is he ddp or at worst Sean

883
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Strickland and nobody else.

884
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Do you think the smart cage said that same thing

885
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: to Randy Cooter each of the last two weeks.

886
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Randy, you have.

887
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 2: Interviews, say waste of your fucking time.

888
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Do not show up.

889
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Somebody, get hardy up in the bullpen.

890
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: This strike was delivered at seventeen miles per hour. I'll

891
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: just say this one thing about Hamzat Chimayev thirty years old,

892
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I would say the first half of his prime did

893
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: not go great. It didn't go poorly, but it did

894
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: not go great. He still has the second half of

895
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: his prime, which you can still do a lot with.

896
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: They said maybe Abu Dhabi in October is a potential

897
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: timeline return. I guess we'll see. But coming out of

898
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: this fight. Even though alas Kaiov got run over, there

899
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: was no part of me that looked at this and goes, oh,

900
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: they've got to make that fight with Hamzad. They have

901
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: to run this one back. It's important that these two

902
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: settle this. No no, no no. Whitaker's on to something

903
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: else and Hamzad has some building back to do. They

904
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: are in very different places.

905
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: That's another guy they can't trust five main events, and

906
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: he hasn't been able to okay, but his.

907
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Situation appears to be like much more dire, like literally

908
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: existential in terms of af career.

909
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: For sure, and he can't fly everywhere, which is becoming

910
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: a You know, Dana said the same thing about Charlie Bullet.

911
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: He's like, let me ask you about the Charla bulleting

912
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: very quickly. If if Dana is and I'm asking here,

913
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm actually not declaring, I am asking. But if Dana

914
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: is saying, hey, we can't bring this guy to the

915
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: United States because he won't be able to get a

916
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: commission to license him based on his eye injury, how

917
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: is it not commission shopping to do what they're doing.

918
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Oh so their commission shopping based on government.

919
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: They self regulate in Saudi Arabia, they self regulate based

920
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: basically in the.

921
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: Only restriction is you can't fly to the US based

922
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: upon your relationship with with no.

923
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: I think his issue is he can't get regulated because

924
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: of his eye.

925
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, then that is shopping.

926
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: That's commission shopping. I was thinking, why can't he come over?

927
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy fucking shit, guards. They're not saying he

928
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: can't come in the country that I'm aware of. What

929
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: they're saying is they can't get licensed because of his eye.

930
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Do MMA fans ANSWER's question in twenty twenty four do

931
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: they know it'slated by the government. I honestly don't know

932
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: if they know that or not.

933
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: No, I told you that. My dad up until two

934
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: years ago still thought it was bare knuckle no rules.

935
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: He's like, right, probably like we used to watch in

936
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: like ninety three, right, like same thing, like no rules.

937
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: They can just kick the guy in the crotch A GAF.

938
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Can you get on the mic very quickly so the

939
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: audience can hear you.

940
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: People need to hear going on, right, gaff?

941
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Is it not commission shopping if they're keeping him there

942
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: because they can't bring him to the US.

943
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: That is exactly commissions commission shop. Okay, can we talk

944
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: about one other thing related to sharl Bullet. Yeah, he

945
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: thought Mackenzie Durn's husband on like a three hour nose.

946
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: He's a little a little radio.

947
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: You were right, but it's worse.

948
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: You you were.

949
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: Questioning whether the ground game would equal the ferocious striking

950
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: and the fact that he sort of plays this character

951
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: of this like foreign villain with the red hair. I

952
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: love like the like the package looks great, nice package

953
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: look but like he only won this fight because his

954
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: opponent was not ready for fifteen minutes of war and

955
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: because he grabbed the fence relentlessly, luke in key spots

956
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: to avoid getting taken down and was barely.

957
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: Warned and pumped the brakes on his upside.

958
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: You know, Like this guy was like a walking corpse

959
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: by the end, just waiting to be hit.

960
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: And he's still so he seems like a bad person.

961
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: He was. He was the one that, oh he kicked

962
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: the guy at the jiu jitsu tournament. And isn't this

963
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: also the guy that got got in the couple's face

964
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: in Russia because they had the audacity to kiss on

965
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: an escalator. This guy, oh I didn't know about that. Well,

966
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: then everyone's like, oh, he's fucking awesome, He's fucking awesome.

967
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, you know what's interesting awesome is a

968
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: strong This is the difference between us. You know nothing

969
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: when it comes to MMA fighter like power couples and

970
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: they they're married, this fighter or this trainer, Like you know,

971
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: you could you couldn't be bothered.

972
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: You don't want to know about Merle.

973
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: And did she Is it her fault that Botan moved on?

974
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's up not.

975
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Up to you.

976
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: But you know every public slight, every foreign dictator, that

977
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: every fighter could be.

978
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: Linked to, you know everything there there's a lot of it.

979
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: There's a lot of it in this sport. My dad

980
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: was asking me about it. My dad was looking into it.

981
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: He was like he had found out that when Bolsonaro

982
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: fled Brazil after Lula he stated at Jose Aldo's house

983
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: in Orlando. He's like, Jose Aldo was a was an

984
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: MMA fighter. My dad don't know anything. I'm like, well,

985
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: not just an MMA fighter, one of the fucking best

986
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: of all time. And then he had heard about uh,

987
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: I forget who it was he was running for some

988
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: was it oveream in parliament, somebody, somebody in Europe had

989
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: run for office from an MMA backround. He's like, I

990
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: don't think there's any other sport where people go from

991
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: fist fighting one another to then sorry, from like active

992
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: competition to trying to run for office as much as MMA,

993
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: or at least to be like, yeah, it used to.

994
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Be boxing too, though, boxing two Pakia, Eric Morales.

995
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. It's weird though.

996
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: Combat sports makes people want to like be government adjacent

997
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: or well.

998
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: I think in some of the other country, the second

999
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: and third world countries, when you get to that global

1000
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: level level of fame, you become you can.

1001
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Do anything, you can do anything. Yes, yeah, all right,

1002
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: very good. We're gonna be joined in fifteen minutes, allegedly

1003
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: by Randy Catore. Now I'm teasing Mike Parris.

1004
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: Which is a great yet by the way, Perry, by

1005
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: the way.

1006
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: How fucking hilarious would it be if it's actually Randy

1007
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: with Perry? We do ad literary Wow, Wow, we can

1008
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: ask them about dumb caage which, by the way, did

1009
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: anybody watch Belatore or PFL this past weekend? Did anybody

1010
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: I watched Paul Hughes.

1011
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: I can't watch.

1012
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: He was really good, Max. So I figured out a

1013
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: solution to that. Yeah, can I give it to you?

1014
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: Just don't watch? Yeah, I got it.

1015
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: How we get around all this bill shit? Just don't watch?

1016
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: I got it. Here's my PFL coverage. It doesn't exist.

1017
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: Ye if you if you're gonna miss it, and when

1018
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: you see the thumbnail pop up ahead of time, add

1019
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: it to like my events or my list and then

1020
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: you can go back and then find it on your

1021
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: lists after it's over. Because I tried yesterday to go

1022
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: and search Belat or Dublin. You can't find it. But

1023
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: then I clicked under my list of stuff and it

1024
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: was right there. So that's a way to get around. Okay,

1025
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: all right, it's a great deal that you.

1026
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: When I think about Max, I think of enduring movie

1027
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: franchises like Night Eyes with Shannon Tweed and uh and

1028
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: uh that guy Stevens.

1029
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that Civil War movie over

1030
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: the weekend.

1031
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with Night Eyes one, two

1032
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: or three.

1033
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: I know. I just wanted to change the subjects. I

1034
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: find you boring. All right, let's go topic number three

1035
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: if we can, yes very quickly, how about this one.

1036
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: Your guy had a big win in the co main

1037
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: event at UFC Saudi Arabia, Alexander Volkov basically routing Sergey Pavlovitch.

1038
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: I think one judge gave him one round, but that

1039
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: was really about it. So let me ask you, in

1040
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: this big CO Maine event win in Saudi Arabia, did

1041
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: he show you with this performance and then what he's

1042
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: done up to this point that he can win a

1043
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: UFC title.

1044
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: It's still matchup dependent, but yes, he took that step forward.

1045
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't as big of a step as I said,

1046
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: could happen. I said, what if he walks in there

1047
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: and stops Pavlovitch. Pavlovitch coming off a fight that would

1048
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: have put him in a title fighter, an interim one

1049
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: against aspinall or maybe it was for the interim title, Luke,

1050
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: But the whole point was if he had gone in

1051
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: there and done that, it would have been such an explosive,

1052
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: explosive move. Four straight wins over some relative names in

1053
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: there too. Didn't get the stoppage, but look, I wonder

1054
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: if he did more to potentially convince you. And I

1055
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: say matchup dependent because it's not without flaws. Somebody with

1056
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: speed can still light him up. Somebody who can wrestle

1057
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: can still make it a problem. Although he has worked

1058
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: on his takedown defense and he is strong as shit.

1059
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: But am I riding the surge or am I riding

1060
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: the Volkoff train? Only because Sasha and I look alike? Luke,

1061
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: because you've told me I look like a dime store,

1062
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 2: dollar store version of Volkoff? I'll still take that because

1063
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: that guy's a badass. Has he not evolved his striking

1064
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: with the switching of stances, with the level changes, like

1065
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: there's a lot more in their wrinkles. Look, at the

1066
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: end of the day, there's still distance you have to

1067
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: cross to score on him that he can make you

1068
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: pay with big counter shots, with heavy leg strikes. He's

1069
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: still a physical force in there. Elite guys that can

1070
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: package in the speed or the wrestling, it's going to

1071
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: be a problem. But I'm watching a guy now with

1072
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: four straight wins, and you got to think about the

1073
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: level of danger that Pavlovitch springs, where he was really

1074
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: never in danger in this fight. He did take a

1075
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: couple of clean shots, but he took him well. I mean,

1076
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: this was masterclass against an elite heavyweight. Not all heavyweights

1077
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: are made the same. They bring different you know, It's

1078
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: why styles make fights. But tell me this guy isn't

1079
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: angling toward a title now when we consider we may

1080
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: never see John Jones again after the Steepe fight. Yeah,

1081
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: there's a dream scenario of Alex moving on to fight

1082
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: John Champion versus Champion who knows. But if Aspinall is

1083
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: ready coming out of the whole John Jones scenario and

1084
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: he needs a dangerous title shot, you could do a

1085
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: lot worse than Volkov, because I think he does bring

1086
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 2: danger to the right matchup.

1087
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: I would say this, I think that might be one

1088
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: of the best performances I've seen from him. Comprehensively. It

1089
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: was an excellent job maintaining range, making adjustments because he

1090
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: actually started out orthodox and ended up staying in South

1091
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: Paul the majority of the time. That added the distance

1092
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: between himself and Pavlovitch.

1093
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: And he was tearing up that lead like tearing.

1094
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: Up to do it. How about the kicking to the body,

1095
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: both in keeping the backhand of Pavlovitch holstered, as well

1096
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: as getting underneath the elbow there and cracking his ribs.

1097
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: He was doing all kinds of great kicking work. So

1098
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I have been there's Sometimes fighters

1099
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: have performances in fights and it may not really matter

1100
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: long term, but it can end up like affecting how

1101
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: you look at them. And I remember watching his fight

1102
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: with Vitali Minikov back in twenty thirteen, a long time ago.

1103
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. He was a tall guy at

1104
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: that time in twenty thirteen. If you were not watching MM,

1105
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: you won't appreciate this. There are now a lot of

1106
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: tall guys in MMA who actually do a pretty decent

1107
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: job of fighting tall. But twenty thirteen was the era

1108
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: of Stefan Struve, where there was a bunch of tall guys.

1109
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: He kind of exemplified it. There's a bunch of tall guys,

1110
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: none of which who fought tall. Volkov does a really

1111
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: really good job in MMA context of using his frame

1112
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: to his advantage tactically, strategically. There was such a good

1113
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: job by him, I really have to give him credit.

1114
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: So to answer the original question I asked you, was like,

1115
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: did I see someone who can beat Tom Aspinall or

1116
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: John Jones? I really didn't, to be honest with you,

1117
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: I did not remember tom Aspinall defeated both Sergey Pavlovich

1118
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: and Alexander Volkov combined in less than a round. It

1119
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: just didn't see anything that makes me think that that

1120
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: would change.

1121
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: Okay, but I don't take away.

1122
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I don't know what the future holds.

1123
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: That's what you have to This is why the guys

1124
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: have to fight the fight four fight win streak, and

1125
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: then to do it as thoroughly as he did here

1126
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: where he took some big shots and he didn't lose

1127
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: bearing he kept on the game plan. The game plan

1128
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: overall worked tremendous. Shit, he beat the shit out a paddle.

1129
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: He just blood was smeared all over his face. So

1130
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: to me, has he earned a potential title opportunity? Yes,

1131
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: and whoever has the belt has an obligation to defend it,

1132
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: whether or not you think those individual contenders have a

1133
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: shot or not, So it doesn't really matter. Actually if

1134
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: we think he can win, No, I don't think he

1135
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: can beat Tom aspinall. But you keep putting performances like

1136
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: that together and you look as again another I'm not

1137
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna pare him to Rober Whittaker, but a guy who's

1138
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: really put together a game that works for him. In

1139
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: this context, you are entitled to the riches that come

1140
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: with that kind of achievement.

1141
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: So could he have a legendary Polish power Yon Blohovich

1142
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: type type run now doing the late thirties thing is

1143
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: not as surprising at heavyweight where you can do that.

1144
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: But could he go on this run where he essentially

1145
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: raises his game to the next level. Maybe he's in

1146
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: the midst of that run now with this four fight

1147
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: win streak where every fight you're seeing him a different

1148
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: fighter than he was before in earlier versions, because he's

1149
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: come up for air a couple of times where you

1150
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: thought he was ready, he thought he was legitimately ready

1151
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: to make the move. The Espanol one was humbling because

1152
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: it was like, damn, it was so quick.

1153
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: And remember he gave Blades I think a little of

1154
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: some fits Rack guys was able to get the takedown

1155
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: and whatnot, but he'd been never broken and so really

1156
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: gave it Blades some problems. So it's hard for me

1157
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: to look past those, even though that obviously the Blades

1158
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: one was very close in that sense, I just feel

1159
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: like the wrong question to ask is, oh, is he

1160
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the new guy in this weight class? That's not the

1161
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: right question. I think a better way to look at

1162
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: it is is we are finally getting heavyweights who are

1163
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: developing mature skill sets, and in particular tall ones who

1164
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: are showing how to compete tall and then doing that

1165
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: against day injurious ass punchers along the way. That is

1166
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: a remarkable thing, I'm telling you. In MMA, maybe Sammy

1167
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Shilt you could say was doing it back in the day,

1168
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: but absent Sammy Shilt tall guys, Dude, I remember watching

1169
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Tim Sylvia's fight against Dan McGee. Anybody show hands, anybody

1170
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: remember Dan McGee.

1171
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: These guys don't care about at all.

1172
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: Right, this is my point. We have come so far

1173
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: from that, almost on its own. I find that more

1174
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: remarkable and frankly a little bit more charming.

1175
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you that, all right. You were probably

1176
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: charming in your day. I didn't know you in your prime.

1177
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: You know, I've only seen this after my I've had

1178
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: a few walk to spin on that thing. Hey, Luke,

1179
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: let's take us into topic number four top of the hour.

1180
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: Mike Perry will be checking in with us, but deeper

1181
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: on this UFC Saudi Arabia debut card. We go to

1182
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: the light Heavyweight division Johnny Walker. Wow, when it goes

1183
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: great for Johnny, it does when it goes bad, He's

1184
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 2: looking at the stars, flatlined on the ground after volcom Ozdemir,

1185
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 2: former title challenger, wore him out. That's a second brutal

1186
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: kl loss in a row. Luke the evolution of Johnny

1187
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: Walker at SBG in Ireland, John Cavanaugh has seen I'll

1188
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: move toward the ground game. Seen some things we like,

1189
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 2: seeing some things we haven't liked. But that's too straight

1190
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: brutality in a row at a key point in his career.

1191
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: What the heck overall has been the lack of connection

1192
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: here of him not getting you know, essentially evolving to

1193
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: that true title contender level. He keeps hitting the walls

1194
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: whenever he gets do.

1195
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: They have turned Johnny Walker into a defensive fighter with

1196
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: bad defense.

1197
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: So you're saying, let him cook. Let that weirdo cook

1198
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.

1199
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: Well, it's one of those things. It's like with John Jones, right,

1200
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: like Greg Jackson actually used to get. People won't remember this.

1201
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: So Greg Jackson used to get a little bit of shit.

1202
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: And it's not your fault if you're you know, born

1203
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven. Luke likes to say that.

1204
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: For all people. You know, I mean, I like your

1205
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: material when it's fresh. Well, you know you he reheated

1206
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: pizza rolls from the freezer, although those those were good

1207
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: back in the day too. But the one I want

1208
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: to make is BC. I remember when Greg Jackson got

1209
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of shit because John Jones was throwing

1210
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Stephan Bonner this direction and then spinning back elbowing this direction,

1211
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: and he was telling people, I've learned how to fight

1212
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: off of YouTube. That's a real thing that used to happen,

1213
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: and it was dynamic and it was crazy. Greg Jackson

1214
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: took a look at that and said, Okay, that's cool

1215
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: that he can do that, but we have to give

1216
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: him a more fundamental skill set. The difference is John

1217
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: won a fucking title doing that and then basically went

1218
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: undefeated doing that. Right, It may have made him a

1219
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: little bit less dynamic and a little bit less flashy,

1220
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: but it cemented him as at worst, the best light

1221
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: heavyweight of all time and maybe the best fighter of

1222
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: all time. What the fuck can you say about what

1223
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: they've done to Johnny Walker? He go back and watch

1224
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: the fight against I watched it, Uncle, I fight again

1225
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: because I was like, how did that one go? And

1226
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 1: then I rewatched this one against Uzdamir. Dude, he gets

1227
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: backed up off guys who get close to him, off

1228
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: strong boxing, he leans all the way back, he move

1229
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: into power. He doesn't have, dude, a guy that long,

1230
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: How does he not have the best jab in the business.

1231
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: We didn't put on the rundown, but I want to

1232
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: say something about d Rod. Look at the jab he

1233
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: had against Gaslom. Wasn't enough to win the contest, but

1234
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: it kept him in it. It kept him competitive, and

1235
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: you can see the value in the jeb. How does

1236
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: he not have that? They've made a They turned a

1237
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: guy who was this explosive person and people say, go

1238
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: back to that. I don't know if that's the right

1239
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: answer either, but I can foresure say making him defensive

1240
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: as a sort of posture and then not giving him

1241
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: good defense with that style. This is the result. This

1242
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: is what you get. You get backed up by guys

1243
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: who want to be in boxing range close range. They

1244
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: trick you to what they want you to do. They

1245
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: move you into the power or whatever gets you back

1246
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: it up straight and then it's curtains for you.

1247
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: Did I've said it three or four fights ago, and

1248
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going to learn the things that

1249
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: he's missing. It's too far gone. He's not going to

1250
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: learn the natural defensive reactions. And sort of like I

1251
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: like the idea at first of trying to utilize his

1252
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: size and aggressiveness and add some ground game to him,

1253
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: and for a while it looked like it was working.

1254
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: But I've always come to the same conclusion when I

1255
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: watch him reach up and step up to another level.

1256
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Now this is two straight fights where he tried that

1257
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: and got flatlined. Is look, at the end of the day,

1258
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: he is who he is, Luke, and his spots mean

1259
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: that he's crazy. He likes to throw down. If he's

1260
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: not being as dangerous and risky and and you know,

1261
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: irrational as possible, then it becomes he becomes a little predictable.

1262
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: And then the deficiencies defensively in head movement I think

1263
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: jump out even more. I don't think he's somebody who

1264
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: can execute this this change, you know, and it be

1265
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: expected to go out there and throw a no hitter

1266
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: and not be and not put himself into in a

1267
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: spot where he's going to make a big air and

1268
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: leave himself open so you might as well let him

1269
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: go out there and be as dangerous as he can impossible. Now,

1270
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about dancing to the cage and getting

1271
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: you know, BC to say get off my lawn and

1272
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: and you know you got to grind everybody at the

1273
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: at the Harley Davidson prep point. I mean, maybe he's

1274
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: just trying to set up for later, build some material,

1275
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: so to speak. But Luke, this is at a point

1276
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: in his career now where you can become a punching

1277
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: back pretty quickly. And these big explosive fights and credits

1278
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: of Vulcan for never going away right, Things had not

1279
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: gone well for him after he destroyed that patron and

1280
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 2: a fort Lauer Dell bar and eventually got.

1281
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: A title loss. So don't forget year he put his

1282
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 1: lights out.

1283
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Speaker 2: Yes, uh and but this was a sort of interesting

1284
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: comeback win in the idea of like, okay, this guy's

1285
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: still one punch away from from maybe making it.

1286
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: It was a great performance from Usdamir. He did exactly

1287
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: what he wanted to exactly what it was No time,

1288
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: No time walked him backwards, put him into the left

1289
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: The left hook landed like five times before he put

1290
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: him away and that that last one and then rocked

1291
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: him over and by the way, so let's go through it.

1292
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: The Jamal Hill loss, the unclia of loss, the I think.

1293
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: Corey Anders and when he was going to get John

1294
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: Jones after.

1295
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, and then this loss here against uh Uzdamir.

1296
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: Those are not just four knockout losses. Those are from

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: four brutal, fucking knockout losses. And you add that to

1298
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: whatever he's done to himself in sparring or everything else,

1299
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't even I don't even know what

1300
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: to say it again, maybe it's there. They're trying to

1301
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: show him different things at SBG and he's just not

1302
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: taken to it. So maybe that's the case. All I

1303
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: can say is who he's become since being there. I

1304
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: don't think has materially improved him in any noticeable way.

1305
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.

1306
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: You gotta let him be him, and you're gonna get

1307
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: mixed results from that. It's going to be feast or

1308
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: famine Luke, but that's sort of who he is, right,

1309
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: you can't change that.

1310
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: Also, Uzdimir I didn't think he was ever going to

1311
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: get a title shot after losing to Cormier. I thought, oh, that's,

1312
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, interesting guy, but came and went he's not

1313
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: too far from one, not too far. He's unk alive,

1314
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: is ahead obviously, so he's still.

1315
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: Thny Smith by elimination, just by everybody else getting sick.

1316
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: It's like one went away from another time.

1317
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Just keep showing up. But again, we'll see what happens

1318
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: with him about UFC three oh three. But for the

1319
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 1: case of Uzdemir, I had kind of forgotten about him

1320
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: as a potential title contender. He has reinvigorated that with

1321
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: the Guskov win and now this one back to back,

1322
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: both stoppages I think inside the first round granted against

1323
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: compromised opponents or otherwise not on the level, but great win.

1324
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him against Jamal Hill next, but

1325
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: maybe Jamal promised something that fucking a lot more.

1326
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: Or how about this, well, can use Deri versus Carlos Olberg.

1327
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Sure that's a fun fight. Sure that's a fun fight.

1328
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: Let's do that.

1329
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, before we move on to I know we got

1330
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Mike Perry coming up here really quickly, can we talk

1331
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: about Calvin Gastolin. So I went through and I made

1332
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: a list of this you would to talk about his weight.

1333
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: Ana, not happy, Dana and not happy, Okay.

1334
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Gastolum missed weight all the way back against Nico Muskogi

1335
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: he lost. He missed weight by three quarters of a pound.

1336
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: He missed weight against Tyron Woodley by ten fucking well ten.

1337
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: They still let that fight on.

1338
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: They left. He loses that one by split decision. That's

1339
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: the only one he's lost. Gastlm ten pounds. Gastlum didn't

1340
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: even attempt to make weight against Donalds Serroni at UFC

1341
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: two of five. Remember that was way in day. He

1342
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: didn't even do it, Yes, and that fight got scrapped

1343
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: from the cards. That's three times he was fined for

1344
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: how he weighed in against Darren Till at UFC two

1345
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: forty four. Remember he got fined by the New York

1346
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: State Athletic Commission because they claimed he may have been

1347
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: leaning on Hafel Kodero on the.

1348
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: Sky just hold the towel.

1349
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: DC shows the towel was in front. But he came

1350
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: in at one eight four when he thought it was

1351
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: gonna be one eighty six, and they find him for that.

1352
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: Again that that's not proof that it was more like

1353
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: you may have been doing it, but okay, didn't look

1354
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: good and then missedweight basically this time by fifteen pounds. Well,

1355
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: he supposed to be walt weight fight against DEANL. Rodriguez.

1356
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: What do you want to say? We never got it?

1357
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: So you've got m Musoki, Woodley, Serony Till and Rodriguez

1358
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: five times. This has happened five times. BC. Add up

1359
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: all the advantages that have been conferred upon him for

1360
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: doing this and how much problems it has created for

1361
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: his opponents? How is that not worse in aggregate than

1362
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: biting someone and.

1363
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: Average Joe out rolled out some sweet new merchan.

1364
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: Again, there's no curse because the hold on the guy

1365
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: bit another guy. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been

1366
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: written off the island. Fine, you bite a guy, You're

1367
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: fucking out of here? How is that worse? In all

1368
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: of the aggregated trouble that gasoline has caused his opponents.

1369
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: I can't defend him anymore. And the best thing he

1370
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: did was win, obviously, because at least there's some sort

1371
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: of like when when Chimaya have missed weight by thirty

1372
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: eight pounds to fight an ideas they gave him Holland.

1373
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: Well at least he whipped up on Holland. So they're like, okay, well,

1374
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: we can't get too mad, but this is going to

1375
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 2: hurt leverage business wise for Gastling day And when DAYA

1376
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: is not happy, when you're trying to be that aging,

1377
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: offensive guy with a name, we can plug you into

1378
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: key situations. He essentially just closed the door. And well,

1379
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: it's the way it felt like, right.

1380
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: Also, the thing is this right? Yes, I mean he didn't. Also,

1381
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: he did not look bad. I thought he looked, for

1382
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: the most part pretty good.

1383
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: But when you're talking about not having if he knew

1384
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: far out that this was how it's going to go

1385
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: and then he just doesn't make that hard cut, what

1386
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: does he get back in terms of that ability in

1387
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: round three to be able to hang.

1388
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: In there and move Well, what I'm saying is I

1389
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: think he'll retain his employment for as long as it

1390
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: lasts that this contract or whatever. Sure, But what I

1391
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: wanted to say was he looked good against Daniel Rodriguez.

1392
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here and say he looked poor. He

1393
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: did not.

1394
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: No boxing was crisp.

1395
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: He looked fine. But my point is this, he just

1396
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: got smoked by Sean Brady at one seventy. This was

1397
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: supposed to be back at one seventy one eighty five.

1398
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: Do you see him realistically winning a title in either

1399
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: of these weight classes. I do not. He's not beating

1400
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker. I know they fought already in Whittaker one,

1401
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: but it's not happening. He's not. He couldn't beat Sean Brady.

1402
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: He sure has fucking beaten shof got Rockmanov. Remember they

1403
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: were supposed to fight. Do rock Monov would have done

1404
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: unspeakable horror?

1405
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got lucky that he got out of that fight.

1406
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: So this is my point. It's like he looked like

1407
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: somebody who could be valuable for the UFC if he

1408
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: could be relied upon to fill in here take this

1409
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: kind of fight, you know, stay active when some lose

1410
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: some but you're a good fighter. But if they can't

1411
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: even count on you to make weight properly and you've

1412
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: missed it, or I had, or I should say had

1413
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: five different instances and he got tapped.

1414
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: By after market Widman. Let's not forget that.

1415
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: No, I thought he beat Wideman.

1416
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: Did I invert that?

1417
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: I forget I have to go back no, what.

1418
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: That's the only one he beat, the only when Wideman

1419
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: had in a stretch of like otherwise.

1420
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Wideman submitted gas and you see Long Island. Oh Jesus, I.

1421
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: Bet your Long Island. Luke Nosita was there.

1422
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: I bet you was gambling. Yeah, Tawson, I was there

1423
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: with Luke.

1424
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1425
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: You guys are hardcore motherfuckers. Man.

1426
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, Geff, are you a member of the Mile

1427
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: High podcast? Where is it called the main Card minute?

1428
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm a regular guest and co host. I am the

1429
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: BC of the main clas Yes, all right, yes, there

1430
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: you go, so out of this going on all so,

1431
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: just just wrap up on this.

1432
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: He's a fine fighter who can do some things in

1433
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: the sport. But if you miss weight or have a

1434
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: I should say, have some kind of way in issue

1435
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: five different times through the course of your career. You

1436
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: are lucky to be holding onto your job. You are

1437
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: lucky that that is happening for you.

1438
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: I would agree with you on that regard. Luke and

1439
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: I and like you know, I've defended him for a

1440
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: long time. It's past that point. I don't know what's

1441
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: left for him Luke, side of doing the company a

1442
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: solid and probably fighting a hammer coming up right?

1443
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, all right, what's the story with Mike.

1444
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: Perry running a little bit late, but he will be

1445
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: here shortly.

1446
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you want to do topic five? You

1447
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: want get to it. Let's get into all right, topic

1448
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: number five? If we can here be seeing let me

1449
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: close my notes here.

1450
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: All right, it's what's going down this weekend?

1451
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: Luke to you what UFC three oh three? This weekend?

1452
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: There is Ocono mcgregord, but there is pooton BC. All

1453
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: eyes are on Alex Padata as well they should be BC.

1454
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: I almost don't even know what to ask you about

1455
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: this guy. We've kind of talked about how interesting this

1456
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: card is now that he's replaced it. But given everything

1457
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: that Connor said on Friday and how much of a

1458
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: contrast there is, how important to the UFC is Alex

1459
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: Padeda in twenty twenty four? And the question I would

1460
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: ask it the opposite of that is, I'm not saying

1461
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: he's the biggest star, He's not. Is he the most

1462
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: important a list guy they have?

1463
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to say the truth. The answer is yes,

1464
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: just on recent history, which was bailing out UFC three hundred,

1465
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: which for all our money, if we ever get the

1466
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: inside on another Roku special that may have been the

1467
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: card that was supposed to be Chandler versus McGregor for

1468
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: all we know originally and then maybe the road stuff

1469
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: pushed it off. It might explain why UFC seemed to

1470
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: bank the final elements of that card extreme last minute.

1471
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: But who was there?

1472
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: It was Poeton, broken toe and all got the job done,

1473
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: defends the title in that second way class again. Well

1474
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: now he's coming back with an additional broken toe. Two

1475
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: months and Luke I talked to him in an interview.

1476
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to be able to get finalized and get

1477
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: out there this week on our morning Combat channel. But

1478
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: a big part of what he said was, you know,

1479
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: the window was short. I know where I'm at in

1480
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: my age. I know the opportunity that I do have.

1481
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: He said he was lucky that he was healthy each opportunity.

1482
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: So he said when he looks at Yeah, he's like,

1483
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: I can't lie to you. I'm getting paid, well, I'm

1484
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: getting paid very well to come in here and save

1485
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: this last minute. But he also thinks, based on the matchup,

1486
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: it's a fight that he can win. He feels great

1487
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: and I think it's his idea of he said to

1488
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: himself when he joined the UFC, it wasn't a thought

1489
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: process of like, you know, can I make these quick

1490
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: moves and then end up backdoring myself into the goat conversation?

1491
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: But think about where he's actually at now. Look, he's

1492
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: got to be for Hotsko, which this fight can go anywhere.

1493
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an absolute dangerous shootout, and that's what

1494
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 2: we want out of it. But look, if he wins this,

1495
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: and we've already thrown out the ideas of him going

1496
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: to fight John Jones for a third title at heavyweight,

1497
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: and I brought that up to him and he said, Look,

1498
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm the one who came out on TV and told

1499
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: the UFC I want this heavyweight fight. They wouldn't give

1500
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: it to me yet. But he's like, I'm ready to

1501
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: do that now because I know how good I can be.

1502
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: I know the window that I have. Yes, he's been

1503
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: huge for them. I think he's got money in the

1504
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: bank to ask for what he wants, Luke, do you

1505
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, things have to fall his way beyond

1506
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 2: just beating for Hotska. To even get the John Jones fight,

1507
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: Jones has to defeat Stepe and then somehow they'd have

1508
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: to f overask but all worse than ever before and

1509
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: be like, sorry, Tom, not only are you never gonna

1510
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: fight John, but you got to wait an additional fight

1511
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: and keep defending that interim title because if we get

1512
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: a chance to do Jones Poeton, you gotta do it

1513
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: in a football stadium like you gotta do it. Look,

1514
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: he literally could go into that fight being the guy

1515
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: who would have the chance for the first time to

1516
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: be a three division champion. But if he beat Jones

1517
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: to do it, you could literally bill it as the

1518
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: go against the guy who could take it. Would you

1519
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: have ever ever ever guessed? Because it's what ten fight

1520
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: career he's had. We can play up and brag about

1521
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: what he's accomplished, but think about it, it's not just

1522
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: what Poton has already accomplished in the short window. It's

1523
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: the chess playing that he's putting himself in position. I

1524
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: don't know if he even gets that opportunity, But what

1525
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: if I told you that nine months from now he's

1526
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: in allegiate stadium in Vegas against John Jones and has

1527
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: a chance to finish that fight as the greatest fighter

1528
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: of all time? You need happenstance to go your way

1529
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: for that even to have a shot, you also need

1530
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: to be unique and next level and special, and not

1531
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: only the villain at the end of the movie, you

1532
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: also need to be the hero. And Poton's got all

1533
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: those elements. I can't even believe he's that close to

1534
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: potentially entering that point. So what can I say about him? Yeah, Luke,

1535
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: we've never seen anyone author of the exact run that

1536
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: he's on, and the company couldn't need him any more

1537
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: than I do, and he couldn't have used that opportunity

1538
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: the same. I always talk about my last few years

1539
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: at ESPN four. I went to CBS. You ESPN used

1540
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: me because I'm on TV making no money and can

1541
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: barely pay my bills. But I use them, Luke, because

1542
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: I bank that experience. Poeton has used the UFC over

1543
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: the past three years to hopefully build the financial empire

1544
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: that that won't end for his family. But holy crap,

1545
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: he's on the verge of some insane shit. So yeah,

1546
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: he's arguably the most valuable star they have. And if

1547
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: he gets to this level, we're talking about if a

1548
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: Jones fight in a third division is even possible, or

1549
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 2: maybe it's Aspinall. Maybe he's got bigger balls than we think.

1550
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Aspenall that he does this against whoever. We

1551
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: got a shot here, he's got a shot at like

1552
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: extreme intergalactic royalty immortality in this sport. Yeah, he's the

1553
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: most valuable guy they got right now because he stands

1554
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: and he delivers.

1555
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: I may ask Galante style. He's Donald Serroni, except he

1556
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: can actually win the big ones. The difference that's the

1557
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: he He'll do everything that Sereni will do, except he

1558
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: basically win.

1559
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: He'll knock your favorite guy out.

1560
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: He'll knock He'll knock the fucking teeth out, Baun, and

1561
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: he'll steal your beer.

1562
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: He's very like Mike Perry, like, you know, come to

1563
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: the party, steal the beer, take the women and go

1564
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: home right knock you out if you get her, well,

1565
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: I think we do. Can we bring him in? Can

1566
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: we bring in bkfc's finest. Can we bring in the

1567
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: Combat Sports pay per view superstar and Morning Combat favorite?

1568
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: That is a platinum appearance. But Mike, we had to

1569
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: drop everything. Mike Perry can't wait to talk to you

1570
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: because Red Panty night, Mike, get it. Fired up in

1571
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: the Perry household July twentieth, The Zone pay per view,

1572
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: not the bare knuckle ring, the boxing ring, Jake Paul Like,

1573
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: this is the super Bowl, this is the ultimate lottery

1574
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: ticket and oh my god, you have a chance to

1575
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: do this shit. You're a chance to knock out the

1576
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: guy that everybody hates. Mike Perry, how you living, bro?

1577
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 5: I love the introduction. I'm doing very well. I appreciate

1578
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: it. It's the platinum panny night. I am the running flight.

1579
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: I've been saying this.

1580
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 5: Uh My wife's got a drawer full of them platinum panties,

1581
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 5: if you will, and.

1582
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: We we uh we wear them every weekend.

1583
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: All right, Mike, I talked to you.

1584
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 2: Can you can follow up if you want on the panties.

1585
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let that, but I respect it. I respect it, Mike.

1586
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: I talked to Jake briefly. He told me there was

1587
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: no rematch clause for this. What I'm a little surprised

1588
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: by that, are you?

1589
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 3: Well?

1590
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 5: You know, when I beat him, we can ask for

1591
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 5: a rematch if he wants it. And uh, I don't

1592
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 5: know if he will. I don't know where he goes

1593
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 5: after this. I could care less you know, I might

1594
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 5: just go on a little vacation after this. That's what

1595
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: I might do. I've been fighting, been winning, and uh my,

1596
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 5: go spend some of this money with my family. But

1597
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's quite enough yet. I might

1598
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 5: have more work to do before the year ends. I

1599
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 5: won't have that multimillion dollar mansion on the bay with

1600
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 5: my yacht doc in the back. I need something to

1601
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 5: compete with the Lamborghini yacht that McGregor's whipping around.

1602
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 3: Shout out to McGregory. I was just talking about him.

1603
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 5: He liked a couple of my reels this morning, and

1604
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 5: Instagram wanted to make sure that I knew every time

1605
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 5: it reloaded.

1606
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor liked two year reels, so I appreciate that.

1607
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 5: And everybody's watching. King Ryan tried to troll me a

1608
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 5: little bit. I think had a funny moment in my

1609
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: mint video with my boxing coach.

1610
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,440
Speaker 3: He asked real quick for a quick slip and left.

1611
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 5: And my left mint a little bit, and I think

1612
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 5: Ryan was trolling me a little bit on that miss

1613
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 5: left hook.

1614
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 3: But if it works, don't fix it, all.

1615
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: Right, Mike, Let's talk about boxing here a little bit,

1616
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: all right, and specifically the what you see if you

1617
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: do any tape study on Jake Paul. Imagine I'd never

1618
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: seen him box before. What would you tell me about

1619
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: what he's good at and what he's bad at as

1620
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: it relates to boxing.

1621
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 3: But work, he's good.

1622
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 5: He'll move, he'll run, he'll back up, he'll he'll go

1623
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 5: side to side, whatever. And I'm interested because in the

1624
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 5: last two boxing matches he had, he did put pressure

1625
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 5: on those guys and came forward, but those guys didn't.

1626
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if they had anything in their back.

1627
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 5: Pocket for him, and I will, and you know, to

1628
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 5: the mission I've been on since leaving the UFC has

1629
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 5: been given the fans the fights they want to see.

1630
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 5: Owing it to myself that you know, no matter what

1631
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 5: happens in there, as long as I come forward and

1632
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 5: I go balls to the wall and I bring it,

1633
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 5: you know, I can be happy with that. As long

1634
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 5: as as I bring it. I brought it and tried

1635
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 5: to attempt to beat this guy. Every second that I

1636
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 5: have the opportunity to fight is one in the gym,

1637
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 5: you know. So I've been getting my training and just

1638
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 5: enjoying my life and you know, making workouts out of it.

1639
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 5: I had the family on the pontoon yesterday while I

1640
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 5: was on the kayak, and you know, my babies, they

1641
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 5: were all cheering me on while I was paddling down.

1642
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 3: The ocean and.

1643
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 5: Jakes boxing, you know, I said, footwork, He's he's gonna

1644
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: push with the jab. He's gonna look to set up

1645
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 5: that big right hook and and or upper cut.

1646
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm gonna try not to get hit

1647
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: by it.

1648
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 5: But if he does hit me with it, I will

1649
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: enjoy it thoroughly and ask for another. And you know

1650
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit him back. I'm gonna hit him and

1651
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 5: he's not gonna like it. I'm gonna chase him the rank.

1652
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 5: I'll make him tired and keep that pressure on them.

1653
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 5: You know, it's to me in training, it's not about

1654
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 5: what they do.

1655
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 3: I don't watch tape. I really don't. Maybe some of

1656
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: my people do.

1657
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 5: If I watched anything, it would be the highlights of

1658
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 5: the Tommy Fury VERSU Jake Paul fight where Tommy Fury

1659
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 5: beat him and it was a close fight, but Tommy

1660
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 5: Fury beat him and it seemed a little amateurish that

1661
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 5: fight there. And you know Tommy's Tommy's defense wasn't great.

1662
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 5: He got hit a couple of times, but he took

1663
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 5: them shots well. I believe I will take them even

1664
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 5: better and uh and land better shots back. Tommy boxed him,

1665
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 5: he backed up and moved and you know, we'll see

1666
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 5: depending on my speed and my footwork and that night.

1667
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 5: But I'm looking to come forward, cut angles, get to

1668
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 5: the side and then punch him straight down the pipe.

1669
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 3: It's about what I do, not what he does.

1670
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, if I may, Mike, I wonder what

1671
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: you make of this, Like, I feel like one huge

1672
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: difference between you guys, and I'm glad you brought the

1673
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury fight up, which is, if you watch that

1674
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury fight, he gets hit a little bit Jake does,

1675
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: and then kind of gets rattled, right, He doesn't keep

1676
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: the same game, and he kind of like, you know,

1677
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: he takes bigger risks and he's lunging further, and he's

1678
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: looking down more and whatnot. Whereas with you, there's been

1679
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: times where you get hit and there's no difference in

1680
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: your demeanor, there's no difference in how you look at

1681
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: the fight. Do you notice that as well from him?

1682
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 5: Maybe I know I did it to him when we

1683
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: sparred that, you know, as I started making him land

1684
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 5: into some shots when he tried to dodge him, you know,

1685
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 5: and he just gets back on his bike and moves

1686
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna have to cut him off with better pressure.

1687
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 5: And all I've been doing is pressure and folks and

1688
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 5: and bring in the fights and and.

1689
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: I'll be there, you know, to.

1690
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 5: You know, if he if he swings, I'll try to

1691
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 5: make him miss and try to make him pay, or

1692
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 5: you know.

1693
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: I'll roll with the blunt of the blow.

1694
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 5: And and uh, just keep coming at him. I expect

1695
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 5: him to be on his bike and his and you know,

1696
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 5: once I put that pressure on and I keep it

1697
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 5: and I stay in his face. If I can keep

1698
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 5: the gap closed, you know, I gotta he's gonna grab me.

1699
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 5: Boxing is is a little different from BKFC as to

1700
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 5: where we can work more in the clinch. Don't know

1701
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 5: how much they're going to allow work in the clinch.

1702
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 5: You know, Ryan Garcia fought Hani, they got some work

1703
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 5: off in the clinch. When he fought Geravante, he tried

1704
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 5: to punch him when they were in arms reach and

1705
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, MVP, when I fought m v P.

1706
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 5: He grabbed on really well, which was something that I

1707
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 5: didn't anticipate. He held on to me tight and and

1708
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 5: tried to, you know, slow me down that way. And

1709
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 5: he also did something every time we the ref would

1710
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 5: come in to separate us, he kept shoving me, and

1711
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 5: I was getting pissed, so then I started shoving him back,

1712
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 5: and then the ref's like fighting us in the middle,

1713
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 5: trying to separate us.

1714
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: Then we're both just pushing into the referee. So you know,

1715
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 3: if you know.

1716
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 5: Jake's already said some things, I hope, I don't know.

1717
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,560
Speaker 5: I hope I'm super angry that night. I love to

1718
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 5: fight off passion and anger and and I have plenty

1719
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 5: in the gas tank to just let it all out.

1720
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, can you come clean for us on what

1721
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: may or may not have happened. We love a juicy backstory.

1722
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 2: I know you guys don't love talking about what happens

1723
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: in a sparring session because of sort of what goes

1724
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: into sparring. But people are trying to clown you by

1725
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: showing videos of you congratulating Jake and and essentially telling

1726
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: him that you know, he got the better of you.

1727
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: What should we make of that. What year was the sparring?

1728
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: What can you tell us about it?

1729
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 3: It was three years ago. I think.

1730
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 5: It was a week before I thought Daniel Rodriguez. I

1731
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 5: was about one hundred and seventy nine pounds. Jake was

1732
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 5: maybe one ninety five, I don't know, and and he

1733
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 5: hit me with a couple of sniper shots in the

1734
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 5: like in the second and maybe the third, but I

1735
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 5: took those quite well. His team was all there cheering.

1736
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 5: I had my son, who was maybe a few months

1737
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 5: old at the time, and his little Duna, My wife

1738
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 5: was there. That's who I went to the gym. Jake

1739
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: had all his people there, some security or whatever, and

1740
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 5: they were cheering for him a little bit. But then

1741
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 5: those cheers kind of died down after he hit me

1742
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 5: with a couple of those sniper shots. And I kept

1743
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 5: putting the pressure on him, and I just get angrier

1744
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 5: and angrier if you hit me. And you know, anger

1745
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 5: is where I'm truly happy. You know, I really enjoy

1746
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:12,440
Speaker 5: being pissed off, and you know, I'm looking to be

1747
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 5: because I'm already excited about this fight, and this is

1748
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 5: an opportunity. I think it gets to be me who

1749
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 5: gets to do this to Jake and prove that you

1750
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 5: know these I'm kind of on mmas in MMA's side here,

1751
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 5: like I'm kind of fighting for the MMA guys that

1752
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 5: he has.

1753
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: There.

1754
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 5: There are two that I respect, he would and Anderson Silva.

1755
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 5: I respect those guys, but I just feel like I've

1756
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 5: brought something different as an MMA fighter in boxing. I

1757
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 5: feel like I've always been in been a boxer that

1758
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 5: had the most success in the MMA octagon. And you know,

1759
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 5: it's just a day at a time, and we're fine

1760
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 5: tuned in the d tails and I think I'm gonna

1761
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 5: be too much for this kid when it's time to

1762
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 5: step in the ring.

1763
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: God, I can't wait for this fight July twentieth, Zone

1764
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: pay per view. Well let me at Tampa, Florida. What

1765
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 2: about the BKFC factor. You've got the King of Violence

1766
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: Championship over your shoulder, some other memorabilia behind you. You're

1767
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: the face of a burgeon in combat sports pay per

1768
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: view promotion at the moment. Are you going into this

1769
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: fight in business with them? Are you allowed in your

1770
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,480
Speaker 2: contract to sort of step aside and take a big opportunity.

1771
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: How did that conversation work out?

1772
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 5: It was an interesting way that you worded that question there,

1773
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 5: Brian Campbell, and I gotta be careful with you.

1774
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: I know how you like to ask some funny shit.

1775
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I regret some of the things I've asked

1776
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: you in the past, but now I feel like we

1777
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: respect each other more.

1778
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1779
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no regards, brother, no regards. We live how we

1780
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: go and you know, sometimes you gotta let go and

1781
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: let God.

1782
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 5: And I really don't understand what that question was, but yes,

1783
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm in business with them.

1784
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: I they understand what they have here with me.

1785
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 5: I am promoting already this fight better than any one

1786
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 5: of Jake Paul's past opponents. I don't know if they

1787
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 5: were afraid or what's going on, but you know, I

1788
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 5: just just having fun with it. Post a little video here,

1789
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: talking little shit, letting Jake know that I'm coming for you,

1790
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 5: and you know, I'm putting the weight on myself as

1791
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 5: to where when it comes time to getting that ring,

1792
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 5: that that I do exactly that someone I talked to

1793
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 5: someone yesterday, Right, we'rend the boat Dop We're having a

1794
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 5: nice meal and getting ready to go work out on

1795
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 5: the on the water, and someone says he goes because

1796
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 5: you know how these people are.

1797
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: In the comments.

1798
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 5: He goes, you know what I want to see when

1799
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 5: the fight starts or whatever. I'm like, what do you

1800
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 5: want to see? And he's like, oh, I want to

1801
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 5: see you figure him out.

1802
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 3: Take your time. I said, what the fuck, I'm taking

1803
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 3: my time right right now. We got all this build up.

1804
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 5: By the time that referee says, go, you think I'm

1805
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 5: gonna wait a little bit more to see what he's got,

1806
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 5: it's a right and a left. I'm coming after him

1807
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 5: and I'm going to get him as soon as this

1808
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 5: fight starts. I'm not wasting no time. I got eight

1809
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 5: rounds to get the job done. Why would I sit

1810
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 5: back and wait?

1811
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, get after it? Question stylistically for you, because

1812
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: I think the biggest style question is the size difference.

1813
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: If we know you as a one seventy or an MMA,

1814
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: you've been boxing at one eighty five with BKFC, Jake

1815
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: has been lingering in that upper cruiserweight area close to

1816
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 2: two hundred. I know he's been trying to become a

1817
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: heavyweight for Mike Tyson, so he's gonna come down a

1818
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 2: little bit. You spart him though, is what is the

1819
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: physical difference in weight between you in terms of like

1820
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,799
Speaker 2: what you're up against. Is it the clinch that it matters?

1821
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: Is it? Is he a heavier puncher than the five

1822
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: ors you've been bare knuckling against. How do you sort

1823
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: of prepare for that? Well?

1824
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 3: Bare knuckle is an interesting type of hit.

1825
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 5: And you know, people think that my power won't carry over,

1826
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 5: but these are ten ounce gloves. I'm stopping people in

1827
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 5: the gym with sixteen ounces and headgear and ten ounce

1828
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 5: gloves no headgear. Jake's got a long ass chin and

1829
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 5: a crooked ass nose, and I mean with those little

1830
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 5: paper thin ten ounce gloves and a big old boxing

1831
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 5: wrap in between, so there's no space in between that

1832
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,759
Speaker 5: glove and my fist. It's just all casted and pressure.

1833
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 5: I'm hitting them with a brick. And don't worry, They'll

1834
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 5: be checked by the commission. Everything will be signed off on.

1835
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 5: It'll be fine.

1836
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 3: And uh, you know the.

1837
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 5: His I mean, I gotta watch out for his punches too.

1838
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 3: Uh you know, you can hit a little harder with the.

1839
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 5: Boxing glove rather than barre knuckle, But I don't know,

1840
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 5: because I've hit people just find barre knuckle knocked their

1841
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 5: teeth out. I've been thinking, you know, with the boxing glove,

1842
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 5: I'm hoping that I can knock some of those teeth

1843
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 5: loose on Jake in July twentieth on that pay per view.

1844
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 5: So make sure y'all check out his own pay per

1845
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 5: view on July twentieth.

1846
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I.

1847
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 5: Just kind of get lost in my head thinking about

1848
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 5: how I'm gonna punch on him, and that's really just

1849
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 5: I just keep circling back to that.

1850
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 3: So I kind of forgot where you asked me.

1851
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 2: I was just talking about the weight. You know that

1852
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: we can say it's a big weight difference, Is it

1853
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: an actual major difference for you?

1854
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 3: Actually? Right, I'm sorry about that. That's my fault.

1855
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not worried about the way that all. I'm

1856
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 5: up two hundred pounds right now. I think I might.

1857
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 5: I'm going to continue to grow a little bit.

1858
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 3: I feel it.

1859
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 5: Too when I'm sparring and training, I feel the weight.

1860
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,440
Speaker 5: I have tons of energy. I put it on correctly.

1861
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 5: I might even cut a little bit to get down

1862
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 5: to one ninety nine for this fight, So I'll be

1863
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 5: like two five or so and then cut down to

1864
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 5: one nine and.

1865
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: I put it on really well. I still got my

1866
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 3: abs and you could see it in.

1867
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 5: My shoulders and my upper back and my upper body.

1868
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 5: And I'm pushing people around and training. I take the

1869
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 5: hits like now, it's like not even a paper cut,

1870
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 5: Like it's like a piece of paper God.

1871
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: Thrown at me.

1872
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 5: And the way my body weighed just even with that

1873
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 5: with a couple of pounds. The way I'm pushing people around,

1874
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 5: They're getting tired of dealing with the pressure, and I'm

1875
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 5: just kind of walking around in the ring like I

1876
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 5: could do it all night long.

1877
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: So and I don't believe he was two thirty. Ever.

1878
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: We never saw anything where he got I don't know.

1879
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 5: I know he posts lots of videos that I don't see,

1880
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 5: YouTube here or whatever other media platforms that he does have.

1881
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 5: I just see what I see. But I never saw

1882
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 5: anything where he got on a scale. They were saying

1883
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 5: he was two thirty going up for the fights if

1884
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 5: he was on juice. If he was not on juice,

1885
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 5: I could care less. And uh, you know, I think

1886
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 5: he'll be maybe two twelve in the ring with me,

1887
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 5: and I'll be about one ninety six. And we see

1888
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 5: what I did to Luke. Luke had twenty pounds on me.

1889
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 5: I was one eighty nine in the ring with Luke.

1890
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 3: Luke was two h five. Uh so.

1891
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Uh Hey, Mike, it's a different question here.

1892
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: Like you talked about like enjoying to compete out of

1893
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: passion and maybe a little bit of anger as well,

1894
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering about something, which is if you keep

1895
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: on succeeding the way you've succeeded, and the money gets

1896
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: bigger and the accolades get bigger, and you really begin

1897
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: to build I mean you already have, but continue to

1898
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 1: build a life that you always kind of wanted for yourself.

1899
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: I've seen some fighters, and I'm not saying you're like

1900
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: this as well, but I guess I'm asking I've seen

1901
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: some fighters go down that path and they actually win

1902
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: so much that they don't have that kind of anger

1903
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: to compete anymore, and it makes them not compete the

1904
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: same way, or not compete at all. So I guess

1905
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: my question is do you worry about using that as

1906
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: fuel where if you keep winning, it actually undercuts the

1907
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: reason for the fuel being there to begin with.

1908
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 5: No, I'm pissed all the time, dude, for no reason.

1909
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 5: I'm just so pissed off all the time. And and I,

1910
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 5: you know, it's a it's a constant battle men's mental

1911
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 5: health awareness. I know Sean Strickland talks about it, and

1912
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 5: you know that's he's spars all the time. And I

1913
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 5: do too, but maybe not as much as Sean. But

1914
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 5: you know, I like to take breaks. I like to

1915
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 5: try to go back and be a human being, a father,

1916
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:07,959
Speaker 5: a husband.

1917
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I try to have fun with it, make jokes about it,

1919
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 5: laugh at myself sometimes. And you know, having everything, everything

1920
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 5: has changed. Because I do have everything. I am very comfortable,

1921
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 5: but I like to get down and dirty, to the

1922
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 5: nitty gritty. I like to get, you know, back to

1923
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 5: my roots. And I never forgot where I came from.

1924
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 5: And you know, that's kind of the thing I've been

1925
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 5: thinking about a lot. It's like when I was on

1926
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 5: the MMA Hour and I told Jake, you know, you're

1927
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 5: gonna be terrified, and and you know, he kind of

1928
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 5: backstepped on his own words because he said.

1929
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Speaker 3: He told Ariel, he was like, you know, there's.

1930
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Speaker 5: Always this feeling on fight night when you know, and

1931
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 5: he was talking about nerves and being nervous and and

1932
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,879
Speaker 5: then and when I said you're going to be terrified.

1933
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 5: On July twenty, he said, what is there to be

1934
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 5: afraid of? Well, you tell me why you're always afraid

1935
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 5: when you're about to step.

1936
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: In that ring, you know you are. And me it

1937
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 3: changed from being afraid to.

1938
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 5: Just receiving all this greatness and energy and everything. And

1939
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 5: like my last fight, man, I was so pissed off

1940
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 5: before I even like that morning, and when I went downstairs,

1941
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 5: I got ready, I went downstairs and went to grab

1942
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 5: a bite to eat.

1943
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 3: I sat down with my wife, and I noticed all

1944
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,520
Speaker 3: these people, all these people.

1945
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 5: In this hotel lobby, and everyone was leaving me alone.

1946
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 5: And I knew that they all knew that I was

1947
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 5: the main event tonight, but they were leaving me alone,

1948
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 5: and it just made.

1949
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 3: Me like grateful.

1950
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 5: I was happy that everyone came out to support the

1951
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 5: event and support me and my goals and my journey

1952
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 5: is being this fighter. And I knew what I was

1953
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 5: up against as far as you know, getting punched in

1954
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 5: my face bare knuckle, I might get split open.

1955
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 3: I caught a little cut. I didn't even feel it.

1956
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 5: You know, the adrenaline that in that ring is such

1957
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 5: an incredible honor to get to.

1958
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 3: To get to.

1959
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 5: Feel that, to get to feel that, you know, and

1960
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 5: and I earned that every day in training and throughout

1961
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 5: my camps. And that's why I've earned this fight. And

1962
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 5: I get to be the guy that puts this kid

1963
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 5: in his place and shows.

1964
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 3: Him that he's very green and not as you.

1965
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 5: Know a lot of these guys, even the ones that

1966
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 5: had experienced. This was the topic of conversation yesterday and

1967
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 5: our training was practice doesn't make perfect perfect, practice makes perfect.

1968
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:01,799
Speaker 5: And that's been a goal of mine since leaving the UFC,

1969
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 5: you know, is that I make sure I do all

1970
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 5: my boxing. Everything has to be correct technically and physically

1971
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 5: and mentally and all that other stuff I just kicked

1972
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 5: to the side, and I stay focused tunnel vision on

1973
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 5: what it is I'm wanting to do.

1974
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: I will say this, though, Mike, if you end up

1975
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: beating Jake Paul, I can't think of a single victory

1976
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: or walk win. I can't think of a single victory

1977
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: that anybody could have in the sport that would get

1978
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: boxing fans and MMA fans to love a person as

1979
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: much as they might if you end up beating Jake Paul,

1980
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: have you thought about that? Like people want to see

1981
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: him lose so badly, which is obviously part of the appeal.

1982
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: If you actually pull it off, dude, it could be

1983
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: like transformational for your career, could it not.

1984
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: I feel like Andy Ruiz.

1985
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Hopefully you feel like Andy Ruiz before the Joshua fight,

1986
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: not after the first one when he ate all that,

1987
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: all the sushi off the ul felt bad because you know,

1988
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 2: you know it kind of you know.

1989
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, he got big for the second one.

1990
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got it. But if I had sushi and

1991
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: nude women as an option, you know, as a young champion.

1992
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: But I'm serious, Mike, I'm serious, Like this is a

1993
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why the no rematch clause blows my

1994
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: mind because like if you if you do them up,

1995
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: holy shit, man, the world's going to be your oyster.

1996
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:26,879
Speaker 1: You might be fighting.

1997
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: McGregor in some organization if you've been this. I mean,

1998
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: it's like nothing is off crazy, nothing is off limits, Mike.

1999
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 5: Anything is possible, Anything is possible, brother, Yes, absolutely.

2000
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have lots of ideas.

2001
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 5: I'm focused on on this one, but like you know, yes,

2002
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 5: the sky's the limit. But you know, I also think

2003
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 5: that the fans, the new fans that I'm seeing or

2004
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:58,879
Speaker 5: getting you know, I try to focus on the support

2005
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 5: and all the people who are already know that I'm

2006
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 5: in this to win this and they you know that

2007
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 5: they got my back and they're with me, and and

2008
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 5: then there's other types of.

2009
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 3: Comments, but.

2010
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 5: You know, it's a win win and a lose lose

2011
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 5: either way for either of us. A lot of my

2012
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 5: fans know what I bring to the table, but they still,

2013
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 5: you know, it can be if he was still not sure.

2014
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 5: I mean, we didn't expect him to do what he

2015
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 5: did to Tyron Woodley. And I'm remembering that during my training.

2016
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 3: You know that I can't that can't. You know, I

2017
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 3: won't allow.

2018
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 5: Myself to do anything other than, you know, bring some

2019
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 5: pain to him.

2020
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 3: He gotta feel it.

2021
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 5: And I got an entire life's worth of pain to

2022
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 5: bring to him and and show this kid man. Just

2023
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 5: I'm getting kind of heated right now, but yeah, thank you.

2024
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Man, I'm I love that talking about

2025
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 5: him is annoying me and it's getting me hyped up.

2026
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 5: And you know, it's gonna be a long night that

2027
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 5: night because we're the main event. People are gonna have

2028
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 5: to wait for it. Who knows how long my walkout's

2029
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 5: gonna be. His walkout's gonna be. I'm trying to set

2030
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 5: those things up to and put on a show for

2031
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 5: the fans, and but most importantly, the fight is the

2032
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 5: the event for me to make sure everything is perfect,

2033
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 5: or as it can be close to perfect. When I'm

2034
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 5: in the ring and they're about to say, you know,

2035
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 5: knuckle up or whatever it is they say with those

2036
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 5: little pillows on, so you know what, what else? What

2037
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 5: else can I say? Man? Emily Arena, Tampa, Florida. Just

2038
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 5: on pay per view, Main event, Right, Perry versus Paul,

2039
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 5: the Platinum One.

2040
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 2: That's Ocean's Daddy. July twentieth, The Zone, pay per View. Mike,

2041
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 2: thank you as always for joining us. We've been down

2042
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 2: since day one. We've been down since that time he

2043
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: wanted to kill me and he probably had.

2044
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: The right to to be fair. Yeah, congratulations on this opportunity. Man.

2045
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Really can't wait to see what happens.

2046
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 5: July twentieth, Thanks guys, enjoyed the show, man, I appreciate

2047
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 5: your time today.

2048
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 3: Shout out to all my sponsors.

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2051
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Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody ruled him for your boy and

2052
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 3: fuck all the haters. Bro.

2053
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

2054
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there he is.

2055
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: There, he is Mike Perry love it wow. Always such

2056
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 2: an inspiring friendly fella.

2057
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: You got the fire that burns in him.

2058
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 2: How do you not heer from him? Though? You know,

2059
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 2: I mean this is self made, you know, like the

2060
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 2: first half of Scarface, before he got really out of

2061
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: control and awesome, Like it was kind of like an

2062
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: American hero, like an American classic story of like, you know,

2063
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: the guy comes from another land and he builds his

2064
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: business up and.

2065
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: Took a turn towards it. This is Mike.

2066
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Speaker 2: Is that where he gets like the mansion and he's

2067
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 2: just you know, looking at everything that he's created. I'm

2068
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 2: happy for him.

2069
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Speaker 1: I will say, though, like you know, getting rich like

2070
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Speaker 1: that and having contentment in your life, it will soften you.

2071
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,800
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2072
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Speaker 1: It could harden your stool.

2073
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Speaker 2: I wonder you know, you asked Mike Perry an interesting

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2120
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2122
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2123
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2124
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Speaker 2: Is there still yes?

2125
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Speaker 1: Or no?

2126
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Speaker 2: Is there still a window that Brian Ortega comes out

2127
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2128
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Speaker 2: But do you remember the guy against Korean Zombie? No?

2129
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Speaker 2: I know the hand speed and foot speed was a

2130
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2132
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 2: like a tactical smart fighter. Yes, it wasn't like against Maxim.

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01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: He was just willing to go to fight to the death.

2134
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Right there will we see a return? Is there still

2135
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:10,799
Speaker 2: time in his career?

2136
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Lopez won't let him. Lopez is going to be in

2137
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: his face. Korean Zombie didn't do that. By the way,

2138
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: I did a breakdown for that fight on your personal channel. Yeah,

2139
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: well hold on. So after that, one of his main

2140
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 1: sparring partners wrote me and asked if I had been

2141
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: given information about what had happened in his camp because

2142
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: I had nailed it to a t about what they

2143
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: were trying and what he had done in the fight.

2144
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: He was actually like blown away or take his people.

2145
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were blown away that you diagnosed his game.

2146
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, see I've been diagnosing the potential of

2147
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 2: his personal life.

2148
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Before or taking himself. Didn't reach out as a training partner.

2149
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 1: But yes, dude, we.

2150
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: Got to get our take it back on the show,

2151
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: win or lose he gives Remember that interview he gave

2152
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 2: me on MK, I haven't interview like phoenix will rise

2153
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 2: from my loins, you know what I mean?

2154
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: Like, we still have to do dms some docs. You

2155
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 1: want to do it real quick?

2156
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Well you want to finish talking about three ZHO three

2157
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 2: or do you want to give the people a special

2158
01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 2: three oh three preview?

2159
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 1: Or I think we should do a special three h

2160
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: three preview?

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01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 2: We don't run another bonus episode.

2162
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: I think I think we have to. You know, it's

2163
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: a UFC paper view. We kind of have to.

2164
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:06,799
Speaker 2: It's chowder.

2165
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna bang eat chowder, all right.

2166
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 2: So if you were coming here, hoping for a detailed

2167
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: UFC three h three International Fight Week preview. You're gonna

2168
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: get it later.

2169
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: That is it?

2170
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Friday?

2171
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably do another one Friday.

2172
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, if you guys are prepared for the fist,

2173
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 2: we'll turn it. You know, we'll get that in there

2174
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 2: and just turn it right right, we don't.

2175
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: Well just so well yeah, well all right, all right,

2176
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, let's do it right now. Let's do the

2177
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 1: DMS from Donks all right?

2178
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 2: Well yeah, heehaw, let's hit it.

2179
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, just yes, you know, you know

2180
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: what that donkey's getting at hawk to a treatment, right,

2181
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: some other donkey is letting it be known. All right,

2182
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 1: let's get to it. From keV J. Math do my

2183
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: Oilers win? Tomorre? Have you followed the story?

2184
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: I am not following the Stanley Cup playoffs?

2185
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: Boys in the back? Am I right that the Oilers

2186
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: were down three to nothing in the series and have

2187
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: battled back? It's now three to three game seven?

2188
01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: Can you confirm that?

2189
01:39:59,360 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 1: Is that?

2190
01:39:59,600 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: Right?

2191
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 3: All right? Back there?

2192
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, So the last time we saw this was

2193
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: when the Red Sox played two thousand and four and four.

2194
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was at the Bloody Sock

2195
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 2: game in game six. People forget that except for the

2196
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: h that red who's that red hair chick that watches

2197
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 2: this show, the snarky red ginger. Yeah, he hates me because,

2198
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 2: you know, because I was like shilling fault like a

2199
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: man in that game.

2200
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, it was a great performance by him. But

2201
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: in any case, do you think they.

2202
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 2: I don't care whether they live or die, But what

2203
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 2: do you think? I don't care? So I think oilers.

2204
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 2: I think Warren Moon, you know, I think oilers.

2205
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: I think that girl with the remember that.

2206
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, you know, I said it to BC.

2207
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, we should put this on. Have you seen

2208
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 1: this ship? He's like, well, we actually can't. We can't

2209
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 1: do that.

2210
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't show those two. So we've shown We've

2211
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 2: shown Dong accidentally, We've shown death accidentally. By the way,

2212
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can show Tata. Well, actually

2213
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 2: we did, remember the Star of Mandalorian Gina Gina Corana, thank.

2214
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 1: You, right. I don't know. I don't follow enough hockey

2215
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,799
Speaker 1: to know, but I would love it if the Oilers

2216
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: did win.

2217
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

2218
01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 1: By the way.

2219
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 2: To Berdie Barmezel, publicist of the Stars forgetting us in

2220
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 2: touch with Mike Perry.

2221
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: Appreciate it all right. Question number two BC from Nate

2222
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: the Great Lux. I mean, how great is Nate right,

2223
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,919
Speaker 1: let's be very probably decent? Decent? Yeah? Is the middleweight division,

2224
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: in the words of Gravante mediocre?

2225
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, mediocre, mediocre.

2226
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: He's making fun of white people. What he says that

2227
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: I'm here for is the middleweight division becoming the new

2228
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: lightweight division in which the old Guard refuses to lose

2229
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 1: to the young up and comers. Good question.

2230
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 2: That is a good question. I said that it's sort

2231
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: of becoming the reality TV division of the moment, that

2232
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 2: there's so many like storylines and rivalries that I'm key

2233
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: to in on. Does it have the depth at the

2234
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: moment to be in this conversation with bantamweight and lightweight

2235
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,440
Speaker 2: as sort of the de facto deepest and best divisions.

2236
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 2: Which part of what makes it best is the fact

2237
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 2: that the old Guard refused to go quietly, right, So

2238
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 2: you're going to constantly get these cross roads, bang out matchups.

2239
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 2: Is it there yet you can.

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Speaker 1: Call it old guard? I think is he is thirty four?

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01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Rob's thirty three? I think both DDP and and char

2242
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: what thirty two? Yeah or less?

2243
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: I think they're just coming to a yeah exactly.

2244
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 1: It's not quite the old guard if you're at thirty

2245
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: five like DDP was excuse me, like Dustin PORI, what's

2246
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: a little different?

2247
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Would you agree that it's the best division right now

2248
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: at this moment, the best division of the sport? What

2249
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 2: midweight at the top end?

2250
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 1: You out your fucking mind. It's so good right now.

2251
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 1: It's definitely cool to have those four guys at the top.

2252
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: The rest of the division is you hold on for women?

2253
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: Show it or yeah, that's you. They do hold it out.

2254
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: I resemble that I'm not even.

2255
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 1: Reading this motherfucker's name, but you can put up questions.

2256
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: You can read it. How about reading read the spiker's

2257
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: name at dukie exactly? With contenders like brilliantly Ray and

2258
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 1: then kayas Kora, how likely is it that the UFC

2259
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: gets its first Japanese champion this year? Unlikely?

2260
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 2: The United Nations has said I should not comment on

2261
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 2: this question.

2262
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Well, Kayaska is not best in class, and Raceria and

2263
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: Tyra are very Tyra's maybe a flyway, He's a maybe.

2264
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: The problem with both of the other guys and Saruya

2265
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: and Tyra. Is not that their talent is any question.

2266
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: B See, they're just young, they're green, They're not quite

2267
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: there in terms of becoming who they will be sure,

2268
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: So it's like this year do they get it? That

2269
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: seems unlikely. Twenty six that could be a different conversation.

2270
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 2: Should be a totally different one.

2271
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: All Right, I don't want you, don't want you to

2272
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 1: get you canceled, but I do wrong alright? From uh

2273
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Fione Fione Radford McGovern. Okay, do you

2274
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: guys favorite MVP? Well, good question. Do you guys favor

2275
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: MVP to beat Ian Gary? Considering it will more than

2276
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 1: likely play out on the feet. If not, how do

2277
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: you see Ian Gary winning? He could win via ticket Like.

2278
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 2: This is like a majority split decision that Ian Gary

2279
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 2: will outswave MVP. But it'll be like a real heated

2280
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 2: chess match. It'll be a real could come down to

2281
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,799
Speaker 2: one clean punched on the end. And if Gary passes

2282
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 2: that test and does it against somebody that's so hard

2283
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 2: to hit but is also so different and elusive, I

2284
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: think he goes to another level on this, on this

2285
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 2: building and on this rise.

2286
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 1: Ian Gary is like a little bit of an outside kickboxer,

2287
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: so that won't really work all that well against MVP.

2288
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I think it will work a little bit, but not

2289
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: enough to win. I think, honestly, the clinch might be

2290
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 1: a really interesting part.

2291
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 2: I think the MMA community owns Owes his wife an

2292
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 2: apology for like the awful things that they said about

2293
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 2: like Dick's husband living.

2294
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: All the complete fabrications about the individual lives.

2295
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 2: Did she hear that video that she put out a

2296
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 2: couple months ago. I've watched it a lot of times.

2297
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

2298
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: I've not watched it. I've not watched it. I've not

2299
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 1: paid attention to it. I've just known we like the

2300
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: same sport, but for different Nobody is more concerned about

2301
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 1: how fighters are using their decks. I thought you saw

2302
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I thought you Sada was the most put the camera

2303
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,799
Speaker 1: on me. I thought you Sada was the most concerned

2304
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: about what fighters were doing with their dicks. No, No,

2305
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: it's it's a certain amount of MMA fans and a

2306
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: certain amount of MMA personalities. What is everyone doing what.

2307
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 2: I did twenty four to seven Vada access to just

2308
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 2: knockt on the door, like Dick inspection figure out.

2309
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: I've never ever once been concerned about what you would think.

2310
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, we've been in your DM, sir. It looks like

2311
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 2: something's about to take place here we are.

2312
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: If you've got hawk to a treatment going on, you're

2313
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: not watching other people's dicks, right, that's how that goes? Okay?

2314
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: All right, Last, but not least, I've just never seen

2315
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 1: what's up with that guy's dick? Man? What's he doing

2316
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: with that thing? The fuck is wrong with you? All?

2317
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: All right?

2318
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 2: Worst kind of people think about that?

2319
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 1: All right? Art underscore Lopez eighty five? Will Luke finally admit?

2320
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 1: What the fuck? The Mexican food the basketball you just

2321
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: put No, Mexican food is the superior Latin food. Now,

2322
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 1: that's a very interesting clim.

2323
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 2: I've been told Peruvian food is the elite South America.

2324
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: It is the I know Mexico is not South America,

2325
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:45,799
Speaker 2: but in the Jed.

2326
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Cruse food is the best in South America by a mile.

2327
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, MK, viewer, our guy Lee shouted me out and

2328
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,799
Speaker 2: taught me that, and I've had it, But Mexican food

2329
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 2: is my go to in this area. Make a case

2330
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 2: for someone else, make a case for Suriname.

2331
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, he's saying Latin food, these are not these are

2332
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: not Hispanic cultures about they were each other's ass when

2333
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: they crashed into a mountain. They were from. That's where

2334
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: they were from. Okay, so anything Latin would be what

2335
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Mexico down to. Basically, don't you tell me?

2336
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 2: I mean, is Belize, count Luke or you gonna do that.

2337
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Belize is not Latin?

2338
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 2: You check their blood.

2339
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 1: But just what kind of culture is there, dude, Mexicans

2340
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: up there. It's Mexicans up there.

2341
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: It's I'm talking about, not Americanized. I'm talking about when

2342
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 2: you go to like the authentic places.

2343
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 1: Where you can get like real molay or something like that, right, yeah,

2344
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: or that Elote you know, just that cocomna, remember, is

2345
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: really really, really really good. I'll say this, Oh man,

2346
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not better than Peruvian. It's not.

2347
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: It's not better than It's really fucking good. It's amazing.

2348
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 2: You know, when Tupac saying when he was it's number two,

2349
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 2: it's number two. When Tupac was like and weekends were

2350
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 2: made for Michelobe that like he was so early on

2351
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 2: on really understanding the class and quality of beer that

2352
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, with the craft of revolution that came after that,

2353
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 2: then Michelobe wouldn't even shout out to Mikelobe. You get

2354
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 2: to peel the paper off, right that those are pretty cool?

2355
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 6: You know.

2356
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this Peruvia number one, Mexican number two, I

2357
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: probably without Argentina number three.

2358
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 2: All right, you want to see my ship.

2359
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 1: But maybe Brasilt too.

2360
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have any more of these?

2361
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: Deal, let's it, We're done, all right.

2362
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 2: I scared with the Globe yesterday for the highs and lows,

2363
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between, and

2364
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 2: the worlds of combat sports will usually beyond.

2365
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: We're probably about to look at a bunch of dicks

2366
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 1: considering assaulted.

2367
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: Be some elder abuse too. This one's called Have you

2368
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 2: seen this, Luke? It didn't take long for Hawk Toua

2369
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 2: to take over the war Old we got merch.

2370
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 1: Would you wear this hat in a minute?

2371
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 2: Spin on that thing? Yeah, give him that, give him

2372
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 2: that that.

2373
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean the oh, I mean a class.

2374
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 2: That woman is iconic.

2375
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: She is We need to add what she said to

2376
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: our our intro. Have you seen this ship? But instead

2377
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 1: of legit?

2378
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 2: Okay, we've also got truck decals. If you're interested, probably

2379
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 2: in Florida, you can get spin on that thing on

2380
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 2: the back. You can also get the full political sign

2381
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 2: on your back window.

2382
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Oh this guy appears like a loser.

2383
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Luke. We've also got new shirts. Would

2384
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 2: you wear this? And I'm kay if they'll send you

2385
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 2: a free.

2386
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,759
Speaker 1: One If she don't hawk to a I don't talk

2387
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: to it's not bad.

2388
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: And can you special edition rate that hawk at and

2389
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 2: spit on that thing? Can you rate that test?

2390
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Luke? That's a ten out of ten. That's out of ten.

2391
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,520
Speaker 2: Wow, mister Heba's getting the shaft once.

2392
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: Again, someone's getting the shaft.

2393
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: Think about that, right, Yeah, somebody is. Hey, Luke, it's

2394
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,839
Speaker 2: a UFC making it Saudi debut. Look at the passion

2395
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 2: of the.

2396
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 1: So awesome on Saturday.

2397
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 2: And I love these moments when you see the real

2398
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 2: come out of him. That's the pent up aggression. Look

2399
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 2: at that.

2400
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: Look at that? Yeah dude, yeah, I prepared his amah change.

2401
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 2: He must be a passionate lover. You know what I mean.

2402
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 2: We don't talk about that enough, right, Okay?

2403
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Once again, not interesting, Luke.

2404
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 2: Robert Whitaker took advantage of the early finish by announcing

2405
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 2: he's about to finish early.

2406
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 3: You you you.

2407
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm done now, I can just go upstairs and

2408
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 6: get back to doing what I was doing before.

2409
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 3: This hard cool masturbating.

2410
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 1: That's literally me to you on every single work trip.

2411
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 2: What if Rob was one of us? Luke just a

2412
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 2: slob like one of us? All right? Also, Kelvin Gastiln

2413
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: picked the wrong week to leave this kind of evidence

2414
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 2: on the internet ahead of Missing Weight.

2415
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 5: Guys, And this is why is you can see I

2416
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 5: have a whole bouffe why it is called.

2417
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: Missing weight with cage.

2418
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 2: You were about to eat this all up and we

2419
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 2: ain't gonna make weight.

2420
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna miss the weight.

2421
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 2: How prophetic? Fair athetic?

2422
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: You would say, buffet and Spanish?

2423
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 2: All right, we're not gonna pick apart. That guy gave

2424
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 2: half of his life at UFC three thirty six. Can

2425
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 2: we respect him on that regard? Okay.

2426
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,600
Speaker 1: Also, that video had like I mean, maybe people have

2427
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: watched it since, but like as of like Friday, there

2428
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: was like two k less than two ks.

2429
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: That video just came out ahead of this.

2430
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 1: No, no, no, uh no, I think it had been

2431
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: out for a little while. It was like a month

2432
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 1: ago he did it.

2433
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 2: Okay, it still looks really bad. Danis pissed at him.

2434
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 2: I feel bad.

2435
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: You know, I don't feel bad. I don't even feel

2436
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, what's still upset is Pavlovitch.

2437
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 2: Did you see afterwards when former Spark partner, Yeah Volkov

2438
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 2: tried to congratulate him.

2439
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you know what, he's just frustrated. This is

2440
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: what I'll say this man like, I don't really judge

2441
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: guys im imediately after fights. It's on sportsman liking shitty.

2442
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: You shouldn't do it, but I you gotta wait, wait

2443
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 1: like six or seven hours and then see what they're saying.

2444
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: If they're still saying shitty things, well then fuck them.

2445
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 2: But all right, hashtag fight Forever. Nicholas Dalby and Rena

2446
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: fuck Rednikoff. Look at what they gave us for the

2447
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 2: last ten seconds of their three round war.

2448
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, this was you know, I'll sell both phone boy.

2449
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. He's got a helicopter arm. This is

2450
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,879
Speaker 1: this is what it looks like in my car wash.

2451
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: I like Nicholas Dalby though he's a good dude.

2452
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 2: So Luke. Saudi Arabia brought us that action, but it

2453
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 2: brought us a brewing bromance between Dana and Turkey Alaska. Yeah,

2454
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 2: here's evidence. Number one, when Dana named Turkey the new

2455
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 2: BMF champion, Luke, belt looks really good on them.

2456
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: Right, nothing like profanity is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,

2457
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

2458
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: Number Two, Turkey tweeted this video and it was it

2459
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 2: was shades of shades of uh, what's that guy's name? Wow?

2460
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: Look at that, Luke, This is Turkey. But honestly, you

2461
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: know who can shadow box like this?

2462
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 2: Two key stage of shadow box Standard? Remember former heavyweight

2463
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 2: title challenger Ron Standard Terrence Crawford would fight in Omaha

2464
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: where Ron's from. Oh yeah, and then they'd show him

2465
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 2: rings out and he'd be like, all crip and he'd

2466
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 2: be like throwing like that's kind of what Turkey. But

2467
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 2: I respect because that's my move, Turkey whenever I get

2468
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:17,640
Speaker 2: excited about to.

2469
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: Fight, just in that's every guy you know, waiting for

2470
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 1: the shower to heat up, you know.

2471
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 2: And then he literally led Dana through the country by

2472
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 2: the hand. Luke, what did you make of this video?

2473
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: So this might just be some kind of cultural thing

2474
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Obviously, the only common denominator is, you know,

2475
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: the fact that they're Muslim countries. When I was in Turkey,

2476
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: dudes would walk arm in arm together at his ages too, not.

2477
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 2: Like old ones twenty twenty four Now this.

2478
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Is twenty fourteen, so this is a while ago. But

2479
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: they would kind of walk arm in arm like that.

2480
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's just so.

2481
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 2: The Internet thought it was like him making a statement

2482
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 2: to everybody that I have ownership over this.

2483
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Just if they want to do that, they just own

2484
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: saw them.

2485
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 2: Well, Turkey took the bromance to the next level on

2486
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 2: the ESPN broadcast Let's listen, invent went so successful here

2487
01:52:58,520 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 2: tonight you want.

2488
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: I want to have a meeting with him and.

2489
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 6: The director, Zack Snyder is a friend. We want to

2490
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 6: talk about doing big movie about the UFC, like a

2491
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 6: Cinderella Man something like this. I will try to convince

2492
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 6: Zack Snyder. He liked the idea and convinced also Donna.

2493
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 2: Look, they're gonna do a Cinderella Man style movie about

2494
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 2: the I'm gonna guess the odds and obstacles that were

2495
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 2: overcoming the creation of the UFC was the.

2496
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: Promoter in any way. The hero and Cinderella Man.

2497
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: No, no, the the the poor fighter who who fought

2498
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 2: through the depression.

2499
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 1: The guy that was basically eating shoelaces was.

2500
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 2: Working the docks to try to keep money on the table.

2501
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not sure you can do that one unless

2502
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: you're unless the UFC is the villain in the.

2503
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 2: Okay, If there was no symbolism in the picture of

2504
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 2: Turk in the video of Turkey guiding Dana by the hand,

2505
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 2: what's the symbolism in Turkey posting this picture?

2506
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?

2507
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 2: Well? Look, I first thought was it's a Connor party,

2508
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, where's where's Craig Jones when

2509
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 2: we need him? Right?

2510
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 3: No?

2511
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: But does that show that like Dana's arrived in the

2512
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 2: desert in Saudi and he's getting his hands dirty, and

2513
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 2: and you know, Dana's like, let me tell you how

2514
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 2: much I hate the media. Turkey.

2515
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: I feel we can bond over this, right, you know

2516
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Oh, that's hilarious. A couple of guys

2517
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: I've wanted to bone.

2518
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 3: There I go.

2519
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 2: But that's interesting, all right? Confirm or deny Luke. Fans

2520
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: of your live chat have said that you audibly farted

2521
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 2: on air this week. Let's see.

2522
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: Let's listen and listen. The integration of a really developed

2523
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: smart game. It's all there as well. And I gotta

2524
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: tell you, like, I don't know where your appetite is. Oh,

2525
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might have.

2526
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 2: I might have since we've been normalized.

2527
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: Actually percent serious. I don't remember doing that, but it could.

2528
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 2: Be an AI fart. But since we've been normalizing the

2529
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 2: idea of shitting your pants as an adult, maybe you

2530
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 2: can normalize that move for a part. Because I I

2531
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 2: ate on the air and our and people know won't

2532
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 2: let me forge, they won't forget.

2533
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: You're just now you sound like a fucking barn. It

2534
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: looked like Tyron Woodley in that movie. So I didn't

2535
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: realize that I might have farded. I might have farted

2536
01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: it all.

2537
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, BKFC highlight of the week, Luke, watch out

2538
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 2: if you're a referee trying to stop a fight early.

2539
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh fucking ship. Oh wow, dude, what the

2540
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 1: fuck he was? Like?

2541
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 2: I smelled that Deli meat and whoches that Keith Peterson. No,

2542
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: it's not look at even Feldman getting involved.

2543
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 1: Man, all right, tough ass sport, Luke.

2544
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 2: You know I love when Reel is out there recognizing

2545
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 2: real right, check out this two goats Fador and Boney.

2546
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 2: What do you think they talked about?

2547
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Why is John dressed?

2548
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 3: Like?

2549
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 2: What do you think they talked about? I'm gonna guess

2550
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 2: this was maybe at that uh when was John and

2551
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 2: Saudie for one of the big boxing.

2552
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Matches right for the PFL one or some ship.

2553
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 2: That's right? Yeah, yeah, that's that's uh.

2554
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it must be because that Fador has hapened wearing

2555
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: the bellatour gear and it was bellator versus PFL. Okay,

2556
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: you might have been there for that.

2557
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 2: If you're mad that the UFC is allowing this old

2558
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 2: guy fight with stepe A to take two years of

2559
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 2: our attention out of one hundred, what are the odds

2560
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: that the UFC would be willing to give Fador one

2561
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 2: more call to fight John before he retires?

2562
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 3: Zero?

2563
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 2: That says there, you'd give a brock lesnar Jones match

2564
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four ahead of that one?

2565
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 4: Yes?

2566
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 2: Interesting?

2567
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 1: All right?

2568
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 2: Reel recognized Real Luke in Vegas after Benavidez scored a

2569
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 2: big win on pay per view when El Monstro and

2570
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 2: Dana White caught up.

2571
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: Would you think about this? Hey, I would love to

2572
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: hear what he do? You know what he says?

2573
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 2: Just Danias said, how bad, asked Benavidez.

2574
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this, like, I've realized people are

2575
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 1: kind of down on him based on the performance at

2576
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 1: one seventy five, But I was down on him.

2577
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 2: He was hurt.

2578
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I was. I'm saying people have been.

2579
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 1: But like, if there's one guy who's like guaranteed action

2580
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: in general, it's David Benavidez. I get what day want. Well.

2581
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 2: Rolie Romero walked by some boxing royalty in public against Julio,

2582
01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: says our Chavid Senior, and looked at working on, you know,

2583
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: carving up that game a little bit, sharpening.

2584
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Up the Spanish barely.

2585
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 2: I mean, his dad's from Cuba of Cuban descent, so

2586
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 2: he has you can get by, You can get by,

2587
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: I believe. What do you think about this mentorship? What

2588
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 2: do you think they were talking about bitches or boxing?

2589
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 1: A little column an you.

2590
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 2: Asked for more parkor hell Luke involving white folks. Let's

2591
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 2: go to that.

2592
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the only kind.

2593
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 2: European edition.

2594
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, hold on, let me see this.

2595
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 2: Pf Ela Door. Speaking of Europe, pf el Ador was

2596
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 2: in Dublin, Luke, how about Zubet malgo med Scheramov's brother,

2597
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: Hassan Cassan improved five and oh there he is on

2598
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 2: the right.

2599
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 1: Looks a lot like styling.

2600
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, this is like video game stuff. What do

2601
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 2: you think do you think he could become what Zabeat

2602
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 2: never was?

2603
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't understand the graphic featherweight mail one. Is

2604
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: that what they're doing? Yes, I can tell that they're males. Well, yeah,

2605
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: they just do. They love putting graphics on the screen

2606
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 1: that no one needs.

2607
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 2: The favorite future Irish star Paul Hughes made his longer

2608
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 2: rated You look in Europe here he is giving Bobby

2609
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 2: King the TKO fit.

2610
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: This is not Bobby King Green or Bobby Green King,

2611
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Bobby Green or whatever the fuck. It's not Bobby Green.

2612
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, Paul Hughes looke pretty great. Took him,

2613
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: took him a little bit to get going, and took

2614
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 1: I think a couple of big shots in the first round,

2615
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 1: but in general.

2616
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 2: After the win with Connor and attendance, Hughes gave flowers

2617
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 2: to the man. Let's hear it.

2618
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: What do you think of this?

2619
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 7: Well, of course, this is a it's a huge occasion,

2620
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,920
Speaker 7: you know, bellots or debut. We're hearing Dublin this incredible arena.

2621
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 7: You might Conor McGregor over there watching paying attention, giving

2622
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 7: you a round of applause. I mean, probably wouldn't be

2623
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 7: in the this position if it wasn't for a moment

2624
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 7: Like God, the inspirement comes from this item.

2625
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 3: Was the first month to ever show us young lads.

2626
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 2: It was possible on our breaks doing a lot of

2627
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 2: metal barriers on People Talk Ship, but this mom.

2628
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 3: Changed the game on changed all of our.

2629
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 2: Young fighters lives. So shut out call McGregor because that guy,

2630
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 2: he's the mom I'd always well be the greatest ever tiger.

2631
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 2: Well look, unfortunately, if they're talking about you in those terms,

2632
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 2: it usually means because it's over. They're almost saying, remember

2633
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 2: what this.

2634
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Guy needs to be.

2635
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 2: I hate that we're there, forget.

2636
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 1: I hate that we're there.

2637
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 2: And it's in activity that got us there.

2638
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 1: A little more than that white lightning, white magic.

2639
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going. Hey, Ryan Garcia can't

2640
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 2: box for a year, but he showed up on the

2641
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 2: Celebrity Poker live stream, annoying Jimmy Butler Neymark.

2642
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: Is he gonna chuck that whole thing.

2643
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 2: All right, all right, but.

2644
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 3: Did insane.

2645
01:59:59,520 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 7: Do?

2646
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm different, It's.

2647
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 2: Him anywhere, it feels great.

2648
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: I love Jesus and uh, I'm.

2649
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 2: Feeling great.

2650
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 1: Falling off. I'm happy the money went to you because

2651
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 1: you have a lot of What are your thoughts on him?

2652
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 3: He slept with did he?

2653
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 2: He had massive sex with him? Then I beat his

2654
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 2: ass and he sues me.

2655
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 1: Had massive sex, So apparently he was up big.

2656
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 2: But then he told on the live stream everybody that

2657
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 2: he had to make that comedy debut with Crystalia, which

2658
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 2: actually happened, and he didn't tell any jokes. He just

2659
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 2: stood there and drunkenly talked to the microphone. So I

2660
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 2: was told that he just started losing hands on purpose.

2661
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 2: And then he was asked about boxing and he said,

2662
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,160
Speaker 2: I can't box for a year, but I've been begging

2663
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 2: Dana White for a fight. And then during the stream,

2664
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 2: I was told he was asked what is MMA game

2665
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 2: would look like? In his response, I'm gonna drop loads

2666
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 2: in these guys mouths.

2667
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have gay sex.

2668
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I feel abaud even putting these

2669
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 2: clips in there anymore.

2670
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 1: This is only going to You know what just drives

2671
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 1: me nuts is he's obviously a fucking disaster and this

2672
02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 1: is gonna end badly. I don't know, I don't know when,

2673
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: but it's going to end badly.

2674
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 2: I hope not.

2675
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: But it's the hit the people online cheerleading this motherfucker's

2676
02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 1: descent into nothingness.

2677
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah we're getting there, dude.

2678
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 1: It looks like fun in games.

2679
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 2: Well here we got in a video of him exiting

2680
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 2: the poker room looking across.

2681
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 3: What is this this?

2682
02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 4: I know?

2683
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 2: But your boy is sideways after that? Wow? All right,

2684
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 2: let's go to UFC.

2685
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 3: Looking at this.

2686
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad there were no cameras on me when I

2687
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 1: was twenty five.

2688
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, no Facebook either. Let's go over you a

2689
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 2: UFC Louisville, Luke. There was a good ass crowd fighting there.

2690
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this?

2691
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 1: Let's see oh ship, oh pop? Oh take that dude again.

2692
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 1: It's so rare that you see someone win a fight

2693
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: from a from the lower ground.

2694
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2695
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:16,760
Speaker 1: I always want to be from an ELM.

2696
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 2: We learned that in Return of the Jet or no no,

2697
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:20,240
Speaker 2: because remember.

2698
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: UFC, what was the last UFC there were at there

2699
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 1: was the one guy who won? You played it last week.

2700
02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't we learn that from Obi Wan. You

2701
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 2: got to get the high ground.

2702
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 1: Get the high ground, especially especially if you're doing the

2703
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 1: old papal. You gotta get from elevant. Luke.

2704
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 2: You ever, won't go to a golf match and they're

2705
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: like and as soon as somebody hits, they're like, you're

2706
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 2: in the hall or something like real aggress I don't

2707
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 2: go to golf matches. But yes, they got new rallying.

2708
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 3: Cries like this game, the honor in TEGs Pinners half.

2709
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 2: I just shipped my pants just once again, just way,

2710
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 2: one more time. I love about this game, the honor

2711
02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 2: in teg revs.

2712
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 3: Parners half.

2713
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,120
Speaker 2: We're just normalizing it one clip at a time. Hey,

2714
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 2: smoke them if you got them, Luke, this is three

2715
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 2: ounces of weed it took to do the Ronald mccopbox.

2716
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 2: Could you stand the pain inside of there that this

2717
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 2: man is undergoing.

2718
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 1: No, but I wouldn't try to stand it. I would

2719
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 1: just let the smoke take me.

2720
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 2: Well, this is what he attempted here.

2721
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 1: This is aggressive.

2722
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 2: Three ounces it takes to do this. He's coughing violently.

2723
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 2: We are currently not running the audio, but it is aggressive. Oh,

2724
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 2: hell yeah, Oh wow, just a dream ending right there.

2725
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 1: You would be so fucking baked.

2726
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, it's almost July fourth and squirrel Bait was

2727
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 2: back honoring America with both his shirt and this immensive

2728
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 2: watermelon bong system dance right, Luke, what do you think

2729
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 2: of this? First of all, it's patriotic, I mean big so,

2730
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 2: squirrel Bait said, shout out to Scuilbait. First of all,

2731
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:04,080
Speaker 2: he said, us and our crew are welcome anytime in

2732
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 2: the Greater LA area with him and his boys.

2733
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 1: What is the what language is that?

2734
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 2: Maybe it's South Southern it's like.

2735
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 1: Half Spanish, half Portuguese or.

2736
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:16,000
Speaker 2: No, it's that's right, that's his catchphrase.

2737
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 1: No aha pomona.

2738
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know who's I don't know who's getting

2739
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 2: off on that. But speaking of watermelons, what do you

2740
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 2: think of this meme?

2741
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 1: A little aggressive? All right, let's keep it going, Luke.

2742
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 2: This next one brings new meaning to the term lunch lines.

2743
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 2: Do you ever see those at.

2744
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 1: School casually having a couple of cheeky lines for lunch? No,

2745
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 1: man's even wearing a sweater and shit.

2746
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,240
Speaker 2: Right just getting in the UK. They just get at

2747
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 2: Craig Jones should move there. They just get after that

2748
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 2: all the time, Luke, Australia and the UK, These white folks,

2749
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:57,320
Speaker 2: they just love it.

2750
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 1: It angels them.

2751
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 2: Oh, indeed, a couple more for.

2752
02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 1: You, Luke.

2753
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 2: Raoul Rosas has really turned this into a juggernaut.

2754
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 3: What you think of the cut?

2755
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, looke, tell me you wouldn't buy a Chiwi

2756
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 2: wei's headband?

2757
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 1: I would not buy a Chew's headband?

2758
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 2: How about undies that just said chewee wee's across and

2759
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 2: like in like a half circle around the ground.

2760
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: I would also not purchase these items? All right?

2761
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,480
Speaker 2: Uh luke, Uh, let's go my kid. By the way,

2762
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 2: my son just got my son, Christians Scot's license this week. Yeah,

2763
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:31,920
Speaker 2: I took him.

2764
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 1: Our learners are licensed the full license.

2765
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 2: Late sorry, late last week. So I got a driver

2766
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 2: on the road. I'm gonna have him watched this video.

2767
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 3: So I just got fired for literally no reason.

2768
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 2: My boss said, it's because you're.

2769
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 1: On your phone too much, you're too distracted at working. Well,

2770
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 1: we got one more. I'm hoping guys like that die

2771
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 1: because it's such a great version of natural selection.

2772
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 2: It's a great bit. Yeah, we got one more for you.

2773
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 2: We love America, we love white folks, and we love trampoline,

2774
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 2: so we combine them.

2775
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: Someone's about to break their motherfucking legs. Watch this ship.

2776
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: I've never even seen this, and I know, look at

2777
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 1: this fat motherfucker. You're better play that one more time, motherfucker.

2778
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:22,680
Speaker 1: Look at this hefty piece of ship.

2779
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 2: Wow, just like his hero FDR.

2780
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2781
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna put you in the same place, this

2782
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 1: time without Papolio.

2783
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about a new deal.

2784
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Yeah, what a show.

2785
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 2: This is the stupidest two hours of your week.

2786
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna have to give a shout out to somebody. Uh,

2787
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 1: Saul Milton, who is one half of Chasing Status. That man,

2788
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,200
Speaker 1: so shouts to Saul. Saul was in d C for

2789
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 1: a Chasing Status show.

2790
02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 2: I think it's in in UK talk and brit speak

2791
02:06:58,720 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 2: it's pronounced status.

2792
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, you know I went in Rome. But anyway,

2793
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 1: Saul was like, hey, let's connect. You want me to

2794
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: come to a show. We could not get a babysitter

2795
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 1: in time. He didn't feel like needs more Viking, so

2796
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 1: well here's the thing. He didn't go on until one am.

2797
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saul, we're forty six years old. I'm a forty six.

2798
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:19,160
Speaker 1: Very soon his set was one to two thirty and

2799
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh dude, I can't.

2800
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, we just can't do that shock MAJORI would

2801
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 2: have loved that.

2802
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: So but I promised him next time I'll make a

2803
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,040
Speaker 1: we'd make some room for it. Anyway, we did link up,

2804
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 1: we got some drinks and we hung out for a

2805
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 1: little bit before his show at the Hotel.

2806
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 2: The nicest man, the nicest guy, And it wasn't pitched

2807
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:35,160
Speaker 2: to us when Dan Hardy brought it in his friend

2808
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:37,480
Speaker 2: to our locker room before our London show. It wasn't

2809
02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 2: pitch like here's this awesome famous guy who watches you.

2810
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:41,520
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, yeah, my buddy saw sir.

2811
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 1: He's a big fanny and that's how he treats it

2812
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:45,360
Speaker 1: when you're with him too. He's just a dude, he's

2813
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 1: but he's cool. So shouts to Saul. We did get

2814
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:50,200
Speaker 1: to meet up with him and his show in DC

2815
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 1: was sold out too, so I asked him how the

2816
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:54,560
Speaker 1: American crowds were. He was telling me ten years ago,

2817
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 1: this is way he told me. I didn't know this.

2818
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 1: He told me like ten years ago, the American crowds

2819
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 1: were nothing skrill X. You know skrill X. No, skrill

2820
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,120
Speaker 1: X is like, Yeff, how would you describe skrill X.

2821
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:06,400
Speaker 2: Geff doesn't know skrill X.

2822
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: How would you describe him?

2823
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if works here anymore?

2824
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: Do you know who skrill X is?

2825
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 2: Of course?

2826
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:19,120
Speaker 1: How would you describe his music? To Brian? But also

2827
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 1: like like like you know, it's like dubstep a little

2828
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 1: bit too. Anyway, Well, here's the thing. I'm not a

2829
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: scrill X guy, but apparently he was like the first

2830
02:08:29,320 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 1: major version of this kind of music here to hit.

2831
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 1: He said. After that it completely opened the doors. And

2832
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 1: ever since then, ever since Scrireletics became really popular, he's

2833
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 1: just been able to come here and sell out shows.

2834
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:44,400
Speaker 1: So shouts to him, man, Saul Milton, good dude.

2835
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:45,960
Speaker 2: Love that guy, big big shout out to that guy.

2836
02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 2: I can't wait a lot of guys in the extended

2837
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 2: UK universe, MKA universe, Luke, who have shown us the love.

2838
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 2: But you know, we got to catch up. We got

2839
02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 2: to meet Oteo. That was amazing.

2840
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was cool.

2841
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:58,400
Speaker 2: I want to feel this love with our other people,

2842
02:08:58,440 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 2: like big e.

2843
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:01,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I meant to tell you so I was feel you, biggie.

2844
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 1: I was riding bikes with the Tuchster yesterday in the neighborhood. Yeah,

2845
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 1: and we went to the park and then we came

2846
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: back from the park and we're riding our bikes back

2847
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 1: from the park and one of my neighbors I never

2848
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 1: I never even noticed this.

2849
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 2: They saw the workout video of their house in the background.

2850
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not even They had a grateful Dead

2851
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 1: sticker on their car and they have a d C.

2852
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: Well I maybe have been Virginia, I can't remember. They

2853
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 1: had a vanity plate. They had like a version of

2854
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 1: Deadhead on it. And I was like, I'm not even

2855
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't even like this band like you like. And

2856
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 1: I've seen them at the sphere pussy, did.

2857
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 2: You like your un you over hear at otel?

2858
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 1: That's my motherfucking that's my motherfucker frand bitch.

2859
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you talk dead with them?

2860
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:43,240
Speaker 1: No, they were not in their house, but I'd never

2861
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 1: seen that.

2862
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 2: They passed away, but the car was collected.

2863
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:51,200
Speaker 1: But I never see that. The neighborhood's I was like, huh, interesting.

2864
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 2: All right, so we'll be back Friday show Fridays are

2865
02:09:54,440 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 2: free free Fridays. I mean it's a busy schedule. We

2866
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 2: might as well give the people what they want. They

2867
02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 2: asked to have us treat them this way, to just

2868
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 2: physically overpower them. And while it, you know, it's quite

2869
02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 2: morally questionable lot of times, you know ethically too, But well.

2870
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 1: The good news is we're not getting paid to do it.

2871
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:11,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's all you know.

2872
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 2: I keep saying we need to get Jean Jelae in

2873
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 2: the studio. Do you think it would be a train record?

2874
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:17,160
Speaker 2: Would be just comedic gold.

2875
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:19,240
Speaker 1: We'd have to smoke cigarettes with him.

2876
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude loves parliaments.

2877
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know we'd have to smoke cigarettes with him.

2878
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 1: But I think it could work.

2879
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Look, people have commented that they've never seen you

2880
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:30,640
Speaker 2: happier of late than in this MK journey than right now.

2881
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:32,680
Speaker 2: This is the time to be the least happy in

2882
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 2: MK history. What is fueling your thunder?

2883
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I apologize for trying to be happy. Probably

2884
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:42,600
Speaker 1: the drugs. Probably probably the antidepressants that I've been taking.

2885
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,360
Speaker 2: Drugs win the drugs war once again.

2886
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:45,960
Speaker 3: I mean.

2887
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 1: The thing is, like, honestly, I've it's obviously if the

2888
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:53,640
Speaker 1: amount of stress that we've been under, I'm not saying

2889
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 1: it couldn't get worse. It could always get worse. But

2890
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:57,480
Speaker 1: like in terms of like the processing I had to

2891
02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:59,040
Speaker 1: go through to get to the place I'm in now,

2892
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 1: I kind of went through, not all of it, but

2893
02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Should I keep worrying about all

2894
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: those things trying to get to the next.

2895
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 2: This is why from the beginning the stupid show has

2896
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 2: been relatable. Yeah, you know, it just documents the growth,

2897
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,600
Speaker 2: the journey, the ups and downs of men and the

2898
02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 2: yeah you know, I mean, I guess women are allowed

2899
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 2: to write kind of like suffrage. At some point they're like,

2900
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:23,320
Speaker 2: we got a lot of men, right, you know, it's

2901
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:24,640
Speaker 2: great right on that note.

2902
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 1: On that note, that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Follow

2903
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:30,480
Speaker 1: us on all the socials and ship You can put

2904
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 1: that graphic up there. Gaff by the way, shouts to gaff.

2905
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 2: Ronnick Gaff came out of MK retirement.

2906
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,800
Speaker 1: If you used to work with us and you've been fired,

2907
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:42,400
Speaker 1: you can work with us again, Yeah, yeah for free.

2908
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah no no, no, So there's that. There is that,

2909
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:48,800
Speaker 1: But we have to get out of here. That's Brian Campbell,

2910
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to the whole crew here and

2911
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 1: Middle Lark, thanks together.

2912
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:52,800
Speaker 2: I don't have any shoes on, but we're gonna have

2913
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 2: to go toe to toe one of these days.

2914
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 1: Look all right, we're gonna have to listen. If if

2915
02:11:57,080 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 1: if she don't talk to A, we ain't gonna talk

2916
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:01,400
Speaker 1: to you. We out