WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 022622 Did Officer Kim Potter Get What She Deserved?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Czicker. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>rams Is joh I go by the name q Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on it, I might stick with that, I

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<v Speaker 2>might go with something different.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, man, times already change that. My entertainment PERSONA game up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know I'm coming up, but it's because of y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all can't see me, Lane, Lane, It's because of y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yes, And we are back up and you one.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll again to talk about some of the goings on

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<v Speaker 1>in Black America. A lot of important things happening in

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<v Speaker 1>the news that we need to talk about. And we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your audience. We appreciate your ears, and we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your empathy, sympathy, support, you know, cheerleading, et cetera. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stick around. We got a lot to share with you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we're going to talk about the verdict from

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<v Speaker 1>the Kim Potter trial. If you don't know, Kim Potter

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<v Speaker 1>is the officer that was attempting to grab a taser allegedly,

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<v Speaker 1>no we saw it, well, I guess you have to

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<v Speaker 1>say allegedly, but she was attempting to grab a taser

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<v Speaker 1>and instead pulled out a gun and took the life

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<v Speaker 1>of John tay Wright, a young black man. Also, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about, in the opposite side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>the verdict from the Ahmad Aubrey trial, where there was

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps a bit more satisfactory outcome. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some good and some bad today. We also

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<v Speaker 1>got a few other things to discuss our way black history. Fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to breathe some life into the name Thomas Fuller,

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<v Speaker 1>who was often called the Virginia Calculator, born in the

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<v Speaker 1>slave coast of West Africa in seventeen ten. But a

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<v Speaker 1>story you need to stick around for, trust me. But

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<v Speaker 1>like we always do at this time, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>we like to start off with some ebony excellence. How

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<v Speaker 1>does that resound? Yes we do, Yes, sir, so, yes

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<v Speaker 1>we do. Today's story comes from Black Enterprise dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and I will share. A black woman is now the

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<v Speaker 1>majority owner of a new multimillion dollar film and television

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<v Speaker 1>studio in Atlanta. The Atlanta Journal Constitution reports Tammy Williams

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<v Speaker 1>has over twenty five years of experience in the film

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<v Speaker 1>and television industry. She has written and produced a plethora

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<v Speaker 1>of projects such as films, biographies, documentaries, entertainment, and network news.

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<v Speaker 1>According to her biography, Williams owned her first digital production

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<v Speaker 1>company called Tammy Dell Film in twenty sixteen and is

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<v Speaker 1>now the first black woman to own a one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty five million dollar studio and post production fill

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<v Speaker 1>that post production facility space in Atlanta, Georgia. Let's give

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<v Speaker 1>it a one time for some black girl magic. Please

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<v Speaker 1>for the black girl I will continue. Williams and her

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<v Speaker 1>business partner Gary Guidry, who's an investor in CEOG Squared

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<v Speaker 1>Events and Black Promoters collective funded Cinema South Studios. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a quote from him. He says, We've been patient. This

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<v Speaker 1>has not been an overnight thing. This vision for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and Williams has worked toward making her dream a reality

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<v Speaker 1>for twelve years. They'll begin to break around in March

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<v Speaker 1>for Cinema South Studios, located north of Fayette County. The

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<v Speaker 1>studio will occupy sixty acres and intends to have eleven

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<v Speaker 1>sound stages of back prop house, wardrobe rental facility, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lighting grip rental house. Production facility will include a

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<v Speaker 1>transportation company and an office building to house theater and

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<v Speaker 1>prost production facilities. Now, Tyler Perry is not the only

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<v Speaker 1>game in town. Now we have a black woman and

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<v Speaker 1>as we stated, we are big fans of black girl

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<v Speaker 1>magic around here. So one more time, some ebony excellence

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<v Speaker 1>going out to Tammy Williams in Atlanta, Georgia, occupying a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more room in the media space which we desperately,

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<v Speaker 1>desperately need.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep going, miss Tammy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, all right, now let's get down to business.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't talked about this, so Kim Potter, did you expect?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>First off, let me let me let me share a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about if you haven't been keeping up with

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<v Speaker 1>the Kim Potter story, I got a little blurb from

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ again. She was the officer convicted of or accused

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the word of killing Dante Wright intending

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<v Speaker 1>to pull out her taser and using her gun instead. Allegedly,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened is she is the ex Minnesota cop who

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<v Speaker 1>was pulled over Dante Wright for an expired tag and

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<v Speaker 1>an illegal air freshener. They attempted to arrest him when

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<v Speaker 1>they learned he had a warrant, and he tried to flee.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when Potter pulled out a gun and shot him.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the one who says after she shoots, or as

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<v Speaker 1>she's shooting, she's yelling taser, Taser, taser, and then moments

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<v Speaker 1>later she says, holy, yes word, I just shot him.

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<v Speaker 1>And she broke down crying, and the officer went ticks

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<v Speaker 1>and sold her. So this is who we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>today now. Of course this she gets charged with I

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<v Speaker 1>believe manslaughter. Yeah it says manslaughter here and goes to trial.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you expect the outcome to be?

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you that follow us, I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the show pessimist realist.

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<v Speaker 3>I call you a realist the right word.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not shocked when there's no charges, and when there

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<v Speaker 2>are charges, I'm not shocked and there's no conviction, and

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<v Speaker 2>when there is a conviction, I'm not shocked when the

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<v Speaker 2>sentencing is extremely weak. So my shocked absolutely not. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it further my sense of quote unquote realism?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like my hope dwindles with every incident with this

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<v Speaker 3>type of result. Sure that's fair. So yeah, that's that. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I I try to look at things and have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a positive spin, right, this one is

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<v Speaker 1>very challenging for me. But what I would in theory

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<v Speaker 1>say is, well, there is a conviction and there is

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<v Speaker 1>a sentence, right, and that's not nothing, because there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that would for her to have

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<v Speaker 1>no sentence at all. These people are blindly supportive of police.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the people that subscribe to the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>police have like the most dangerous job of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm not saying it's not a dangerous job, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you look up the numbers, delivering postmates is a

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<v Speaker 1>more dangerous job than being a police officer. You can

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<v Speaker 1>look those up yourself, right. So these people that have

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that police should be revered and held to

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<v Speaker 1>a standard that the rest of us mere mortals. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's unfair to I guess, afford police

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<v Speaker 1>almost infinite forgiveness. They don't even they're not even held

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<v Speaker 1>to the same type of stand They're given the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of the doubt to the nth degree in every single circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the victim is black, they often try

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<v Speaker 1>to criminalize the victim as much as they possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>to further frame and further justify the black person's death right.

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<v Speaker 1>So because there are so many people who feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not nothing when there is a conviction, right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I would say in theory, but for this

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<v Speaker 1>one specifically, we said it on the show. You and

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<v Speaker 1>iq I said, I really really we took turns, but

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<v Speaker 1>this video we both had to watch, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said you provided her a lot more grace, yeah than

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<v Speaker 2>I then and then I will now, yeah, but that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm the optimist, yo, So I says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I really do think that was an accident

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<v Speaker 1>that really honestly looks like an accident. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>now that everything has come out in the wash, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people perhaps have come around to the idea that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that she did not mean to take his life. She

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<v Speaker 1>meant to taze him and it just didn't work out

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But as you pointed out on that episode

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<v Speaker 1>when we first discussed this, or maybe it's the second

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<v Speaker 1>time we discussed this, but as you pointed out on

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<v Speaker 1>that episode, there are consequences even when there are accidents

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just a regular person and you didn't expect

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<v Speaker 1>there to be consequences. Because she's not a regular person,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a police officer and therefore given the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt to the nth degree, and not held to

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<v Speaker 1>the same standards as the rest of us people in

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<v Speaker 1>this society. Somehow they're given more grace or more leniency,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've seen in her sentencing. Now, the reason we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking today we haven't touched on it yet is her

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<v Speaker 1>sentence was two years, and that is insulting by itself,

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<v Speaker 1>because she ended the life of a young man who

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<v Speaker 1>he was a father, he was you know, he's on

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<v Speaker 1>his way.

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<v Speaker 2>And she will only serve this part sixteen months of

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<v Speaker 2>actual incarceration that part. So she was convicted and found

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of these charges. By the way, first and second

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<v Speaker 2>degree manslaughter, she will do sixteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>So remember when I said it was insulting for two years,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it It's like the twisting of the knife.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, so what was his life worth? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that all his life was worth? You know, let's switch

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<v Speaker 1>it around. What if the officer was black and the

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<v Speaker 1>victim was a white woman. Oh, we may have seen

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<v Speaker 1>such an example.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we have. I know we have.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm asking for our listeners to ponder

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<v Speaker 1>this to understand how it feels when things like this

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<v Speaker 1>come back, and then we have to absorb them and

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<v Speaker 1>we have to make sense of them, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to not be so paranoid. We

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<v Speaker 1>as black men, you and are both black men, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out how to not be so paranoid

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<v Speaker 1>in our interactions with the world. You know, I hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the times, you know, there are white

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<v Speaker 1>folks and non black people that say, you know, black

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<v Speaker 1>people and Hispanic people, and where they always talk about race. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But here's another example of how race further defines our

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<v Speaker 1>reality because race shapes our outcomes and ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>may have not even conceived of, and it's normal for us.

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<v Speaker 1>You said yourself to that you were not surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>the sentence right now.

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<v Speaker 2>On the heels of the even the reduction of the sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that was a sentence reduction, a light sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that sentence being reduced for less time. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't shocked by any of it. I think there's another

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<v Speaker 2>point here. As the judge was reading the sentence, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she echoed that, you know, there's a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 2>called copaganda, right. I think this started like in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies where or maybe a little bit earlier no dragnet,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it was like the sixties or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw this recently where.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens is the police sort of got in cahoots

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<v Speaker 1>with the film industry because the film industry wanted some realism, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they leaned on the police to help us make

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<v Speaker 1>these stories feel real. Give us some stories that we

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<v Speaker 1>can tell, you know, that sort of thing, give us

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<v Speaker 1>intimate details that will captivate and grip our viewers, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And in exchange, the police wanted to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>approve scripts and approve you know, visuals and that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing before they made it their way to air.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what you have is this relationship early on

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<v Speaker 1>that morphed into what ultimately has come to influence the

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<v Speaker 1>way many people view the police, certainly people that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to interact with the police. I read a statistic

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<v Speaker 1>the other day that seventy five percent of people have

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<v Speaker 1>zero police interaction on it in a given year. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Of that twenty five percent, how many do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of those folks are black? Of that seventy five percent,

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<v Speaker 1>how many do you think are non black?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see that? Math is easy?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, right, and so I'll continue. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of people whose only interaction with

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<v Speaker 1>police is what they see on TV, and a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>amount of people whose interactions with police is largely in

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<v Speaker 1>real time, and the people in their environment, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're oh, such and such got beat up by

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<v Speaker 1>the cops or such and such, you know, dirty cops,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know cops shooting at people, cops you know,

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<v Speaker 1>abusing and bullying and victimizing or whatever it is the

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<v Speaker 1>police do. You have two different views of police, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you end up with a divided America where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are really pro police.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about the judge as she read the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence for Kim Potter, she broke down. You could hear

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<v Speaker 1>it in her voice. That was bizarre, Yeah, And she

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to echo that sentiment that that copaganda. The

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<v Speaker 1>police have such a tough time and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>make split second decisions. But listen, if I'm driving a car, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to make a split second decision and

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<v Speaker 1>I make the wrong one and I end up crack

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<v Speaker 1>wishing and someone loses a life, you know, they might

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<v Speaker 1>say reckless endangerment. They might say man, slider and man

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<v Speaker 1>for someone to give me, you know, a sentence like this,

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<v Speaker 1>for ending a life of a human being. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to live his full life. It was taken. He

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<v Speaker 1>has no more days. His story ended. He's forever going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a I believe he was twenty four years old,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get to see his grandchildren, doesn't have more children,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get to see his dreams come true. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the chance over taser, taser, taser, bam, bam.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead, death permanent. There wouldn't have been multiple trigger pulls

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<v Speaker 2>for a taser, folks. Just by the way, in case

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<v Speaker 2>anybody was wondering.

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<v Speaker 3>But watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and did you know she was the person responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for training the other police officers. Yes, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it with the taser and a gun sit

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<v Speaker 1>on opposite. But it's okay. It was a mistake. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to kill the guy. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that say all lives matter, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course they're not wrong. I think the intent behind

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<v Speaker 1>that message, I just wish they meant it, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish the intent behind that message was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less adversarial, and you know whatever, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind.

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<v Speaker 3>That you're saying it. I just wish you meant it

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<v Speaker 3>instead of never mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're one of those people or you know

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<v Speaker 1>those people, those people often say all lives matter in

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<v Speaker 1>response to people like us saying black lives matter. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like we don't need to say that because

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<v Speaker 1>naturally all lives matter. This is an argument that they

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<v Speaker 1>make right. But the reason that we say black lives matter,

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<v Speaker 1>a new reason is this story we're talking about now.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you tell me that in a society where

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<v Speaker 1>manslaughter is a punishable offense right and a judge has

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<v Speaker 1>to consider the circumstances and so forth, that the judge

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<v Speaker 1>would cry while sentencing this woman and then take her

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<v Speaker 1>two year sentence and reduce it further insulting while the

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<v Speaker 1>mother stood there. Mother's white too, but the.

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<v Speaker 3>Son was black.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me cry for them, or the person who not

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<v Speaker 2>for the mother, for the officer, but for the officer

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<v Speaker 2>that killed the mother's son. Let me cry for her right,

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<v Speaker 2>because man, she must be going through so much, you see.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why we say black lives matter. And

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<v Speaker 1>the size of the smile on officer Potter's face. If

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<v Speaker 1>you guys see her in her in her prison orange

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<v Speaker 1>with this big, lovely smile on her face. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were if you saw that picture and you were wondering

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<v Speaker 1>why she appeared to be so happy, she just learned

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<v Speaker 1>she's not even doing a year and a half for

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<v Speaker 1>killing someone. Now, far be it from us to intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>make something sound more sinister or more intentional that it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We are stating facts, and of course we have the

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<v Speaker 1>filter of feelings and emotions, you know, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to absorb this. But that's not something that we can

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<v Speaker 1>really ignore. That smile is like the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it in her world, and from her perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>she really feels it was an accident. She really feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she resigned from being a cop. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do that, you know, whatever. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>she was really sorry. I'd imagine that's true. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be a human and see the human right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that smile is hurtful, That judge crying is hurtful,

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<v Speaker 1>that sentence is hurtful. And then how in the world

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<v Speaker 1>do we grow up ourselves and raise our children in

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<v Speaker 1>the world where black lives matter if everything tells us

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>If all the evidence is to the contrary.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So that's why we have to say we seem

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<v Speaker 1>like liars listening talking to our sons.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a I have.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those huge vinyl banners in my garage and

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<v Speaker 1>it says black Lives Matter on it, and whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>come home into my garage, it says it right there,

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<v Speaker 1>black like huge, right, And I see it every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and my.

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<v Speaker 3>Son see it every day. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they never hear it, and they never you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing ever comes their way where they know, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if the whole world tells them otherwise, when they come

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<v Speaker 1>here to Daddy's home. I also have another sign. This

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<v Speaker 1>says Daddy's home in the garage, but when they come here,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll say black lives matter. And for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, support, you know, the efforts in the

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<v Speaker 1>plight of black and brown people and who understand that

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<v Speaker 1>black lives matter. Is not meant to be antagonistic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not meant to suggest a black lives matter more or

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<v Speaker 1>less than anyone else. It's just meant to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we our lives have value, and we're entitled

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<v Speaker 1>to some dignity, and we should not be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>be slaughtered in the street for no reason, or certainly

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<v Speaker 1>before we had our day in court with impunity.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who understand that and have not

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<v Speaker 1>hidden behind, you know, a false into patriotism in a

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<v Speaker 1>thin veneer of you know, humanitarianism or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We salute you and we thank you because we recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of those other people really just we

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<v Speaker 1>see it. We know it's racism, and they just have

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<v Speaker 1>a way to be racist and have it not appeared

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<v Speaker 1>outwardly racist by saying things like, well, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>lives matter, we know what it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on now, stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not to say black people can't do that too,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are black people that don't like black people,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are black people that try their best to

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<v Speaker 1>separate themselves and create some distance from their actual blackness socially,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they will say things that are very much

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<v Speaker 1>anti black because they feel like it gets them closer

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<v Speaker 1>to being non black. A lot of times you'll find

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of self hatred in those people, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>also sad. Sometimes they know, sometimes they don't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about a lot of those folks on the

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<v Speaker 1>show too, So let me continue here. Yeah, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend sixteen months behind bars. The remaining time

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<v Speaker 1>will be on supervised release. I forgot about this. And

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, she's going to have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>a one thousand dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather there be no fine at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That hurts, right, it's insult or rather it be no

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<v Speaker 2>fine at all, one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And then again, according to the article here, the sentence

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<v Speaker 1>is significantly less than the seven years prosecutors had suggested.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we talked about Derek, we talked about the killer

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<v Speaker 1>of George Floyd and his sentence. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give these killers too much in the way of recognition

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<v Speaker 1>on this show because we try to uplift black name.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to say their names, and we like to

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<v Speaker 1>get it right and that sort of thing. So the

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>man who kneeled on the neck of George Floyd, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe his sentence was like twenty two and a half years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which again a lot of people wanted more, right, because

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 1>he killed that man slowly, intentionally, it was deliberate, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was at no point did he looked like he

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<v Speaker 1>was taking pleasure in it. You know, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>do something for eight minutes that's physical unless you enjoy

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>it to some degree, especially when we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I don't exercise because it's whack. But there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of people that wanted him to have

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<v Speaker 1>a much longer sentence. And I remember saying on that day, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a lot of people wanted. But let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be fair. Twenty two and a half years is

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<v Speaker 1>not zero. It might not be the win that we wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's certainly not a loss because we knew how

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<v Speaker 1>this could have gone. He could have just walked out

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<v Speaker 1>of there, right, And so I will say again this one,

0:23:54.600 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>admittedly is a lot more difficult to say, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a conviction, and for better or worse, it is

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<v Speaker 1>forever documented in the annals of history in this country

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<v Speaker 1>that for this woman taking the life of this black man,

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<v Speaker 1>the courts agreed that it was wrong for her to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, because she could have walked away. They said

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<v Speaker 1>it was wrong, and they did punish her. And listen, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a son who will be twenty four soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't look too dissimilar from Dante. You know that that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I can feel. I was twenty four not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago myself. So they said it was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did punish her. So, but that sentence for

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<v Speaker 1>that crime is almost not punishment. Well that's a fair

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>statement to make. But here we are and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with it, and we I appreciate you for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess we'll just leave it right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick around your radios.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming back with more cific cipher right after this