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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, You're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. This is the official Colts podcast, giving

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Speaker 1: you an updated look at what's new with the horseshoes.

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Speaker 1: Just gets off the tailor, he said, touch down? D

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Speaker 1: into the Antony throws might go Pittman touch down. Let's

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Speaker 1: Lara overtson here today. I'm Matt Taylor, JJ Stang Events

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Speaker 1: is still on vacation. Some R and R Casey and Lara.

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Speaker 1: How was your week off? Casey? What you get into?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? What didn't I get into? I mean, we did.

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Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned to this. We did a holiday world,

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Speaker 1: to me there are gonna be a lot of unknown

427
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Speaker 1: if you put out Julian Blackman, who you know hasn't

428
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Speaker 1: yet had a full healthy season, just because he had

429
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Speaker 1: to start his rookie season late coming off of the

430
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: ACL injury, and then his second year was shortened. So

431
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Speaker 1: you may want the opportunity to ease him in a

432
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Speaker 1: little bit, and you want Nick Cross to maybe get

433
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Speaker 1: some time next to a guy like a Rodney McCleod

434
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Speaker 1: as you're working to bring him up, and then you

435
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Speaker 1: hope that you have those three guys kind of having

436
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Speaker 1: various opportunities to move around. I think what you want

437
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: if you're the Colts is you want to see that

438
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: that that selection and Nick Cross is ready to go. Yeah.

439
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think in a perfect I mean you've

440
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: got Rodney McLeod. He out plays the fact that he

441
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: hasn't ever appeared. I think that's what you're looking for.

442
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: You you look and you want to make you want

443
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Speaker 1: to justify that selection because there was that was one

444
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: of those picks that was almost like a bonus. I

445
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: mean they traded back in because they're like, we've got

446
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a guy that is ready to go.

447
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: You want to justify that. So I think that's a

448
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: reason exactly. And so I think that's what you want

449
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Speaker 1: to see. So in a perfect world, I think if

450
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Speaker 1: you asked the staff, they would say, yes, Week one,

451
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: we want Julian Blackman and Nick Cross starting. But I

452
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: don't think you're at all detriment if you have Rodney

453
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: McLoud and Julian Blackman starting with Nick Cross getting role

454
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: for sure? All right, position battle number three, Larra, Who's

455
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: in line to fill out the defensive line rotation? We

456
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: know the starters, right, We've got Quitty pay DeForrest Buckner,

457
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: All Pro Player, Pro Bowl player, Grover Stewart one of

458
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: the more underrated nose tackles defensive tackles and All Football,

459
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: and then Unique and Gokway who has fifty five and

460
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: a half career sacks at least eight sacks and each

461
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: of the last six seasons. But who's in line to

462
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: fill out the depth along the defensive line? And I

463
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: guess this is really not a position battle, which again

464
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Speaker 1: I preface with at the beginning of this conversation that

465
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: the defense, in terms of the starters, it's pretty much

466
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: ready to go. There's not a lot of uncertainty there.

467
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: But who are the depth pieces they're going to fill

468
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: out that eight man rotation, if you will. The Colts

469
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: like to use along a defensive wine. I think first

470
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: and foremost, I go with Case's lad I'm just like,

471
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm like stretched out here in the serio. I think

472
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: to me, like it starts with like the guarantee is Diodango,

473
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: Like I just see. To me, he's that's a given

474
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw him in there. Um, I'm interested to

475
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: see come training camp where Tai Kwan Lewis is in

476
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: his injury recovery. He has spent an immense amount of

477
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: time back in the training room. He has been diligent.

478
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: He went back to North Carolina and did some workouts

479
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: there for a couple of weeks. Took one of the

480
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: trainers you know, with him to be able to work

481
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: out and do some things, some individual work over there. So, um,

482
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: I know that he has put in an immense amount

483
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: of time. I do think that Chris Ballard is really

484
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: high on wanting to see Tai Kwan get that opportunity,

485
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: and I think he's really working hard to be sure

486
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: he is in that conversation. So you know, those are

487
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: those two. My biggest X factor is how does Ben

488
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Banagi walk into camp? What does he look like when

489
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: he comes in, Where is he where is he working?

490
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Where does he fit within this scheme? Because last year

491
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: at this time of year, we saw him getting healthy

492
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: reps in training camp and then it just never really

493
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: came to fruition come to season. So that's one of

494
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: those guys who you're gonna have a lot of competition

495
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: with some newer guys, with some young guys who are

496
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: there upfront, So where does he fit into that conversation.

497
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: I think that versatility between Dio and Tai Kwon really

498
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: help in that depth because they can play kind of,

499
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, multiple positions on the line. And then I'm

500
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: really intrigued with Chris Williams. He's a guy that last

501
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: year during camp showed some promise, you know, because of

502
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: the depth they had a year ago, there wasn't really

503
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: too much opportunity for him to get a lot of play.

504
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: But some of those guys are gone, and then you

505
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: got the youngsters and Curtis Brooks, and I'm really excited

506
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: to see what him and Eric Johnson can bring. So

507
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: there's there's quite a bit of depth there. I'm in.

508
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see kind of how it shuffles out

509
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: because Taekwon and Dio really kind of they almost each

510
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: are two different players because he could play him inside

511
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: and out, so that that gives you a lot of

512
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: versatility when it comes. You know, when you mentioned Curtis

513
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: Brooks and Eric Johnson, those were two guys who despite

514
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: the fact that they're the younger guys among this conversation

515
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: incredibly mature in conversations that we had with both of them,

516
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: didn't walk in giving you that sense of there was

517
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: no like rookie presence about him, like very muture, very poised,

518
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: like coming in with with a little something to prove.

519
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Especially I know Curtis Brooks, that was a huge thing

520
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: for him, you know, he really wanted to put yeah, yeah.

521
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: And one of the things I mean, I remember talking,

522
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Speaker 1: you know, listening to the right now, I'm blanking on

523
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati's head coach's name, Luke Luke Fickle. When he

524
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: was talking about who the defensive MVP of their team was,

525
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: he Mentionedis Brooks. They had a guy who was taken

526
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: third overall, right, Sauce Garner was third or fourth overall,

527
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: and he said, Curtis Brooks. So there's something there that

528
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: I'm really kind of anxious to see what happens when

529
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: training camp rolls around with those Casey through Sauce Gardner,

530
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: which is I feel like a little a little indication

531
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: of a conversation we're gonna have a little later, right,

532
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: some Sauces, we are going to have a sauce conversation.

533
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: A little bit te city, right nicely, yeah, right, all right,

534
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: So that's a look at the top position battles. On defense,

535
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: we just talked about the defensive line who fills out

536
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: and backs up players like DeForrest Buckner and Unique and Gackway.

537
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: We talked about Quitti pay a little bit as well.

538
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: And a few weeks ago he took part in NFL Africa.

539
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: He returned to his home continent for the first time

540
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: since he was just a little infant and joined three

541
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: other active NFL African players and three former African players

542
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: and they held a camp. It was held in Ghana,

543
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: and it featured forty players from a ross Africa, and

544
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: the players who stood out were invited to the NFL's

545
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: International Combine and excuse me, the NFL's International Pathway program

546
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: as well, and could earn an opportunity to attend the

547
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: NFL Academy in London. So his story obviously is well

548
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: chronicled around draft time last year, when the Colts picked

549
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: him up in the first round. For those that forgot,

550
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: he was born in Guinea after his mother fled her

551
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: native country in Liberia during the Liberian Civil War. Pay

552
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: his mother and older brother immigrated to Rhode Island about

553
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: six months after pay was born, and from there his

554
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: mother just continued to make all kinds of sacrifices to

555
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: get Quitty recruited to a football scholarship to Michigan and

556
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: that ultimately led him to the NFL. And a few

557
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, Lara and I talked with Quitty about this

558
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: event NFL Africa, how it came about for him and

559
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: his eagerness to jump at the chance to grow the

560
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: game internationally. So take a listen. I think I'm very

561
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: proud and in tune of where I come from, being

562
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: librarian and being African. So I felt like I felt

563
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: like the NiFi Africa people that felt as if, you know,

564
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: that's somebody that we definitely is sack on the trip,

565
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: and when they're presented it to me, at first, I

566
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: can't lie. I was a little hesitant because I was like,

567
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of training or whatever. But the opportunity seemed

568
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: so great that I couldn't pass up on it. So

569
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I made that choice to go.

570
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: And it was a great experience, of course, not only

571
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: to further the game of football and to interact be

572
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: very hands on in teaching these kids about the game itself,

573
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: but how impactful was it to you because of your

574
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: heritage to be able to go back and experience the

575
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: culture itself. It was great to go back and really

576
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: be with the people, to present different opportunities that they

577
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: didn't know existed, and to be with those younger kids

578
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: when we were playing with them and whatnot. They were

579
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: just so excited to learn more about the sport because

580
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: they play soccer over there, and soccer and like rugby

581
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: and other sports like that, so American football was so

582
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: new to them and you can just see how eager

583
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: they were. They were having fun out there playing, and

584
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: then with the older kids, they just saw the opportunity

585
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: that football can present. And you know, even if it's

586
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: not playing an NFL, they can do well enough to

587
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: go get a free education somewhere someone wants to pay

588
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: for their school to have them can play for their teams. So, yeah,

589
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: that was just a great experience all around. How many

590
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: days did you get to spend and what were those days, like,

591
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: how many of those were really doing kind of on

592
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: field work, and then how much of those were able

593
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: to maybe tour around and experience the local culture or

594
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, interact with the local people. I'm sure have

595
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: some fantastic meals and different do different things like that.

596
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: So I think the first three days or the first

597
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: two days, I was with the older guys that we

598
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: were looking for NFL prospects. So with the first camp day,

599
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: we kind of walked them through the combined drows that

600
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: they'd be doing and then our d line work that

601
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: we'd be doing before we go to one on ones

602
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: and competing. So the first two days that's kind of

603
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: what we did. The second day was the live day,

604
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: so that's when we jotted down all the times and

605
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: measurements and everything like that and they got to you know, compete,

606
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: go at it for a little bit. And between um

607
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: we did some cultural stuff. We went to Kake Coast

608
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: um where where the slaves were taken from Ghana, which

609
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: was a big port in the trans transatlantic slave trade,

610
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: and we learned a lot about that. You know, it

611
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: was great for us to experience that um. As we

612
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: were walking through, there was a plaque on the wall

613
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: that said Michelle Obama and Barack Obama had went to

614
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: visit it because they figured out that that's where their

615
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: ancestors were from and they had to. They felt the

616
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: need to go back and you know, learn about where

617
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: they're from. And yet it was just it was a

618
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: great experience all around. Hey, Quitty, I know this was

619
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: your your first time back in Africa since your mother

620
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: made those those great sacrifices to move your family here

621
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: to the United States. How was that for you in

622
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: terms of emotions and feelings knowing what she went through

623
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: to help make this life possible. Um, it was. It

624
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: was great to be back in West Africa and to

625
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, be with the people. But UM, I think

626
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I would really feel it, like really feel connected and

627
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: emotional when I go back to Liberia, where a lot

628
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: of my family are at. I didn't really get to know. Um.

629
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: One of my cousins was there. One of our family

630
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: friends was there who kind of he lives in Gona

631
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: now because during the war, a lot of the people

632
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: from Liberia sp across West Africa and that's where they

633
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: kind of rooted down and that's where they lived. So

634
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: he came up for the last year of the fan

635
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: Zone events and I was able to connect with him,

636
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: and then um, because Mom, I was able to connect

637
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: with her, and it was it was great, But I

638
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: feel like, once I go back to Libraria, that's when

639
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: I really feel, you know, I feel emotional, I feel

640
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I remember my mom with me. It would be a

641
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: great time. Doing research on the NFL Africa program looked

642
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: up that it's really interesting, more than a hundred players

643
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: of African descent that's either born in Africa or first

644
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: generation born in the US. That's a huge number, a

645
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: huge figure for those playing within the NFL. And one

646
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: of the guys who you were participating in this program

647
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: with is a guy with Indianapolis ties went to Cathedral

648
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: Mathias Kiwanuka won Super Bowls with the Giants. How much

649
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: of this is a testament to the investment that the

650
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: NFL is making in not only growing the game, but

651
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: also making sure that that active players are able to

652
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: have connections not just with the teams, with the organizations

653
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: they're currently playing in in those communities, but also with

654
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: the communities of their heritage as well. Yeah about the

655
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: NFL for doing something like this, allowing us to go

656
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: back and represent the country, you know, and for them

657
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: to recognize how many African players they have in the league,

658
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: and you know, just to try to give other people

659
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: an opportunity to kind of live the way how we're living,

660
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: playing a game that we love, and you know, presenting

661
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: different opportunities, and yeah, it's it was great for us

662
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 1: to all go back, and I feel like it's gonna

663
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: make a lot more Africans to be proud of who

664
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: you are. Who was having conversations on the trip growing up,

665
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of us were saying, yeah, growing up,

666
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: everyone didn't want to be African. They were making fun

667
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: of Africans and they you know, it wasn't the most

668
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: popular thing to be African. But now a lot more

669
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: people are trying to, you know, learn where they're from,

670
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: learning their roots. A lot more Africans in the league.

671
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: Now I wear my Liberian culture on my sleeve. Everybody

672
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: knows them Liberian. I feel like a lot more people

673
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: are tapping into their culture and you know, presenting it

674
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: to the world, and that's that's what we really want.

675
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like the NFL is doing a great

676
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: job of, you know, trying to respect that. It seems

677
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: like you had just so many incredible experiences over there

678
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: was there one interaction or one relationship in particular that

679
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: really was the most impactful or something that really resonated

680
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: with you that you carry with you now is you've

681
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: kind of come back and you're starting to get into

682
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: more of your routine before you turn your focus to

683
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: training him and getting into the season. You know what. Um,

684
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: it was actually after the camp days we had, we

685
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: had a good experience with the campers. We knew a

686
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: lot of them came from not best not the best backgrounds,

687
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: kind of struggling and whatnot. But it was actually when

688
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I was leaving the airport, I was kind of having

689
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: trouble getting through and there's something wrong with my passport

690
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: or my ticket or something like that. So we're trying

691
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And there was a guy that

692
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: worked at the airport and he was just helping me

693
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: out and like how to wrap some stuff, and he

694
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: was paying for a lot of the stuff for me

695
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: to get through, and I didn't really ask him to

696
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: do that, but he was able to do anyways. And

697
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: then we're just chatting, we're just talking it up, and

698
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: then he was like, yeah, no, it's very hard here

699
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: and Africa and Ghana, you know a lot of like

700
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: and their money is seven dollars to our one dollars,

701
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: so it's very hard for them. So some of them

702
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: making the like twenty six cents a day, and I

703
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: really resignated with me And that's when I was there,

704
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: I really wanted to go and go back and start

705
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: my own academy, start to help my own people in Liberia,

706
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: and speaking with some of the people there, I initially

707
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: wanted to go back and do food drives and give

708
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: back clothes or whatever, but then they were like, go

709
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: there and ask people what they actually need. Most of

710
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: them don't really need clothes and food. They need schools

711
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: and need hospitals, and need teachers. They need educators. They

712
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: need people to uplift the country in a way, not

713
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: just giving them handouts, because you give them handouts over

714
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: right now and then they'll need more. They need a

715
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: way to provide for themselves. And that kind of achieved

716
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: my perspective on how I can help with what I

717
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: want to do in the future. That's incredible perspective and

718
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: so impactful to hear of those experiences and how that

719
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: motivated you and being able to see that firsthand, how

720
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: grateful did that just reinforce I know that you always are,

721
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: but for those sacrifices that your mom made for your family,

722
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: coming to the States, to create the opportunity and hopefully

723
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: to help open the eyes eventually of those whose lives

724
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: you impact through going back and just creating those further

725
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: opportunities that you hope that they can have as well. Yeah,

726
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: it was very I feel like it's very important for

727
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: me to go on this ship, even though I'm not

728
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: from Ghana's important for me to see how they were

729
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: really living because my mom has told me stories, but

730
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: I never really got to see firsthand of how hard

731
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: it is. You know, we just hear the stories of

732
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: it was hard. It was hard. Tell me a little

733
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: bit and I would feel it, but it wasn't really

734
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. Once you get to see, once

735
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: she gets to live with it, then you can you

736
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: can really understand. So for me to see that, you know,

737
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: I just apply every time I see something like that,

738
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: I just apply my mom even more because she was

739
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: doing getting the thick of it in the middle of

740
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: a civil war with two children and really struggling. So

741
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: I just have even more respect for her, and every

742
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: time I I just want to take care of her

743
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Every time I see stuff like that, Quitty,

744
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: I know that you know this is gonna be a

745
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: tough question to answer because you know, like you said,

746
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: you went back to Africa for the first time not

747
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: that long ago, but you know from from where you're

748
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: from your roots. You know from Liberia. You know the

749
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: president is a former soccer star. Obviously, you know, the

750
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: continent of Africa really really big into soccer in terms

751
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: of athletics. Where where does football rank? How popular I

752
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: should say, is football in Africa? Where does it rank

753
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: compared to soccer? And how are you seeing the game grow?

754
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: So American football is really nonexistent in West Africas feel

755
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: like they're trying to m That's why I flued the

756
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: NFL for trying to do something like this to expand

757
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: the game and get more people to know about the

758
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: sport because it's a different route better than their family's life.

759
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: So I flued the NFL for doing that. And I

760
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: feel as if when I do stuff in Liberia, a

761
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: lot of would want to do soccer and I could

762
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: open I can try to do a soccer or academy

763
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: or something along those lines, but I definitely want to

764
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: present different opportunities because of soccer doesn't work. Are people

765
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: not really good at soccer? They could try a different

766
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: sport and or try another sport. Just try to broaden

767
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: the horizon as far as like what people can actually do.

768
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: And with OC he had a couple of academies and

769
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: the UK, and that's where a lot of the kids

770
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: that we chose from the camp that we felt as

771
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: if had the most potential set them said. They chat

772
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: and let them learn more about the game so they can,

773
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, come to the States, either go to college

774
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: here or go through the International Player Pathway. I was

775
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: just gonna say, that's what's really interesting, Quitty. Until we

776
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: got into this conversation, I didn't realize how much you

777
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: guys were doing from a scouting perspective of those who

778
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: are heavily involved already in football and the tie with

779
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: the International Player Pathway program. I thought it was just

780
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: more so young kids camp introducing them to the game itself,

781
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: with the fundamentals the elementary level of football. So that's

782
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: incredibly interesting to me. I think from the perspective of

783
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: one evaluating those guys who are at a very competitive level,

784
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: what stood out about the caliber of talent that you

785
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: were able to scout and view? And then for the youngsters,

786
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: what did you notice about them? What did they pick

787
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: up on really quickly, or just what did they enjoy

788
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: so much about the games? When you're interesting when you

789
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: are interacting with two opposite ends kind of the spectrum,

790
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: those who were just learning the game and then those

791
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: who've had some times and who show great potential in it.

792
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: So for us, the first thing I stood out to

793
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: me off the bat was as we were presenting As

794
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: we were presenting um, as we were going through the

795
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: first day, introducing ourselves to the to the prospects, I'm

796
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: looking around the room. I'm like, the average heightening here

797
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: is like six five, Like they're all extremely good sized,

798
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: Like there were there were a seventeen year old kid

799
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: named Clinton who we thought we had great potential. I

800
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: think we tried to get him into them and to

801
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the academy. He was like six ten, like really long arms,

802
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: And I'm all right, so all these kids have really

803
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: good size. We got on the field and then we're

804
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: seeing eleven foot broad jumps, We're seeing thirty eight inch verticals,

805
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, all these kids have extreme amount

806
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: of potential, Like you get them to play the game

807
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: for enough time, like like it's gonna be crazy. And

808
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: I can see a lot, a lot of defensive ends

809
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: and whatnot coming through because they're all twitchy, they're all explosive,

810
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: they're all aggressive, long arms, like everything that you want

811
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 1: a defensive end. That's what I saw all at the camps.

812
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: I was really excited to see how see how they progress.

813
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I know it's very new, it's a very new sport

814
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: to them, but they were picking it up well, and

815
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: they're very attentive and they were trying to pick up

816
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: all that they could. And then with the kids, um,

817
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: the NFL is trying to grow the game more and

818
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, start at a younger level so they can

819
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: grow up. Playing gets to them when they get to

820
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: that age when when they started jumping at thirty thirty eight, introverts,

821
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: they can already have knowledge of the game and you know,

822
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: once they start to get really explosive and whatnot, though,

823
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: they'll w well off. Hey, twitty, last one for me.

824
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I know. You know, it's a long trip. It takes

825
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: a lot out of you. And you're gearing up for

826
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: the start of training camp. What's the rest of your

827
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: summer look like? How are you balancing you know, getting

828
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks in terms of rest and

829
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: relaxation and making sure you're enjoying the summer before the

830
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: grind starts. But also you know, working out and making

831
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: sure that you hit the ground running at the start

832
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: of camp in Westfield at Graham Park. Just what does

833
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: the rest of your summer in terms of training and

834
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: balance look like the rest of the way. So I'm

835
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: actually out here in Oklahoma. I was training before I

836
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: went to Ghana because I didn't want to go to

837
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: Ghana and then come back and try to get into shape.

838
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: So I was training before, like right after OTE was over.

839
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: I was training on Monday and trained a week, and

840
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: then I went to Ghana for a week out there,

841
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: and then once I came back, they back to training.

842
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: So try to get it in as much as I can.

843
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm here in Oklahoma, wad Buck and Ben Banaghu and

844
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: you know a couple of other NFL guys across the NFL,

845
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, just just just trying to hit it. Just

846
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: trying to come back against the camp and full in

847
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: great shape and you know, try to have a great

848
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: year this year, being really attentive in my technique and

849
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: I have all the physical traits of just I have

850
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: to just bump it up just a little bit as

851
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: far as what I'm looking at playing and just being prepared.

852
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: How much more comfortable are you? I mean going into

853
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: year two? I mean this is this is old hat

854
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: now compared to where you were a year ago. Yeah,

855
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm way more comfortable. Even towards the end of last year,

856
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: I started to get super comforable. That's why I felt

857
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: like I was really hitting my stride. Yeah, end of

858
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: last one, I went on that little run with um

859
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: all those sacks. But just washing film this year, I'm

860
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get back on the field because

861
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: like just just how just how I wasn't OTAs from

862
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: this year and last year. I could just feel the difference,

863
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to make that big year two jump,

864
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna be crazy. Indeed, Hey, thanks so

865
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: much for the time. It's great to talk to you.

866
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: Really appreciate you shedding some light on your trip NFL

867
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: Africa and everything they're trying to do to grow the

868
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: game internationally. Quitty, thanks again and best let the rest

869
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: of the summer and we'll see us soon up at

870
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Grand Park. Thank you guys for having me. That's Quiddy

871
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: pay conversation from a few weeks ago, Layer Overton and

872
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: I had in his evolvement with NFL Africa, and when

873
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: you hear that conversation, Lara, he's just I mean, it's

874
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: the off season for him. He could be doing a

875
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: million different things. He could be getting his mind right,

876
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: his body right for camp, and he is doing those things,

877
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have to do what he just did

878
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: in terms of going halfway across the world to help

879
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: grow the game and to give back. He's beyond mature,

880
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: he's beyond wise for someone that's twenty two, twenty three

881
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: years old, And like we talked about a few weeks ago,

882
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: I think he's in a position to take the biggest

883
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: leap production wise from twenty twenty one to two twenty

884
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: two on this defense because of just that natural growth

885
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: and the presence of DeForest, Buckner and Unique and Gatway

886
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: completely agree, and also the fact that you know he

887
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: has been candid a little bit more so this offseason

888
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: about how much that hamstring injury hampered him over the

889
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: course of this season. That was I believe Week three

890
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: where he sustained that kind of injury, and although he

891
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: played through it, it was nagging for a good part

892
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: of the season finally started coming on on the latter

893
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: part of this season. And when you mentioned obviously he's

894
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: spending the time training you know, physically and getting you know,

895
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: getting his body ready to make that leap that we anticipate.

896
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: He's also a guy who stays sharp by doing a

897
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: wealth of other things and giving back and helping to

898
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, share his story and you know, as he mentioned,

899
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: use you know, football as a platform to help other

900
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: people gain the opportunities that he has been able to find.

901
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: He has just such a passion for that and it

902
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: is so cool to see him so quickly embrace this

903
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: opportunity that he has had, not just within the Indianapolis community,

904
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: not just you know, with his hometown in Rhode Island

905
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: and you know with the University of Michigan community that

906
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: he often goes back and does things up there as well,

907
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: but this is an international experience that he is having.

908
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, he is just all around like a fascinating

909
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: figure and an incredible human being. Oh also he's a

910
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: hell of a football player. And so it's just I mean,

911
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: he is one of those guys who I find like

912
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: he's going to be like this global ambassador for the

913
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: game and someone who I think, you know you certainly

914
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: anticipate to'll have ton immense success on the football field

915
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: for a long long time, but even after that will

916
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: continue to be someone who has a great impact beyond football.

917
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Well said right there. Thanks to Quitty pay for giving

918
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: us his time in the offseason when he doesn't have to.

919
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: But it was good catching up with him, and we'll

920
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: see he and his defensive mates in a couple of

921
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: weeks up at Graham Park for the start of training camp,

922
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: which will begin on July twenty seventh as the first

923
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: day of practice up in Graham Park noon. And again

924
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: for all the information on campcolts dot com slash camp.

925
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to the mail bag real quick. Here's the

926
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: mail at never fils and makes me want my tail

927
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: all right. The mailbag submission this week comes from Terry

928
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Nance on Twitter. Do you think we'll see Mike Stron

929
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: get involved this year? That answers yes. Has there been

930
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: any word about him running with the ones? Casey Valier,

931
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: just what do you think in terms of the upside

932
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: Mike Stron. We've talked about this basically all off season long,

933
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: but it's a good question in terms of him running

934
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan. Do you think we'll see him early

935
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: on with the first team offense up at Graham Park.

936
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's definitely possible. It's one of those

937
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: things that I think this is going to be the

938
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: ongoing discussion because it's been talked about at nauseum now

939
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: from the outside and media. When you look at this

940
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: receiver group, it's so young and it's there's really nothing.

941
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: You look at paper and there's not much there on

942
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: what they've done because of the youth. So there's a

943
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: lot of room for guys to make jumps. And one

944
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: of those guys is Mike Strown because you know, you

945
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: look at Michael Pittman, who's definitely a bona guy. You

946
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: saw what he did last year. You only anticipate him

947
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: to continue to make jumps. They did, you know, select

948
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce with a high draft choice there in the

949
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: second round, so you expect him to be a major

950
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: point of this offense. But then you have, you know,

951
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys that are kind of fighting

952
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: for other other spots. I mean, Paris Campbell. We know

953
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: the injury history. If he can stay healthy, there's a

954
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: lot of you know, promise there. But Mike Stron's definitely

955
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: in that mix. So it'll be very interesting to see

956
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: how he's utilized because he has some intangibles that just

957
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: other guys don't. I mean, he's got the size and

958
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to that red zone, I mean, he

959
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: could be so big in red zone opportunity. So it

960
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: may not be one of those things that you look

961
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: at him and go, he's definitely getting first team reps.

962
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: It's kind of where or he's getting Where is he

963
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: getting his reps? And that's where I am anxious to

964
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: see what happens at Graham Park. You read my mind,

965
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was going to say. Is it's situationally,

966
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: where is he coming in? Where is he mixing in

967
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: right among that rotation of Pierre Pittman, Paris Campbell, Ashton Dulan,

968
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: kind of where is he weaving his way in? Because

969
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: you do need you need that presence in the end zone,

970
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that he has the opportunity.

971
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: He's a guy who is perfectly suited to win the

972
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: one on one right, you know, like just think about

973
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: the red zone height that Matt Ryan could. I mean,

974
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: he could literally just throw the ball up and you've

975
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: got what five guys over six foot five? Yeah? I

976
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean that is man, that's that's gonna

977
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: be one of those things that Freddy Creich is just like,

978
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: I cannot wait till we get to the ten. Here

979
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: we go, right, I mean here we go on three turns? Right?

980
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: Does Gusmacker still exists? I asked that a while back

981
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: because we were watching. I was like, man, could you

982
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: imagine what this basketball team would look like? I was like,

983
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: is there a gust Macker going on? And there were

984
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: a couple of people looked at me, like what are

985
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: you talking about? I was like, he loved Gus Mack. Yeah.

986
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Used to dominate in some parking lot at I Upui

987
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: man come home with a couple of knee scrapes. I

988
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: never really did the domination, but I would watch others

989
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: dominate that for sure. The question is do you think

990
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: we'll see stron get involved this year? I think the

991
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: answer is yes, yeah. And in terms of being involved,

992
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: I want to see just how involved or lack thereof

993
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: he is on special teams. Yeah. If he's gonna make

994
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: the team, he's got to play on teams. And from

995
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: what I can remember, maybe you guys can help me

996
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: fill in the gaps a little bit, But we just

997
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: didn't see his involvement a ton last year in camp,

998
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: in the preseason on teams, No, you did not. So

999
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: that's definitely what I mean that we saw that early on.

1000
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: That was part of you know, he made the initial

1001
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: fifty three last year, he actually caught the first pass

1002
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: of the season, and then you saw everything kind of

1003
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, his role was you know, decreased a little bit,

1004
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: but you didn't see him get on the field and

1005
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: a lot of that was because of, you know, the

1006
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: lack of special teams play. Right. One of the things

1007
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 1: that's going to be most intriguing and hopefully we learned

1008
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: this when the Vets report to camp, is in this

1009
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: time that Matt Ryan has spent with the different little

1010
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: clusters of receivers, going all across the country to do so,

1011
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: how much time did he get with Michael Strong, did

1012
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: he get time with Michael Strond, How beneficial was it?

1013
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: What did Matt Ryan see Because you know there's gonna

1014
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: be a conversation between you know, Frank Reich and Marcus

1015
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: Brady and Matt Ryan, and Matt's gonna have you know this,

1016
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: Matt is as thorough of a guy as there is

1017
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: out there. He's going to kind of have a report

1018
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: on like what each of these sessions were like. So

1019
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: I think that is, to me, the big question that's

1020
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: out there is what chemistry has he been able to

1021
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: build with his quarterback with a new quarterback, because he's

1022
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: a completely different guy than what Strong was working with

1023
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: last year in the time that he did have with

1024
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz early on. In the end, I mean, bottom line,

1025
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: what it all boils down to, if you're gonna be

1026
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: the fifth or six wide receiver on this team in

1027
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: this offense, you gotta play on a team. Yeah, you

1028
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 1: have to. I mean, you just have to be able

1029
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: to do that. So yeah, it's how to Michael Harris

1030
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: and Fashion Doolan, Zach Pascal. I mean, we've seen that

1031
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of how these guys kind of make their mark.

1032
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: So that's definitely a path for sure that he has

1033
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: to get on involved. Absolutely all right, thank you Terry

1034
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: Nance for the submission on the Twitter question of the week.

1035
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to my random thought of the week and

1036
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: it's scary guys. So this of course just randomly popped

1037
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: in my head over the fourth of July. Shocker, somebody

1038
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: randomly popped into MAT's head. Right, So it's a big

1039
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: like grill out day, like we've talked about this, hot dogs, hamburgers,

1040
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: and with those types of foods, you want condiments, you

1041
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: want ketchup, you want mustard, you want relish, right, mayo? Whatever?

1042
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a restaurant and they give

1043
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: you cold condiments? Nope? So why do we put condiments

1044
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: at home in the refrigerator? Brilliant question? Do you like

1045
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: your condiments room temperature or refrigerator cold? So it's so

1046
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: funny because like for me, I'm not are like this

1047
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: is this is where my pickiness really gets me. Like

1048
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't do mustard, I don't do mayo, I don't

1049
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: do relish, I don't do sour cream. So I'm very

1050
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: limited on the condiments that I do. You but like ketchup,

1051
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: I put my ketchup in the fridge, but I'm thinking

1052
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: about that. I go to a restaurant, it sits out.

1053
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: But one thing that I don't like is I go

1054
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: somewhere and you get like let's see, you get a cheeseburger,

1055
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: you catch up on it and sometimes a ketchup is

1056
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: like really hot, and you're like, I just wish I

1057
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: would prefer to just put room temperature ketchup on it.

1058
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: But that's a great point. Why do we put it

1059
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: in the fridge? Like I don't know, like if you

1060
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: go if you go to a burger place or a

1061
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: casual restaurant, Let's say there's condiments on the table there

1062
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: and they're in the room temperature right now. I know

1063
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: some of those places, like they put them in the

1064
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: fridge the night before and they bring them out that

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00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: morning and put it but it's still there for twelve

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: to fifteen hours. So I don't know what that It

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00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. We need I need to phone

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00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: a friend and get Norma overton on this conversation. My grandma. No,

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00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Norma has very strong feelings about this because what's her number.

1070
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: So I remember we went through the Norma yeah, Norma, yeah, Norman.

1071
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: I went through the drive through when I was younger,

1072
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: and uh, we were getting fast food to take home. Okay,

1073
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: so I mean we're getting fast food, but we knew

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00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean five minutes away fro Us, right, and she's

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00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: like French fries. She we ordered whatever. She's like French

1076
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: fries and lots of ketchup. Do you need catch up? Yes,

1077
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: lots of ketchup. They give a catch up more ketchup

1078
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: right in the past, because yes, the packets. My grandma

1079
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: also yes. And my grandma's also a very strong Southern woman,

1080
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: so she is um very insistent on how she likes

1081
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: her services, you know. Uh So I'm like, why you

1082
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: have we have ketchup at home? Why do you need

1083
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: all this ketchup? And she's like, I can't do cold

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: ketchup on hot fries. She hates it. She can't. She

1085
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: does not want because your fries are hot, she doesn't

1086
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: want them to be cooled off by the cold condiments.

1087
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my gosh, I've never thought

1088
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: of this, And then like ever since then, I'm like,

1089
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm ever picking up food for her. I've got to

1090
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: get all the condiments. This is how it popped in

1091
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: my head is because my wife wants to put everything

1092
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: in the refrigerator, like barbecue sauce. I'm like, when this,

1093
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: when you use these things, the food in which you're

1094
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: using them on is hot, you've cooked it or you've

1095
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: grilled it. Why do you want to put cold on

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00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: the hot because on the bottle it says refrigerator after

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00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: you you're not always. I really don't think you need

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00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: to do. I agree with you. I think people just

1099
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: read it and many people are yelling at their podcast

1100
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: right now saying I'm throwing a challenge flag right now.

1101
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: Not always is it hot? Because what if you make

1102
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: like a turkey sandwich and you put like a mustard

1103
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: or a mayo, then it's cold your turkey. Your turkey

1104
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: is cold point like a sandwich. Yeah you've gotten may

1105
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: I get there a ham sandwich or something. I see

1106
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: what you mean, but I just think generally speaking, I mean,

1107
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: do you want hot miracle whip? I think I do

1108
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: not like cold condiments. There is a cabinet and our

1109
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: in our kitchen where it's just my condiments. I have

1110
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: your own, I have my own condumists go to the store.

1111
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: Matt Nechut. We had to break out podcasts. It's like

1112
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: relationship of a conversation. Man. Yeah, this has been good.

1113
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,959
Speaker 1: And why do all my random thoughts can they're all mood,

1114
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: all food. That's what I was about to say that

1115
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: literally every one of your random thoughts have been about

1116
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: most of most of them. Yes, there's a theme here.

1117
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: But yes, in my cabinet, I have my own mustard,

1118
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: my own barbecue sauce, two or three barbecue sauces. Ketchup

1119
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: has to be ketchup is non negotia interesting. It has

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00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: to be room temperature. That's funny because I I don't

1121
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: dislike room temperature ketchup, but I don't even think about

1122
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: it that I always put it in the frize. But

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00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: if you thinking about it, I'm dip warm fries with

1124
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: cold ketchup. Yeah. I might as well just stay hungry

1125
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: and hanging out. Yeah, you and Norma would get along.

1126
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: Grand you know my mom Speaking of condiments, My mom

1127
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: used to she doesn't so much anymore. She likes to

1128
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: dip her potato chips and ketchup. Oh that's great, really,

1129
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: it's potato good catch up good. Yes, but you know

1130
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: it's it's they're they're again, they're like room temperature. Yeah, yeah,

1131
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: I like a good like. See, I'm weird with some chips.

1132
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Like if I get ruffles, I have to have baked beans.

1133
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: Ruffles and baked beans. Oh it'll change your life. It'll

1134
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: change your life. You scoop baked beans. Oh yeah, with

1135
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: the chip Oh, it's so it's it's so funny. Like

1136
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: my mother in law, if we ever have either either

1137
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: pork and beans or baked beans, we sometimes you got

1138
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: a little pork in there or whatever. If we have

1139
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: any of those, She's always like, I made sure I

1140
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: picked up your ruffles too, so that you get and

1141
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you. Oh that's that is one

1142
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: of my weird quirks. Is I have to have baked

1143
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: beans with some ruffles. Oh that is good. I wonder

1144
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: what the big guy, what would Jim er say say

1145
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: about our condiment debate? We can ask him coming up

1146
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: because his collection is going up to Chicago on August

1147
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: the second. How about that for a team transition. Jim

1148
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: Orsay Collection is also coming to Indianapolis. The collection will

1149
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: make a stop at Lucas Oil Stadium September ninth and

1150
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: ten for the event will be open to the public.

1151
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: Tickets are free. Let me repeat that. Tickets are free,

1152
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: but you do have to have advanced registration. You have

1153
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: to pick up a free ticket in advance. You can

1154
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: do that online. You can follow the Jim Rsay Collection

1155
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: on Facebook and Twitter for all the details. As the

1156
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: event gets closer and it's going to be fantastic. Any

1157
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: questions on the earth, say collection young, those can go

1158
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Gorman would be eager to answer those for you,

1159
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: because you know, Jeffrey has been working on this a

1160
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: lot and traveling around and it is it's a Gorman's birthday.

1161
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: Say it's your birthday. You know when you hear that

1162
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: it's free and the amount of stuff that's going to

1163
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: be there then and then I don't know if you

1164
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: heard Matt Taylor and Jeffrey Gorman's teas, was it last

1165
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: week or the week before? On the last word of

1166
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: some of the people that could be joining the band, um,

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00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: I would I would suggest you go out and get

1168
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: your tickets for this event. I just hope they all

1169
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: show up. I do too, But I mean, he's I mean,

1170
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: who's coming to him Chicago? Ann Wilson, Anne Wilson, I mean,

1171
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? There's people, there's people that I

1172
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: think I know that I'm not allowed to say because

1173
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: it hasn't been uh confirmed just yet for the event

1174
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Same thing with the event here in Indianapolis.

1175
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: Once those things are finalized, they'll come out. But the

1176
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: potential list of stars that could play with the Jim

1177
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: er Say Collection Band is just astounding, especially if you

1178
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: like music, which we all do in this room. Uh.

1179
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: The fact that it's free once in a live time

1180
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: to see those people on stage together all the same time. Man,

1181
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable. It's unreal. I mean, I'm definitely going

1182
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: to be there for both days to see it. I mean,

1183
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: because it's one of those things that I might want

1184
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,439
Speaker 1: to just soak it in just me and then take

1185
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: the family and you know, hey, this is what I

1186
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: saw yesterday. But that's that's that's me. I don't know

1187
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: about you guys. Well, if you survive the river, then

1188
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: you can come to the Jim er Say Band back

1189
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: on this. Yeah, if you guys are still if you're

1190
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: still talking to one another that. Speaking of talking, we'll

1191
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: talk on the last Word. Coming up on Friday, we'll

1192
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: bust out the burning questions. We'll do that on the linebackers.

1193
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: We've done basically every position group up until the linebackers,

1194
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: so we'll do that on Friday. We'll also have a

1195
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: sit down with Bobby o'karaka heading into year number four,

1196
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: heading into a contract year, so we'll talk with him.

1197
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: The linebacker at of Stanford and our Colts Reunion podcast.

1198
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: This week features a sit down with former Colts defensive

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: back Marlon Jackson and all those great memories he had

1200
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl with the Colts, fantastic play he

1201
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: had in the AFC Championship Game to seal the win

1202
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: over Tom Brady and the Patriots, and the comeback win

1203
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: at the RCA Dome back in the day. So check

1204
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: that out on the Colts Audio Network. Guys, any parting

1205
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: shots you want to take before we go, comment to

1206
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: find us some more condiment or otherwise. Now, I think

1207
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: we've taken a lot of shots today. I think I

1208
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: think we're good now, no doubt about it. So that's

1209
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: it for today. We'll be back next Tuesday for another

1210
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: official Cold podcast. We'll talk about the players next week

1211
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: that need more hype, why are we not talking more

1212
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: about these guys heading into twenty twenty two? And we'll

1213
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: also make some bold predictions, so stay tuned for that

1214
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: coming up a week from today. As we take this

1215
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Thanks as always for rating, reviewing, and subscribing

1216
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Again for Casey Lara, I'm att JJ's

1217
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,439
Speaker 1: back next week. Have a great rest of this week.

1218
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: And we'll talk to you next Tuesday on the official

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01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: cults podcast, So Long,