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Speaker 2: Where are we going?

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Speaker 1: Shall we start with our big dogs? Let's you know

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Speaker 1: the way this works, Dan Rubinstein got four big games

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Speaker 1: at the Miami Hurricanes Stan Louisville. Yeah, you need like

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Speaker 1: a dedicated app to track this Miami quarterback situation right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't have they built it yet.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's Emery Williams or TVD. So, Emory Williams got

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Speaker 2: I think Miami fans are the ones holding the Louisville

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you would pick the Keynes.

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Speaker 2: But otherwise, no, there's not a lot there. Louisville's a

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a weird number, right, that Louisville's performed better,

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Speaker 1: Okay, second, big dog Dan. By some measure, I think

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Speaker 2: Man, I think it's Oregon State Washington, but agretted.

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Speaker 1: By some measures. Depending depending where you live, this game

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Speaker 1: They're a four loss team, and looking at this matchup,

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Speaker 2: Same. I mean, maybe a letdown spot for Georgia after

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Speaker 2: they took care of business last year against a much

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I just I feel as if

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Speaker 2: But like, I don't know, I just nobody is what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm skeptical Tennessee can stay within two scores of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: And you don't even need the numbers. You could just

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Speaker 1: The games, yes, watch the games. So I mean I

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Speaker 1: this year. Now, if they can do better than three

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Speaker 1: That's the big thing. It's not even a Tennessee thing.

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Speaker 2: So here's my question though, because this is also a

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Speaker 1: I don't no, I do, and you know I subscribe

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Speaker 1: We've seen it time and again so far this season.

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Speaker 1: And you go on the road to Neil and that's

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I don't know how Tennessee

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Speaker 1: I've of course picked Georgia now, which means Tennessee will

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Speaker 2: But yeah, George a little bit beat up on defense

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Speaker 2: That's the case for a close matchup. But like Joe Milton,

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Speaker 2: winning this game is not anything I and feel free

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Speaker 2: to replay this clip afterwards. It's not anything I see

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to another big dog in please Oh

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: This year it's between two seven and three teams. You

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Speaker 1: to play it because they cancel out both the same record.

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Speaker 1: Kansas State minus eight on the road at Kansas. Kansas

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Speaker 1: You gotta go back to the mark Manngino era, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this game. The concern here, I think is fairly obvious.

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Speaker 1: Lance Leipold, I believe is currently listing his quarterback situation

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw, yeah, optimistic that Jason domistic.

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Speaker 1: Optimistic, optimistic that Jason Bean's gonna play. He did get

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Speaker 1: I'm on k State.

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Speaker 2: As am I at home against a tenuous quarterback situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm if Jason Bean plays, I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: State if you like the Wildcats, But I just think

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Speaker 1: they're better. I think they should have beaten Texas. This

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Speaker 1: State runs them to death with DJ Giddens and Treshawn

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Speaker 1: Case State's a better team here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think Kansas State's gonna win by four touchdowns. Lock

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Speaker 2: of the Week, four touchdowns, yeah, absolutely, luck of the Week.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, my man, four touchdowns is a lot. This

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Speaker 1: is an offense that can score with Cole Ballard. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I think at this point in the season is when

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Speaker 2: obviously November is where death comes into play. And I

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Speaker 2: think Kansas State is rounding into really impressive form as

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Speaker 2: Kansas is sort of licking its wounds, still building up depth,

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Speaker 2: still way ahead of where they were when Lanceliopold took over.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know you mix in a suspect defense

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Speaker 2: appears to be growing into its final version or has

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Speaker 1: The game is in Lawrence, Dan, It is in Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Does that give you any cause for pause or favorite

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Speaker 2: It is in Lawrence why I'm gunning. I'm all over

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Speaker 2: the place with my graphics on the live stream. No,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't change anything for me. I'm standing by behind it.

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Speaker 2: I'm speaking with my chest, I'm speaking with conviction. Kansas

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Speaker 2: State by four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Four touchdowns is a lot.

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Speaker 2: Forty what's forty four minus twenty eight? Forty four to sixteen?

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight points? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forty four to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Are you confident enough in this pick for me to

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Speaker 1: include it as one of my picks at the end.

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Speaker 2: No, because then your association with this pick completely saturates

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Speaker 2: it with poison tie. No, absolutely not. Stay away.

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Speaker 1: All right, I can't make any promises, but I think

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Speaker 2: Okay, we agree.

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Speaker 1: It's got another big dog if we can one more

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Speaker 1: the level of disrespect from Oregon Royalty Dan Rubinstein as

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Speaker 1: we do this live show and I look at our graphic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and in place of the Oregon State logo, another team

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Speaker 1: that was cast aside like trash as all the other

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Speaker 1: big dogs, I'll play it again, went to bigger and

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Speaker 1: better conferences and left the little old pack two behind Tupac. Tupac,

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Speaker 1: thank you, that's good. Yeah, you swapped out the Oregon

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Speaker 1: State logo for the Wazoo logo. Now, Washington plays Wazoo

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Speaker 1: next week. Yeah's Cup. I'm excited about that matchup. Certainly

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Speaker 1: a lot on the line. But in this matchup, it

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Speaker 1: is seven thirty, it is ABC, it is Washington on

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Speaker 1: and one half point home favorite. This is a very

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Speaker 1: trendy pick. Dan, it is explain to me why this

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Speaker 2: Why what's the case for picking Oregon State here at home?

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Speaker 2: The home road splits for Oregon State are great, right,

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Speaker 2: beating Utah the way that they did, and they held

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Speaker 2: them to seven points. I think that was a Nate

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Speaker 2: UCLA at home, a very good UCLA defense, and that

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Speaker 2: was still a Dante More UCLA team. I think he

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Speaker 2: threw three picks in that game. So it was a

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Speaker 2: tough outing for the UCLA offense. And Oregon State runs

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Speaker 2: the ball super well. When you're able to run the ball,

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Speaker 2: you can control it. You know you'll have a home

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Speaker 2: field advantage. This is the last I think this is

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Speaker 2: the last game in Corvallis as a Pac twelve team, right,

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Speaker 2: so it will be an especially frenzied atmosphere. You look

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Speaker 2: their offense, their passing attack, and their ability to explode,

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Speaker 2: their ability to survive these past few weeks in a

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Speaker 2: one score games late, and that Oregon State is built

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Speaker 2: defense trying to get off the field against an offense

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Speaker 2: that stays on the field in Oregon State. And so

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Speaker 2: I think those factors a well coached team, a more

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Speaker 2: that's the case for the Beaves, that you're riding a motion,

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Speaker 2: an offensive line, and ability to control the clock, especially

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Speaker 2: with new rules, and coming in with some momentum after

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Speaker 2: absolutely destroying Stanford, turning Stanford over a bunch. Michael Penix

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Speaker 2: hasn't been super clean this year. That's the case. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. I mean, I get that people are making

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Speaker 1: this game's in core Vallas. There are other, I think

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Speaker 1: intangible factors with the whole PAC twelve PAC two situation

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Speaker 1: that probably plays a little bit into this. But what

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Speaker 1: I have not really heard is why they're better than Washington?

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Speaker 1: Why are they better? Somebody tell me why they are better?

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Speaker 1: Why are they better? We already know that the Husky

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Speaker 1: at this point. So Damian Martinez, DJ, you all the

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Speaker 1: name brand players for Oregon State, They're almost certainly going

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Speaker 1: to have some level of success here. The central problem

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Speaker 1: It's whether they can stop Michael Pennix. Can they stop them?

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Speaker 1: Do they have the corners to stop Michael Pennix and

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Speaker 1: roam A. Dunez and Jilynn Polk. I don't think they do.

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Speaker 1: And that is the issue that I have with this pick.

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Speaker 1: So I get why people want to make it, and

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Speaker 1: I get that we're through like eleven weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: Now we're into week twelve. Everybody is rooting for chaos.

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Speaker 1: Myself included, haven't really seen it. Maybe we'll get it

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Speaker 1: this week, Maybe we'll get it next week. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: get in conference champion of Week's a few more bites

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Speaker 1: at the Apple. I don't see it here. It's like,

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Speaker 1: sometimes your offense is just good enough. That was TCUs

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Speaker 1: conversations about them a year ago. Yeah, well, at some point,

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Speaker 1: You know, they made plays when they had to in moments.

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Speaker 1: So I just I don't I'm not buying it, and

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong. These could be famous last words.

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Speaker 1: I've got Washington thirty eight twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's here's the the final element of this,

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Speaker 2: presume if they win this game twelve and zero. With

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Speaker 2: they're one hundred and thirty first in sacks per drop back,

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Speaker 2: ninety second in pressure rate. They don't tackle especially well.

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Speaker 2: They're not good in the red zone, so their success

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Speaker 2: Their third down, third and long percentage forcing third and

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Speaker 2: That's not a lot at all. So it's how many

433
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Speaker 2: times can a subpar defense go undefeated If a season

434
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Speaker 2: has simulated one hundred times, even with this exact offense,

435
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Speaker 2: with the exact same offensive performance, that's the problem. And

436
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: you're playing against a team that routinely beats flawed teams,

437
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Speaker 2: especially at home.

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Speaker 1: It is a different team. I will give you that.

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Speaker 1: So I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

443
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Speaker 1: I understand rooting for the chaos. I understand rooting for

444
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Speaker 1: the intangibles, because the whole pac twelve thing. I do

445
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Speaker 1: not get why you would pick Oregon State here.

446
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: I mean, they're a good team playing in where they're favored.

447
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: It's a good team at home, and look, they're what

448
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 2: the fake field goal call away from potentially being at

449
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: least tied at the end of that game against Arizona,

450
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Speaker 2: perhaps being nine and one man.

451
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Speaker 1: We want to talk about chaos. What was that?

452
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Speaker 2: That was a terrible in retrospect, even worse in retrospect,

453
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Speaker 2: even worse in Oregon State's final season in the conference.

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Speaker 2: May I make my pick?

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Speaker 1: You can make your pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm well Washington.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

458
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Speaker 2: I'm going Washington. You just asked me to outline the case,

459
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Speaker 2: and I think the case is a sound one. I'm

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Speaker 2: going Washington because I go I went back and forth.

461
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Speaker 2: I had what I just outlined with Oregon State in

462
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Speaker 2: my head, and then i have what everything I've seen

463
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Speaker 2: of Washington first hand, and I'm gonna go with the quarterback.

464
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Speaker 2: When I go back and forth, I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: with the quarterback. And was texting with our friend Jeff

466
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Speaker 2: about this and the way that Washington, even when they

467
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Speaker 2: don't play well, just the universe is sprinkling in some

468
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Speaker 2: moments right, the pick six that he drops and then

469
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Speaker 2: they still get a safety out of like nothing. Seems

470
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Speaker 2: they seem kind of Teflanie this year, and so I

471
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Speaker 2: think I think the quarterback advantage is the big one here.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going with Michael Pennix and the Dogs.

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Speaker 1: We agree? Do we agree on all four of those picks?

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Speaker 2: All road teams? Right'll excuse me? No, Kansas State. Kansas

475
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Speaker 2: State is on the road, and the.

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Speaker 1: State's on the road. We've got Washington, We've got Kansas State,

477
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Speaker 1: We've got.

478
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Speaker 2: George Georgia, and we got terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, one of those teams is going to

480
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Speaker 1: lose out right, that's just feah the court. One of

481
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Speaker 1: them is going to lose. It's probably gonna be Louisville. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but okay, if you've made it this far again, for

483
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Speaker 1: Ballers dot Com is where you can go to play

484
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Speaker 1: in our run the Board game. You're gonna build out

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Speaker 1: our quads here momentarily. If you've made it this far,

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Speaker 1: please make sure you subscribe to the podcast. Please make

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Speaker 1: sure you rate and review if you've already done so,

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Speaker 1: Shall we get to our quad building exercise of the week.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I think about the heart, the passion, the love,

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Speaker 3: the commitment in the energy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, so that's to be clear. That's Oregon State, Kansas, Tennessee,

492
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Speaker 2: and what was the final one? Miami is who you

493
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Speaker 2: want if you are a believer in tai trend fading over.

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Speaker 1: My picks are okay on the whole. Yeah, on the whole,

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Speaker 1: they're like fifty ish percent okay. But the ones that

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Speaker 1: I give out as my locks of the week, the

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Speaker 1: ones I feel most confident about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got TI versus the world.

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Speaker 1: They gotta be like thirty percent this year. Dan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's horrible. Yeah, I'm getting taken to the cleaner of

501
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Speaker 1: my own betting account. I love it. It's not good.

502
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Speaker 1: But listen, you've got to put your money where your

503
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: mouth is. I've been doing that. It has not worked well.

504
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Speaker 1: But see see if we can get back on the

505
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Speaker 1: horse this week. So look, this is the spot where

506
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Speaker 1: we take a look at each window of games. We

507
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Speaker 1: tell you the four games that we are most interested in.

508
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Speaker 1: We'll call out some other ones, but the quad in

509
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Speaker 1: the night window, which I think is the most interesting

510
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Speaker 1: is Texas on the road at Iowa State, Texas a

511
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Speaker 1: seven and a half point road favorite. It is Florida

512
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Speaker 1: on the road at Missou Missoo, a home favorite of

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Speaker 1: twelve points. It is Kentucky a two point road favorite

514
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Speaker 1: on the road at South Carolina. And it is Syracuse

515
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Speaker 1: Syracuse on the road at Georgia Tech Georgia Tech a

516
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Speaker 1: six and one half point favorite. Dan. Those are the four.

517
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Speaker 1: We can debate whether or not QUS and Georgia Tech

518
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Speaker 1: should be in there over you know, Boise, Utah State,

519
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: or Nebraska Wisconsin or some of the other games in

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Speaker 1: this in this window. But what say you of those

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Speaker 1: four matchups? What sticks out to you is being interesting.

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Speaker 2: Iowa State Texas at night in Ames and Texas almost

523
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Speaker 2: giving away the TCU matchup last week. Iowa State being

524
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Speaker 2: pretty inconsistent on offense to me, but still I think

525
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Speaker 2: a bit of a surprise this year, and how much

526
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Speaker 2: they seem to have grown. The defense is still there.

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Speaker 2: South Carolina Kentucky is fascinating to me. Two points. The

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00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: point spread is two points. So can we start there

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Speaker 2: real quick? Yeah, because I don't know how much I

530
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: actually have to say about South Carolina Kentucky, because both

531
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Speaker 2: of these teams have been I think sort of disappointing

532
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: in their own ways, maybe more so than others. But like,

533
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Speaker 2: I kind of love South Carolina here, really I do.

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Speaker 1: Can I maybe help your case a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Block of the week you're taking Kentucky. I'm on Kentucky,

536
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Speaker 2: man oh man, good for you.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the line. Why would you thick South Carolina?

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Speaker 2: They're much better at home? What is Kentucky done this year?

539
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: What has Kentucky done for you lately?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

541
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Speaker 2: How have they earned this? I still think it's difficult

542
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Speaker 2: to win at South Carolina unless you're like a legitimately

543
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Speaker 2: good team.

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Speaker 1: Home rattler is better than road rattler. Yes he is,

545
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Speaker 1: so that that is definitely a thing.

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Speaker 2: What has Kentucky done?

547
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Speaker 1: Kentucky has gotten better? What throwing the football.

548
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Speaker 2: Have the Kentucky Wildcats done this year? Dude?

549
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Speaker 1: They're gonna kill South Carolina. Okay, they're gonna run it

550
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Speaker 1: up on South Carolina.

551
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Speaker 2: This feels like quintessential Shane Beemer. The November vibes are strong. No,

552
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, ty no, it's happened in Kentucky.

553
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Speaker 1: If it happens, it's next week against Clemson. It's not

554
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Speaker 1: happening this week against Kentucky. I don't get the line

555
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: this is by you. I think a huge overreaction to

556
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Speaker 1: South Carolina scoring forty whatever they scored against Vanderbilt No,

557
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Speaker 1: and I'd add Kentucky getting drilled by Bama. This is

558
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Speaker 1: you overreacting. This is me. I'm not going to play

559
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Speaker 1: the Walks down again, but this is me not buying

560
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Speaker 1: into that crowd, sticking with Kentucky and el Ray and

561
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Speaker 1: Devin Leary who seems to throw the ball and dan

562
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Speaker 1: Keyes stop dropping passes, walk up Kentucky.

563
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Speaker 2: Kentucky wasn't even that good at Mississippi State. They're not

564
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: good away from home, and they're not especially good at home.

565
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm fully selling on this Kentucky team. I think South

566
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Speaker 2: Carolina's below average. I don't think they're very good. I

567
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: don't love that they were dancing after the Jacksonville State win,

568
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: but I don't And I understand Shane Beemer's point that

569
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Speaker 2: you know, you get excited about a win, and that's fine,

570
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Speaker 2: But just in terms of my belief in South Carolina,

571
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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm out on Kentucky. I'm just I am

572
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: fully out on Kentucky on the road, and I don't

573
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Speaker 2: feel like they've earned this line someone in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the Texas Iowa State game?

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Speaker 2: I like Iowa State. I think I do too, And

576
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Speaker 2: it's you know what it is. It's a kickoff time

577
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Speaker 2: thing to me. Oh, because it's a night game, right.

578
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Speaker 1: Eight o'clock on Fox Texas minus seven and a half

579
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Speaker 1: at Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Okay, So what do we know about this

581
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Speaker 2: year's Texas team against decent teams, pretty good teams? Who

582
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: have they blown out? Who have they like pushed around? Right?

583
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: If we're talking about Texas in this playoff conversation, Kansas? Okay,

584
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Speaker 2: So that to me, they pushed around Baylor early on.

585
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: So the second half of the year, it's sneaking by Houston.

586
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Speaker 2: When quinn Ewers gets hurt, it's BYU at home. It's

587
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Speaker 2: at TCU winning by three. Maybe that was a look

588
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Speaker 2: ahead spot to Iowa State. I don't love teams playing

589
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Speaker 2: two consecutive road games. I don't love teams playing two

590
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: consecutive road games with the healing quarterback and now losing

591
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: the star of their offense in Jonathan Brooks to a

592
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Speaker 2: torn acl And so I really do like Iowa State

593
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Speaker 2: against the pass. I like this crowd. There has to

594
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Speaker 2: be a team every year to me for it to

595
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: fulfill college football destiny where it's like, I don't know,

596
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: you just don't go in there and expect to win big.

597
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. And sometimes it's Syracuse, sometimes it's Iowa State.

598
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: You knowzz corvallis way back when with those ranked USC teams,

599
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: the top five, top ten USC teams. I think there

600
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: are just locations in college football that you should be

601
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: more scared of than usual. Can Texas win this game

602
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Speaker 2: as a seven and a half point favorite? Absolutely? Can

603
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Speaker 2: they cover it? Yeah? I think there's a world in

604
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: which they do. But because of the specifics of it

605
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: being a night game, giving these fans all day to

606
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Speaker 2: drink and get riled up, like, it doesn't feel like

607
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Speaker 2: a real college football season unless a contender goes down

608
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Speaker 2: at one of those places you remember way back when

609
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: with Oklahoma State in Ames, I do. I just there

610
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Speaker 2: is something in the universe about these locations that gives

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Speaker 2: me the hebgb's tie. So I'm going to Iowa State

612
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: to win this game twenty three to twenty.

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Speaker 1: Do they get rip rowing drunken names?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I assume, So where where do they not

615
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Speaker 2: get rip roaring drunk in the Midwest high especially getting

616
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: Something game in November. Yeah, you got to warm the

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Speaker 1: cockles of your college football heart. Uh look home dog

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Speaker 1: of the week. Yeah, of course, the Yakos home dog.

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Speaker 2: Of the week.

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Speaker 1: We called this game out on our Iceberg episode. We

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Speaker 1: called this game out back in July. We called this

623
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Speaker 1: game out months upon months ago as potentially the flying

624
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Speaker 1: the ointment for a good Texas season. Like you said,

625
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: there without Jonathan Brooks sucks that he tore his ACL.

626
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Don't know if that's going to have any impact on

627
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Speaker 1: the offense. They've got boatloads of talent. They'll still find

628
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: a way to run the ball. I'm sure. But you

629
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the facto national championship games, this

630
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: is a de facto national champion farm again on deck.

631
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Speaker 1: Granted this game, this game is Iowa stage chance to

632
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Speaker 1: play spoiler as Texas exits the conference after the twenty

633
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Speaker 1: three season. I think there is also a good chance

634
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Speaker 1: at Iowa State wins this game out right, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I am with you on that. I twenty four twenty one.

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00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: Some Texas sneaks by.

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Speaker 1: No, I think Iowa State wins.

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Speaker 2: So Okay, so don't you say I think there's a

639
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: universe in what you Your pick is Iowa State twenty.

640
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Speaker 1: Pick is Iowa State twenty four to twenty one. It

641
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: is also the Jake Locker pick of the week. Yeah,

642
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: last week hit on the bet. He's one zero to

643
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Speaker 1: one since I've started giving these out, and he's all

644
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: in on on Iowa State as well. So I don't

645
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Speaker 1: know if it makes anybody feel better or worse than

646
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Speaker 1: I too am in on Iowa State, but let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Three dragons on Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: Three dragons on Iowa State. By the way, if there's

649
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Speaker 2: a specific matchup to watching this game, it's Texas being

650
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: especially shaky on third down and in the red zone.

651
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: They get a great amount of explosion plays, but if

652
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Iowa State makes them nickel and diamond down the field,

653
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: all that much more of an advantage for Iowa State,

654
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: who themselves pretty good in the red zone and very

655
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: good on third downs. Again off the field, So that's

656
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: that's an interesting moment in this game, an interesting matchup

657
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: with quinn Yewers hopefully back to full health.

658
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: But we'll see the other two games. I'll just call

659
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: these out quickly, please the Florida Mazoo game. Florida's defense

660
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: is bad again, Dan, last four games have given up

661
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: thirty nine forty three to thirty nine and fifty two points.

662
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, one, two, three, King, Kun, Yeah, you think they're done? Yeah,

663
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: I think I think Florida's done.

664
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Speaker 1: So yeah, really yeah, I didn't see that coming from you.

665
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: I think Cody Trader might run for two hundred and

666
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: forty four yards. I'm not kidding. That's my number. My

667
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: over under is two forty three and a half. You

668
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: decide which side do you want.

669
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Florida needs a win to get Bowl eligible.

670
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 2: Does Florida have the worst rush defense in America right now?

671
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean it might be. It's pretty bad.

672
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: Florida's rush defense. I can pull up the numbers, but

673
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: like what they've shown recently has been ugly. Florida's rush

674
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 2: defense right now is sorry. They're the worst team in

675
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: terms of giving up big plays and now they face

676
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Cody Schrader. Their actual rush defense, their past defense is bad.

677
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: So excuse me, I got it mixed up. Luther Burden might.

678
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: Go bunkers and forty three years now. Look, they both might.

679
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: I think we will have a dude in this game

680
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: form Miszoo, we'll have a dude.

681
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're five and five. They've got Missoo in

682
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: Florida State to close out the season. They're not going

683
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: to fire Billy Napier because he's got a huge buyout

684
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: and because they've got a great recruiting class lined up.

685
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: But it is I.

686
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: Might take a second look at that recruiting class because

687
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: it is falling apart.

688
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: It's getting late early at Billy Napier. And so I

689
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: just feel like, I don't think they're one, two, three,

690
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: can kun. I don't think they're packing up pack it in.

691
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: I've got some other teams that are packing up pack

692
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: it in that we'll talk about. But I don't see

693
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: them beating Miszoo here. I think Missoo's gonna run all

694
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: over them. So I'm with you, Missoo.

695
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: Who does Missoo finish with Arkansas? Yeah, so it's not

696
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: a look ahead moment for Miszoo.

697
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: No, all right, and uh, I am also gonna go

698
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: with I think I think I'm gonna go with QS

699
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: in the points here. It's interesting that the Georgia Tech

700
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: situation is interesting because it's got to be this week

701
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: if they want to get to win number six. Next week,

702
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: they've got Georgia. They're not going to beat Georgia right

703
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: this week, they've got QS. Obviously they can beat Syracuse.

704
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: Syracuse doesn't need this win to get Bowl eligible. Next week.

705
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: They've got Wake Forest at home, so they've got two

706
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: cracks at it here. Whereas for Georgia Tech, this is

707
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: like it has to be this week their moment. Yeah,

708
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm on CS with the points because text run defense

709
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: is atrocious, and if QUES decides they want to go

710
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: full service Academy again and run like seventy times, it's

711
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: a slower game that finishes within that six and a

712
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: half number. So give me QS. What's the points.

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00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm taking Georgia Tech at home. They've been a good

714
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: team at home.

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00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely some other games in this window. I'll read

716
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: these off very quickly. Give me a pick. Nebraska Wisconsin.

717
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: Wisconsin favored by four and a half.

718
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: Why Nebraska.

719
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm with Nebraska. Yeah, seven pm Boise State minus three

720
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: at Utah State.

721
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Boise State here a nice bounce back post Aplos win.

722
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Utah State plus points. Got Georgia State

723
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: at LSU LC favored by thirty one. I'm just gonna

724
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: go LSU Georgia State has been given up a lot

725
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: of points. Yeah, and FIU at Arkansas Arkansas is a

726
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: thirty one point favorite.

727
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess Arkansas. I don't love it.

728
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, let's move on to a different window if

729
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: you're let's okay with that. Welcome to the pain zones

730
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: where we live. Yeah, the afternoon block is the pain zone. Dan,

731
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: We've got UCLA, USC, Utah, Arizona, North Carolina at Clemson,

732
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: UNLV at air Force. This window, window, this window has

733
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Speaker 1: a ton of games. It's also Oregon, ASU, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota,

734
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Houston. I'm not gonna list all

735
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: these games. Maybe we can call out the ones that

736
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: we love. Yeah, let's get to the quad. UCLA USC

737
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: has the undercurrent of some very interesting storyline. There is

738
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: a popular report circulating the interweb from bruinreport dot Com

739
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: that Chip Kelly's gonna get fired after this game.

740
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: Likely you UCLA is likely going two part ways with

741
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly. Yeah, as the time of this recording, there's

742
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: nothing official.

743
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: Nothing official. You were like five years ahead of this one. Yeah,

744
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: of course you thought Chip wasn't going to be long

745
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: for Westwood a while back. Now, why is now the

746
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: time to do this?

747
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: I guess, relatively speaking, whatever it is, six years is

748
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: pretty long. Why because they're entering into what will be

749
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: a deeper and more difficult conference and the roster is

750
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: in anywhere near where it needs to be to compete

751
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: for nine or ten games, which is the next step

752
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: for UCLA. And you know, we've talked about this before.

753
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: I think the portal is a really nice way to

754
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: plug holes and build a little bit of depth. But

755
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: if you count on that for starters in a lot

756
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: of places and you're not recruiting on a big level

757
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: out of high school, you're not long for a job.

758
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: And I feel the same way about Colorado, like I

759
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: just don't think you can shortcut your way to success.

760
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: Feel the same way about usc You can't take a

761
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: shortcut to a good defense. And UCLA was able to

762
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: plug in guys nicely through the portal. On defense, they've recruited,

763
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: okay on defense, developed guys, and the pass rush has

764
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: been especially good. In the hire of Danton Lynn was

765
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: especially good at least the first half of the year,

766
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: but over the course of a season over the course

767
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: of the next two three years. If you're at a

768
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: big place and you are not building a recruiting machine,

769
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: it's the beginning of the end. And UCLA just doesn't

770
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: have the roster to me to compete moving forward. And

771
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: in this game specifically, as much as I don't like

772
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 2: USC and where they're at right now, they have Caleb

773
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Williams and UCLA has a beat up quarterback room. So

774
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: I like USC.

775
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Here I have the exact same thing written down, and

776
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: it is a out of confidence in Caleb Williams, who

777
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: had been balling out this year despite the fact that

778
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: his defense has done him no favors.

779
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: It's probably his last game in the Trojan uniform.

780
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably right.

781
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: It's on ABC at three point thirty, right, it's you know,

782
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: it's a primetime game, so you know if USC is

783
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: gonna end up. And I have no idea what bowl game,

784
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: the Holiday Bowl, the Animal, but like the he's not

785
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: going to play in.

786
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: That Miller Moss watch Baby.

787
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.

788
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm on USC minus whatever. It's at seven right now,

789
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: it's gone up a little bit. I think that's the move.

790
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: I think that's the move. Go USC. I am on

791
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: Utah plus one at Arizona, and I like Arizona. Arizona's

792
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: a great story if that UCLA job comes open once,

793
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: surprise me if Jed Fish got.

794
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: A look, yeah, Jed Fish, Jonathan Smith, Yep.

795
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: But this is a little This is a bridge too

796
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: far for me. This is a bridge too far. I

797
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: think Utah their physicality ends up being too much for Arizona.

798
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: So I'm going to Utah, right, I.

799
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: Mean, has Utah lost to every decent team they've played

800
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: this year?

801
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: Nah?

802
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: Come on, It depends on what you think about UCLA.

803
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: And in that game they scored one offensive touchdown right, right?

804
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: So they lose to Oregon, they lose to Washington, they

805
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: lose to Oregon State, they beat USC. They did beat USC,

806
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: so I don't know if USC is a pretty good team,

807
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: but that's something I don't think Utah on the road

808
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: second consecutive week. Arizona is much better at home that desert.

809
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: It's a weird place to play. What time is this game?

810
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: This game is at this afternoon, right two thirty Eastern time. Yeah?

811
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Arizona. I think winning is a skill

812
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: that Arizona has, So I'm going with the cats.

813
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: Here we disagree. Three thirty North Carolina at Clemson, Clemson

814
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: favored by a touchdown. I have no idea who to

815
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: pick in this game. I don't know which team we

816
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: are going to get.

817
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Well, the people are counting on you tie, No, they're not. No,

818
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: they're not whatever.

819
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: You're not counting on me for this. I have no idea.

820
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and tell you with any degree

821
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: of confidence on this day, Wednesday, November fifteenth, is we

822
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: record midday. I don't know which North Carolina team's going

823
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: to show up. I don't know which Clemson team is

824
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: going to show up. It feels like it changes from

825
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: week to week. Sure, I have no idea. Do you

826
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: have an idea?

827
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think North Carolina at least covers the spread.

828
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: This has all the trappings of a thirty one to

829
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight game, and so I'm taking North Carolina. It

830
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: has the trappings of it because I think North Carolina

831
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: is never out of a game because of Drake May.

832
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: We saw them go down to Miami and finish strong.

833
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if Clemson's going to have that killer

834
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: instinct two weeks in a row like they did against

835
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. So yeah, I see this as back and

836
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: forth and fascinating Drake May throwing into the Clemson defense. Yeah,

837
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points and what I think

838
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: is going to be a very close, weird game.

839
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Speaker 1: I will take the points as well because I have

840
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: no idea. Honestly, I have no idea. And the final

841
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: game that we listed in this quad three point thirty

842
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Network, maybe the biggest G five game of

843
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: the year, ULV at air Force favored by three points.

844
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with air Force. They've

845
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: had two bad losses in a row, and I'm inclined

846
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: to go UNLV plus the number.

847
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: Okay, the reason that I am not going UNLV plus

848
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: the number is here are the following defenses that UNLV

849
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: has played. They've played number one twenty nine, number ninety three,

850
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: number one twenty six, number one twenty eight, number one

851
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: oh eight, number one thirty two, and number eighty five.

852
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: The story this year with Jaden I think it's Mayava.

853
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: I hope I got it right, is terrific younger quarterback

854
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: Bury otom like. They've won games against flawed teams air Force.

855
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with them, especially early

856
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: on in games, I think, at home at altitude, I'm

857
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: still going to be a believer. UNLV also does not

858
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: play the run all that well, So I'm I'm going

859
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: air force here.

860
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: Give me, give me the ReBs man, give me the revs.

861
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: All right, some other games here in this window very

862
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: quickly orget at ASU, Organ's favored by about twenty four points. Yeah,

863
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: is there is there any reason not to go Oregon here?

864
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: ASU's defense is okay, and it's a huge letdown look

865
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: ahead spot after what Oregon did to USC and has

866
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: next week in Oregon State. You're always feel full, fearful

867
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: as an Oregon fan of traveling to the desert, even

868
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: with an ASU team that is a shell of itself,

869
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: a shell of what it will be eventually on offense,

870
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: I think so No, my head says Oregon, or my

871
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: heart says I don't know. My head and heart both

872
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: say take the points in this one, but I can't

873
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: really justify it out loud. So I'm going to say

874
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: Oregon and give the points because I think they're extraordinarily

875
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: better and they can score easily.

876
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the points. In the three thirty

877
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: FS one game, Illinois plus three and a half at Iowa.

878
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: It's a Luke Altmeyer game. It's not a John Paddock game.

879
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: To I don't know if that changes anything.

880
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm just taking points in the Big Ten West. I'll

881
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: come back to that that mindset in a little bit,

882
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: but just give me points in the Big Ten West

883
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: at this point. Iowa, though, what's Iowa?

884
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean they won twenty two in the Big Ten,

885
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: not in that it wasn't the West because it was Rutgers.

886
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: But it's Rutgers.

887
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I'm taking Iowa minus three and a half.

888
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: Heir Illinois out right.

889
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: So you're taking an interception prone quarterback playing on the

890
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: road against a team that does nothing but force interception.

891
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, that's exactly right, just verifying I want

892
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: those points. Minnesota at Ohio State. Ohio State favored by

893
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: twenty seven and a half. We've also got a few

894
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: other interesting matchups in this block. We got Oklahoma State

895
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: minus seven at Houston, Cincy on the road at West Virginia.

896
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: West Virginia favored by about a touchdown. UCF at Texas

897
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Tech minus three. I love Texas Tech in that spot.

898
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: Baylor at TCU, no idea where I'm at with that one.

899
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: NC State at Virginia Tech. I love Virginia Tech, wake

900
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: Forest at Notre Dame. The Sam Hartman Bowl twenty four

901
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: and a half seems like a lot, even though Wake

902
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: Forest is kind of bad.

903
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: Oh, this feels like a game Notre Dame will win

904
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: by thirty five, I think, yeah.

905
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: And Duke at Virginia. Duke favored by four at Virginia

906
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: almost inclined to go Virginia.

907
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: So like I think, I like Duke there. I think

908
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: the defense is good enough to win this game ugly,

909
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: and it's the CW Right, So you always have to

910
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: pick something weird than that game.

911
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: That's why I'm going Virginia.

912
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, I like Notre Dame big. I like

913
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech comfortably against NC State. Get the weird MJ.

914
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: Morris red shirting situation, TCU large against Baylor, even though

915
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't love either one of these teams, Baylor is

916
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: fading in a big way on defense. To me, Texas Tech,

917
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think I go West Virginia

918
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: as well, though I like the fight recently from Cincinnati

919
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: Houston as a road dog in what should be I

920
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: think a bit of a shootout here, So I take

921
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: the points in the shootout, especially with the home dog

922
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Big I'm gonna take against Minnesota, and I

923
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: already mentioned Iowa and Oregon.

924
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to go Minnesota plus points in that Ohio.

925
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: State game and a look ahead spot.

926
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a little bit of a look

927
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: ahead for Ohio State.

928
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think there's continued, especially after the work

929
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: they did against Michigan State. I think Ohios really needs

930
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: to get loose, right. I think they really need to

931
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: figure out how to consistently get going on offense and

932
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: not just targeting Marvin Harrison junior. So I think they're

933
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: gonna really go for it here ahead of the Michigan game.

934
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to our final quad.

935
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: Dode just drop fifty. You have to take it down Minnesota.

936
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to go that far. It's too scary. You

937
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: know something, I got news for you. That's where winning is.

938
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: How dare you interrupt with your heresy?

939
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: Didn't Heisman card just emerge against the Minnesota defense last

940
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: week for Purdue? Okay? Just making sure?

941
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: How dare you Dan?

942
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay?

943
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: We smirched the name the early window kind of sucks.

944
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. That's okay, it's okay,

945
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: it's fine. We found four really good games. We found

946
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: Oklahoma at BYU. Okay, maybe it's not that good of

947
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: a game, but Oklahoma favored by twenty four and a half.

948
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: We've got Michigan minus nineteen on the road at Maryland.

949
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: We've got Ruckers at Penn State. Penn State favor by

950
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: twenty and one half points. And we've got another big

951
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: G five game we've got at two pm on ESPN

952
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: plus app State at James Madison. James Madison favor by nine.

953
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Now that line's come down a little bit. It was

954
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: ten and a half, come all the way down to nine.

955
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: Why don't we start there?

956
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay?

957
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: I did the deep dive out on Patreon about James Madison,

958
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: and I feel like I learned a lot in that process.

959
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: What's interesting about this matchup, though, aside from it being

960
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: two prominent G five schools, it is strength on strength

961
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: because you've got two teams with solid passing offenses and

962
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: solid passing defenses. Neither team is that great at running

963
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: the ball or stopping the runs, so maybe that's your key.

964
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's whoever can run the ball

965
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: and control the clock. They're the They're the team that

966
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: ends up winning this game. App States won three in

967
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: a row after back to back losses back at the

968
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: start of October. James Madison obviously ten and zero kick

969
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: the crap out of Yukon last week.

970
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 2: Yep.

971
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: I think the fact that this line has come down

972
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 1: as a good indication of how you should bet this game.

973
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: So it started ten and a half when I made

974
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: the doc. It's at ten and a half right now,

975
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: and our run the board game. On run the board,

976
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: I am on app State plus ten and a half.

977
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: If I were actually betting, I'd be on James Madison

978
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: minus the nine. This to me feels like a ten

979
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: point game. It feels like it is right kind of

980
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: in that gray area between those two bets. So if

981
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm betting here actual money minus the nine, I go

982
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: James Madison. But in our game, which you get an

983
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: extra point and a half right board, go to forbawlers

984
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: dot com, App State plus the ten and a half

985
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: For me there.

986
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not a believer in app State schedule

987
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: right now. Again, you look at the defenses that they've played.

988
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: It's a lot of sub ninety defenses lately in the

989
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: back half of the year. So I'm taking jmu here.

990
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: I think the taking care of business being underrated element

991
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: really applies to the Dukes. So give me James Madison.

992
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Stand by what I said a week ago that BYU

993
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: is bad, capital be bad. Yeah, twenty four and a

994
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: half is a lot of points for Oklahoma to cover,

995
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: especially on the road.

996
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: But I think Byus they're not a good road team

997
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: this year haven't been especially strong on the road.

998
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: They're not a good road team. But I think BYU

999
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: might be in pack it up, pack it in. Ye yeah, yeah,

1000
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: So I'm on Oklahoma minus the number.

1001
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 2: I am too, because I just couldn't make the case.

1002
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't make the case for BYU competing in this

1003
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: game with an offense as bad as they've been.

1004
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: We've got Michigan minus nineteen. I believe there is a

1005
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: court hearing on Friday the seventeenth that will determine whether

1006
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: or not Jim Harbaugh and coach from the sidelines here,

1007
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: does it matter to you one way or the other?

1008
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: Well, look, you look at all of the adversity that

1009
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: Michigan has had to overcome, which wasn't at all self inflicted.

1010
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: Tie.

1011
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Did you see that press conference? It's the best that

1012
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: some of the quotes that Jim Harbaugh gave us in

1013
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: that press conference will live should probably live in our

1014
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: intro starting next season. Truly amazing.

1015
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: I think we should do a bake sale to benefit

1016
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Michigan football. Right, we all have to do our part, Tie,

1017
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: and so even if it's just raising a little bit

1018
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: of money and awareness about what the poor Michigan Wolverines

1019
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: are going through, maybe like a walkathon, we got to

1020
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: do something Tie, maybe a blood drive. It's just it's

1021
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: it's our part as a society that we can play

1022
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: to help out with Michigan and all that they've been through.

1023
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Maryland here out right now, I'm gonna

1024
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: go Maryland here. This has all the trappings. Look, if

1025
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is not on the field, I feel especially

1026
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: good about Maryland getting just a ridiculous backdoor cover being

1027
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: down twenty eight to six of three minutes left against

1028
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: the Michigan threes and scoring a touchdown and losing this game,

1029
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: you know, twenty eight to thirteen. So I'm gonna go

1030
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: Maryland plus the points here in a let down look

1031
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: ahead spot. Because even though you claim there are no

1032
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: numbers that justify the letdown look ahead spot as an

1033
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: actual mathematic reality, I feel it. I'm a bones tie.

1034
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: I feel the letdown look ahead sandwich here. And I

1035
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: don't love Maryland. I don't love back half Maryland. I

1036
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: don't like anything really about Maryland. But there is the

1037
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: drainage from overcoming as much adversity as Michigan was able

1038
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: to overcome last week again Michigan bakesale dot Org.

1039
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: So you're going Maryland because of a Michigan drainage situation.

1040
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're gonna be emotionally spent. I think

1041
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: they're gonna Yeah, I think it's gonna be twenty eight

1042
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: to six. They're gonna call off the dogs and they

1043
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: want to be healthy for next week. So yes, I

1044
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: think I see a backdoor covery here twenty eight thirteen.

1045
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: I just Maryland's not good. They're not good outside the

1046
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: month of September. They never are. Yeah, And even if

1047
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Michigan is looking ahead to Ohio State, I think they're

1048
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: in a look ahead proof environment right now given everything

1049
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: else going on. Okay, I think all of that is

1050
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: like super seded by the fact that people have called

1051
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: into question the validity of this season. Sure, and if

1052
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: anything is bulletin board material, it's that. It's that they're

1053
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: not looking past anybody.

1054
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think they're looking past Maryland.

1055
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: They're not looking past Maryland. Even if they are emotionally drained,

1056
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: they will be emotionally charged on game day. So I'm

1057
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: on Michigan minus whatever here, Okay, I disagree, And I'm

1058
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: on Penn State minus whatever too against Rutgers, by the way,

1059
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: because Penn State fired Mike you'rsitch. I think the natural

1060
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: inclination is and I've seen this point spread go down

1061
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. It was twenty one, it's come down

1062
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: half a point to twenty and a half a time

1063
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: of recording. I understand why you'd want to go Rutgers

1064
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: after the coaching change.

1065
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see it that way.

1066
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: I could see them having a better offensive showing without

1067
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: your sitch. So I'm on Penn State minus the.

1068
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: Number as am I as am I this feels like

1069
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: a game that they win by I think they want it,

1070
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: like by how many points last year? What was the

1071
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: final score of years game?

1072
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't even have it in front of me. But yeah,

1073
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

1074
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: It was five six touchdowns worth.

1075
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1076
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, some other games of this win o very quickly.

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Speaker 1: We have two Lane minus nine and a half at

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Speaker 1: fau Man. The last month of our lives has been

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Speaker 1: Tulane in just a weekly nail bier. Yes, so give

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Speaker 1: me whatever, Fay, give you whatever. Give me fau plus

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Speaker 1: nine and a half is what I'm saying.

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00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't feel strongly about this game.

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00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: Next Michigan State at Indiana. Michigan State, pack it up

1084
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: packing in Indiana minus whatever, and also Perdue minus three

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00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: at Northwestern. This is interesting because when I made the doc,

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00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: Northwestern was favored by a point and a half. The

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00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: lines now shifted to Perdue minus three. I will tell

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Speaker 1: the people this out of the goodness of my heart,

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Speaker 1: I shifted this line back in the other direction for

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Speaker 1: our special parlay. Okay, I will talk to you a

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Speaker 1: little bit about that in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Northwestern is going to lose this game to Purdue. They

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00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: don't do anything twice in a row all year long.

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00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: Snip snap, right.

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00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 2: They're gonna beat Illinois next week and lose to Purdue

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We've also got chattanoogat Bama and Louisiana Monroe thirty

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00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: seven point underdog on the road at all miss. There's

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Speaker 1: SMU Memphis in this window. There's Coastal Carolina at Army.

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00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Coastal minus four at Army in this window bet Coastal there, Dan,

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Speaker 1: just okay, do it sight unseen. I don't know if

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00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: you've got any other reads on some of the other

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00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: G five action taking place.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, all right, I think those are

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00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: my picks type for better or worse and shout out

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00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: to the SEC for this real difficult time with scheduling. Right,

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00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: But A and M's playing Applene Christian and their first

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Speaker 2: game minus Jimbo.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, what a challenge.

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00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: What a challenge the SEC puts itself through. What a grind? No,

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00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: just drop some big stanky, inching, nibbling drum and fife

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Speaker 2: for me today.

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Speaker 1: You got it, Dan Rubinstein twelve Eastern ESPN plus it

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Speaker 1: is Bucknell on the road at merrist.

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Speaker 2: Go Well, in a rivalry game like this, I think

1116
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: you gotta throw those records out. Give me buck Now

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: on the road, give me the Bison.

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Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm on Marist here Georgetown away from home

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00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: at Holy Cross.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgetown looking to get Bowl eligible here at five

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Speaker 2: and five. End up with that Alamo bule Berth. I'm

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00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: gonna go with Georgetown on the road. Nice little bounce

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Speaker 2: back season for the Hoyas.

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Speaker 1: Give me the Cross Satyrs. Big rivalry, big rivalry. I

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Speaker 1: talked to stolidwife Kate. I said, you want to go

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Speaker 1: to lafayet Lee High in your backyard?

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00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: She's like, no, I'm not interested. So is it Cooper Field?

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Speaker 1: Uh No, that's the that's Georgetown, man.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's what Georgetown calls there. What is the Lehigh Stadium?

1131
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: Goodman Stadium? How garn Stadium?

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Speaker 1: I'll hear you.

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00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Lafayette fifty five, Lehigh twelve?

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00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Leehig's real bad this year, dad. Now, finally we've got

1135
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Speaker 1: Fordham at six and four on the road at Coldgate.

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00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Fordham big here, Fordham very big. Forty

1137
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: two to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Rams here, forty two to fourteen.

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00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, big numbers.

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Speaker 1: That's a big guy. Let's put a cap on all

1141
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: the weekly action before we get to Betts with a

1142
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: look at your weather forecast for this coming week? Shall we?

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Speaker 4: Let's Dan and Ty we are heading into the weekend.

1144
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: I'm telling you it is fall your turkey Saturday. It

1145
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: might not rhyme that you should fall your turkey in

1146
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: Big ten country. All you got to do is put

1147
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Speaker 4: it on the ports because it's perfect thirties and forties.

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Speaker 4: Hello Kristen Chili the football this weekend. Across the South,

1149
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Speaker 4: it's good to go in the SEC warm sixty seventy.

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 4: Same things for the Big twelve. But our region of

1151
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Speaker 4: concern is southern California. Showers for us UCLA. Also the

1152
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: game kalo alto Stanford and cal bring two up the

1153
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 4: coast we go. Another region of concern in the Pacific

1154
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 4: of Northwest. We could see issues in Corsalla's a little

1155
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: showery with the Huskies company town.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Tim Bud that always does a fabulous

1157
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: job talking us through the weather. Dan, shall we get

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Speaker 1: the time versus.

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Speaker 2: The Word the World DJ.

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Speaker 1: Got four bets on the card and then a special

1162
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Speaker 1: parlay for all y'all. All right, let's start with Kentucky

1163
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: minus the two. You hate it, I love it, see

1164
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: what happens, and shall see what happens. I've got Georgia

1165
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: minus at ten and a half. Why overthink it?

1166
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: Why overthink it?

1167
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: Why overthink it? Maybe a backdoor cover situation for Tennessee,

1168
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: but otherwise they ain't winning the game. So let's go

1169
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Georgia minus the number. To feel good about it, Let's

1170
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: go Iowa State plus seven and a half. I picked

1171
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: him out right, I would be I would be a

1172
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: hypocrite if I didn't go Iowa State plus the number.

1173
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: If I like them outright, I just would. They're getting

1174
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Speaker 1: seven and a half at home at night, big game,

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: the facto National Championship. I preach at the altar of

1176
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: the facto National Championship.

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00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 2: I know, so you claim I preach at it.

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do for the most part, not all. Okay,

1179
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: only when it suits me. Give me the number, give

1180
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: me plus seven and a half. And this is a

1181
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: late addition. I'm sorry, Hoky fans. I'm adding Virginia Tech

1182
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: minus two and a half to the card as well.

1183
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: Just got the vibe going through these picks. I got

1184
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: the vibe of Virginia Tech. I like Virginia Tech in

1185
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: this spot, I really do. They've been playing better and

1186
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: Kyen Drones has been a bit of a revelation on offense,

1187
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: there's actually been some smoke, perhaps on Virginia Tech's offensive

1188
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: coordinator being hired by Penn State to run their offense.

1189
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: So they've done a good job on offense lately. Give

1190
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: me the Hokies minus two and.

1191
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 4: A half.

1192
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: On top of it. On top I've got something I'm

1193
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: calling the Big ten Western omelet.

1194
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: I like that.

1195
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: Illinois plus the three and a half.

1196
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: You don't like it?

1197
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: I know you ready don't like it. Continue Nebraska plus

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Speaker 1: four and a half.

1199
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't hate that.

1200
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: And I've shifted the Purdue line. I've shifted it from

1201
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: minus three to plus three.

1202
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,959
Speaker 2: Okay, you're teasing.

1203
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: It a little bit. Yeah, Illinois plus the three and

1204
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: a half, Nebraska plus the four and a half, Purdue

1205
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: plus three, that's your Big ten Western Omelet. You make

1206
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: the bet you get it at about four to one.

1207
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, good luck with all that.

1208
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: Good luck. You don't like that.

1209
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't like Illinois at Iowa.

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01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Why don't you like that? Pick? Because they tell me

1211
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: why you don't like that pick.

1212
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't like Illinoi's offense with Luke Altmeyer. I just

1213
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: don't really. Yeah, I was built to win that game

1214
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: seventeen to seven. Man, Dan, I don't know what's the

1215
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: under in that game. I never have it in.

1216
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: Front of me. Okay, I'm sure it's ugly. I don't

1217
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: think it's as bad or as ugly as it's been

1218
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: in the past, But like, I just feel good about

1219
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: Illinois in that spot.

1220
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: Okay, how fun?

1221
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: You just keep saying, okay, okay, I'm trying to get

1222
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more disagreement here from you. Tell me why, specifically,

1223
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: why other than I don't like Illinois, I.

1224
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: Don't what more do I need? Iowa is built to

1225
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: win this game. They're built to win an ugly game

1226
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: against the team that has struggled on offense. So I

1227
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: like Iowa here, all right, Dan, that's all. By the way,

1228
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: any reaction to the college fotball playoff rankings from this

1229
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 2: week and what change on how you view the universe?

1230
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Speaker 1: We have what Georgia one?

1231
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: We have Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida State are the

1232
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: top four? Do you think those are the four best

1233
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: teams in America? When you combine what you've seen with

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Speaker 2: your eyes and the resume.

1235
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Speaker 1: Say yeah, I'm okay with it.

1236
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't don't. I would take Alabama against Florida State.

1237
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: I would take Alabama probably against Ohio State or Michigan

1238
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Speaker 2: right now, yeah, I okay, So my, if you combine

1239
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Speaker 2: record and you know resume and you know eye test,

1240
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Speaker 2: would however, you want to play the completely subjective alopment,

1241
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: I would have Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Texas, Washington.

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