WEBVTT - The Welfare Queen w Ayo Edebiri (Fraud Friday)

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<v Speaker 1>Scaled cod, rub and rub scam, come rob and froll

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<v Speaker 1>gob goddess. What's up, congregation, we are back with another

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<v Speaker 1>installment of Scam Goddess. It's your girl. Lacey Mosley aka

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<v Speaker 1>scam Goddess. I named the show after me with a

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<v Speaker 1>very obvious alias. Hi, guys, I'm so excited. I met

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<v Speaker 1>this girl in the bathroom. This is good. I met

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<v Speaker 1>her in the bathroom and I loved her so much. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's Forbes thirty under thirty, Comedy Central digital

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<v Speaker 1>writer for Sunnyside. Also just the youngest, coolest hippos. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I am sucking her energy out like I am a

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<v Speaker 1>witch from hocus Pocus right now, I'm so into it, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I have I won't kill her. I will suck to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of so, but then I'll stop. We have

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<v Speaker 1>I out a Deboie. I did it perfect, Thank you perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate people's name I know it's hard. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>big pet people of mine. I don't ask you four

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<v Speaker 1>times because you can only ask in the beginning. It's true,

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<v Speaker 1>because like when you meet somebody, you gotta be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your name? Okay, what'sh your name? A game? I

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<v Speaker 1>will say.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people, there are comics that we know who

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<v Speaker 2>I like, and who I know like me back because

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<v Speaker 2>they hang out with me and are friendly with me

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<v Speaker 2>and they call me Ao. And it's to the point

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<v Speaker 2>of it's too late, you know, like we've hung out

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<v Speaker 2>like a few times, and I tried to make the

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<v Speaker 2>initial adjustments. I tried to remind but I think they

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<v Speaker 2>just have an opinion set and.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have an opinion. They've got an opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>They have something that they want to say about my name,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna let them say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think wild take. It's never too late to correct

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<v Speaker 1>someone on your name. Don't let it. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>can let it. Months go by, but it's fun. It's been.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, reaching a year. Almost everyone feels better when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, this is my name, because then you're

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna find out at some point. They're either gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see it on TV where they're going to see another

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<v Speaker 1>friend go up to you and be like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, and they're gonna be like, who is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling it? It's been.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a situation. I some people will be like

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<v Speaker 2>oh Io. Any other person will be like, yes, Ao,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody thinks they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Oh so that Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a marriage story. It's a marriage story, but it's about

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<v Speaker 1>my name. Oh god, marriage story. Adam Driver's character was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That was very obvious. Yeah, but it's from the perspective

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<v Speaker 1>of a guy. So no, so it's complicated. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, he asked so like he even

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<v Speaker 1>said it that he will ask why are watching this? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the marriage story was strange. I'm sorry, y'all. That story

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<v Speaker 1>has been told a billion times. There's a white man

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<v Speaker 1>who thought he was more interested than what he was

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<v Speaker 1>and was sucking the life out of his wife. Why

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<v Speaker 1>men get married and then they resent their wise? They

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<v Speaker 1>get married so fast and there like marriage the old

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<v Speaker 1>ball and chain, Right, it's like, you got ball, you

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<v Speaker 1>made the chain. What are you talking about? You bought

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<v Speaker 1>the chain? My god? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like is my my hot film take

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<v Speaker 2>is that? I think Bombback said everything he had to

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<v Speaker 2>say about divorce when he made squid on a whale,

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<v Speaker 2>and anyone who cares.

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<v Speaker 1>About that can come back. I mean, squint in the

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<v Speaker 1>whale goes off. Okay, tweeted us about squid on the Whale.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>a squid on the whales? That what you said, the

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<v Speaker 1>squid end of the way, the squid and the whale

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<v Speaker 1>or squid on the wave on the whale. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see that. Make that That sounds like a porn,

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<v Speaker 1>like an amateur porn. Yeah. Yeah, what's your relationship with scams?

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate a good scam. I appreciate the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I like to look at it. Today, I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually thinking about one of my favorite scams of

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<v Speaker 2>all time because Jlo is hosting or is performing.

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<v Speaker 1>At the super Bowl halftime. She is, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>scam in itself, and her whole career is one long scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the longest con Jaylo can't sing? And did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Jlo does know that she can can't sing? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that is. She did an interview and

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<v Speaker 1>then she was like, I never knew that people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think I could sing. I thought I could sing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she thought that she was on she thinks she's

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<v Speaker 2>on multiple tracks, but it's not her, like it will

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<v Speaker 2>literally be a shanty or Christina Milian or like another

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<v Speaker 2>girl who sounds like her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's other people and the royalties. Yes, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a scam, not a shanty. No, it's I'm rewriting history.

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<v Speaker 1>So so she thinks she's on these tracks, I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she like or she thinks that she's still

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<v Speaker 2>good even though like she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not singing for most of these songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Like and I was reading up because I was just

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<v Speaker 2>I just I was fascinated. I became fascinated for myself

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of the like uh like write ups

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<v Speaker 2>of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Song will be like Jayla didn't have time to make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the studio. Like Jaylah was busy. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>doing what not singing? Obviously, where was she? I love

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<v Speaker 1>having your name on a track but then being too

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<v Speaker 1>busy to actually sing on it. That is fantastic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff that I aspire to. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild, but still making money. That's what I want. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little safe and I love that. Also, she's Jenny.

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<v Speaker 1>She uses Jenny in the block, she uses human growth.

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<v Speaker 1>She does when she works out. That's why her body's

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<v Speaker 1>so good. He really, Yeah, she gets shot. I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing Yeah, I want that. J Lob sweet sweet bot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna project myself with human growth sore. Scary. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's so she's fiy I just got her che.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that healthy to inject yourself with human growth hormone hormo?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything? Now? And then? Look, it's just like and alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's bad for you. You got to do it in moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>Got do your human growth hormone and moderation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when I get my blood transfusions from young queer

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<v Speaker 2>black men, I med buck, I that in moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ed Buck edbuc finally is going to jail. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a scammer that we can't talk about. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>a scam that's he's not If you don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>ed Buck is, looking up. He was a donor to

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party, but only because the Republican Party kicked

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<v Speaker 1>him out because of hopophobiabia. Yeah, he really liked tobos. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he Yeah, he was out here killing black man.

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<v Speaker 1>He has so many black men die his house. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not cool to have that many people die in your house.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the cops are just like another one. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess this is fine? Like why that?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, there was like a network of people who were like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>ed Buck's probably gonna ask you to go to his house.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do it, you might die, like not ideal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you start getting p s a sol people don't come

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<v Speaker 1>to your dinner parties. You do something wrong with your house.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get to the first segment, that is what's

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<v Speaker 1>hot and fraud. So this is where we just like

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<v Speaker 1>warn our listeners what's hot in fraud. Sometimes we get

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<v Speaker 1>like a fun listener letter and we just say that

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<v Speaker 1>and and today it's a fun listen to a letter

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<v Speaker 1>from Scamala Anderson. Oh wow, good for her. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>coined that name herself and wrote it in the commons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great, Hey Scamala, Scamdala Bassett. Oh, Scamdala Bassi's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to light somebody's carl fire with a cigarette on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so it's the least you deserve it. Yes, so,

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<v Speaker 1>Scamla says, girl, I love the show. Okay, thank you, Scambala.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna skip the other compliments, but thank you, she says. So. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>my retired scam consisted of buying an item, usually big ticket,

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<v Speaker 1>at a big box store. Then I go back into

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<v Speaker 1>the store the next day with the receipt, get the

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<v Speaker 1>same item off the shelf, and then go get your

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<v Speaker 1>money back. Technology killed the scam. She said, whoa, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the serial numbers. Yeah, because before cereal numbers, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>could just roll up in that bitch and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah about this same washer and dryer yesterday, roll it

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<v Speaker 1>to the front, give them the receipt, they pay you

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<v Speaker 1>for your drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait also, wait, hold on when was this happening? She

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't put a year, but it had to have been

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like where are you? And that's kind of also

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like where are you? Because I feel like some places,

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<v Speaker 2>like if they're more like small town or yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Rule, they'd be like, oh, scam, all, good to see you. Dang,

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<v Speaker 1>your washer's really messing up. You gotta check a pistol.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it. Yeah, just roll it in. So

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of Good Girls where they go to

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<v Speaker 1>the big box. Have you seen I Love Good Girls?

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<v Speaker 1>Scammers It's coming back in February. Watch it. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good. It's basically Mad Money, the plot of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Mad Money. But then like they make it a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show that's good. Yeah with the white woman from

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Men. Who a camera, her name, thank you, I

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<v Speaker 1>love her, Retta and May Whitman. You know all their names?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I don't actually, so this is as I said

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<v Speaker 1>the show. There was a blank look in your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and you listed all the.

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<v Speaker 2>My scam, my personal scam is that I got a

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<v Speaker 2>BFA and playwriting, and I learned that in order to

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<v Speaker 2>succeed this into street, you don't actually have to have

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<v Speaker 2>seen things. You just have to know who is in

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<v Speaker 2>it and what it's generally about. Oh, spend enough time

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<v Speaker 2>on IMDb and you can wheedle your ways.

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<v Speaker 1>One episode of everything. That's also that's all. That also works.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get tone.

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<v Speaker 2>People love talking about tone. Yeah, tone makes me horny.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next scam the SCAMLA sent us two SAMs.

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<v Speaker 1>The other scam is she said another one I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought up, which I love that she's writing as if

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<v Speaker 1>she's talking, and she says, I worked at a convenience

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<v Speaker 1>store and fountain drinks were keyed in manually. I would

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<v Speaker 1>key it in and pocket the money and I was

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<v Speaker 1>taken home around one hundred and fifty dollars a day. Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>But the store got robbed and I was out scammel

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<v Speaker 1>it was robbing the store every day. What you mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was out when they got robbed't scalon, No, that's home.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where she drew the line. She was like, someone

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<v Speaker 1>else robbed the store with a gun. Do you see

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>This to me is like a thing where I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, no, Because like convenience store chains, especially, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the bigger the store, the less people care about

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<v Speaker 1>the minutia and the semantics, which makes a little scam

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<v Speaker 1>perfect because if it's like a mom and pop gas

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<v Speaker 1>the lead station where everybody knows your names, like cheers,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna know mom and Pop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important, it's it's it's it's moral to steal from corporation, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're evil inherently, Like I think all women should

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<v Speaker 2>should steal make up tampons.

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<v Speaker 1>We should definitely steal tampon.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a friend who worked at Redacted Corporation, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid they'll find him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he worked at.

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook and a Facebook they have read they have such

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<v Speaker 2>nice like amenities, and I would just go to the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom and I'm bring in a toe bag and I

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<v Speaker 2>would steal all the tampons.

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<v Speaker 1>You were joining the right thing, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just take them put in my bag, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like they're gonna buy more, so might as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, the least they could do for women, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>They're stealing all my data, I might as well be

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<v Speaker 2>able to reap a little bit of something from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, like how many women are on Facebook, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>stole tampons from one woman.

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<v Speaker 2>She feels like this sort of thing, like you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>the first woman went into space for like six days,

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<v Speaker 2>they gave her one hundred tampons into space, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>sent her into space.

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<v Speaker 1>Think she was going to start bleeding more in space Marshowski,

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<v Speaker 1>This comic has a really funny song about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they sent her into space with one hundred tampons,

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<v Speaker 2>And that feels like that same energy or Facebook is

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<v Speaker 2>like we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Three women working here, but we'll get ten thousand tampons

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<v Speaker 1>every day, every single day because that way, if a

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<v Speaker 1>woman ever happens in this bathroom, we're like, look what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know what it's like, ladies, You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. When you just start your period

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<v Speaker 2>and you be bleeding for a year straight and so,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's how blood works and so you need one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred tampons a day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be bleeding all day or day. They're so dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I think it's to create that illusion of like,

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<v Speaker 1>there must be so many women who work here, because

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<v Speaker 1>look at many industrial boxes of tampons we have in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom for bitches that definitely work. A Facebook with

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<v Speaker 1>vaginas with vaginas or not, yeah exactly or not or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish Facebook was that. I hate them so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the power they have over me. At this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to let it go. Guy yourself, Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>personal power that Mark Zuckerberg has over me. You. I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear this right, he's listening everywhere. He's in this room.

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<v Speaker 1>That weird ass haircut, beauty little eyes. Oh, such a

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<v Speaker 1>nasty looking man. All right, guys, we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break right back scarf. Oh all right, guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're back, and it's time for historic hoodwinks, which is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite segment of the show. Is his where I

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<v Speaker 1>will regale Ayah with a very famous hoodwink and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just get her opinions all throughout. Interjected in between Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>little director's commentary. Yes, So today's story hoodwink, which is

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<v Speaker 1>I was a black woman. If you don't know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that. No, I'm telling everyone, I'm dosing you black.

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<v Speaker 1>I do this almost every show because I'd be saying

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<v Speaker 1>nigga a lot. That's the first nigga of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I necessarily sound black on the airwaves.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just got to remind you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>People in this, in this, in this what do you

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<v Speaker 2>call this thing like a podcasting universe have told me

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<v Speaker 2>that I sound like Jess McKenna before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could get I could hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've only met her once. But I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>when we talked that we sounded like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we chose a deeper voice than you do, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say that. Well, then I'll pitch it down.

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<v Speaker 2>But any white Hey, guys, this is Jess McKenna, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here saying, then.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what nigga. That nigga sounded very white. Hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Jess McKenna. This is probably mean. No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. Jess would love it. Just probably loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is important though, because I wanted another black

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<v Speaker 1>woman on the show to discuss this scammer because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a delicate topic. Yes, it's the Welfare Queen, and boy,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, did that name do a number on our community.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to remind you guys that the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>people on welfare are white. It is a fact there

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them are in California, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>the black and the Welfare Queen. Really when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a hit for the culture, like really like DC

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<v Speaker 1>sniper level hit where like we were like, black people

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<v Speaker 1>don't kill people at random, we kill people with a

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<v Speaker 1>small amounts of money, like, and then the DC sniper

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<v Speaker 1>came out and was just literally shooting everybody. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we had to spin it and we was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was also spent a time with his sons, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good dad. It's a good that's which

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<v Speaker 1>is all so brutal to have to be Like I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the spin is fatherhood. I don't know. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>was hanging out with his son. He took his son

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<v Speaker 1>to lost of murders. Like, how do we fix this?

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<v Speaker 1>So the Welfare clean did a number on the black community,

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<v Speaker 1>But I love her. Today we celebrate the Welfare c Day,

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<v Speaker 1>We celebrate the welfare class history months. Oh no, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>we call her Linda from the for the for here

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<v Speaker 1>on out. But Linda Taylor was born in nineteen twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>The arms the twenties were like real and also like

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<v Speaker 1>this is a bad time for black people. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe I even tried to call her the welfare Clay.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just out here trying to live her life. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mad, she's just trying to get to neutral. What

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<v Speaker 1>am I saying? Every day's a bad day for black

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<v Speaker 1>people in this country. It's not gotten that much better,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well a little bit, but not a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have lake phones and showers. Yeah, we have

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<v Speaker 1>phones and showers. But that stuff that everybody had specifically rights,

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<v Speaker 1>Why yeah, that's what That's what I had to offer,

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<v Speaker 1>phones and towers. So her name was Martha Louise White,

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<v Speaker 1>and gold Dust, Tennessee is where she was born. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was born to a white woman named Lydia Moone White,

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<v Speaker 1>a little white person named white. What is this? Tone?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this for black stream? And she was born what

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<v Speaker 1>and white? So this is her mother? So she Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Louis White is the welfare Queen. Linda Taylor's original name,

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<v Speaker 1>and then her father was a Negro and she had

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<v Speaker 1>been conceived in Alabama, where at the time sexual relationships

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<v Speaker 1>between white folks and black folks legal and punishable by prison. Honey.

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<v Speaker 2>The family frequently lied about the race. I want like

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<v Speaker 2>tiny little piano piano too.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have to edit in a that's definitely the music,

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<v Speaker 1>as telling the truth could have made her mother guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>Matha grew up in the child interns sharecrop who made

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<v Speaker 1>little money, and we're gonna have to fuggle the levels

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<v Speaker 1>on this. People are gonna hate this. I have to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>They will hate that and we will have to fuggle

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<v Speaker 1>the levels. So the family frequently lied about her race

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<v Speaker 1>and telling her that she was, you know, a white person,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a common thing, especially in Louisiana. Like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>lots of creole people who passed for Where are you from, Louisiana, Dallas, Dallas, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have family in the Muisuma.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Boston, Boston. Yeah, there's no passing. There's no passing

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston, Boston. You're either Irish, Catholic, or black or Vietnamese.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, they will give you Vietnamese. Yeah. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's like Hislanics have to be black. There's Cape

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<v Speaker 1>Verdian people.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not that many Hispaniic and Latino people in like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like certain neighborhoods, it's like very racial, like racially segregated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why how Pittsburgh is a little neighborhood its

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<v Speaker 1>own race. And yeah, there's not a lot of mixing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's it's yeah, it's like there's definitely a separation, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's not. There's not a lot of passing, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I did meet one. There's one girl I met who

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<v Speaker 2>who is a black girl. She's half black, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>the only black person I've ever met with the Boston accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh raised, that sounds horrible white family. It wasn't horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just deeply fascinating. And I think about her

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<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I always feel for black people who get raised

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<v Speaker 1>by the white part of the family. Oh, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>because either they ignore your race and like she's just

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<v Speaker 1>like ash, she's just damn or they like indoctrinate racism

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<v Speaker 1>into your soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh No, I feel like there's gotta be a middle ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you not always guess when someone is half black

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a black mom. I can. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I come. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, there's a certain nage where it's like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like hair, You're like you, like you. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's either like they're working through hair and like getting

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<v Speaker 2>to a good place, or their hair is like immaculate

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like so rough during childhood and now

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<v Speaker 2>they're like no, no, no, I know how to do

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<v Speaker 2>this perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be no mistakes. I am free the shackles.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the shackles off my feet, take off my hair,

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<v Speaker 1>or as we say here, take the shackles off my feet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I scam, Wow, that's good, feel good. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come up with that. Someone else did. Don't know who.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Twitter for you, but I won't steal it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not Lizzo. I will say I got it off Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So Martha grew up the child of innerant sharecroppers who

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<v Speaker 1>made a little bit of money honey and were devastated

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<v Speaker 1>by droughts of floods all the time. It was always

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<v Speaker 1>droughting or flooding, which is some bullshit. It was either

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<v Speaker 1>dry or it was real wet. This is like biblical.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too wet or too dry, so on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the financial deprivation, she was often made to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like an outsider in her own family and community because

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<v Speaker 1>of rays mixed race. She was expelled from an all

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<v Speaker 1>white school at the age of six and didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it past the second grade. So must have been in

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<v Speaker 1>that all white schools. Some Negro came out and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, wait a minute, wait a minute, is this

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<v Speaker 1>tan white woman black? She just should have said she

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<v Speaker 1>was Italian. She really should have. But at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Italians was still getting it rough. White people

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<v Speaker 1>had united as one white front. That's true. In America,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. They still was talking about Irish people like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, all splitting up. Now they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>make America great again. We're all the same robot human

0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. They got together like the Power Rangers and

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<v Speaker 1>was like it's racist time. It's like everybody got off Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, just white cloaks, just real pristine gloves, all ripers,

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<v Speaker 2>all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Known apple bottom jeans, boots with the spurs, anything there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay. So she gave birth to her

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.919
<v Speaker 1>first child in nineteen forty around the age of fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and would go on to give birth to four more

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<v Speaker 1>over her lifetime. That sucks. I know that's too young

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<v Speaker 1>to have a baby. She did make attempts at a

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<v Speaker 1>formal employment, she was also at a disadvantage. Hello. Racism

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>limited her education and racism also limited her employment opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if she like she often leaned into racial

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<v Speaker 1>fluidity or assumed to be white, it still wasn't helping.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew that Linda had a little drop yes, yes, yes,

0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that's spicy flavor in her. That spicy flavor called a

0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 1>black father who so she certainly perpetrated welfare fraud, showing

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<v Speaker 1>up to eight offices describing her hardship she hadn't experienced

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and children she didn't have to get expedited checks. So

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<v Speaker 1>she did have a child, but she was fruitful and

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<v Speaker 1>multiplied that one child into hypothetical marinal church. We are

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:50.679
<v Speaker 1>the scam was fruitful and begat scams she did. She

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>multiplied children ypathetically, so most of the time it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>She used a rotating cast of aliases to get those checks. Honey,

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<v Speaker 1>and she perpetrated other frauds in programs and private systems

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like life insurance, which life insurance itself is a scam. Yes,

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 1>we give you little amounts of money our entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>so that when we die not fun. When we die

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<v Speaker 1>not fun, pretty brutal. Also, don't get any money. It's

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<v Speaker 1>for your family. Yeah. Yeah, well my parents have life

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 1>insurance policies, so I feel good about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you go get a check.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hey, listen, they tell me, they tell me this information.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I supposed to be sad about it. No, it's

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>just preparations because that your parents are responsible. I know

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<v Speaker 1>my parents have the life insurance man come over. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very weird process. Yeah. They came to our house

0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and then assessed how healthy my parents were. Yeah, it's weird,

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 1>which was gross. They were in their thirties and then

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 1>this man's in there, like how good you breathe it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have young parents? My mom's fifty, so yoh

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<v Speaker 1>she's very young. My mom was just turned to redacted six.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, see that's they had that responsible. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad my mom had me just had one. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish that I had had a baby at twenty one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, I just because then I could have like

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<v Speaker 1>a little friend to get cocktails with. Okay, I'm twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess not Yeah, no, that's not right now.

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 2>But all the hottest little baby that I go get contacts,

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you're still content. So regardless of age, you just want

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 2>somebody who you can get cocktails with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was also my seed.

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and that's sort of something that I think you

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 2>should pin for yourself.

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't really don't be Yeah, the whole baby that I

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>get cocktails with, it's really like subsicient. Yeah, no, a baby.

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that's maybe all right. Yeah, I think it's cool. Okay.

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I like that you feel good about that. I am

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>happy for you that that makes you feel cool. But

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm ripped. I was ripped off of that experience because

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm a millennial who's chosen not to have children. Yeah,

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.479
<v Speaker 1>because it's crazy. It's an ethical it is wild, like,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>kid's bad for the planet. I know, save the planet.

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Don't have a child. I know how much surgery a

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>baby is. I'm kidding, guys, have your baby. I love

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>by the idea of something looking like me. Oh that's

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what I want. I know. I want that so bad.

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I once stated a guy because we had the same name. Now,

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys know, I'm learning a lot aboualue. He was

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>not a great guy. But boy, just saying my own

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>way the name, it's very fun. He was lazy. I

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was lazy. That was good enough for me for too long.

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 1>The bars on the floor, men, you know that. So

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>she may have suffered from mental illness, is what a

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of articles have kind of gleaned about Linda. But

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know if I agree with that.

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I think she was a genius. Where are they getting

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You can be both. You can have mentalilists and be

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a genius. That's so true. But I think that, you know,

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 1>white guys are allowed to do that all the time, exactly,

0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and then it's cool they make a movie about it.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 2>There was a brilliant, brilliant, beautiful mind, right, that's all

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:04.879
<v Speaker 2>that movie's about.

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>And goodwill hunting. Yeah. So at our first trial, well yeah,

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 1>At her first trial over welfare fraud, her attorney asserted

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>that she was incapable of knowing whether or not she

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>was telling the truth and had her evaluated by a psychiatrist.

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy eight. Three of her lawyers said the same,

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and two psychiatrists found that she was quote unquote psychotic

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>whoa I don't know about that. A series of experts

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>examined her over the next years and couldn't make firm

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>conclusions about her mental health. Her behavior certainly seemed to

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 1>have followed clear and disturbing patterns. Every chance she got,

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>she used fake names to sign up for public benefits,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>even when it led authorities right back to her. She

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>did not seem capable of telling the truth, even in

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>small matters like her own name. I don't know if

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>this makes you psychotic. She was just a smart black woman.

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Are you fucking kidding me? She was born in nineteen

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, bach, I'm a lot of everybody every day.

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? I'm black, born in the fast.

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>All I do is lie? Why would I tell the

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>truth to white people? What good would that do me?

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>This is this is a time where white people are

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>overly hanging people. This is the time where white people

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>are openly killing Well, why would you ever tell somebody

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>white the truth in nineteen forty Damn, damn, that's real.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>That seems like a scam in itself.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting where I'm like, Also, the way that this

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 2>is phrase is like, were people trying to help her

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 2>or were they trying to like indict her, because if

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>they were trying to like indict her, yeah, obviously she's

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna be like, yeah, I'm crazy.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I left out that Linda Taylor is a bad bitch.

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>She's attractive, pull up a photo of her, Brodie. She's bad.

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>She's a little haughty, okay. And she's also like the

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>beginning of that racially ambutied, like.

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 2>She's sort of doing like the like uh you know,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>like those all those British girls who are light skin

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>in this city and they put on.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:27:00.360
<v Speaker 1>The door or oh the gras, yeah, I'm talking about here.

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>So she's like doing She was a little jars school. Yes, No,

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 1>she was sexy, honey. And also they wasn't allowing people

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to make these kinds of babies at the time, so

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>she was rare, you know, you know many Linda's walking

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>around on these streets, honey. And then also she was

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 1>a mad bitch, and she dressed good. She had style.

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>She's doing sort of like a female like pimpsit. Oh,

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>she was a bad, but she could never kill I

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.719
<v Speaker 1>really like that. Oh I got that picture of her

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and her lawyer is really what I feel like. You

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and I look like, oh, yeah, that is us, that's us.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>That's really great. I would be her lawyer. So I

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>think that also plays. It's a part of like, yeah,

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>people are trying to help her.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting that I mean, listen to me. She

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>looks at Aalian, you know what I mean. She looks

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>like spicy what she looks like. She does look kind

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 2>of like dua lipa. Like she's from Kosovo. Yeah, this

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Drina Ura Kosovo. They're all from Kosovo. But like, it's

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>interesting that she passes, you know what I mean. But

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>now when she's involved scatter. But if she's involved in

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the scam, no, I think it's like that thing where

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, she's black, like you like, like

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 2>they pushed her into the box of like blackness because

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>they were like, no, we don't.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Which is deeply unfair because if you're half white, you're

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>half white, you're half of both. But in this country,

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you're never half white. Yeah, except for Barack Obama, who

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>was the first person who was half white I've ever

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>heard in my life. She's literally a pass. Well, Barack

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Obama became president, white people came out and said he's

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>half white, and I was like, I've never heard that

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>phrase before ever, because they had no need for the phrase.

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>No one wanted he said, Barack's aid Obama a white.

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>They said, he's partly ours. Please Negroes pipe down, all right,

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>just hush now a little. It's not your first black president,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he's your first half white president. And I truly love that.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So it was nineteen seventy six. Now we've moved up

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>in time. She started scamming in the nineteen forties. In

0:28:56.320 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six, Ronald Reagan was president or he was

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>running for president and having trouble gaining traction as a

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>new candidate. Shook hands and diners. He did gymnasiums, town halls.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>He kissed on all the babies, and he hit upon

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>a crowd pleaser, like a riff that got attention by

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>playing into fears, which is what everyone in politics loves

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to do, is make you scared and make you racist.

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It works, It works too good. Like they're not going

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to give you health care, but they will make you

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>hate Mexicans. What and is that curing your cough? It

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>tracks to me, It tracks to me why I have

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a hit problem. But hating Mexicans has really improved.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>It I'm really serious, like debt after going to school.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>But ever since that sort of like a Muslim band, thinks,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>have been really looking up for you, really looking up

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>for my debt. Really, it's been paying itself. No, it's

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>it's the same amount of debt. Oh girl, Yeah, death

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't change. No, it feels like it's lighter.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, it's actually it's actually more interesting.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's how racism works, guys. It's a scam. Let

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it go. So call it a like nineteen seventies version

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>of Build that Wall. This is what Ronald Reagan was

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like going around with. So in Chicago, they found a

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>woman who holds the record. Reagan said she used eighty names,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty addresses, fifteen telephone numbers to collect food stamps, social Security,

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>veteran benefits for non existent diseased veteran husbands, deceased excuse

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>me for non existent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare.

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Her tax free cash income alone has been running one

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. This is an

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>audio recording from that time, and you can hear the

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>audience gas. So Ronald Reagan ran on the back of

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a black woman ran on the black of a back woman,

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the black of a black woman, and also the back

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of a black woman. With his new political trope, which

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>was coined welfare Queen, Ronald Reagan did this like, ron Meagan,

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you and your trap queen wife brought crack to the community,

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like truly, truly brought crack to the communities. And also

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you labeled us as welfare queen. And who is Republican's

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>most favorite president to date, Ronald fucking Reagan. He was

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>an actor. He's literally Donald Trump, but just like talked better. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 1>arguably equal or worse. It's it's it's interesting, And I

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>just want to say again the majority of people on

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>welfare are white white. It's yes, numbers, Okay, it's just

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>numbers of facts. But he used this to create an

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>image of black women that has stuck in people's minds

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to this day. A black woman eating chicken in the

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>in the low income house and nine the keys. It's

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the It reminds me kind of of like the whole

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>thing was voter fraud.

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>You remember there was that scare and they were like

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 2>people are going around voting sucks.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>No one's trying to scam an election. Not not people

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of color anyone.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.719
<v Speaker 2>But it's that same thing where it's like one person

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>did this thing, but you're using it as like a

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>way to propagate fear and anger towards a whole community

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that isn't deserving, and that.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Only happens to brown people because white guys get to

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>be individuals and shoot up as many movie theaters and

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>churches as they want. And we're just like, that's just

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>one guy. Well that's that is just one guy. If

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a lone wolf, you know what I mean.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>All those all those guys are just lone wolf separately

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>with the same ideology that have been radicalized from the

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 2>same place. No, they're alone, and also guns have personalities, so.

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You have to be nice to them, and they have rights.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they should have. All of that is hilarious.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like they have called it a lone

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>wolf because wolves travel in packs, and now there's been

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>so many lone wolves that they're a pack, right, They're

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a pack? Now? Yeah, Well, what's a lone animal that

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>would have worked better for? Like killing Randa? A student

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of fish? Maybe your some thing? I feel like a

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>student of fish. There's definitely just one guy by hisself.

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this on many podcasts, but I think

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>if you own an aquarium, you might be a murderer.

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>It tracks. Here's why. It's a pet that's in a

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>box and you put a little food on top every day,

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like here you go, bitch, here's your food, and then

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you watch you swim around. Just get hold on it.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And they can't pet, You can't talk to you. I

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you if it's sick. It's just like I've

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>got your little box, bitch, where you're gonna go. It's

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>true some fish look nice. They do look nice, But

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>why you gotta hold something and look at it? What

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>about you makes you want to have a big job?

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Cats are I think people. Cats are scary and yes

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they'll eat you when you die, but they're your friend.

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.959
<v Speaker 1>But fish can't do shit they like look nice. Am

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I a murderer? I think you might be a murderer.

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I have only murdered two people. Next, that doesn't make

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>me a murder. Murderer could be your new hobby. Okay, okay, listen,

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna encourage that. This is a true con podcast.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>We do not encourage crime than you, but just know,

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you know you might have the talent inside of you. No,

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't, and immediately go down. I would go down.

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So Linda Taylor quickly became a political tool, wielded for

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.720
<v Speaker 1>purposes far bond beyond her misdeed. It's so annoying. I'm annoyed.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm also thinking of like the eighties, like twenty one

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>year old like Coke bro who like just graduated from

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>GW and he's like writing speeches for Ronald Reagan and

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you gotta listen, mister Reagan, like this, I'm

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>telling you hitch all the way to the White House.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Reagan's like, what do you mean black? She looks Italian,

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>He's He's like, I love her so not from Kosovo. No,

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>she's black in reality. So they were making up the

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of money that she had stolen. They had kind

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of inflated it for political purposes. In reality, a grand

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>jury indicted her for receiving payments adding up to a

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>grand total of seven thousand, six hundred eight dollars in

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>two so, which later increased to eight thousand, six hundred

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry eighty eight hundred and sixty five dollars and

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven cents. So just To be clear, Ronald Reagan

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>said that she was raking in one hundred and fifty

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year and she had over eight grand.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm also just like, that's not a queen, Like that's

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>like a blacksmith. Like that's like the town cobbler. Like, right,

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>she could be a gesture at she she's a barmaid.

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you know that's not like the queen.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. That's crazy. I didn't know that

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it was that little.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Actually it's a lot, and it's still a scam.

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But also I'm like, I thought it was more money, right, Yeah,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>And here's the fucked up thing about the system is

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 1>it took Cook County fifty thousand dollars to convict her. Yeah,

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>not to mention what it costs to imprison her, nor

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the resources suspended to build a case against her. It

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>costs more money to put this black woman in jail

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 1>than she Still, Yeah, it's not shocking because it's how

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the prison industrial complex works. This is a very political episode. Sorry,

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 1>we're black and we're suffering. Welcome, Welcome, join us. There

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was like a hashtag not too long ago on Twitter

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that was like rest in piece of America. I'm like, bitch,

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? This country's constitution was written

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>by a bunch nasty old rapists and slaves owners. I

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>always it's like, whenever anybody's like, this isn't the America,

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I know, what did you know? It's like crazy. I

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>was back in New York the other day and I

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.439
<v Speaker 1>was listening to this this couple. They were having a fight.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>It was an old white man and his younger white girlfriend,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and she was like upset with him because they'd gone

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.919
<v Speaker 2>to like some political argument. I was trying to piece

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 2>it together. You can only do so much when you're

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>nosy and shopping.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I love your hustling, my favorite hustle. Oh, I love

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>your hustle. Work so hard to listen to other people's

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I really did, I really really. My mom taught me.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like pretending to read. It was crazy.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like flipping the pages, and I actually really

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 2>liked that. I had to try to remember my original page.

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 2>As I'm yeah, but so it's all about method. I'm

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>actually fairly method.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>H But I was.

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Listening to them arguing, and he basically well a big

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>part of their argument. They were both upset about Greta

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Tunburg because she was like, I like Gretitunburg and he

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, she's young. So that was part of their argument,

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 2>but it was basically about being political, and he was like,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 2>you're just you're radical, you know, And he was like.

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>What happened to civility? Back in my day? Two people

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>could come from opposite sides of the table and meet

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. And I back in my day we

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>strung ningers up on trees together. We did it gather

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and we were organized, we had juice.

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>And I also was like, if I want this conversation

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to happen as organically as possible, you know, like I

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>want I want them to be able to reach some

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>sort of agreement. But I also was like trying to

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>look at her and be.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, hey me over here, me, do you just

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>want to like you can maybe you could win this

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>argument if.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>You were just like but other people. But I think

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 2>she was also rich because she had at a point

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>they like stopped talking and to like, you know, give

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>themselves like a little argument break. And she was like

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 2>looking at her business on Instagram. She made furniture, I think,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>or re upholstered previously made furniture, and she only had

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>two sales for the whole last month. And I was like, well,

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>how can you afford a life if that's your business.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 2>So I think she was also generationally wealthy.

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Probably, you know, that's sweet, sweet generational wealthy.

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Y know, I really fucked up when my parents didn't

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>have generational wealth.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe my parents didn't have generational wealth. My

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.240
<v Speaker 1>parents were the first people, I think to go to college. Yeah,

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and they made money, so I got I did get

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>off on that scamp. But you know, we could have

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>been nasty rich. Yeah. I want to be rich where

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's definitely been murders. I want to be so

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>rich that you got a murder for your fortune. Rich

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>where like where like there's like we own bodies of

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 1>war water. Oh yes, I would love to own the Pacific.

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 1>You have like a little lake it's too cold. I

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>would warm it up. I would warm up the Pacific actively.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>And this is why black people actually can't have generational

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 2>That's actually why we don't deserve it, because we're trying.

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>To flex some war much to Pacific. You spend all

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>your money on warming up the Pacific.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Like he bought a polar ice cap and you made

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it hot because you thought that would be cool it.

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 1>See what happened her story and the eventual case. Wow,

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>what a tangent. I know, y'all go be my ass

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>on this episode. Oh well, can't find me. It's my fault.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it. I on her story.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>And and it's Black History months, so you get.

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly if you're mad at black innovation, this is

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 2>actually afrofuturism. And this is actually sort of like just

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like black dot eyes.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>I made that, and tell your white friends, tell your

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>white friends about black dot not even close to data.

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It'sm I just was looking for a word. So her

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>story and this is Linda Taylor, right, that's who we're

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Her story and the eventual case against her.

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Fuel to crackdown and the Illinois legislator on supposed welfare fraud, remember,

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>because she's fake stealing one hundred thousand dollars a year,

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Reagan, it's crazy, leading to an eighty eight percent

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>bump in the budget for the Designated Committee and partnership

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>with guess who, the Chicago motherfucking police. So now the

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>police getting to pay raise so they can go hunt

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>black and brown people for the welfare fraud that they're

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>not doing well.

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Also just the negligence and like actual like public service

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that that is.

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Doing, you know what I mean, Like it's horrible. So

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>three quarters of welfare fraud cases were referred to law

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>enforcement by nineteen seventy nine up to and this is

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like up twenty eight percent from nineteen seventy so just

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>in nine years because of Reagan. Now we're just like

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>harassing the shit out of people. The department began systematically

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>auditing the af DC and other programs. Lawmakers even set

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>up anonymous hotlines to receive tips about potential cheats. So

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>then I made a one eight hundred Karen number so

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.919
<v Speaker 1>that Karen could call when the negroes started to look

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 1>a little too rich.

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I would absolutely call that hotline for like people.

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, mad, you know you would. Oh my god, Hello,

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to h of care. Yes, I have a neighbor.

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Her name is Chandra. Yes, she's a black h if

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you need to know that for just since its purposes,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I think she might be doing welfare for us. Well,

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Hi, this is Karen. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>seeing Schandra actually doesn't have she's not a welfare no,

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but she's black. Wait a minute, y, since you called,

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll just arrest her anyway, Thank you so much, gorgeous,

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I will This is what's happening now. This is terrible. So,

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and the biggest problem with this program was not that

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 1>people were cheating system or whatever tailor style schemes they

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>were saying, but that the system was cheating them them. Yeah,

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>they use this. They The government was like, Linda is

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>onto something and now we want ours. Yeah, government is

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a scam. Yes, So they're the best.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Arguably the biggest one. We're living in a crumbling democracy.

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>About tax already crumbled. The government don't tell you how

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 1>much money you owe, but then if you don't pay them,

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>they'd be like, hey, actually this how much money you owe,

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>but we can't tell you until you don't pay us.

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Now you gotta go to jail. It makes no sense

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>how we pay taxes and then what does the money go?

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you actually know exactly where your tax dollar went?

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what pothole your coins field? No, you don't,

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have to tell you. Yeah. So government

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>was like Linda, yeah, like what you're doing? And we

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>want to add to it. None of it makes sense.

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>The government. I want to I think I have to

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>work in government at some point, just because no no, no, no,

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, don't look so tickle. I need to be

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a part of that sleep sweet scam Oh god, oh

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I love it. From sea to shine and sea Wow.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 2>That is hills and plains and valleys, et cetera, purple

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>mountain magisty yes for robber ree, I'm into it. So

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 2>a federal report that a federal report found that just

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 2>one percent of the annual budget of the Department of Health, Education,

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and Welfare was lost to unw unlawful or wilful misrepresentation.

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So basically one percent of money that was lost was

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>lost to fraud. But mind you, they've started policing people

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight percent higher than they were before.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the truth is Linda Taylor actually was a

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>scam artist who cheated the system quite prolifically, but not

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the way that society wanted her. She had gone by

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>at least eight different names by the time she was

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. She was apparently a kidnapper. Ooh, Linda, yess

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if a black woman takes you, is it kidnapping.

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Is it a wonderful experience? Probably kidnapping. Still, you're right,

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like it. Who's she kidnapped? You know, I need

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to figure that out, let's see. So it says books,

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like a legend. So ah, yes, ah, yes,

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the old legend of her maybe kidnapping someone. That's a

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that's lore. I truly don't know. And books written about

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>her life even suggests that she committed murder, which, okay,

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think people are just pontificating on

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a woman who is just brilliant and a good scammer,

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>but we don't know. So he presents Linda Taylor not

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>as a parable for anything grand, but as a singular

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 1>American scoundrel who represented nothing but herself, which I wish

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>more black people could just represent themselves.

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing, right, is like when that happens,

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>then it's it's like a big crime. Like it's like

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>a big it's this big, disgusting horror like.

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And I say he because I'm talking about Josh Levin.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, guys, Josh Levin wrote a book about Linda Taylor.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>That was the first thing I should have said. So

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>he presents Lynda Taylor not as a parable for anything grand,

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 1>but as a singular American scoundrel who represents nothing but herself,

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>which yeah, I would love to represent just myself.

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>That's the part of like American law is like you're

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be able to be anyone you want to be,

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>and if you come across things by like not so

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 2>great circumstances, like there's still like reward and like there's

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>something like cool and American about it. But if you're

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>like a black person who does that, you go to prison.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, yes, and then white people steal your story and

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>make a movie about it, but for sure probably erase

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you out of it. And it's crazy too because when

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>black people do good things, the good things don't represent

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>us as much as the bad things do. So it's

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>not even like, Okay, look at Michelle Obama, shouldn't black

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.240
<v Speaker 1>women be better revered? No, we still hate you, hosts,

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna use Cardi B as your reference, like

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>why they're famous. They're both very famous, and Cardi B

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>has done a lot of good stuff, but a lot

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of it. You might work in government one day. I

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>would love if Cardi B works in government like I

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>want it. I want to the White House, I want

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 1>that on a sign. I want to be out in

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the street. I don't want that. I never do, like

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a school board or something. Something has gone from government

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>now that Donald Trump has completely fucked over the scam

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of like politicians have to be eloquent. Anybody can get

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>they asked clapping in the White House, and we're not

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna give a fuck. There's what when you hire a rapist, racist,

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking it a a thief and you let him

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 1>be the president. And after that, where is the bar?

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>There's no more bar? No, I agree, I don't know

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>need to go back to suits. We don't need to

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 1>go back to eloquence. We don't need to go back

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to you not being high on adderall every day. Well,

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I see good things in this argument.

0:46:56.200 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I also would like a president who could read what why?

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Just would be nice? I don't know, just would be nice?

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.479
<v Speaker 1>You can read why a president need to read oh

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>my God by president illiterate? Wow?

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Is this like a great reminder of one of my

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>favorite things about like comedy, which is like you just

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 2>have to be able to make a good argument and

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 2>there doesn't have to be any there can be holes.

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>But as long as it's concrete. Yes. Well, Josh Levin, yes,

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>wrote this book, and he also in this book recalls

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>hints of buying and selling children on the black market.

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>We hold on.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 2>You can't leave this till almost the end. That's what

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Josh said, hints off hints. So does would have hints

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>of buying and selling children on the black market?

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>That feels like the whole like that's the answer. No,

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not a clue. That's the result. You bought and

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>sold children on the black market. Yeah, I don't understand.

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.760
<v Speaker 1>What are the hints? Are the hints like little clothes

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 1>that was left behind closed for little baby shoes for sale,

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.839
<v Speaker 1>So many baby shoes since she was always selling them

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 1>on the corner. Also baby also with children. I okay,

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>thinking about that, she's thinking about that. There's more weird stuff.

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 1>She befriended a sick woman named Patricia Parks, who then

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>died under suspicious circumstances. Can we pull up Patricia? I

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>think we got her on a tab. So Patricia Parks

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>died in June of nineteen seventy five after our barbituate

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.399
<v Speaker 1>overdose that was happening a lot at that time. That's

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>like how Jimmy Hendricks died. But Taylor was for a

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>while a suspect in Petitio's death but ultimately was never charged.

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>All they said was, that's another black woman dead. Wow.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Barbituates are kind of glamorous too, are they aren't they?

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be throwing up when you died.

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 2>That's not cool, but like, that's not It makes me

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 2>think of think of Jimmy Hendry.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>It makes me think of Valley of the Dolls. You've

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>seen that. This is an old movie and basically it's

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>about people going to Hollywood and then getting addicted to pills.

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's this scene where she goes, give me my dolls.

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I just looked like dolls, Give me my dolls. Glamorous. Yeah,

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so that glamorous for me. All I needed was that

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 1>spectacular performance. So maybe she murdered her friend, maybe she didn't.

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she stole some kids, maybe she didn't.

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Well, who among us? Who among us

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been to the black market.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Market? It's Black History Month, and I'm not judging the

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:43.399
<v Speaker 1>black car. The black market is a part of Black

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 1>History Months. It's not, but we will say it will

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 1>for these intensive purposes, so one of her husbands because

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.839
<v Speaker 1>she had a few hunting Sherman Ray was shot by

0:49:53.920 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>one of her cronies, and his family accused she has

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand Linda's life, especially given that Okay, so

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>especially given that he had taken out two life insurance

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 1>plans shortly before his death and Taylor was the beneficiary

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of both. Her husband Sherman Ray was shot by her cronies,

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're saying, and that she he had taken

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 1>out two life insurance policies like right before his death.

0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think there's things.

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I there's things missing from her life for me.

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way that this is arranged either,

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.759
<v Speaker 1>no shade, but no, no, it's just like, these are

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>the things I wanted to know in the beginning. Well

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>because okay, because I kind of was like defending her.

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:47.439
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, you can still defend her. Maybe she murdered

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>her husband, maybe she didn't. It's hard with.

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 2>The black market stuff and now knowing that she has cronies,

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.919
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to be like she's a scammer, Like she's

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 2>like a criminal.

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>She's a career criminal. Look, that's what that was I thinking.

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 2>She's sort of like was like going around trying to

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 2>have day jobs and it was hard.

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, she's a criminal. Okay, iow is getting off

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the scam train. Guys. I see her getting off the

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.919
<v Speaker 1>train right now with her hobo bag. I get back

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>on the trap.

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I just my little stick, my little stick in my

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Bandita are they're wavering?

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>They're weary on my shoulders. I was fully buckled into this.

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>My tiny little scampy little dog is barking. He wants

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to get off.

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 1>No, you want to stay off. This is where, this

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:33.240
<v Speaker 1>is where life is for your dog man. Oh no,

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 1>oh no, I've become a crony. You have, and you've

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>become microny. We'll have fun after this. I may or

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 1>may not have someone with life insurance policies that I

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 1>need you to kill. Oh my god, it's my mother.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.720
<v Speaker 1>So at various points, Taylor comes across mentally ill, pathological

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in her lies, and perhaps unable to distinguish what's real

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>from what's fake. At other times, Josh Levin, who is

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>describing her in this book called The Queen, suggests that

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>she seemed to know precisely which lever to pull, which

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I think is more accurate, like when you're getting a

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>psyche v out and like you need to She's like,

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>when you go to jury duty and you don't want

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to do jury duty, which black people, you have to

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>go to jury duty and you have to do it

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>because of racism. Sorry, I have to do it too.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But when you go to dury doing and you want

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to get out of it, you say the wrong thing

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>so that they kick you out. You're like, oh, how

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.879
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about cops? You'd be like I hate

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>them or I would have six with them all, Like

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to say something radical, insane so they'll kick

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you off the jury. I think that when you go

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>get a psyche vout and you know that if you

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 1>have a bad ev out, it's gonna help you. You

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 1>got to go in there and give them your best,

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, halle Berry, Wow, just give them your best.

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And in one of those movies where she loses her child, she's.

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Always like, Octavia Spencer and Law do that. That's a

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 2>three day performance.

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh but see that takes too long. I feel like

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the good thing about Octavia Spencer in Law is like

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't know she's crazy for a little while, Like, well,

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>then just do that just give to them. Skip to

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the just skip to the end of my folks.

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 2>If I can leave you with one thing, one recommendation,

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you.

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:09.240
<v Speaker 1>You gotta see ma It's fantastic. I have a friend

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in it who shows his butt. All right, he's actually

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 1>on the show at some point. The white guy. Yes, ooh,

0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>here ourch a little bit younger, Okay, that's tracks. The

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>same is Shohny Pallo. He's very cool. I like him

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot because on the show, you will hear that

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>episode at some point.

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 2>So watch mom, so support the working actors in.

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Mo got to So she's listed as white in a

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty census. I'm telling you she looks like she's

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>from Kosovo. She looks like she don't as white and

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Mexican on a nineteen forty five arrest report, and she's

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>listed as Hawaiian nineteen forty six resupport. So basically relate

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to that. She's like the Rock. Yes, you know, yes,

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>like every.

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Race that the Rock is listed Linda Taylor. Linda is

0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the rock tailor.

0:53:58.000 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Linda the Rock Tailor.

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 2>That's the earlier when said she's a little haughty hock girl,

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking Linda B.

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Taylor. I feel I still think this Linda Taylor's pretty hot.

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So no matter her background, Taylor did a monstrous things

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>while she was alive. Linda Taylor was a victim of

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>many things, including racism, family cruelty, and possibly mental illness.

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>She then went on to victimize a long list of

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 1>people herself, and those people are again maybe Sherman Ray

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 1>who died, maybe she murdered him. Children, various children who

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't know if she may or may not have sold.

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:33.800
<v Speaker 1>These are all hypotheticals.

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Would also like to be the type of person who

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:40.960
<v Speaker 2>somebody's like, we don't know if she sold a child.

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Technically, I don't know if you've sold a child. You

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 1>know that I haven't sold a child. I don't know

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that for sure. You know that I haven't been with

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>your life. See not on purpose, doubt, you're creating doubt.

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So Linda Taylor, maybe that wasn't even her real name,

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 1>but that's the name that stuck the longest. Died in

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two in a care facility near Chicago. Wow, Linda,

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 1>is this kind of like? This is a this is

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a tricky one. A lot of them

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 1>are She's got a checkered past. Yeah, because I will

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>say I don't encourage murder. This is a podcast that

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.879
<v Speaker 1>we fully don't focus on murder or you know, ian

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>focus on fun crime, true con. Yeah, and Linda may

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Or may not have been a murderer, but since we

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm gonna lean with now well innocent until

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>proven guilt. Right. But but when there's smoke, there's fire,

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like if people are like, maybe you murdered.

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:44.440
<v Speaker 2>And beyond smoke, it's like full fog at like a

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Diplow concert.

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>This is like dangerous levels. I don't know it's it's hazardous.

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe a queen. Okay, Okay, I love that you

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:02.399
<v Speaker 1>have to grapple with this hard. We can grapple during

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the break. We'll be right back with more scam Goddess

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:14.720
<v Speaker 1>rab right, Guys, stretching, I was stretching in the studio.

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 1>She's we've stressed her out. I'm still I'm glad she

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>came back after the break because she was trying to

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 1>jump off the scam train. Guys, so this is our

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>last second.

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 2>The little dog was like holding on to my cash pants.

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like trying to get off the train. And

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 2>he was like tugging me.

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So this is a scammer of the week, and why

0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:40.439
<v Speaker 1>not highlight another black queen we all probably know by

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:44.719
<v Speaker 1>now and love who used racism to her advantage, just

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like Linda Taylor, but maybe didn't murder anyone and maybe

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't sell any children on the black mart It's it's

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the maybe. So over the past few months, the conservative

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 1>sections of social media have become fixated on a walk

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 1>away campaign. This was month sigo, this isn't nineteen that

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.799
<v Speaker 1>was urging democrats minorities to take their blinders off and

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>join the Republican Party. It was called hashtag walk away

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:13.479
<v Speaker 1>God from who you are and everything you stand for

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to support racism that hurts you. That's the longer hashtag,

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>but the short hashtag was walk away. So this girl tweeted,

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and this was in twenty nineteen months ago. They so

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party seemed to have added a black college

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 1>student named Koran to the ranks. And the girl, she tweeted,

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I will not hide any longer. The left has made

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>us feel as if us black Republicans should hide. But

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>not in it all. Let me put on my Martin

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Luther King boys. But not at it all backs for Trump.

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 1>You walk away, Maga. You're singing make amracle great again

0:57:55.960 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to the mountain top. That's good. So the tweet went viral.

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>King Oh wow, that's pretty good. That's all King said.

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Every day. Wow. So he was like Martin that flaps

0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 1>weirdly got into like a have Lois. I was like,

0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a dream and she was like, wine, wow,

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to jail. I would like to

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>go to jail please. So the tweet went viral. She

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>got a momentary blast of internet fame, but things took

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a turn when Kuran tweeted a text conversation between her

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and her mom. She claimed that her parents disowned her,

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 1>kicked her out of her house, and refused to pay

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>her college tuition. To make ends meet, Koran set up

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 1>a go fund me my favorite scam platform and asked

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 1>for financial support from her new found Republican fan base.

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>If you could find it in your hearts, racist white

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 1>people to help this young black Republican pay for school

0:58:55.960 --> 0:59:00.360
<v Speaker 1>organ it would be appreciated, she tweeted. Less than three

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>hours after claiming to be disowned by her family, Karan

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>revealed the text messages and the MAGA hat were a

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:13.200
<v Speaker 1>ruse to scam desperate, insecure Republicans, so our rumor started

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<v Speaker 1>circulated that she had raised more than hundred fifty thousand

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>dollars over the phone. Karan admitted that she didn't raise

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<v Speaker 1>much of anything, and that she'd refunded what she had received.

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<v Speaker 1>That's between me and the irs, she said, coyly. When

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<v Speaker 1>asked how much she's gotten a queen, she said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just decided to refund everyone and give them their money back.

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was maybe like two hundred dollars at

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that point. Email screenshots she had backed up this claim. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>go Fundme refunded at least ninety dollars one fifty donation

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<v Speaker 1>and one for twenty That don't add up to ninety

0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>dollars seventy dollars. What's going on? I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being scammed out of research today, So, she says, I

0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>just honestly didn't want to take their money. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>can pay for school, but I don't. I want Republican

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<v Speaker 1>money to pay for it. You give me, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best kind of money to pay for it. I want

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<v Speaker 1>Republican money to pay for everything. I want Republican money

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for my wax, your wax, Yeah, my wax

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<v Speaker 1>in my vagina. I would love for that to be

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<v Speaker 1>funded by Republican money.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I think if a Republican was listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, they'd be like, this is why I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in in any sort of socialist like take on

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<v Speaker 2>the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting government refunds to go to European Wax Center. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy though.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if you're a Republican, you believe that like

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<v Speaker 2>money should go to war and like big guns, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't believe it. Your Republican used to stand for

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<v Speaker 1>to you getting your vagina wax.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it, What is the greatest weapon of mass

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<v Speaker 2>destruction the vagina?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because it didn't used to be that way,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Republicans like, yeah, there's always been like a taste

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<v Speaker 1>of racism in the soup, you know, for flavor, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't don't have anything else really like openly this racist.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you could be a Republican and just actually just

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<v Speaker 1>be really selfish about giving your money to people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of nice, very wonderful white people who

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want to help the polar Yes, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>now their party stands for racism. They're like, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we were doing. We just didn't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>have things. Yeah, yeah, we want to kill them. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's slow, not having resource exactly. That's the that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the civil way to do it. Yes, So she says

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<v Speaker 1>her only regret is that she wished a better photo

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<v Speaker 1>of her gone viral. Yea cool. But yeah, she scammed these,

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<v Speaker 1>She says, she gave the money back. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved this scam more if she kept all the money,

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<v Speaker 1>because she would have. They were like, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>gone bananas. Why. That's the thing about GoFundMe that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand is like people be like, oh, well, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not really sick. You have to give all the money back?

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<v Speaker 1>Why gofund me is a platform for scammers and liars.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with making up a fake go fundme

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<v Speaker 1>and my can okay, cause think about it, How did

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<v Speaker 1>life change if my kid didn't really break his leg?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you gonna know he broke his leg and you

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<v Speaker 1>paid me twenty dollars for it? No? Either way, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had a hypothetical child, which I do not have,

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<v Speaker 1>any so good at making convincing arguments. Are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sleep differently? No? You can you get to feel good

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<v Speaker 1>that you contributed to my non existent son's broken leg

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<v Speaker 1>fund This is fascinating. I don't know what. I have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to say because there's nothing to be said. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and go fund me should not make you refund the

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<v Speaker 1>money just because you didn't make the web series, which

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<v Speaker 1>I know y'all not making them web series. I know

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<v Speaker 1>y'all stealing that money. And you know we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch a web series either way. I say web

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<v Speaker 1>series are different. No, people ain't making them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I think like it's like if it's health,

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<v Speaker 2>like that should be real. If it's like hey, should

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<v Speaker 2>be real because like, actually people are dying on medical.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is your So you was gonna get say,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars to the person who was actually not? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he was not yeah, or try to he was gon' even?

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<v Speaker 2>But the web series is like if you donate money

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<v Speaker 2>to like an artistic venture, like you that there's like

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<v Speaker 2>inherent evil in that, even if it's good, there's inherent

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<v Speaker 2>evil And in supporting art. No one should support the

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<v Speaker 2>arts supported shouldn't be supported. I'm just saying guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know if anybody on GoFundMe got their chemo

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<v Speaker 1>or got their leg fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, if they got that. Yeah, I'm always making up.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't follow ups on go fund me. I see a

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<v Speaker 1>sad story, I throw a coin and I hope for

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Sometimes I do a follow up because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like did you get healthy? Like? Did you? I

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<v Speaker 1>get invested in people's personal stories as well. I like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. I love to donate to a classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to donate. See that's bullshit. You know, where

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<v Speaker 1>is your pencil money going? Wait what you go see

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<v Speaker 1>the clean nex of the kids put their bugger's in.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna see where your money went. Oh my,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like long con you know what I mean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like long cme. Then then then then one day there's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the kids is president. You're like, I gave

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<v Speaker 1>you piscils. Now No, He's like, he doesn't know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of it. He goes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, one day I was I was in my

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<v Speaker 2>little classroom. It was third and there was a there

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<v Speaker 2>was a sneeze in my body that rumbled so much

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<v Speaker 2>in my it almost shook me to the court let

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<v Speaker 2>it out, and I almost sneezed bullets and all on

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<v Speaker 2>the chief of police who was visiting our school.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a tissue.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a tissue and I blew my nose and

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<v Speaker 3>that saved me from going down to school to prison

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<v Speaker 3>pipeline and now I'm president.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like that requires to donate money to that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that makes sense. Keep scamming go fund me congregation. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we've reached the end of the episode. What a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Black History Month. Okay, I'm gonna do what I want. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just when the tailor story all over the place, very crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>don't tweet me about it. Just enjoy the ride. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>this is a comedy podcast. I Where can people find you?

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<v Speaker 1>People can find me online.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is it and that's where you can find

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<v Speaker 2>me at Iowa Debris. On Twitter and Instagram. You can

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<v Speaker 2>find me at my house. My address is.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want people find you.

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<v Speaker 2>My address is uc B Franklin. I live on top

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<v Speaker 2>of uc B Franklin. You can come there snacks at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the theater. I sit there and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>eat your snacks.

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening, guys? As always, you can find us

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<v Speaker 1>at scamgudspot at gmail dot com. Email us your scams.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure they're nice and old and retired, like the

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<v Speaker 1>scams that we got today, which you cannot do in

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<v Speaker 1>modern times. And I love those scams and guys as always.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me a d I v A l

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<v Speaker 1>A c I Diva Lacey on all platforms. Follow me,

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<v Speaker 1>watch my Instagram stories. I got attacked by clown, That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into a clown twice, and I might as

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<v Speaker 1>well just say this because I'm still here. Ran into

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<v Speaker 1>a cloud. It's kind of my fault. Ran into a clown.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. He was dressed as the joker in a

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<v Speaker 1>Food for Us, which is like a very very bad

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<v Speaker 1>food store that you should never really all into. And

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<v Speaker 1>I filmed him a little bit and he like looked

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Yeah, he saw me filming. Then I was

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<v Speaker 1>driving out Hollywood Boulevard on my way to shoot something,

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<v Speaker 1>and the same clown was their hard argument with someone

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<v Speaker 1>who looked like Harley Quinn but had a bat but

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<v Speaker 1>like a very sad Haley queen and yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 1>started fighting, and then he saw me and I was

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<v Speaker 1>taking a picture again. Then he came up to my cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally the plot of The Joker where the Jokers being.

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<v Speaker 2>Attacked by black women. That's all the Joker years about.

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<v Speaker 1>He got in front of my car, stopped my car

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of traffic. All the other traffic keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going right, the Joker sitting on my car. He's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to wrestle the bat from Harley Quint, who's maybe his lover.

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<v Speaker 1>People have told me they've seen them make out on

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<v Speaker 1>the train and he's trying to take her back to

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<v Speaker 1>my brand new Mercedes. And yes, literally the plot of

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<v Speaker 1>The Joker, this is Todd Phillips is the Joker. So yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be out here filming people for the GRAM. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>doing shit for Cloud. I will stop as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>I almost got my fucking break speed off my car.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, hey, wow, this is an.

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<v Speaker 2>Insane You can just do like signs and inanimate objects

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<v Speaker 2>for Cloud and even objects are fine, not people.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait really quickly, I'm thinking about Joker now.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do you think that Todd Phillips like was in

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<v Speaker 2>love with the black woman and then she like dumped

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<v Speaker 2>him brutally and that's why he made Joker Because every

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<v Speaker 2>single woman in Joker is like black.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, I know who's like kind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that. Meaning him, it's yeah, that's what it's

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<v Speaker 1>not for me. It isn't. I didn't want to sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the theater because, you know, the movie be popping off.

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<v Speaker 1>They had too many warnings talk about we looking for shooters.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not going to that movie. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I once actually had a weird moment went to a

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater and looked at the seating arrangement and we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>where would we be able to get out of live

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a shooting? And so we're planning this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the guy next to us was buying tickets

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is America, we're talking about to

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<v Speaker 1>exit anyway. This is insane. Guys follow us places. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not after that, but that's fine. Tweet has positive things

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<v Speaker 1>about this. It's Black History Month. Go rate this episode

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<v Speaker 1>five stars and give me a nice review and stop

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<v Speaker 1>spelling my name. Oh I have a podcast too, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>plug your podcast, Jesus, Oh my gosh. It's called Iconography.

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<v Speaker 2>I coast it with my friend Olivia Kraikhead, who's also

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<v Speaker 2>a black woman, who was raised by a white mother,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like her a lot so lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna cut that part out, so oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we talk about celebrity culture, and we bring on

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<v Speaker 2>fun guests and they talk about people who are icons

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We play games and we talk and it's fun. If

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<v Speaker 1>you like celebrities and people who are neurotic, well that's

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. All right, guys, if you lasted this long,

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<v Speaker 1>If you lasted this long, I'll tell you one secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Wells and you were right. I did murder somebody. You

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<v Speaker 1>were right all along. We're leaving. You'll never guess where

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<v Speaker 1>they're buried. The top of the US Franklin Hatory. Ye okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Godess