Speaker 1: Scaled cod, rub and rub scam, come rob and froll
Speaker 1: gob goddess. What's up, congregation, we are back with another
Speaker 1: installment of Scam Goddess. It's your girl. Lacey Mosley aka
Speaker 1: scam Goddess. I named the show after me with a
Speaker 1: very obvious alias. Hi, guys, I'm so excited. I met
Speaker 1: this girl in the bathroom. This is good. I met
Speaker 1: her in the bathroom and I loved her so much. Guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's Forbes thirty under thirty, Comedy Central digital
Speaker 1: writer for Sunnyside. Also just the youngest, coolest hippos. Like
Speaker 1: I am sucking her energy out like I am a
Speaker 1: witch from hocus Pocus right now, I'm so into it, guys,
Speaker 1: I have I won't kill her. I will suck to
Speaker 1: the point of so, but then I'll stop. We have
Speaker 1: I out a Deboie. I did it perfect, Thank you perfect.
Speaker 1: I hate people's name I know it's hard. It's a
Speaker 1: big pet people of mine. I don't ask you four
Speaker 1: times because you can only ask in the beginning. It's true,
Speaker 1: because like when you meet somebody, you gotta be like,
Speaker 1: what's your name? Okay, what'sh your name? A game? I
Speaker 1: will say.
Speaker 2: There are people, there are comics that we know who
Speaker 2: I like, and who I know like me back because
Speaker 2: they hang out with me and are friendly with me
Speaker 2: and they call me Ao. And it's to the point
Speaker 2: of it's too late, you know, like we've hung out
Speaker 2: like a few times, and I tried to make the
Speaker 2: initial adjustments. I tried to remind but I think they
Speaker 2: just have an opinion set and.
Speaker 1: So I have an opinion. They've got an opinion.
Speaker 2: They have something that they want to say about my name,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let them say it.
Speaker 1: I think wild take. It's never too late to correct
Speaker 1: someone on your name. Don't let it. I know you
Speaker 1: can let it. Months go by, but it's fun. It's been.
Speaker 1: It's okay, reaching a year. Almost everyone feels better when
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, this is my name, because then you're
Speaker 1: they're gonna find out at some point. They're either gonna
Speaker 1: see it on TV where they're going to see another
Speaker 1: friend go up to you and be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up, and they're gonna be like, who is I'm
Speaker 1: telling it? It's been.
Speaker 2: There's been a situation. I some people will be like
Speaker 2: oh Io. Any other person will be like, yes, Ao,
Speaker 2: like everybody thinks they're right.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Oh so that Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a marriage story. It's a marriage story, but it's about
Speaker 1: my name. Oh god, marriage story. Adam Driver's character was wrong.
Speaker 1: That was very obvious. Yeah, but it's from the perspective
Speaker 1: of a guy. So no, so it's complicated. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: I was like, no, he asked so like he even
Speaker 1: said it that he will ask why are watching this? Yes,
Speaker 1: the marriage story was strange. I'm sorry, y'all. That story
Speaker 1: has been told a billion times. There's a white man
Speaker 1: who thought he was more interested than what he was
Speaker 1: and was sucking the life out of his wife. Why
Speaker 1: men get married and then they resent their wise? They
Speaker 1: get married so fast and there like marriage the old
Speaker 1: ball and chain, Right, it's like, you got ball, you
Speaker 1: made the chain. What are you talking about? You bought
Speaker 1: the chain? My god? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like is my my hot film take
Speaker 2: is that? I think Bombback said everything he had to
Speaker 2: say about divorce when he made squid on a whale,
Speaker 2: and anyone who cares.
Speaker 1: About that can come back. I mean, squint in the
Speaker 1: whale goes off. Okay, tweeted us about squid on the Whale.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, is that it is
Speaker 1: a squid on the whales? That what you said, the
Speaker 1: squid end of the way, the squid and the whale
Speaker 1: or squid on the wave on the whale. I want
Speaker 1: to see that. Make that That sounds like a porn,
Speaker 1: like an amateur porn. Yeah. Yeah, what's your relationship with scams?
Speaker 1: I appreciate a good scam. I appreciate the right place.
Speaker 2: I like, I like to look at it. Today, I
Speaker 2: was actually thinking about one of my favorite scams of
Speaker 2: all time because Jlo is hosting or is performing.
Speaker 1: At the super Bowl halftime. She is, which is a
Speaker 1: scam in itself, and her whole career is one long scam.
Speaker 1: Oh the longest con Jaylo can't sing? And did you
Speaker 1: know that Jlo does know that she can can't sing? Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that is. She did an interview and
Speaker 1: then she was like, I never knew that people didn't
Speaker 1: think I could sing. I thought I could sing.
Speaker 2: Like she thought that she was on she thinks she's
Speaker 2: on multiple tracks, but it's not her, like it will
Speaker 2: literally be a shanty or Christina Milian or like another
Speaker 2: girl who sounds like her.
Speaker 1: Like it's other people and the royalties. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1: That's a scam, not a shanty. No, it's I'm rewriting history.
Speaker 1: So so she thinks she's on these tracks, I'm confused.
Speaker 2: I think she like or she thinks that she's still
Speaker 2: good even though like she's.
Speaker 1: Not singing for most of these songs.
Speaker 2: Like and I was reading up because I was just
Speaker 2: I just I was fascinated. I became fascinated for myself
Speaker 2: and a lot of the like uh like write ups
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: Song will be like Jayla didn't have time to make
Speaker 1: it to the studio. Like Jaylah was busy. It's like
Speaker 1: doing what not singing? Obviously, where was she? I love
Speaker 1: having your name on a track but then being too
Speaker 1: busy to actually sing on it. That is fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that I aspire to. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's wild, but still making money. That's what I want. Well,
Speaker 1: just a little safe and I love that. Also, she's Jenny.
Speaker 1: She uses Jenny in the block, she uses human growth.
Speaker 1: She does when she works out. That's why her body's
Speaker 1: so good. He really, Yeah, she gets shot. I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing Yeah, I want that. J Lob sweet sweet bot.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna project myself with human growth sore. Scary. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's so she's fiy I just got her che.
Speaker 2: Is that healthy to inject yourself with human growth hormone hormo?
Speaker 1: Everything? Now? And then? Look, it's just like and alcohol.
Speaker 1: Everything's bad for you. You got to do it in moderation.
Speaker 1: Got do your human growth hormone and moderation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I get my blood transfusions from young queer
Speaker 2: black men, I med buck, I that in moderation.
Speaker 1: I'm ed Buck edbuc finally is going to jail. He
Speaker 1: is a scammer that we can't talk about. That's not
Speaker 1: a scam that's he's not If you don't know who
Speaker 1: ed Buck is, looking up. He was a donor to
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, but only because the Republican Party kicked
Speaker 1: him out because of hopophobiabia. Yeah, he really liked tobos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he Yeah, he was out here killing black man.
Speaker 1: He has so many black men die his house. It's
Speaker 1: not cool to have that many people die in your house.
Speaker 1: And then the cops are just like another one. I
Speaker 1: guess this is fine? Like why that?
Speaker 2: Also, there was like a network of people who were like, Hey,
Speaker 2: ed Buck's probably gonna ask you to go to his house.
Speaker 1: Don't do it, you might die, like not ideal. Well,
Speaker 1: you start getting p s a sol people don't come
Speaker 1: to your dinner parties. You do something wrong with your house.
Speaker 1: But let's get to the first segment, that is what's
Speaker 1: hot and fraud. So this is where we just like
Speaker 1: warn our listeners what's hot in fraud. Sometimes we get
Speaker 1: like a fun listener letter and we just say that
Speaker 1: and and today it's a fun listen to a letter
Speaker 1: from Scamala Anderson. Oh wow, good for her. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: coined that name herself and wrote it in the commons.
Speaker 1: It's great, Hey Scamala, Scamdala Bassett. Oh, Scamdala Bassi's good.
Speaker 1: Don't want to light somebody's carl fire with a cigarette on.
Speaker 1: Oh so it's the least you deserve it. Yes, so,
Speaker 1: Scamla says, girl, I love the show. Okay, thank you, Scambala.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip the other compliments, but thank you, she says. So. Anyway,
Speaker 1: my retired scam consisted of buying an item, usually big ticket,
Speaker 1: at a big box store. Then I go back into
Speaker 1: the store the next day with the receipt, get the
Speaker 1: same item off the shelf, and then go get your
Speaker 1: money back. Technology killed the scam. She said, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 1: the serial numbers. Yeah, because before cereal numbers, you probably
Speaker 1: could just roll up in that bitch and be like,
Speaker 1: yeah about this same washer and dryer yesterday, roll it
Speaker 1: to the front, give them the receipt, they pay you
Speaker 1: for your drive.
Speaker 2: Wait also, wait, hold on when was this happening? She
Speaker 2: doesn't put a year, but it had to have been
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like where are you? And that's kind of also
Speaker 2: I'm like where are you? Because I feel like some places,
Speaker 2: like if they're more like small town or yeah.
Speaker 1: Rule, they'd be like, oh, scam, all, good to see you. Dang,
Speaker 1: your washer's really messing up. You gotta check a pistol.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Yeah, just roll it in. So
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Good Girls where they go to
Speaker 1: the big box. Have you seen I Love Good Girls?
Speaker 1: Scammers It's coming back in February. Watch it. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: so good. It's basically Mad Money, the plot of the
Speaker 1: movie Mad Money. But then like they make it a
Speaker 1: TV show that's good. Yeah with the white woman from
Speaker 1: Mad Men. Who a camera, her name, thank you, I
Speaker 1: love her, Retta and May Whitman. You know all their names?
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't actually, so this is as I said
Speaker 1: the show. There was a blank look in your eyes
Speaker 1: and you listed all the.
Speaker 2: My scam, my personal scam is that I got a
Speaker 2: BFA and playwriting, and I learned that in order to
Speaker 2: succeed this into street, you don't actually have to have
Speaker 2: seen things. You just have to know who is in
Speaker 2: it and what it's generally about. Oh, spend enough time
Speaker 2: on IMDb and you can wheedle your ways.
Speaker 1: One episode of everything. That's also that's all. That also works.
Speaker 1: Then you get tone.
Speaker 2: People love talking about tone. Yeah, tone makes me horny.
Speaker 1: So the next scam the SCAMLA sent us two SAMs.
Speaker 1: The other scam is she said another one I just
Speaker 1: thought up, which I love that she's writing as if
Speaker 1: she's talking, and she says, I worked at a convenience
Speaker 1: store and fountain drinks were keyed in manually. I would
Speaker 1: key it in and pocket the money and I was
Speaker 1: taken home around one hundred and fifty dollars a day. Jesus.
Speaker 1: But the store got robbed and I was out scammel
Speaker 1: it was robbing the store every day. What you mean
Speaker 1: it was out when they got robbed't scalon, No, that's home.
Speaker 1: That's where she drew the line. She was like, someone
Speaker 1: else robbed the store with a gun. Do you see
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: This to me is like a thing where I'm like
Speaker 2: where are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, Because like convenience store chains, especially, I
Speaker 1: think the bigger the store, the less people care about
Speaker 1: the minutia and the semantics, which makes a little scam
Speaker 1: perfect because if it's like a mom and pop gas
Speaker 1: the lead station where everybody knows your names, like cheers,
Speaker 1: you're gonna know mom and Pop.
Speaker 2: It's important, it's it's it's it's moral to steal from corporation, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because they're evil inherently, Like I think all women should
Speaker 2: should steal make up tampons.
Speaker 1: We should definitely steal tampon.
Speaker 2: I had a friend who worked at Redacted Corporation, and
Speaker 2: I'm afraid they'll find him.
Speaker 1: But he worked at.
Speaker 2: Facebook and a Facebook they have read they have such
Speaker 2: nice like amenities, and I would just go to the
Speaker 2: bathroom and I'm bring in a toe bag and I
Speaker 2: would steal all the tampons.
Speaker 1: You were joining the right thing, and.
Speaker 2: I would just take them put in my bag, and
Speaker 2: it's like they're gonna buy more, so might as well.
Speaker 1: Also, the least they could do for women, Thank you.
Speaker 2: They're stealing all my data, I might as well be
Speaker 2: able to reap a little bit of something from it.
Speaker 1: Also, like how many women are on Facebook, you probably
Speaker 1: stole tampons from one woman.
Speaker 2: She feels like this sort of thing, like you know, when
Speaker 2: the first woman went into space for like six days,
Speaker 2: they gave her one hundred tampons into space, Like they
Speaker 2: sent her into space.
Speaker 1: Think she was going to start bleeding more in space Marshowski,
Speaker 1: This comic has a really funny song about it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they sent her into space with one hundred tampons,
Speaker 2: And that feels like that same energy or Facebook is
Speaker 2: like we have.
Speaker 1: Three women working here, but we'll get ten thousand tampons
Speaker 1: every day, every single day because that way, if a
Speaker 1: woman ever happens in this bathroom, we're like, look what happens.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what it's like, ladies, You know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. When you just start your period
Speaker 2: and you be bleeding for a year straight and so,
Speaker 2: because that's how blood works and so you need one
Speaker 2: hundred tampons a day.
Speaker 1: I'd be bleeding all day or day. They're so dumb.
Speaker 1: But also I think it's to create that illusion of like,
Speaker 1: there must be so many women who work here, because
Speaker 1: look at many industrial boxes of tampons we have in
Speaker 1: the bathroom for bitches that definitely work. A Facebook with
Speaker 1: vaginas with vaginas or not, yeah exactly or not or not.
Speaker 1: I wish Facebook was that. I hate them so much.
Speaker 1: I hate the power they have over me. At this moment,
Speaker 1: I need to let it go. Guy yourself, Yes, the
Speaker 1: personal power that Mark Zuckerberg has over me. You. I
Speaker 1: can hear this right, he's listening everywhere. He's in this room.
Speaker 1: That weird ass haircut, beauty little eyes. Oh, such a
Speaker 1: nasty looking man. All right, guys, we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: quick break right back scarf. Oh all right, guys, and
Speaker 1: we're back, and it's time for historic hoodwinks, which is
Speaker 1: my favorite segment of the show. Is his where I
Speaker 1: will regale Ayah with a very famous hoodwink and we'll
Speaker 1: just get her opinions all throughout. Interjected in between Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: little director's commentary. Yes, So today's story hoodwink, which is
Speaker 1: I was a black woman. If you don't know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know that. No, I'm telling everyone, I'm dosing you black.
Speaker 1: I do this almost every show because I'd be saying
Speaker 1: nigga a lot. That's the first nigga of the show.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily sound black on the airwaves.
Speaker 1: So I just got to remind you, guys.
Speaker 2: People in this, in this, in this what do you
Speaker 2: call this thing like a podcasting universe have told me
Speaker 2: that I sound like Jess McKenna before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could get I could hear that.
Speaker 2: And we've only met her once. But I didn't think
Speaker 2: when we talked that we sounded like each other.
Speaker 1: Maybe we chose a deeper voice than you do, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. Well, then I'll pitch it down.
Speaker 2: But any white Hey, guys, this is Jess McKenna, and
Speaker 2: I'm here saying, then.
Speaker 1: That's what nigga. That nigga sounded very white. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is Jess McKenna. This is probably mean. No, I love it.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Jess would love it. Just probably loves it.
Speaker 1: So this is important though, because I wanted another black
Speaker 1: woman on the show to discuss this scammer because it's
Speaker 1: a delicate topic. Yes, it's the Welfare Queen, and boy,
Speaker 1: oh boy, did that name do a number on our community.
Speaker 1: Just want to remind you guys that the majority of
Speaker 1: people on welfare are white. It is a fact there
Speaker 1: a lot of them are in California, but they are
Speaker 1: the black and the Welfare Queen. Really when we talk
Speaker 1: about a hit for the culture, like really like DC
Speaker 1: sniper level hit where like we were like, black people
Speaker 1: don't kill people at random, we kill people with a
Speaker 1: small amounts of money, like, and then the DC sniper
Speaker 1: came out and was just literally shooting everybody. And then
Speaker 1: we had to spin it and we was like, well,
Speaker 1: he was also spent a time with his sons, so
Speaker 1: he was a good dad. It's a good that's which
Speaker 1: is all so brutal to have to be Like I
Speaker 1: guess the spin is fatherhood. I don't know. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was hanging out with his son. He took his son
Speaker 1: to lost of murders. Like, how do we fix this?
Speaker 1: So the Welfare clean did a number on the black community,
Speaker 1: But I love her. Today we celebrate the Welfare c Day,
Speaker 1: We celebrate the welfare class history months. Oh no, oh no,
Speaker 1: we call her Linda from the for the for here
Speaker 1: on out. But Linda Taylor was born in nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 1: The arms the twenties were like real and also like
Speaker 1: this is a bad time for black people. So I
Speaker 1: can't believe I even tried to call her the welfare Clay.
Speaker 1: She's just out here trying to live her life. I'm
Speaker 1: not mad, she's just trying to get to neutral. What
Speaker 1: am I saying? Every day's a bad day for black
Speaker 1: people in this country. It's not gotten that much better,
Speaker 1: all right, Well a little bit, but not a lot.
Speaker 1: So we have lake phones and showers. Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: phones and showers. But that stuff that everybody had specifically rights,
Speaker 1: Why yeah, that's what That's what I had to offer,
Speaker 1: phones and towers. So her name was Martha Louise White,
Speaker 1: and gold Dust, Tennessee is where she was born. And
Speaker 1: she was born to a white woman named Lydia Moone White,
Speaker 1: a little white person named white. What is this? Tone?
Speaker 1: Is this for black stream? And she was born what
Speaker 1: and white? So this is her mother? So she Mark
Speaker 1: Louis White is the welfare Queen. Linda Taylor's original name,
Speaker 1: and then her father was a Negro and she had
Speaker 1: been conceived in Alabama, where at the time sexual relationships
Speaker 1: between white folks and black folks legal and punishable by prison. Honey.
Speaker 2: The family frequently lied about the race. I want like
Speaker 2: tiny little piano piano too.
Speaker 1: We would have to edit in a that's definitely the music,
Speaker 1: as telling the truth could have made her mother guilty.
Speaker 1: Matha grew up in the child interns sharecrop who made
Speaker 1: little money, and we're gonna have to fuggle the levels
Speaker 1: on this. People are gonna hate this. I have to stop.
Speaker 1: They will hate that and we will have to fuggle
Speaker 1: the levels. So the family frequently lied about her race
Speaker 1: and telling her that she was, you know, a white person,
Speaker 1: which is a common thing, especially in Louisiana. Like, there's
Speaker 1: lots of creole people who passed for Where are you from, Louisiana, Dallas, Dallas, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: but I have family in the Muisuma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boston, Boston. Yeah, there's no passing. There's no passing
Speaker 2: in Boston, Boston. You're either Irish, Catholic, or black or Vietnamese.
Speaker 1: Oh, they will give you Vietnamese. Yeah. And then and
Speaker 1: then there's like Hislanics have to be black. There's Cape
Speaker 1: Verdian people.
Speaker 2: There's not that many Hispaniic and Latino people in like
Speaker 2: it's like certain neighborhoods, it's like very racial, like racially segregated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why how Pittsburgh is a little neighborhood its
Speaker 1: own race. And yeah, there's not a lot of mixing.
Speaker 2: There's it's yeah, it's like there's definitely a separation, but
Speaker 2: there's not. There's not a lot of passing, even though
Speaker 2: I did meet one. There's one girl I met who
Speaker 2: who is a black girl. She's half black, and she's
Speaker 2: the only black person I've ever met with the Boston accent.
Speaker 2: Oh raised, that sounds horrible white family. It wasn't horrible.
Speaker 2: It was just deeply fascinating. And I think about her
Speaker 2: a lot a lot.
Speaker 1: It's I always feel for black people who get raised
Speaker 1: by the white part of the family. Oh, I do,
Speaker 1: because either they ignore your race and like she's just
Speaker 1: like ash, she's just damn or they like indoctrinate racism
Speaker 1: into your soul.
Speaker 2: Oh No, I feel like there's gotta be a middle ground.
Speaker 1: Can you not always guess when someone is half black
Speaker 1: and they have a black mom. I can. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I come. Well.
Speaker 2: Honestly, there's a certain nage where it's like, oh, there's
Speaker 2: like hair, You're like you, like you. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's either like they're working through hair and like getting
Speaker 2: to a good place, or their hair is like immaculate
Speaker 2: because it was like so rough during childhood and now
Speaker 2: they're like no, no, no, I know how to do
Speaker 2: this perfectly.
Speaker 1: There will be no mistakes. I am free the shackles.
Speaker 1: Take the shackles off my feet, take off my hair,
Speaker 1: or as we say here, take the shackles off my feet.
Speaker 1: So I scam, Wow, that's good, feel good. I didn't
Speaker 1: come up with that. Someone else did. Don't know who.
Speaker 1: That's Twitter for you, but I won't steal it. I'm
Speaker 1: not Lizzo. I will say I got it off Twitter.
Speaker 1: So Martha grew up the child of innerant sharecroppers who
Speaker 1: made a little bit of money honey and were devastated
Speaker 1: by droughts of floods all the time. It was always
Speaker 1: droughting or flooding, which is some bullshit. It was either
Speaker 1: dry or it was real wet. This is like biblical.
Speaker 1: It was too wet or too dry, so on top
Speaker 1: of the financial deprivation, she was often made to feel
Speaker 1: like an outsider in her own family and community because
Speaker 1: of rays mixed race. She was expelled from an all
Speaker 1: white school at the age of six and didn't make
Speaker 1: it past the second grade. So must have been in
Speaker 1: that all white schools. Some Negro came out and they
Speaker 1: were like, wait a minute, wait a minute, is this
Speaker 1: tan white woman black? She just should have said she
Speaker 1: was Italian. She really should have. But at that time,
Speaker 1: I think Italians was still getting it rough. White people
Speaker 1: had united as one white front. That's true. In America,
Speaker 1: that's true. They still was talking about Irish people like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, all splitting up. Now they're like,
Speaker 1: make America great again. We're all the same robot human
Speaker 1: you know. They got together like the Power Rangers and
Speaker 1: was like it's racist time. It's like everybody got off Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, just white cloaks, just real pristine gloves, all ripers,
Speaker 2: all of it.
Speaker 1: Well, should have.
Speaker 2: Known apple bottom jeans, boots with the spurs, anything there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay. So she gave birth to her
Speaker 1: first child in nineteen forty around the age of fourteen,
Speaker 1: and would go on to give birth to four more
Speaker 1: over her lifetime. That sucks. I know that's too young
Speaker 1: to have a baby. She did make attempts at a
Speaker 1: formal employment, she was also at a disadvantage. Hello. Racism
Speaker 1: limited her education and racism also limited her employment opportunities.
Speaker 1: And even if she like she often leaned into racial
Speaker 1: fluidity or assumed to be white, it still wasn't helping.
Speaker 1: They knew that Linda had a little drop yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's spicy flavor in her. That spicy flavor called a
Speaker 1: black father who so she certainly perpetrated welfare fraud, showing
Speaker 1: up to eight offices describing her hardship she hadn't experienced
Speaker 1: and children she didn't have to get expedited checks. So
Speaker 1: she did have a child, but she was fruitful and
Speaker 1: multiplied that one child into hypothetical marinal church. We are
Speaker 1: the scam was fruitful and begat scams she did. She
Speaker 1: multiplied children ypathetically, so most of the time it worked.
Speaker 1: She used a rotating cast of aliases to get those checks. Honey,
Speaker 1: and she perpetrated other frauds in programs and private systems
Speaker 1: like life insurance, which life insurance itself is a scam. Yes,
Speaker 1: we give you little amounts of money our entire life,
Speaker 1: so that when we die not fun. When we die
Speaker 1: not fun, pretty brutal. Also, don't get any money. It's
Speaker 1: for your family. Yeah. Yeah, well my parents have life
Speaker 1: insurance policies, so I feel good about it. You know,
Speaker 1: you go get a check.
Speaker 2: Yes, hey, listen, they tell me, they tell me this information.
Speaker 1: I'm I supposed to be sad about it. No, it's
Speaker 1: just preparations because that your parents are responsible. I know
Speaker 1: my parents have the life insurance man come over. It's
Speaker 1: a very weird process. Yeah. They came to our house
Speaker 1: and then assessed how healthy my parents were. Yeah, it's weird,
Speaker 1: which was gross. They were in their thirties and then
Speaker 1: this man's in there, like how good you breathe it?
Speaker 1: Do you have young parents? My mom's fifty, so yoh
Speaker 1: she's very young. My mom was just turned to redacted six.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, see that's they had that responsible. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad my mom had me just had one. I
Speaker 1: wish that I had had a baby at twenty one. No,
Speaker 1: you don't, I just because then I could have like
Speaker 1: a little friend to get cocktails with. Okay, I'm twenty eight,
Speaker 1: so I guess not Yeah, no, that's not right now.
Speaker 2: But all the hottest little baby that I go get contacts,
Speaker 2: you're still content. So regardless of age, you just want
Speaker 2: somebody who you can get cocktails with it.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was also my seed.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's sort of something that I think you
Speaker 2: should pin for yourself.
Speaker 1: Don't really don't be Yeah, the whole baby that I
Speaker 1: get cocktails with, it's really like subsicient. Yeah, no, a baby.
Speaker 1: I think that's maybe all right. Yeah, I think it's cool. Okay.
Speaker 1: I like that you feel good about that. I am
Speaker 1: happy for you that that makes you feel cool. But
Speaker 1: I'm ripped. I was ripped off of that experience because
Speaker 1: I'm a millennial who's chosen not to have children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's crazy. It's an ethical it is wild, like,
Speaker 1: kid's bad for the planet. I know, save the planet.
Speaker 1: Don't have a child. I know how much surgery a
Speaker 1: baby is. I'm kidding, guys, have your baby. I love
Speaker 1: by the idea of something looking like me. Oh that's
Speaker 1: what I want. I know. I want that so bad.
Speaker 1: I once stated a guy because we had the same name. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys know, I'm learning a lot aboualue. He was
Speaker 1: not a great guy. But boy, just saying my own
Speaker 1: way the name, it's very fun. He was lazy. I
Speaker 1: was lazy. That was good enough for me for too long.
Speaker 1: The bars on the floor, men, you know that. So
Speaker 1: she may have suffered from mental illness, is what a
Speaker 1: lot of articles have kind of gleaned about Linda. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I think she was a genius. Where are they getting
Speaker 1: You can be both. You can have mentalilists and be
Speaker 1: a genius. That's so true. But I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: white guys are allowed to do that all the time, exactly,
Speaker 1: and then it's cool they make a movie about it.
Speaker 2: There was a brilliant, brilliant, beautiful mind, right, that's all
Speaker 2: that movie's about.
Speaker 1: And goodwill hunting. Yeah. So at our first trial, well yeah,
Speaker 1: At her first trial over welfare fraud, her attorney asserted
Speaker 1: that she was incapable of knowing whether or not she
Speaker 1: was telling the truth and had her evaluated by a psychiatrist.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight. Three of her lawyers said the same,
Speaker 1: and two psychiatrists found that she was quote unquote psychotic
Speaker 1: whoa I don't know about that. A series of experts
Speaker 1: examined her over the next years and couldn't make firm
Speaker 1: conclusions about her mental health. Her behavior certainly seemed to
Speaker 1: have followed clear and disturbing patterns. Every chance she got,
Speaker 1: she used fake names to sign up for public benefits,
Speaker 1: even when it led authorities right back to her. She
Speaker 1: did not seem capable of telling the truth, even in
Speaker 1: small matters like her own name. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this makes you psychotic. She was just a smart black woman.
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? She was born in nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty six, bach, I'm a lot of everybody every day.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I'm black, born in the fast.
Speaker 1: All I do is lie? Why would I tell the
Speaker 1: truth to white people? What good would that do me?
Speaker 1: This is this is a time where white people are
Speaker 1: overly hanging people. This is the time where white people
Speaker 1: are openly killing Well, why would you ever tell somebody
Speaker 1: white the truth in nineteen forty Damn, damn, that's real.
Speaker 1: That seems like a scam in itself.
Speaker 2: That's interesting where I'm like, Also, the way that this
Speaker 2: is phrase is like, were people trying to help her
Speaker 2: or were they trying to like indict her, because if
Speaker 2: they were trying to like indict her, yeah, obviously she's
Speaker 2: gonna be like, yeah, I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay. I left out that Linda Taylor is a bad bitch.
Speaker 1: She's attractive, pull up a photo of her, Brodie. She's bad.
Speaker 1: She's a little haughty, okay. And she's also like the
Speaker 1: beginning of that racially ambutied, like.
Speaker 2: She's sort of doing like the like uh you know,
Speaker 2: like those all those British girls who are light skin
Speaker 2: in this city and they put on.
Speaker 1: The door or oh the gras, yeah, I'm talking about here.
Speaker 1: So she's like doing She was a little jars school. Yes, No,
Speaker 1: she was sexy, honey. And also they wasn't allowing people
Speaker 1: to make these kinds of babies at the time, so
Speaker 1: she was rare, you know, you know many Linda's walking
Speaker 1: around on these streets, honey. And then also she was
Speaker 1: a mad bitch, and she dressed good. She had style.
Speaker 1: She's doing sort of like a female like pimpsit. Oh,
Speaker 1: she was a bad, but she could never kill I
Speaker 1: really like that. Oh I got that picture of her
Speaker 1: and her lawyer is really what I feel like. You
Speaker 1: and I look like, oh, yeah, that is us, that's us.
Speaker 1: That's really great. I would be her lawyer. So I
Speaker 1: think that also plays. It's a part of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: people are trying to help her.
Speaker 2: It's so interesting that I mean, listen to me. She
Speaker 2: looks at Aalian, you know what I mean. She looks
Speaker 2: like spicy what she looks like. She does look kind
Speaker 2: of like dua lipa. Like she's from Kosovo. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: Drina Ura Kosovo. They're all from Kosovo. But like, it's
Speaker 2: interesting that she passes, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 2: now when she's involved scatter. But if she's involved in
Speaker 2: the scam, no, I think it's like that thing where
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, she's black, like you like, like
Speaker 2: they pushed her into the box of like blackness because
Speaker 2: they were like, no, we don't.
Speaker 1: Which is deeply unfair because if you're half white, you're
Speaker 1: half white, you're half of both. But in this country,
Speaker 1: you're never half white. Yeah, except for Barack Obama, who
Speaker 1: was the first person who was half white I've ever
Speaker 1: heard in my life. She's literally a pass. Well, Barack
Speaker 1: Obama became president, white people came out and said he's
Speaker 1: half white, and I was like, I've never heard that
Speaker 1: phrase before ever, because they had no need for the phrase.
Speaker 1: No one wanted he said, Barack's aid Obama a white.
Speaker 1: They said, he's partly ours. Please Negroes pipe down, all right,
Speaker 1: just hush now a little. It's not your first black president,
Speaker 1: he's your first half white president. And I truly love that.
Speaker 1: So it was nineteen seventy six. Now we've moved up
Speaker 1: in time. She started scamming in the nineteen forties. In
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, Ronald Reagan was president or he was
Speaker 1: running for president and having trouble gaining traction as a
Speaker 1: new candidate. Shook hands and diners. He did gymnasiums, town halls.
Speaker 1: He kissed on all the babies, and he hit upon
Speaker 1: a crowd pleaser, like a riff that got attention by
Speaker 1: playing into fears, which is what everyone in politics loves
Speaker 1: to do, is make you scared and make you racist.
Speaker 1: It works, It works too good. Like they're not going
Speaker 1: to give you health care, but they will make you
Speaker 1: hate Mexicans. What and is that curing your cough? It
Speaker 1: tracks to me, It tracks to me why I have
Speaker 1: a hit problem. But hating Mexicans has really improved.
Speaker 2: It I'm really serious, like debt after going to school.
Speaker 1: But ever since that sort of like a Muslim band, thinks,
Speaker 1: have been really looking up for you, really looking up
Speaker 1: for my debt. Really, it's been paying itself. No, it's
Speaker 1: it's the same amount of debt. Oh girl, Yeah, death
Speaker 1: didn't change. No, it feels like it's lighter.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, it's actually it's actually more interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's how racism works, guys. It's a scam. Let
Speaker 1: it go. So call it a like nineteen seventies version
Speaker 1: of Build that Wall. This is what Ronald Reagan was
Speaker 1: like going around with. So in Chicago, they found a
Speaker 1: woman who holds the record. Reagan said she used eighty names,
Speaker 1: thirty addresses, fifteen telephone numbers to collect food stamps, social Security,
Speaker 1: veteran benefits for non existent diseased veteran husbands, deceased excuse
Speaker 1: me for non existent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare.
Speaker 1: Her tax free cash income alone has been running one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. This is an
Speaker 1: audio recording from that time, and you can hear the
Speaker 1: audience gas. So Ronald Reagan ran on the back of
Speaker 1: a black woman ran on the black of a back woman,
Speaker 1: the black of a black woman, and also the back
Speaker 1: of a black woman. With his new political trope, which
Speaker 1: was coined welfare Queen, Ronald Reagan did this like, ron Meagan,
Speaker 1: you and your trap queen wife brought crack to the community,
Speaker 1: like truly, truly brought crack to the communities. And also
Speaker 1: you labeled us as welfare queen. And who is Republican's
Speaker 1: most favorite president to date, Ronald fucking Reagan. He was
Speaker 1: an actor. He's literally Donald Trump, but just like talked better. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: arguably equal or worse. It's it's it's interesting, And I
Speaker 1: just want to say again the majority of people on
Speaker 1: welfare are white white. It's yes, numbers, Okay, it's just
Speaker 1: numbers of facts. But he used this to create an
Speaker 1: image of black women that has stuck in people's minds
Speaker 1: to this day. A black woman eating chicken in the
Speaker 1: in the low income house and nine the keys. It's
Speaker 1: the It reminds me kind of of like the whole
Speaker 1: thing was voter fraud.
Speaker 2: You remember there was that scare and they were like
Speaker 2: people are going around voting sucks.
Speaker 1: No one's trying to scam an election. Not not people
Speaker 1: of color anyone.
Speaker 2: But it's that same thing where it's like one person
Speaker 2: did this thing, but you're using it as like a
Speaker 2: way to propagate fear and anger towards a whole community
Speaker 2: that isn't deserving, and that.
Speaker 1: Only happens to brown people because white guys get to
Speaker 1: be individuals and shoot up as many movie theaters and
Speaker 1: churches as they want. And we're just like, that's just
Speaker 1: one guy. Well that's that is just one guy. If
Speaker 1: there's a lone wolf, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: All those all those guys are just lone wolf separately
Speaker 2: with the same ideology that have been radicalized from the
Speaker 2: same place. No, they're alone, and also guns have personalities, so.
Speaker 1: You have to be nice to them, and they have rights.
Speaker 1: I feel like they should have. All of that is hilarious.
Speaker 1: And I feel like they have called it a lone
Speaker 1: wolf because wolves travel in packs, and now there's been
Speaker 1: so many lone wolves that they're a pack, right, They're
Speaker 1: a pack? Now? Yeah, Well, what's a lone animal that
Speaker 1: would have worked better for? Like killing Randa? A student
Speaker 1: of fish? Maybe your some thing? I feel like a
Speaker 1: student of fish. There's definitely just one guy by hisself.
Speaker 1: I've talked about this on many podcasts, but I think
Speaker 1: if you own an aquarium, you might be a murderer.
Speaker 1: It tracks. Here's why. It's a pet that's in a
Speaker 1: box and you put a little food on top every day,
Speaker 1: like here you go, bitch, here's your food, and then
Speaker 1: you watch you swim around. Just get hold on it.
Speaker 1: And they can't pet, You can't talk to you. I
Speaker 1: can't tell you if it's sick. It's just like I've
Speaker 1: got your little box, bitch, where you're gonna go. It's
Speaker 1: true some fish look nice. They do look nice, But
Speaker 1: why you gotta hold something and look at it? What
Speaker 1: about you makes you want to have a big job?
Speaker 1: Cats are I think people. Cats are scary and yes
Speaker 1: they'll eat you when you die, but they're your friend.
Speaker 1: But fish can't do shit they like look nice. Am
Speaker 1: I a murderer? I think you might be a murderer.
Speaker 1: I have only murdered two people. Next, that doesn't make
Speaker 1: me a murder. Murderer could be your new hobby. Okay, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna encourage that. This is a true con podcast.
Speaker 1: We do not encourage crime than you, but just know,
Speaker 1: you know you might have the talent inside of you. No,
Speaker 1: I don't, and immediately go down. I would go down.
Speaker 1: So Linda Taylor quickly became a political tool, wielded for
Speaker 1: purposes far bond beyond her misdeed. It's so annoying. I'm annoyed.
Speaker 2: I'm also thinking of like the eighties, like twenty one
Speaker 2: year old like Coke bro who like just graduated from
Speaker 2: GW and he's like writing speeches for Ronald Reagan and
Speaker 2: he's like, you gotta listen, mister Reagan, like this, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you hitch all the way to the White House.
Speaker 1: Reagan's like, what do you mean black? She looks Italian,
Speaker 1: He's He's like, I love her so not from Kosovo. No,
Speaker 1: she's black in reality. So they were making up the
Speaker 1: amount of money that she had stolen. They had kind
Speaker 1: of inflated it for political purposes. In reality, a grand
Speaker 1: jury indicted her for receiving payments adding up to a
Speaker 1: grand total of seven thousand, six hundred eight dollars in
Speaker 1: two so, which later increased to eight thousand, six hundred
Speaker 1: I'm sorry eighty eight hundred and sixty five dollars and
Speaker 1: sixty seven cents. So just To be clear, Ronald Reagan
Speaker 1: said that she was raking in one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year and she had over eight grand.
Speaker 2: I'm also just like, that's not a queen, Like that's
Speaker 2: like a blacksmith. Like that's like the town cobbler. Like, right,
Speaker 2: she could be a gesture at she she's a barmaid.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know that's not like the queen.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. That's crazy. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: it was that little.
Speaker 2: Actually it's a lot, and it's still a scam.
Speaker 1: But also I'm like, I thought it was more money, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And here's the fucked up thing about the system is
Speaker 1: it took Cook County fifty thousand dollars to convict her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to mention what it costs to imprison her, nor
Speaker 1: the resources suspended to build a case against her. It
Speaker 1: costs more money to put this black woman in jail
Speaker 1: than she Still, Yeah, it's not shocking because it's how
Speaker 1: the prison industrial complex works. This is a very political episode. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we're black and we're suffering. Welcome, Welcome, join us. There
Speaker 1: was like a hashtag not too long ago on Twitter
Speaker 1: that was like rest in piece of America. I'm like, bitch,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? This country's constitution was written
Speaker 1: by a bunch nasty old rapists and slaves owners. I
Speaker 1: always it's like, whenever anybody's like, this isn't the America,
Speaker 1: I know, what did you know? It's like crazy. I
Speaker 1: was back in New York the other day and I
Speaker 1: was listening to this this couple. They were having a fight.
Speaker 2: It was an old white man and his younger white girlfriend,
Speaker 2: and she was like upset with him because they'd gone
Speaker 2: to like some political argument. I was trying to piece
Speaker 2: it together. You can only do so much when you're
Speaker 2: nosy and shopping.
Speaker 1: I love your hustling, my favorite hustle. Oh, I love
Speaker 1: your hustle. Work so hard to listen to other people's
Speaker 1: I really did, I really really. My mom taught me.
Speaker 1: I was like pretending to read. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I was like flipping the pages, and I actually really
Speaker 2: liked that. I had to try to remember my original page.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: As I'm yeah, but so it's all about method. I'm
Speaker 2: actually fairly method.
Speaker 1: H But I was.
Speaker 2: Listening to them arguing, and he basically well a big
Speaker 2: part of their argument. They were both upset about Greta
Speaker 2: Tunburg because she was like, I like Gretitunburg and he
Speaker 2: was like, she's young. So that was part of their argument,
Speaker 2: but it was basically about being political, and he was like,
Speaker 2: you're just you're radical, you know, And he was like.
Speaker 1: What happened to civility? Back in my day? Two people
Speaker 1: could come from opposite sides of the table and meet
Speaker 1: in the middle. And I back in my day we
Speaker 1: strung ningers up on trees together. We did it gather
Speaker 1: and we were organized, we had juice.
Speaker 2: And I also was like, if I want this conversation
Speaker 2: to happen as organically as possible, you know, like I
Speaker 2: want I want them to be able to reach some
Speaker 2: sort of agreement. But I also was like trying to
Speaker 2: look at her and be.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, hey me over here, me, do you just
Speaker 1: want to like you can maybe you could win this
Speaker 1: argument if.
Speaker 2: You were just like but other people. But I think
Speaker 2: she was also rich because she had at a point
Speaker 2: they like stopped talking and to like, you know, give
Speaker 2: themselves like a little argument break. And she was like
Speaker 2: looking at her business on Instagram. She made furniture, I think,
Speaker 2: or re upholstered previously made furniture, and she only had
Speaker 2: two sales for the whole last month. And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: how can you afford a life if that's your business.
Speaker 2: So I think she was also generationally wealthy.
Speaker 1: Probably, you know, that's sweet, sweet generational wealthy.
Speaker 2: Y know, I really fucked up when my parents didn't
Speaker 2: have generational wealth.
Speaker 1: I can't believe my parents didn't have generational wealth. My
Speaker 1: parents were the first people, I think to go to college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they made money, so I got I did get
Speaker 1: off on that scamp. But you know, we could have
Speaker 1: been nasty rich. Yeah. I want to be rich where
Speaker 1: like there's definitely been murders. I want to be so
Speaker 1: rich that you got a murder for your fortune. Rich
Speaker 1: where like where like there's like we own bodies of
Speaker 1: war water. Oh yes, I would love to own the Pacific.
Speaker 1: You have like a little lake it's too cold. I
Speaker 1: would warm it up. I would warm up the Pacific actively.
Speaker 2: And this is why black people actually can't have generational
Speaker 2: That's actually why we don't deserve it, because we're trying.
Speaker 1: To flex some war much to Pacific. You spend all
Speaker 1: your money on warming up the Pacific.
Speaker 2: Like he bought a polar ice cap and you made
Speaker 2: it hot because you thought that would be cool it.
Speaker 1: See what happened her story and the eventual case. Wow,
Speaker 1: what a tangent. I know, y'all go be my ass
Speaker 1: on this episode. Oh well, can't find me. It's my fault.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I on her story.
Speaker 1: And and it's Black History months, so you get.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly if you're mad at black innovation, this is
Speaker 2: actually afrofuturism. And this is actually sort of like just
Speaker 2: like black dot eyes.
Speaker 1: I made that, and tell your white friends, tell your
Speaker 1: white friends about black dot not even close to data.
Speaker 1: It'sm I just was looking for a word. So her
Speaker 1: story and this is Linda Taylor, right, that's who we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Her story and the eventual case against her.
Speaker 1: Fuel to crackdown and the Illinois legislator on supposed welfare fraud, remember,
Speaker 1: because she's fake stealing one hundred thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: Thanks Reagan, it's crazy, leading to an eighty eight percent
Speaker 1: bump in the budget for the Designated Committee and partnership
Speaker 1: with guess who, the Chicago motherfucking police. So now the
Speaker 1: police getting to pay raise so they can go hunt
Speaker 1: black and brown people for the welfare fraud that they're
Speaker 1: not doing well.
Speaker 2: Also just the negligence and like actual like public service
Speaker 2: that that is.
Speaker 1: Doing, you know what I mean, Like it's horrible. So
Speaker 1: three quarters of welfare fraud cases were referred to law
Speaker 1: enforcement by nineteen seventy nine up to and this is
Speaker 1: like up twenty eight percent from nineteen seventy so just
Speaker 1: in nine years because of Reagan. Now we're just like
Speaker 1: harassing the shit out of people. The department began systematically
Speaker 1: auditing the af DC and other programs. Lawmakers even set
Speaker 1: up anonymous hotlines to receive tips about potential cheats. So
Speaker 1: then I made a one eight hundred Karen number so
Speaker 1: that Karen could call when the negroes started to look
Speaker 1: a little too rich.
Speaker 2: I would absolutely call that hotline for like people.
Speaker 1: I was like, mad, you know you would. Oh my god, Hello,
Speaker 1: I want to h of care. Yes, I have a neighbor.
Speaker 1: Her name is Chandra. Yes, she's a black h if
Speaker 1: you need to know that for just since its purposes,
Speaker 1: I think she might be doing welfare for us. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Hi, this is Karen. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing Schandra actually doesn't have she's not a welfare no,
Speaker 1: but she's black. Wait a minute, y, since you called,
Speaker 1: I think we'll just arrest her anyway, Thank you so much, gorgeous,
Speaker 1: I will This is what's happening now. This is terrible. So,
Speaker 1: and the biggest problem with this program was not that
Speaker 1: people were cheating system or whatever tailor style schemes they
Speaker 1: were saying, but that the system was cheating them them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they use this. They The government was like, Linda is
Speaker 1: onto something and now we want ours. Yeah, government is
Speaker 1: a scam. Yes, So they're the best.
Speaker 2: Arguably the biggest one. We're living in a crumbling democracy.
Speaker 1: About tax already crumbled. The government don't tell you how
Speaker 1: much money you owe, but then if you don't pay them,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, hey, actually this how much money you owe,
Speaker 1: but we can't tell you until you don't pay us.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta go to jail. It makes no sense
Speaker 1: how we pay taxes and then what does the money go?
Speaker 1: Do you actually know exactly where your tax dollar went?
Speaker 1: Do you know what pothole your coins field? No, you don't,
Speaker 1: and they don't have to tell you. Yeah. So government
Speaker 1: was like Linda, yeah, like what you're doing? And we
Speaker 1: want to add to it. None of it makes sense.
Speaker 1: The government. I want to I think I have to
Speaker 1: work in government at some point, just because no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, don't look so tickle. I need to be
Speaker 1: a part of that sleep sweet scam Oh god, oh
Speaker 1: I love it. From sea to shine and sea Wow.
Speaker 2: That is hills and plains and valleys, et cetera, purple
Speaker 2: mountain magisty yes for robber ree, I'm into it. So
Speaker 2: a federal report that a federal report found that just
Speaker 2: one percent of the annual budget of the Department of Health, Education,
Speaker 2: and Welfare was lost to unw unlawful or wilful misrepresentation.
Speaker 2: So basically one percent of money that was lost was
Speaker 2: lost to fraud. But mind you, they've started policing people
Speaker 2: twenty eight percent higher than they were before.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the truth is Linda Taylor actually was a
Speaker 1: scam artist who cheated the system quite prolifically, but not
Speaker 1: the way that society wanted her. She had gone by
Speaker 1: at least eight different names by the time she was
Speaker 1: twenty two. She was apparently a kidnapper. Ooh, Linda, yess
Speaker 1: I mean, if a black woman takes you, is it kidnapping.
Speaker 1: Is it a wonderful experience? Probably kidnapping. Still, you're right,
Speaker 1: doesn't like it. Who's she kidnapped? You know, I need
Speaker 1: to figure that out, let's see. So it says books,
Speaker 1: I think it's like a legend. So ah, yes, ah, yes,
Speaker 1: the old legend of her maybe kidnapping someone. That's a
Speaker 1: that's lore. I truly don't know. And books written about
Speaker 1: her life even suggests that she committed murder, which, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think people are just pontificating on
Speaker 1: a woman who is just brilliant and a good scammer,
Speaker 1: but we don't know. So he presents Linda Taylor not
Speaker 1: as a parable for anything grand, but as a singular
Speaker 1: American scoundrel who represented nothing but herself, which I wish
Speaker 1: more black people could just represent themselves.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, right, is like when that happens,
Speaker 2: then it's it's like a big crime. Like it's like
Speaker 2: a big it's this big, disgusting horror like.
Speaker 1: And I say he because I'm talking about Josh Levin.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, guys, Josh Levin wrote a book about Linda Taylor.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing I should have said. So
Speaker 1: he presents Lynda Taylor not as a parable for anything grand,
Speaker 1: but as a singular American scoundrel who represents nothing but herself,
Speaker 1: which yeah, I would love to represent just myself.
Speaker 2: That's the part of like American law is like you're
Speaker 2: supposed to be able to be anyone you want to be,
Speaker 2: and if you come across things by like not so
Speaker 2: great circumstances, like there's still like reward and like there's
Speaker 2: something like cool and American about it. But if you're
Speaker 2: like a black person who does that, you go to prison.
Speaker 1: Exactly, yes, and then white people steal your story and
Speaker 1: make a movie about it, but for sure probably erase
Speaker 1: you out of it. And it's crazy too because when
Speaker 1: black people do good things, the good things don't represent
Speaker 1: us as much as the bad things do. So it's
Speaker 1: not even like, Okay, look at Michelle Obama, shouldn't black
Speaker 1: women be better revered? No, we still hate you, hosts,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna use Cardi B as your reference, like
Speaker 1: why they're famous. They're both very famous, and Cardi B
Speaker 1: has done a lot of good stuff, but a lot
Speaker 1: of it. You might work in government one day. I
Speaker 1: would love if Cardi B works in government like I
Speaker 1: want it. I want to the White House, I want
Speaker 1: that on a sign. I want to be out in
Speaker 1: the street. I don't want that. I never do, like
Speaker 1: a school board or something. Something has gone from government
Speaker 1: now that Donald Trump has completely fucked over the scam
Speaker 1: of like politicians have to be eloquent. Anybody can get
Speaker 1: they asked clapping in the White House, and we're not
Speaker 1: gonna give a fuck. There's what when you hire a rapist, racist,
Speaker 1: I'm taking it a a thief and you let him
Speaker 1: be the president. And after that, where is the bar?
Speaker 1: There's no more bar? No, I agree, I don't know
Speaker 1: need to go back to suits. We don't need to
Speaker 1: go back to eloquence. We don't need to go back
Speaker 1: to you not being high on adderall every day. Well,
Speaker 1: I see good things in this argument.
Speaker 2: I also would like a president who could read what why?
Speaker 1: Just would be nice? I don't know, just would be nice?
Speaker 1: You can read why a president need to read oh
Speaker 1: my God by president illiterate? Wow?
Speaker 2: Is this like a great reminder of one of my
Speaker 2: favorite things about like comedy, which is like you just
Speaker 2: have to be able to make a good argument and
Speaker 2: there doesn't have to be any there can be holes.
Speaker 1: But as long as it's concrete. Yes. Well, Josh Levin, yes,
Speaker 1: wrote this book, and he also in this book recalls
Speaker 1: hints of buying and selling children on the black market.
Speaker 1: We hold on.
Speaker 2: You can't leave this till almost the end. That's what
Speaker 2: Josh said, hints off hints. So does would have hints
Speaker 2: of buying and selling children on the black market?
Speaker 1: That feels like the whole like that's the answer. No,
Speaker 1: that's not a clue. That's the result. You bought and
Speaker 1: sold children on the black market. Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: What are the hints? Are the hints like little clothes
Speaker 1: that was left behind closed for little baby shoes for sale,
Speaker 1: So many baby shoes since she was always selling them
Speaker 1: on the corner. Also baby also with children. I okay,
Speaker 1: thinking about that, she's thinking about that. There's more weird stuff.
Speaker 1: She befriended a sick woman named Patricia Parks, who then
Speaker 1: died under suspicious circumstances. Can we pull up Patricia? I
Speaker 1: think we got her on a tab. So Patricia Parks
Speaker 1: died in June of nineteen seventy five after our barbituate
Speaker 1: overdose that was happening a lot at that time. That's
Speaker 1: like how Jimmy Hendricks died. But Taylor was for a
Speaker 1: while a suspect in Petitio's death but ultimately was never charged.
Speaker 1: All they said was, that's another black woman dead. Wow.
Speaker 1: Barbituates are kind of glamorous too, are they aren't they?
Speaker 1: I think you'd be throwing up when you died.
Speaker 2: That's not cool, but like, that's not It makes me
Speaker 2: think of think of Jimmy Hendry.
Speaker 1: It makes me think of Valley of the Dolls. You've
Speaker 1: seen that. This is an old movie and basically it's
Speaker 1: about people going to Hollywood and then getting addicted to pills.
Speaker 1: And there's this scene where she goes, give me my dolls.
Speaker 1: I just looked like dolls, Give me my dolls. Glamorous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that glamorous for me. All I needed was that
Speaker 1: spectacular performance. So maybe she murdered her friend, maybe she didn't.
Speaker 1: Maybe she stole some kids, maybe she didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well, who among us? Who among us
Speaker 2: hasn't been to the black market.
Speaker 1: Market? It's Black History Month, and I'm not judging the
Speaker 1: black car. The black market is a part of Black
Speaker 1: History Months. It's not, but we will say it will
Speaker 1: for these intensive purposes, so one of her husbands because
Speaker 1: she had a few hunting Sherman Ray was shot by
Speaker 1: one of her cronies, and his family accused she has
Speaker 1: I don't understand Linda's life, especially given that Okay, so
Speaker 1: especially given that he had taken out two life insurance
Speaker 1: plans shortly before his death and Taylor was the beneficiary
Speaker 1: of both. Her husband Sherman Ray was shot by her cronies,
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying, and that she he had taken
Speaker 1: out two life insurance policies like right before his death.
Speaker 1: I think there's things.
Speaker 2: I there's things missing from her life for me.
Speaker 1: I don't like the way that this is arranged either,
Speaker 1: no shade, but no, no, it's just like, these are
Speaker 1: the things I wanted to know in the beginning. Well
Speaker 1: because okay, because I kind of was like defending her.
Speaker 1: That's okay, you can still defend her. Maybe she murdered
Speaker 1: her husband, maybe she didn't. It's hard with.
Speaker 2: The black market stuff and now knowing that she has cronies,
Speaker 2: it's hard to be like she's a scammer, Like she's
Speaker 2: like a criminal.
Speaker 1: She's a career criminal. Look, that's what that was I thinking.
Speaker 2: She's sort of like was like going around trying to
Speaker 2: have day jobs and it was hard.
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's a criminal. Okay, iow is getting off
Speaker 1: the scam train. Guys. I see her getting off the
Speaker 1: train right now with her hobo bag. I get back
Speaker 1: on the trap.
Speaker 2: I just my little stick, my little stick in my
Speaker 2: Bandita are they're wavering?
Speaker 1: They're weary on my shoulders. I was fully buckled into this.
Speaker 2: My tiny little scampy little dog is barking. He wants
Speaker 2: to get off.
Speaker 1: No, you want to stay off. This is where, this
Speaker 1: is where life is for your dog man. Oh no,
Speaker 1: oh no, I've become a crony. You have, and you've
Speaker 1: become microny. We'll have fun after this. I may or
Speaker 1: may not have someone with life insurance policies that I
Speaker 1: need you to kill. Oh my god, it's my mother.
Speaker 1: So at various points, Taylor comes across mentally ill, pathological
Speaker 1: in her lies, and perhaps unable to distinguish what's real
Speaker 1: from what's fake. At other times, Josh Levin, who is
Speaker 1: describing her in this book called The Queen, suggests that
Speaker 1: she seemed to know precisely which lever to pull, which
Speaker 1: I think is more accurate, like when you're getting a
Speaker 1: psyche v out and like you need to She's like,
Speaker 1: when you go to jury duty and you don't want
Speaker 1: to do jury duty, which black people, you have to
Speaker 1: go to jury duty and you have to do it
Speaker 1: because of racism. Sorry, I have to do it too.
Speaker 1: But when you go to dury doing and you want
Speaker 1: to get out of it, you say the wrong thing
Speaker 1: so that they kick you out. You're like, oh, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about cops? You'd be like I hate
Speaker 1: them or I would have six with them all, Like
Speaker 1: you have to say something radical, insane so they'll kick
Speaker 1: you off the jury. I think that when you go
Speaker 1: get a psyche vout and you know that if you
Speaker 1: have a bad ev out, it's gonna help you. You
Speaker 1: got to go in there and give them your best,
Speaker 1: you know, halle Berry, Wow, just give them your best.
Speaker 1: And in one of those movies where she loses her child, she's.
Speaker 2: Always like, Octavia Spencer and Law do that. That's a
Speaker 2: three day performance.
Speaker 1: Oh but see that takes too long. I feel like
Speaker 1: the good thing about Octavia Spencer in Law is like
Speaker 1: you don't know she's crazy for a little while, Like, well,
Speaker 1: then just do that just give to them. Skip to
Speaker 1: the just skip to the end of my folks.
Speaker 2: If I can leave you with one thing, one recommendation,
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you.
Speaker 1: You gotta see ma It's fantastic. I have a friend
Speaker 1: in it who shows his butt. All right, he's actually
Speaker 1: on the show at some point. The white guy. Yes, ooh,
Speaker 1: here ourch a little bit younger, Okay, that's tracks. The
Speaker 1: same is Shohny Pallo. He's very cool. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot because on the show, you will hear that
Speaker 1: episode at some point.
Speaker 2: So watch mom, so support the working actors in.
Speaker 1: Mo got to So she's listed as white in a
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty census. I'm telling you she looks like she's
Speaker 1: from Kosovo. She looks like she don't as white and
Speaker 1: Mexican on a nineteen forty five arrest report, and she's
Speaker 1: listed as Hawaiian nineteen forty six resupport. So basically relate
Speaker 1: to that. She's like the Rock. Yes, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: like every.
Speaker 2: Race that the Rock is listed Linda Taylor. Linda is
Speaker 2: the rock tailor.
Speaker 1: Linda the Rock Tailor.
Speaker 2: That's the earlier when said she's a little haughty hock girl,
Speaker 2: I was thinking Linda B.
Speaker 1: Taylor. I feel I still think this Linda Taylor's pretty hot.
Speaker 1: So no matter her background, Taylor did a monstrous things
Speaker 1: while she was alive. Linda Taylor was a victim of
Speaker 1: many things, including racism, family cruelty, and possibly mental illness.
Speaker 1: She then went on to victimize a long list of
Speaker 1: people herself, and those people are again maybe Sherman Ray
Speaker 1: who died, maybe she murdered him. Children, various children who
Speaker 1: we don't know if she may or may not have sold.
Speaker 1: These are all hypotheticals.
Speaker 2: Would also like to be the type of person who
Speaker 2: somebody's like, we don't know if she sold a child.
Speaker 1: Technically, I don't know if you've sold a child. You
Speaker 1: know that I haven't sold a child. I don't know
Speaker 1: that for sure. You know that I haven't been with
Speaker 1: your life. See not on purpose, doubt, you're creating doubt.
Speaker 1: So Linda Taylor, maybe that wasn't even her real name,
Speaker 1: but that's the name that stuck the longest. Died in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two in a care facility near Chicago. Wow, Linda,
Speaker 1: is this kind of like? This is a this is
Speaker 1: a bit of a tricky one. A lot of them
Speaker 1: are She's got a checkered past. Yeah, because I will
Speaker 1: say I don't encourage murder. This is a podcast that
Speaker 1: we fully don't focus on murder or you know, ian
Speaker 1: focus on fun crime, true con. Yeah, and Linda may
Speaker 1: Or may not have been a murderer, but since we
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm gonna lean with now well innocent until
Speaker 1: proven guilt. Right. But but when there's smoke, there's fire,
Speaker 1: and I feel like if people are like, maybe you murdered.
Speaker 2: And beyond smoke, it's like full fog at like a
Speaker 2: Diplow concert.
Speaker 1: This is like dangerous levels. I don't know it's it's hazardous.
Speaker 1: I believe a queen. Okay, Okay, I love that you
Speaker 1: have to grapple with this hard. We can grapple during
Speaker 1: the break. We'll be right back with more scam Goddess
Speaker 1: rab right, Guys, stretching, I was stretching in the studio.
Speaker 1: She's we've stressed her out. I'm still I'm glad she
Speaker 1: came back after the break because she was trying to
Speaker 1: jump off the scam train. Guys, so this is our
Speaker 1: last second.
Speaker 2: The little dog was like holding on to my cash pants.
Speaker 2: I was like trying to get off the train. And
Speaker 2: he was like tugging me.
Speaker 1: So this is a scammer of the week, and why
Speaker 1: not highlight another black queen we all probably know by
Speaker 1: now and love who used racism to her advantage, just
Speaker 1: like Linda Taylor, but maybe didn't murder anyone and maybe
Speaker 1: didn't sell any children on the black mart It's it's
Speaker 1: the maybe. So over the past few months, the conservative
Speaker 1: sections of social media have become fixated on a walk
Speaker 1: away campaign. This was month sigo, this isn't nineteen that
Speaker 1: was urging democrats minorities to take their blinders off and
Speaker 1: join the Republican Party. It was called hashtag walk away
Speaker 1: God from who you are and everything you stand for
Speaker 1: to support racism that hurts you. That's the longer hashtag,
Speaker 1: but the short hashtag was walk away. So this girl tweeted,
Speaker 1: and this was in twenty nineteen months ago. They so
Speaker 1: the Republican Party seemed to have added a black college
Speaker 1: student named Koran to the ranks. And the girl, she tweeted,
Speaker 1: I will not hide any longer. The left has made
Speaker 1: us feel as if us black Republicans should hide. But
Speaker 1: not in it all. Let me put on my Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King boys. But not at it all backs for Trump.
Speaker 1: You walk away, Maga. You're singing make amracle great again
Speaker 1: to the mountain top. That's good. So the tweet went viral.
Speaker 1: King Oh wow, that's pretty good. That's all King said.
Speaker 1: Every day. Wow. So he was like Martin that flaps
Speaker 1: weirdly got into like a have Lois. I was like,
Speaker 1: I have a dream and she was like, wine, wow,
Speaker 1: I want to go to jail. I would like to
Speaker 1: go to jail please. So the tweet went viral. She
Speaker 1: got a momentary blast of internet fame, but things took
Speaker 1: a turn when Kuran tweeted a text conversation between her
Speaker 1: and her mom. She claimed that her parents disowned her,
Speaker 1: kicked her out of her house, and refused to pay
Speaker 1: her college tuition. To make ends meet, Koran set up
Speaker 1: a go fund me my favorite scam platform and asked
Speaker 1: for financial support from her new found Republican fan base.
Speaker 1: If you could find it in your hearts, racist white
Speaker 1: people to help this young black Republican pay for school
Speaker 1: organ it would be appreciated, she tweeted. Less than three
Speaker 1: hours after claiming to be disowned by her family, Karan
Speaker 1: revealed the text messages and the MAGA hat were a
Speaker 1: ruse to scam desperate, insecure Republicans, so our rumor started
Speaker 1: circulated that she had raised more than hundred fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars over the phone. Karan admitted that she didn't raise
Speaker 1: much of anything, and that she'd refunded what she had received.
Speaker 1: That's between me and the irs, she said, coyly. When
Speaker 1: asked how much she's gotten a queen, she said, I
Speaker 1: just decided to refund everyone and give them their money back.
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe like two hundred dollars at
Speaker 1: that point. Email screenshots she had backed up this claim. Yes,
Speaker 1: go Fundme refunded at least ninety dollars one fifty donation
Speaker 1: and one for twenty That don't add up to ninety
Speaker 1: dollars seventy dollars. What's going on? I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: being scammed out of research today, So, she says, I
Speaker 1: just honestly didn't want to take their money. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: can pay for school, but I don't. I want Republican
Speaker 1: money to pay for it. You give me, that's the
Speaker 1: best kind of money to pay for it. I want
Speaker 1: Republican money to pay for everything. I want Republican money
Speaker 1: to pay for my wax, your wax, Yeah, my wax
Speaker 1: in my vagina. I would love for that to be
Speaker 1: funded by Republican money.
Speaker 2: This is I think if a Republican was listening to
Speaker 2: this podcast, they'd be like, this is why I don't
Speaker 2: believe in in any sort of socialist like take on
Speaker 2: the economy.
Speaker 1: I'm getting government refunds to go to European Wax Center. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy though.
Speaker 2: It's like if you're a Republican, you believe that like
Speaker 2: money should go to war and like big guns, but.
Speaker 1: You don't believe it. Your Republican used to stand for
Speaker 1: to you getting your vagina wax.
Speaker 2: Think about it, What is the greatest weapon of mass
Speaker 2: destruction the vagina?
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it didn't used to be that way,
Speaker 1: Like Republicans like, yeah, there's always been like a taste
Speaker 1: of racism in the soup, you know, for flavor, but
Speaker 1: they don't don't have anything else really like openly this racist.
Speaker 1: Like you could be a Republican and just actually just
Speaker 1: be really selfish about giving your money to people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of nice, very wonderful white people who
Speaker 1: just don't want to help the polar Yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: now their party stands for racism. They're like, that's not
Speaker 1: what we were doing. We just didn't want them to
Speaker 1: have things. Yeah, yeah, we want to kill them. Well
Speaker 1: that's slow, not having resource exactly. That's the that's that's
Speaker 1: the civil way to do it. Yes, So she says
Speaker 1: her only regret is that she wished a better photo
Speaker 1: of her gone viral. Yea cool. But yeah, she scammed these,
Speaker 1: She says, she gave the money back. I would have
Speaker 1: loved this scam more if she kept all the money,
Speaker 1: because she would have. They were like, they would have
Speaker 1: gone bananas. Why. That's the thing about GoFundMe that I
Speaker 1: don't understand is like people be like, oh, well, you're
Speaker 1: not really sick. You have to give all the money back?
Speaker 1: Why gofund me is a platform for scammers and liars.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with making up a fake go fundme
Speaker 1: and my can okay, cause think about it, How did
Speaker 1: life change if my kid didn't really break his leg?
Speaker 1: Were you gonna know he broke his leg and you
Speaker 1: paid me twenty dollars for it? No? Either way, if
Speaker 1: I had a hypothetical child, which I do not have,
Speaker 1: any so good at making convincing arguments. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: sleep differently? No? You can you get to feel good
Speaker 1: that you contributed to my non existent son's broken leg
Speaker 1: fund This is fascinating. I don't know what. I have
Speaker 1: nothing to say because there's nothing to be said. Wow,
Speaker 1: and go fund me should not make you refund the
Speaker 1: money just because you didn't make the web series, which
Speaker 1: I know y'all not making them web series. I know
Speaker 1: y'all stealing that money. And you know we don't want
Speaker 1: to watch a web series either way. I say web
Speaker 1: series are different. No, people ain't making them.
Speaker 2: No, But I think like it's like if it's health,
Speaker 2: like that should be real. If it's like hey, should
Speaker 2: be real because like, actually people are dying on medical.
Speaker 1: And what is your So you was gonna get say,
Speaker 1: twenty dollars to the person who was actually not? No,
Speaker 1: he was not yeah, or try to he was gon' even?
Speaker 2: But the web series is like if you donate money
Speaker 2: to like an artistic venture, like you that there's like
Speaker 2: inherent evil in that, even if it's good, there's inherent
Speaker 2: evil And in supporting art. No one should support the
Speaker 2: arts supported shouldn't be supported. I'm just saying guys.
Speaker 1: You don't know if anybody on GoFundMe got their chemo
Speaker 1: or got their leg fixed.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if they got that. Yeah, I'm always making up.
Speaker 1: Don't follow ups on go fund me. I see a
Speaker 1: sad story, I throw a coin and I hope for
Speaker 1: the best. Sometimes I do a follow up because I'm
Speaker 1: just like did you get healthy? Like? Did you? I
Speaker 1: get invested in people's personal stories as well. I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I love to donate to a classroom.
Speaker 1: I love to donate. See that's bullshit. You know, where
Speaker 1: is your pencil money going? Wait what you go see
Speaker 1: the clean nex of the kids put their bugger's in.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna see where your money went. Oh my,
Speaker 1: it's like long con you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like long cme. Then then then then one day there's
Speaker 1: one of the kids is president. You're like, I gave
Speaker 1: you piscils. Now No, He's like, he doesn't know. That's
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. He goes.
Speaker 2: You know, one day I was I was in my
Speaker 2: little classroom. It was third and there was a there
Speaker 2: was a sneeze in my body that rumbled so much
Speaker 2: in my it almost shook me to the court let
Speaker 2: it out, and I almost sneezed bullets and all on
Speaker 2: the chief of police who was visiting our school.
Speaker 1: Got a tissue.
Speaker 3: I got a tissue and I blew my nose and
Speaker 3: that saved me from going down to school to prison
Speaker 3: pipeline and now I'm president.
Speaker 1: You know, like that requires to donate money to that,
Speaker 1: Like that makes sense. Keep scamming go fund me congregation. Guys,
Speaker 1: we've reached the end of the episode. What a wild ride.
Speaker 1: It's Black History Month. Okay, I'm gonna do what I want. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: just when the tailor story all over the place, very crazy,
Speaker 1: don't tweet me about it. Just enjoy the ride. Sometimes
Speaker 1: this is a comedy podcast. I Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: People can find me online.
Speaker 2: My name is it and that's where you can find
Speaker 2: me at Iowa Debris. On Twitter and Instagram. You can
Speaker 2: find me at my house. My address is.
Speaker 1: You don't want people find you.
Speaker 2: My address is uc B Franklin. I live on top
Speaker 2: of uc B Franklin. You can come there snacks at
Speaker 2: the top of the theater. I sit there and I'll
Speaker 2: eat your snacks.
Speaker 1: What is happening, guys? As always, you can find us
Speaker 1: at scamgudspot at gmail dot com. Email us your scams.
Speaker 1: Make sure they're nice and old and retired, like the
Speaker 1: scams that we got today, which you cannot do in
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Speaker 1: watch my Instagram stories. I got attacked by clown, That's true.
Speaker 1: I ran into a clown twice, and I might as
Speaker 1: well just say this because I'm still here. Ran into
Speaker 1: a cloud. It's kind of my fault. Ran into a clown.
Speaker 1: I guess. He was dressed as the joker in a
Speaker 1: Food for Us, which is like a very very bad
Speaker 1: food store that you should never really all into. And
Speaker 1: I filmed him a little bit and he like looked
Speaker 1: at me. Yeah, he saw me filming. Then I was
Speaker 1: driving out Hollywood Boulevard on my way to shoot something,
Speaker 1: and the same clown was their hard argument with someone
Speaker 1: who looked like Harley Quinn but had a bat but
Speaker 1: like a very sad Haley queen and yeah, and they
Speaker 1: started fighting, and then he saw me and I was
Speaker 1: taking a picture again. Then he came up to my cause.
Speaker 1: Literally the plot of The Joker where the Jokers being.
Speaker 2: Attacked by black women. That's all the Joker years about.
Speaker 1: He got in front of my car, stopped my car
Speaker 1: in the middle of traffic. All the other traffic keeps
Speaker 1: going right, the Joker sitting on my car. He's trying
Speaker 1: to wrestle the bat from Harley Quint, who's maybe his lover.
Speaker 1: People have told me they've seen them make out on
Speaker 1: the train and he's trying to take her back to
Speaker 1: my brand new Mercedes. And yes, literally the plot of
Speaker 1: The Joker, this is Todd Phillips is the Joker. So yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: don't be out here filming people for the GRAM. Stop
Speaker 1: doing shit for Cloud. I will stop as well, because
Speaker 1: I almost got my fucking break speed off my car.
Speaker 1: So you know, hey, wow, this is an.
Speaker 2: Insane You can just do like signs and inanimate objects
Speaker 2: for Cloud and even objects are fine, not people.
Speaker 1: Wait really quickly, I'm thinking about Joker now.
Speaker 2: Just do you think that Todd Phillips like was in
Speaker 2: love with the black woman and then she like dumped
Speaker 2: him brutally and that's why he made Joker Because every
Speaker 2: single woman in Joker is like black.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I know who's like kind of like I
Speaker 1: didn't see that. Meaning him, it's yeah, that's what it's
Speaker 1: not for me. It isn't. I didn't want to sit
Speaker 1: in the theater because, you know, the movie be popping off.
Speaker 1: They had too many warnings talk about we looking for shooters.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to that movie. Wow.
Speaker 1: I once actually had a weird moment went to a
Speaker 1: movie theater and looked at the seating arrangement and we're like,
Speaker 1: where would we be able to get out of live
Speaker 1: if there was a shooting? And so we're planning this,
Speaker 1: and then the guy next to us was buying tickets
Speaker 1: and he was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: I was like, this is America, we're talking about to
Speaker 1: exit anyway. This is insane. Guys follow us places. Maybe
Speaker 1: not after that, but that's fine. Tweet has positive things
Speaker 1: about this. It's Black History Month. Go rate this episode
Speaker 1: five stars and give me a nice review and stop
Speaker 1: spelling my name. Oh I have a podcast too, Yes,
Speaker 1: plug your podcast, Jesus, Oh my gosh. It's called Iconography.
Speaker 2: I coast it with my friend Olivia Kraikhead, who's also
Speaker 2: a black woman, who was raised by a white mother,
Speaker 2: but I like her a lot so lazy.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna cut that part out, so oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we talk about celebrity culture, and we bring on
Speaker 2: fun guests and they talk about people who are icons
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: We play games and we talk and it's fun. If
Speaker 1: you like celebrities and people who are neurotic, well that's
Speaker 1: the podcast. All right, guys, if you lasted this long,
Speaker 1: If you lasted this long, I'll tell you one secret.
Speaker 1: Wells and you were right. I did murder somebody. You
Speaker 1: were right all along. We're leaving. You'll never guess where
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