1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Do you want Dan Harris is here. We love our 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Dan Harris. We love you Dan, love you guys, Thank 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: you for coming in. It was like a conversation. How 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: many days ago we were talking about anxiety, this and that. Nate. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Call Dan Harris. Get Dan Harris on the phone. The 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: doctor is in. Ladies and gentlemen, what did that pick 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: up the bathroom? 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dan phone. 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: So it's the lamer version of the batphone. No, it's well, 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: the batphone is no more. So here's here's here's the 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: only phone. 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: So look, there's a conversation going on with our friends 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: and circles and their circle, their friends and so and 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: so on, and you can read about it with total 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: strangers writing about anxiety that's going on right now. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: Uh. 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: The other night, my husband Alex came in from the 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: other room watching the news. He said, I can't. I said, 19 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: you can't. What what can't you do? I can't. I 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: can't watch this news anymore. In his his poems were 21 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: sweating his palm. He was all of the stories out there. 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: You can watch any news and at the end of 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the newscast they always try to give you some nice 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, they saved a puppy from a storm story. 25 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't help anymore. 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: You know what we call that in the news business, 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: the kicker. 28 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: The kicker. 29 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: Every night you have a kicker to make you feel 30 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: better about all the other stuff we just told you. 31 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: You know what makes me feel better, Just kicker. Come here, condy, no, 32 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: thank you, so here at iHeart Dan. I wanted to 33 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: share some information with you. We have an incredible department 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: in our organization that, in my opinion, is the most important. 35 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: They keep an eye on people are feeling and thinking 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: across the country. We have stations, you know, around the world, 37 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: but they want to know what people are thinking, not 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: only in this country but around the world. And so 39 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: every week they give you kind of a little glimpse 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: into how anxious or how happy, how satisfied are our 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: respond responding people are. These are people who listen to us, 42 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: people who do not listen to us, people from both 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: sides of the political aisle, people who are atheist, people 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: who are very religious. They want a Crossruss reference of 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: everything to try to make it as fair as possible. 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: So these results came in this past week, and I 47 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't, I don't know. I feel okay, sharing 48 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: these for the first time in my friend's history and 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: working in this department, the anxiety levels are at their highest, 50 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: and she's been doing this for at least a dozen years. 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: She pulled the anxiety scores. Exactly half of America is 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: rating themselves an eight, a nine, or a ten on 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: a one to ten scale. This is half of the 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: people you see on the streets and people you know 55 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: are at an eight, nine, and ten anxiety level. Half 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: of those twenty five percent of Americans are at boom 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: at a ten. Wow, these numbers are huge. It could 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: be many reasons. And we're talking about this earlier. You 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: want to share with everyone. 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are a couple of things going on. 61 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: First of all, it's very hard to divorce what's happening 62 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: and the chaos that's happening in the ex general world 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: from your inner world. So for sure, the proliferation of 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: chaos and the news is upsetting to many many people. 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: So I think that's would you agree, that's probably one, 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: But there's a part of it. I think it's a 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: part of it. My other diagnosis is that we are 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: living in a way that is contrary to how we evolved. 69 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: Talk about that. 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: So we evolved social animals very much enmeshed in communities, 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: and everything about modern culture militates against that. We're on 72 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: our phones in this hyperindividualistic, hyper perfectionistic, productivity obsessed, fomo obsessed, 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: optimization obsessed culture where we're in our heads and not 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: in relationship, and that triggers anxiety. I think it is 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: a I cannot believe that it's a coincidence that this 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: is happening at the same time that we're seeing record 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: levels of anxiety, depression, addiction, suicide, and loneliness. This I 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: just don't think these are separate yrenances. And I think 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: there's good news that there are little ways that don't 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: require massive projects to re engage with the world and 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: re engage with yourself that will get you lower on 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: the anxiety scale. 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: What was your quote from dan Ganhi that. 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: You like, I think of you all the time. The 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: remedy to anxiety is action, yes, And I think that 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: in so many different ways, because there are lots of 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: different actions we can take, whether it is just something 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: simple like going for a walk, talking to a friend, 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: or joining in service and doing volunteer work and community 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: work to make yourself feel a little bit better about 91 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: some of the icky things that we're seeing. 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Was it so difficult for people to do one or 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: two of those four or five things? 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: Well, because we feel perilous. 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: Why do we feel paralyzed because we have It's this 96 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: phone is what it is. 97 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: Yes, partly, and the world seems hopeless and we feel 98 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: helpless in the face of it. And I get it, 99 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: I totally get it. The thing is, two things are 100 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: true at the same time. There are big problems in 101 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: the world. Things are true. There are big problems in 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: the world. And I'm not trying to gaslight you and 103 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: say that's not true. It's true. But there are two 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: other things that's true that are true. One, your news 105 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: feeds are not showing you the whole picture. The algorithms 106 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: are designed to keep you anxious and angry. Why because 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: it enriches the people who created those algorithms. And so 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: you need to red pill yourself and know that the 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: picture you're being sold on social media is not the 110 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: full truth. And then the third thing that's also true 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: is even to the extent to which the world is messy, 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: you can take little actions that will increase your sense 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: of agency and give you an ennobling, empowered, feeling like 114 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: the things that Gandhi just listed. 115 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Here's what I want you to do. Let's start at 116 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: number two. Let's start talking about algorithms. Okay, unpack that. 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: Maybe people aren't understanding what algorithms are all about, and 118 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: how they are born in your phone and in your life, 119 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and where they come from, and how it affects you 120 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: versus the person who's sitting right next to you with 121 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: the same exact phone. They are seeing a whole different 122 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: world than you. Yes, okay, an algorithm is started by 123 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: your interest in things online. I'm assuming we go to 124 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Instagram and you do what, and it turns into. 125 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: What whether you go to Instagram or TikTok or any 126 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: social media feed, and they're studying what engages you. And 127 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: what they know is that given the that we evolve 128 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: to have a negativity bias to keep us alive, we 129 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: evolve to be on the lookout for threats all the time, 130 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: outrage and anxiety work. They're sticky. They keep us engaged, 131 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: and that's what these social media companies want. They want 132 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: us to stay engaged, so they capitalize for their profit 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: on the vulnerabilities of the human mind, and so You 134 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: just need to know that when you interact with these supercomputers, 135 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: they are not looking out for your best interest when 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: it comes to your mental health. 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example, a simple example than a 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: harsh one number one, meet loaf. Let's say you love meatloaf. 139 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: Keep you keep searching on Instagram and TikTok whatever about 140 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: meat loaf, and you start getting videos sent to you unsolicited. 141 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, these these people know I 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: love meat loaf. Obviously the whole world is loving meat 143 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: loaf because it's all I see on my phone. Okay, Also, 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: plane fights, fights on airplanes, I happen to love those. 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to be one. No, but I'll watch 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: an airplane fight video over and then oh my, here's 147 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: here's another one. And now if you go on my feed, 148 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: it's meat loaf and airplane fights. Therefore, my mind, and 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: here's here's where it becomes real. My mind believes everyone 150 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: is into meat loaf, everyone's into airplane fights. 151 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: Yes, if you had asked me coming into this, that's 152 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: the algorithm. Are the two things that Elvis searches for 153 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: the most, I would have said airplane it's vergorithm. Yeah, 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: that few other things that I didn't say. Yes, it 155 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: gives you the way these news feeds and your social 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: feeds personalized to you can give you a skewed vision 157 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: of the world. And the fact of the matter is, 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: even if you start by searching for something relatively innocuous 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 2: or harmless, like a meat loaf, they will start serving 160 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: you some outrageous or anger or fear inducing content. And 161 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: for most of us it will be sticky. We will 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: not be able to look away, and they'll notice that, 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: and then they'll serve you more and more and more, 164 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: because that that is our vulnerability. We are we we 165 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: were prey animals. We did not stop at the We 166 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: did not start at the top of the food chain. 167 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: We were hairless apes on the savannah, huddled together for safety. 168 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: It's hot, I know, not hot. And the way we 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: got to the top of the food chain is to 170 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: cooperate and collaborate. But we brought all of that prey 171 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: animal anxiety with us at the top of the food chain, 172 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: and so we have we are wired for anxiety because 173 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: we're trying to survive, and these algorithms capitalize on that. 174 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: And what I'm saying to people is know that when 175 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: you go into your phone, try to remember that. 176 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: How do you explain that to the youth of today. 177 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: Like us, being adults, we kind of get it, you know, 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: we're like, you know whatever. But a sixteen year old 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: or a fifteen year old or a fourteen year old, 180 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: they don't get that. They think what they're looking at 181 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: is the truth and that's it. 182 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: Do you remember the nineties and the aughts, there was 183 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: this very successful advertising campaign on MTV to try to 184 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: get kids to stop smoking, and the angle they took 185 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: was not, smoking's bad for you, but these tobacco companies 186 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: are manipulating and lying to you. You should read, you know, 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: you should you know, see through the illusion. Speak up. 188 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: I think that's the I think kids, especially teenagers, are 189 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: inherently rebellious, and they want to see the truth. They 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: want to see through the lies and the manipulation of 191 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: the adults. So that's one angle I'm interested in, Like, 192 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: these these people are manipulating you, don't be suckered, don't 193 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: be fooled. 194 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's you know, And I totally agree, And you, 195 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: being a mother, you know better better than me I'll 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: ever know about people fifteen sixteen. It's the same with 197 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: adults though that this is the difference now. It used 198 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: just to be, in my opinion, more of a youth problem. 199 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Now it's an everyone problem. But adults. Those are the 200 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: future leaders. Those are the people we should be most 201 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: concerned about. In my in my other opinion, I mean, 202 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: these are people. They'll be wiping the drool off my chin. 203 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: I need for them to be able to focus on that. 204 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we are creating a world where, you know, 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: the anxiety levels among young people are skyrocketing, and you're 206 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: a parent, Yeah, I'm an eleven year old boy and 207 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: his friends, and he and his friends, these are anxious kids. 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: They are much more open about their diagnoses and their 209 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: appointments with psychiatrists and psychologists than I was. I actually did. 210 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: I was a rare kid gen xer who did have 211 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: a therapist. It wasn't a common thing, but I didn't 212 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: admit it to anybody. Now it's kind of like, I 213 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: think there are beautiful aspects of that. By the way, 214 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: I think it's great that it's okay to admit that 215 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: you have psychological vulnerabilities or mental health issues. That is amazing. 216 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: But the fact that they're so prevalent right now does 217 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: concern me. 218 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Wow, what do you think, Gandhi? 219 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: Well, I was wondering. You sort of said we were collective, 220 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: We were a collective society. We still are a collective society. 221 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: We should be. 222 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: Do you think that there are things very specific to 223 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: living in the US that make us more sad and 224 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: more depressed that when you look at other societies that 225 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: are more of a collective society, like just Japan, If 226 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: I think about them, it looks like they're all working 227 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: toward a goal together and there isn't as much a 228 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: focus on like me, me, me, and they seem happier 229 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: that way. Do you think there's something to that? 230 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been studies that show that if you 231 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: ask people in the West to draw themselves in relationship 232 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: to their community, they draw themselves really big and everybody 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: else really small, And in Eastern cultures everybody is the 234 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: same size. And so I think there's something of this 235 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: focus on the self that really makes us unhappy because 236 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: it's not how we were designed to live. And I 237 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: don't mean you have to get over yourself and be 238 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: selfless and be a people pleaser. That's not at all 239 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm just saying engagement with the world 240 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: in ways that make you comfortable. You know, for you Gandhi, 241 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: it's little acts of service or getting your friends together 242 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: to do charity campaigns or acts of bigger acts of service. 243 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. That's not going to work for everybody. For 244 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: another person who's maybe very very busy and introvert, little 245 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: there's a lot of research around something called micro interactions. 246 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: That's just like the little interactions you have throughout the 247 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: day with strangers or people you don't know that wells 248 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: up to happy. 249 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: That's a very small little amount of time you have 250 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: with So what is in your opinion, a successful micro interaction? 251 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 2: Eye contact with your barista, How you doing today? Be 252 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: as simple as that. 253 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Something as simple as that, wow, okay. And if you 254 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: work in the retail or the service industry, how many 255 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: people actually look you in the eye and say, hey, 256 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: thank you, this is great, good seeing you today. And 257 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: number is very small? 258 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: I bet it is. And and and the thing is, 259 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this in a wagging my finger at 260 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: people like you should be a better person. I'm saying 261 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: you want to be happier. We all want to be happier. 262 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: This is this is a target rich environment out there 263 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: of just other people who you can be nice to. 264 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 2: Will not enough people pleasing, self sacrificing way, just basic 265 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: decency and friendliness. It's just there's so much available happiness 266 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: out there. 267 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: So easy to forget to be polite. Some people think 268 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm always polite, always, and I always a scary scary 269 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: as a question. Now, I want to get two things. 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: I want to get to the action. You've mentioned a 271 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: few things. I let's get to like real action. We 272 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: can see our people scary speaking. 273 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 5: About anxiety from the standpoint of division of society. I 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 5: hear and I see a lot of people online in 275 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 5: the comments section saying that the. 276 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: News media is the problem. 277 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 5: As a news media veteran yourself, do you see a 278 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: difference in journalism from then to now and how it's covered. 279 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: It's these are business decisions. 280 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Yea, absolutely, you're First of all, I completely cop to 281 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: being an anchor. You can hear my voice. I still 282 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: sound like an anchorman. I was one for thirty years, 283 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: kind of dressed like one. Think you say, how polite 284 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: you were like thirty seconds ago. 285 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I know you're my friend, okay, but you know you're 286 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: his friends. 287 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 6: Okay. 288 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, if you are as old as I am, 289 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: you remember to your point, Scary, there were four three networks, 290 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: the NBC, ABC, CBS. They all had news ferocious news competition, 291 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: competition going on, and they back in the day I'm 292 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: much more fair and balanced than they are now. But 293 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: now because of so many ways we get our news, 294 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: it's business, yes, they don't. Well, if we want this 295 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: certain audience over here, we have to be very very conservative. 296 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: We want this audience, we have to be very liberal. 297 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem to be working out for us. 298 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: It's about incentives, right, So a in a cap setting, 299 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: and I'm not anti capitalist, but in the context of 300 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: a free market, you're going to go where the money is. 301 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: And it's the same psychology I was articulating earlier about 302 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: social media algorithms. For a news outlet, scary, you're going 303 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: to notice that you're going to get more clicks on 304 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: stuff that provokes outrage and fear and so. And this 305 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: has been true for a long time. We used to say, 306 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: in when I was a journalist, we don't report on 307 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: the plane that lands safely, or if it bleeds it leads. 308 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: These were expressions that have been around for a long time, 309 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: and it's because it's what the audience wants, even though 310 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: they may not know they want it. It's what keeps 311 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: people engage, what keeps ratings high. And this is an 312 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: unfortunate reality. I'm not excusing any of this. I'm just 313 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: telling you the truth. Yes, of course it does. It 314 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: creates a lot of anxiety. 315 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: So then they can tell you whytsed to cure the anxiety. 316 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: So it's like you create the patient and then you 317 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: give them the care. 318 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 319 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: So I used to be in the business of creating 320 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: the problem, and now I'm in the business of giving solutions. 321 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: You're solving, You're solving you. Okay, let's let's talk about 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: I still dress poorly. 323 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: That is what Dan is taking away from the I 324 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: didn't say you dressed poorly. 325 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: I know you have beetings today. Hey look action Okay, Okay, 326 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna run out today and do what Gandhi 327 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: did last night. I'm gonna go to a church basement 328 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna peel carrots and we're gonna feed some people. Wow. Okay, 329 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: what other things are there in addition to that, because 330 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: that that is pretty amazing. You do that? What weekly. 331 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: No, like every couple of weeks. 332 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, not only are you feeding people who need to 333 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: be fed, but also there's a community in that kitchen. 334 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: We love it so much fun and you have. 335 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: A common goal. It has nothing to do with what 336 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: you do during the day. It's a whole different world. 337 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: What are some of these other points of action that 338 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: the simple ones and the more more challenging ones just 339 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: go just off the top of your head. 340 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll free associate first just to say, gandhi, that's 341 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: beautiful what you're doing. And I'm mindful of the person 342 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: who's in their car right now or doing chores around 343 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: the house and listening to us and thinking, I'm really busy. 344 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: I can't go out for an evening and spend time 345 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: in a church basement. So for those people who are 346 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: really busy in your life, as you're already living it, 347 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 2: there are things you could just integrate into it. One 348 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: of them we just discussed, which is the science around 349 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: micro interactions, Just these little exchanges you're having all day long. 350 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: Lift your head out of your phone, make brief eye contact. Hey, 351 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: how you doing a ton of research to show that 352 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: adds up? That scales up to a much happier life 353 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: for you. Another thing is very quickly. You can do 354 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: this right in your car, right now. A couple of 355 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: deep breaths resets the nervous system, gets you out of 356 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: your head and into your body. You can do this 357 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: repeatedly throughout the day, and there's a ton of evidence 358 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: to show it helps. And then just another thing is gratitude. 359 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: This sounds like a huge platitude, but just bringing to mind, 360 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: I do this right before I go to bed. What 361 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: are all the good things that happen today? How can 362 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: I counter program against the messages I'm getting from my 363 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: newsfeed about how the world's on fire and not overlook 364 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: the fact that all around us there's beautiful stuff happening. 365 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: People raising their children, holding the door open for somebody else, 366 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: doing service, saying being polite. What are you laughing at? 367 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: Oh? Keep going, keep going, I'm sorry they are. 368 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: I know somebody who actually has something that they say 369 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: every night. They wrote a whole thank you for this, 370 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: and I'm grateful for this, and they say it as 371 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: a mantra every single night. Yes, to say what they're 372 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: thankful for and to put them in a good mind space. 373 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Yeah, And I just think this is a 374 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to tailor my suggestions here 375 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: to the busy person who's telling themselves I've got two 376 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: jobs and five kids, and I just don't have time 377 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: to remake my whole life. There are just these little 378 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: hacks you can integrate into the day that can really 379 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: really help. 380 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: Look, you know, one thing you may think, I can say, Oh, 381 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: that sounds so cute. I'm gonna say out loud to 382 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: myself in my bed, things I'm grateful for. Yeah, then 383 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, then I'll go save whales and hug a 384 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: tree and be grant That sounds amazing. But you know what, 385 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: it does work. It does work. I do one thing. 386 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: I don't do three because I can rarely find two. 387 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: And I'm kidding no. I do every night, every morning, 388 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: and every night last. The first thing I do in 389 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: the morning, the last thing I do before I go 390 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: to sleep, is I'm thinking of something that really great 391 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: that happened today that made me feel really good and 392 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on track to a great a 393 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: great year ahead. It may sound cakey, do it, Just 394 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: try it. I got an interesting call here from Kristin. 395 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: I think this is a very valid question you have, 396 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Kristin her question is who is this person you're talking to? 397 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: Where is he from? Okay, this is Dan Harris. He's 398 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: an old friend of our show. He has a book 399 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: out called ten Percent Happier And don't you think what 400 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: he's talking abouts very valid? Kristen? 401 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 6: It is one hundred percent. I was just telling Diamond, like, 402 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 6: my husband sits on his phone in front of our kids, 403 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 6: and I'm like trying to feed him any information of 404 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 6: why he shouldn't be doing that. So that's why I'm 405 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 6: very curious about where I can get this information to 406 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 6: send it to him. 407 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you resonate with what Elvis was saying about 408 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: the fact that it's easy to write off all of 409 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: these suggestions I'm giving and say, well, it's not going 410 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: to read. You know, the world is so far gone. 411 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: If I am a little bit more grateful, it's not 412 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: going to help. What's the point does any of that 413 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to use the word cynicism or skepticism land 414 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: for you. 415 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm trying to be like less skeptical. 416 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 6: It's funny, like you guys are just talking about gratitude. 417 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 6: I just got my husband's birthday with yesterday. I just 418 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 6: got both of us these books. Let's say one line 419 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 6: a day, and every day you or wake up in 420 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 6: the morning or you do it before batt and you 421 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: write what you're grateful for that day. So we just 422 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 6: started this morning. So it's like it resonates perfectly. 423 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: Great because my point is, I totally understand the skeptical 424 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: line of thinking that you were articulating a moment ago. 425 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: And look, none of us as individuals can control how 426 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: on fire the world appears to be. But how do 427 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: we want to be in the midst of it? Do 428 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: we want to be nodes of sanity, little vectors of 429 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: common sense and decency moving through the world, creating those 430 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: ripple effects, or do we want to be miserable and 431 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: afraid and angry. 432 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: You got to do something, yes, yeah, and. 433 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: You can do little things in your world. As as 434 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: Gandhi said earlier, action, even really tiny action, absorbs your anxiety. 435 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: It can help you pull yourself out of that rut 436 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: and stay engaged. No matter how pessimistic you are about 437 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: the state of the world. That doesn't mean your life 438 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: has to be miserable. You being miserable helps no one. 439 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: There is we we can fall into this performative misery 440 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: because the world is so distasteful. But that is not 441 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: serving you or the problem, but it's also adding to 442 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: the misery. 443 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: Yes, you can take something positive and focus on the positive. 444 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: I'm not saying forget everything bad going on, but like, 445 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: focus more on the positive. You're adding more good things 446 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: into the world. 447 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: It's hard to understand because it's kind of a paradox. 448 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: It's like holding two competing ideas in your mind. One 449 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: way that I've heard this described is to engage joyfully 450 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: in the sorrows of the world. And can you, Kristen, 451 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: what did he just say? 452 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Engage joyfully in the sorrows of the world. What do 453 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: you think you meant by that? 454 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 6: I guess be more positive, stop complaining about all the 455 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 6: things that are going on, and focus on the good 456 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 6: stuff that's going on, and you acknowledge the bad stuff. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 457 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 6: she understood. 458 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I know, just well I did. 459 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm just you know, this is what's your Christian what's 460 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: your review on meatloaf? 461 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: You know, I've never had it, so I don't think 462 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 6: I could be. 463 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: Diamond. How did she get through? 464 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: Not in your algorithm? 465 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: Look? 466 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: Kristin. Best of luck to you and your husband and 467 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: your life, and I thank you so much for listening 468 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: to us. It's much appreciated. 469 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: Thank you. 470 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 6: Best of luck to all of you guys as well. 471 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: You look, this is going to be an ongoing thing. 472 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: I can tell we're living in a world where this 473 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: these stories, some of them are just now beginning, right. 474 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: Really just beginning. And you know if you look at 475 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 2: what's happening geopolitically and nationally, like in the world and 476 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: in our country, that that it can I get it 477 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: when people feel disturbed, and there's all the more reason 478 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: to like fortify yourself, take care of yourself so that 479 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: you can be It's not that is not self indulgent 480 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: or selfish to take care of yourself. The point is 481 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: so that you can be better to your children, better 482 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: to your neighbors. And that matters. That matters. We're not 483 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: all the president of the United the United States, we're 484 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: not the most powerful people in the world. But what 485 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: we do in our little orbit, I really believe it 486 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: does matter everything. 487 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Dan Harris, you can find it Dan Harris dot com. 488 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad you you hooked that one that you that 489 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: you are to pay for it. You have to pay 490 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: for it. Was there another Was there a Dan Harris 491 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: out there? 492 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: Somebody, some guy or some person went out and bought 493 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: the name? And how much did you have to pay? 494 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: Would you tell us it was a couple thousand dollars? Wow? 495 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: Not nothing worth every penny? Well, yeah, I'm glad I 496 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: have it. Otherwise it was going to be Elvis Durant. 497 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Dot com, which will be up for I'm gonna put 498 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: that on auction anyway, which, by the way, redirects you 499 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: to Meetloaf dot com. Strange. Just you wait, Dan, Thank 500 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: you for coming in today. 501 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: Like I said at the beginning, I love you guys. 502 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 503 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Oh that's right. We forgot 504 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: to tell you. This is a week week. I love that. 505 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: But what there's a lot of stuff going on at 506 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: Dan Harris dot com. Do you have any incredible appearances 507 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: coming up? Do you have any events that we need 508 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: to know about. 509 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: I host a podcast that's two or three times a week, 510 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: and I'm talking to some of the smartest people in 511 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: the world about how to get your stuff together so 512 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: that you can be happy and have a regulated nervous system, 513 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: so that you can be positive and productive out in 514 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: the world. That is my lane. That's what I talk about, 515 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: not only experts, but I talk to celebrities everybody from 516 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey to Dua Lipa to on and on and on. 517 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: Is your app live yet? Yes? 518 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: I have an app called ten Percent with Dan Harris, 519 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: where I teach you how to meditate. 520 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Okay, you can find everything all of the above at 521 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: Dan Harris dot com. Thank you for letting me Dan, 522 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: We love you, Thanks for giving. Thank you, Elvis. Enjoy 523 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: your meeting with that conservative button dumb sure. 524 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: Enjoy your meat loaf. You know what I mean by that. 525 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: Don't let your meat loaf. Very important information