Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth. Today, we're joined
Speaker 1: by Tiffany Justice. She's the co founder of Moms for Liberty.
Speaker 1: You know her, we've had her on the show before.
Speaker 2: She is great.
Speaker 1: She's also a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well.
Speaker 1: Today we're going to pack the explosive My Mood versus
Speaker 1: Taylor Supreme Court case. So this battle pits Maryland parents
Speaker 1: against a school district that eliminated their right to opt
Speaker 1: out their kids, their young kids out of curriculum featuring
Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus inclusive books. Now, the school district originally let
Speaker 1: the parents opt out and then change that decision. So
Speaker 1: we're going to cover all the angles of this story,
Speaker 1: from parental rights and religious liberty to the broader fight
Speaker 1: against gender ideology, and and Tiffany's going to break down
Speaker 1: what's at stake, why the school district is digging in,
Speaker 1: you know, why did they allow parents stopped out and
Speaker 1: then change their tune?
Speaker 2: What's that about? And then also how could this.
Speaker 1: Case reshape the feet future of education as well as
Speaker 1: parental rights. So buckle up, we're going to get the
Speaker 1: truth on this case and it's broader implications for you parents,
Speaker 1: stay tuned for tifty Justice Tiffany, It's great to have
Speaker 1: you on the show. I'm looking forward to hearing what
Speaker 1: you have to say about this case. Let's before the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court right now. So thanks for taking the time.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Yeah, last week oral arguments and Mavu v.
Speaker 3: Taylor, a case Lisa that really originated in Maryland in
Speaker 3: a school district. There Moms for Liberty held at town
Speaker 3: Hall in September of last year, and we were hearing
Speaker 3: from parents, Jewish parents, Catholic parents, Muslim parents, parents who
Speaker 3: really didn't have any religion in their lives that they
Speaker 3: were really concerned that their parental rights were being violated
Speaker 3: and that there was really inappropriate content being introduced in
Speaker 3: classrooms as young as kindergarten er pre k this Pride
Speaker 3: storybook collection. So the parents asked for they had an
Speaker 3: opt out and then the opt out was taken away.
Speaker 3: They asked for it to be put back. School district
Speaker 3: said no, and so they have taken They sued the
Speaker 3: school district and now all the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: So yeah, those oral arguments were just fascinating to listen
Speaker 3: to last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting to your point. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: Montgomery County County Public Schools added these LGBTQ plus books
Speaker 1: to its curriculum for pre K through fifth grade. As
Speaker 1: you pointed out, they initially allowed the parental op outs,
Speaker 1: and then in March twenty twenty three, the school board
Speaker 1: eliminated that option, which was what prompted this lawsuit. Why
Speaker 1: do you think they went from allowing the opt out
Speaker 1: to not allowing it.
Speaker 2: It's a really good question, and I think it goes
Speaker 2: to the heart.
Speaker 3: Of what you know, Justice Barrett and some others Kavanaugh
Speaker 3: were getting at, which was is this merely exposure to
Speaker 3: this content or is.
Speaker 2: There ideological indoctrination happening?
Speaker 3: Is there coercion happening where the school district feels that
Speaker 3: it's very important board fields it's important for this subject
Speaker 3: matter to be taught to children, And you know, I
Speaker 3: think it's important. When you look at LGBTQ, there's lgb
Speaker 3: which is sexual orientation. Then you have this tea which
Speaker 3: is transgender. And you know, Lisa, I've been really honest
Speaker 3: about saying I don't believe there's anything such as a
Speaker 3: transgender child. We have kids who have a mental distress,
Speaker 3: they feel some incongruence between their biological sex and what
Speaker 3: they think is their gendered soul or their gender identity.
Speaker 3: But you know, make no mistake, men can never be
Speaker 3: women and vice versa. And so you have this situation
Speaker 3: where it's very clear that Montgomery County Public Schools that
Speaker 3: allows opt outs for a new number of other things,
Speaker 3: dissections of animals, even a health and sexuality education that
Speaker 3: happens in like fifth grade there.
Speaker 2: But in this instance, yeah, no opt outs. And it
Speaker 2: was interesting.
Speaker 3: One of the things that was brought up by the
Speaker 3: school district in the case when it was in the
Speaker 3: fourth Circuit before it came to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: But then the lawyers brought.
Speaker 3: Up again was this idea of there were too many
Speaker 3: kids opting out, so it was really hard for the
Speaker 3: school district to be able to handle all of the
Speaker 3: opt outs.
Speaker 2: And I just feel, you know.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a sign from the community that the school district,
Speaker 3: which is supposed to represent the wants of the parents
Speaker 3: of the needs of the children, is really out of
Speaker 3: line and out of touch with their community members.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting is some of these examples include, you know,
Speaker 1: uncle Bobby's wedding, a story about a girl attending or
Speaker 1: uncle's same sex wedding, or Pride Puppy features a puppy
Speaker 1: loss during Pride Pride Parade intersection Allies My Rainbow, which
Speaker 1: explores gender identity. That's for second grade.
Speaker 2: What's interesting is if you.
Speaker 1: Look at the plaintiffs, it's a really diverse group of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, a Muslim family, a Roman
Speaker 1: Catholic family. So I think that, you know, that also
Speaker 1: makes this case particularly interesting as well. It's not you know,
Speaker 1: one particular, one particular religious group that is expressing concern here.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: Justice Kagan actually said though, and you know, normally a
Speaker 3: fairly left linging or liberal judge said, you know, I
Speaker 3: would imagine that there were parents who were religious that
Speaker 3: have an issue with this subject matter being introduced in
Speaker 3: element school. And that's very, very true. The least interesting
Speaker 3: thing about a child should be their sexual orientation, and
Speaker 3: the idea that somehow a teacher is talking about their
Speaker 3: own sexual orientation in the classroom will be completely inappropriate.
Speaker 3: You know, Maryland public schools not doing very great as
Speaker 3: far as reading in math is concerned. Once the third
Speaker 3: in the nation in twenty thirteen, now I think it
Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty two, had dropped to like in
Speaker 3: the twentieth percent Chile the twentieth of all of the states.
Speaker 3: So not really killing it on the academic side. So
Speaker 3: one has to wonder why they have so much time
Speaker 3: for all of this.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like what child pre k through fifth grade
Speaker 1: understands what sexual orientation means or is or you know,
Speaker 1: like what child that young is even thinking these these
Speaker 1: things at that age, and.
Speaker 3: What adult wants to talk to a child about sexual orientation?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And so again, you know, I think it was just
Speaker 3: as Roberts that was kind of going through some of
Speaker 3: the books, and you know, Lisa, you know, I've been
Speaker 3: moms across the country have been really concerned about the
Speaker 3: subject matter that is in the public library, excuse me,
Speaker 3: in the school public school libraries.
Speaker 2: Right. But it was I'm not.
Speaker 3: Going to lie a little vindicating to hear that the justices,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of surprised about the content in the books,
Speaker 3: just as Robert's question and said, so they're asking the
Speaker 3: kids and it's a pre k book, Pride Puppy to
Speaker 3: point out leather, And I think he said sex sex worker,
Speaker 3: and the lawyer for Montgomery County Public School said, well,
Speaker 3: the leather's a leather jacket, not bondage. And you know
Speaker 3: it's not a sex worker, it's a drag queen. And
Speaker 3: then it's like, Okay, why do we need to talk
Speaker 3: to four year olds about drag queens?
Speaker 2: How is this appropriate?
Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like the point is to force the
Speaker 1: issue and to force the conversation, to like force a
Speaker 1: child to be exposed to something that they're too young for.
Speaker 3: Well, and I think that's the point, right, And again
Speaker 3: that's what Jessice Barrett was getting at. She said, you know,
Speaker 3: it's one thing to say some people think X and
Speaker 3: some people think why, and people think different things. It's
Speaker 3: another thing to say some people think X and some
Speaker 3: people think why. And if you don't think X, then
Speaker 3: you're a hateful bigot. And the issue of this idea
Speaker 3: of the school district using I think it was either
Speaker 3: Justice or Leito or Gorsich that said in temperate language
Speaker 3: against the parents. When the case was going through the
Speaker 3: fourth circuit, there were some comments made about the Muslim parents,
Speaker 3: comparing them to the KKK and calling them a hate
Speaker 3: group because they didn't want this subject matter taught to
Speaker 3: their kids. And so you know, there is an intentional
Speaker 3: war on parental rights and on family happening in America.
Speaker 3: We can see it all over the country. You have
Speaker 3: that case in Colorado right now. The law that is
Speaker 3: being pat that you know, the governor may sign that
Speaker 3: says that if you're a parent and you don't want
Speaker 3: to affirm your child's want of changing their gender, that
Speaker 3: somehow you might lose custody of your child or that
Speaker 3: might be considered abuse. And so, you know, this idea
Speaker 3: of sexualizing children, blurring the lines between adult and child,
Speaker 3: even going so far as when you look at you know,
Speaker 3: the idea of a pedophile being you know, reclassified as
Speaker 3: a map. They call it minor attracted person. I think
Speaker 3: parents are just like you know, pushing the brakes and saying,
Speaker 3: wait a second here, these are our kids. We're really
Speaker 3: concerned about the content that's being taught in these schools,
Speaker 3: the subject matter that's being introduced to them. And when
Speaker 3: there's anything that's you know, going outside of reading, writing
Speaker 3: and math, we want to say in it. And if
Speaker 3: we don't like it, you know, we want to be
Speaker 3: able to opt the kids out. Justice Kavanaugh asked during
Speaker 3: the oral arguments, he said, is this really the hill
Speaker 3: that Montgomery County Public Schools is going to die on?
Speaker 3: A state that was founded on religious liberty Catholics, you know,
Speaker 3: founding Maryland and now all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 3: no opt out specifically for this subject matter. You know,
Speaker 3: he said, I think I think the word he used
Speaker 3: was he was mystified.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, it does kind of mystify.
Speaker 1: You know, it is really interesting why they want to
Speaker 1: die on this hill. Although we say, you know, the
Speaker 1: plaintiffs in this case, the parents, the lost, but in
Speaker 1: the federal District court as well as the Fourth Circuit
Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. I assume now because there were before
Speaker 1: a more conservative Supreme Court, you know, how are they
Speaker 1: feeling about this? There are the chances pretty high that
Speaker 1: you know, the win. And yeah, since.
Speaker 3: Everything that we've seen, it looks good, right. You know,
Speaker 3: I've been watching a lot of different commentators. You know,
Speaker 3: Jonathan Turley's talked about it a little bit. He's a
Speaker 3: expert on the Supreme Court. He said, he really feels
Speaker 3: like the parents are going to win here. It'll be
Speaker 3: interesting to see what the ruling is if it's six'
Speaker 3: three maybe seven to. Two Maybe kagan decides that she
Speaker 3: feels like this information is going too far and parents
Speaker 3: should be able to opt. Out and let's you, know
Speaker 3: be clear about. That they're just asking for an opt.
Speaker 3: Out the parents aren't asking to change with the subject matter.
Speaker 2: Is in the schools that's being.
Speaker 3: Covered they just want to be able to remove their
Speaker 3: children and that subject matter is being.
Speaker 2: INTRODUCED i would take it one step.
Speaker 3: Further one of the QUESTIONS i think it Was Kagan
Speaker 3: jackson And sodomayor, asked, was you, know, well where's the
Speaker 3: line here so parents could just opt out of?
Speaker 2: Anything so, Too mayor went as far as to.
Speaker 3: Say, well what if parents want to opt out of
Speaker 3: Interracial well that's, ridiculous you, know comparing the idea of
Speaker 3: gender identity or gender ideology to interrational marriage is, nonsense
Speaker 3: because gender ideology is a, lie you. Know and my
Speaker 3: question back to, Them, lisa would be, this when what
Speaker 3: can schools lie to kids?
Speaker 2: About where's the.
Speaker 3: Line between teaching the truth and teaching a? Lie and,
Speaker 3: then you, know because there, again gender ideology is pseudoscientific.
Speaker 2: Nonsense there are men and there are. Women there's no
Speaker 2: such thing as.
Speaker 3: Transgender the idea that you could change your biological, sex
Speaker 3: it's just. Crazy and the fact that we're introducing this
Speaker 3: to children is really child, abuse in my. Opinion so
Speaker 3: it'll be really interesting to see what happens in this.
Speaker 3: Case but going further than, THAT i think we need
Speaker 3: to have a very big conversation about gender, ideology and
Speaker 3: as far As i'm, concerned it just has no place
Speaker 3: in public.
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Speaker 1: just part of this broader parental rights conversation we've been.
Speaker 1: HAVING i, mean we even saw this play out in
Speaker 1: The virginia gubernatorial race Between terry mccaulliffe And Glenn. Yanka
Speaker 1: And terry mcculliffe was basically, like parents, shouldn't you, know
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in control of what their kids are being
Speaker 1: taught in the school. SYSTEM i, mean this kind of
Speaker 1: like started more DURING covid and it in terms of
Speaker 1: the parents really just saying what their kids were being.
Speaker 3: Taught, yeah parents were sitting at their kitchen table with their, kids,
Speaker 3: right moms and, dads, everybody the world Stops march, thirteenth twenty.
Speaker 3: Twenty all the kids go on to zoom and the
Speaker 3: parents are sitting there watching what their children are learning
Speaker 3: and seeing where they have to efficiencies in, reading, writing and.
Speaker 3: Math but then also this subject, matter very divisive subject subject,
Speaker 3: matter Anti, american Anti, god anti. Family parents started to
Speaker 3: get really concerned and. Upset and you're, Right Governor youngkin
Speaker 3: And terry. Mccauliffe you, know When Governor youngkin, won he
Speaker 3: was standing up and, saying, NO i do believe that
Speaker 3: parents should have a say in what their kids. LEARN
Speaker 3: i think the conversation becomes broader and we start talking
Speaker 3: about school. Choice just As jackson said in her in
Speaker 3: The Oral, arguments, well you, know if a parent doesn't
Speaker 3: like what's being, taught well then they should just.
Speaker 2: Homeschool they should just you, know not send their kids
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 3: School well it's easy for her to, say first of,
Speaker 3: all she sent her kids to private.
Speaker 2: School that's.
Speaker 3: Interesting not of a parent can afford private, school and
Speaker 3: there isn't school choice In. Maryland BUT i think this
Speaker 3: will play into a larger conversation about school.
Speaker 2: Choice President trump.
Speaker 3: Has been very, clear even in conversations with, me about
Speaker 3: the fact that he thinks every parent should have the,
Speaker 3: fund has the fundamental right to direct the education of their.
Speaker 3: Kids he wants to give us much opportunity at school
Speaker 3: choices possible to. Families SO i think this will be
Speaker 3: part of a larger conversation of, parents you, know being
Speaker 3: able to select schools at one unfold the full academic
Speaker 3: potential of their, child but two reflect the values that
Speaker 3: they hold dear in their.
Speaker 1: HOME i think it's also this broader effort to try
Speaker 1: to like tear families, apart you, know because if you
Speaker 1: look at states Like, california where you, know the school
Speaker 1: doesn't have to notify the parents if the student changes
Speaker 1: their name or their. Gender you, know if you Tell
Speaker 1: paulina so you can Be Paul and by the, way
Speaker 1: like you don't have to go home and tell your.
Speaker 1: PARENTS i mean that creates a division in the. FAMILY
Speaker 1: i mean you're really pitting like the state and the
Speaker 1: child versus the parent and the family.
Speaker 3: Structure, yeah we used to call people that told kids
Speaker 3: to keep secrets from their parents'. Predators the idea that
Speaker 3: you have government schools that are encouraging children to keep
Speaker 3: secrets from their, families to lie to their, parents to
Speaker 3: lead a double life in, school using a name in
Speaker 3: pronouns at school that are different than the name and
Speaker 3: pronouns used by the school with.
Speaker 2: The, parents and is.
Speaker 3: Crazy these are government, Schools they are funded by taxpayer.
Speaker 3: Dollars teachers are government, employees and so the idea this
Speaker 3: is happening is.
Speaker 2: Nuts you're.
Speaker 3: Right In california and other, states there has been a
Speaker 3: push to drive a wedge between the parent and the.
Speaker 3: Child and you, KNOW i, MEAN i look At Randy,
Speaker 3: weingarten head of the teachers'. Union she's not having her own,
Speaker 3: kids they want, ours and they want to indoctrinate them
Speaker 3: in a very socialist way of, government in a way
Speaker 3: of looking at the. WORLD i, MEAN i DARE i say, communists?
Speaker 3: Right and so there are things that are happening across
Speaker 3: public schools In america right now that parents should be
Speaker 3: really concerned. About there's this push for something called community
Speaker 3: schools where they want to put school based health clinics
Speaker 3: into the. Schools, well when you have agents of informed,
Speaker 3: consent that's when a child can give consent to medications
Speaker 3: and other things on their own at the age of twelve,
Speaker 3: sometimes and then you have school based health clinics with you,
Speaker 3: know public private, partnerships people Like Planned parenthood coming into
Speaker 3: your school and being able to have interactions with your
Speaker 3: students without your knowledge and. Consent it gets really. Concerning
Speaker 3: so parents need to be paying. Attention the interesting thing
Speaker 3: when you look At, california for, example is that our
Speaker 3: good Friend Governor newsom or As President trump likes to call,
Speaker 3: Him Governor. Newscomb you, know if you look at what
Speaker 3: happened In, california there was a similar bill that passed
Speaker 3: The senate in The house In california to this one
Speaker 3: In colorado That i'm talking about currently that's going to
Speaker 3: be is being actually heard in committee of The, SENATE
Speaker 3: i believe. Tomorrow But Governor newsom didn't sign that bill into.
Speaker 3: Law he has his eyes on the presidency and SO
Speaker 3: i think he knows this issue overwhelmingly is something that
Speaker 3: people In america don't. Support people don't want girls and boys,
Speaker 3: sports they don't want you, know secrets being kept from
Speaker 3: them by government. Schools and So Governor newsom did not
Speaker 3: sign that.
Speaker 2: Bill he vetoed. It it'll be interesting to see What
Speaker 2: Governor polus. Does he, ALSO i think.
Speaker 3: Has political aspirations to make it to The White house
Speaker 3: and so signing these types of bills that are really on.
Speaker 3: Popular so you have very progressive you Know house and
Speaker 3: said it In colorado pushing this, bill just like In.
Speaker 3: California and it seems like The Democratic party is going
Speaker 3: to split because really elected officials, know but you, know
Speaker 3: governed at the governor, level that this stuff is just
Speaker 3: not things that Broadly americans.
Speaker 1: Support well that's interesting, too because when you dig into
Speaker 1: some of these other books that have been the point
Speaker 1: of discussion with, you With moms Of liberty and just
Speaker 1: elsewhere in the, country Like Gender, queer which contains explicit
Speaker 1: illustrations of oral sex and, masturbation or you, know Law
Speaker 1: envoy descriptions of sex between men and, children which is
Speaker 1: disgusting obviously, pedophila. Pedophilia you know these books that were you,
Speaker 1: know probably shouldn't be written period in my, opinion but
Speaker 1: definitely should. Not kids shouldn't have access to or you,
Speaker 1: know even young you know in the school system should
Speaker 1: not have access. TO i, mean it seems like the
Speaker 1: point is to strip a child of his or her,
Speaker 1: innocence because is if you're that young and you get
Speaker 1: access to a book like, THIS i, mean how are
Speaker 1: you not depriving the trial of their.
Speaker 3: Innocence you're, right they're robbing kids of their, childhood and
Speaker 3: they're really stealing the joys of sex from kids from
Speaker 3: like as a young adolescence, too. RIGHT i, mean you
Speaker 3: remember in high school your first kiss and all of
Speaker 3: those things that we're exciting and new and you, know
Speaker 3: you discover it and all of a, sudden now at you,
Speaker 3: know at eleven years, old this book is being shoved
Speaker 3: in front of you without this graphic sexual, content and
Speaker 3: they're you, know rampant. Pornography obviously online that you, know
Speaker 3: children oftentimes have access to, unfortunately AND i know there
Speaker 3: are a lot of bills to try to address. THAT
Speaker 3: i think you're right, ultimately you, know one of the
Speaker 3: goals of communism is to destabilize the, family and by
Speaker 3: destabilizing the youth and making them h you, know reject
Speaker 3: the tradition of, home reject, religion, uh you, know really
Speaker 3: blurring the line between parent and. Child we didn't talk
Speaker 3: about THE i mean parent child and. A we didn't
Speaker 3: talk about THE q part OF, lgbtq but we.
Speaker 2: Can for a. Second that's queer. Theory there's no limiting.
Speaker 3: Principles why that flag constantly changes and so AGAIN i
Speaker 3: talked about that minor attracted person, that you, know just
Speaker 3: destigmatizing anything that isn't normal and. Traditional that's the goal
Speaker 3: of queer. Theory, again AS i, said there's no limiting principle.
Speaker 3: There so the worst of what you can, imagine people
Speaker 3: Like Michelle bluco and, Others Judith, butler you, know do
Speaker 3: a little studying about queer. THEORY i did a podcast
Speaker 3: once with a, Gentleman Derek, jensen who talked about the
Speaker 3: depths of queer, theory which is pretty, dark and so
Speaker 3: there's a real undercurrent here of something THAT i think
Speaker 3: a lot of people would define as, evil but without
Speaker 3: a doubt it's completely. Inappropriated, YEAH i, mean let kids be.
Speaker 3: Kids you, know we need to protect that time in their.
Speaker 3: Lives and who's going to protect it more than a parent,
Speaker 3: Honestly so we have to rise.
Speaker 2: Up, well it's like kind.
Speaker 1: Of funny because like the point is to keep it so,
Speaker 1: confusing where like they keep adding like plus, minus you,
Speaker 1: know all these different things and change the flag, constantly you,
Speaker 1: know the Gay pride, flag so it's like no one
Speaker 1: even knows what the hell any of it. Means and
Speaker 1: then if you like question, it well you're a bigot for.
Speaker 1: Queeno like, right it's kind of, like, yeah this chaotic
Speaker 1: like crazy thing to make it so confusing and, chaotic
Speaker 1: and then to question something which is so ridiculous on its,
Speaker 1: face and then you, know smack a label on you
Speaker 1: for questioning that something on its face that's just complicated
Speaker 1: and you, know chaotic to begin.
Speaker 3: With, Yeah Babylon be put out a you, know a
Speaker 3: meme andut it SAID lgbtq PLUS ms thirteen and it
Speaker 3: really kind of drives home the point that the issue
Speaker 3: is never the.
Speaker 2: Issue the issue is always the.
Speaker 3: Revolution so that's why you see queers For palestine right
Speaker 3: where you, know a gay person In palestine wouldn't make
Speaker 3: it very long openly, gay but somehow In, america you,
Speaker 3: know those two things, converge and so.
Speaker 2: The issue is never the. Issue the issue is always.
Speaker 3: Revolution it's whatever is useful to Disrupt western. Civilization and
Speaker 3: you know it's going to take, again AS i, said
Speaker 3: just people standing up and saying, no we Love, America
Speaker 3: we're proud of our. COUNTRY i think it's really interesting
Speaker 3: that you have this really massive attack On western civilization
Speaker 3: In america as we know, it while you have this amazing, president,
Speaker 3: Right President, trump who's bringing Back Columbus, day and we're
Speaker 3: on the cusp of celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth
Speaker 3: anniversary of our nation Of. America and so it's going
Speaker 3: to be a very interesting few. Years President trump is working.
Speaker 3: HARD i think for anyone who voted for, him we
Speaker 3: need to remember that we need to help him keep
Speaker 3: the will of the.
Speaker 2: People you, know they may take some sacrifice in the short.
Speaker 3: Term there's no doubt that some of the decisions that
Speaker 3: he's making are going to have an impact on our
Speaker 3: lives and our ability to do certain. Things you, know the,
Speaker 3: tariffs there's a lot of uncertainty around, that but, ultimately you,
Speaker 3: know we need to.
Speaker 2: Sacrifice for our.
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Speaker 3: children AND i Think american parents are here for the long.
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Speaker 1: think the broader implications are of This mamude Versus taylor?
Speaker 1: Case if the parents are, victorious, WELL i think it's going.
Speaker 3: To be a real sign to school districts across the
Speaker 3: country that parents do have parental.
Speaker 2: Rights in, fact there's been some question to.
Speaker 3: That we also have seen some really crazy judicial decisions
Speaker 3: being made in lower, courts and, so you, KNOW i
Speaker 3: think that there's something called The Family rights And Responsibilities.
Speaker 3: Acts that line Is Defending freedom put out that said
Speaker 3: to federal courts at least that they need to use strict.
Speaker 3: Scrutiny they need to apply strict scrutiny when looking at
Speaker 3: anything having to do with parental. Rights that means that
Speaker 3: the burden is on the, state not the, parents to
Speaker 3: prove that they have the right to direct the upbring
Speaker 3: of their. Child i've said, before it's a fundamental. Right
Speaker 3: that means that the government doesn't give it to. You
Speaker 3: it's given to you By god. Right so the idea
Speaker 3: that the government takes it away indy capacity is. Ridiculous,
Speaker 3: now you don't have the right to abuse your. Child
Speaker 3: so something like gender or firming, care which we know
Speaker 3: is a horrible puberty blockers cross.
Speaker 2: Sex foremones can't do.
Speaker 3: That but you know that that should be the very
Speaker 3: worst of what's happening to a, child to have a
Speaker 3: parent harm them in that.
Speaker 2: Way and SO i think that the implications will be.
Speaker 3: Broad it will send a message to school districts that
Speaker 3: they need to respect parential, rights and that is a huge.
Speaker 3: Win and, then you, Know, LISA i think we built from.
Speaker 3: THERE i think we do push to continue to remove
Speaker 3: certain content from, classrooms AND i think you're going to
Speaker 3: see other cases make it to The Supreme court around
Speaker 3: the issue of parential rights in a lot of different.
Speaker 1: Ways who's winning this fight right?
Speaker 2: Now moms and, Dads my money's on moms and.
Speaker 3: Dads nobody's going to fight for anything like a parent
Speaker 3: is going to fight for their. Kids we have a
Speaker 3: president who believes in, parents has backed us one hundred.
Speaker 2: Percent we have The house and The.
Speaker 3: Senate it would be nice to see them taking some
Speaker 3: action to codify some of these executive orders into, law
Speaker 3: and you have parents standing up all over the. Country
Speaker 3: i'll bring Up colorado. Again people are standing up and
Speaker 3: fighting In. Colorado you have a very Progressive house And
Speaker 3: senate In, colorado but you have a governor who knows
Speaker 3: MAYBE i should sign that bill right that may not
Speaker 3: be good for my political. Future so you, know people
Speaker 3: just need to stand up and band. Together because if
Speaker 3: you're thinking that it's inappropriate for a child to read,
Speaker 3: about you, know sex toys in a, classroom that you're
Speaker 3: probably not the only.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean it is kind of funny because DURING,
Speaker 1: covid it was like wear your mask and people are like,
Speaker 1: okay and they're like social distance and people are like,
Speaker 1: okay and then they like get the. Vaccine they're. Okay
Speaker 1: but then once they saw what their kids were being,
Speaker 1: taught they're, like, oh, heck, no you know that's, right you,
Speaker 1: know like they took the beating until it reached their
Speaker 1: kids and then you, know and then that's when people
Speaker 1: started or you, know standing up for kids getting back
Speaker 1: to school and things like. That So Tiffty, justice you're.
Speaker 1: Great appreciate the work that you're, doing and really appreciate
Speaker 1: you making the time to come on the.
Speaker 2: Show thank you for having, Me. Lisa that Was Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Justice appreciate her for making the time to come on the.
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