1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth. Today, we're joined 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: by Tiffany Justice. She's the co founder of Moms for Liberty. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: You know her, we've had her on the show before. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: She is great. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: She's also a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation as well. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Today we're going to pack the explosive My Mood versus 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Taylor Supreme Court case. So this battle pits Maryland parents 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: against a school district that eliminated their right to opt 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: out their kids, their young kids out of curriculum featuring 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus inclusive books. Now, the school district originally let 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: the parents opt out and then change that decision. So 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: we're going to cover all the angles of this story, 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: from parental rights and religious liberty to the broader fight 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: against gender ideology, and and Tiffany's going to break down 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: what's at stake, why the school district is digging in, 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, why did they allow parents stopped out and 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: then change their tune? 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: What's that about? And then also how could this. 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: Case reshape the feet future of education as well as 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: parental rights. So buckle up, we're going to get the 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: truth on this case and it's broader implications for you parents, 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: stay tuned for tifty Justice Tiffany, It's great to have 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: you on the show. I'm looking forward to hearing what 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: you have to say about this case. Let's before the 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court right now. So thanks for taking the time. 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: You're welcome. Yeah, last week oral arguments and Mavu v. 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: Taylor, a case Lisa that really originated in Maryland in 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: a school district. There Moms for Liberty held at town 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: Hall in September of last year, and we were hearing 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: from parents, Jewish parents, Catholic parents, Muslim parents, parents who 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: really didn't have any religion in their lives that they 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: were really concerned that their parental rights were being violated 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: and that there was really inappropriate content being introduced in 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: classrooms as young as kindergarten er pre k this Pride 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: storybook collection. So the parents asked for they had an 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: opt out and then the opt out was taken away. 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: They asked for it to be put back. School district 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: said no, and so they have taken They sued the 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: school district and now all the way to the Supreme Court. 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, those oral arguments were just fascinating to listen 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: to last week. 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting to your point. In twenty twenty two, 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Montgomery County County Public Schools added these LGBTQ plus books 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: to its curriculum for pre K through fifth grade. As 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: you pointed out, they initially allowed the parental op outs, 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: and then in March twenty twenty three, the school board 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: eliminated that option, which was what prompted this lawsuit. Why 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: do you think they went from allowing the opt out 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: to not allowing it. 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: It's a really good question, and I think it goes 51 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: to the heart. 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: Of what you know, Justice Barrett and some others Kavanaugh 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: were getting at, which was is this merely exposure to 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: this content or is. 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: There ideological indoctrination happening? 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: Is there coercion happening where the school district feels that 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: it's very important board fields it's important for this subject 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: matter to be taught to children, And you know, I 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: think it's important. When you look at LGBTQ, there's lgb 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: which is sexual orientation. Then you have this tea which 61 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: is transgender. And you know, Lisa, I've been really honest 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: about saying I don't believe there's anything such as a 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: transgender child. We have kids who have a mental distress, 64 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: they feel some incongruence between their biological sex and what 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: they think is their gendered soul or their gender identity. 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: But you know, make no mistake, men can never be 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: women and vice versa. And so you have this situation 68 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 3: where it's very clear that Montgomery County Public Schools that 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: allows opt outs for a new number of other things, 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: dissections of animals, even a health and sexuality education that 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: happens in like fifth grade there. 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: But in this instance, yeah, no opt outs. And it 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: was interesting. 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: One of the things that was brought up by the 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: school district in the case when it was in the 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: fourth Circuit before it came to the Supreme Court. 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: But then the lawyers brought. 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 3: Up again was this idea of there were too many 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: kids opting out, so it was really hard for the 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: school district to be able to handle all of the 81 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: opt outs. 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: And I just feel, you know. 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: Isn't that a sign from the community that the school district, 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: which is supposed to represent the wants of the parents 85 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: of the needs of the children, is really out of 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: line and out of touch with their community members. 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: And what's interesting is some of these examples include, you know, 88 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: uncle Bobby's wedding, a story about a girl attending or 89 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: uncle's same sex wedding, or Pride Puppy features a puppy 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: loss during Pride Pride Parade intersection Allies My Rainbow, which 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: explores gender identity. That's for second grade. 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: What's interesting is if you. 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Look at the plaintiffs, it's a really diverse group of people. Yeah, 94 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, a Muslim family, a Roman 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: Catholic family. So I think that, you know, that also 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: makes this case particularly interesting as well. It's not you know, 97 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: one particular, one particular religious group that is expressing concern here. 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: You're right. 99 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: Justice Kagan actually said though, and you know, normally a 100 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: fairly left linging or liberal judge said, you know, I 101 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: would imagine that there were parents who were religious that 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: have an issue with this subject matter being introduced in 103 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: element school. And that's very, very true. The least interesting 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: thing about a child should be their sexual orientation, and 105 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: the idea that somehow a teacher is talking about their 106 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: own sexual orientation in the classroom will be completely inappropriate. 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: You know, Maryland public schools not doing very great as 108 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: far as reading in math is concerned. Once the third 109 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: in the nation in twenty thirteen, now I think it 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty two, had dropped to like in 111 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: the twentieth percent Chile the twentieth of all of the states. 112 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: So not really killing it on the academic side. So 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: one has to wonder why they have so much time 114 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: for all of this. 115 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's like what child pre k through fifth grade 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: understands what sexual orientation means or is or you know, 117 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: like what child that young is even thinking these these 118 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: things at that age, and. 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: What adult wants to talk to a child about sexual orientation? 120 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Right? 121 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: And so again, you know, I think it was just 122 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: as Roberts that was kind of going through some of 123 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: the books, and you know, Lisa, you know, I've been 124 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: moms across the country have been really concerned about the 125 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: subject matter that is in the public library, excuse me, 126 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: in the school public school libraries. 127 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: Right. But it was I'm not. 128 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Going to lie a little vindicating to hear that the justices, 129 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: you know, kind of surprised about the content in the books, 130 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: just as Robert's question and said, so they're asking the 131 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: kids and it's a pre k book, Pride Puppy to 132 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: point out leather, And I think he said sex sex worker, 133 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: and the lawyer for Montgomery County Public School said, well, 134 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: the leather's a leather jacket, not bondage. And you know 135 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 3: it's not a sex worker, it's a drag queen. And 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: then it's like, Okay, why do we need to talk 137 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: to four year olds about drag queens? 138 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: How is this appropriate? 139 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like the point is to force the 140 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: issue and to force the conversation, to like force a 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: child to be exposed to something that they're too young for. 142 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: Well, and I think that's the point, right, And again 143 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: that's what Jessice Barrett was getting at. She said, you know, 144 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: it's one thing to say some people think X and 145 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: some people think why, and people think different things. It's 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: another thing to say some people think X and some 147 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: people think why. And if you don't think X, then 148 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: you're a hateful bigot. And the issue of this idea 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: of the school district using I think it was either 150 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: Justice or Leito or Gorsich that said in temperate language 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: against the parents. When the case was going through the 152 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: fourth circuit, there were some comments made about the Muslim parents, 153 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: comparing them to the KKK and calling them a hate 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: group because they didn't want this subject matter taught to 155 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: their kids. And so you know, there is an intentional 156 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: war on parental rights and on family happening in America. 157 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: We can see it all over the country. You have 158 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: that case in Colorado right now. The law that is 159 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: being pat that you know, the governor may sign that 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: says that if you're a parent and you don't want 161 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: to affirm your child's want of changing their gender, that 162 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: somehow you might lose custody of your child or that 163 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: might be considered abuse. And so, you know, this idea 164 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: of sexualizing children, blurring the lines between adult and child, 165 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: even going so far as when you look at you know, 166 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: the idea of a pedophile being you know, reclassified as 167 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: a map. They call it minor attracted person. I think 168 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: parents are just like you know, pushing the brakes and saying, 169 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: wait a second here, these are our kids. We're really 170 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: concerned about the content that's being taught in these schools, 171 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: the subject matter that's being introduced to them. And when 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: there's anything that's you know, going outside of reading, writing 173 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: and math, we want to say in it. And if 174 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: we don't like it, you know, we want to be 175 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: able to opt the kids out. Justice Kavanaugh asked during 176 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: the oral arguments, he said, is this really the hill 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: that Montgomery County Public Schools is going to die on? 178 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: A state that was founded on religious liberty Catholics, you know, 179 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: founding Maryland and now all of a sudden, you know, 180 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: no opt out specifically for this subject matter. You know, 181 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: he said, I think I think the word he used 182 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: was he was mystified. 183 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, it does kind of mystify. 184 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: You know, it is really interesting why they want to 185 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: die on this hill. Although we say, you know, the 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: plaintiffs in this case, the parents, the lost, but in 187 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: the federal District court as well as the Fourth Circuit 188 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. I assume now because there were before 189 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: a more conservative Supreme Court, you know, how are they 190 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: feeling about this? There are the chances pretty high that 191 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: you know, the win. And yeah, since. 192 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: Everything that we've seen, it looks good, right. You know, 193 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: I've been watching a lot of different commentators. You know, 194 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: Jonathan Turley's talked about it a little bit. He's a 195 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: expert on the Supreme Court. He said, he really feels 196 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: like the parents are going to win here. It'll be 197 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: interesting to see what the ruling is if it's six' 198 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: three maybe seven to. Two Maybe kagan decides that she 199 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: feels like this information is going too far and parents 200 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: should be able to opt. Out and let's you, know 201 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: be clear about. That they're just asking for an opt. 202 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: Out the parents aren't asking to change with the subject matter. 203 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Is in the schools that's being. 204 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: Covered they just want to be able to remove their 205 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: children and that subject matter is being. 206 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: INTRODUCED i would take it one step. 207 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: Further one of the QUESTIONS i think it Was Kagan 208 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: jackson And sodomayor, asked, was you, know, well where's the 209 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: line here so parents could just opt out of? 210 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: Anything so, Too mayor went as far as to. 211 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: Say, well what if parents want to opt out of 212 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: Interracial well that's, ridiculous you, know comparing the idea of 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: gender identity or gender ideology to interrational marriage is, nonsense 214 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: because gender ideology is a, lie you. Know and my 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: question back to, Them, lisa would be, this when what 216 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: can schools lie to kids? 217 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: About where's the. 218 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: Line between teaching the truth and teaching a? Lie and, 219 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: then you, know because there, again gender ideology is pseudoscientific. 220 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: Nonsense there are men and there are. Women there's no 221 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: such thing as. 222 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Transgender the idea that you could change your biological, sex 223 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: it's just. Crazy and the fact that we're introducing this 224 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: to children is really child, abuse in my. 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Younger guaranteed or your money. Back go 255 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: to genucell dot com Slash. Lisa that's genucell dot com Slash. 256 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Lisa every order includes free shipping and Use lisa at 257 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: checkout for an extra. Discount genucell dot com Slash. Lisa 258 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: that's genucell dot com Slash. Lisa, well this is really 259 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: just part of this broader parental rights conversation we've been. 260 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: HAVING i, mean we even saw this play out in 261 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: The virginia gubernatorial race Between terry mccaulliffe And Glenn. Yanka 262 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: And terry mcculliffe was basically, like parents, shouldn't you, know 263 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in control of what their kids are being 264 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: taught in the school. SYSTEM i, mean this kind of 265 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: like started more DURING covid and it in terms of 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: the parents really just saying what their kids were being. 267 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: Taught, yeah parents were sitting at their kitchen table with their, kids, 268 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: right moms and, dads, everybody the world Stops march, thirteenth twenty. 269 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: Twenty all the kids go on to zoom and the 270 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: parents are sitting there watching what their children are learning 271 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: and seeing where they have to efficiencies in, reading, writing and. 272 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: Math but then also this subject, matter very divisive subject subject, 273 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: matter Anti, american Anti, god anti. Family parents started to 274 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: get really concerned and. Upset and you're, Right Governor youngkin 275 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: And terry. Mccauliffe you, know When Governor youngkin, won he 276 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: was standing up and, saying, NO i do believe that 277 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: parents should have a say in what their kids. LEARN 278 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: i think the conversation becomes broader and we start talking 279 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: about school. Choice just As jackson said in her in 280 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: The Oral, arguments, well you, know if a parent doesn't 281 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: like what's being, taught well then they should just. 282 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: Homeschool they should just you, know not send their kids 283 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: to that. 284 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: School well it's easy for her to, say first of, 285 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: all she sent her kids to private. 286 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: School that's. 287 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Interesting not of a parent can afford private, school and 288 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: there isn't school choice In. Maryland BUT i think this 289 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: will play into a larger conversation about school. 290 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: Choice President trump. 291 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: Has been very, clear even in conversations with, me about 292 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: the fact that he thinks every parent should have the, 293 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: fund has the fundamental right to direct the education of their. 294 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: Kids he wants to give us much opportunity at school 295 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: choices possible to. Families SO i think this will be 296 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: part of a larger conversation of, parents you, know being 297 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: able to select schools at one unfold the full academic 298 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: potential of their, child but two reflect the values that 299 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: they hold dear in their. 300 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: HOME i think it's also this broader effort to try 301 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: to like tear families, apart you, know because if you 302 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: look at states Like, california where you, know the school 303 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have to notify the parents if the student changes 304 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: their name or their. Gender you, know if you Tell 305 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: paulina so you can Be Paul and by the, way 306 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: like you don't have to go home and tell your. 307 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: PARENTS i mean that creates a division in the. FAMILY 308 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: i mean you're really pitting like the state and the 309 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: child versus the parent and the family. 310 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: Structure, yeah we used to call people that told kids 311 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: to keep secrets from their parents'. Predators the idea that 312 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: you have government schools that are encouraging children to keep 313 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: secrets from their, families to lie to their, parents to 314 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: lead a double life in, school using a name in 315 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: pronouns at school that are different than the name and 316 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: pronouns used by the school with. 317 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: The, parents and is. 318 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: Crazy these are government, Schools they are funded by taxpayer. 319 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: Dollars teachers are government, employees and so the idea this 320 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: is happening is. 321 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: Nuts you're. 322 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: Right In california and other, states there has been a 323 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: push to drive a wedge between the parent and the. 324 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: Child and you, KNOW i, MEAN i look At Randy, 325 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: weingarten head of the teachers'. Union she's not having her own, 326 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: kids they want, ours and they want to indoctrinate them 327 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: in a very socialist way of, government in a way 328 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: of looking at the. WORLD i, MEAN i DARE i say, communists? 329 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: Right and so there are things that are happening across 330 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: public schools In america right now that parents should be 331 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: really concerned. About there's this push for something called community 332 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: schools where they want to put school based health clinics 333 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: into the. Schools, well when you have agents of informed, 334 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: consent that's when a child can give consent to medications 335 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: and other things on their own at the age of twelve, 336 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: sometimes and then you have school based health clinics with you, 337 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: know public private, partnerships people Like Planned parenthood coming into 338 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: your school and being able to have interactions with your 339 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: students without your knowledge and. Consent it gets really. Concerning 340 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: so parents need to be paying. Attention the interesting thing 341 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: when you look At, california for, example is that our 342 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: good Friend Governor newsom or As President trump likes to call, 343 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: Him Governor. Newscomb you, know if you look at what 344 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: happened In, california there was a similar bill that passed 345 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: The senate in The house In california to this one 346 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: In colorado That i'm talking about currently that's going to 347 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: be is being actually heard in committee of The, SENATE 348 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: i believe. Tomorrow But Governor newsom didn't sign that bill into. 349 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: Law he has his eyes on the presidency and SO 350 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: i think he knows this issue overwhelmingly is something that 351 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: people In america don't. Support people don't want girls and boys, 352 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: sports they don't want you, know secrets being kept from 353 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: them by government. Schools and So Governor newsom did not 354 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: sign that. 355 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: Bill he vetoed. It it'll be interesting to see What 356 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: Governor polus. Does he, ALSO i think. 357 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: Has political aspirations to make it to The White house 358 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: and so signing these types of bills that are really on. 359 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: Popular so you have very progressive you Know house and 360 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: said it In colorado pushing this, bill just like In. 361 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: California and it seems like The Democratic party is going 362 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: to split because really elected officials, know but you, know 363 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: governed at the governor, level that this stuff is just 364 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: not things that Broadly americans. 365 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: Support well that's interesting, too because when you dig into 366 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: some of these other books that have been the point 367 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: of discussion with, you With moms Of liberty and just 368 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: elsewhere in the, country Like Gender, queer which contains explicit 369 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: illustrations of oral sex and, masturbation or you, know Law 370 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: envoy descriptions of sex between men and, children which is 371 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: disgusting obviously, pedophila. Pedophilia you know these books that were you, 372 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: know probably shouldn't be written period in my, opinion but 373 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: definitely should. Not kids shouldn't have access to or you, 374 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: know even young you know in the school system should 375 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: not have access. TO i, mean it seems like the 376 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: point is to strip a child of his or her, 377 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: innocence because is if you're that young and you get 378 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: access to a book like, THIS i, mean how are 379 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: you not depriving the trial of their. 380 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Innocence you're, right they're robbing kids of their, childhood and 381 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: they're really stealing the joys of sex from kids from 382 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: like as a young adolescence, too. RIGHT i, mean you 383 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: remember in high school your first kiss and all of 384 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: those things that we're exciting and new and you, know 385 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: you discover it and all of a, sudden now at you, 386 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: know at eleven years, old this book is being shoved 387 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: in front of you without this graphic sexual, content and 388 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: they're you, know rampant. Pornography obviously online that you, know 389 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: children oftentimes have access to, unfortunately AND i know there 390 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: are a lot of bills to try to address. THAT 391 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: i think you're right, ultimately you, know one of the 392 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: goals of communism is to destabilize the, family and by 393 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: destabilizing the youth and making them h you, know reject 394 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: the tradition of, home reject, religion, uh you, know really 395 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: blurring the line between parent and. Child we didn't talk 396 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: about THE i mean parent child and. A we didn't 397 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: talk about THE q part OF, lgbtq but we. 398 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: Can for a. Second that's queer. Theory there's no limiting. 399 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: Principles why that flag constantly changes and so AGAIN i 400 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: talked about that minor attracted person, that you, know just 401 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: destigmatizing anything that isn't normal and. Traditional that's the goal 402 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: of queer. Theory, again AS i, said there's no limiting principle. 403 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: There so the worst of what you can, imagine people 404 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: Like Michelle bluco and, Others Judith, butler you, know do 405 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: a little studying about queer. THEORY i did a podcast 406 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: once with a, Gentleman Derek, jensen who talked about the 407 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: depths of queer, theory which is pretty, dark and so 408 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: there's a real undercurrent here of something THAT i think 409 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people would define as, evil but without 410 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: a doubt it's completely. Inappropriated, YEAH i, mean let kids be. 411 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: Kids you, know we need to protect that time in their. 412 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 3: Lives and who's going to protect it more than a parent, 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: Honestly so we have to rise. 414 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: Up, well it's like kind. 415 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Of funny because like the point is to keep it so, 416 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: confusing where like they keep adding like plus, minus you, 417 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: know all these different things and change the flag, constantly you, 418 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: know the Gay pride, flag so it's like no one 419 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: even knows what the hell any of it. Means and 420 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: then if you like question, it well you're a bigot for. 421 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Queeno like, right it's kind of, like, yeah this chaotic 422 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: like crazy thing to make it so confusing and, chaotic 423 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: and then to question something which is so ridiculous on its, 424 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: face and then you, know smack a label on you 425 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: for questioning that something on its face that's just complicated 426 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: and you, know chaotic to begin. 427 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: With, Yeah Babylon be put out a you, know a 428 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: meme andut it SAID lgbtq PLUS ms thirteen and it 429 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: really kind of drives home the point that the issue 430 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: is never the. 431 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: Issue the issue is always the. 432 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: Revolution so that's why you see queers For palestine right 433 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: where you, know a gay person In palestine wouldn't make 434 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: it very long openly, gay but somehow In, america you, 435 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: know those two things, converge and so. 436 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: The issue is never the. Issue the issue is always. 437 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: Revolution it's whatever is useful to Disrupt western. Civilization and 438 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: you know it's going to take, again AS i, said 439 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: just people standing up and saying, no we Love, America 440 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: we're proud of our. COUNTRY i think it's really interesting 441 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: that you have this really massive attack On western civilization 442 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: In america as we know, it while you have this amazing, president, 443 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: Right President, trump who's bringing Back Columbus, day and we're 444 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 3: on the cusp of celebrating the two hundred and fiftieth 445 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: anniversary of our nation Of. America and so it's going 446 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: to be a very interesting few. Years President trump is working. 447 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 3: HARD i think for anyone who voted for, him we 448 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: need to remember that we need to help him keep 449 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: the will of the. 450 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: People you, know they may take some sacrifice in the short. 451 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 3: Term there's no doubt that some of the decisions that 452 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: he's making are going to have an impact on our 453 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 3: lives and our ability to do certain. Things you, know the, 454 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: tariffs there's a lot of uncertainty around, that but, ultimately you, 455 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: know we need to. 456 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: Sacrifice for our. 457 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 3: Country we need to create a brighter future for our, 458 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: children AND i Think american parents are here for the long. 459 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: Haul we've got to take a quick commercial. Break more 460 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: With Tiffany. Justice, also if you like this, episode please 461 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: share it with your friends or. Family shared on social 462 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: media as. Well any love is. Appreciated what do you 463 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: think the broader implications are of This mamude Versus taylor? 464 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: Case if the parents are, victorious, WELL i think it's going. 465 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: To be a real sign to school districts across the 466 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: country that parents do have parental. 467 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: Rights in, fact there's been some question to. 468 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: That we also have seen some really crazy judicial decisions 469 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: being made in lower, courts and, so you, KNOW i 470 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: think that there's something called The Family rights And Responsibilities. 471 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: Acts that line Is Defending freedom put out that said 472 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: to federal courts at least that they need to use strict. 473 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: Scrutiny they need to apply strict scrutiny when looking at 474 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: anything having to do with parental. Rights that means that 475 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: the burden is on the, state not the, parents to 476 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: prove that they have the right to direct the upbring 477 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 3: of their. Child i've said, before it's a fundamental. Right 478 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: that means that the government doesn't give it to. You 479 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: it's given to you By god. Right so the idea 480 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: that the government takes it away indy capacity is. Ridiculous, 481 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: now you don't have the right to abuse your. Child 482 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 3: so something like gender or firming, care which we know 483 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: is a horrible puberty blockers cross. 484 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: Sex foremones can't do. 485 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 3: That but you know that that should be the very 486 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: worst of what's happening to a, child to have a 487 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: parent harm them in that. 488 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: Way and SO i think that the implications will be. 489 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: Broad it will send a message to school districts that 490 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: they need to respect parential, rights and that is a huge. 491 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: Win and, then you, Know, LISA i think we built from. 492 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: THERE i think we do push to continue to remove 493 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: certain content from, classrooms AND i think you're going to 494 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: see other cases make it to The Supreme court around 495 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: the issue of parential rights in a lot of different. 496 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Ways who's winning this fight right? 497 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: Now moms and, Dads my money's on moms and. 498 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: Dads nobody's going to fight for anything like a parent 499 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: is going to fight for their. Kids we have a 500 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: president who believes in, parents has backed us one hundred. 501 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: Percent we have The house and The. 502 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: Senate it would be nice to see them taking some 503 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: action to codify some of these executive orders into, law 504 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: and you have parents standing up all over the. Country 505 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: i'll bring Up colorado. Again people are standing up and 506 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: fighting In. Colorado you have a very Progressive house And 507 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: senate In, colorado but you have a governor who knows 508 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: MAYBE i should sign that bill right that may not 509 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: be good for my political. Future so you, know people 510 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: just need to stand up and band. Together because if 511 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: you're thinking that it's inappropriate for a child to read, 512 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: about you, know sex toys in a, classroom that you're 513 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: probably not the only. 514 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: One. 515 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: YEAH i mean it is kind of funny because DURING, 516 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: covid it was like wear your mask and people are like, 517 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: okay and they're like social distance and people are like, 518 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: okay and then they like get the. Vaccine they're. Okay 519 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: but then once they saw what their kids were being, 520 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: taught they're, like, oh, heck, no you know that's, right you, 521 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: know like they took the beating until it reached their 522 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: kids and then you, know and then that's when people 523 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: started or you, know standing up for kids getting back 524 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: to school and things like. That So Tiffty, justice you're. 525 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: Great appreciate the work that you're, doing and really appreciate 526 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: you making the time to come on the. 527 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: Show thank you for having, Me. Lisa that Was Tiffany. 528 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: Justice appreciate her for making the time to come on the. 529 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: Show appreciate you guys at home for. Listening Read tuesday And, 530 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: thursday but you can listen throughout the week until next. 531 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Time