1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our two of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show gets going right now, and we are 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: joined by our friend Andy McCarthy of National Review. He's 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: a Fox News contributor, former federal prosecutor at the Southern 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: District of New York. It's been over twenty years there. Also, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: he wrote a book, Ball of Collusion, The Plot to 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: rig an election and destroy of Presidency, obviously about Donald Trump. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Andy, you might need to write Ball 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: of Collusion Part two. There's a lot of stuff going 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: on right now between Twitter, FBI collusion, the efforts to 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: get Donald Trump legally. Can we start with that. I 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: know you're on Fox yesterday right as the ex I 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: can see that I was doing the show right as 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: the four charges came down. It seems to be something 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: of a consensus that the DOJ. Well, actually, no, I 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: don't want to get ahead of anything. Tell everybody what 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you think about the four charges and what happens now. Well, 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: I think the charges are really weak. Buck. You know 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: the headline I guess that I would highlight to encapsulate 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: this is they want to recommend that Trump violated a 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: law that prevents people or makes it a crime to 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: incite an insurrection or to assist an insurrection, orate in 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: the bed, etc. And they say they've developed evidence of that, 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: and you know, first of all, they have not one. 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: Despite what they promised they were going to be able 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: to prove, they have not proved there was an actionable 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: criminal nexus between Donald Trump and the violence out of 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: the Capitol riot. They in two years of looking at 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: this closely, with a lot more resources to investigate it 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: than the Compressional Committee has, they haven't indicted a single 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: person for the federal crime of insurrection. So one wonders, 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: how could Trump have aided and abetted something the Justice 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Department has looked at and hasn't charged anybody with. But 35 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, the other thing is they've indicted a number 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: of cases involving violence, like assaults on police officers and 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: damage to the capital. There was a seditious conspiracy case 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: in which some people got convicted. In none of those 39 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: cases has the Justice Department suggested or cited Donald Trump 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: for being an unindicted co conspirator. And in fact, the 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Justice Department took the position that Trump was not the 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: driving force of this. He was basically the pretext that 43 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: people who were looking to commit violence any way used 44 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: as a rationalization for doing it. And the Justice Department 45 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: has aggressively thought efforts to buy these defendants ship blame 46 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: to Trump. So it's pretty clear that they've decided that 47 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: just doesn't take Trump out of the woods. They've decided 48 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't involved in the violence. That doesn't mean that 49 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: he may not have committed the crime of obstructing Congress, 50 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: but that's it's a harder proof if you don't have 51 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: the violence. So my only point is how how is 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the committee referring a crime to the Justice Department, the 53 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: theory of which has to be that Trump is like 54 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: the driving force of the violence, when it's become very 55 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: clear over two years that that's the opposite of what 56 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: the Justice Department things happened. So andy, if you have 57 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: to pick, well, first, let me let me just get 58 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: your take on do you think there is And I 59 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: know I always say no one can break the future, 60 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: So I'm asking what you think the probability is. Is 61 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: it likely or not likely that Trump will be indicted 62 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: in the next year, And if he is likely, where 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: would it come from I mean, or even if it's not, 64 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: what's the most likely avenue? Is it from the Special 65 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Council Jack Smith probe? Yeah? I think the most likely 66 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: scenario book is the Moral Ago Documents case. I think 67 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: they have, you know, unlike the January sixth case, which 68 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: is which is complicated and weak when you look at 69 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: it closely. I think they think, and with good reason, 70 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: that the documents case is much stronger and that they 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: could probably indict that. Now if they chose to do, 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: do you think it's going to happen? I think it 73 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: depends on whether Trump is a viable candidate or not. 74 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I know that, you know, the Biden administration and the 75 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: Justice Department gave this case to Jack Smith as a 76 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Special Council to try to create some distance between DJ 77 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: and the and Biden and the investigation. But I don't 78 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: think people are going to be convinced by that because 79 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: the Special Cancil still answers to the Justice Department and 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: prosecute prosecutorial power in the United States's executive power. So 81 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: if Jack Smith indicts anyone, it's going to be through 82 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: the power of President Biden. So I don't think they 83 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: can get out of that Box. I think it's politics, 84 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: and they like the idea of running against Trump, or 85 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: at least having Trump in the GOP primaries and in 86 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: the field, you know, wreaking havoc and causing divisiveness in 87 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: the Republican base. So I don't think if they indict 88 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: him will make it very difficult for him to run. 89 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: So I think as long as he's a viable candidate, 90 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: they probably won't bring any charges. But I think the 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: second he's not a viable candidate, thought, Wow, the left 92 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: really wants him charge. I mean, this is what I 93 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: was thinking yesterday. I was trying to wargame this out 94 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think I align with you on 95 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: this one in that they also I think they may 96 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: not bring the charge also because they would recognize did 97 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: that would I believe, rally the party around Trump in 98 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: a pretty substantial way? Now would they try to get 99 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: jail time for you? Can you really rally against around 100 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: a guy if he's actually going to prison? And you know, 101 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: there's all these other but but I think that I 102 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: wonder if they would hold back because they there's that 103 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: uncertainty factor and also what you know, what the blowback 104 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: would be. But to your point, if in fact, let's 105 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: say Trump doesn't become the nominee, then maybe it's actually 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: even more likely at that point he would get indicted, 107 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: just because the left wing base has been promised this 108 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: in their minds for six years. Yeah, that's what I think. 109 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: I mean. I just think that you can't take the 110 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: political component out of this, because let's if you could 111 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: take Trump out of it, which your course is like, 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: it's too mind bending to take Trump out. He's such 113 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: a lightning run. But if you could take Trump out 114 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: of this, every case that a prosecutor indices is a 115 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: twofold question. One is do you have enough evidence of 116 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: a crime to convict? If you do, you move to 117 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: the second question, which is is the persecution in the 118 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: public interest? And what I mean by that, for example, 119 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: is you know, if five people are sitting in a 120 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: circle and they pass around a marijuana cigarette one to 121 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the next and the next. In theory and under the law, 122 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: every single time they pass that it's a felony violation 123 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: of the federal narcotics laws, from which you could be 124 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: sentenced to twenty years in prison. Right, So you would 125 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: look at that, you'd say, I have enough evidence, but 126 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: I would be insane to bring that case because no 127 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: one would bring that case. Right, So in every case, 128 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you look at do I have enough evidence and is 129 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: it in the public interest to go forward with this? 130 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: And with Trump, I think it's unavoidable that you have 131 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: to say, even if you think you have enough evidence, 132 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be such a divisive thing in the 133 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: country to indict a former president of the United States 134 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: who's actually a current announced candidate for twenty twenty four. 135 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: The prosecutor's got to be sensitive to the idea that 136 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: there's going to be a narrative that the indictment is 137 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: being driven by politics rather than evidence. And the backdrop 138 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: for role of this is that we've had law enforcement 139 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: intrusion now in the twenty sixteen presidential cycle and in 140 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four presidential cycle. Do we really want to, 141 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, watch this movie again, because I don't think 142 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: anybody does, right. We had it in twenty sixteen, in 143 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and now it would be again in twenty 144 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: twenty four. You know, Could we have one presidential election 145 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: that is not like determined one way or the other 146 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: by the deep state and its intrusions, That would be 147 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: a good thing. Andy Also we were just talking about 148 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: and we're speaking to Any McCarthy, he's a Fox to 149 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: his contributor or National Review, go read nation review dot 150 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: com for his latest andy, the title forty two. The stay. 151 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: My understanding and you know I'm catching this in real 152 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: time because it's obviously still evolving, is that there's a stay, 153 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: but we don't know the full explanation behind the stay 154 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: for the ending of title forty two, and it's an 155 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: administrative stay. But this thing has got to go pretty soon, right, 156 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what what? What do you see happening here? Well, 157 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: it's complicated book because there's two different cases involved. Um, 158 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: but you know, the bottom line for today is that 159 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts has told the Biden administration that they 160 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: have to respond to the States which have made this 161 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: emergency application to freeze everything in place until they finished 162 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: litigating one of the cases that's that's pending. And Roberts 163 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: has told the Biden administration they have till five o'clock 164 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: Eastern time today to respond. And in a nutshell, what's 165 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: going on is there's two different cases, one of which 166 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: arises out of Louisiana where the States are saying that 167 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: when Biden took away Title forty two, or when they 168 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: wanted to take away Title forty two, they didn't comply 169 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: with the Administrative Administrative Administrative Procedure Act. Yeah, sure, right. 170 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: So while that's being litigated, this other case came up 171 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: in Washington. And what happened is the Biden administration and 172 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: the pliniffs who are in that case, they are, you know, 173 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: people who want to come into the country illegally, They 174 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: put their little heads together and basically, um, you know, 175 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the Biden administration admitted that it was in violation of 176 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: the law and that you know, Title forty two couldn't 177 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: be sustained. And the judge in Washington then just said 178 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: no more Title forty two. And what the what the 179 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: das or the state attorneys general of these nineteen states 180 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: is saying is look what they did here. They colluded 181 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: in this litigation effectively to undermine forty two, when in 182 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: the other litigation there's a stay in place where they've 183 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: basically been told to hold Title forty two in place 184 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: until the case could be litigated. So it's like a 185 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: collusive lawsuit which allows them to get rid of Title 186 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: forty two without complying with the administrative Procedures Act and 187 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: the Notice and Comment and all that. So that's the 188 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, in a nutshell, that's what it is. And 189 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: I think the thing is the Supreme Court doesn't like 190 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: these collusive lawsuits because it's a really you know, sneaky, 191 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of insidious thing to do. At the same time, 192 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: the Court can't protect the border. You know, even if 193 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: the Court says this is ridiculous, you know, you have 194 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: to comply with the Administrative Procedures Act. But it's also 195 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: true that, like as far as Title forty two is concerned, 196 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: we no longer have a COVID emergency. And the fact 197 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: of the matter is it's the political branch's responsibility to 198 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: protect the border, and the court can't make them do it. Right, Basically, 199 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: if they decided, let's just say, theoretically, if the Biden administration, 200 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: and I think they're pretty close to this, they just said, yeah, 201 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: we're just not enforcing border laws anymore. We had that 202 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Arizona immigration case and the court ruled against the Obama 203 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: administration on one aspect of it, and the administration's response 204 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: basically was, yeah, who's going to make us And yeah, 205 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: this goes back to the framers, right, The idea was 206 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: the courts with the least dangerous branch because they only 207 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: had judgment, right, they don't have the purse and they 208 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: don't have the sword. And this is the reality of it. 209 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: And as far as the court is concerned, you don't 210 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: want to issue an order that isn't going to be enforced, right, 211 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: because that undermines the rule of law and the legitimacy 212 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: of the court. Yeah. So, you know, I think what 213 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: happens in a lot of these cases, book, is that 214 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: if the court knows that there's a good chance the 215 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: executive is not going to carry out its orders anyway, 216 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: why does it want to get involved in that? You know. 217 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: So do you think Title forty two does go away soon? 218 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I think eventually, whether it's next Wednesday or within the 219 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: next year. You know, Look, we're living a lie here, right. 220 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: There is no COVID emergency, right, And what's going on 221 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: here is the President and the Congress have the authority 222 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: and the responsibility to protect the border and the law 223 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: of the United States. I know that this is like 224 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: a trivial thing, but I thought people might want to 225 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: hear this. The law of the United States explicitly says 226 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: if you come into the United States illegally, you shall 227 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: be detained until they work out, you know, whether you 228 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: have a viable claim to stay here for some legal 229 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: reason or not. So they're just ignoring the law. And 230 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: what they say is there's too many people. We can't 231 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: detain everyone. And I think most people think, well, if 232 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: you only have thirty thousand detention spaces, you can't let 233 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: two point two million people into the country so close 234 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: the border once you fill up the detention and instead, 235 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: what they say is, we can't detain everybody who wants 236 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: to come, so therefore we're not going to follow the 237 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: law of the United States and we're basically going to 238 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: detain nobody, which is what they're doing right now. I 239 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: mean they're it's like catch and release, super fast processing, 240 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: letting people out of the streets of El Paso and 241 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: McAllen and wherever. Right. It's a mess. It's a mess. Andy, 242 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the excellent legal analysis as always, 243 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas, sir, good to talk to you, Maryas 244 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: my friends, indulge me for a minute while I tell 245 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: you about a young woman by the name of Carly. 246 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: She visited a preborn pregnancy clinic with her boyfriend as 247 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: they were going back and forth on whether to seek 248 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: an abortion or to bring their baby into this world. 249 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: Preborn Clinics provide free ultrasounds to pregnant women as a 250 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: way for them to understand the preciousness of life and 251 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: establish that bond between mother and child. 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It's amazing that Avatar two, 269 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: which is about blue space aliens who who are on 270 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: some planet far far away, and you know the whole 271 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: thing they're they're blue and they're kind of a hybrid 272 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: between looks sort of like a lion and a person. 273 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: I guess you could say is sort of the best 274 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: way to script. And they're blue. Just to be clear, 275 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: it's being called out for cultural appropriation and a white 276 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: savior complex. These are the These are the terms that 277 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: are being used. A movie critic got this started, and 278 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: now there are others who are piling on. They are 279 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: saying that Avatar Too, which is fortunately not doing very well. 280 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: So that restores my faith in humanity because it is 281 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: a Avatar one was a shockingly poorly written, silly derivative movie. 282 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: It had some cool technology, but once you've been exposed 283 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: to that three D technology, the movie doesn't stand up 284 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: at all. So unless you have like Avatar technology at home, 285 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to watch this thing. Avatar Too, which 286 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing is either dances with wolves or fern Gully, 287 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: depending on who you ask. That's where the script comes from, 288 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: the idea comes from, but they're calling it out because 289 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: to the woke, the playing of a Blue Space alien 290 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: with some historical themes that approximate the struggle of Native 291 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: Americans in America is cultural appropriation by actors who are 292 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: white in most of the cases, not all the cases. 293 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: So white actors can't play blue Space aliens in a 294 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: cartoon that are borrowing from Native American history. 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That's get refunds dot Com. No risk, high reward, 314 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Get refunds dot Com. Flee. Travis and Buck Sexton on 315 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: the front lines of truth. The hight of the holiday season, 316 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: got Christmas coming up, last minute Christmas shopping going to 317 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: be under way here. I do think it has taken 318 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the stress out of us. I was 319 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: thinking about this yesterday when I remember growing up and 320 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: my mother was so amazing. She always, you know us 321 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: the toys that we the one toy you really wanted 322 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: from Santas to go to a place called Toy Park. 323 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Toy Park if you were really feeling like you wanted 324 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: to be at the high temple of toy consumerism, you 325 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: could go to Fao Schwartz, which I remember that there 326 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: was a song Welcome to our world of toys. When 327 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: you'd go in there, I think that it's in the 328 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: second home alone. It's definitely in big with Tom Hanks. 329 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: But you had to go and get these things, get 330 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: these toys. I will say, at least now for the 331 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: parents out there and for anybody who's getting gifts for 332 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: family members or friends, it has gotten so much easier. 333 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: Right you can go online have it sent right to you, 334 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: and takes a lot of that waiting in the long 335 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: line and the stress. And because I remember last minute 336 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping and everyone rushing into the stores in New 337 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: York City and long lines, and I just take a moment, 338 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: you don't be We often focus on what is more 339 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: challenging in life and what has been made more difficult, 340 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: but or what is getting more difficult. One thing is 341 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: getting a lot easier. You don't have parents who are 342 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: getting into fisticuffs over Tickle me Elmo dolls. Remember that 343 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: there would be like a really popular toy and it 344 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: would get bought up, and then they would start going 345 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: for really high prices and people would be waiting in 346 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: these lines and get into fights over this stuff. So 347 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: now you know the downside is we all can enjoy 348 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: the supply chain issues and the shortages that just magically 349 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: have appeared under the Biden administration with no explanation. Don't worry, 350 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: may Or. Pete's on it, Pete Buddha, judge. He's gonna 351 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: fix it at any moment now, He's got his best 352 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: people on it. But no, seriously, at least you can 353 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: sit at home and pretty much order whatever you want 354 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: to order in terms of anything. I mean, if you 355 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: want to order a Sherman tank that's been decommissioned, I 356 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: think you can do that on Amazon. I mean, you've 357 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: got some pretty some pretty crazy stuff out there. And 358 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: also I usually around this time because I started doing 359 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: radio in twenty twelve, so it's been a decade, and 360 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: I started at the Blaze and it was really an 361 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: online stream on the Blaze dot com and Glenn Beck's network. 362 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: So I always am very grateful too, and wished Glenn 363 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: a merry Christmas and his family and his staff because 364 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Glenn gave me my start. And people of people of 365 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: honor appreciate those who helped them and they never forget 366 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: who helped them. So but I started out at the Blaze, 367 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, Russia is obviously at the very 368 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: top of that list, because Rush let me fill in 369 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: for him many times over the years, starting in twenty 370 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: fourteen up until I became syndicated myself a few years 371 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: after that. So I did radio. Started radio a decade ago. 372 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: And one of the stories that I always told people, 373 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: because I was just talking about about parents a moment ago, 374 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: is that I did not start out because my birthday 375 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: is also on December twenty eighth, So thrown it all 376 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: out there right now. I did not start out at 377 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: all in life as somebody who you think would would 378 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: have a career in media particularly wouldn't have a career 379 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: in radio. But I had a speech impediment which was 380 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: very complicated for my gosh, I must have it. I 381 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: was first second grade was when I was really aware 382 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: of it. Kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and people always 383 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: ask it was, and I believe it's called an annunciation disorder. 384 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: I had to see a speech therapist for a couple 385 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: of years, and my parents never gave up on me. 386 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: They never gave up on me. I would go and 387 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: introduce myself to my classmates and to you know, kids 388 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: in the playground. You know, you show up and you 389 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: just kick a ball around or something in the playground 390 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: and they someone say, you know, what's your name? And 391 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I would say, and this is true, And my mom 392 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: is probably laughing as you hear this. I would say, well, 393 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: not laughing, but you know, sort of smiling about what 394 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: I had to overcome. But I would tell people my 395 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: name was But now you can imagine when you're a 396 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: first and second grader and you're trying to pronounce your 397 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: own name and you tell you tell a little kid, 398 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: your peer that your name is. But they tend to 399 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: think that is very funny. I did not think it 400 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: was very funny. I obviously thought it was mortifying. Oh 401 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that word meant then, but I was. 402 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: It was not a fun situation or circumstance for me. 403 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: And I also because of the lack of confidence from 404 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: being a kid who couldn't pronounce his own name, which 405 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: was the situation that I was in. My middle name 406 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: is Buckman, which is where it comes from. But Buckman 407 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: is no easier than buck So, you know, calling myself 408 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: but Man was not going to be better than calling myself. 409 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: But really, so that was the that was the challenge 410 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: that I faced, so I went into speech therapy, but 411 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: also was falling far behind in class, to the point 412 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: where they thought I was going to have to be 413 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: in a special school for learning disabilities. But it wasn't 414 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: even really a learning disability. It was more of a 415 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: behavioral disability brought on by my speech impediment, which was 416 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: obviously a major challenge. So because I couldn't speak like 417 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: the other kids, and this wasn't just my name, obviously 418 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: a lot of words to consonants, I would just I 419 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: would think I was saying it the right way, but 420 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't and it didn't really register with me, So 421 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: they were going to have to pull me out of that. Well, 422 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: at one point there was a consideration of pulling me 423 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: out of school to send me to a special school, 424 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: and my mom and dad never lost faith. They kept 425 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: pushing and kept encouraging me. And we had a woman 426 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: her name was she has since passed away. Her name 427 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: was missus Newfield, and she gave me extra tutoring, extra 428 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: tutoring after class, and I went to speech therapy, and 429 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: by the time I was in the fourth or fifth grade, 430 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I had advanced so far beyond my classmates in the 431 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: Catholic schooling to New York that they started actually and 432 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: some of the courses giving me extra work and gave 433 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: me a slightly different curriculum, and I graduated because you 434 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: have to apply to high school in New York top 435 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: of my of my grammar school class, but actually got 436 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: a four year scholarship which was at the time one 437 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars scholarship to go to high school at 438 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: Regis in New York City, which is also where fouch 439 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: you went. So I turned things around. And then later on, 440 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, you all know, I went to CIA and 441 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: and came out wasn't looking to do media at all, 442 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: was really just looking to expand my skill set, maybe 443 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: get into the private sector. Wasn't really sure and Glenn 444 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: and the Blaze came along and gave me, gave me 445 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity that I wasn't even looking for, but I 446 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: did recognize it as a huge opportunity when it came along, 447 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: So you know, always appreciate that from Glen and from 448 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: Chris Bouff, who also found me early on then and 449 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: is still doing a lot of good work with a 450 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: lot of very good people in the media space. So yeah, 451 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: so the kid who couldn't pronounce his name and was 452 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: going to be pulled out of school and was getting 453 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: made fun of constantly for not being able to pronounce 454 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: his name. Later on ended up being the only person 455 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: to ever guest host for Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity 456 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: and Rush Limbaugh on radio. I guess hosted all three 457 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: of those shows over the years, and was guest hosting 458 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: for Rush the Greatest of All Time within three years 459 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: of my radio career starting. So this is all the 460 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: way of saying to the parents out there, because I 461 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: know we're going into the holiday break and a lot 462 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: of parents have had a really still dealing with a 463 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: very tough time from the COVID lockdowns and what that did, 464 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: and the learning loss and the psychological and social direst 465 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: that that put kids under. There is no replacement for 466 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: nor is there any ceiling to the benefits of parents 467 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: who never give up on the kids, never give up 468 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: on their ability, their dreams, their willingness to stick it out. 469 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: If you'll stick it out, That's that's what I've seen, 470 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: That's what I saw in my own life. But I'm 471 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: sure you see circumstances to parents. If parents have your back, 472 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: you will get through and you can accomplish anything that 473 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: is really the case. And that includes also anybody who's 474 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you're a grandparent who's a guardian for somebody, 475 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: or if you're raising someone, if they know that you've 476 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: got them no matter what, that they've got your back, 477 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: no matter what. You can even you can go from 478 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: being a kid who can't pronounce his name and all 479 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: the kids are making fun of to sitting here doing 480 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: radio on the biggest radio platform in the United States 481 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: of America. So Merry Christmas, everybody. You got a big 482 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: decision to make today. 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Learn laugh and join us on the 509 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: weekend on our Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, 510 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: fight it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 511 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Got some lines lit up? Give us a 512 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: call eight hundred two two eight eight two. Want to 513 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: hear from you. I've only got about an hour left 514 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: with all of you across the country. Then Clay comes 515 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: back from his first family vacation tomorrow. He'll be in tomorrow, 516 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, and then we have guest host who 517 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: will be in starting after that, including Jason Lewis and 518 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Todd Herman. So yep, we got people to people to 519 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: be taken over doing a great job here on the 520 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: show for all of you. And we have Ransom in Columbus, Ohio. 521 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: Wanted to call in. What's up Ransom? Cool name? Yeah, 522 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: but I just very encouraged by your story you're just sharing. 523 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: I too had something to overcome too. I had a 524 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: speech where a problem with stuttering when I was young, 525 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and I had also had to be taught how to 526 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: read because I transposed letters and numbers back and forth. 527 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: So they thought that I would be a lost cause too, 528 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: But like you, I've overcome and I had four near 529 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: nor near death experiences. I became a feature of speaker 530 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: for a Christian group where I got to be on 531 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: radio and TV, and became a flight attendant with t 532 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: WA and was able to smuggle Bibles into the Soviet 533 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: unions and back in nineteen eighties. So I've done a 534 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: couple of things too. So anyone it's got these issues, uh, 535 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: you can be great also just kind of hang in 536 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: there and keep going. Thank you so much, Ransom, Merry 537 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: Christmas to you, and so glad that you also fought 538 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: the good fight to get past your your issues and 539 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: uh and obviously have led a very interesting life. You know, 540 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: I'll just say this. I think that people who in 541 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: my experience, people who overcome real personal adversity, there is 542 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: a there is a lifelong humility that comes from that, 543 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: an ability to understand other people and their challenges at 544 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: a at a very it's at a very human level. Um. 545 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: You know, you recognize when you've been through, especially at 546 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: a young age, when you've been through experience that was humiliating, 547 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: but then you overcame it, you get beyond it. One. 548 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: I think you want to help other people in a 549 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: similar way. You want to sort of be the hand 550 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: that reaches down to pull people up to overcome what 551 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: they can as well. But you just you also there's 552 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: I think there's a humility that comes from it. I 553 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: mean maybe some people would argue that, you know, if 554 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: you're if you're picked on and you're bullied as a kid, 555 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, that can have some nasty long term ramifications. 556 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Some people then go on to pick on or bully 557 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: people later on. But you know, I think if you 558 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: stand up to the bully, if you overcome the bully, 559 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you you come into that category as well of both 560 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: personal growth and understanding. Like people who have been bullied 561 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: and overcome bullying hate bullies really won't allow any bullying 562 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: to go on around them. And I think people that 563 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: have been through whether it's speech, health, learning disabilities and issues, 564 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: gone through it, gotten beyond it and achieved purpose and 565 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: success and happiness in life have a have a connection 566 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: to an understanding of people going through those same struggles 567 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: that also maintains this bond of humility that we're all 568 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: we're all trying to work on who we are and 569 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: be better versions of who we are all the time. 570 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna switch gears to immigration here for 571 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: a second. Chris is down in El Paso, Texas. Chris, 572 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: what are you seeing? Oh Buck Mega didos first of all, 573 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas to you and Carry, thank you. I 574 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: think guy Carry came into your life because if you 575 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: saw yourself the week before she said yes, your energy 576 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: level was down. You know, maybe you guys weren't doing 577 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: talk yet, but then that Monday that you came back 578 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: after she said, yes, you were fired up, you were ready. 579 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: So when you well, I mean, you know, you got 580 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: to come back with your shield or on it, my friend, 581 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I was gearing up 582 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: for the big one. So well, down here in El Paso, 583 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: it is really bad right now. Buck. We've got illegals everywhere, 584 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: and you even got guys coming up and asking if 585 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: you want to have sex with a little ten year girl. 586 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: I've even called the cost. But then these guys get 587 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: out of here. We have over a thousand in cartel 588 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: members with their AK forty sevens across the border providing protection. 589 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: These guys are so sophisticated that they're using bar scanners 590 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: on these wristbands. Book, and I've seen I've seen the 591 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: wristbands that this is the other. This is another part 592 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: of it, you know, the human track. Thank you for 593 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: calling in, Chris, the human trafficking. I think we're getting 594 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: a little numb to that phrase. In the context of 595 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: the border people call human trafficking. It's not just adults 596 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: who are being you know, taken to and then who 597 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: go across the border and enter the United States. There 598 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: are women who are being transferred into sexual slavery. There 599 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: is abuse of children, you know, the worst kinds of 600 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: abuse of children going on at the border. We don't 601 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: necessarily know who would Sometimes these children tromp with the border, 602 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to find where they're going to go, these 603 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: unaccompanied miners. That there's all kinds, and also that what's 604 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: done to these children on their journey to the border. 605 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: There are terrible things that are happening every single day 606 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: over and over the end of the border, and there 607 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: is no sense of urgency, no sense of crisis from 608 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: this White House about it. They're the status quo for 609 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: them is fine. Honestly, they're not seeking to change anything 610 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: about it because I think this is their final push 611 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: to just completely destroy the system of immigration that we 612 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: have such that people enough, people come to the belief 613 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: that all we have left is mass amnesty and with 614 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: that the transformation of our legal landscape and our polity 615 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: and our political union in this country. I mean, if 616 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: you take in you know, I always pose it to 617 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: people this way. You know, if you have a country, 618 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: what is like, what does Denmark have ten or fifteen 619 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: million people? If you got ten million people and you 620 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: took in three million foreigners all at once who share 621 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: neither linguistic nor cultural similarity with that country. Is it 622 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: the same country? Assimilation means, you know, if you've got 623 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: ten million people, you take in one hundred thousand. You know, 624 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: they bring their backgrounds and their unique interests, et cetera. 625 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: But they assimilate into the broader culture and become a 626 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: part of that family when they do it legally. But 627 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: if you have ten million people, you know, if we 628 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: had one hundred million Russians come to America in the 629 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: next five years, is America is still America? You know, 630 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: you got to start looking at this and asking these 631 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: questions because they're going to try to legalize twenty to 632 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: thirty million illegals in the next two years. You watch, 633 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: that is the Biden plan.