1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: It is a special pod Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you, and also Senator Cruz's book Unwoke, 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: How to Defeat Culture Marxism America. Congratulations Center. It's at 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: number one in multiple categories right now on Amazon. If 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: you haven't grabbed the book yet, get it. It's incredible. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: It is a special pod because it's the GOP debate 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: and I want to get your first overall thoughts on 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: the night, Senator I watched it. I didn't really think 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: there was any big shock or anything that's going to 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: catapult somebody out of this debate. I found parts of 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: it a little fatiguing and just kind of boring. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: Your reaction, Well, I basically think that's right. We're sitting 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: here right now. It's ten thirty at night. The debate 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: just ended, and I didn't see anything this evening that 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: fundamentally changed the race. We are seeing the field start 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: to winnow. Some the last debate there was seven candidates 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: on the stage. This time there were five, and so 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: you had Mike Pences dropped out of the race, and 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: you had Doug Bergham, who didn't make the threshold for 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: this debate. And so the field winnowing is significant. I 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: think you're seeing more and more that that that that 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: the battle for who is the principal alternative to Trump 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: is shrinking down to DeSantis and Nikki Haley. Uh, you 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: saw the other candidates on the stage. Chris Christy continues 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: just just throwing throwing bricks at Trump, but not not 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: getting as I see, at any significant traction. 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: Tim Scott, I like Tim a lot. He's my colleague, 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: he's my friend, but but he has been having real 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: trouble getting traction in this race. And Vivek. Look, Vivek 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: had some some colorful moments, some fiery moments, but but 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, most of the dynamic 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: tonight seemed to be a battle between DeSantis and Haley, 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: and you could tell they were both throwing some hard, 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: hard shots at each other, trying to knock the other 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: off and say, Okay, I'm the lead person to take 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: on Trump. 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: You've obviously done this. Been in a presidential debate, quite 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: a few of them. And as that stage gets smaller 41 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: and smaller, there is a perk, I think for the voter, 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: and that is much more of a subset of debate. 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: There was one part of this debate that dealt with 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: the border. It was a part where DeSantis, I think, 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: was really trying to make himself be the front runner 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: on border security issues, and it dealt with the issue 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: of going after drug cartels and actually using special ops 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: to take them out. Here's part of what he had 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: to say on the debate stage. 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: Well, first, I was speaking to a dad who lost 51 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 5: the son fentanyl overdose. 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: Son wasn't a drug addict. 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 5: He had taken some pill that happened to be lace 54 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 5: with fentanyl and it was a fatal overdose. And when 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: he told me, obviously the pain of losing a child 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: is as bad as it gets. But he said, what 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 5: was salt in the wounds is that these elites in 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: DC don't give a damn about what's going on in 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: this country. They don't care that we have tens of 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: thousands of opioid deaths that the fentanel's pouring in. They 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: are not taking the type of action who need to. 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 5: We're declaring it a national emergency on day one. I'm 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 5: sending US military to the border. I'm going to stop 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: the invasion cold. I am going to deport people who 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: came illegally. And I'm even going to build the border 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 5: wall and have Mexico pay for it, like Donald Trump promised. 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: How are you going to do it? 68 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Mexico is not going to fork over money. We're 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: going to impose fees on the remittances that foreign workers 70 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: send to foreign countries. 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: We'll raise billions of dollars. 72 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 5: I'll build a wall, But we are going to designate 73 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 5: the cartels to be foreign terrorist organizations or something similar 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: to that, and we're going to authorize the use of 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 5: deadly force. We're going to have maritime operations to interdict precursor. 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: Chemicals going into Mexico. But I'll tell you this. 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: If someone in the drug cartels is sneaking fence and 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 5: all across the border when I'm present, that's going to be. 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: The last thing they do. We're going to shoot them, 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: stone cold dead. 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna shoot him, stone cold dead. The audience absolutely 82 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: erupted to that line. I'm saying, Hey, we'll treating Mike Terris. 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: I want your reaction to that. 84 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: So look, I think on the fentanyl question, the answers 85 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: from the candidates were all fine. To be honest, many 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: of the answers felt like talking points. There was very 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: little done in terms of an indictment of Joe Biden. 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: In fact, it was really hard to hear Joe Biden's 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: name even tonight. It was really striking that the candidates 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: didn't say Joe Biden's name, and they didn't say Donald 91 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: Trump's name very much, both of them. You know, it's 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: kind of ironic right now. I think most people think 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: the most likely nominees or Biden and Trump, and yet 94 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: the five on the stage rarely mentioned either name. I 95 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: think that was a strategic mistake on the border, you know, 96 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 3: I think it would have been more effective to see 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: someone really vigorously, passionately litigate the case against Biden. This 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: is a man made disaster. Joe Biden created it. Joe 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: Biden inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty 100 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: five years, and he came in and deliberately screwed it up. 101 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: And he screwed it up by ending remain in Mexico. 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: He screwed it up by reimposing catch and release. He 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: undermines the border patrol. And the president can fix this. 104 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: And I got to say, I didn't hear any of 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: the candidates really explain it. I don't know if they 106 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: understand it or not, but they didn't explain it that 107 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: this is one of the issues on which a president 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: can fix it and can fix it immediately, and that 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: was not clearly articulated. I have to say, several of 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: the candidates talked about using the military to go into 111 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: Mexico and kill the cartels. I gotta say, I think 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: that position is loopy. Our military doesn't invade sovereign nations, 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: and we should not start. We shouldn't be invading Mexico 114 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: or candidate or anyplace else. 115 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Now. 116 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: What I do think we need I've talked about this before, 117 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: is something like planned Colombia, which happened under George W. Bush, 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: when you had when you had the Mediine cartel, when 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: you had a massive wave of drugs coming in and 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: President Uribe and Colombia asked for America's help, said please 121 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: come in and help us get rid of the drug dealers, 122 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: and we did. We sent the military in and eradicated 123 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: much of their leadership. I think that would make enormous sense. 124 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: But I didn't hear anyone point out that to do 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: this you would need the Mexican government's approval, that we 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: should not be in the business of invading Mexico. And 127 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: I think fundamentally the reason people are saying let's send 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: the military in and invade Mexico is because they're not 129 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: explaining what has caused this crisis. It is a deliberate, 130 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: deliberate choice by Joe Biden, by Kamala Harris, by Alejandro Majorcis, 131 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: and by the Democrats in Congress to open up our borders. 132 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: And that choice could be reversed immediately by a president 133 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: who understood the problem and was prepared to say, if 134 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: you are apprehended, you will be deported, we will put 135 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: you on a plane, we will send you back. The 136 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: numbers would plummet, Both the numbers of illegal immigration and 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: the numbers of drugs coming into this country would plummet. 138 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: I'll mention something else also, which is on immigration. Vivek 139 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: talked about our northern border and he said another thing 140 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: that I thought was really kind of odd, and he said, 141 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: we need to build two walls, one on our southern border, 142 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: one on our northern border. I don't know what the 143 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: guy's talking about, the idea that we would build a 144 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: wall on our border with Canada. Number one, it would 145 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: be a massive wall that's a much much bigger wall 146 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: than our southern border. 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And yes, in theory center, that 190 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: sounds great, but if we're not welcomed, and there's no 191 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: indication that Mexico would welcome that right now, they haven't 192 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: asked for it, from what I understand, unless you know 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: something different than what's been publicly reported, they're not begging 194 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: or clamoring for us to come down there and take 195 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: on the cartels. 196 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Could we do that? 197 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 2: Could a president do that without the permission, just airspace 198 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: and all the other logistics that are involved, and go 199 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: after these cartels are bringing in fentanyl, because that sounds 200 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: like a great promise that may be very hard to 201 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: fill eagerly. 202 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 3: Look, could a president do that? A president's commander in chief, 203 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 3: you could order the military to go in. But ordinarily, 204 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: if you invade another country, that's considered a declaration of war. 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: And listen, I would love to and the military after 206 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: the cartels. If if, if the Mexican government asked for 207 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: our help, and to be clear, Colombia did, but it 208 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: took the situation getting bad enough that they recognized they 209 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: needed our help. And one of the problems is under 210 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: Joe Biden because he's opened up the border. The cartels 211 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: in Mexico have have increased their profits by two six 212 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: hundred percent. Back in twenty eighteen, they made roughly five 213 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars profits from human trafficking. Last year they 214 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: made thirteen billion dollars from human trafficking. The consequence of 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: that is the cartels have become one of, if not 216 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: the dominant player in Mexican society. We've seen crime rate skyrocket. 217 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: We see murders and kidnapping and disappearing all across Mexico. 218 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: It is tragic. We see Mexican politicians, Mexican journalists, we 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: see prosecutors, judges threatened at massive numbers. I sat down 220 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: with with with the mayor Reinosa, major American city right 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: across from McCallen, just a few weeks ago for lunch 222 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: along with several others in McCallen. He was describing how 223 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: in Renosa they've had roughly six thousand people disappeared by 224 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: the cartels. These are horrific numbers, and so right now 225 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: at least Amlo, who is viciously anti American, has become 226 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: more anti American with a weak president like Joe Biden 227 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: would never ever ever invite the military in to take 228 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: out the cartels. Now AMLO's going to be out of office. 229 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: The next president will see what happens. But I think 230 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: the answers on illegal immigration were fine, but none of 231 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: them expressed a deep understanding of what in fact is happening. 232 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: It was interesting as I was watching it, and I 233 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: want to get your take. I was looking at these 234 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: answers and almost like they were saying, I'm with Trump too, 235 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: and then Rama Swami's like, I'm with Trump, and then 236 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: I'll build even more wallwa in Canada. It was like 237 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 2: an overreach there. There wasn't any sense of like ownership 238 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: of their own ideas on how to deal with Fetano, 239 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: how to deal with China, and how to deal with 240 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: the cartels, and how to deal with the southern border. 241 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: It was regurgitating what I think. It's like they'd all 242 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: already heard that was popular. That concerned me as a Republican. 243 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and remember, look, every one of these candidates is 244 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 3: theoretically running to be the alternative to Trump. Having an 245 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: immigration debate where nobody mentions the name Joe Biden and 246 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: nobody mentions Donald Trump. It's just kind of weird, like 247 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: it's sort of missing the point. It's people reading a 248 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: few kind of like I said, talking points without acknowledging. 249 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: Number one, this is an area Trump had very significant success, 250 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: and he negotiated the remaining Mexico deal. That was a 251 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: big damn deal. It was a game changer. It was 252 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: unbelievably successful, and then Biden on his first week in 253 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 3: office ripped it to shreds and caused this crisis. And 254 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: to have that discussion without acknowledging that context, I think, 255 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: let me put it this way, I don't think any 256 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: of those candidates in discussing illegal immigration moved a single voter, 257 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: and that from their perspectives is a problem. 258 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is. 259 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: There was also a grand debate over pro hamas propaganda 260 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: on TikTok. Now, we've had debates about TikTok before. Should 261 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: it be banned? It's been banned on government devices, and 262 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: many states have banned from state government devices. Is it 263 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: a spying app ration is also in a sense of 264 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: mind control, where they're pushing propaganda in the face of 265 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: young people, in the face of people on TikTok twenty 266 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: four to seven. What we saw after what happened with 267 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: the attack on Israel is a massive and there's data 268 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: to back this up, A massive onslaught of pro Hamas 269 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: propaganda that was being pushed into the feeds, into the 270 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: scrolling of people that are on TikTok. This is a 271 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: reason why I don't use TikTok. I believe it is 272 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: nothing more than the Chinese Communist Party spying apparatus and 273 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: propaganda machine. 274 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: This was part of the debate. 275 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: I want you to hear it, and I want to 276 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: get your debate, your reaction to it as well. 277 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 6: We're going to stay on China and we're going to 278 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 6: talk specifically about TikTok. Last week, Congressman Mike Gallagher, who 279 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 6: is chairman of the House Bipartisan Select Committee on the 280 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 6: Chinese Communist Party, published a long essay on TikTok. Following 281 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 6: the flooding of pro Hamas propaganda on the TikTok accounts 282 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 6: across the United States, Chairman Gallagher called it shocking. He 283 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 6: called the app predatory controlled by America's pre eminent adversary, 284 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 6: one used to push propaganda and divide America. It's spyware, 285 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 6: he said, a means of surveievance Governor Christy, do you 286 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: agree with Chairman Gallagher and if so, would you ban 287 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 6: or force the sale of TikTok. 288 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 7: I agree one hundred percent with Chairman Gallagher. And let 289 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 7: me say this, TikTok is not only spyware, it is 290 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 7: pool looting the minds of American young people all throughout 291 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 7: this country. And they're doing it intentionally. And when you 292 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 7: saw what happened in the last few weeks with all 293 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 7: of this anti Semitic, horrible stuff that their algorithms were 294 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 7: pushing out at a gargantuan rate, this is China trying 295 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 7: to further divide the United States of America. 296 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: And this is one of the big. 297 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 7: Failings among many of the Trump administration. He talked tough 298 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 7: about TikTok. I heard him do it many times, but 299 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 7: when it came down to it, he did not ban 300 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 7: them what he could have and should have. And now 301 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 7: since then, we've had an additional nearly six years of 302 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 7: this type of poison be put out throughout the United States, even. 303 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: Putting aside the spine which we. 304 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 7: Know is going on and the theft of American personal 305 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 7: data and information. So in my first week as president, 306 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 7: we would ban TikTok. They want to go ahead and 307 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 7: sell it, Let them go ahead and sell it. But 308 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 7: I'll tell you another reason we would do it. Facebook's 309 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 7: not in China. X is not in China. They're not 310 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: permitting a free full of information to the Chinese people 311 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 7: from our social media companies. Yet we just open the 312 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 7: door and let them do what they're doing. TikTok's to 313 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 7: be banned because they are poisoning American minds, and I 314 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 7: would do it week one. 315 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Governor, Senator. 316 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: You hear those talking points that came there from a 317 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: guy that actually, I think is a pretty good debater, 318 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: and it probably hit with a lot of Americans the 319 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: way that Chris Christy described them, And I think the 320 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: comparing contrast with China is brilliant. He's like, look, they 321 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: ban our stuff all the time. They don't let X 322 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: in their Twitter, they don't let Facebook in there. Why 323 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: are we so shy as a nation to get rid 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: of of TikTok? Are forced to sale your thoughts on that? 325 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: Look, I think you're right. I think Chris's answer there 326 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 3: was quite good. But at the same time, one of 327 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: the things that was striking is is as I saw it, 328 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: there was basically complete agreement on TikTok across the debate 329 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: stage that immediately after that, Hugh Hugh had asked asked 330 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 3: DeSantis if he agreed. He said he did, He asked 331 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: Nicky Haley, and Ramaswami Vivek said that he agreed, although 332 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: he said more broadly that other tech companies are are 333 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: sharing information with China. We need to crack down on that. 334 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: He's right on that, and then he asked Nikki Haley, 335 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: and Nicki Haley used it as a chance to punch 336 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: back at other candidates on the stage who had attacked 337 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: her on China generally. So I didn't hear her answer 338 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: the question. But look, the answers were good, and what 339 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: you just played from Chris was well articulated. Again, I 340 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: don't know that any of these answers are differentiating. When 341 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: you get everyone on the stage agreeing, it's difficult to 342 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: see what votes are being moved. If they're all saying 343 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: the same thing. It's status quo. And I will say, 344 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: you know, Chris there saying if I were president, I 345 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: would ban it. You know, I would have liked to 346 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: actually have seen a follow up from the moderator, Well, 347 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: what under what legal authority would you ban it? Look, 348 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: she and China can ban whatever the hell he wants 349 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: because it's a dictatorship. But to actually ban something in 350 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: America takes some legal authority. And it's one thing to 351 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: say I would go to Congress and push legislation to 352 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: ban it. That's that's a position. That is a reasonable 353 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: position for a presidential candidate to make. But I have 354 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: not seen an effective argument that the president has the 355 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: unilateral power to wave a magic wand and suddenly say 356 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: TikTok is banned in America. And if Christy has an 357 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: argument for that, he certainly didn't articulate. 358 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: How would you ban it? 359 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: I mean, explain to people how that would work legally 360 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: if you let's let's say that any one of these 361 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: people magically could do this instantly tomorrow. 362 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: It's not as simple as as you just described it. Right. 363 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: This is one of those empty promises in a campaign 364 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: that people make which drive voters insane. But what would 365 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: it actually take to get rid of TikTok or force 366 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: a sale? 367 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 8: Oh? 368 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: Look, you could have and there was discussion under Trump 369 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: of trying to force a sale. And there they're existing laws, 370 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: there's there's there's a process called SCIPHIUS that deals with 371 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: foreign investment in the United States. I'm not saying it 372 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: is impossible to come up with an argument of executive 373 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: power to do this, but but Christy did not present 374 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: any argument under that, and I haven't seen a persuasive 375 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: argument that it can be done as an executive matter. 376 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: If it's not done as an executive matter, then it 377 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: would take legislation, and you'd have to actually get get 378 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: that to move through Congress, and it certainly has not 379 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: moved yet. I do agree. Look TikTok. The Chinese government 380 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: has has control of TikTok, the ability to monitor, monitor 381 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: what's happening on TikTok. They are pushing very harmful messages. 382 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: I think they are deliberately harming the United States. I 383 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: think they are targeting our kids. They're targeting our kids 384 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: with garbage. They're targeting our kids with self harm messages. 385 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: They're targeting our kids with with substance abuse and drug 386 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: use messages, and and on hamas. It has been horrific 387 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: the pro Hamas propaganda that's being pushed on on TikTok. Now, 388 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: I will say that we saw we saw it back 389 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: and forth where NICKI Haley slammed Vivek because he's on TikTok, 390 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: and and he came back with a pretty good response 391 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: and said, well, look, you know, all the lefties are 392 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: on TikTok and we need to actually have some positive 393 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: messaging there. I understand that argument. I'm not on TikTok myself, 394 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: but but but because of the Chinese control. But it 395 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: worries me at times that if all conservatives abandoned that 396 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: platform and so many kids are are following it, that 397 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: that that we're leaving it to be almost entirely negative. 398 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: And so I thought Vivek's response there was pretty good 399 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: until he went too far and he had a nasty 400 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: shot at Nikki Haley where he said, well, your daughter's 401 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: on it, and you're a hypocrite and and and NICKI 402 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: quite rightly got pissed off at that. 403 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was this was that response for this point. 404 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: It was a great back and forth. And if you 405 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: missed it, here's what it sounded like. 406 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 9: Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't 407 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 9: answer your question, which is about looking at families in 408 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 9: the eye. And the last debate she made fun of 409 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 9: me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was 410 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 9: actually using the app for a long time, So you 411 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 9: might want to take care of your family first. A daughter, 412 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 9: the next generation of Americans are using it. And that's 413 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 9: actually the point. You have her supporters cropping her up. 414 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 9: That's fine, here's the truth. The easy answer is actually 415 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 9: to say that we're just going to ban one app. 416 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 9: We got to go further. We have to ban any 417 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 9: US company actually transferring US data to the Chinese. 418 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: Here's a story. 419 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: Most people. 420 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to jump back in there because you heard 421 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: the back and forth where she even says you're just scum. 422 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 423 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: Look, I think that was a very very bad moment 424 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 3: for VIC. When you're attacking someone's kid, she was exactly 425 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: right to pop back at him. And I just think 426 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: that's out of bound. Don't don't attack people's kids. You 427 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: will you want, you want to criticize the candidate, great, 428 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: but going after their kid. I I think Vivek lost 429 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: votes and lost support on that, and and I think 430 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: a lot of parents are like, leave the kids the 431 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: hell out of it, and and and and her reaction, 432 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: look the disgust she had where I think that was real, 433 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: and and that was I think one of the most 434 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 3: consequential moments of the debate. 435 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: And I want to move to Israel real quick and 436 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 2: get your reaction. This obviously has become a presidential election cycle, 437 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: that is that is heavy in now foreign policy. Ron 438 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: DeSantis was asked the question about Israel. There's an obsession now, 439 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 2: you and I talked about this yesterday. Uh, there's an 440 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: obsession by the laugh for a ceased fire. Now the 441 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: White House is pushing for a ceasefire. Babe has made 442 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: it very clear, No, if you want to seize fire, 443 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: then release all of the hostages. Otherwise, we're moving forward 444 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: and we're not stopping until we get rid of Hamas. 445 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: And now there's new warnings coming from the UN and 446 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: even the White House about Israel. If you go too 447 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: far in their words, they're now the atturning Israel and 448 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: the bad guys. Also what you predicted, they had a 449 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: few weeks to do what they need to do, and 450 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: after that they were going to people are going to 451 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: turn on them very quickly. But Desantas said this when 452 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: he was asked about America's foreign policy and net Yahoo. 453 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 5: I would be telling Bbe finish the job once and 454 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 5: for all with these butchers Hamas. They're terrorists, They're massacring 455 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: innocent people. They would wipe every Jew off the globe 456 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: if they could. He cannot live with that threat right 457 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 5: by his country. That Hamas should release every hostage and 458 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 5: they should unconditionally surrender. 459 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 4: I'm sick of hearing the media. 460 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 5: I'm sick of hearing other people blame Israel just for 461 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 5: defending itself. We will stand with Israel in word and indeed, 462 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 5: in public and in private. And I can tell you, 463 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 5: as governor, I actually did something about it. Biden's and 464 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 5: neglect has been atrocious. We had Floridians that were over 465 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 5: there after the attack. 466 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: He left them stranded. 467 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 5: They couldn't get flights out, so I scrambled resources in Florida. 468 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: I sent planes over. 469 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: To Israel and I brought back over seven hundred people 470 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 5: to safety. There could have been more hostages had we 471 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 5: not acted. And I'll tell you this. I met the 472 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 5: first planeload when they came to Florida and one of 473 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 5: the mothers pointed to a six year old daughter and 474 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: she said, my daughter had been saying the last two nights, mommy, 475 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to hear any more bombs. 476 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: No more rockets. 477 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: I just want to get back to Florida. So there's 478 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: a difference between words and deeds. We acted and we 479 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: save lives. 480 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: I thought that was a strong point, not just about 481 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: American leadership and how we should make sure that we 482 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: get people out of countries when we can. This is 483 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: I think a clear indirect shot in essence at the 484 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: President for what happened in Afghanistan and also what's happening now, 485 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: but also him saying to me, be you can't expect 486 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: it to do anything but what he's doing now to 487 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: keep his people safe. 488 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: He cannot live with terrorists next door. 489 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: Now, that was an excellent answer. It was one of, 490 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: if not the strongest moment of the night. It was 491 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: excellent both on substance that he was calling out the 492 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 3: need to support Israel and destroying hamas he called out Biden. 493 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: So unlike the other points I made where they were 494 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 3: reluctant to call out Biden, he went very directly at Biden. 495 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: And part of what made that answer so strong is 496 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: that Dessanus acted decisively. He had something to say there 497 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: because as governor of Florida, sending those planes to bring 498 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: Floridians home from Israel, that was a big deal, that 499 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: was well done, that showed initiative, that showed leadership. It's 500 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: part of why Ron has such a strong record as 501 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: governor of Florida. As an executive, He's able to act 502 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: Youni latterly in a way the other candidates can't. It's 503 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: not something it's not like Chris Christy could suddenly send 504 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: planes to take people to New Jersey. He does not 505 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: have that capacity. Ron as governor did, but no other 506 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: governor did that. They're fifty governors in America and only 507 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: one did that. And so it was a combination of 508 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: substantively strong combined with a unique moment in his record 509 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: that Ron was able to capitalize on. And Look, this 510 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: is one of the things that I've been emphasizing. Debates 511 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: are all about one of a couple of things. Number One, 512 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: are you moving votes? Are you moving votes and moving 513 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: them from whom they've got to come from somewhere. So 514 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: if you are adding to your vote total, you're taking 515 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: votes from somebody else. For the candidates on that stage, 516 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: if they're adding to their vote total, they're either taking 517 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: votes from one of the other candidates on that stage 518 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: or from Donald Trump. And you do that through points 519 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: of differentiation. If you all say the same thing, nothing changes. 520 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: Well that's an instance where what de Santus was saying 521 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 3: was different and I think that was a differentiating moment. 522 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: There needed to be more of those in the debate 523 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: for the candidates. I do think the field is shrinking. 524 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: I think it is more and more becoming between Dissantus 525 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: and and Haley. I think Nikki had a good and 526 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: effective night. She's articulate, she defended herself well, there were 527 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: lots of shots coming at her. But I think all 528 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: of the candidates would have been better off by having 529 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 3: more differentiators between themselves and the other people on that stage, 530 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: and critically between themselves and Trump and between themselves and Biden. 531 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: Do you think, lastly on the debate that there will 532 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: be this many candidates on the next debate stage or 533 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: do you think there will be more that fall off? 534 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: And it goes to as you mentioned earlier that DeSantis 535 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley, you know, kind of two people. 536 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I have read the press speculation. 537 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: So the RNC has increased the threshold for the next debate, 538 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: and at least the press speculation is that Tim Scott 539 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: is unlikely to clear that next threshold. I don't know 540 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: if that's right, and we'll see where things are, but 541 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: I do think falling off the debate stage is effectively 542 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: fatal in this race that if you're not there, it 543 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: is difficult to see how a candidacy survives if it 544 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: can't make the debate stage. I don't know if Christy 545 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: makes this the debate stage or not. I have not 546 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: looked at his numbers closely enough to see if he 547 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: would make the stage. It would be a very different 548 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: debate if it were down to three people. I think 549 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: the three that will make it for sure our DeSantis, Haley, 550 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: and probably Vivek. His numbers are strong enough, and I 551 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: will say so in twenty sixteen when I was doing debates, 552 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: and this is true of every debate that I do. 553 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: You try to think in terms of moments. Do you 554 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: have a moment that catches fire, that goes viral, that 555 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: results in fundraising. So if you have a really good 556 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: moment that catches fire the next day and even that night, 557 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: your fundraising can explode. I had debates where within twenty 558 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: four hours we'd raise millions of dollars because you had 559 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: a moment that really just just resonated and it can 560 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: move votes. You know, when we had a great debate, 561 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: it was striking where we'd go to events and events 562 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: that used to have three hundred people would have two 563 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: thousand people, and it was an immediate effect of a 564 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: really strong debate. 565 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: And so that feeling, I mean, it's no joke. 566 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: You can really feel like, wow, we really did well 567 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: last night because the people showed up for us today. 568 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so there were not a whole lot of 569 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: moments like that. Now, I will Sayvivek had a good 570 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: moment in his opening and his opening he blasted the 571 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: RNC and it was memorable, and he blasted the debate moderators. 572 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: And if you have that clip, you ought to play 573 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 3: that because that was one of the more striking moments 574 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: of the debate. 575 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 4: I'm mister Ramaswami. Let me turn to you. Please make 576 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: your case. 577 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 6: Why would you Why should you be the nominee and 578 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 6: not the former president? 579 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 9: I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican 580 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 9: Party here, and I am upset about what happened last night. 581 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 9: We've become a party of losers at the end of 582 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 9: the day. Is a cancer in the Republican establishment. 583 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Speak the truth. 584 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 9: I mean, since Ronald McDaniel took over best chairwoman of 585 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 9: the R and C in twenty seventeen, we have lost 586 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 9: twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty two. 587 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: No red wave that never came. 588 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 9: We got trounced last night in twenty twenty three. And 589 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 9: I think that we have to have accountability in our 590 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 9: party for that matter. On if you want to come 591 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 9: on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters 592 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 9: in the eye and tell them you resign, I will 593 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 9: turn over my yield my time to you, and frankly, 594 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 9: look the people they're cheering for losing in the Republican Party. 595 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 9: Think about who's moderating this debate. This should be Tucker Carlson, 596 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 9: Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. We'd have ten times the viewership, 597 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 9: asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and 598 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 9: bringing more people. 599 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: Into our party. 600 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 9: You think the Democrats, and I've got Christian Walker here, 601 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 9: You think that Democrats would actually hire Greg Guttfeld toast 602 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 9: a Democratic debate. 603 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: They wouldn't do it. 604 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: And so the fact of the matters, I mean, christ I'm. 605 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 9: Gonna use this time because This is actually about you 606 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 9: in the media and the corrupt media establishment. 607 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Ask you the. 608 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 9: Trump Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on. 609 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: This network for years. 610 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 9: Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation? 611 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Answer the question, go. 612 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: Mister, this is how we get a puncher. 613 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 9: We need accountability because this media rigged the twenty sixteen election. 614 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 9: They rigged the twenty twenty election with the Hunter Biden 615 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 9: laptop story, and they're. 616 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: Gonna rig this election accountability. 617 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: By the way, I love how fast he jumped in 618 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: there to take those blows, which, by the way, his 619 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: attack on that debate moderator is accurate. She did, in 620 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: fact push the Russian hoax for years on the network. 621 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: So listen. I will say that that was a striking opening. 622 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: I mean that that that is unusual, that may be 623 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: unique in the in the history of presidential debate openings, 624 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: and it will be memorable. I'm not sure uh that 625 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: it moved a lot of votes, but it's the sort 626 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: of thing that will go viral online. It's the sort 627 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: of thing there was fire flowing now. It also feels 628 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: a bit performative. So for example, unloading on on Rona McDaniel, listen, 629 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: I'm frustrated. We're all frustrated at the election results last night, 630 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: and that we've had multiple elections with with results that 631 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: that that were subpar, and and and we can have 632 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: long discussions about why that is. I gotta say it 633 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: is a bit of a weird argument to say it's 634 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: Ronal McDaniel's fault, like, I'm sorry, the head of the 635 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 3: r NC is not winning or losing national elections. And 636 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: so what I felt that was it is really Vivek 637 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: has run his whole campaign never ever ever criticizing Donald Trump, 638 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: so he didn't want to blame Trump, and and so 639 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 3: Rona was kind of a convenient whipping boy for that. 640 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: But the sort of solution he was pointing to is 641 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: you need to resign, I thought was less effective. And 642 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: you could point to Trump, you could point to Mitch McConnell, 643 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: you could point to candidates selection as to why we lost, 644 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: you could point to messaging. But targeting Rana on there 645 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 3: I thought was odd. Look, going after the media is 646 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: pretty much always a good strategy and a Republican debate, 647 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: and I will say his substantive point is exactly right 648 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: and something I've called for for a long time. I 649 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: believe Republican presidential primary debates should only be moderated by 650 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: people who will vote in a Republican primary debate. If 651 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: you look at Democrat primary debates, you have media journalists, 652 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 3: all of whom are Democrats, who moderate the debates, and 653 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: every one of the moderators wants one of the Democrats 654 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: on the stage to win. If you look at many 655 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: Republican debates, they're moderated by journalists. Often all of them 656 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: are going to vote in the Democrat primary, want every 657 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 3: person on the stage to lose. And and so tonight 658 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: the only person on that stage who's going to vote 659 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: in the Republican primary is Hugh Hewett. And I thought 660 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 3: Hugh did did an admirable job. I like you, He's 661 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: a smart guy, he's very knowledgeable on foreign policy and 662 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: national security. I thought he did an admirable job. And 663 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: and I did think Vivek's point about Welker pushing the 664 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: the the Russia hoax was was really it scored. I 665 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: will say it would have been more effective if the 666 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: moderators had been more blatantly biased. And I will say 667 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: I did think that that that Welker and Lester Holt 668 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 3: did not do a bad job tonight. There have been 669 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: debates where where we've seen moderators do horrible, horrible jobs 670 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: and make it all about themselves. And and here I 671 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: thought the moderators were fairly restrained and and and did 672 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: a good job of not making it about themselves. And 673 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: it's striking there, even at the end after he blasts Welker, 674 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: where she doesn't engage, she just says, okay, you know, 675 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: moving on and you know when it comes to authenticity. 676 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 3: I mean that that whole riff felt to me a 677 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: bit like a performance piece because he was resolved to 678 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 3: blast the moderators before they'd done anything. I think it 679 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 3: would have been more effective in response to demonstrated bias 680 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: and and and and I didn't see nearly as much 681 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: bias from the moderators as we've seen in other debates. 682 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. 683 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: It was like you said, when sometimes you have lines 684 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: that you get ready for and you look for, and 685 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: he played that hand before they showed their bias in 686 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: this debate. Uh, and it may have looked like you said, 687 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: two pre planned there. I want to tell you about 688 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: Augusta Precious Metals. 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Jimmy Kimmel is promoting your book, Senator. 717 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this. I also am waiting for 718 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: the restraining order because he's absolutely obsessed with you. Your 719 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: new book that is out, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural 720 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: Marxism in America. He gave it a prime time promotion 721 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: on his show last night. Here's what it sounded like. 722 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 8: Ted Cruz has a new book. It's called Unwoke. It's uh, 723 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 8: he's you know what, he's so cool. He's you can 724 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 8: tell it's Ted's book because the dust jacket doesn't quite fit. 725 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 4: It won't won't button in the front. But this is 726 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: Cruse's fifth book. 727 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 8: The last one was called Ted Cruz A Time for 728 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 8: Truth there without the beard. He also wrote Ted Cruz 729 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 8: head Ooze. He wrote Glued Pubes, the Guy from Islasa 730 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 8: Katuro Beard. It, of course, the new York Times bestseller, 731 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 8: A partially Digested Rat, and other things I found in 732 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 8: my Chin Pouse. There are many interesting musings and revelations 733 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 8: in the books. He says The Princess Bride is his 734 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 8: favorite movie and he's seen it hundreds of times, which 735 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 8: is definitely not true. No one's seen anything hundreds of times. 736 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 8: And apparently he's not a big fan of late night television. 737 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 8: This is an excerpt, real excerpt. He wrote a late 738 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 8: on TV is virtually unwatchable. I love comedy, but watching 739 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 8: angry leftists scream about how much they hate Donald Trump, 740 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 8: is it remotely funny? 741 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 4: It's pitiful. 742 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 8: Well, all I'll say is it's an honor to be 743 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 8: called pitiful by a man who abandoned his dog in 744 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 8: an ice storm to go to Mexico. 745 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 4: But congrats ted Is. 746 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 3: And seriously, I do want to say, you. 747 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 8: Know, writing writing a book like this is a huge accomplishment, 748 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 8: especially for him. 749 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 4: You know, it's very difficult to type with. 750 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: Hook I mean cider. It doesn't it prove your point 751 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: that you just wrote in your book. That was the 752 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: part that made me laugh is as he's forcing this 753 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,479 Speaker 2: comedy on the audience, and there's some awkward laughter. It's like, yeah, 754 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: thanks for proving the point of what that you just 755 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 2: wrote about in your book. 756 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: Sure, look, I mean it was when when he did 757 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 3: that last night. I actually tweeted his monologue out this 758 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: morning and I said, hey, thank thanks for pitching my book. 759 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: You forgot the link to where you can buy it, 760 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 3: and I sent the link, and I did something that 761 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 3: that that is is fairly obligatory also, which is Kimmel 762 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 3: regularly blasts me in his late night monologues, and every 763 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: time he does, I respond and I point out that 764 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 3: that that ever since I whipped Jimmy Kimmel's ass in 765 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 3: one on one hoops, it seems that I'm living rent 766 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 3: free in his head. 767 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 8: Uh. 768 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: And so I sent a video of me scoring on 769 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: him and blocking him, just to remind him of that 770 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 3: moment that I think he probably still wakes up in 771 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 3: Tremor's about. But I thought it was hysterical what he read. 772 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 3: There was an actual excerpt from the book, and he 773 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 3: put up the book cover and I think that's fabulous. 774 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: But I do wish the substantent point that late night 775 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 3: humor I wish was actually funny. I love comedy. I 776 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: grew up watching sn L. I like real comedians who 777 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 3: are funny, and they used to be funny. And now 778 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 3: it's one of the many examples that I discussed it 779 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 3: at length in the book Unwoke How How Trump broke 780 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: the media, Trump broke the Democrat Party, and Trump broke 781 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 3: late night comedy because they just it's a partisan, primal 782 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 3: skeet scream instead of good comedy, makes fun of both sides. 783 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 3: I'm perfectly fine with making fun of me, but they 784 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 3: never ever make fun of the Democrats. It's purely a 785 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 3: I am leftist? Hear me, roar Yeah. It's a great point. 786 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: Don't forget grab the book, especially you know now that 787 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel's promoting it. Unwoke How Did Defeat Cultural Marxism 788 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: in America? Congrat Center. It's number one in multiple categories 789 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: right now on Amazon. You grab it right now on 790 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 2: Amazon will get to you really quickly. You can grab 791 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: a copy for a great Christmas gift as well, or 792 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 2: wherever you get your books. It is out now, Unwoke 793 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 2: How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. And there's also 794 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: another liberal book, by the Way, that you were beating 795 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: earlier today just a little side note, Rachel Maddow has her 796 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: new book out and you were ahead of that, which 797 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: made me just grint a little bit. 798 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: Senator, Well, that is a good thing, and beating the 799 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: lefties is a great American pastime. 800 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: There we go. 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