1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Lettington, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello. 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 3: Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: Call It What It Is jess Tinky Tink style. 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm just coming out with it. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 4: I love it. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: No, I mean seriously, I when we teased out the 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 3: tinks was coming overwhelming response. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and I even got text through like oh my god, 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: oh my god, can you ask her this? I know 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: she It's like she's the oracle. 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: I want to ask her. 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: And I feel like we said we represent ourselves as 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: that we know a thing about a thing or two. 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: But she's more No, because I was on her TikTok 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: like all last night and I was like and I 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: was learning. I was like, I don't know anything, I 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: know absolute and she knows it all. 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: So I want to ask her all these things. Yeah, 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's bring her on. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 5: Hi. 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, how are you guys? 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: What's going on? Hi? 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Call It What It Is? 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: I'm so excited to have a chat. 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: We were just talking about you because I, I mean, 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: I guess it was sort of like when when like 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: the TikTok like ah, thanks, and then like if everyone 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: was talking about you and I was like, I mean, like, 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: how does this phone thing work? 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: Kind of TikTok work? What's my name? What are we doing? 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: And I got I was like this, girls, like I 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: think everyone was talking about what you were talking about 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: and you being in the zeitgeist of all the conversations, 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: but I was actually going, damn, she's really smart, so kind. 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: Like the way that you were putting it, the way 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: you were positioning it, the way you were speaking about it, 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of heart and you know, listen, there's 41 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: a lot of noise. All of a sudden, you had 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: like what you were saying had has real teeth and 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: like made people, I think, feel seen. 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: And then. 45 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: Create a different. 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Dimension to how they were looking at their lives or 47 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: like a perspective that maybe like something that had been 48 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: sitting in their blind spot. And I feel like whenever 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: someone comes around that's smart and feels like I can 50 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: trust her, you get you get a new take on it. 51 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: So that's how I remember coming to know who you are. 52 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: For you, I'm curious because Jessica's talking about like the 53 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: moment that you sort of like popped off. When did 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: you realize, like, oh shit, people are really watching these 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: tiktoks and like I have an audience. 56 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: I think the first time that I got a brand deal, 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: I was so shocked that like you could get money 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: for it because I have my job in COVID, Like 59 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: I had been consulting for a couple brands kind of 60 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: like doing this and that, and all the brands obviously 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: didn't need any help in COVID, and so I was, 62 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: you know, stressed about that. And I remember the first 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: time that I got a brand deal, this brand was like, 64 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: you know, we'll pay you six hundred dollars to weare 65 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: our pants in your video. And I was like, I 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: was like shut. I was flabbergasted. I was like can 67 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: I keep the vans too? 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: Like they're like giving them back though. 69 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe it, and I like didn't have 70 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: a plan. I was like, you know, we were all 71 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: out of our minds in the pandemic. We were like 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: like living day to day like doing whatever. Yeah, I 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: get through it. And I was like making these videos and. 74 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: With your teeny tiny little microphone, but my tea, Like 75 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: I literally. 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: Was the point where like I had so little going 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: on because I was like living alone in my studio 78 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: apartment in La. I was so new to La, so 79 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: we didn't have a ton of friends and obviously we 80 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: weren't supposed to hang out anyway. Yeah, and you know, 81 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: I was just like, Okay, well, I'll just do this 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: to keep myself busy. And then my friends were like, 83 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: I think you can like do this, like you should 84 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: just keep going. And I was like, I feel too 85 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: old to be on this platform, blah blah blah, and 86 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: they were like, just keep making videos, and so I 87 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: did it. And when I got my first brand deal, 88 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: I was just so happy. I was like, I can't 89 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: believe you can get paid to make content. And I 90 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: was like, I'm going to see how far it is. 91 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, when look at you now, I so. 92 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: Feel jealous of that kind of knack for the social 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: media because I think it takes me a second to 94 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: like sort of get myself into it, and I think 95 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: just some people just take to. 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: It like a duck to water. And I feel like. 97 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: You you are such unnatural. 98 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I really was stalking you yesterday. How did 99 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: you figure out what you wanted to talk about? First? Like, 100 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: especially in the pandemic when you're not even going anywhere. 101 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: It was like treal and error. I was like, okay, 102 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: let me make a video about this, like let me. 103 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: I knew I couldn't do the dances. I was like, well, 104 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: these girls are seen and they're so cute. So this 105 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 4: is not my thing, but maybe I can make content 106 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: for people my age. And I'm a millennial and I like, 107 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: I love a listicle. I love like a jokey you 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: know thing about pump sure like that's our. 109 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: Shit, right we cool? 110 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, this feedless? We love that stuff. I love 111 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: like what Harry Potter character, are you whatever? Anything that coded? 112 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: I like? So I was like, maybe I can do 113 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: it for people my age, and I was just trialing error. 114 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, people love when I talk about this. 115 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: They don't like when I talk about that, and it's 116 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: it's evolved. 117 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: What did they love? And what are they not? 118 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: Like? 119 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: What did you see right away? 120 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: They love like self deprecating lists like I remember I 121 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: did want like ranked how pretty I was in all 122 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: the cities that I've lived in. I was like, okay, 123 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: I was a timely, funny Francisco and I was like 124 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: a four in New York and I'm a mine in 125 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 4: LA like they love that shit, they like. I used 126 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: to also share way more of my personal life, Like 127 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: I would share everything about dating. And I think because 128 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 4: I was a little bit older, it was a nice 129 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 4: antidote to all of the like eighteen year olds in 130 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: the high pals who were they were having dating drama. 131 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: But there's something about like teenage drama that doesn't hit 132 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: as hard whereas I would have my drama. Yeah, it's 133 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: like I was in my I was in my I 134 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: was like just turning thirty. I was like in love 135 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: with my best guy friend and I was sharing all 136 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: of that and people like that worked a lot too, I. 137 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: For people that don't know you and the listening right now, 138 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: you have this theory that is slightly terrifying to me. 139 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: What's the box dating theory? 140 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: Okay, box theory is my theory that when a guy 141 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: meets a girl in a romantic setting, so a date 142 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: of an app, a setup, or something like this, he 143 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: puts her into one of three boxes. 144 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: Now, hang on, wait, do you have to meet in person? 145 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: No, it could be dating app, but it has to 146 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: be a romantic setting. Like, it doesn't apply if say 147 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: you've been friends with that person for a long time, 148 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: or you're they're your colleague and you've seen them every 149 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: day for ages and then, like you, one of them 150 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: catches feelings or whatnot. I'm talking about like a true 151 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: like it's a romantic setting. 152 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: Okay. 153 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: The guy will put the girl in a one of 154 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: three boxes. Wants to date her, wants to hook up 155 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 4: with her, doesn't want anything to do with her. Okay, 156 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: the third box is easy. You can usually tell when 157 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: a guy is just like, yeah, you can usually. 158 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: I mean it still stings, like it still stings. 159 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: But like, well, yeah, Where people get confused is between 160 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: the date box and the hook up box. And the 161 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: point is you can't move from box to box. This 162 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: is what really trips people up because it rings and 163 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: I I was in the hookup box, he stabs, Like, 164 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: for all of my twenties, I would be in the 165 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: hook up box. And I would be like, if I 166 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: just act perfect enough, I will I will want to 167 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: date me. And the truth is that's not how it works. 168 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: When a guy meets you, he's like, yeah, I want 169 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: to date her, and there's very little you can do 170 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: to make him not want to date you because We've 171 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: all been on the end of that, where you know 172 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: you're seeing a guy, you're not that into him, and 173 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: he's just yes, he will follow up. He's asking you 174 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: for drinks, he's booking the next date, he remembers that 175 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: your sister is having foot surgery and he's following up 176 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: about it. And we've all also been on the other 177 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: end where you're like, I'm acting so perfectly, like. 178 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: I'm funny, I'm having everything right. 179 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: I'm talking about you know, Jesus and golden retrievers, like 180 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: he just won't date you. And it's because they put 181 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: you in these boxes. And then people say to me like, well, thanks, 182 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: you're putting all the power in the guy's hands. That's 183 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: not really how I look at it. I look at 184 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: it as like a self awareness thing, so that you 185 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: don't ever act in a way that's not in accordance 186 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: with who you are. Because speaking from personal experience as well, 187 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: I think a lot of girls think, oh, well, I 188 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: should like write a text a certain way, or I 189 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: should do this a certain way, or that a certain way. 190 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: You need to be yourself because the right guy will 191 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: like youtaneously. And like I said, there's very little that 192 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 4: you can do to make him not like you after that, 193 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 4: Like girls will always call my show and be like, 194 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: oh my god, like things were going well, I thought, 195 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 4: And then I put two exclamation marks instead of one of. 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: The text like this was me dating by the way, 197 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, no. 198 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: You're the sooka box and it's fine. It's just like 199 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 4: it's good to know where you stand so that you 200 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: don't waste time on someone who wouldn't mind losing you. 201 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: Does it work both ways? 202 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: Do girls put guys in boxes or just the guys 203 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: to the girls? 204 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: I don't think girls. 205 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: Do girls do something which I call reverse box theory, 206 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: which is where girls will elevate a guy to a 207 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: crazy status without him really being worthy of it. And 208 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: so by that they'll see a guy on a dating 209 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: app and they'll be like, oh my god, he has 210 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: a dog. I have a dog. Oh he has he 211 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: has a picture with his mom, he's a family man. 212 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: He went to Michigan. I have been to Michigan. 213 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: Like we are points, yeah, twin flames in your head. 214 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 4: And again I've done this in times. I know judgment 215 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: even like you're having we're having a May wedding, like 216 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: we're gonna get married husband. Then you go to the date. 217 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: You're nervous as hell because in your head that this 218 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: is the father of your children. Need to get a 219 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 4: ring in six months. Act like a freak because you're 220 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: so nervous. The truth of the matter is this guy 221 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: hasn't done anything to prove that he's a good guy, 222 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: that he your time, that he deserves your effort. It's 223 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: not our fault. It's just that women, and I think 224 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: especially with the you know, the dating apps, they really 225 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 4: make you like future trip and they make you imagine 226 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: something before it's real and the only thing. 227 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: But I think that it's also I mean, I'm sure 228 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: you've already like scratched at this, but I think it's 229 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: also science. 230 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a neurobiological like. 231 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: I think it harkens back to the days though really 232 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: old ones. 233 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: We're looking for the signs like yeah, I'm going to 234 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: be a provider. It's totally normal. My point is just that, like, 235 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: don't make him greater than he is in your mind, 236 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: because the most important thing is how he treats you 237 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 4: and how you feel. If you leave the date and 238 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: you're like I feel funny, I feel sexy, I feel beautiful, 239 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: I feel seen. I feel like he listened. Then sure 240 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: you can think that this dude is great, but not 241 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: before he's actually shown you. Yeah, he's a good. 242 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: Person, a great I'm raising my hand. 243 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: I have a question, Yes, how quickly do you think 244 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: guys are boxing us? 245 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: Very quickly? 246 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: It's like the terminator helmet. It's like they scalely like. 247 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: First, hang out first, hangout box first. 248 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like by the you might get boxed 249 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: at the bar, just standing there. 250 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: Like it's it's you're in the box. But it's not 251 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: as scary as it seems. It's like it's honestly really 252 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: freeing because then once you know, you're just like, oh, 253 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: like you want to be in someone's Everybody deserves to 254 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: be in someone's date box, and you will in date box. 255 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 4: So if you're not, like if you're hanging out dating 256 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: with someone who texts you sporadically, doesn't make you feel 257 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 4: seen all this shit, you're like, okay, I'm in their 258 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: hook up box and that's okay as long as I know, 259 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: and then I can make a decision like do I 260 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: want to see this person casually or am I looking 261 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: for something real? And then I can move on. 262 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, knowledge is power? What is according to you? I 263 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 2: want to know what has been the worst city to 264 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: date in. 265 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good one, I would say, La. 266 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought you were to say New York. 267 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: Oh not, I'm by the way, In case you didn't know, 268 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm in New York and she's in La. 269 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, La New York and we both lived in both 270 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: places too, Okay, tell us why. 271 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: I think that it's the flakiness combined with all the 272 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: normal dating hell. Like, I think at least York you 273 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: have you can go on a date. Like, if you're 274 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: jonesing to go on a date, you can one percent 275 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: make the plan on hinge. People will follow through people date. 276 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: They're like, it's like going to the gym. You know, 277 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 4: you can like, oh, well what did you do last night? 278 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 4: I went to the gym and went out a date. Then, 279 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: you know, it's just a thing that people do. In La, 280 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 4: people are like recluses. Sometimes. I'm not here to bash La, 281 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: but I just there's not a place where people congregate 282 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: enough ever go Like if you were in a flirty mood, 283 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: you and your girlfriend were single, and you wanted to 284 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: go like catch a vibe, It's pretty hard to find 285 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: that in La like maybe Venice, but even then it's 286 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 4: so touch and go on whether there's actually going to 287 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 4: beat people out people just in their homes more, and 288 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: that makes it harder to just meet people out and about. 289 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: And also with the dating thing, it's just like I 290 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: find people are more flaky because it's the driving. You know, 291 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: if you match with someone on an app, if you 292 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: live in West Hollywood and they live in Venice. 293 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: No, it's not happening. That's a problem. It's done, didn't start, 294 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: never started. 295 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: I know my friend, my one of my best friends, 296 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: she was just telling me that on her first date 297 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: with her boyfriend, he drove an hour and a half. 298 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 299 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: I was like, man, I do like. I was like 300 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 4: that's insane, and he was like yeah, I looked at 301 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: my GPS and I was like, oh am I going 302 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: to cancel this date. And then he was like I 303 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: got to go. It's a setup. I got to go. 304 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: And now they've been dating like seriously for a couple 305 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 4: of years, but like an hour and a half. 306 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: No, And they moved in together probably after a week 307 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: because they're like three ways. 308 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: It's such a Greek walk. 309 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: Coming back to New York I'm shook by how quickly 310 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: people move in together because like, oh, it's. 311 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: Like six months and they're like, okay, well, I guess 312 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: we're on zil And I'm like, oh, why. 313 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Do you find? 314 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: Do you find that one city is the men in 315 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: one city are more commitment phobes than another. 316 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: I think that everywhere right now people are just having 317 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: an aversion to commitment. I think people are. 318 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: Do what do you chalk it up to? 319 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: I think just like the paradox of choice, like that 320 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: it feels like there's infinity hot people. It feels like 321 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: there's you can, you know, see a million hotties on 322 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: your phone every day. And you know, women are certainly 323 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: staying single longer. The stats are all showing us that 324 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: a record number of women over thirty are single and unmarried. 325 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: And so I think on the women's side, they're just 326 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: being a little bit more choosy about, you know, feeling 327 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: down with And I think also people are a little 328 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: bit like, you know, why why rush into it? 329 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 330 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: The things I have to talk to you because it's 331 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: very rare that I see anyone who's upbringing like life 332 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: beginningness looks like mine and yours does. Because I'm from England, 333 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: born and raised, and I went to my you know, 334 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: I went to all girls Catholic school and for a 335 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: little bit mascot and I moved here when I was nineteen. 336 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: And you were born here but lived there and moved 337 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: back to the Yeah, okay, yeah, when you were nineteen. 338 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: And do you miss home or do you consider home? 339 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's like I don't really think 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: of home home. I think of like where I grew up. 341 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: You know, it's just like my young chapter of my life, 342 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: all my childhood, and I do miss it sometimes. There 343 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: is a certain there's there's a certain vibe to London 344 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: and to British people in British culture that I really 345 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: really relate to, and that makes me feel very comfortable. 346 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: The humor, the sarcasm. 347 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: I love the humor and the sarcasm. 348 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's like it feels like a breath of 349 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: fresh air and it feels like, oh like every time 350 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: I've been in LA for too long, I'm like, I 351 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: need to go home and just like be with my 352 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: friends from high school. Oh like they just don't. I 353 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: don't know. There's like I'm generalizing hugely here, obviously with. 354 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: That that's what we're here for a little bit. 355 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: Less like vanity. And I'm like the most vain person, 356 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: so I can say that, but like they it feels 357 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: like they don't think about themselves as much as I 358 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: think about myself or something. And maybe that's the industry 359 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm in. I get that I'm an influencer. That's the 360 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: most vain. Yeah, you can have, but it's just a 361 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: little bit more chill. And you know, even like the 362 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: drinking culture. You can go to the pub and it's 363 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: not such a like it's not like blackout or or no. 364 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: It's just kind of like, oh, it's me to have 365 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: a drink and like, well chat. It just feels a 366 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: little bitter. 367 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of high stakes socializing, hot are in the Hamptons. 368 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: How did you know you were going to write a 369 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: book about the Hamptons because you. 370 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Went so this weekends sort of inspired it. 371 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: Well, it's so funny because that weekend that I went, 372 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: I hated it and I was like, I hate the 373 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: people here, like they're so snobby and the honest to 374 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: god truth is. Then I like became an influencer and 375 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: I made my own money, and then a couple of 376 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: years ago. I was able to rent my own house 377 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: and invite my friends for the month, and we did 378 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: what you did. We just holl up, we barbecue, it 379 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: came yard, We drink wine till three in the morning, 380 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: and like, we just have so much fun. And then 381 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: that's the right way to do it. If you go 382 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 4: as like a guest, knowing nothing and not having any 383 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: you know, it's just one of those places which I 384 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: hate to say, but it is. It's like a little bit. 385 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the locals would probably be be like 386 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: f you you know, it's a beautiful place all year 387 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: round for everybody, but I'm talking about the vacation Hampton. 388 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: The right way to do it is to just hang 389 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: with your people friends. Yeah, it's really fun and then 390 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: you kind of get to know what you like and 391 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: what you don't like. 392 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: So but there must have been something about it where 393 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: you're like, this is the backdrop because then you decided 394 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: to write a book. 395 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's you know, I used to do these 396 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: rich Mom starter packs and there, yes, I know the 397 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: content of oh yes, I know, you know wherever I 398 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: love rich Moms and all the you know, all the places, 399 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 4: and it just made sense for the first one to 400 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: be in the Hampton's. I have this whole idea for 401 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: a whole series where each book is going to be 402 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: in a new rich mom location. We're going to have 403 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: to badass heroin. We're going to explore a new fantasy, 404 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: and so it's kind of going to be like Slutty 405 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: White Lotus without the death. 406 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: I love a slutty White Lotus. 407 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: If I was a studio had, I'm like, that's all 408 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: I need to hear, slutt White Loadus. 409 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: So I think thought Hampton's made sense because I have 410 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 4: been spending more time there the past couple year just 411 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: with my friends. 412 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: And did you and have you hung out with Aaron 413 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: and Sarah when they've been in there? 414 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: Is that how you guys met? Did you meet socially 415 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: or did you meet through work? 416 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 4: You know? I think we met because I was on 417 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: their podcast a couple of years ago, and then we've 418 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: done a few things together like I did. 419 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense to me, by the way, because 420 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: I've known them both for a very long time. We're 421 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: talking about Sarah and Aaron Foster. I say this to 422 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: Kimilla all the time. Truly two of the most whips 423 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: smart like crazy. 424 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: You with and you don't. I mean, I don't know 425 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: about you. Maybe all the flower, but I don't see 426 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: it coming. 427 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the punchline's there and 428 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I have They're funny. 429 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 4: They're so funny, they're so smart, they're so on it, 430 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: and they just kind of get what people want. You 431 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: see it in every they do. You see it in 432 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 4: their clothing line, you see it in their podcast last year, 433 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: like they just get it. They really intuitively get it. 434 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: And I mean, it's a dream come ture. 435 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: I couldn't be beer such a perfect When does it 436 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: start filming. 437 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: We're still in the beginning stages. We're like interviewing writers now, 438 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: which is such a fun experience. Obviously it's all new 439 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: for me. But I'm loving every second and they're being 440 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: so teaching me and so I hope we can move fast. 441 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: But I'm I'm so excited. 442 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: It's so exciting. I cannot wait to worry. This is 443 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: like my cup of tea. 444 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: By the way, this is like I'm seated, I have 445 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: my glass of wine. 446 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: My kids they got a zip. Mommy's watching her like 447 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: tell me when it's on. 448 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm inspired by any movie or TV shows set 449 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 4: in the Hamptons because it's just fun to look at, Like, I. 450 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Know, do you remember when Sexist that he went to 451 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: the Hampton's and then who was it? The gut Crabs? 452 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the most did. And it's like, remember she's so flattered. 453 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: That they think she's young. 454 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, who is. 455 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: For your show? 456 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: Who would your dreamcasting be? And you can say Jessica 457 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: and Night That's fine, and then we can just. 458 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: Move on if we're too talking about due old. 459 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: We're due old have or not. I have a dreamcast 460 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: in my phone. I don't adjinx it, but like I'm 461 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: manifesting really hard. 462 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: Oh you should. Oh you know, by the way, with 463 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: manifesting something I just learned, you're probably gonna be like, hello, 464 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: just I already know this. 465 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: You're actually not meant to think about it over and 466 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: over and perseparate about it. 467 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: You're actually meant to think that's already happened. 468 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: No, I have it, it's happening. 469 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: It's done. You just haven't sent out the contract, So 470 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: I say it right now. 471 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: I'm just so that we can send the contracts out, 472 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: like I. 473 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Just ye, okay, great, good, great, well we will we'll 474 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: be in season two, since there will be one and 475 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: and or if you just need any. 476 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: Support, we're there. 477 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: We have to get on because you do ask me anything. Yeah, 478 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: that's what you're known for. And our Call It crew 479 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: were like, we got a million asked me anythings. We 480 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: got a million questions for you, and so they would 481 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: care if we didn't get to this. So we're going 482 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: to ask you some questions. 483 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: Diana ask how do you know when to give up 484 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: on a relationship. It's a great question. 485 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: That's tough. 486 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: I know there's not a box for that. 487 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 5: I know. 488 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: I think there's too many boxes. 489 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: I think that when you feel like there's no path forward, 490 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: like if you can't see a path, like if you 491 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: can't even imagine what it would take to move forward, 492 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 4: then you have to you have to leave, and you 493 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: have to advocate for your future happiness. I think, Like 494 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: another trick that I have is if you can't imagine 495 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 4: doing the next thing with them, So like if you're 496 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: dating casually being exclusive with them, if you can't, then 497 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: it's not your thing. If you're dating and you can't 498 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: see moving in with them or living with them at 499 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: some point, not your person. You have to be like 500 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 4: would I do the next step with them, and that's 501 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: like a good barometer for if there's a future. 502 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: Do you have like a little rule for for if 503 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: you've been with someone for like a really long time 504 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: and they have proposed yet, is there like you've hit 505 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: eight years, like, get the fuck out. 506 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 4: I don't really believe in ultimatums. I don't know though, 507 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: that is really hard. What do you guys think that. 508 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: I think that if you're at like eight years, I like, 509 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: I think you should and that's what you want. I 510 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: think there is like a little bit of a get 511 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: the fuck out. But I don't like ultimatums. I just 512 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: think that it's because I don't. 513 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Think you should be like proposer, I'm hitting out, you know. 514 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 4: I think it's ideally it's like you ideally you don't 515 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 4: get to that point. Ideally you're on the same page 516 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: and you know, and by you know, you're like, we're 517 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: working towards this. If you're eight years in and you 518 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: haven't had a conversation about it, that's on you as well. 519 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: You know, you've got to talk about it too before then. 520 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, sometimes I think you do have a conversation. 521 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: When guys are like just you know when it's right, 522 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: when it's when we're ready, and then it feels. 523 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Like a little bit of them. It's like, yeah, it's 524 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: it's not. 525 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: Very yeah, and he's just not that into you. 526 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly right. 527 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: When I graduated college and I came to Los Angeles, 528 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: I got a duplex in as one does, right near 529 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: Fairfax High. 530 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 531 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 532 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: And on the other side, I had like a single 533 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: dude that was dating a lot the first year or two, 534 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: and then the second year, this really cute couple moved in. 535 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: They'd just come from she'd come from New York and 536 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: he was in LA and he's a comedian, super funny, 537 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: and she was super funny. And he would go and 538 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: do consulting for sex and the City because they would 539 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: do the Writer's Room in Los Angeles, and we became 540 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: really good friends. And he would just always have great 541 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: one liners. And he is the guy who came up with, 542 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: oh well, he's just. 543 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: Not that idiot. 544 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: He's the one who, oh my live that in the 545 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: writer good claim the fame of his that's a really 546 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 4: good line. I mean, think about how people say that 547 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 4: all the freaking I mean all the time, and then. 548 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: They and then and then talk about how, you know, 549 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: figuring out how to scale it out. Before they were 550 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: talking about scaling things out, and all of a sudden 551 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: it you know, obviously it's struck such a nerve in 552 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: the show, and then they made it into a movie 553 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: because it's so. 554 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: You know why. 555 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: But I think it's struck a nerve and I think 556 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: it goes back to you and why. 557 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: I remember in the first time that I saw your videos. 558 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: It strikes a nerve when it's true, right, No, it does, 559 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the beautiful part of influencing. 560 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I agree. I think like most of the 561 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 4: time you just feel so crazy when you're dating, and 562 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: it's like if someone's just validating like you're not crazy, 563 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: that it's really good. 564 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Camilla says things all the time that I'm like, oh, yeah, 565 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: that's true. 566 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know everything I'm like I do, I 567 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: might be oracle for you, Jess. 568 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with this. 569 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: Carrie wants to know, Tanks, what would you tell your 570 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: eighteen year old self. 571 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: Oh, I would tell her not to worry and to 572 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 4: enjoy it and just take so many pictures and cherish 573 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: your youth and have fun and just don't worry it 574 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 4: all works out, like it really does. You just don't 575 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: need to feel the weight of the world on your 576 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: shoulders as a young as a young teen, you could 577 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: just kind of try to enjoy the ride a little 578 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: bit more. 579 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: I think that's true now for me, Like I just 580 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: gotta like, like enjoy the ride. 581 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm trying, but it's hard every day, Like hard I do. 582 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: I'm the same way. I'm like trying to remind myself 583 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 4: all the time, but it's hard. You get bogged down 584 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: hard work and stress and stuff and errands, and then 585 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: you're just like, I'm like, why am I taking myself 586 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 4: so seriously today? Like, oh my god, Like it's not 587 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 4: that deep tanks, but it's hard to click out of it. 588 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: It is. 589 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Rory wrote it and she said, I'm fifteen and 590 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: I really like a girl, but I'm scared to ask 591 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: her out. 592 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: What should I do? 593 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I think you should ask her out. 594 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 4: I think you go for it. I think you should 595 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 4: try it. There is it's this sooner you learn that 596 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: being rejected or someone saying, oh I don't want to 597 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 4: go out with you, it's not a failure. It doesn't matter. 598 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 4: It's just it's amazing to put out good energy in 599 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: the universe. And it's also so nice to tell someone 600 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 4: that you like them or you have a crush on them. 601 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: And the sooner you can learn that, the better, the 602 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: happier you'll be because it's so nice and it's little pressure, 603 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 4: it's little stakes. Either she says yes and that's great, 604 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: or she says no and that's also great, and you 605 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: move it on and you's it's all good either way. 606 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: So I say, ask great, I love that. 607 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 608 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 609 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: So Nicky says, my ex wants to go get sushi 610 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 3: with me. He said, it's friendly, but I don't know 611 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: what to do because I don't like him. 612 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: What do you think. 613 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: About the xes? First off, let's all be honest. This 614 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: fucking X wants to get back. 615 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: There's no like, let's just be buds, like you have 616 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: some sushi on. 617 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: He's done a tour, he's realized that he ain't that 618 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: much shore. You have to think about it that way. 619 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: You have to think no, no, no, this is great. 620 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 4: Be real with yourself because sometimes you're like, oh, like, 621 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: I'm so special. He's been thinking about me this whole time. No, 622 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 4: he got rejected on his last three tender dates and 623 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: now he's looking for something nice and easy and he 624 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 4: wants to get sushi with you. 625 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time. 626 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I didn't used to think I had anxiety, and now 627 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: I know I do. So Ashley has written in and 628 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: said one of the best ways to help anxiety question mark. 629 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: I think that therapy is amazing. I think everybody got 630 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: to talk to and just help process. I think journaling 631 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: is really helpful. Reading really helps me. Showering it really 632 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: does help. Like if you're having like you're feeling really 633 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: anxious and you're like, whoa, I'm like not feeling good, 634 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: take a shower, like it really does. They've proven it 635 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: resets your nervous system and you kind of feel a 636 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: little bit more calm after you take a shower. Making 637 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: sure you have good sleep, which is hard because usually 638 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: if you have anxiety, you can't sleep that well. But 639 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: if you have anything to make sure you're getting good sleep, 640 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: that will definitely help anxiety reduce. And honestly, like it's 641 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: all the kind of boring stuff that we don't like 642 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: to do, but it actually does help. Like going on 643 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: walks really helps as well. If you do all of 644 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: those basic things. It can really help. 645 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: I found putting my phone away actually really really helps 646 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: me too. 647 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like, dude, put your fucking phone away. 648 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: Just two hours, like a shower and then a two 649 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: hour away from your phone, you might start to feel 650 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: a little. 651 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: Works wonder crazy way we have the entire world and 652 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: every problem at our fingertips, and we wonder why we're 653 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: all freaking anxious the whole time. It's a lot. It's 654 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: bombarding us at all times, and you have to know 655 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: one to set boundaries and to be like I need 656 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: to put my phone away. 657 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 658 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Also self talk. I talk about this a little, but like, yeah, 659 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: really figuring out like you're always your own little party 660 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: of one. I used to think it was like so 661 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: crazy to have a meal alone, and now I'm like, 662 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: I love having, especially in New York City, a happy, happy, happy, 663 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: happy love a meal alone. 664 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 665 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just having like that relationship with yourself 666 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: one hundred. 667 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: It's so important. It's the most important relationship of all. 668 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 3: Ye Aila asks, how do you know when your standards 669 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: are too high? 670 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: Is that even possible question? I think it's possible. 671 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: It's a good question, though I think mine might be 672 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: too high. 673 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: This is really what you know. 674 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 4: I think, like you know, I think gut check is 675 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: if your friends are constantly being like you're that's a 676 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: crazy reason to dump someone, or may be more open. 677 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: You know that your friends know you really well and 678 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: they have your best interest at heart. So if they're 679 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: constantly saying, like, did you really dump that guy because 680 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: he wore a blue T shirt and not a green 681 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: turch T shirt. But then you're like, Okay, I need 682 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: to like check myself a little. But it's good to yourself. 683 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: It's good to have standards, and it's good to know 684 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: what are your non negotiables. I think that's another thing 685 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 4: that can help you is like pick your non negotiables. 686 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 4: Say this person has to be kind, they have to 687 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: be smart, and they have to like love their family. Okay, 688 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: those are the things that really matter to you and 689 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: everything else. Be a little bit more flexible on. 690 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: M I remember dating. 691 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 3: My big problem was like I could get picked so easily, 692 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, beyond like to the point where it 693 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: was like it was borderline offensive that I got aicked 694 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 3: by something like just the way they walked. Maybe in 695 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: like even if they like did like this is so mean. 696 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: I feel if they walked in like maybe tripped a 697 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: little bit, like it's over for me. 698 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I agree, I'm with you. 699 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, Lives asked, I want to be with someone, 700 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: but I also like being alone. 701 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: Am I broken? Or is there hope? 702 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: You're definitely not broken, definitely really healthy and normal to 703 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: want to spend time alone. I think it's really I 704 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 4: think it honestly makes you a better partner in the 705 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: long term because you are independent and you know your 706 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: likes and things, and you're not someone who's gonna cling 707 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 4: to someone or have an anxious attachment style like you 708 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: like it. To me, that means you like yourself when 709 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: you want to spend time alone. It means you have 710 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: a good relationship with yourself. Doesn't mean you're broken, doesn't 711 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: mean you're not going to find someone who loves you. 712 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: It means simply that you like yourself, which I would 713 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 4: argue means you're going to call in someone who is 714 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: even higher vibrational level. 715 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: Like really, yeah, I love that. I think that's so true. 716 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Susie said, I am starting over at fifty seven. 717 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm scared of dating and being alone. What should I do? 718 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: Would you recommend getting on a dating app. 719 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly would for especially for that age group. 720 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 4: I think it's a really effective way to meet people. 721 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: Do you have an app that you prefer? Are you 722 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: like not tender but this. 723 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. I think maybe Henja Bumble could 724 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 4: be good, But I think it's I think you should 725 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 4: view it as like an exciting new chapter, Like it 726 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 4: really is a new time where there are no limits 727 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 4: and you shouldn't be afraid just because you feel like, oh, 728 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: you have to start over again. It's it's a new chapter, 729 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: like it's a new era. It's so exciting. Life is short, 730 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: but it's also long, and there's so many different eras 731 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 4: that we all have, And I think that you should 732 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 4: go into it with a mentality of like I can't 733 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: wait to find out what happens, Like I get to 734 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 4: write this next chapter, and it's maybe I'll find someone, 735 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: and maybe I'll date around, and maybe I'll have experiences. 736 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: And it's a true period of unknown, which is so exciting. 737 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: Have you been on Riya is it? Rya raya Ryan? 738 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 4: I've been on it? 739 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: What is it? 740 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: Like? 741 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: It's been on everything I know. 742 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: I'm so curious because I feel like I missed the 743 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: app thing, maybe like it. 744 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: Was just like a game. 745 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 5: No, it's it's it's a it's it's a normal matching 746 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 5: dating app. I think that the problem with all dating 747 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 5: apps right now is that we just have like there's 748 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 5: so many and there's so many matches to be had, 749 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 5: and I feel like there's almost too many matches where 750 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, oh, you're not really dating with intention anymore. 751 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 5: You're just like on a million apps and you're just 752 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 5: like people don't even meet up, they just match to 753 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 5: match and then they're like, you know, but I have 754 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 5: heard that with like the age limits, like in an 755 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 5: because it's a different generation. In the like generation, they 756 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 5: have more success, right because it's like they don't have 757 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 5: the ghosting behavior, Like someone in a different generation wouldn't 758 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 5: be so rude as to just like drop off the 759 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 5: face of the planet and like not respond. So I 760 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 5: think that our fifty seven year old friend has a 761 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 5: really great shot, and I think it's it's exciting. 762 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: I love it. 763 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: I love that Sean asks what would be the best 764 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: way to get over trust issues. I'm assuming this is 765 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 3: probably in a relationship therapy. 766 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think, yeah, so important, and it can really 767 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: help you work through like why it was so hurtful, 768 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 4: and like what being betrayed meant to you, and like 769 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 4: how it hurt you. So I'm a big therapy advocate. 770 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: I think that yeah, getting. 771 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: BR two is the best. 772 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Gabby ass When do you think is an appropriate 773 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: time to ask if we want to move in together? 774 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people are probably had 775 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: that question. 776 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: I think that when you feel like you are getting right, 777 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: you're almost the point where you want to move in. 778 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 4: I think you should have a check in and be like, hey, 779 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 4: like I could see us, you know, when the lease 780 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: is up, I could see us moving in. I think 781 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of just being honest. Like I 782 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 4: don't believe in game. I don't believe in like timing 783 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: it out or whatever. Like if you feel like you 784 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 4: want to move in with someone your lease is coming up, 785 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: I think bring it up, Like, I don't think it 786 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 4: can hurt again if you're with the right person, even 787 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 4: if they're not ready to move in with you yet, 788 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 4: it won't matter. They'll just be like, oh, like I 789 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: love my apartment, I want to live with my roommate 790 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: for another year. But like I'm so into you and like, 791 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 4: let's keep doing this. Like with the right person, it 792 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 4: won't matter. So time to do it is when you 793 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 4: when you feel it. 794 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: This is hard for me because I'm thinking about me 795 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: when I was in my dating ears and if I 796 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: asked a guy if I was kind of ready, and 797 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: I asked again and he was like, yeah, what, I'm 798 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: not ready yet? Like I can't want to be, you know, 799 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 3: but like I like, what what's happening. 800 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: I know that I would spine, they'd be in a 801 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: different box, can move boxes. I don't know what it is, 802 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: but it would sour it for me, and I. 803 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: Totally get that. Yeah, and it's like, but that's also 804 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 4: important to. 805 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 2: Know it is. But I wonder. I wonder for someone. 806 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: Like me, I could sour it and if I'd get 807 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 3: sour on it, but then in a year, if I'd 808 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: just been more. 809 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: Chill, more way and chill, yeah, more weight, chill far 810 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: who you. 811 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 4: Are and you have to like honor who you are, 812 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 813 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, that might that might bring out 814 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: something in him. I mean, if you were like oo, 815 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: then it I mean, my gosh. 816 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: It's just we are living in this comfort. I mean 817 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: some people call it a comfort crisis. 818 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: I sort of enjoy all the comforts and I'm very 819 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: grateful for our evolution. 820 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't mind then I can get food at my house. 821 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: I love it is my favorite app. 822 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: Like it's sad comfort crisis. 823 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: We're not evolving. I was like, I don't think we're good. 824 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: I think we are, but I think that that then 825 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: you're reminded, Okay, great, I can get the I can 826 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: get the uber eats fast, but I can't get the 827 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: relationship fast. 828 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 2: And if I if I fuck up, and I got. 829 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: To go back and and have a do over and 830 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: repair and be like can I you know what I 831 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: said that? And I can feel your sour and I 832 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: actually love you. And here's why I don't want to 833 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: move in right now. They might not make you so sour, 834 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: Like I don't think that at the sliding doors moment 835 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: where like if you just waited and chilled, he would 836 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: have been the one or she would have been the one. 837 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 4: Right. 838 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: I think it is true. I agree with us. I 839 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 2: agree with this. I think it's like great, why don't 840 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: you earn it? 841 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's where I sit in and maybe it's 842 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: a fairy tale. 843 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I just think. 844 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: That I don't know, it's kind of like the old school, 845 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: like nothing, nothing that you really want comes to you 846 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: without having to work for it. 847 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 848 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you so much for being here. 849 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 4: So lovely and both so wonderful and so easy to 850 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 4: talk to. So I agree you too. 851 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm such a fan. I know we are. We were 852 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: so excited to have you. 853 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: And I also think that you know, as you as 854 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: you start this next part of your life, you're taking 855 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: this next step from creating content on one platform to another, 856 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: we are so rooting for you and we'll be along 857 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: for the ride and anytime you want to come back 858 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: and talk about yeah, the next. 859 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: Thing from out the show you do and your dreamcast. 860 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: I can't wait until oh my gosh, your dreamcast is 861 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: so lucky they got the part. 862 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 4: Thanks girl, I love it, appreciate it, appreciate it. Thanks 863 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 4: so much. I'll see you guys so much fun. 864 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: Dude, those kind of shows like The Perfect Couple, by 865 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: the way, that was like sort of set in that 866 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 3: same like nantuckety, like Camp Dinner, I. 867 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: Know, the summer, the summer, the summer vibes. 868 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like to me, it's like it's like one 869 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 3: of those summer books that you like, you know, take 870 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: to the beach, but it's on it. 871 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, my aunts used to always read them by the 872 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: pool while they were tuning. 873 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like that's my TV version of. 874 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: That, but I would always I think gotta be a 875 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: little naughty. Oh yeah, yeah, Well she was saying slutty 876 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: white lotus, but I was actually gonna insert I was 877 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: gonna go one step further and be like any little 878 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: and maybe a little corny. 879 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 3: Well it sounds like it's gonna be a little horny, 880 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 3: slutty and all the things. Yeah, and the Foster sisters 881 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: and they're gonna kill it. What a great collab. And 882 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 3: by the book, guys, by go buy Hotter and the 883 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: Hampton's it's a book already obviously that's what she's basing 884 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 3: it on. 885 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,959 Speaker 2: And uh and read it first. 886 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's call it the end of the episode. 887 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 4: M