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Speaker 2: It's bad for this The One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I new and improved intro to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a Wednesday edition of One Pills Live. A

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Speaker 1: crackstaff at it again, Steve, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 1: you as.

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Speaker 2: We roll on bday.

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Speaker 3: Brownie, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Yes' great for a seventy two year old, right, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm doing all right a good job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been follically challenged for the past twenty five years.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you take what you can get.

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Speaker 2: It's the look man.

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Speaker 1: It is also my broadcast partner, Eric Woods birthday today,

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Speaker 1: so both of you, yeah, the Bills radio team, we

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Speaker 1: share a birthday, so I made sure to wish Eric

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Speaker 1: would a happy birthday. Feel free to do that on

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Speaker 1: social media channels.

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Speaker 2: That is super creepy.

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Speaker 1: So it's creepy. I don't know if that's the word

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Speaker 1: I would have used. It's a big one for Eric.

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Speaker 1: It's the Big four.

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Speaker 2: Oho, you gouts wait It's like it's like Dan DeVito

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Speaker 2: to me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put the graphic up, guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you got it at the Ready Twins movie poster.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't. I gotta like that.

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Speaker 3: That is eight inches in height on Danny DeVito. He's four.

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Speaker 1: I think he's legally four to eleven, okay, and I

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Speaker 1: So we gotta we gotta dive into some free agency stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday it was all about the Dolphins, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to do that. I haven't been there yet.

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Speaker 1: Drink anything besides Guinness as far as beer.

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Speaker 2: Is, no just Guinness. We did. There's another. They have Harps,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to some bills notes, because there was

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Speaker 3: By the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: It's a one year deal worth three point five to

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Speaker 3: So Buffalo now.

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Speaker 2: He's not getting any playing time. But they like him.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: With the dearth of capable offensive tackle talent in this league.

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Speaker 1: Has no say in the matter.

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Speaker 1: He has no say other than signing the offer sheet.

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Speaker 3: I believe lessly out of the hat.

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Speaker 2: You're an absolute goner. Maybe they lost him to the Patriots. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So it's really interesting for vander Mark because this is

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Speaker 2: they sign it. They it's guaranteed he gets the money, right,

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Speaker 1: He's getting three point five two million dollars. The question

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Speaker 1: Bills have four days to decide on that. They're anywhere

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't think they would have Here's the reason.

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Speaker 1: Why I think they are probably going to match it.

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Speaker 1: They tendered him last week at the low tender level,

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Speaker 1: was no compensation tied to Van de Mark should they

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Speaker 2: Right, Like it might be a culture thing. And this

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Speaker 2: then the Bills could say you know what, there, you

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Speaker 2: we'll give you this much and we'll guarantee it, but

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Speaker 2: So there's nobody out there banging the door for vander Mark,

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's that much back and forth?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I think for a guy like vander

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL presented by Kaleida Health, and

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA Board of Representatives elected former union president and

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Speaker 2: He's he holds a labor relations degree from Cornell. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I won't hold it against him, but yeah, he played

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he is now in an important position. Well,

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Speaker 2: There's a lot in this relationship with the NFLPA and

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Speaker 1: So Treader was a surprise name because of what Steve

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Speaker 1: So it all came out with a very evident paper trail.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, a Chan was the guy. Yeah. Like I

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Speaker 2: said yesterday, I think the Dolphins will go oh and

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Speaker 2: six in the division this year.

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Speaker 1: Free agent cornerback cam Taylor Britt signed with the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Terms were not disclosed, but it's reportedly a one year contract.

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Speaker 1: The deal reunites Taylor Britt with Colt's defensive coordinator lou Anarumo,

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Speaker 1: who interviewed for the Bill's head coaching job earlier this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Ana Roumo was Taylor BRIT's defensive coordinator with the Bengals

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Speaker 1: until last season. I don't know what happened to Taylor Britt.

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Speaker 1: Like he was a really good player. He was their

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Speaker 1: number one corner for a few years and then last year,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know what happened to him.

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Speaker 1: By mid season, he was like a healthy scratch, and

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Speaker 1: then he comes back into the lineup, gets Liz Frank

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Speaker 1: injury and his season's over. Like it's crazy sometimes, how

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Speaker 1: some guys that you look at, that you see and

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Speaker 1: believe to be established starters in the league, something happens

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Speaker 1: with their game and all of a sudden they're not

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Speaker 1: even in a lineup.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in Cincinnati with their defense.

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Speaker 5: Though, yeah with Al Golden, Yeah, new coordinator, and you

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Speaker 5: know you had the best player, Trey Hendrickson Coasting doing

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Speaker 5: only what it took to get paid, get his you know,

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Speaker 5: get his paycheck.

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Speaker 2: Not yes, he was only there, so he he's only

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Speaker 2: there so he doesn't get fined for the entire season.

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Speaker 2: He's their best player. Joe Burrow goes down. I mean

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Speaker 2: it was it was a mess. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of off the field darkness in that locker room, you know.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things could conspire to make

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Speaker 2: a guy not have a great season or be a

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Speaker 2: healthy scratch.

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Speaker 3: Understood.

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Speaker 1: Topic of discussion for you today is pretty straightforward. We've

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Speaker 1: seen what the Bills have done thus far in free agency.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel the Bills have one big swing left

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Speaker 1: in them this off season to improve the roster. You

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Speaker 1: can hit us up at One Bills Live on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet that is on Twitter or x so hop

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Speaker 1: on there and send us your thoughts and we'll get

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Speaker 1: to some of your thoughts a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: On in the show.

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Speaker 2: We do have to take a break here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm going to run down a

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Speaker 1: list that NFL dot Com put together of what they

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Speaker 1: believe to be the ten best moves this off season.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say I've got a bone to pick with

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Speaker 1: at least two of them. I'm gonna run and by

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Speaker 1: Steve and see what he thinks, and what do you

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Speaker 1: think as well. We'll go over that list because the Bills,

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Speaker 1: i'll tell you right now, aren't on it, and I

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Speaker 1: think they should have been considered for at least one

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Speaker 1: of their moves to this point. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: next here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live. And as

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Speaker 1: I said before the break, NFL dot count put together

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Speaker 1: a list of what they believed to be the ten

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Speaker 1: best moves this off season.

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Speaker 3: Got a bone to.

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Speaker 1: Pick with a couple of them, but let's run down

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Speaker 1: the list, I will present them. I have not shown

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Speaker 1: this to Steve as I yet, so I want to

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts on what he feels does not belong

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Speaker 1: on this list and see if we sync up and agree.

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Speaker 1: Number ten, I'm gonna count down from ten to one.

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Speaker 1: Ten best moves according to NFL dot Com this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Number ten Pittsburgh trades for Michael Pittman. Number nine Patriots

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Speaker 1: sign Romeo Daubs. Number eight Saints sign running back Travis Ashan.

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Speaker 3: Which is how pronounced his name changed?

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Speaker 1: He said, he said that's how it's been pronounced all along,

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Speaker 1: but he gave up trying to correct people because everybody

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Speaker 1: was saying atn forever TN. Now he says, it's like

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Speaker 1: devon a chan, you say like a shan because it's French.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, just trying to honor how it's pronounced.

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Speaker 2: Is that because he moved to New Orleans all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden he's French.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a Cajun thing who knows he is from

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Speaker 1: down there by the way. Number seven, forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: signed Mike Evans. Number six Atlanta signs Tua. Number five

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Speaker 1: Miami signs Malik Willis number four, Tennessee signs John Franklin Myers, three,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City signs Kenneth Walker, two, Baltimore signs, Edge rusher

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson won the Rams trade for Trent McDuffie. Any

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Speaker 1: of those bother you being on a top ten list

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Speaker 1: for moves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how aside from the

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Speaker 2: expedients of a couple of them, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: they do for you. Atlanta and Tua. What's he gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: What are we look at? What are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: They believe that the analysis of NFL dot com is

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Speaker 1: they just need a guy to complete passes because Michael

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Speaker 1: Penix had trouble doing that.

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Speaker 2: He had accuracy issues. He also tore up.

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Speaker 1: His knee and didn't finish the season, but his inaccuracy

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Speaker 1: has NFL observers convinced that Tua and his high completion

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Speaker 1: rate will do wonders for the Atlanta offense, which has

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Speaker 1: a multitude of talent at the skill positions that I

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Speaker 1: will not argue. You got b Jon Robinson who's an

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Speaker 1: excellent receiver out of the backfield, Drake London in the slot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got some Kyle Pitts as your tight end who

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Speaker 1: was franchised. So they believe Tua, who was a career

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Speaker 1: sixty eight percent passer, will do wonders for that offense,

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Speaker 1: which is now being run by Kevin Stefanski and Tommy.

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Speaker 3: Reevez who came over from Cleveland. Okay, I just don't

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Speaker 3: know if it's one of the ten best moves.

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Speaker 2: Of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen a lot of Tua and Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel made Tua like a wet hand towel. He wrung

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Speaker 1: out every possible flop of production he could have out

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Speaker 1: of that guy. And I'm not convinced Stefanski he's gonna

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Speaker 1: do as well.

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Speaker 2: Here's on top ten to me top ten, it was

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Speaker 2: number five to me six. A top ten move in

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Speaker 2: the offseason is gonna have to be a have a

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Speaker 2: huge effect on your team.

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Speaker 1: This well, I guess they feel Panis won't be ready,

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Speaker 1: so Tua will be played.

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Speaker 2: This isn't even a hood ornament on that car. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is I mean this.

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Speaker 1: And we heard what one of the departing free agents

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Speaker 1: from Atlanta said on his way to Aaron.

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Speaker 3: He called it a clown show.

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Speaker 1: Now, granted that was the previous regime, previous GM. They

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Speaker 1: have new leadership now, so maybe it's different.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced. Meanwhile, ranked a spot ahead of that

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Speaker 1: was Miami signing Malik Willis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how you.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know how the two as

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Speaker 1: signings on the list number one. Maybe because it's for

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Speaker 1: dirt cheap.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the Miami Dolphins are paying all the money.

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Speaker 2: Here's my take on Malik Willis. And I think it

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Speaker 2: is important because they needed a guy and they needed

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Speaker 2: something that said some way of throwing camouflage on the

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Speaker 2: fact that they're tank in the season, signing the top

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Speaker 2: guy who is unknown, top unknown guy outside the draft.

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Speaker 2: Malik Willis tells them that. And plus the deal they

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Speaker 2: gave him gives them a window of two years. So

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Speaker 2: They're ultimate plan in Miami is for Malik Willis to

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Speaker 2: come in play well in a two and fifteen season.

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Speaker 1: How is that one of the best off because you

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Speaker 1: might have your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Why it's the best move? No, because they're not going

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Speaker 3: to have success.

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Speaker 2: You want him to be your You want him to

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Speaker 2: be your franchise quarterback for two years, be a bridge quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And then this after you go two and fifteen, you

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Speaker 2: can get the number one pick of the draft, and

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Speaker 2: whether it's Arch Manning or one of the other quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: that are coming out, you're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: have your pick. You got to get that right. Then

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Speaker 2: that guy can sit for a year while Malik plays

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Speaker 2: well again, and then late in the year pops a

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Speaker 2: hammy and your number one guy gets in late in

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Speaker 2: the year and starts to impress and you can make

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Speaker 2: the change. That's their plan. So I don't have a

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Speaker 2: problem with this at least it's at the top spot

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Speaker 2: on your roster to I mean, I know the tu

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Speaker 2: A thing as a quarterback as well.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I'm well, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people know where we stand on Toua.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of hoping he'd stay in the division.

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Speaker 2: The other one that the Jets should assigned to it.

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Speaker 2: The other one, Oh my god, God, should that give me.

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Speaker 1: Some I will say this the best part about two

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Speaker 1: ago into Atlanta playing in the NFC. South weather is

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Speaker 1: never going to be an issue, and he's gonna play

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Speaker 1: all of his home games indoors and plays another one

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Speaker 1: indoors on the road every year. In New Orleans and

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Speaker 1: then the other road games are Carolina and Tampa, like,

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Speaker 1: because we know how he performs in cold weather and

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Speaker 1: it ain't pretty.

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Speaker 2: That's horrible. He's it's not gonna go well for two

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Speaker 2: in the well. Actually, here's how it's gonna go. He's

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Speaker 2: not gonna play. He's not gonna he's only making one

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Speaker 2: point three from Atlanta. He's a he's not even you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a security blanket. He's he's a passable name. And

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Speaker 2: when they get him on the practice field, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be looking at him going put put a little zip

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Speaker 2: on this one. I did, what do you mean shows

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Speaker 2: your fastball?

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other one that I had an issue with was

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Speaker 1: Tennessee signing defensive lineman John Frankly Myers. I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of respect for John Frankly Myers game. Don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong. If the Bill signed him, I would have

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Speaker 1: been very excited. But John Franklin Myers is the third

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Speaker 1: best defensive lineman on the Titans.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: They have Jeffrey Simmons, who's gonna line up next to

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Speaker 1: him and probably make John Frankly Myers look better. And

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Speaker 1: they traded for Jermaine Johnson, So to put John Franklin

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Speaker 1: Myers acquisition number four in the league for best offseason moves.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Little Lofty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you though. That the Saints signing on

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Speaker 2: this list, The Saints signing Travis Ashan, that's not a

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Speaker 2: needle mover for me either. Good player, Yeah, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: with you. The Tango Ioloa Malik Willis of John Franklin Myers,

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Speaker 2: all these guys on the top ten, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm I think the I'm having a much harder time

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Speaker 2: getting my mind abound how all of those. Certainly the

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Speaker 2: Rams trading for Trent McDuffie, absolutely, that's that moves the

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Speaker 2: needle for anybody. Trent McDuffie's a dude, and they're playing

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Speaker 2: at corner in the league.

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Speaker 1: And and what was the Rams problem last year? They

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Speaker 1: couldn't get the defensive stop. They had the same problem

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Speaker 1: the Bills have.

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Speaker 2: Had, right, couldn't get the difference. And they not.

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Speaker 1: Only traded for Trent McDuffie, they turned around and side

650
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Speaker 1: signed Kansas City's other starting corner, Jalen Watson.

651
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Speaker 2: H Baltimore signing Trey Hendrickson awesome move. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a smart move by them. Trey Hendrickson is going to

653
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Speaker 2: be highly motivated. He's a little long in the tooth,

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Speaker 2: but and they're paying a premium for him. But they

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Speaker 2: didn't have to give two ones for him, just a

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Speaker 2: big contract. Kansas City and running back Kenneth Walker. I

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Speaker 2: don't know running backs, do they could?

658
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Speaker 1: I think what they're looking at there is they're saying

659
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Chiefs couldn't run the ball last year.

660
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: Could not run the ball.

661
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: And for a team that had pass protection issues, if

662
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: you can't run the ball, your defense is dead.

663
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: And that's why they didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: That and the fact that they lost the best quarterback

665
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: in football.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the season. It was like, what

667
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: was that week seventeen?

668
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Speaker 2: Week eighteen? Yeah, they were already out of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: these are obviously it's all a subjective list. I like

670
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: the fact that Pittsburgh traded for Michael Pittman from Indianapolis.

671
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: I thought it was crazy for Indianapolis to pick Pierce

672
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: over Pittman, but they did it. That's their move. They've

673
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: got a different opinion of mine. That's fine. They can

674
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: evaluate their players as they want. But the Pittsburgh is

675
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: still the problem is still who's gonna throw Pittman the ball?

676
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: That's a problem. I like their roster. I like words headed,

677
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: but they don't have a guy at the spot where

678
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: you need him most. So Michael Pittman doesn't move. I mean,

679
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: to me, the Steelers should have been all in on

680
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: Malik Willis could have worked.

681
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still somewhat of an unknown commodity.

682
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I think he has only fifteen touchdown passes in his career.

683
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: Well, Mike McCarthy's got his own way of doing things.

684
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna get you know, they might

685
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: reunite him and Aaron Okay or whatever, but that seems

686
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: that seems like it's a relationships that's been used up

687
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: a bridge too far. I've gotten new I've got no

688
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: energy for that relationship. So I'm you know, so I'm yeah,

689
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: these are I get it too, that the Bills, when

690
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: you throw the Bills into that mix, Yeah, aside from

691
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: each of being different, but if you throw both deals

692
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: in together, the DJ Moore trade and the and the

693
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb signing, Yeah, I like the Bills. I like

694
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: what the Bills did in comparison to this list. This

695
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: is just one of these teams too. I'm not two.

696
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: I think the dj More trade merits consideration on this

697
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: top ten list. I think I think it has the

698
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: chance to have a greater impact than anything Toua does

699
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and probably anything Malik Willis does on a

700
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: horrible team in Miami.

701
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: I just think it's gonna have a bigger impact. So

702
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: call me crazy, but.

703
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: Well, it may. It may be difficult for dj More

704
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: to move the needle in the big picture for the

705
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: Bills offense because the Bill's offense needles almost pegged out already.

706
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's they score all the time, But.

707
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: How much of the analysts for the last three years,

708
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: for the last two years said the Bills need a

709
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: number one guy outside. Now they get one, and nobody's

710
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: recognizing it like this, you can't like, what are you doing?

711
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways.

712
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a wait and see attitude

713
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: on the narrative around the Bills, because then nobody knows

714
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: exactly what they're gonna get with Joe Brady in this

715
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 2: offense and this defense with Jim Leonard, and there's still

716
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: too many question marks and unknowns and too much new

717
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: stuff going on here, uh to rely on the old stuff.

718
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: I think that's the narrative outside Buffalo. I could be wrong, though,

719
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: but I'm with you though it. Even if you don't

720
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: think DJ Moore is an elite, big time wide receiver,

721
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: you've got to acknowledge he's very good. And that's very

722
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: good is better than what they have been able to

723
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: find on their roster in the last couple of years.

724
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 2: So since they traded Steph, I don't it's it's gonna

725
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: be an interesting combination. We'll see how it works out.

726
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with you. I think that's that's a

727
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: move that emeritive more. I like this move by the

728
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: Bills more than I like the it'sburg trayed for Michael Pittman.

729
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the number two guy, not a number

730
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 3: one guy.

731
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. With you have a DK Metcalf already on the

732
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: roster over there, I just want ever, I think, Yeah, Well,

733
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: there we go. We're sour grapes here we go.

734
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: Do you feel the Big Bills have one big swing

735
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: left in them this offseason? They're approximately nine point seven

736
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: million under the cap right now, and as we know,

737
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: they made a big move to acquire DJ Moore. They

738
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: also made a big signing to sign Bradley Chubb. Everything

739
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: else has been pretty pedestrian in terms of contract size

740
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: to fill out the roster. So do you feel the

741
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: big The Bills have one more big swing left in

742
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: them to make their roster even better going forward. At

743
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: One Bills Live is where you give us your thoughts

744
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: and we will crack open the tweets sheet when we

745
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: return here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health.

746
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Speaker 1: All right, back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

747
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: Steve Task here before we get to your comments on.

748
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: The tweet sheet.

749
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, friend of the show from The Athletic, their

750
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: head draft analyst and a producer of The Beast, which

751
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: is one of the more comprehensive draft guides leading up

752
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft, usually comes out early April. He

753
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: said that he's heard a lot of positive feedback from

754
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: scouts on wide receiver Denzel Boston's pro day at the

755
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: University of Washington looked really good with his route work

756
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: in catching the ball three cone times six point eight,

757
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: which is pretty good for a six to four receiver.

758
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: Four to three shuttle time thirty seven and a half

759
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: inch vertical at two hundred and ten pounds, did not

760
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: run the forty. He's been projected as a four or

761
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: five to two guy, but some are now suspecting that

762
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: he's not running the forty because he's more of a

763
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: four to six guy.

764
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Speaker 2: So there you go.

765
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Speaker 1: We'll see how much that hurts him choosing not to run.

766
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: He was mocked to the Bills in the early going

767
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: late February, like when we were at the combine, he

768
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: was getting mocked to the Bills pretty consistently. But I

769
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: think the DJ Moore trade may have wiped him out

770
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: of consideration because he's going to go in the first

771
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: fifty picks probably right. And I don't see the Bills

772
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: taking a receiver at twenty six at this point, right.

773
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. He won't be there at

774
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Speaker 2: ninety one.

775
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: So but let's kick it over to the tweet sheet,

776
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, official equipment moving company.

777
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 3: To the Buffalo Bills.

778
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Speaker 1: Do the Bills have one more big swing left in

779
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: them this offseason? My thoughts Bills says, not a big swing,

780
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: but I think we get Milano back or sign Logan

781
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: Wilson for less. Not sure how they feel about the

782
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: current room, but definitely have some question marks. Still, so

783
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: my thoughts, Bill is looking for an off the ball linebacker.

784
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: I agree. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know about

785
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: that Matt Mulana or Logan Wilson or but it'll be

786
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: somebody like that. I think that will happen.

787
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Logan Wilson would be strictly a mike inside linebacker.

788
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: He's more of a throwback. He's more of a throwback.

789
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: He's kept like two hundred and forty five, two hundred

790
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds.

791
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: If he's the right kind of player, I don't care.

792
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if he's if he's got that

793
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: under the hood, bring him in. Let's see.

794
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: Also former college teammate of Won Josh Allen Well Chris

795
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: on the tweets sheet says, does the draft count if

796
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: they stay at their first round pick depending on who

797
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: falls to them. I could consider that a big swing.

798
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: It's only a big swing if they take the guy

799
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: I want them to. They take the guy. Otherwise, it's nothing.

800
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: Number one pick of the draft, yes, nothing. Number one

801
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: pick of the draft doesn't count as a big swing.

802
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: It's a swing they have to take. They don't have

803
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: a choice. Yeah, but I get it. Yeah, it's the

804
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: guy they take at twenty six. I mean, we're gonna

805
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: we will have spoking his spoken his name on the

806
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: air before that night. You know he will.

807
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Now, I remember, you felt strongly last year that the

808
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Bills were not going to stay.

809
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 2: Where they were.

810
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was wrong and they actually did stick

811
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: and pick. Yeah, you're like, I don't know if they're

812
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna move up. I don't know if they're gonna move down,

813
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: but they're not staying where they are.

814
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: Where was it twenty eight last year?

815
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

816
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: No, thirty twenty? Wait the AFC title game twenty eight?

817
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eighth, yeah, yes, because yes, So what was

818
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: it thirtieth? Yeah? I can't remember.

819
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: Maybe doesn't we know who it was?

820
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Max Harriston. Anyway, Uh, I am less inclined. To me,

821
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: I'm less inclined to make that statement this year, which

822
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: means they'll definitely move So I'm yeah, last year, I

823
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: was completely wrong. This year I was, I'm not gonna

824
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have a I don't have

825
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: a vibe yet. It's not close enough. I can't feel

826
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: a vibe in the building yet. But last year I

827
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: was positive they were gonna move, positive they were gonna move. Yeah,

828
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 2: they didn't.

829
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: They did not.

830
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: Some of the things we heard in I'm gonna I've

831
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: got it written on the white board. New England made

832
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: a big play last year to move up to the

833
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: third pick of the draft or thereabouts. And I've got

834
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: some of the the terms of the trades that were

835
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: proposed that were refused. It's startling what gout peat teams

836
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: are refusing when they get into these draft rooms. They

837
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: they get so focused on this guy, like this player,

838
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna make a difference. He's what we need, and

839
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: they forget that all the stuff, all the other draft

840
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: picks that they're trading to them are more valuable potentially,

841
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: and they just turn their nose up at these offers

842
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 2: from other teams that are just unbelievable. So I've got

843
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: some of that I'm gonna get to. We'll get into

844
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: as the draft gets closer. But some of these trades

845
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: that were refused and some of that were taken or

846
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's fascinating.

847
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: Seemingly lopsided.

848
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew says, I would like to see them bring

849
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: in Trevon Diggs. He's had his injury issues and he's

850
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: been on a couple of teams as if laid. But

851
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: now that we're in the second week of free agency,

852
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: maybe this guy can take a low number deal, low

853
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: number on.

854
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: A prove it deal.

855
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: I still say he's got a lot left in him.

856
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's happening. And here's why. The

857
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: first guy in line to try to get his brother,

858
00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs out of Buffalo was Trayvon Diggs. So maybe

859
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: he does not harbor any ill will towards the Bills organization.

860
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but knowing he was tweeting on social media, Bro.

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00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: You got to get out of Buffalo. Oh, we got

862
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: to get you out of Buffalo. I was like, seriously, yeah.

863
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Like he hasn't finished an entire season since twenty twenty

864
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Speaker 2: twenty two. Has twenty twenty three two two games in

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Speaker 2: twenty three, eleven games in twenty four, nine games in

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00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: twenty five, eight games in twenty five. Okay, okay, he

867
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: did play. He played the entire season in twenty five

868
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: because he was two different teams. What did he go?

869
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: Green Bay? Right, Dallas? Green Bay I don't know.

870
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

871
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Speaker 1: I don't know where I come down on him. He

872
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: had a huge season that led to a big payday

873
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: and then he tore his ACL and things haven't been

874
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: the same since. So wish him the best. I just

875
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: don't know if if the best spot.

876
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: For him running back is not a very big need

877
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: for corner corner, I'm sorry, corner not running back corner is.

878
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: It would be a depth piece.

879
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Of depth there, but I don't know if he's the

880
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: answer for the depth. I think he can still play.

881
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: If if he can still play, yeah, I'm fine with it.

882
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if they need the drama,

883
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: but yeah, at corner, at that position, corner, yeah, I'd

884
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: give it a look. He did. He played in the

885
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: playoff game last year for Green Bay. We'll see. I

886
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't know. I'm he's younger than Steph.

887
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: If he's a depth piece and bring him in on

888
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: the cheap contract, yeah, give mem a shot. I don't care.

889
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: He's been good in the past, but it's been a minute.

890
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: And that's probably why he's still out there right now.

891
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Injuries and lack of production of late doesn't take much

892
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: well to put you on the back burner in this league.

893
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: That's right. It could be anything. Could be just what

894
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: we it should be what we see at face value,

895
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: or it could be like the stuff you were talking about.

896
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: You know, he was on social media trying to, you know,

897
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: work a deal for his brother and the whole thing.

898
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: And there are relationships around the league where somebody makes

899
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: a call and says what about him and they and

900
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: they don't like what they hear, or could be vice versa.

901
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: Could be, yeah, he's great, but he just can't play anymore,

902
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, could be either one of those.

903
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole multitude of reasons, and everybody has

904
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: their reasons.

905
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: We have to step aside here.

906
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: But when we come back, we're gonna catch up with

907
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: another guy who's putting mock drafts out there like nobody's business.

908
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: It's Yahoo Sports NFL writer Charles McDonald going to talk

909
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: to him about his latest mock draft and who he

910
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: has mocked to the Bills. I may even give him

911
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: an opportunity to change the pic in light of recent

912
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: events here at One Bill's Drive.

913
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 3: But we'll see if he moves off it or sticks

914
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: with it.

915
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: When we return here. On One Bill's Love.

916
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: Uck Up Boys, We'll there what today. He is a

917
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: feast for the Capitol fiend. The cook is in the kitchen, looks.

918
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: Down the sideline.

919
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: He's got kick Kade for a twenty three yard touchdown

920
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: and it's intercepted. Jumping up in the air is bad

921
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: for these One Bills Live presented by calllighta Health all.

922
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 1: Right, Hour number two on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve

923
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Tasker with you and please to welcome in now Yahoo

924
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: Sports NFL writer Charles McDonald, who has one of his

925
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: out there guys already up to seven point oh on

926
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: the league, Mike, talk about ut in the times?

927
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: When did you start day after Christmas?

928
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: You're a goner man. Seven mocks, let's go.

929
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 6: This has actually become a running joke in my friend

930
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: group for the past couple of years.

931
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

932
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 6: You know, me and Nate Tice, we do the mock

933
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 6: drafts together over at Yahoo and we we you know,

934
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 6: I feel like we're not the only people who might

935
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 6: write a mocker two during the season, but we probably

936
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: are only people that are still counting those mocks into

937
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 6: the off season. So like seven one of those is

938
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 6: probably in October, so it's not like we're doing this

939
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 6: every week.

940
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: Not yet.

941
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I saw seven point Oh, I was like, wow,

942
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: where does that end? Eighteen twenty you might hit a

943
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: record seven. Yeah, But let's let's dive into it, because

944
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: I found your your pick for the Bills at twenty

945
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: six to be very interesting, especially in light of the

946
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: recent free agent acquisitions, which you noted. When you made

947
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: the pick of Emmanuel McNeil Warren the safety out of

948
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: Toledo for the Bills at twenty six, you acknowledge, Yeah,

949
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: I know they ad a Geno Stone, I know they

950
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: added CJ. Gardner Johnson, but I'm picking this guy for them.

951
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: Anyway.

952
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: What prompted you to go there when you could probably

953
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: make an argument for some other defensive positions for the Bills.

954
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 6: We actually okay, that was actually Nate's pick, But I

955
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 6: know I feel the same way as Nate because we

956
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 6: do like even the odds and there I know for

957
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 6: that one, because we did talk about that one, because

958
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 6: I found it interesting.

959
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: I think when you look at the bill secondary.

960
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 6: And also I would also say that pick is probably

961
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 6: a function of the drafts and kind of how like

962
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 6: our mock draft fell, because I think I think this

963
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: draft it gets kind of it gets a little spooky

964
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 6: around like pick twelve or thirteen, because I think there's

965
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 6: a big tier drop off and then there's probably gonna

966
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 6: be a run on edge rushers at the top. So

967
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 6: you're looking at guys who might not play like what

968
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 6: you think of as like I quote unquote valuable positions.

969
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 6: Like when you see Caleb Downs, like not be a

970
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 6: top two pick in the draft, even though he's one

971
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 6: of the best players in the in the country, is

972
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 6: just because he plays safety. And I think that, uh,

973
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 6: Emmanuel from a Toledo, he could be a guy that

974
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 6: falls down the board.

975
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 4: A little bit. I mean, I like his game, but he's.

976
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 6: Still like a class kind of like box safety, you know,

977
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 6: a big guy, uh that's gonna hit and play play

978
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 6: down and like you know, play those flats towards the

979
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 6: sidelines and kind of be that enforcer role. And Nate's

980
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 6: reasoning was, uh, you know, he's a Wisconsin guy, goes

981
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 6: back for a long time, been a Gym Laard fanatic

982
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 6: as long as I've known him, which have several years now, Uh,

983
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 6: and he could he thought that was just a good

984
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 6: fit for his defense and maybe a better fit than

985
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 6: what uh some of the players of Buffalo has on

986
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 6: their unit. And yeah, they did add guys like you know,

987
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 6: Garter Johnson, but that's just a stop gap.

988
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: Uh.

989
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 6: We'll see what happens with Cold Bishop this year. I

990
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 6: know he's probably looking to have a better year this

991
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 6: year than and maybe he did last year, or a

992
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 6: more consistent year. But they might not have like that

993
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 6: big safety enforce the role that uh, you know, Nate

994
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 6: says that, Uh, Jim Lenard is a big fan.

995
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, and one of the things about Jim Leonard,

996
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: they do put a lot on the plate of the

997
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: safeties and they need a guy there that and with

998
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: these you know, with the veterans they signed Genostone, CJ. Gardner, Johnson,

999
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: they've got some guys who've been around the block and

1000
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: kind of are aware of what's going to be on

1001
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: their plate. Gives a young player a chance to get

1002
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: up ramped up. But if you can get a guy

1003
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: in this draft that you can you know, foresee to

1004
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: put a you know, long future to get over the

1005
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: club at a spot you need, that's yeah, whether you

1006
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: need it or not, you may sign the guy and

1007
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: draft the guy in that spot. Another guy that's mentioned go.

1008
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: Ahead, I said you might.

1009
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 6: You might not meet him this year, but you probably

1010
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 6: will next year, you know, depending on on what moves

1011
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 6: you make or guys you don't resign. And we've seen

1012
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 6: like like the like the Eagles kind of incorporate strategies

1013
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 6: like this, especially in the offensive line, where you know,

1014
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 6: Jason Kelce he's got a few years left, but they

1015
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 6: still draft cam Dragons And I'm sit and uh, you know,

1016
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 6: kind of working in in there. So there's a little

1017
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 6: bit of a uh you know, we've already seen it

1018
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 6: happen at other positions, so I think this would make sense.

1019
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 6: And you can never have enough dbs, especially when you're

1020
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 6: talking about playing Drake May twice.

1021
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: Are you Are you seeing around the league team because

1022
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: most fans are a little bit less patient than that. Right,

1023
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: you got drafted guy in the first round, even if

1024
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: it is a twenty six pick, you kind of expect

1025
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: the guy to plug in. Right. Are more teams being

1026
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: more patient with guys outside the position of quarterback?

1027
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: Uh No, I don't think so.

1028
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 6: I feel like you're still just kind of dropping guys

1029
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 6: in and seeing and seeing who's the best and who

1030
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 6: can play.

1031
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: Uh.

1032
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 6: For the most part, I think it'd be interesting to

1033
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: kind of kind of do stuff like that. I can

1034
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 6: think of a handful of defensive lineman that can use,

1035
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: like just to sit here. If you look at like

1036
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 6: where Shamar Sewartt was for Cincinnati last year, and uh,

1037
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 6: you know, there are guys who come in to the

1038
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 6: Leak that aren't ready. But I still think for the

1039
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 6: most part, you're you're just throwing these guys to the world.

1040
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: It kind of I think at other positions it kind

1041
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 6: of takes. It takes a little bit more to be

1042
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 6: able to flex like that. Like when you look at

1043
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 6: the Eagles and what they've been doing on the offensive line, Well, yeah,

1044
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 6: it helps when you've got Lane Johnson and you've got

1045
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 6: Jason Kelcey, and you had man the guard they had

1046
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 6: from Houston, I can't remember his name. They signed over

1047
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 6: Brandon Brooks who was there and then they replaced him

1048
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 6: in Landon Dickerson.

1049
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: And you just kind of keep this machine moving.

1050
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 6: But you have to have those good players that are

1051
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: already there that can kind of hold the ford down

1052
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 6: while guys get better, which is a really tough thing

1053
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 6: to do. So I think you're probably just gonna see

1054
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 6: a team just say, all right, go out there, especially

1055
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 6: with all these receivers in the draft, you know, one

1056
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 6: of these guys has got to be good. That'll be

1057
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 6: interesting stout to see how that shakes out as well.

1058
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Charles, you mentioned that you know there's gonna be an

1059
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: edge rusher run probably somewhere between.

1060
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: Ten and twenty.

1061
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, you.

1062
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: Know, after you know the top flight guys off the board,

1063
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: like Bailey, But how many realistically fit in that range?

1064
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: Are we talking three four? I mean we've seen the

1065
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: knock on cash cashus Howell in his arm length. Yeah,

1066
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: there's a mixed bag of perception on our Mason Thomas,

1067
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: who some people feel could go anywhere from twenty.

1068
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: To thirty five.

1069
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: So there seems to be in that next tier a

1070
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: wide range of opinion. But what level of surprise would

1071
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: you have if the run on edge has like two

1072
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: spurts somewhere in ten to twenty. There's a run if

1073
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: you will, and then maybe the next tier could it

1074
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: drop in where the Bills are at twenty six?

1075
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1076
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 6: I was honestly thinking about that last week, that exact

1077
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 6: question when we were doing our mock draft last week.

1078
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 4: But what I would say Is.

1079
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 6: I think there will be a run after the first

1080
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 6: guys go off the board, because depending how you look

1081
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 6: at him, like you're talking about Rvel Reeves, David Bailey,

1082
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 6: Rubin Bain, those guys are obviously gonna be long gone

1083
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 6: before Buffalo picks. And then you're you're kind of in

1084
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 6: like like there's like a one and a half tier

1085
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 6: maybe where you're looking at guys at Keldrick Faulk if

1086
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 6: you look at as an edge rusher or King Messis

1087
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 6: or the other in Miami edge. What I've had trouble

1088
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 6: figure out is like who's the who's the one that

1089
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 6: kind of starts that second run because there there there's

1090
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 6: so many different opinions about this defensive line class uh

1091
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 6: this year, because you know, I'm someone who like I

1092
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 6: like Zion Young for Missouri, but I don't know if

1093
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 6: I'll take them in the first round of seeing Malki

1094
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 6: Lawrence from UCF get hype, t J. Parker from Clemson.

1095
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 6: You talk about cashiers, how our Mason Thomas. Uh, There's

1096
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 6: there's a lot to choose from it, and it's kind

1097
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 6: of like just pick your style, like what what.

1098
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 4: Do you need for your defense?

1099
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 6: You might be quote unquote reaching a little bit, But

1100
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 6: I'm not sure how many guys are are how many

1101
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 6: teams are going to have all that many first round grades.

1102
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 6: And we say that every year, but I think this

1103
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 6: year could be even a little bit worse. When you're

1104
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 6: just looking at strictly blue chip talent at the top,

1105
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 6: it's not you know, got one quarterback. You've got some

1106
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 6: tackles that are probably gonna come down maybe later at

1107
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 6: the bottom of the top ten, but true blue chip

1108
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 6: talents all you're going to be a handful, So it's

1109
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 6: really hard to pay, Like who will be that guy?

1110
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 6: Like a buffalo decides that they want to take an

1111
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 6: edge rusher at the bottom of the first round, you know,

1112
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 6: there's choices there. I'm not sure who they would pick,

1113
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 6: but I think who they decided they would take would

1114
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 6: definitely show a lot about their defense, because, like I said,

1115
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 6: there's kind of a little bit of flavor for everybody

1116
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 6: in that second edge group.

1117
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: I think, well, we've seen, you know, these the money positions,

1118
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, edge rushers, obviously quarterback, but the spot

1119
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: and you had the Bills taking a safety, which is

1120
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: usually not a money spot for a position. It's like

1121
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: wide receiver, edge quarterback. Talking about the Bills also are

1122
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: looking for a stand up off the ball mike linebacker,

1123
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: one of those guys that can be the green dot

1124
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: on his helmet, and at twenty six historically you might

1125
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: be able to get a really good one there. And

1126
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: you mentioned Allen in the Marcus maybe one of the

1127
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: other guys that would be available at that spot. Is

1128
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: there other guy other names we should watch for if

1129
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: the Bills do go a different direction. Uh.

1130
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 6: I think at linebacker, you're at that point, you're probably

1131
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 6: looking at two guys, uh, because obviously like Alva reesel

1132
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 6: be gone, Sonny styles belong gone.

1133
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: So I would say you're looking at c J.

1134
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 6: Allen from Georgia and then Anthony Hill from Texas. They're

1135
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 6: kind of like if you could put CJ's brain in

1136
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 6: Anthony's body, like that would be a top five pick

1137
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 6: because CJ. He like he he is the green dot

1138
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 6: guy for Georgia since he was a freshman, like he

1139
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 6: had he was so good as a freshman they had

1140
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 6: to tell seniors to get off out of here, go

1141
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 6: play at Kentucky for your last year.

1142
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 4: At senis who had started for a couple of years.

1143
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 6: Uh, and he locked down that spot pretty pretty much

1144
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 6: immediately from the time he was about eighteen.

1145
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: I'm biased the Georgia fan.

1146
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 6: Look, I'm gonna say, like, I love this guy, like

1147
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 6: I I would give him almost single handed credit for

1148
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 6: the reason that as to why they were able to

1149
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 6: be Auburn this year.

1150
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 4: Uh so, so that's my guy.

1151
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 6: But he's not not the fastest guy, you know, and

1152
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 6: I think that that's probably why you'll see him at

1153
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 6: uh maybe the bottom of the first round. But it's

1154
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 6: not like he's he's a total slout athletically. He just

1155
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 6: doesn't have like that high end speed. Maybe that makes

1156
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 6: you think, uh, this is going to be an All

1157
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 6: Pro player in the league. But uh just the smarts,

1158
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 6: the physicality, ability to play downhill and Mike tackles in space.

1159
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 6: It's just a really really strong player. And I think

1160
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 6: that this linebacker classes. It's kind of interesting because when

1161
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 6: you when you look at the league right now, how

1162
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 6: many like elite off ball linebackers are there, Because I

1163
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 6: could make the case that there's one and he broke

1164
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 6: his leg last year and Fred Warner because ro Quand

1165
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 6: Smith hasn't been the same for a couple of years.

1166
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: So Uh, those were.

1167
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 6: Kind of the two guys, and we haven't had anyone

1168
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 6: young kind of push their up their way.

1169
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: Into that sphere yet.

1170
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 6: But now I've been thinking, are these guys more valuable

1171
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 6: because we kind of been taught to think linebackers aren't

1172
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 6: valuab blah blah blah blah blah. But if no one

1173
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 6: has an elite one, you have a chance to get one.

1174
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 6: Doesn't that make that a little bit more valuable because

1175
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 6: you have an asset no one else has. And we

1176
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 6: see how good Fred is and how he can choke

1177
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 6: the middle of the field and also play the run

1178
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 6: like an elite guy still changes your defense. And the

1179
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 6: fact that we have, you know how again depends how

1180
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 6: you look at rvel Reese. We can have four guys

1181
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 6: go in the first round this year, that's kind of

1182
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 6: a big change from.

1183
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and with respect to c. J.

1184
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: Allen specifically, I would think in a three to four defense,

1185
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: which is what the Bills are switching out to, yeah,

1186
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: there's less ground to cover if he's the mic you

1187
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: know there, so you know, the gaps are fewer at

1188
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: the second level and he can just go run and

1189
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: hit and largely stay inside the tackle box.

1190
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: To a great degree.

1191
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Coverage might be a different subject. It almost seems that

1192
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: his value would be higher for the three to four

1193
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: team like the Bills.

1194
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: Who are you know moving to that scheme? Would you

1195
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: agree with that?

1196
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1197
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 6: And uh, you know that's uh, that's what what what

1198
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 6: Kirby has? You know, Kirby's kind of evolved his defense

1199
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 6: from more like when he was at Alabama, running a

1200
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 6: lot like peer three four. Now at Georgia they run

1201
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 6: more like tight stuff, which is bad for defensive lineman,

1202
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 6: but it's good for for defending those those crap offenses

1203
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 6: that you know been through out there every Saturday. But

1204
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 6: still like you're getting a lot of like three to

1205
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 6: five man surfaces, which is what you're looking at still

1206
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: in a three four defense. So like visually, it's kind

1207
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 6: of the same thing from from a linebacker perspective. Uh,

1208
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 6: and Kirby, you know, that's passed down from Saban, has

1209
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 6: passed down from Belichick, so you know, it's all part

1210
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 6: of the same tree, which is why I think you've

1211
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 6: seen you know, uh, you know some of these Georgia

1212
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 6: defenders they've been able to get going during their rookie

1213
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: contracts in the last few years, you know, we just

1214
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 6: saw n Kobe Dean and Craig Walker get paid, so uh,

1215
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 6: that's a that's a that's a good fit for them.

1216
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 6: I would love to see that fit, you know, because

1217
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 6: it's just also fun to think that Jim could get

1218
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 6: his enforcer you're one, and get your green doc guy,

1219
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 6: someone who's had those responsibilities for very smart st defense

1220
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 6: for the past few years.

1221
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 4: It's a really good fit.

1222
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 6: I guess the only the only thing maybe that gives

1223
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 6: you pause is the range and coverage. But you know,

1224
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 6: it's not so bad that like I'm not considering it

1225
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 6: as a first round pick.

1226
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's adequate.

1227
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 6: It's just not like, you know, Sonny Style is running

1228
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 6: a four four at two hundred and fifty pounds, Like, yeah,

1229
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 6: he's not.

1230
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: Back up right right. What are some the guys that

1231
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: you go down the list, if you go from the

1232
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: stand up linebacker back to the safety position, you got

1233
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: these got a lot of safeties at the combine impressed

1234
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: because of the speed. I mean, you got some bigger

1235
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: dudes running like Thinament, theeneman ran from Oregon. He looks

1236
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: like he'll still be on the board even if the

1237
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: Bills are picking and they do pick the you know

1238
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: the guy you said this, Emmanue McNeil Warren. How do

1239
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: you discern which guys are better when you've got all

1240
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: these safeties at the top of this draft who and

1241
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: some of whom tested better than maybe they were scouted

1242
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: before the combine?

1243
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was interesting, I because I've been, you know,

1244
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 6: thumbing through the safety class and I don't really feel

1245
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 6: all that different about these guys after the combine.

1246
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1247
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 6: It's more like sometimes you see a combine number you

1248
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 6: didn't expect and you got to take another pass real quick, like, Okay,

1249
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 6: you know, maybe you are you're a little you know,

1250
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 6: more ath like than I thought you were, but you're

1251
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 6: still not making like the plays that we want to

1252
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 6: see from an impact safety.

1253
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 4: And I think that this class.

1254
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 6: Is it's gonna be interesting to see like where Thienemen

1255
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 6: and Emmanuel McNeil warren go because the bottom apt like

1256
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 6: once you get past those guys personally personally, how I feel.

1257
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 6: I just think it's just it's just okay, you know,

1258
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if I see like too many long

1259
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 6: term starters here, and that could be wrong, but it

1260
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 6: feels like, you know, if you got downs who will

1261
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 6: you know, unless you do like a Holy Jones kind

1262
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 6: of trade, He's not gonna be a bill. The enemn

1263
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 6: is is kind of where you get into that range

1264
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 6: of where like I've heard he could go top I've

1265
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 6: heard if he could go like top twenty, I've heard

1266
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 6: top forty, so he could be there at twenty six.

1267
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 6: And obviously Manny mcmill Warren from Toledo is probably going

1268
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 6: to still be on the board in that rage. But

1269
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 6: once you get past that, you're you're probably taking a

1270
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 6: death guy. You know, some some people like like aj

1271
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 6: Halsey from LSU, Kamari Ramsey from USC has some fans.

1272
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 6: But I think those two guys and me and Warren

1273
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 6: have probably the best chance to become starters, which I

1274
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 6: think I think safety it kind of gets undervalued when

1275
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 6: we do like the contract stuff and we do the

1276
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 6: uh the draft stuff, because when you when it comes

1277
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 6: down to these are guys that are huge, huge contributors

1278
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 6: in today's game.

1279
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

1280
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 6: And obviously like the roles are gonna shift a little

1281
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 6: bit going from McDermott to Leonard, but still we know

1282
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 6: Leonard going from his time with the Jets, how big

1283
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 6: of a role he had with Rex and that's obviously

1284
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 6: a big, big influence on his defense now, So maybe

1285
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 6: they pick one, but I would say you got to

1286
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 6: take one of those two if you're aiming to get

1287
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 6: a starter in this draft.

1288
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: Last one for me, Charles, and you touched on this earlier,

1289
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: the fact that once again we have a dearth of

1290
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: round one grades in this class. There's probably only six

1291
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: to eight true blue Chippers, maybe twelve to fifteen with

1292
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: true first round grades, and the Bills once again are

1293
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: at the bottom of round one. So how likely do

1294
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: you think it might be that the Bills could just

1295
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: move out of round one altogether, especially knowing they don't

1296
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: have a second round pick after the Dj Moore trade.

1297
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.

1298
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 6: I still, you know, I still think there's room for

1299
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 6: for like to consider, you know, even just adding you know,

1300
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 6: another you know, maybe even the defensive tackle body. I

1301
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 6: know that that Dean Walker played well. I love watching

1302
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 6: at Kentucky. He had a nice spurts the end of

1303
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 6: the season. But there's some interesting guys like at the

1304
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 6: that that I like a lot that could possibly be

1305
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 6: on the board there at twenty six, like Caleb Banks

1306
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 6: from Florida that he is like my music here, and

1307
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 6: he's only played three games and he might be the

1308
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 6: worst tackler I've ever seen. But he's six six, three

1309
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 6: thirty and but and it's like like he it's crazy

1310
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 6: because he's he's one of those guys that he's six six,

1311
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 6: three thirty and he's like spinning against double teams. You know,

1312
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 6: his technique is perfect, like he's eating blocks, he's got

1313
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 6: good balance, and then he gets to the point where

1314
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 6: he has to make a tackle and it turns into

1315
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 6: like an INFO commercial or infomercial where you know, the

1316
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 6: guy's like spilling down with like a bucket of hoses

1317
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 6: and stuff down the stairs.

1318
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 4: Like why are you doing that?

1319
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Man?

1320
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: Just yeah, just fall on him.

1321
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 6: But I think it'll be interesting to see like what

1322
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 6: what gets value as terms like traits in this class,

1323
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 6: because like someone like Caleb Banks has a whole lot

1324
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 6: of athletic ability, you can kind of see it coming

1325
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 6: together with productions in there. Someone like Peter Woods from

1326
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 6: Clemson defensive tackle falls in the same spot. But those

1327
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 6: are guys where it's like if we if we can

1328
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 6: fix them, we might really.

1329
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 4: Have something here.

1330
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 6: And we're coaching it might be you know exactly no,

1331
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 6: because because I used to you know, in back in

1332
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 6: my heyday as a Baltimore County defensive line coach, uh

1333
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 6: in Maryland. You know, I started watching these guys like, man,

1334
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 6: we can teach him how to tackle?

1335
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, I.

1336
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 6: Can't tax that can cut on the diamond and spin

1337
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 6: backwards against the run and keep his leverage.

1338
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 4: We might be able to teach him how to tackle.

1339
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 6: And that's where it's gonna be interesting with this with

1340
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 6: this class, because there's a lot of guys that got

1341
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 6: good traits that you know, you could you could knock

1342
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 6: for several reasons. But someone's got to go on these picks,

1343
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens.

1344
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: Who's uh, who's your surprise pick of this draft? Do

1345
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: you have guy that either is going to be in

1346
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame after getting passed over by everybody

1347
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: six times? Or uh, what guy or do you has

1348
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: caught your eye that you think is going to continue

1349
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: to be out in your value but you really think

1350
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: at some point going to be a good pro.

1351
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 6: Undervalued. I was gonna say my guy Monroe Freeling from

1352
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 6: Georgia because I like last year after they lost a

1353
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 6: Notre Dame. I was like, this guy should not be

1354
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 6: anywhere near an SEC football field again in his life.

1355
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 6: And by the end of this season, he was probably

1356
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 6: the best player on offense talking right, right, right, so

1357
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 6: but it's right. So I'm not going to pick him,

1358
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 6: but I will. I'll give you two people, Max a

1359
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 6: Channel Horror from Arizona State. He is an offensive tackles.

1360
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 6: He's six six, three thirty big athlete. He's he's he's got,

1361
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 6: he's got an intry story because he's a red shirt senior.

1362
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: Uh.

1363
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 4: So he's a little bit older coming to his draft.

1364
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 4: But he didn't start.

1365
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 6: Playing football until Juco. Uh, you know, probably four or

1366
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 6: five years ago. So his first football experience was Juco

1367
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 6: and he didn't quit, which is really amazing because I

1368
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 6: can't imagine walking did Juco football and that's my first

1369
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 6: football experience. Like you're you're built a little bit different, bro. So, uh,

1370
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 6: he's made he's made a lot of progress. And if

1371
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 6: you watch his game against David Bailey, uh this past

1372
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 6: year Arizona say for sex attack, actually you know, held

1373
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 6: his own against David Bailey for for a good amount

1374
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 6: of that game. But I deep cut a player that

1375
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 6: I like this year, and I know I'm a lot

1376
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 6: higher on than most people's. Garrett us Meyer from LSU

1377
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 6: I had him at twenty eight on my big board.

1378
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 6: I think when he's healthy, you can you can see

1379
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 6: a starting quarterback there. And it kind of like popped

1380
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 6: to my brain when I was watching the Senior Bowl

1381
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 6: and he was the best quarterback on the field, you know,

1382
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 6: ripping the throws. And I know it's it's sanitized, it's

1383
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 6: a spring it's a you know, Senior Bowl game. But

1384
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 6: maybe go back and like, oh yeah, he was hurt

1385
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 6: for a good chunk of last year, and when you

1386
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 6: go back to the healthy games, like he still looked

1387
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 6: like someone who could who could be a first round pick.

1388
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 6: I like his peaks a little bit more than Ty Simpson.

1389
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 6: I don't know for we'll go in the first round,

1390
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 6: but Garrettusmeyer, I think he could be a starter at

1391
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 6: some point in your future.

1392
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: Coach's son too, right, I think he's.

1393
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 4: A coaches son. Yeah.

1394
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 3: Interesting, Charles, Thanks for the time.

1395
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: As always, We'll catch up with you down the line

1396
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the draft.

1397
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for the time today, Yes.

1398
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: Sir, appreciate that's yeah.

1399
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: Who sports NFL writer Charles McDonald kind of giving us

1400
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: some draft lowdown. We've been heavy on free agency and

1401
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: wanted to tap back into some of the draft and

1402
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: what the Bills could be facing a pick twenty six

1403
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: if they stay there and stick and pick. Of course,

1404
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: we also raise the possibility of moving out, which which

1405
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: I think could be a realistic possibility, especially if the

1406
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: board falls such a way where defensive talent that the

1407
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: Bills will undoubtedly be mining for there doesn't match the

1408
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: value of the pick. I'm just wondering how many suitors

1409
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: there are going to be to come up to twenty six,

1410
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Not as many, That's what

1411
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm That's my concern. You might not be able to

1412
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: get out of there, even if you want to.

1413
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: There's not going to be many. There's nothing. Yeah, they're

1414
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: gonna sit tight and still get the guy they want.

1415
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna feel like, you know what I mean.

1416
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh, they'll have a plan for twenty six yeah.

1417
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: Or an equal yeah, or an equally good player at

1418
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: another position. You know, They're just there's just gonna be

1419
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: too many guys available with that value that they don't

1420
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: need to move up to get one, you know, yeah,

1421
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: I just my vibe is now turning towards the Bills.

1422
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: There's no way the Bills are moving, which means they

1423
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: probably will.

1424
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you know that is.

1425
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: It's like me taking the plow off my GATORA. Yeah,

1426
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: four days too early.

1427
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: Hopefully their move has more success than yours.

1428
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: Correct, Gotta take a break here.

1429
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: We'll get back to your thoughts on the tweet sheet

1430
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: when we return. As we're asking you do the Bills

1431
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: have one more big swing left in them this offseason.

1432
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: Who tell us next that one Bill's Live presented by

1433
01:11:50,240 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: Colida Health. All right, back here, I want to Bills Live.

1434
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: Good conversation there with Charles McDonald about some draft possibilities

1435
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,440
Speaker 1: at twenty six for the Bills. I would be surprised

1436
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: if they take a safety there in light of the

1437
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: moves that they made, not saying they won't draft a safety.

1438
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm just might be a little surprised if they do

1439
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: it in round one and no decisions they've made this

1440
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: past week.

1441
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm kind of the thing where nothing really surprises me

1442
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: that they could take a safety. They could, And the

1443
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: one thing it would surprise me if they took a

1444
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: quarterback and a running back as well, unless Jeremiah Love

1445
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: falls to that. But that's the only one. Nothing's gonna

1446
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: surprise me, even an offensive lineman, plug and play guy.

1447
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: I think I think they're gonna take one of the

1448
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 2: positions we talk about all the time, linebackers, safety, edge corner.

1449
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: They could take a corner right there. They see the

1450
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: right guy. I like the guy that Charles McDonald you know,

1451
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 2: had falling to us, which was McNeil Warren. The reason

1452
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,520
Speaker 2: is the guy's six', four he's, big he's he's got, traits.

1453
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: He's not quite nick emun, worry but he's similar.

1454
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: Right and that's where you would see. Him that's where

1455
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: you'd see the. Desire dude's. Big so we'll, see we'll.

1456
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: See yeah that none of that surprises, me AND i

1457
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: think they're all on the, table even wide out.

1458
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: Uh on the tweetsheet where we are asking you, today

1459
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: do you think The bills have one more big swing

1460
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: left in them this? Offseason Go bill Says bean has

1461
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: not had a big swing since Von miller And digs before.

1462
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: Him if that's even considered, big that's my. Opinion big

1463
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: swings can be different to. OTHERS i do not Count

1464
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: chubb Or moore as a big. SWING i kind of

1465
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: thought more was a big swing.

1466
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: Because of what he.

1467
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: REPRESENTS i, mean he represents a number one wide. Receiver

1468
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: he represents an addition at the top of your receiver pecking.

1469
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: Order that's a big, swing and the cost commitment for

1470
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: the next three years is.

1471
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: Big he it's a big.

1472
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: Swing, yeah it, IS i think for an offense that

1473
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: was as prolific as The bills has been over the

1474
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: last three or four, years and yet last year included

1475
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: putting a guy at the top of the, pack and he.

1476
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: DOES Dj moore goes right up above you, Know Khalil,

1477
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: Shakir he's up there With, Kinkaid he's right. There he's

1478
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 2: going to get. Targeted if he plays all seventeen, games

1479
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: he's going to get targeted a hundred, times over one hundred.

1480
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: Times and that's a big swing to. Me a guy

1481
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: who's going to command that much attention in the offense

1482
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: because he is going to get plugged in and he's

1483
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: gonna he's going to attract a lot of targets and

1484
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: that's that's what the whole that's what it's about for

1485
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: a wide.

1486
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 3: Out, yeah hard to argue with.

1487
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: That SO i.

1488
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: DON'T i Mean Stefan. Diggs they traded what a, one a,

1489
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: four and a Six IF i remember, Right bill's traded a,

1490
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: two got a five. BACK i don't know that it

1491
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,480
Speaker 1: was a big move because of what more basically represents

1492
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: everything That Stefan digs represented a number one wide receiver

1493
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: for your.

1494
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: Offense to, me that's a big.

1495
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: Swing, yeah we'll respectfully disagree on, That william on the,

1496
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: tweets she, says with our current cap, SITUATION i don't

1497
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: believe we have the room to make a big, splash

1498
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: BUT i think there is value still in the second

1499
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: wave of free, agency such As Kalei As, Campbell Hassan,

1500
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: reddick AND Dj. Reader, Yeah i'd be on board to

1501
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: Bring reader. In just somebody to be the tip of

1502
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: the spear on that run, front And reader has been

1503
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: that for the better part of the last nine. SEASONS

1504
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: i know he's thirty one years, old but dude can

1505
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: still stand in there and. Grind he is a, Problem

1506
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: So i'd be in favor of. That Hassan, Reddick i'm

1507
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: kind of luke warmon went To Tampa bay last year

1508
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: after his grumblings with The jets didn't really do, much

1509
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: didn't get on the field a. Lot And i've Heard

1510
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: Kalais campbell is not a fan of playing in cold.

1511
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: Weather and at his age thirty, NINE i guess you,

1512
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: know the joints like a little creaky in cold.

1513
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: Weather, Listen Kalais campbell is a freak of. Nature he's

1514
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: six feet. Eight he was part of the legion Of. Boom. What,

1515
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: yeah he was, back part of the legion Of boom In.

1516
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: Seattle boom In, Seattle Kalayas, Campbell, yes and then took

1517
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: it off and went around the league and. Stuff so he.

1518
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: Was he is a he has been a dominant. PLAYER

1519
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 2: i don't think he ever played For. SEATTLE i don't.

1520
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: Know check it.

1521
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: Out i'm checking it out right. Now check.

1522
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: Out tell Me i'm, wrong BECAUSE i might.

1523
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: Be he had two stints In arizona way.

1524
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: Back, yeah it.

1525
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 3: Didn't never played for.

1526
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: Se, NO i thought he.

1527
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: Did arizona is where he started his, career played there

1528
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 3: the first.

1529
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: Eight years after where'd you go?

1530
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: From Areas jacksonville for three, Years baltimore for three, Years, Atlanta,

1531
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: miami back To.

1532
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 2: Arizona, GOSH i thought he was part of the legion of.

1533
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: MOM i went all the way back to that AND

1534
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: i are you?

1535
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Serious, yeah, No Khalis campbell, right, anyway you must have

1536
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: him confused with some must be there's a lot of

1537
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: THINGS i, Confused But Kalais campbell is gonna he probably

1538
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: will play this.

1539
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: Year he's. Unbelievable he's he's one of the biggest freaking.

1540
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 2: Nature he's one of the biggest human Beings i've ever you,

1541
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: know been in the presence. Of and he's in a

1542
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: tremendous human being too great teammate one of those. Guys

1543
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: so people want him or teams want him. Around so it's,

1544
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: YEAH i get. It those guys wouldn't be big, swings

1545
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: but they'd be notable For.

1546
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: YEAH i just it'll be interesting to see what happens.

1547
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: THERE i don't know if those, GUYS i would, say

1548
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,919
Speaker 1: of those three players that we're mentioned there By, WILLIAM

1549
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: i would THINK Dj reader is probably the most likely

1550
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: of the.

1551
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,879
Speaker 3: Three but how likely, overall right are to Say.

1552
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: Bobby's still out? There it's bothering me that he never

1553
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 2: played for the YATLE.

1554
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of a defensive lineman you

1555
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: might have been thinking of.

1556
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: Instead don't try and get inside my. Mind where when it's,

1557
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 2: okay that's a black. Hole.

1558
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: YEAH jp seventeen, says. Doubtful The bills take another big,

1559
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: swing a couple of depth, signings and then we have

1560
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: to have the cap space for the draft class and

1561
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: eventually injury. SIGNINGS jp seventeen's right about. That got to

1562
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: be nine to eleven million under the cap for all,

1563
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: that and that's where they are right. Now nine point

1564
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: seven might even be a restructure or two still out,

1565
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: there but the bank's kind of empty for Large, yes

1566
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 1: like the vocabulary for j uh, yeah, YEAH i would find.

1567
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: It i'd be, surprising and they'd have to choose jump

1568
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: through some, hoops no question about. It you've seen you've

1569
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: seen him do. IT i mean they when they were

1570
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: almost in this exact same spot when they Signed. Vaughan

1571
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: so they can make it. Happen but there that. Cost but,

1572
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 2: yes they're going to push a lot of stuff down the.

1573
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: Road neil, says if we were to make one more big,

1574
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: Swing i'd say it would be trading away a player

1575
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: for more draft, capital try to get some get back

1576
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: some that we, lost to get those middle rounds where

1577
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: the meat and potatoes of the draft, is who do

1578
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: you think we could trade for.

1579
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:44,799
Speaker 2: It, yeah.

1580
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: That's how you create cap space at this. Point it's

1581
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: one way to do. It you trade away a player

1582
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: that's commanding a high salary that you know maybe he's

1583
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: not an ideal fit in your, defense your new defensive.

1584
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 3: System or something of that. Nature, yes spitball.

1585
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: And the the problem is you have to find a

1586
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: team with the space to take what you're trying to

1587
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: get rid, of.

1588
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: And at this, point a lot of that space is.

1589
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: Drying that's a Small that list is a very small

1590
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: that's a very small list of. Teams you're talking about

1591
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: teams with like say thirty million or more in camp cap.

1592
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: Space it Goes, Pittsburgh, baltimore The, Rams, Indianapolis New, England San, Francisco, Seattle, Philly.

1593
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: Arizona there's like there's, yeah there's thirteen. Teams it's not

1594
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: even half the league that have the space to do.

1595
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: That then you have to go and ask. Them you're

1596
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 2: not gonna do business with The, Jets you're not gonna

1597
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 2: do business With New. England so there's eleven, teams you.

1598
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: Know then you Go, tennessee The, chargers some of these, Teams,

1599
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: indianapolis some of these teams wouldn't do business With Pittsburgh.

1600
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 2: Baltimore it's a smaller list than you think of teams

1601
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: that would be in a position to really make a

1602
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 2: move like, that to take on some capspace and what

1603
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: are you going to? Get? Right what are you going to?

1604
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: Get But neil is.

1605
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: Right the meat and potatoes of this draft is largely

1606
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: considered to be between rounds two and, four and right,

1607
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: now The bills have only two picks. There dolphins have

1608
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: three third round or four third. Rounders jets have a

1609
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: multitude of middle round. Picks so do The bills want

1610
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: to get in on that. Party to do, that they

1611
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: would have to move back from their pick at twenty.

1612
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: Six and that's WHY i think if they don't like

1613
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: the value they see, THERE i could easily see them sliding.

1614
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: Back and if you slide back to like the early

1615
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: to mid, forties you could get a two and a three.

1616
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 1: Back so now you have a two and two threes

1617
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 1: and your fourth round. Pick so now basically between thirty

1618
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: five and one twenty, five.

1619
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: You're picking three times.

1620
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: If you can get somebody say yes to, that.

1621
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 3: Or four times you're picking four.

1622
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: Times what? If what if the team THAT i Might

1623
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: i'm just being you're being devil's advocate. HERE i know

1624
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: what if that team Is chicago Or, Seattle, philly you,

1625
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 2: know Or jacksonville or one of these that their draft

1626
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: picks are going to be at the bottom of those, rounds.

1627
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: Well THEN i need a little bit more from.

1628
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 2: Them, no there you. Go so any of these teams

1629
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: that were in the playoff last, year they're gonna Be i'm.

1630
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: Used to picking, there but you're gonna have to sweeten

1631
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: the pot to get me to pull the.

1632
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 3: Trigger so you got somebody to cover it up here who's.

1633
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: Still on the, board and you want to get him,

1634
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: now you may have to flip me an extra six

1635
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: to get it done.

1636
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:58,480
Speaker 2: Right none of those, teams Well philly maybe In, seattle

1637
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 2: they've got. Enough they've got enough. Room they've got forty

1638
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: million and thirty nine, million, Respectively but they're going to

1639
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: be picking at the bottom of that. Round they've got

1640
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: the cap space to take one of your players on

1641
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: that you could give him throw them in there.

1642
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: WITH i wouldn't rule out a player trade if it's

1643
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: bringing back the right kind of. Compensation but you have

1644
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: to feel better about the talent pool and the draft

1645
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: than the player currently on your roster to even entertain doing.

1646
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: That AND i don't know if they're choosing to live

1647
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: there or even consider living, there because as soon as

1648
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: they started restructuring some, guys to, me that's a signal

1649
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: that those players aren't going, anywhere at least for this.

1650
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: Year so you're talking About Dawson knox with a three,

1651
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: new three year deal At oliver with a restructured.

1652
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: Contract we Know josh, restructured he's going.

1653
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 2: To be here.

1654
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Forever but once you see a move like, that it

1655
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 1: tends to end decate they're gonna be, here at least

1656
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: for this. Year you're not jumping through all those financial

1657
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: hoops to move the, guy you know WHAT i, mean,

1658
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: Right you did it to make his cap figure more

1659
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: palatable this year and to help your team do more

1660
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: business this. Year, well if you're gonna go through all

1661
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: that and ask the guy to it's.

1662
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Aquiesced it's hard to get the football side of an

1663
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: organization to say goodbye to a guy like A Dawson,

1664
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: knox for a guy that's, unknown no matter how good

1665
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: he looks in the, draft and particularly for a, guy let's,

1666
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 2: say if It's Dawson knock's a tight, end offensive, weapon

1667
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: that kind of guy for a defensive, player you, know

1668
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: so you're you, know it's plus over here minus over

1669
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: there on that side of the. Ball the money's gonna

1670
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: work for the other team because you just fixed his

1671
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 2: cap number and you don't gain that much on the

1672
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: cap by letting him. Go but you're gonna get this

1673
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,440
Speaker 2: other pick, that or maybe even two picks. That maybe

1674
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a. Guy i'm gonna, say, know you, know,

1675
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: coach you don't want To they ain't gonna Let they're

1676
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: not gonna let what they know and.

1677
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 3: Trust a bird in the hand versus two in the.

1678
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: Bush, yeah they're not gonna let go of a guy

1679
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: they know who's got a track record and he's in

1680
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: your building and they're not gonna let him go for

1681
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: two jamokes that that might not even be on the

1682
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: board when you get, there, Right.

1683
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: You can't get these deals, done, Man well they're. Not

1684
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: the coaches aren't always pulling the. Strings so we should

1685
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: make a note of. That but, YES i know what you're.

1686
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Saying gotta take a break here when we come. Back

1687
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweet, sheet and there's an

1688
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: update on a draft prospect at the receiver position who's

1689
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: coming back for AN acl. Injury we'll update you next

1690
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: here on One Pills live presented by Coll out Of.

1691
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: Health some final thoughts on the tweets sheet here on

1692
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: a win as we're asking if you think The bills

1693
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,520
Speaker 1: have one more big swing in them here this offseason

1694
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: for player. Acquisition scott, says the swing THAT i would

1695
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: like to see is If bean can make it. Work

1696
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: is Signing. Deebo Samuel diebo would add another wrinkle to the,

1697
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: offense make it harder to defend opposing make it harder

1698
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: to defend for opposing. Defenses, Yeah debo In washington last

1699
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: year got a little nicked. Up he's had injuries through

1700
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 1: the course of his. Career he plays a very physical

1701
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: brand of, football you, know and now pushing age, THIRTY

1702
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: i don't know if he's quite the dynamic guy that

1703
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: he used to. Be he's got a lot of miles

1704
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: on the tires as we. KNOW i do know That

1705
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: Brandon bean loved him coming.

1706
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 2: Out debo has been on the radar For bills fans

1707
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 2: ever Since josh blossomed and he got and he put

1708
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 2: himself on the radar in you, know in his career

1709
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: because he's a versatile kind of. Weapon hand it off to,

1710
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 2: Him line him up in the, backfield line him up

1711
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: in the, slot line him up, wide hand it to,

1712
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: Him toss it to. Him he's one of those guys

1713
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,919
Speaker 2: that just seems like a shiny toy for your quarterback

1714
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: to get the ball. To however he CAN i get

1715
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,879
Speaker 2: It and sooner or, Later deebo might be A buffalo

1716
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: bill because you know that kind of stuff tends to

1717
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: happen when he got a quarterback Like, josh get him

1718
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: something that they can use in every different way you can. Imagine,

1719
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: yeah and now that's your head, coach and now that

1720
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: your head coach is the offensive, coordinator maybe it's more.

1721
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Likely last year started twelve, games played in sixteen seventy two,

1722
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: receptions seven hundred and twenty seven, yards five.

1723
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,919
Speaker 3: Touchdowns the last.

1724
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: Three years fifteen, games fifteen, games sixteen, Games so.

1725
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 3: Healthier THAN i initially.

1726
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: Anticipated, eh he does get, nicked but he'll play through.

1727
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: It so tough as, nails dude, Too and he's a football,

1728
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: player you know WHAT i. Mean and that sounds crazy to,

1729
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: say but you know how the realization that the guy

1730
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: could do a lot of things that help you.

1731
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Win kevin, says just need to Sign Brandon. Cooks not

1732
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: a big, win just a good. Decision and he was

1733
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: a field stretcher when they signed.

1734
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Him he helped in that. Area he helped. Him man

1735
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: when he got on the, field he helped, him no.

1736
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 2: QUESTION i get. It there is draft News Steve.

1737
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: Louisville wide Receiver Chris, bell who was widely considered a

1738
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: top twenty pick before AN acl injury In, november is

1739
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 1: progressing ahead of schedule and is now running and jumping

1740
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: six two two twenty five in. GAME gps had him

1741
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: at four to three in terms of his, speed low

1742
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: four threes at that. SIZE i saw him at the.

1743
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Combine he is a big. Kit he was standing there

1744
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 1: at the. Lectern he is broad, shouldered he is muscled.

1745
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Up if he runs that, fast that's a heck of a.

1746
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Combination but he's not going to be able to play right.

1747
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: Away Huh, november there's, well he had THE acl In,

1748
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: november so you go nine to twelve.

1749
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: Months do the.

1750
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 3: Math you're Talking july.

1751
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: And we're training candle, window we're trying to HIT i get.

1752
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: It that's it for us, today. Though enjoy The march.

1753
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Madness if you're going here In Buffalo.

1754
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: Brown he's not like. Me he's gonna be watching.

1755
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: Food steve's holding down The ford On thursday And. Friday

1756
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: i'll catch you next. Week but he's carrying it through free.

1757
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 3: Agency you'll see At won tomorrow