Speaker 1: To on remove dallin deep speedles peas do.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: He's got my ad hands in the playoffs. What is up,
Speaker 2: Dolph Fans? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I
Speaker 2: am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show we
Speaker 2: have another combine recap of sorts for you guys.
Speaker 1: On the episode, we'll.
Speaker 2: Talk about the workouts that happened on the field, plus
Speaker 2: some gibber jabber from around the NFL media landscape, and
Speaker 2: a heck of a lot more from the Baptist Health Studios.
Speaker 2: We're back home inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This
Speaker 2: is the Draft Time Podcast by day. So we're back
Speaker 2: home from Indianapolis. And first off, it was great, it
Speaker 2: always is. I just think the connectedness, if that's a word,
Speaker 2: of the downtown area in Indy is what a city
Speaker 2: is supposed to be, almost like European in its style,
Speaker 2: because in America and South Florida especially, everything is like
Speaker 2: a half hour drive. Right If you venture into Miami
Speaker 2: itself and you're not a proward boy like I am,
Speaker 2: and you go into that traffic.
Speaker 1: It's at least an hour long commute no matter where
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: But everything in Indy is close, and there are sky
Speaker 2: bridges and indoor walkways that prevent you from having to
Speaker 2: bear the cold weather too much. Now, that wouldn't have
Speaker 2: mattered one iota on Tuesday when it was a record
Speaker 2: high sixty five degrees on a February twenty eighth, I
Speaker 2: believe was that day in Indianapolis. Then a overnight massive
Speaker 2: windstorm pushes in thirty degree temperatures with a consistent fifteen
Speaker 2: mile per hour wind and gusts up to thirty miles
Speaker 2: per hour. And the only part that required outside for
Speaker 2: me and JT are a great videographer. Here is our
Speaker 2: walk from our hotel to the convention center, and it
Speaker 2: was literally a quarter mile, but lugging some gear in
Speaker 2: those temperatures and those winds who buddy the humidity down
Speaker 2: here is so many things right, and we think often
Speaker 2: negatively about that. But I'll tell you this, if you
Speaker 2: haven't left South Florida in sometime and gone to a
Speaker 2: cold weather environment, the way your skin dries out, my goodness,
Speaker 2: my knuckles were like getting cracked by the end of it,
Speaker 2: is that.
Speaker 1: Why South Florida is home to so many beautiful folks.
Speaker 2: I tend to think it is that the sunshine tends
Speaker 2: to invite, you know, different type of clothing that requires
Speaker 2: different type of bodies. Right, But I digress from all that.
Speaker 2: Speaking of bodies and how they look, let's talk about
Speaker 2: the combine. But still I want to get more on
Speaker 2: this Indianapolis life because I also had the best burger
Speaker 2: of my entire life when I was there, and by
Speaker 2: total accidents. So JT once again and I went to
Speaker 2: the Pacers and Pelicans game on Wednesday, which awesome, awesome
Speaker 2: arena right in the heart of downtown Indianapolis. And after that,
Speaker 2: we tried to go to this brewery that was right
Speaker 2: now next door because cold Weather didn't want to walk
Speaker 2: too far. But their kitchen closed at nine and we
Speaker 2: got there at eight forty five. And I refuse to
Speaker 2: be that guy. JT is what we refuse to be
Speaker 2: those guys like fire up your kitchen, go ahead and
Speaker 2: make us some stakes.
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes past a closing time. It was just burgers,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna do it right.
Speaker 2: So the trip was great, had a great time, got
Speaker 2: a chance to talk to some prospects and some media
Speaker 2: folks and watch the workouts all weekend long and just
Speaker 2: really had a great time. So I want to go
Speaker 2: ahead now, though, and pivot and talk about the actual
Speaker 2: combine and the on field workouts, because I know you guys,
Speaker 2: that's what you come here for, right, You don't care
Speaker 2: about the great good egg burger I had at the
Speaker 2: District Tap in downtown Indianapolis. So I want to talk
Speaker 2: about just a handful of these guys and position groups
Speaker 2: and what we learned from this year's scouting combine.
Speaker 1: And it started off.
Speaker 2: I'm going kind of an order here with who worked
Speaker 2: out in order, and it kicked off with the linebackers
Speaker 2: and defensive line right. I took a look at that
Speaker 2: class and man, the way Chop Robinson runs, the way
Speaker 2: Darius Robinson measured in multi pole categories, the way layout
Speaker 2: to Latu's film and workout all goes together. I think
Speaker 2: you look at those three edge players, and I haven't
Speaker 2: gotten deep enough into it yet to give you real
Speaker 2: insight perspective on the fifth and sixth round draft picks
Speaker 2: that you could potentially be looking at in that spot,
Speaker 2: or even the guys in the third and fourth round
Speaker 2: if Miami are to trade back and get themselves back
Speaker 2: into the middle of this year's draft class, which I
Speaker 2: hope that's what happens, because I think we need more
Speaker 2: picks in that range to hit and be guys that
Speaker 2: can be contributors on those cheap rookie contracts. But for
Speaker 2: the edge group, those three guys I think really kind
Speaker 2: of pinged my interest in terms of guys that could
Speaker 2: potentially be there. I think Chopp ran himself right into
Speaker 2: the top twenty. He's the Penn State guy. I never
Speaker 2: thought Lot two would make it because he's just so
Speaker 2: damn good even if the medical isn't where you want
Speaker 2: to be. I mean, that's kind of what happened to
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips, and he went eighteenth overall because the measurables
Speaker 2: and the just pure production of his playing time and
Speaker 2: what the tape showed you it was it was inarguable right,
Speaker 2: it was so good, and I think that's where law
Speaker 2: to falls. Whereas Darius Robinson from Missouri, Gosh, he has
Speaker 2: that similar you know, kind of kind of like Christian
Speaker 2: Wilkins inside outside pivot ability, two hundred and ninety three pounds,
Speaker 2: really good bend around the edge, and he showed you
Speaker 2: that with the way he ran the shuttle in the
Speaker 2: three cone and in the forty yard dash and all
Speaker 2: the stuff that really measures your movement skills and your explosiveness.
Speaker 2: So watching those guys get after on that first day
Speaker 2: makes me think those are some options there at that position.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk on Wednesday's podcast about this.
Speaker 2: I've kind of pivoted out of what I've been telling
Speaker 2: you guys for a long time here on the podcast,
Speaker 2: and I've been talking about the interior offensive line because
Speaker 2: if you go back over Chris Career's draft history, the
Speaker 2: Dolphins draft history since his you know, appointment in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: but really in recent years as well, they haven't gone
Speaker 2: outside of the premium spots in those draft classes. The
Speaker 2: one exception to that was Minka Fitzpatrick, and Minka Fitzpatrick
Speaker 2: wasn't really I mean, he played more cornerback in Miami
Speaker 2: than he did safety, and when you consider him a
Speaker 2: safety at Alabama, you knew it was this idea of
Speaker 2: slot safety mix. You know, rush the quarterback, fit the run,
Speaker 2: play some perimeter cornerback. Like you knew it was coming.
Speaker 2: With a caveat this is this guy's not just a safety.
Speaker 2: He can play multiple spots in your secondary and never
Speaker 2: leave the field. And those guys that do that, like
Speaker 2: we saw with Derwin James get his big contractor Eumenka
Speaker 2: himself get those big contracts. You see the value that
Speaker 2: league places on guys by how they get paid when
Speaker 2: it comes up to contract time, and so Minca Fitzpatrick's
Speaker 2: second contract would tell you that he wasn't in a
Speaker 2: non premium position, whether it was with Miami or the
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers or Alabama, because he got paid commesurate with
Speaker 2: guys that have a bigger impact than what your traditional
Speaker 2: safety Will Garner, right, And Javon Holland probably falls into
Speaker 2: a category more along that line than he does. You know,
Speaker 2: Deshaun Elliott, for instance, who got you know, played really
Speaker 2: well last year, but you can see where the safety
Speaker 2: market kind of comes up short by the compensation there.
Speaker 2: Or Kyle Hamilton for the Baltimore Ravens, who was the
Speaker 2: best player in that draft a couple of years ago, right,
Speaker 2: like it was clear he was the best player in
Speaker 2: the damn class, and he goes fourteenth because he plays
Speaker 2: a position that doesn't have that value perceived to the
Speaker 2: other groups, because if you go back to twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: first round Laemye Tunzel, I'm doing my Wednesday podcast bit already.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of regretting this.
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen Charles Harris was an edge, twenty eighteen MINKA.
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen Christian Wilkins a defensive tackle that has become
Speaker 2: again eighty five percent snap taker inside outside versatility, like
Speaker 2: he's gonna get paid at a level that shows you
Speaker 2: that's kind of a premium spot at this stage, or
Speaker 2: at least on the periphery of premium positional value. Right, Like,
Speaker 2: linebackers don't make that much. Running backs don't make that much.
Speaker 2: Tight ends don't make that much. Safeties don't make that much.
Speaker 2: Guards don't make that much. Twenty twenty first round quarterback,
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, cornerback. Like three of the premier positions twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, the ones we didn't check off in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: receiver and edge. Those are the five premier positions, right
Speaker 2: with Waddle and Phillips. Those were your picks then then
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, no draft pick, No twenty no draft
Speaker 2: pick in twenty two, So was it seven of those
Speaker 2: nine picks were premium spots, and the two guys that
Speaker 2: were not premium spots have kind of become premium players
Speaker 2: from their production and just kind of their usage in general.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of pivoting off that thought into I
Speaker 2: think the first round probably belongs to a premium position
Speaker 2: because what better way to maximize your resources you have
Speaker 2: and the value of that pick than to make it
Speaker 2: a player you have for four years under cost control
Speaker 2: rookie contract at a position where when that player hits
Speaker 2: like you hope they do by year two, three or
Speaker 2: four and becomes a premier player, you're now getting premiere
Speaker 2: production for a fraction of the cost of what that
Speaker 2: would cost for an extension or even more beyond that
Speaker 2: the top of the market free agency, right because we
Speaker 2: know that when guys resigned to their own clubs, and
Speaker 2: we just saw today Mike Evans got a new contract
Speaker 2: from the Buccaneers, which, by the way, how cool is
Speaker 2: to watch Jets Twitter meltdown?
Speaker 1: That was like their top target the entire year.
Speaker 2: That was kind of how they got themselves through the season,
Speaker 2: and already before free agency gets here, he's already off
Speaker 2: the board.
Speaker 1: I just hate that team so much.
Speaker 2: But you saw him get paid by the Bucks and
Speaker 2: take take a little bit of a haircut. Not much,
Speaker 2: but he probably could have got more on the open market,
Speaker 2: because when you get to the open market, it becomes
Speaker 2: a feeding frenzy, a bidding war, an opportunity for teams
Speaker 2: to say, well, they offered you this, you know, top
Speaker 2: of the market. We can go a little bit beyond
Speaker 2: that and stretch because we have.
Speaker 1: All this cap space.
Speaker 2: Because by the way, when you have cap space, it
Speaker 2: means you probably suck the year before we have that,
Speaker 2: so we can afford to pay it to you. And
Speaker 2: that's what teams tend to do, and that's how you
Speaker 2: get yourself into cap hell. That's how this team was
Speaker 2: ran under Mike Tannembum for a long time, where they
Speaker 2: would milk these you know, aging players who are beyond
Speaker 2: their prime yeers of their career and give them money
Speaker 2: into the back end of their contract with these restructures
Speaker 2: in order to open up money right now for that
Speaker 2: one splash signing. And then we drop in Dominican sue
Speaker 2: in and have no offensive line, have no running game,
Speaker 2: have me you know, as you guys will say, the
Speaker 2: kids out there, mid receivers that has questionable defensive backfield,
Speaker 2: but we got Dominican Sue damn it, we won March again. Like,
Speaker 2: that's how how bad teams are ran. And when you
Speaker 2: can offset those ideas with production at the rookie level,
Speaker 2: that's where you get your big wins. So I think
Speaker 2: that the idea for the Dolphins and a lot of
Speaker 2: teams across the league, drafting those premium positions tends to
Speaker 2: be the smarter play, and when you hit on them, gosh,
Speaker 2: it works out because we're going to have like Phillips
Speaker 2: and Waddle next year, assuming they.
Speaker 1: Don't get extended, which maybe they do.
Speaker 2: But if you have them in the what would be one,
Speaker 2: two three the fourth year of their career, like they're
Speaker 2: going to be playing like top ten receivers and edge
Speaker 2: rushers but being paid like, you know, thirty fifth among
Speaker 2: their position group. That's where you really get the maximum
Speaker 2: value from those spots. So that's why I include Chop
Speaker 2: Robinson and Darius Robinson and layout two lat too, because
Speaker 2: I think that position is well with him play right
Speaker 2: there and it makes sense with how this class could
Speaker 2: stack up. So those guys to me kind of won
Speaker 2: the early portion of the workout I want to finish
Speaker 2: up this first segment talking about the player that really
Speaker 2: jumped off the workouts for me, actually, there was a
Speaker 2: couple of the Kentucky linebackers in there.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: He was really athletic and moved around and showed you
Speaker 2: some of this ability because to me, we don't talk
Speaker 2: about linebackers as a premium position.
Speaker 1: But man, when you go back and look at the.
Speaker 2: Final four teams the last couple of years, they tend
Speaker 2: to have a couple of traffic cops in the middle
Speaker 2: of the field who can really erase that deep hook
Speaker 2: zone right where we live. The Dolphins live on those
Speaker 2: fifteen eighteen yard rips on time from Tua to Tyreek,
Speaker 2: from Tua to waddle from Tuda Ceddrick Wilson doesn't.
Speaker 1: Matter to it to anybody.
Speaker 2: To to me, the linebackers that can minimize that and
Speaker 2: use length and speed to get depth, but also have
Speaker 2: the recognition and the length and the speed to get
Speaker 2: downhill and impact the running game. That all marries off
Speaker 2: of each other, right, And so those types of players
Speaker 2: you're Fred warners, Gosh, they sure are valuable. So there
Speaker 2: are exceptions to every position group, and the Kentucky kid
Speaker 2: can move. But when I go back to that linebacker group,
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson from NC State man, he looks like the
Speaker 2: next one to me. Because again going back over the
Speaker 2: final four of the Chiefs with Gay and Drew Trankwell
Speaker 2: and Nick Bolton, or the Niners with Fred Warner and
Speaker 2: dra Greenlaw, or the Ravens with ro qwant Smith and
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen. All these teams, the Lions alex Anzeloni and
Speaker 2: Jack Campbell both had great years this year as a
Speaker 2: rookie and a free agent that was kind of cast
Speaker 2: off from a previous regime.
Speaker 1: Right, All these teams have these guys that can impact
Speaker 1: the game that way.
Speaker 2: And the nice part about it is I don't think
Speaker 2: you have to spend high draft capital to get those
Speaker 2: types of players. Fred Warner was a second round draft pick.
Speaker 2: Ro Quan Smith went very, very high, but he was
Speaker 2: like a unicorn in that sense. Patrick Queen was a
Speaker 2: late first round draft pick. Drake Greenlaw was drafted way
Speaker 2: down the board, right, Alexandzelini like a fifth round draft pick.
Speaker 2: Jack Campbell wasn't the first round, but you can kind
Speaker 2: of see there's this blend of size speed combination in
Speaker 2: the ability to impact the hooks Owe. I think that
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson might be that guy, and it might not
Speaker 2: cost you a premium pick to do it. One because
Speaker 2: of the positional value and what you're hoping he becomes,
Speaker 2: which he's not yet. And two he has a medical history.
Speaker 2: But this guy can run man and he's got the length.
Speaker 2: It's like almost it's almost Brian Erlacker s because you
Speaker 2: guys areann to play Madden back in the day when
Speaker 2: Brian Urlacker in the rushing attack game just was like
Speaker 2: bigger than everybody else and faster than everybody else and
Speaker 2: just ruined it if you were trying to play against
Speaker 2: that defense. It kind of reminds me of that at
Speaker 2: his best. So I thought he really won the day
Speaker 2: on Friday, along with those edge players that I talked about.
Speaker 2: And there's gonna be tons of guys we don't cover
Speaker 2: here on one edition of the podcast, but very interesting
Speaker 2: crop there. I want to go ahead and take our
Speaker 2: first break right here and come back and talk about
Speaker 2: the dbs that ran well and what that group could
Speaker 2: look like, and also come back and talk about the offense.
Speaker 2: Plenty more to come your way here on this Monday
Speaker 2: Combine Recap edition of the Draft Time podcast, your host
Speaker 2: Travis Wingfield, brought.
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Speaker 2: So, defensive beck is another one of those premium positions,
Speaker 2: and not defensive beck per se. More so the cornerback
Speaker 2: spot right that is one of your quarterback, receiver, tackle, edge,
Speaker 2: corner are the five premium positions in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: And I've seen it from folks out there, Folks that
Speaker 2: you know, folks that I know, ghost to Adam Gaates,
Speaker 2: what's up, buddy, how you doing talking about like if
Speaker 2: they take a cornerback it's a miss, dog, No it ain't.
Speaker 2: It's never a miss to hit on a great player
Speaker 2: at a premium position for all the reasons I just
Speaker 2: laid out. And when I watched these cornerbacks scoot and
Speaker 2: toote baby, there was eight of them that ran forties
Speaker 2: sub four four. There are all kinds of guys in
Speaker 2: this class that can reroute, that can be physical, that
Speaker 2: can get up in your face and change the complexion
Speaker 2: of how these timing offenses want to work and then
Speaker 2: have the vertical speed to get deep when they lose
Speaker 2: their press at the lion of scrimmage. And for Miami,
Speaker 2: where I think that I think you invest in Jalen
Speaker 2: Ramsey for a long time and make him finish his
Speaker 2: career here however long he wants that to be, and
Speaker 2: you play him at that cornerback position where he can
Speaker 2: kind of move about, and Coach Weaver talked about his
Speaker 2: flexibility and how valuable it is to a football team.
Speaker 2: You maximize that while he has that skill set, and
Speaker 2: then once he loses a half step, I think he
Speaker 2: can become one of the best safeties in the National
Speaker 2: Football League. So for me, heavily in Jalen Ramsey's future.
Speaker 2: And we know that camp Smith has a lot of ability.
Speaker 2: We know that I believe in camp Smith as much
Speaker 2: as anybody out there, But you cannot tell me fortifying
Speaker 2: that position and investing in it for your biggest resource
Speaker 2: that you have your first round draft pick and to
Speaker 2: hit on that spot with what you have in Ramsey,
Speaker 2: with what you have in cater Co who which if
Speaker 2: camp Smith works out, these guys would all play at
Speaker 2: some point right.
Speaker 1: Cornerbacks tend to do that. We saw it last year
Speaker 1: in training camp.
Speaker 2: The cornerback position each of the last two years completely decimated.
Speaker 2: So I look at the way the cornerbacks ran and
Speaker 2: then some of the guys in this class, like if
Speaker 2: Quinny and Mitchell after the way he worked out, I
Speaker 2: think he's cornerback one now after his Combine and Senior
Speaker 2: bowlwork from Toledo to overtake a guy from Alabama and
Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold who only ran a four or five
Speaker 2: but still goes in the first round, and you think
Speaker 2: that probably was going to be cornerback one before all
Speaker 2: the pre draft stuff happened. And by the way, if
Speaker 2: he's at twenty one, wouldn't hesitate it either. Terry Arnold's
Speaker 2: a great looking prospect. So my whole point is if
Speaker 2: be because of some of these workouts and some of
Speaker 2: the moves and some of how the position board stacks
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, Matt Miller talked about in
Speaker 2: the podcast last week.
Speaker 1: I keep reading about it on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Twenty of thirty two picks in the first round are
Speaker 2: going to be offense at minimum. You know, all this
Speaker 2: talk about the offensive talent in the quarterback position, the
Speaker 2: offensive line, the receiver position. If that has an impact
Speaker 2: where it pushes down the corners and edge players and
Speaker 2: you get into the crack at a Jalen Phillips, you
Speaker 2: get into the crack in the second round in Xavion
Speaker 2: Howard like turn the freaking cart in Man, I'll take
Speaker 2: four years of elite play for fraction of the cost
Speaker 2: of what that elite play cost at a premium position.
Speaker 2: That's my point. Don't draft for your needs right now.
Speaker 2: That's a terrible way to do it, terriboy, to approach
Speaker 2: your team building because next year, guess what, your knees
Speaker 2: will be different. And you'd rather have a premiere, five star,
Speaker 2: blue chip cornerback than a three and a half star
Speaker 2: center because you needed center in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Get me.
Speaker 2: So those are the guys that really caught my eye there.
Speaker 2: I've talked about slot cornerbacks for days in this podcast.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and pivot now to the tight end
Speaker 2: clash because I wrote down four names here that also
Speaker 2: worked out that I thought were super impressive, and they
Speaker 2: are Taylor McLoughlin from Arizona, Jatavian Sanders from Texas. I've
Speaker 2: talked about Brevin span Fod from Minnesota, A Bunch, and
Speaker 2: Ben sinnat Son. I don't know how to pronounce that.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it said yet from Kansas State. But
Speaker 2: holy moly, man, the Kansas State kid, Let's pull him
Speaker 2: up real quick. His combine four six eight forty was impressive.
Speaker 2: And I watched him at the Senior Bowl, and he
Speaker 2: was a tricky evaluation there for me because he got
Speaker 2: himself in and out of the notes because he kept
Speaker 2: on wasting fools like leaving dudes in his dust in
Speaker 2: his tracks and then wouldn't squeeze the football. But you
Speaker 2: go to the combine and he's six foot four and
Speaker 2: he's two hundred and fifty pounds and he jumped a
Speaker 2: forty inched vertical and a ten foot six broad. Oh
Speaker 2: and by the way, his three cone was better than
Speaker 2: a lot of receivers at six point eight two with
Speaker 2: a four to two three shuttle and a one five
Speaker 2: to nine ten split. That might be your tight end
Speaker 2: rate there. And I don't know where he goes off
Speaker 2: the board, but my goodness, what a workout for this
Speaker 2: guy who also from Kansas State's program, does money of
Speaker 2: end line blocking and gets himself attached to edges and
Speaker 2: linebackers and safeties alike in the blocking game. Pretty excited
Speaker 2: about what he could possibly be for the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 2: if he winds up a Miami Dolphin I'm curious what.
Speaker 2: Let me pull this up real quick because I think
Speaker 2: his three cone, Yeah, he was the fastest among all
Speaker 2: tight ends.
Speaker 1: What if we get rid of that qualifier? How do
Speaker 1: you get rid of the qualifiers? Six eight to two? Dude?
Speaker 2: He was one, two, three, four five six seven eight.
Speaker 2: He was the ninth fastest three cone. A cornerback, a receiver,
Speaker 2: three receivers, a running back, a quarterback, a running back,
Speaker 2: a corner A tight end shows up in this in
Speaker 2: this list.
Speaker 1: What the hell's he doing there? What what are you
Speaker 1: doing up there?
Speaker 2: Uh so? Yeah, Benson note from Kansas State. I am
Speaker 2: very intrigued by his skill set as that kind of
Speaker 2: stretch athletic tight end but also can impact the running game.
Speaker 2: And then Jatavian Sanders with the guy that you heard
Speaker 2: Jordan Reed talk about on the podcast on Thursday from Texas.
Speaker 2: This guy's impressive man tall, can get down the football field,
Speaker 2: can pluck the ball top of helmets of safeties, and
Speaker 2: just kind of stretch teams inside that way. And we
Speaker 2: actually heard Tyreek Hill talk about which player in the
Speaker 2: class he would want the most for the Dolphins to
Speaker 2: draft on hit one of his twitch streams or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell I'm trying to talk about here, and he
Speaker 2: said he wants to give from LSU and Neighbors. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Tyreek Neighbors is gonna be a top six pick. Bro,
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be there. But he was Tyreek Sam like,
Speaker 2: I can play more on the slot. I could be
Speaker 2: Aman Ross Saint Brown, he said, which was kind of funny,
Speaker 2: but thinking about the possibility of players of that size
Speaker 2: that can go outside and win on the perimeter. So
Speaker 2: the Tyreek can get more work inside because last year
Speaker 2: Tyreek and Waddell couldn't play as much slot. Why because
Speaker 2: we don't have the guys on the outside to win.
Speaker 2: Cedric Wilson was on an outside guy. River Craik crafts
Speaker 2: on an outside guy. Baxenberry was sure is held on
Speaker 2: an outside guy. So maybe that's something you look at there.
Speaker 2: Although I still tend to believe that you should go
Speaker 2: after players that are just good and have speed and
Speaker 2: are good players, regardless of the type of players you
Speaker 2: already have in that position group. And that's why we
Speaker 2: land here on Texas's Xavier Worthy. If you guys saw
Speaker 2: me tweet about this, I put a comment up on
Speaker 2: the old tweeter about his record breaking forty yard dash
Speaker 2: of four point two one seconds. He eclips John Ross
Speaker 2: who ran four to two two back in was it
Speaker 2: nine for the U dub Husky and got drafted by
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: Was it nine? I don't know when that was.
Speaker 2: I could be way off on that, but yeah, Xavier
Speaker 2: Worthy is a new record holder for combine forty yard dash.
Speaker 2: And there was a play where he catches a jet
Speaker 2: sweep against some college team who cares you'll watch it anyways. Uh.
Speaker 2: He wins the short corner where the cornerback is in
Speaker 2: the fit, which is the furthest like portion of the field,
Speaker 2: like it's the perimeter, and Worthy's like, I got you
Speaker 2: and just runs right around him, kind of like Tyreek
Speaker 2: in the Denver game on that opening touchdown when he
Speaker 2: ran right around a corner who thought he had the
Speaker 2: angle cut off and didn't and lost and it was
Speaker 2: six points. Like that, speed man, you put one more
Speaker 2: of those guys in the field, just one more of them,
Speaker 2: like it multiplies what everybody else Wattle, Tyreek eight chan,
Speaker 2: like it multiplies their skill. I am very intrigued by
Speaker 2: the idea of Xavier Worthy and all these receivers. Man,
Speaker 2: this is such a good receiver class. It's why I
Speaker 2: kind of want to move off the first round, use
Speaker 2: that first round pick for I don't know whoever it
Speaker 2: might be. You know, I think Fatana's gone the U
Speaker 2: dub tackle, but maybe it's him. If you move back
Speaker 2: in the draft a little bit, you get an extra
Speaker 2: third round pick, and you come back and you use
Speaker 2: that third round pick for a receiver in the second round,
Speaker 2: pick can be your offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Like, there's a lot of options here for.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins, and I think because of the way this
Speaker 2: class is constructed and the deep positions that you have
Speaker 2: needs at like offensive line and receiver, it can afford
Speaker 2: you the opportunity to kind of sit back and go
Speaker 2: get those positions at various points of the draft because
Speaker 2: there's flavor for everybody at every stage of the draft.
Speaker 2: I think that's what we learned from this year's combine
Speaker 2: was just how deep and how good it is back there.
Speaker 2: But Xavier Worthy is the one that gets the marquee
Speaker 2: here because he's certainly earned it. Right.
Speaker 1: How about the running backs, there was a kid from
Speaker 1: LSU Isaac.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never heard his name pronounced, which
Speaker 2: is funny because I watched his opening game for Louisville
Speaker 2: back and opening weekend in college football. Six foot one,
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty one pounds, Isaac Garendo. I think
Speaker 2: it is he ran very fast for three to three
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that speed plays in our backfield
Speaker 2: right a one to five to five ten split, forty
Speaker 2: one and a half inch vert ten nine broad six
Speaker 2: nine to four to three cone. He is fast as
Speaker 2: all get out, and that's what you want in this backfield.
Speaker 1: And I think I could.
Speaker 2: I would have no problem turning the card for a
Speaker 2: fifth round draft pick on a running back like that,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I have my next eight
Speaker 2: chan moster speed guy. Chris Brooks is in the fold
Speaker 2: as well. My backfield's done right there. Cut it, call
Speaker 2: it good, and then maybe in two years your backfield is,
Speaker 2: you know, two years of cheap production with eight chan
Speaker 2: on the rokie contract and Isaac Garendo on the rookie contract.
Speaker 2: That's something I was looking at with those running back positions.
Speaker 2: I touched on the offensive line there a little bit.
Speaker 2: I mean, Troy Fatano is the one that really jumps
Speaker 2: off the page right, the way he moved the screen drill,
Speaker 2: the wave drill, the forty yard dash, the ten split.
Speaker 2: He was five to zhero one one one, seven to
Speaker 2: one on the ten split, which is gosh, that's choice
Speaker 2: that really puts you in premier position in terms of
Speaker 2: how you move and how you fit in this Dolphins system. Right,
Speaker 2: and then the whole group is like that. Amarius Mims
Speaker 2: had a crazy, crazy short shule time that size.
Speaker 1: He is a very rare breed.
Speaker 2: In fact, I pulled up this great tweet from Josh Norris,
Speaker 2: who does fantastic work for Underdog Football, and he covers this.
Speaker 2: He tracks us every single year.
Speaker 1: It's his.
Speaker 2: It's his offensive line threshold statistic that I think, really
Speaker 2: it's impossible to argue. Quite frankly, let's go ahead and
Speaker 2: let's see where is it.
Speaker 1: It's my bookmark.
Speaker 2: There you go. So his his criteria is this four
Speaker 2: to four to seven short shuttle or better. There is
Speaker 2: twenty four guys that have been drafted since twenty ten
Speaker 2: with that criteria, and the whole list, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's Nate Solder, Anthony Costanzo, Andre Dillard, Yikes. Ko Koog's
Speaker 2: the one miss on there, Eric Fisher's, Ion Johnson, Jake Matthews,
Speaker 2: Joel Patonio, Jake Fisher, Ali Marpette, like right, star tackles
Speaker 2: star players to the next level, and six guys hit
Speaker 2: that threshold this year, Wisconsin's Tanner Bordelini four two eight
Speaker 2: for two eight. He actually also clipped Jason Kelsey's record
Speaker 2: breaking three cone time of seven to two. He was
Speaker 2: a seven to one to six guy. Like amazing, Amarus
Speaker 2: Mims at that size, This guy is a freak man.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of guy that I could see mine.
Speaker 2: He been like, Yeah, let's take a chance on the
Speaker 2: Marius Mims because he is high weight, speed combination to
Speaker 2: be the best tackle in the NFL with the way
Speaker 2: he looks. Just hasn't had the college tape and he
Speaker 2: has had some injury issues there. But pick twenty one,
Speaker 2: that's kind of a gamble you can make in that
Speaker 2: position there. If he makes it that far, I doubt
Speaker 2: he does. Kansas is Dominic Puney. We talked about him
Speaker 2: with Daniel Jeremiah on the conference call a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: He also got some reps at centers. Maybe he can
Speaker 2: play some of that role. Well, that's a pretty good
Speaker 2: place to be right there, right, NC State's Dylan McMahon
Speaker 2: four four five, us C's Jarrett Kingston, former Washington State
Speaker 2: coogu transferred he was four four seven, and then Arkansas's
Speaker 2: guard Brady Latham. So, man, like those are names you're
Speaker 2: gonna hear on day three. Like that, I'm intrigued by
Speaker 2: that and looking into that as guys to look at.
Speaker 2: So that's offensive line we talked about receivers. Quarterbacks is
Speaker 2: the last one here before a final break on the show,
Speaker 2: and I still continue to come away from this. I
Speaker 2: know Caleb didn't throw. I know, you know a lot
Speaker 2: of the the quarterbacks mostly didn't test, but damn it,
Speaker 2: with the way Michael Pennix spends the football is better
Speaker 2: than anybody else in the class. I know he's got
Speaker 2: injury issues. I know he hasn't doesn't move the way
Speaker 2: Caleb does for sure. I haven't watched the tape yet.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it soon, but I still just
Speaker 2: feel like Michael Pennix, I'm gonna come away from this
Speaker 2: year's draft evaluations thinking he's the best quarterback in the class.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, he looks pretty damn good to me.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take our last break right there,
Speaker 2: come back on the other side, and I have some
Speaker 2: thoughts for you guys. That's the next Draft Time podcast,
Speaker 2: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation. This
Speaker 2: isn't going to be any combined coverage right here. I
Speaker 2: do want to address a couple of things because one
Speaker 2: of my favorite things to do in the podcast and
Speaker 2: in general is to take what other media outlets are
Speaker 2: doing and give you my thoughts on those thoughts, because
Speaker 2: I think it's good to have balance and to make
Speaker 2: where you feel you have some corrections to make, or
Speaker 2: just to kind of weigh in in general and agree
Speaker 2: with stuff. And so one of my favorite writers out
Speaker 2: there right now, and this is so true for so
Speaker 2: many people that I respect, they.
Speaker 1: Have taken on this form.
Speaker 2: I talked to Kyle Krabs about it all the time,
Speaker 2: and even the guy I'm talking about even mentions this
Speaker 2: on the podcast, like they're size queens, man, They're so
Speaker 2: in love with arm strength. And I was thinking about
Speaker 2: this other night sitting on the back porch of my house,
Speaker 2: like arm strength is unanimously agreed upon by most people,
Speaker 2: as like the sixth or seventh most important quarterback trade. Right,
Speaker 2: It's just not that it's not up there, it's when
Speaker 2: you need it. It's great, but it's not needed that frequently.
Speaker 2: It's like having insane mode on your tesla.
Speaker 1: You ever using that shit? That stuff? Sorry on the turnpike.
Speaker 1: You're not imagine if a receiver, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like route running all like stem stack, catch point
Speaker 2: release hands are important, right, what if you know your
Speaker 2: seventh most important receiver trade is like I don't know,
Speaker 2: jump balls right, Like it's just not that important. Like
Speaker 2: the arm strength argument just has gotten so tired because
Speaker 2: you don't you rarely need it. You need it sometimes,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but you rarely need that arm
Speaker 2: strength to fit balls.
Speaker 1: Into those windows down the field.
Speaker 2: It's great to have it, but I just I don't
Speaker 2: understand why all these really smart football minds have gone
Speaker 2: this way into thinking like big arm, throw ball far
Speaker 2: And I'm getting towards Nate Tice, the great writer for
Speaker 2: Yahoo and does a great podcast with Robert Mays on
Speaker 2: The Athletic Football Show, and he was on the Around
Speaker 2: the NFL podcast, which you know that's for him.
Speaker 1: That's like a seminar of education for those guys.
Speaker 2: But he was talking about on this podcast and he
Speaker 2: has two A ranked like nineteenth on his quarterback list.
Speaker 2: He subtweeted a tweet about us paying to A and
Speaker 2: was like doing a Simpsons meme about how it's a
Speaker 2: bad idea. And then he goes on this podcast and
Speaker 2: I hear him talk about Caleb Williams. I almost like,
Speaker 2: Caleb Martin, go heat baby, Caleb Williams. And he was like, well,
Speaker 2: here's the thing, guys. He has all the creativity, and
Speaker 2: everyone's trying to find these games and these plays and
Speaker 2: these clips to make it look like he's not a
Speaker 2: good player. But you go back and you watch the
Speaker 2: most important things. How does he play from the pocket,
Speaker 2: how does he attack the middle of the field. He
Speaker 2: goes crazy throwing the ball to the middle of the field,
Speaker 2: He's accurate in those positions he throws on time, and
Speaker 2: how he hit over seven yards adjusted yards per dropback,
Speaker 2: which with the great quarterbacks do.
Speaker 1: And I listen them to these traits and I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 1: all those traits are.
Speaker 2: What Tua is like best in the NFL at and
Speaker 2: by the way, seven yards per adjusted drop back, Tua
Speaker 2: was well over those metrics each of the last two years.
Speaker 2: And that's what Nate was saying was those are the
Speaker 2: metrics that typically result in the best quarterbacks a year
Speaker 2: and in year out. And like you look at the
Speaker 2: list of those quarterbacks, it's Patrick Mahomes, it is Matthew
Speaker 2: Stafford this year, it is Josh Allen, it's Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: It's too Adunga.
Speaker 2: I loa like his peers that he gets measured against
Speaker 2: for whatever reason because his arm is not big arm,
Speaker 2: throwball far. He gets excluded from that group. And I
Speaker 2: don't understand it, because you literally explained in your favorite
Speaker 2: quarterback traits everything that makes two a special and then
Speaker 2: you disparage the young man. I don't get It blows
Speaker 2: my mind. I hope we have this reversion back to
Speaker 2: the mean at some point where people don't think about
Speaker 2: how you look in shorts like Zach Wilson throwing the
Speaker 2: football around an indoor facility, and you start to taking
Speaker 2: into account more film and processing in football and the
Speaker 2: actual management of situations and games. That's what I want
Speaker 2: to see in care about. That's why I like Michael
Speaker 2: Pennock so much. It's why Caleb Williams scares the hell
Speaker 2: out of me. Yeah, he does have some of that
Speaker 2: you know on schedule stuff, but all that running around
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna work, dude, Like it ain't gonna work
Speaker 2: unless you've got Lamar speed, it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see what he looks like. He
Speaker 1: terrifies me as a prospect.
Speaker 2: I feel like Pennox, even though the medical is terrible
Speaker 2: and the age is something to look at, is like
Speaker 2: safer because I know he can do what's required for
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback to win.
Speaker 1: One more note here.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious and one of our favorite
Speaker 2: people talk about the podcast here. A new Werd Dolphins
Speaker 2: podcast was trying to use Ryan Fitzpatrick's passer rating in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty to say that he was a vastly superior
Speaker 2: quarterback to a tongue of b I Lowa because he
Speaker 2: had like twelve points better in passer rating, and the
Speaker 2: the same account will tell you that Tua is nowhere
Speaker 2: near Justin Herbert. Well, have you seen Tua's passeragas to
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's last two years? I just want to put
Speaker 2: down the record. It drives me crazy. And speaking of
Speaker 2: being driven crazy, let's finish up with this. This podcast
Speaker 2: is kind of all over the place today, so I
Speaker 2: apologize for that and I mentioned it, or maybe I'm
Speaker 2: gonna mention it here with it's to my notes, but so, okay,
Speaker 2: someone on Twitter, I want to finish here because everyone
Speaker 2: I've talked to you has told me how much they
Speaker 2: love this side.
Speaker 1: Of the show or of me. Right, spiey Travis.
Speaker 2: But one thing you have to know doing this stuff,
Speaker 2: anything within a smidge of the public eye, is that
Speaker 2: not everyone is going to like you. Tough for me
Speaker 2: at first, it wasn't conditioned to accept that lifestyle. Now
Speaker 2: four years into it, a little bit more so, right,
Speaker 2: some people will irrationally hate you for no other reason
Speaker 2: than some minuscule Twitter interaction that you don't remember from
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 1: That always gets me.
Speaker 2: Like people also like sometimes I have interactions where people
Speaker 2: come up to me, like fans, huge fan of the podcast, Travis,
Speaker 2: we had this interaction three years ago on Twitter, and
Speaker 2: they don't tell me their names, Like, I don't know
Speaker 2: your name, bro, Like I'm not podcasting is like that, right,
Speaker 2: Like the person that listens thinks they know the podcaster.
Speaker 2: And I'm a huge fan of my fans, But I
Speaker 2: can't possibly know who all you are just by looking
Speaker 2: at you, you know what I'm saying, So like you
Speaker 2: get this level of like back and forth, it's not
Speaker 2: really tethered to reality. And so I want to start
Speaker 2: with this because I think Twitter has largely become a
Speaker 2: useless tool. Did you guys see the reporter and I'm
Speaker 2: using air quotes and we use that term extremely lucy,
Speaker 2: right the Jackwagon who opened up Caleb Williams's presser with
Speaker 2: the worst question of all time. Right, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: have and you'll see he did over five million views
Speaker 2: on that video, which is monetized because of his blue
Speaker 2: check mark.
Speaker 1: Right, So Elon Lumpy.
Speaker 2: Elon took this really cool way to connect with sports fans,
Speaker 2: especially during live events. That to me is what Twitter
Speaker 2: was always about, was watching live events with the rest
Speaker 2: of the country on Twitter and the rest of the
Speaker 2: world connecting during a live game. So he took that
Speaker 2: formula and incentivized idiots to not just be idiots on
Speaker 2: the platform, Like people calling to a noodle arm to
Speaker 2: his mom, shut the hell up, like that's not what
Speaker 2: it's for, people calling Javon Holland names to shut up
Speaker 2: you know. But now we've seen people take that to
Speaker 2: real life and do it there because they can monetize it.
Speaker 2: I had Twitter blue for the season because it's setting
Speaker 2: money on fire for me not to do that, I apologize.
Speaker 2: I never thought I would do that, but I had
Speaker 2: it hit the blue check mark. I'd get rid of
Speaker 2: it in the off season because I don't tweet enough
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be on Twitter that much
Speaker 2: beyond with you guys, I kind of hate it now,
Speaker 2: so in season I unblock everyone because it equals more engagement. Right,
Speaker 2: more engagment equals more scratch, trying to feed my kids,
Speaker 2: trying to get Sweet Caroline her cake pops, which brings
Speaker 2: me to the point of a sellout. Now. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you guys saw this, but somebody called me
Speaker 2: a sellout on Twitter for taking this job and called
Speaker 2: me bitch made I think was the term. And by
Speaker 2: the way, if you get blocked by someone, don't screenshot
Speaker 2: it and share it. It's not a good look. It
Speaker 2: doesn't work for you that way. You're bragging about yourself
Speaker 2: being an a hole, You're bragging about weird behavior.
Speaker 1: At least in most cases.
Speaker 2: Now, I block people when one of the following three
Speaker 2: things happens straight up being rude and insulting.
Speaker 1: No time for that. Be thick skinned. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: forget that.
Speaker 2: It's bad for your mental health to read that stuff
Speaker 2: on the regular, and if I welcomed it all in,
Speaker 2: it would be horrible.
Speaker 1: For my mental health.
Speaker 2: I had to look out for myself Number two, telling
Speaker 2: me what my job entails are, how to do it,
Speaker 2: or what you perceive me to be in terms of
Speaker 2: like the propaganda machine. Right, yes there is red tape. Yes,
Speaker 2: the podcast has changed, that's clear. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: crap on our guys on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You should neither. I'm not gonna crap on our guys
Speaker 1: outside of calling out bad football. You should neither.
Speaker 2: If you like tagging people's family and commenting under every
Speaker 2: post with something bad to say, hey, look inward. And
Speaker 2: that's the third, the constant negativity. I told a fan
Speaker 2: that he needs a new hobby because he wrote under
Speaker 2: one of my tweets that wasn't about Tua, that paying
Speaker 2: Tua was blah blah blah blah blah. Right, the same
Speaker 2: folks that said not signing Lyel Collins was the biggest
Speaker 2: mistake we'd ever make and also wanted you to take
Speaker 2: Nage Harris or Jaylen Phillips right, those folks, that's not
Speaker 2: just football, that's life. No time for that nonsense, whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Help I mute my own brother, Ryan, I hope you
Speaker 2: hear this. I mute my own brother sometimes during the season,
Speaker 2: being because after the opening drive touchdown for the other team,
Speaker 2: he gets way too negative, and I just I don't
Speaker 2: want any part of that. I get that sometimes negativity,
Speaker 2: when you vent it feels better for you. But when
Speaker 2: you cast that toxicity out there, you're getting your bad feelings.
Speaker 1: Onto everybody else. It sucks.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't want to be a
Speaker 2: part of it. Have zero capacity for that in my life,
Speaker 2: especially from a stranger. My brother's one thing, but a stranger,
Speaker 2: because like, what's the point you're gonna let everyone know
Speaker 2: all spring and summer how upset you are the Dolphins
Speaker 2: are in this position that you think is bad, that
Speaker 2: they can't compete, they're not a Super Bowl contender. Just
Speaker 2: to be wrong in September, right, because we always are.
Speaker 2: It always changes the perceptions you have of the season,
Speaker 2: never go the way you think they will, And then
Speaker 2: you spent six months on Twitter getting mad for hypotheticals
Speaker 2: for what who's that for?
Speaker 1: To venture toxicity?
Speaker 2: Man, So Homie got blocked for being a negative B
Speaker 2: word quite frankly, then thought he'd do the screenshot thing
Speaker 2: and he got cooked by the trap fans. Baby, it
Speaker 2: was kind of cool to me to watch because people
Speaker 2: who actually know me and my character they came to
Speaker 2: my defense. I appreciate you guys for that. So most
Speaker 2: of the time I don't see those and I block
Speaker 2: him out, but this one I saw, and then I
Speaker 2: went and played with my daughter, because like, that's real life, right.
Speaker 2: The realization is that most of the time these people
Speaker 2: are probably children. I get that, but sometimes it's not.
Speaker 2: Like there's a guy Travis turb I'll call you out
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: He went on this big thing about how he can't
Speaker 2: listen to my podcast anymore because we lost three games
Speaker 2: in a row and I wasn't negative enough for him. Man,
Speaker 2: I was pretty hard on the team of those shows.
Speaker 2: I don't think you listened to those podcasts. But I
Speaker 2: also just have perspective because I'm in the building. I
Speaker 2: know that's not how the NFL works. No one is
Speaker 2: emotional like that, Okay, I'm also thirty six, so I
Speaker 2: know that life it has ups and downs, and I
Speaker 2: can handle them.
Speaker 1: It's my first rodeo.
Speaker 2: I'm smart enough to also know that a couple of
Speaker 2: games is not some grand indicator of the next ten
Speaker 2: years of Dolphins football. Like you gotta have perspective. We
Speaker 2: learned these lessons every year, and we refuse to learn
Speaker 2: from them.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: So Travis turb told me he can't listen to the
Speaker 2: podcast anymore. Still falls on Twitter funny, and I bet
Speaker 2: he comments on this. Just watch they always do. And
Speaker 2: then you go back and you look at Travis turbs tweets,
Speaker 2: and he was begging me to retweet his collection of
Speaker 2: Dolphin's gear like a child would do. So it's either
Speaker 2: children or grown men behaving like children, Like when the
Speaker 2: dude who stole the touchdown ball from Tyreek's mom came
Speaker 2: at me, like, bro, you steal baseballs from kids at
Speaker 2: the ballpark?
Speaker 1: Like sit down.
Speaker 2: And the final thing, when people say they go to
Speaker 2: their truth purveyors, just remember those truth purveyors, Ask me,
Speaker 2: what's the three technique, Travis. They don't know the basic
Speaker 2: one oh one fundamentals of the game and about doing
Speaker 2: the stuff for twenty years. So if you want to
Speaker 2: learn nothing and get opinions from that, have that all right,
Speaker 2: Spicy Travis out, Let's go ahead and call it a podcast.
Speaker 2: Come back on Wednesday, do the show over talking you
Speaker 2: about some more offseas and outlooks for the Miami Dolphins.
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