1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: And what you're talking about Doodoo Brown producing, there's another 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: record that has come back since that you produce There's 3 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: some Horrors in this Ouse, right, and now look at 4 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: that because what yeard you produce that record? 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: Uh, same year's Doodoo Brown. So I used to I 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: used to put out first. The thing that I did 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: first was I used to put out this thing called 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: club Tracks, and basically I would take these loops of 9 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: these songs and I was giving DJs a bridge, right, 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: So back then, you know you just had to be 11 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: fast withed or mixed with it or throw shit in. 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: I was like, but in Baltimore they were, they were mixers, 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: Baltimore DJ's mix and I gave them bridges with these songs. 14 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: So on one of the club Tracks album, I put 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: There's some Horrors in the House on the album, and 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 2: I put a whole bunch of experimental, just one off 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 2: songs that became huge. Miss Tony Horrores in the House, 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: a lot of shit on on them them. 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Somebody not in your fucking wildest dreams that you think 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: they haven't many years later that that song would be 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: remade in the sense with Megan the Stallion, Cardi B 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and Hell over a billion streams. 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Bro. 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean hit, that's some ship. Frank, listen, billion 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: fucking streams man. 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: And I tell young people all the time, don't sell 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: your publishing boy thirty years because your motherfucking ate now 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: thirty years you ate. 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: Frank, you know what, you know what it is? 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, Frank, hey by, Hey, listen, let me tell 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: you something, because what. 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Percentage of that song do you all? Cardi Megan? 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to say. 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Man, motherfucker, this is story time with less day year. 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: He own part of it. So that's why I said 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: you eat. 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why you smile. I'm not smiling because 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: this is the serious part of this sh what's that? 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: Listen? 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: When when I put out Doodo Brown and and and 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: this is gonna be the teaching moment for you, Okay, 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: when I put out Doodoo Brown back, then you had 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: to take your You make the record. You they they 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: you send it to a mastering plant, a mastering place, right, 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: the mastering place masters it. You have to pay for that, 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: and then the master sends it to the record pressing 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: plant the vinyl to press up the vinyl. Right, the 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: vinyl will cost you let's say it's a dollar a record. 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: It's a little bit more, but a dollar a record. Okay, 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna get back when they sell that record in 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: the store. You're gonna get back two dollars. Because here's 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: what happens. I I the first time I'm gonna put 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: Doodo Brown out. I call Becky at Liaison Records. Right, 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: Becky said, I'm gonna need ten thousand records. Well, how 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: much is that gonna cost me? They're gonna call it. 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna cost you ten thousand dollars to make ten 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: thousand records. Follow the math, everybody. I get ten thousand 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: records sent in for that Friday, they go in the 59 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: record stores in Baltimore, sells out before eleven o'clock. So 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: now I got to wait another week to put records 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: in the store. This time she wanted twenty thousand records, 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: so it costs twenty thousand dollars. Right, So now I'm 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: out thirty thousand dollars in nineteen ninety two. I don't 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: have no more money. The twenty thousand records sell out 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: again Friday afternoon. That Friday, if premier on WPGC in Washington, DC, boom. 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: The next order was fifty thousand records, which means I 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: need fifty thousand dollars. The part I didn't tell you. 68 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: The record stores have ninety days to pay the distributor, 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: and the distributor has ninety days from when they get 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: the money to pay you. So you may be one 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty days before you get any money back. 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: That means a half a year. So now I'm out 73 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars and it may be a half a 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: year before I get any money back. So now I 75 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: got to put out another twenty five thousand. 76 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: I don't have it. 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: I go to the bank. I had a relationship at 78 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: the bank. The banker happened to be black, and he 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: was like, i'll give it to you. Now, how much 80 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: money was this twenty five thousand. I send it to 81 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: the pressing plan press cop right. So now I'm fifty 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars in. It sells out that weekend. The 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: next week I get the call from my brother in 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: Miami and it wins on Power ninety six. 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: You know what. 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: The next order was one hundred thousand records. 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: They they extend you a line of credit. 88 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: Who's going to extend a line of the pressing plant. 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: No back then. 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: Now I'm only three weeks in because I don't have 91 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: no tra record. But the thing is they didn't. They 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: didn't because a lot of people were ordering a lot 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: of records, and there's a lot of records sitting in 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: people's garages this day. That us right, Okay, So at 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: that point I'm stuck. The majors are like, oh, we're 96 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 2: gonna give it a couple more weeks, so nobody would 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: sign me. I went to Luke, he didn't want it. 98 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: I went everywhere. Nobody wanted the fucking record. And then 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: my guy who was on the record with me, Stanley. 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: His uncle was named Joey Bonner. Joey Bonner was a 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: big record guy. He said, we're gonna, we're gonna take 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: you over to this label Warlock. That was Adam Levy. 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Adam Levy was the son of mister Levy in the 104 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: book The Hit Men. Okay, he said, we're gonna, we're gonna, 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna sign to you. We're gonna sign you. Gave 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: me a little advance, he said, but we need an album. 107 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: Bro got on a plane, went to Cincinnati to their 108 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: studio and did an album in two days. They put 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: the album out. I never saw another dime. I never 110 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: saw another dime on millions of records being sold. So 111 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: I did wares in the house they put it out. 112 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: I never saw a dime. So when you talk about 113 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Cardi B did this record, and I ate No. Cardi 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: B did the record and I got paid back because 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: God said, whatever they take from you, I'm going to 116 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: repay you ten times. And that's how God works. As 117 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: long as you stay faithful. 118 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: Amen, I can woo amen of that, bro. 119 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: Then that's how that happened. 120 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: And Warlike Records never cut you one fucking check. 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: Nope, they cut me your first advance and that was it, 122 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: and that was it. 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: That was it. 124 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: Never saw any more money. But the twenty fifth anniversary 125 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: of Frank Ski's coming out for all the DJs out there, 126 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: just wanted to let you know. 127 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: And you've been from a DJ perspective, being on the air, 128 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: being radio stations, like I said, from Baltimore to Atlanta, 129 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: like I said at the beginning Radio Hall of Famer, 130 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: what one thing have you noticed not noticed but one? 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: What is one main difference when you first got in 132 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: radio to now because you're still relevant. You still got 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: one of the top shows here in Atlanta, top two 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: shows DC and Atlanta. And you've been relevant for so long. 135 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: But what's one major thing or one thing that you've 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: you've noticed different years when you first got in radio 137 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: to now. 138 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: These new DJs don't do no service. They don't serve nobody. 139 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: They don't give back. Yeah, they do a turkey giveaway nigga. 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: Everybody does that. 141 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Street niggas do that. Yeah, don't do that. Don't mean nothing. 142 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but how much are you really giving back? Like, 143 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: how much are you really like volunteering hours like weekly, 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: going to schools, eating the kids, taking mentees, feeding the homeless. 145 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: Taking kids to the Galapagos Island? 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: How much are you serving? Like when I got in radio, 147 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: that was part of what we did. Remember the black 148 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: radio station was the heartbeat of the coming you have 149 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: to do everything beat. So these kids that are getting 150 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: in today don't know the service part. So because they 151 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: don't know the service part, they never really get ingrained. 152 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: In the community. 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: They never really get to be at Greg Street, they 154 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: never get to be a Ryan Cameron, those are from Atlanta. 155 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: They never get to be a big tater because they 156 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: don't they haven't put in the grind to give back. 157 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: There's some dope people out there, and I hear them 158 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: all the time. Man, there's a lot of people. I 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: love them on the radio. But you gotta give back, man, 160 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta serve the people and give back, Like, 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: what are you doing to give back? 162 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: And I've watched you and you just named two other 163 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: close friends of mine, Gregg Street and Ryan Cameron. I 164 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: watched all three of y'all give selfish like you. I'm 165 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: told that I could call you or call And it's 166 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: funny because I was having this conversation with somebody recently 167 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: about Greg Street, who's coming on the show as well, 168 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: and they was like, how is he still able to 169 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: connect with with these kids? And I said, man, you 170 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: can name a high school, middle school, Greg can name 171 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: a pe teacher there. He can name an assistant principal, 172 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: the prince of principal. He got everybody's number, everybody. He 173 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: doesn't take everybody fishing. Yeah, Like that's how he's been 174 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: able to stay connection and stay relevant. And it goes 175 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: into what you said. Guys like you, Ryan, Frank Tig, y'all, 176 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: y'all are here, y'all really in the community. 177 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 3: Man. 178 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: I talked to Tigger. 179 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: I talked to Tigger a couple of days ago when 180 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: Magic Johnson was here and and I just congratulated him 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: on the be et thing and everything. And I said, 182 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, I said, you you've given so much, you 183 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I said, I said, I 184 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: don't know if b I know, b Et has recognized you. 185 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: But really, when Bob Johnson's so e T. 186 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: You should have got a piece. 187 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: That should have been a no brainer. 188 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: Everybody who was on that air should have got a 189 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: little piece, even if it was one percent or half 190 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: a percent about it was of course, of course to 191 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: b T. 192 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: That was it, that that's made? That may be e T. 193 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: Donn Simpson, Donnie Simson, what was? But you know what 194 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: what what what he Sherry Carter? 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 196 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: And and what what Tigger said was he said, he said, 197 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: do you know how many of my interns I'm running businesses? 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 4: I said, me too, Wow, I said me too. 199 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: I said, I'll never be broke because I got so 200 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: many interns out there running ship right now, one of 201 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: them would give me a job. 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: And that'll let you know that your hands have been 203 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: involved to really push and make sh it happen. 204 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: Man. 205 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: I was at the Magic Johnson thing. I'm not going 206 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: to say her name. She came up to me. She 207 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: told me her name, and she said, do you remember me? 208 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: I said absolutely, I remember. And she's running a major 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: aide your company right now. Major And I was like, 210 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: I didn't know she was doing that. And I said 211 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: what you been doing? And she told me. 212 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit. 213 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: So you know how she remembers me twelve years old? 214 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: I did that trip when she was twelve. I did 215 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: that trip to South Africa. 216 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: I remember that. 217 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: And I took my sons Franklin, Harrison and Blake to 218 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: South Africa with a bunch of listeners from V one 219 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: O three. I remember her father took her and all 220 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: her siblings because I was taking my kids. 221 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: She said, I went to South Africa because of you. 222 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Damn damn twelve years old man. And now she's now 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: she's a big executive running. 224 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: Yes, of course, yeah, but it goes. 225 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: I can, I can. The list is vast. I got 226 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: off the Delta flight. I got off the Delta flight 227 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: coming coming back when I took Gezie fishing last weekend, right, 228 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: I get off the Delta flight. 229 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: The Gate Agent is stairs. 230 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: Like frank'ske I said, yeah, brother, you know he was 231 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: like he said, I played in the first Youth Bowl. 232 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: I played for Ben Hill. 233 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: Damn what was that bout ninety nine nine? When was 234 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: the first youth bot two thousand? 235 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably somewhere right there. I said, it's service, bro, 236 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: that service when you served, When you serve people, remember, 237 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: yes they do. God works in crazy ways. I'm gonna 238 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,479 Speaker 2: tell you this real quick, just show you how God works. 239 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to take my family to the to the 240 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: Georgia Mountains to an Airbnb, and you know, you hear 241 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: all these rumors like oh Airbn people won't rent you 242 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: if you're black, and all this other stuff. Right, So 243 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: I found this like nice little house up there, and 244 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to go fishing, and it just so happened 245 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: that this house has a trout lake on that on 246 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: the property. 247 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: It's like a private lake. 248 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: So I hit the guy and I said, I really 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: want to bring my wife and my four year old 250 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: daughter just to spend the weekend. And I signed it. 251 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Frank Ski Rodriguez, white guy hits me back. He said, man, 252 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: do you know how many times your inspirational vitamins saved 253 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: my life. Whoa God, whoa Whoa. I met him and 254 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: he said, I listened to your inspirational vitamin. And I 255 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: heard Bishop Eddie Long one day and I had to 256 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: go to the church white God went to all black 257 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: new birth, met his wife, she black, They got kids. 258 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: Their house. 259 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 3: Well, he said that saved his life. 260 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: Saved his life. 261 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: I do the inspirational vitamin because God wants me to 262 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: do it. It's part of service. I don't know who 263 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: it's going to affect. Sometimes it affects me. 264 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: Hey man, That's why we got Frank Ski on this show, 265 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: because this type brother he is. 266 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: Man. 267 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, it off Frank a 268 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: couple of things before I bring new face in. 269 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: Before you bring new face in, I'm gonna tell you 270 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: one story, but go ahead. 271 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Because I really respect your music, your music acumen, and 272 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: just your whole cachet. One producer, one songwriter. Who you're 273 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: picking to do your album? 274 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: One producer and one songwriter? 275 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: H m hmmm. 276 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: What kind of album am I doing? 277 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Whatever album you want? Frank Stott doing a rap album, 278 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Let's we gonna keep it. You're doing a rap album 279 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: right now, Pete Rock, Wow, that's your producer. 280 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: That's my producer because he loves music. 281 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: And you're doing an R and B album. 282 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: What songwriter Neil. 283 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: Mhmm. Interesting. 284 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: Interesting, I can't say R Kelly. 285 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: So so it's so R Kelly and Neo NEI okay, 286 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: Neil writes from his heart. 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: All right, So I want to tell you this story 288 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: before my face comes in ahead, all right, I just 289 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: want to say this. And I heard Red Alert mentioned 290 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: this on a podcast, and he was the first person 291 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: that I really heard publicly say this on a major podcast. 292 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: So one of the pivotal moments in hip hop was 293 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: a rap battle at Harlem World between Kolmo D and 294 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: the rapper Busy Bee. That was the first rap battle 295 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: that ever went down. 296 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: Right. 297 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: The rap battle happened at an event called the Harlem 298 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: World DJ Convention right u MC Convention, and it was 299 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: a contest YEP eighty two. It was a contest. 300 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: I was in New York. 301 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: My uncle was one of the owners of Harlem World, 302 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: and I told my uncle, I said, I'm gonna getting 303 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: this rap contest. I'm on on stage. One of the 304 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: other people in the in the amateur division, Dougie D 305 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: who's Dougie Fresh me Frank Ski get up there, and 306 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: I won the amateur division. 307 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: Over Dougie Fresh. 308 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, but not anymore. Dougie Fresh will blow me. 309 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: Out the water. 310 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: And back then you won on age. 311 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 5: But we were just we just kids. 312 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. The funny thing is when I got on stage, 313 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: I mentioned that I had come up from Florida and 314 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: I'm on this stage and I can play it for you. 315 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: And I said, I just came here to let you 316 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: know that the South can do this too. 317 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: So before before Andre three thousand, Frank, we're gonna need 318 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 6: that audio. Look, look, Frank, before Andre three thousand got 319 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: up in the Source Awards, what was that ninety five? 320 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: I got it. 321 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: I'll play it for you, but said. 322 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: The South got something to motherfucker say. That's right, Hey man, 323 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: this is my brother right here. Man, this dude right here. 324 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: We we we could talk for hours and hours a 325 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: put your philanthropy. Yeah, I mean this this guy right here, 326 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: I said, And I said at the beginning to show 327 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: the reason I want to have him on is because 328 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: people need to know absolutely that, they need to know 329 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: what he's done and what you know and your contributions. Frank, 330 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: and I just want to tell you Man, you know 331 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going you know, on a personal level the 332 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: things you've done for me. Man, Hey boy, we could, 333 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: like I said, we could talk music because you are 334 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: one of the few casts that have seen it from 335 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: like I say, give me not even with that story 336 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: of you being Dougie Fresh in the Harlem world, like 337 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: you've seen it from from New York to Baltimore to 338 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: the a You've been there, man, And I just want 339 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: to tell you, boy, I appreciate you. 340 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: I love you. 341 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my brother New Face in and let 342 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: me tell you something what New Face is about to 343 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: show you. Boy, I'm scared. Let me let me tell 344 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: you all. New Face of course, for those who watch 345 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: the show every week, he's the hip hop hoarder, and 346 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: he's really his contributions to the culture unmatched. 347 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: And he's coming in right now because he has something special. 348 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Uh okay, he's got a couple of questions probably for 349 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: you too. 350 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: Come on New. 351 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: Face story time with Legend Jerry. 352 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Of course every week we have our special special segment 353 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: with my brother. Uh, mister new Face was there? New 354 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: Face the hip hop hoarder, he's the hip hop historian. 355 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: There's so many adjectives. I've got use Frank Sky, but 356 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: legis know for new face to be here, and he's 357 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: got some he got some surprise. I don't know what 358 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: he might pull he gonna pull out some. But I 359 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: want to introduce my brother new face. 360 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 7: He got Hey man, thank you man. At first of all, like, 361 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 7: I'm really like honored to be in this position. Man, 362 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 7: you two are brothers that I'm really from the outside 363 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 7: looking in, like I look to for support, Like you 364 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 7: were one of them people that you spoke about, the 365 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 7: brother with the inspiration of vitamin How you inspired them. 366 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 7: You know, I had children at the time, and so 367 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 7: you on the radio when I'm taking their daughters to school. 368 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 7: You were that station that I turned to when I 369 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 7: was pumping the gas and I knew it was okay 370 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 7: if they were listening. You were in their arms while 371 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 7: I went in the store. You know, I knew they 372 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 7: were safe with you. The things you were doing before 373 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 7: people were even waking up. That was the inspiration to me. 374 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 7: And one of the things I wanted to just say 375 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 7: personally that the adversities you went through, you were that 376 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 7: person that I looked to where something happened, maybe a 377 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 7: position changed or a different station or a different disc 378 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 7: and your bounce back was just phenomenal. Brother, Like I 379 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 7: always seen, oh you know, you know, even before social 380 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 7: media and the streets, what you heard, what happened to 381 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 7: Frankin and every time you bounce back, And I just 382 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 7: wanted to personally say always looked at that as a 383 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 7: reflection and motivation. And as far as the children, me 384 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 7: and Jerry Clark talk about our children and how proud 385 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 7: he is. I want to just say, how proud you 386 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 7: are Franklin, Like I be with Gez and like it really, 387 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 7: you know, and I know Chris, I know Gez, but 388 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 7: I'm with him when I see Franklin. Yeah, I really 389 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 7: go to him and I'm just like it's crazy. So 390 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 7: one I wanted to say, one, how proud you are 391 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 7: of him? And how did that interaction, how did you 392 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 7: interact with that, and how did that come into fold 393 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 7: with that position for Franklin. 394 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: You know, Franklin has never wanted to be a musician 395 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: or anything. He just wanted to be on the business 396 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: side of it. He thinks like a businessman, and he 397 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: went to school at LSU and he thought he was 398 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: going to come out and work for Kevin lows, and 399 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about it, and he did everything. 400 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he started playing golf just because he was 401 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: going to come out and have this position. And right 402 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: around that time, Jay hit me and was like, what 403 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: do you think if I interview Franklin? And I was like, dope, 404 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: go right ahead. So I had to step back, and 405 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: he was like I just I said, look, listen, if 406 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: it don't work, it don't mean nothing between me and you. 407 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: It's you got to feel comfortable, you know. So I 408 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: make sure that I keep a balance between his relationship 409 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: with with Jez and what he's doing, and then me 410 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: and Jeez has a separate relationship. 411 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: We don't even talk about. 412 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: It because because you know, Franklin has to he has 413 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: to take the hits in the in the in the 414 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: knockdowns and and and the corrections and and he's learning. 415 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: But he's going to be a great music executive. And 416 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm proud of that because I want to make sure 417 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: when I'm not here, there's somebody keeping the legacy alive. 418 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: And when you are a parent and you have a 419 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: child that kind of follows in the industry that you're in, 420 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: it really means a lot. I have an inspirational vitamin 421 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: book coming out, and I got a whole chapter about 422 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: that that as black people, we need to be more 423 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: determined in making sure our kids follow what we do 424 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: because we've opened up a lot of doors. So if 425 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: you Jerry Clark, and you open up all these doors 426 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: for other people, why can't you open up the doors 427 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: for your own kids and keep the legacy alive. 428 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 4: And the problem is we. 429 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: Keep changing what we do from generation and we never 430 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: really build real wealth because we don't have nothing that 431 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: we can say. This business been around for one hundred years, 432 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: and the only way we're going to do that is 433 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: if our kids keep following what we do. So if 434 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: you're a doctor, you need to have doctor kids, just 435 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: like white woken Jewish people. If you in the music, 436 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: your kids need to do something with music. They can 437 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: be a musical lawyer, you know, anything they want to do. 438 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: This should be related. 439 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: To what because we've opened up too many doors. So 440 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm proud that he's in that place. He's getting his 441 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: knocks though it ain't easy. 442 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: It ain't He's. 443 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: Like, I'm working all these hours, dad, Oh my god, 444 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: I've gotten three hours leap. 445 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: I was like, boy, at least you getting paid ship 446 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: we was doing it wasn't getting paid. 447 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: So again that's as a fire. It's great to see 448 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 5: as well. 449 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 7: And like Jerry said, I did bring something out and 450 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 7: honestly I had this at at the house. 451 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 5: But I'm sending it. 452 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 7: You know, I'm decorating the boat for the Rock the 453 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: Bells cruise. So I had to cassette single. 454 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 4: Oh my god, this right. 455 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: There it is camera one right. 456 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I didn't have that physically, but I do 457 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 7: have that one. 458 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 5: But what I did was this old magazine. 459 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 7: When I was at ear Wax Records, I would get 460 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 7: the magazines right and there was in the back of it. 461 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: I showed Dallas this. It was this situation. That's this 462 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 5: photo here. Wow. 463 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 7: And can you let the list look how you had 464 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 7: a full head looked like damn texturizing his head. 465 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: Look at the waves and ship. 466 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: Wow. You remember that moment with the Mayor of Atlanta, right, the. 467 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: Mayor Mayor Bill Campbell. 468 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 7: And me and Jerry are just marveling over like how 469 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 7: many people we lost? 470 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 5: This right on there? If you know, you know. 471 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: From from Jim Crow. 472 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: This is crazy, man, this is unbelievable. 473 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 474 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 7: And lastly, the evolution recently, I was at the Tabernacle 475 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 7: and Gucci Man brought out t I. I know you're 476 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 7: in radio and you've been with these three gentlemen right here, 477 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 7: So what I. 478 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 5: Brought these out? And if you could just speak to 479 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: the evolution of these. 480 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 7: Gentlemen from your perspective and from radio personally and trap 481 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 7: music as a whole, you know it. 482 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: It really humbles me to see these three artists because 483 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: I because I know all three of them. I was 484 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: very close to to Jiz and and when Jez came out, 485 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: he came to one of my wine tastings at my house, 486 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: and he always tells me. He said, man, when I 487 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: walked into your house and I saw you know, your 488 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: family and and all the people in the house that 489 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: he was raising money for kids, he said, this is 490 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: what I want in my life. And and that meant 491 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: a lot, you know, uh t I. When t I 492 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: was on house arrest, he called me to come to 493 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: his house and rap with him and just. 494 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: Hang out with him. 495 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: When Gucci Man was in jail, he wrote me a 496 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: letter h from from jail, and I mean, it's like 497 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, and and I think that it's not because 498 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: oh I'm your hangout buddy. Oh, I'm gonna come and 499 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna turn up and whatever. It's not that, it's 500 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: like you have to be a person of a certain 501 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: moral character. When people are going through shit and they 502 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: need to talk to somebody, You're gonna be non judgmental 503 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: because I've been where they are. You're gonna be loving, 504 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna give it to them straight, and you're gonna 505 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: let them know what it is. And I think that 506 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: to see all of them and where they've grown to, 507 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: I'm just like super proud of the culture because they 508 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: are proof positive that you can go from being crazy 509 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: and rambunctious in the street. 510 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: It's all about growth. Yeah, that's the key work. 511 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 7: And speaking of being there for somebody personally, I remember 512 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 7: being at Jerry Clark's birthday party some years ago and 513 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 7: there was a story told that Jerry Clark needed letters 514 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 7: for the Judge of recommendations. 515 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: If I believe, Yeah, yeah, I needed I needed a letter, 516 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: just a character letter, because I was about to I 517 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: was under federal investigation. I was about to go do 518 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: prison time, and I needed some character letter. So I 519 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: reached out to people that I considered to be friends, family, 520 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. My attorney hit me and was like, 521 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: hey man, he was like and it wasn't even an 522 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't even think a day had passed, maybe two days, 523 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: and my attorney hit me and said, man, we already 524 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: got one letter. And I was like, oh cool, who 525 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: is it? He was like Frank Ski. He was like, man, 526 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: that you and all the stuff he was. All the 527 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: stuff you said about him is really true because this man, 528 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: he's a lot of people, some of their closest friends 529 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: and family never even come through as simple as it 530 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: is doing a character and his brother right here when 531 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: I needed him the most, he was there for me. 532 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: That's the type Caddy years and he's always been like that. 533 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: We watched our kids grow up and every everything. So 534 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, that's why it was so important New Face 535 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: to have him more storytime of legends. 536 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 7: I definitely wanted that show, that story to be told 537 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 7: on this platform. And lastly, these are some quick round questions. 538 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 5: Okay, real quick. You know hip hop turn fifty. 539 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 7: You know recently, out of these fifty years, your your 540 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 7: personal favorite hip hop moment. 541 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: My personal favorite hip hop moment of all time? It 542 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: would it would probably it would have to be. I 543 00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: was invited to New York for Jay Z's Reasonable Doubt 544 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: album release at Roseland, and I remember I'm outside and 545 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't get through the crowd and Mike Kaiser at 546 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: Deaf Jam at the time, Mike Kaiser was like, Ski 547 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: come through, and they pushed through and brought me in. 548 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: And I'm just like because I was I was living 549 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: at the time in Baltimore. And I walk in and 550 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: it's just like a sea of people and it was 551 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: the first time I really saw that raw raw that 552 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: hip hop was going through at the time, right, And 553 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: then I saw the crowds to see part and I'm like, 554 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: who the hell is that walking through the crowd and 555 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: it was like JD and the Brat and it was 556 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: just like and to see him get up on stage 557 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: and do ain't no nigga, it just it was just 558 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: it was just like a magical moment for me because 559 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: I just that was one of the albums that really 560 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: touched me most in my whole life, that Reasonable Doubt 561 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: album for so many reasons. 562 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, So that moment at Roseland And You've been hip 563 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 7: hop through the fifty years and hip hop has backlash 564 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 7: down forty percent with the sales. People were talking, you know, 565 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 7: you talked about the women in rap, the best and 566 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 7: worst things about hip hop in your opinion. 567 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: The best thing in hip hop is it doesn't it. 568 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: It has fed a lot of people. Man, it has 569 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: fed a lot of people. The worst part about it 570 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: is the same people are in charge. Say that again, 571 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: marinate on that, Say that again. We're gonna lead that 572 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: right way right okay. 573 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 7: And the last one, if you could bring back any 574 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 7: hip hop artists, and in this last fifty years that 575 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 7: we lost, we've lost a lot of them. If you 576 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 7: could bring back two to three of them, who would 577 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 7: you bring back? 578 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: And why? 579 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 4: I would bring back Pac? 580 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: Because I think Pac had the best balance of anybody. 581 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: Pac was the one who obviously knew black civil rights 582 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: and cultures so much, and he and he rapped about 583 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: it and from Brenda's had has a Baby to Dear 584 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: Mama to whatever. He always had a message. But he 585 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: was still gangster that he that he wanted to be. 586 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: I think he would have been an incredible actor now 587 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: and we'd have been debating who's better him or Denzel. 588 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: I really think we lost like Biggie way too early. 589 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: You know what, I mean, I just I just think 590 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: he had so much more to give. He wasn't even 591 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: in like in his spot yet. 592 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that I would. I would say. 593 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 7: Those two definitely. I appreciate your time. Thank you to 594 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 7: sit at this table. Thank you again. 595 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: Everybody. 596 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: This is my brother franks Sky. As you all know, Frank, 597 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: give everybody your social media handles before we get out 598 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: of here. 599 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: It's a at Frankski. That's it at Frankski. 600 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Story Time with Legendary Jerry. I am Jerry Clark a 601 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: k a. The Legendary Jerry. New face frank Ski. We 602 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: signing out. Thank you for tuning in, Thank you for 603 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: sha you. Story Time with the Legendary Jerry's hosted by me, 604 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: the one and Only Jerry Clark. Music has been provided 605 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: by July, the producer. 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