WEBVTT - Did Archimedes build a death ray?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the all neween Toyota Corolla. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant is with me, and Jerry's over there, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Stuff you should Know. That's right, The Audio

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<v Speaker 1>Adventure Hour. Yeah, I'm I'm telling you we need to

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<v Speaker 1>change our names to the Audio Adventure Hour. Oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to because people would be like, I said it

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<v Speaker 1>on a recent one and he said, boy, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stick, and now you can't even remember it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what you're talking about. Which episode

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<v Speaker 1>was it? I think it was Broken Bones Healing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty recent. It just dropped yesterday in real time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one. Yeah, but here we are in

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<v Speaker 1>October and it's long since forgotten. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>agonizing to like just talking what was it the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Tree or Green Stick where little kids bones break? Oh? Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard from a lot of people on that too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody had a hard time listening to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got some pretty gnarly pictures. Yeah, that dude

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<v Speaker 1>with the staples down his leg and the guy with

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<v Speaker 1>a crooked wrist like, don't send us this stuff anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>please stop, so Chuck. Yes, I know you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the work of economist Jeffrey D. Sachs, the Sackster, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't I'm don't ont me bore you too much. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to keep it brief. Of course, you're aware that

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<v Speaker 1>Sacks once said that humanity can most likely reproduce its

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<v Speaker 1>way out of any dire situation. Global warming, climate change, starvation,

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<v Speaker 1>reaching carrying capacity, running out of water, all of these

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<v Speaker 1>things we can paradoxically get our get ourselves out of

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<v Speaker 1>by producing more people, more people who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>consume more of these things. And the reason, of course

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<v Speaker 1>that Sacks is saying this is that the more people

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<v Speaker 1>that are produced, the higher the chances that some of

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<v Speaker 1>those people are geniuses. And the more geniuses you have

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<v Speaker 1>running around the planet at any given time, the more

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<v Speaker 1>likely those geniuses are to solve the big picture problems

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<v Speaker 1>that we face. We need more geniuses, So apparently we're

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<v Speaker 1>all supposed to reproduce more. Um, does he account for

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<v Speaker 1>all the dummies? Yeah, I guess what he's saying. When

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<v Speaker 1>you put the dummies against the geniuses. Even the dummies

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<v Speaker 1>can't on your mind, the work of enough geniuses, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so one genius can for the undoing of a thousand dummies.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, then you have the idiocracy problem. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to make sure that smart people are are

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<v Speaker 1>reproducing too. Oh, I thought you were gonna say a

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<v Speaker 1>movie based on one joke. I love that movie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a cute movie. I thought it was good. It's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth in for me. Um it didn't. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>actually it was okay, but it worth in. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not pooping. Um. Did you like off Space? Yeah? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't? I don't know, I don't. I think everybody

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet loved Office Space. Yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>big underground hit. Still is like, it's still part of

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<v Speaker 1>the vernacular for people to say things like flair and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always one guy in the office that's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it tail right. Every office has got someone quoting office

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<v Speaker 1>space or he's a straight shooter with upper management written

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<v Speaker 1>all over. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so um Archimedes. Yeah, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of office space, Well, we're talking about genius, isn't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's something to be a genius now, But when you

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<v Speaker 1>are a genius, you basically expected to immediately sell out

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<v Speaker 1>to the man or the government, and your ideas are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be used for nefarious reasons against everybody else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of how it works a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that Matt Damon soliloquy and Goodwill Hunting

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<v Speaker 1>where he's Yeah, it's probably pretty accurate. Um, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a time, however, where just being a genius was you

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<v Speaker 1>could change humanity forever. And you can make an an

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<v Speaker 1>argument that it was easier to be a genius before

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<v Speaker 1>because you there was so much to be discovered. I

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree, But it's still you should take your head

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<v Speaker 1>off to guys like Archimedes, some of the earliest geniuses,

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<v Speaker 1>because Archimedes was thank you you just did. Didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>off my cap. He was somebody worth taking your hat

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<v Speaker 1>off to let alone. The one thing that's possibly the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing that he figured out was calculating pie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so throw the people who can like calculate pie a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty places or whatever, just out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Just throw him out in the nearest window, people who

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<v Speaker 1>are standing next to them right now. Because this guy

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<v Speaker 1>came up with pie originally. Yeah, he calculated pie um.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know who Archimedes is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a mathematician and a physicist and engineer, inventor

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<v Speaker 1>and all around renaissance man pre Renaissance. Well, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about him a little bit. He was born in two

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven b c. In Syracuse, Orange, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>modern day Sicily. Yeah. So he was just an Italian

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<v Speaker 1>or well that back then it was a Greek city state. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know like Sicily, Sicily, Yeah, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>old thing Sicily, Sicily. And he was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>o g Sicilians, a Syracusian. Yeah, and he lived his

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<v Speaker 1>whole life there and um, later in his life he

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<v Speaker 1>would do a lot to try and protect his fair city. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So basically he's walking around Syracuse. Is aside from going

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<v Speaker 1>and being educated in egypt Um, which is where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the early Greek thinkers went to study. Um, he,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, lived his life in Syracuse, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was basically allowed to roam around being the local odd

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<v Speaker 1>ball because he was so far and he was he

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<v Speaker 1>played that part pretty well. Yeah. Not only did he

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<v Speaker 1>calculate pie first, he um worked. It wasn't quite calculus,

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<v Speaker 1>because calculus wasn't invented, but they might as well have

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<v Speaker 1>been calculus. He's proofs he was coming up with about

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand years before calculus was invented, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>pre calculus and not that classic in the eighth grade

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<v Speaker 1>that you hated. Um, I shouldn't knock math. I always

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<v Speaker 1>knock math. I'm sorry, don't apologize to me. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hatred towards math. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>school the utes of today, though, Go to take pre calculus.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna love it. Yes, that's what I say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're telling anything they don't already know though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like kids who math appeals to thee I

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<v Speaker 1>have a deep admiration for those kids and don't progrudge

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<v Speaker 1>them anything. I think you're born into it. Um. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're into math and you're a kid right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you have you're smarter than Chuck and Josh put together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a big advantage in life too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because your checkbook is going to be that's right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He came up with the principle of hydro statics displacement,

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<v Speaker 1>calculating like you're the volume of the human body or

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<v Speaker 1>really anything. But at first it was a human body

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<v Speaker 1>because he did it by getting in a bathtub and

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<v Speaker 1>its spilled over. Let's talk about this makes sense? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and what did he do when he figured out that?

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<v Speaker 1>He ran around naked? Apparently shouting eureka, which means I've

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<v Speaker 1>got it. Let's talk about the story behind us. So

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<v Speaker 1>there was a king who had a pretty favorable opinion

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<v Speaker 1>of Archimedes, King Hero the second, I believe, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>King Hero came to our comedies. This is a story

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<v Speaker 1>with a crown that a local goldsmith had made. He

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<v Speaker 1>had commissioned a local goldsmith to make for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>the king said, hey, our commedies. I suspect I gave

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<v Speaker 1>this local goldsmith the gold to make this count, but

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<v Speaker 1>I suspect that he replaced some of the gold with silver,

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<v Speaker 1>and that this isn't a pure gold crown. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to gold crown. Can you help me? You're smart guy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you help me figure that out? And our community

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<v Speaker 1>is just like, oh man, this is a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>And he thought and thought and thought and thought for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. And it was when, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in a bath he was lowering himself into

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<v Speaker 1>the bath that some water spilled over that he came

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<v Speaker 1>up with what's called Archimedes principle of hydrostatics, which basically

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<v Speaker 1>says that um the the an object, the volume of

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<v Speaker 1>an object just places an equal volume of water. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we have things like airships or not water but

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<v Speaker 1>fluid which can be water or air or gas, liquid

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<v Speaker 1>or gas. So we have like airships, a ka Zeppelin's ship, ships,

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<v Speaker 1>ship ships as yet things that float and don't sink.

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<v Speaker 1>We can thank our our communities for the math that

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<v Speaker 1>led to those. But anyway, so he's got this crown right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was when he was in the bath that

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<v Speaker 1>he realized how we could figure out how the crown

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<v Speaker 1>is pure, whether it was or not. He weighed the

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<v Speaker 1>crown and then got a bar of gold that he

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<v Speaker 1>knew was pure that way, the exact same as the crown.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a cylinder of water or bats of water.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a receptacle of water filled to the brim

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<v Speaker 1>with water, Like we said water he drops the gold

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<v Speaker 1>into is my natural aversion to understanding math showing I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it is. He has this receptacle of water

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<v Speaker 1>filled to the brim. He takes this bar of pure gold,

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<v Speaker 1>drops it into the receptacle and it just places water

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<v Speaker 1>just placed his place, right. So now he takes the

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<v Speaker 1>gold out and the volume of water has been reduced,

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<v Speaker 1>some of it's filled out, right, that's equal to the

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<v Speaker 1>volume which produced by the density of the gold of

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<v Speaker 1>the gold. Okay, so now he's got the gold crown.

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<v Speaker 1>If he drops the gold crown into this receptacle of

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<v Speaker 1>water and it brings the water up to the exact

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<v Speaker 1>level that it was before the gold bar was dropped

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<v Speaker 1>in there, that means that the density of the gold

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<v Speaker 1>crown and the density of the equal weight gold bar

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<v Speaker 1>are the same, meaning that the gold crown is pure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the key I don't think you mentioned at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning was that the gold bar he had was

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly the same amount of gold as what was used

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<v Speaker 1>to make the crown, same way, so it should have

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact density. Now, silver has a different density

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<v Speaker 1>than gold, so the same weight of a bar of

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<v Speaker 1>gold and a bar of silver have different densities, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that if the guy had added some silver to this,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of water wouldn't come back up to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So it happened who knows who cares. Oh wait, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an ending to that story. The ending is

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<v Speaker 1>that he figured this out and uh he ran naked

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<v Speaker 1>to the street shot in Eureka, Eureka. Oh man, Now

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<v Speaker 1>I have to know was the gold crown gold or

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<v Speaker 1>was it gold and silver. We're gonna go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>say it's gold, because if it were gold and silver,

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<v Speaker 1>then the king would surely have to slay the goldsmith.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have the impression that King Hero the second

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<v Speaker 1>of Syracuse was a fairly benevolent, beneficent, beneficent king. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>before we're go any further, what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>a message break? That's great? Alright, so our comedian has

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<v Speaker 1>done talking for the rest of the podcast. No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>He Uh so he was a smart guy, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that story equals. Yes, he um he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>an inventor, but he was more than inventor in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a modifier of inventions. Like he didn't invent

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<v Speaker 1>the catapult old, but he made the catapult into a

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<v Speaker 1>variable range weapon instead of a fixed range weapon, much

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<v Speaker 1>more useful. Yes, he didn't invent um the water screw.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't been in the water screw. I think didn't

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<v Speaker 1>he Apparently it's an Egyptian really thing that he found

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<v Speaker 1>an improved Okay, well, good for him, though I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that like, well they call it our comedes screw.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, ever, the impression he wouldn't have called it that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was much of a self promoter.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a producer, you think, so, yeah, he just

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<v Speaker 1>got the work done, alright. So eventually his his tinkering

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<v Speaker 1>and his obsession, like he would get really fixated on

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<v Speaker 1>his work, would lead to his death. Um. Although he

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<v Speaker 1>was old. He was seventy five, and uh, that's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be old for that age. Oh sure before the commentary, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>heck yeah, he was really old. Uh. And a Roman soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen varying accounts of this story, um, but the

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<v Speaker 1>gist of it is is that a Roman soldier came

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<v Speaker 1>in and said, hey, you need to go meet with

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<v Speaker 1>General Marcellus, because Marcellus we're in charge here now. Marcellus

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<v Speaker 1>wants to meet with you. Um. He's got a briefcase,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and a mysterious band aid on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>his neck. Um. And so he goes in there and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, you know, General Marcellus wants to meet with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Archimedes was in the middle of uh his math,

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<v Speaker 1>basically trying to come up with some new proofs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's creating a geometric proof or something, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the middle of it. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had drawn this on the floor. It was all drawn out,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, one account I saw what he said. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm too busy. I can't go see him now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy got angry and killed him with a sword.

0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.080
<v Speaker 1>You found that he was beaten to death. Either way,

0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.440
<v Speaker 1>he died, but he had said something along the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of don't disturb my circles, very dismissively to this Roman soldier,

0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.680
<v Speaker 1>which pissed him off. Yeah, and so the Roman soldier

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<v Speaker 1>killed him one way or another exactly. And apparently, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Roman soldier didn't realize who he was. Well, No,

0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.000
<v Speaker 1>General of Marcellus was not too happy, no, because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to use him. Yeah, our comedies was very well

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<v Speaker 1>known around this area. Um. And the whole reason that

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<v Speaker 1>a Roman soldier was even in our comedies's house in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place was because they were besieging and had

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<v Speaker 1>been besieging Syracuse for two years. Two full years. Well, yeah,

0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they Syracuse was surrounded by a sixteen mile wall, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was very fortified city, right, So it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of place you could just waltz in and siege,

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<v Speaker 1>right like this will be an afternoon siege. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a two year siege. So here's the weird thing. For

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty years of King Hero the second reign Um,

0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this city state, the Greek city state of Syracuse, allied

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<v Speaker 1>itself with Rome. Everything was fine, it was a time

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<v Speaker 1>of peace. The Romans were, you know, pretty much conquering

0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the world at the forefront of everything, yeah, and taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of their friends, including Syracuse. But um, King Hero's

0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:04.320
<v Speaker 1>successor has son Um decided to go and allie Syracuse

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<v Speaker 1>with Carthage. The general Hannibal had recently had some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good victories and it caught the attention of Hero's successor,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a result that his successor was assassinated in

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<v Speaker 1>like thirteen months, and there's a lot of civil strife

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of came about as a result of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Syracuse was divided. We should allie with Carthage, we should

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<v Speaker 1>a lie with Rome. Well, whatever the case was, there

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<v Speaker 1>complete alliance to Rome had been shattered, and Rome sent

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<v Speaker 1>General Marcellus to negotiate at first, I guess, to get

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<v Speaker 1>them back on their side. And when negotiations failed, he

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<v Speaker 1>started to attack the city. And when he attacked the city,

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<v Speaker 1>Archimedes war machines were unleashed upon the Romans. Well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to Archimedes and they said, you're a smart guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you figure out some it's some innovative ways to

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<v Speaker 1>thwart these people? And he said, hey, it's no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh So one of the things he came

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<v Speaker 1>up with, and I love his warp machines because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of cool stuff. It's all like back in

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<v Speaker 1>that day, it was all very practically oriented with pulleys

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<v Speaker 1>and levers and things. You know. It wasn't like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear fission's like, hey, let me think how I can

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<v Speaker 1>use these drop these big heavy things onto people the

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<v Speaker 1>best with the with the people that I have at

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<v Speaker 1>my disposal, which is a lot of people. Uh. One

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing was the iron hand or the iron

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<v Speaker 1>Archimedes claw. Uh. This was basically it's like a large

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<v Speaker 1>lever with a grappling hook um and that would hang

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh flush with the walls. So they wouldn't see it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then when the ships would come into

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<v Speaker 1>the harbor, they would swing this thing out. They would

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<v Speaker 1>lower the boom literally and this grappling hook would attach

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<v Speaker 1>onto the front of a ship or any part of

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the ship would be great, and they would have all

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<v Speaker 1>these people and oxen and things that would immediately yank

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<v Speaker 1>it up and basically yank these ships either in half

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<v Speaker 1>or tip them over and capsize them, or drop them

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<v Speaker 1>in the front end out of the water and then

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<v Speaker 1>release it and then drop it back in the water

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<v Speaker 1>where the boat would break or capsize right exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>the the sailors would be shaken off. And these are

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<v Speaker 1>big ships. Supposedly, Um, they were called quinn Querines. Yeah,

0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that was the ship of the day. Yeah, And those

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<v Speaker 1>things weighed about a hundred metric tons and um, like

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<v Speaker 1>four dudes on these things were not small. They weren't small.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was supposedly this giant iron claw that could

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<v Speaker 1>pick them up and shake the people off and then

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ship back into the seat. And they think

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<v Speaker 1>that it was probably balanced with the counterweight rather than

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<v Speaker 1>say like pulice, which some accounts have it as um

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<v Speaker 1>because the counterweight would be it would balance out the

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<v Speaker 1>weight of this huge arm and the claw um, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>that just a few people could move it up and

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<v Speaker 1>down inside to side when they needed to because the

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<v Speaker 1>bull because the way it was countered. And again, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't invent this, but he modified existing things to make

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<v Speaker 1>war machines. Basically. Uh, And we should say it's entirely

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<v Speaker 1>possible the iron hand or iron claw didn't exist or

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<v Speaker 1>existed in some less fantastic fashion less um less James

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<v Speaker 1>West fashion um. But it's possible and probable even that

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<v Speaker 1>it was. There was something like that that was used

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<v Speaker 1>during the Siege of Syracuse. Yeah. That's the coolest things

0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to me is that this stuff, this is so long

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<v Speaker 1>ago that we don't have the great records, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of speculation of how he did it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like how the pyramids built. You know. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fun to sit around and tease your brain with

0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that stuff or build these things like Discovery Channel did

0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.479
<v Speaker 1>on their show super Weapons of the Ancient World. They

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<v Speaker 1>built an iron hand. Did it work? Heck yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>did nice. I mean it's not it's very basic. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me lower this big hook onto your ship and

0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 1>use a lot of force to pull it up and

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<v Speaker 1>then drop it. It's like the claw that you used

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<v Speaker 1>to like win stuff at the bowling alley out of

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<v Speaker 1>those machines. Uh, well, an upside down version of that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is it like a it's a hook. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>grappling hook. Okay, but the nomenclature of the day that

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<v Speaker 1>was called a claw, I got you. Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's take another a little second for a message break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so let's get back to it. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have the iron claw that was probably for real and

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<v Speaker 1>used against Rome because it was mentioned several times by um,

0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:45.360
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily contemporary historians, but Plutarch mentions it in Plutark

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of the historical recording of the day

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<v Speaker 1>for our comedies, but it was about two fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>after our comedies lived. Um, there was another one that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool. May not have existed, but it was possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's called Archimedes death ray. Cool name. It's a

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.600
<v Speaker 1>great name, the greatest name for a weapon ever, probably

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>our comedies death ray. What about a band name. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that someone has taken that one in, don't you think, Yeah,

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 1>there's an Archimedes death right out there. Okay, alright, fine,

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 1>our comedies deathrays taken. It's got to be. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is a cool thing. The thing is is it's not mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mentioned a couple of times by some historians, even

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<v Speaker 1>a A a couple that are fairly close who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>fairly close after the Siege of Syracuse. Well, now, what's

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<v Speaker 1>considered fairly close a couple hundred years, so Galen does

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<v Speaker 1>not vol into that category about three fifty years after. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's say Galen mentions it, but he doesn't call

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<v Speaker 1>anything a death ray obviously. He he basically says, um

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<v Speaker 1>that Archimedes burned ships remotely. I don't remember exactly how

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>he says it, but he just kind of he says

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<v Speaker 1>that they Romans ships burned from Afar because of one

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<v Speaker 1>of archimedes weapons, and he just mentions it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>until five a d. About seven hundred years after the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they named it, that a guy named Anthemius

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<v Speaker 1>of Trellis, who is talking about mirrored surfaces, mentions off

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<v Speaker 1>handedly that Archimedies probably used a mirrored parabola to burn

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>these ships. So it was known that Archimedes used something

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>to burn ships remotely. Um. And then it's not until

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<v Speaker 1>five D that Anthemius says this is probably what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea of the Archimedes that's way really kind

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.240
<v Speaker 1>of took shape from there. Yeah. And if you've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen one in action, because a lot of people tried

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to recreate these very successfully. Yeah, there's a that video.

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<v Speaker 1>The nineteen year old kid in two thousand eleven named

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Jacques Mayne from Indiana. He built one out of

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<v Speaker 1>a satellite dish and little discobald mirrorses and uh it

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<v Speaker 1>worked like man, he could melt stuff and melt aluminum

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and catch things on fire and he's pretty ingenious. Somehow

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.239
<v Speaker 1>melted a rock or singe the rock somehow. Yeah, and

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>he said it committed suicide. He thinks it burned itself

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<v Speaker 1>in a barn, like the sun hit it wrong and

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>it caught the barn on the fire. But apparently he's

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<v Speaker 1>making a new one. I don't know how he's coming

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 1>along on that, Yeah, but it's a pretty interesting little

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 1>video to watch. Yeah. But the idea is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>using you're harnessing the energy of the sun just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like you would have a magnifying glass to create

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<v Speaker 1>a very small focal point of extreme heat to catch

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<v Speaker 1>a boat on fire. Right, And this is but this

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<v Speaker 1>is from reflection. You're using mirrors. The more mirrored and

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:51.359
<v Speaker 1>polished the surfaces, the more um genuinely it reflects the

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>original beam of light back. And if you can take

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<v Speaker 1>him and put him in a concave, uh parabola, you

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<v Speaker 1>can focus them all to a point, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you focus them on to that point, you have, however,

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>many little mirrors reflections focus into a beam that you

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>can use to set something remotely on fire. Now, did

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>they have magnifying glasses at the time. They have mirrord surfaces, No,

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>not mirrored, but did they have magnifying glasses they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know they would have used mirrors. No, No, I'm not

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>saying that. I'm asking if they had magnified glasses at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I don't believe. So, Okay, it's possible, because

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<v Speaker 1>my I was wondering, if it's so much better than mirrors,

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they have used magnified glasses. And my only

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>thing I'd come up with is maybe they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>them at the time. I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how old magnifying glasses are it seems like that's something

0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be pretty old. Yeah, you know, I don't know,

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll look it up. Did they have they had glass

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>back then? Right, surely, well if they had mirrors. Oh yeah, alright,

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So we did a podcast on mirrors. That was a

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>good one. Yeah, surprisingly good one. Remember all the weird

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>little fat x about mirrors. Pretty cool. They're creepy things. Yeah,

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and the more highly polished, we learned, the uh more

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>energy they can bounce back at you. So that's what

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 1>Archimedes used. Yeah, if you're using sunlight, sunlight has with

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 1>a heat energy, so you're bouncing heat energy back. And again,

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>if you use a parabola with a bunch of different mirrors,

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>you can concentrate that heat energy into one little spot

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and you can hit something and set it on fire,

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.719
<v Speaker 1>especially a wooden romanship. Yeah, and legend has it that

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>he burned a lot of them there in the Mediterranean Sea. Uh.

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>They were parked anywhere from two hundred to a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>feet away and he burned them all or not all,

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but enough to where they were like, we're getting out

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>of here because I don't know what this death ray is,

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but it sucks. So, like you said, some people have

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<v Speaker 1>tried to recreate this um. In addition to Eric Jacques

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Maine Um of Indiana, a group of M I. T

0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>scientists created one in two thousand five, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>they it was a ten ft version of a Roman ship,

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<v Speaker 1>just basically like the side of one, made of red

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>oak and um. They used a hundred and twenty seven

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>one ft square flat mirrors arranged in a prebble. And

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>there's video of this on the web too. So it

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>word caught it on fire, Yeah, after ten minutes of

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>sunlight uninterrupted by clouds. But that raises some issues here. Um,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>this boat was stationary. It was just like basically a

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a beam of wood was on top of the on

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the roof of a building and not in the sea. Yeah,

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't moving. So if you are if your

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>target is a boat, it's gonna move in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna have some sort of motion in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, that's gonna make the area that you're beams

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<v Speaker 1>hitting kind of jump all over the place. Well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole key to the death ray was you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have that fixed. It's got to sit there long

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<v Speaker 1>enough to heat up. And if it's moving all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. It's not gonna be effect although I bet

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<v Speaker 1>some dudes on the boat as it passed by them

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<v Speaker 1>were like, ah right, you know yeah, if you go,

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<v Speaker 1>um the sovereign building, just one building over, it has

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<v Speaker 1>um a bit of a convex or concave surface, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you stand where it's reflecting that light, it is

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<v Speaker 1>way hotter really than just like a foot over foot

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<v Speaker 1>over this week just on the side one just dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Good check it out. I don't know if it's dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uncomfortable for sure. So some other dudes called the MythBusters.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that I was prounced MythBuster meath Meathbusters uh tried

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<v Speaker 1>twice in seasons one and three, and both times they

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<v Speaker 1>declared it busted because they could not recreate the death

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<v Speaker 1>ray of Archimedes. But again the m I T Group

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<v Speaker 1>was able to recreate it, and a Greek researcher in

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one to me because he actually did that

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<v Speaker 1>on a boat in the water. Yeah, he he set

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<v Speaker 1>some rowboats that were on the water or a robot

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. But the way he got around the motion

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean was he used like fifty soldiers. He

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<v Speaker 1>had live mirrors. Yeah, that could just adjust their position

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<v Speaker 1>slightly to make up for the the ocean's emotion. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good idea. You got how many guys, fifty dudes

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<v Speaker 1>with five ft by three ft mirrors? And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's about the simplest way to recreate this. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to build something. You just gotta have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of mirrors and a lot of people. Yeah, and some time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's fine, and a Sicilian army that's not doing

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot, right then, I guess they weren't. So

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<v Speaker 1>it is very possible for our committee's death ray to

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<v Speaker 1>have existed, or for it to have worked. Whether it

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<v Speaker 1>existed or not is highly unlikely. Here's some reasons. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>it was never used again. That's my biggest like sticking

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<v Speaker 1>point is if it was a death ray and it

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<v Speaker 1>worked so well, why didn't they ever use it again?

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<v Speaker 1>Another point, a lot of historians wrote about the Siege

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<v Speaker 1>of Syracuse, they mentioned the iron claw, different historians. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>mentions the death ray until seven years after it's another

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>sticking point. Could have been a h artistic license at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe could have been um. Another thing is that even

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<v Speaker 1>if it had been deployed in the field during the siege, Uh,

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Romans ships all had firefighters aboard, and they wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been too terribly threatened by something that caused like a

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<v Speaker 1>smoldering fire that they could easily get to and put out.

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<v Speaker 1>All you had to do is splash some water on

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that area and it would just completely undo any of

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<v Speaker 1>the heat that you've generated in that spot. Hey, Hercules,

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<v Speaker 1>go pe on that exactly. Hercules, like, I compete on

0:28:52.240 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that plenty. That's my hercules and nice. Uh are those

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<v Speaker 1>all the reasons that they Oh, there's a whole list

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>of them. There's military practical, all sorts of reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>it probably didn't exist. I'm surprised that some modern military

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<v Speaker 1>force hasn't tried to do some sort of version of this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like harness the sun to kill. We have

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<v Speaker 1>missiles and guns, so we don't really need the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like logs and Trey Boucher's. Yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 1>you never know what if it was, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>to work on it. Well, wait a minute, was it

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Superman's that like a satellite like captures

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>all the sunlight and then shoots it back. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a James Bond. There was some movie in like the

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<v Speaker 1>late seventies or early eighties where that happened. Maybe Goldfinger.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, have you to a kill Boy? That one?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a stinker. It's the best one. Roberts with Christopher Walker, great, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Walking Grace, Grace Slick, No, Grace Jones. Yes, have you

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>ever heard her cover of Joy Divisions? She's Lost Control?

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>And that was good. It's like a like kind of

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like a reggae dub version of it. It's really good. Yeah,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>she what happened to her? I don't know? She was

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<v Speaker 1>an odd duck, Grace Jones. If you listen to stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you should know right in and let us know how

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. Yeah. I mean the last thing I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing her and was Boomerang Eddie Murphy movie. Remember she

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that wasn't She was very funny in that. Actually, yeah,

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>she's she's probably pretty cool. I bet she's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So that's Grace Jones. It's all there is to it.

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<v Speaker 1>She did exist or did she um? If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn more about Grace Jones or the Archimedes death rate,

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<v Speaker 1>you can type Archimedes into the search bar at how

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works dot com. And I'm not gonna spell that

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<v Speaker 1>for you. You're gonna have to figure it out yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And since I said search parts time, then for the

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<v Speaker 1>listener mail, I'm gonna call this uh collagen or weird collagen. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to your podcasts about broken bones and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the bottle role of collagen in the body.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I figured to be a perfect opportunity to send in

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<v Speaker 1>this email. I have this weird and rare condition called

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<v Speaker 1>Eller's dan Los syndrome e d S. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of that? I didn't. Essentially, it's a defect in

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<v Speaker 1>the makeup of my collagen. It's almost like my collagen

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<v Speaker 1>is chewing gum and keeps stretching and stretching and as

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<v Speaker 1>a result, doesn't hold my joints in place. I've had hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even thousands of dislocations since it first started affecting

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<v Speaker 1>me badly nine years ago, when I was eleven. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>every joint in my body has been dislocated at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of my left elbow. Is it painful? It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be painful. Wow, we'll find out here in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. There's no cure for the condition, but my

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<v Speaker 1>physiotherapy helps as it allows muscles to build up around

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<v Speaker 1>the joints and stabilize them, thus doing the job that

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<v Speaker 1>college and can't. My e d S is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better now my shoulders only ever dislocate every few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Yeah, very tough. It's manageable with medication, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud to say I've made it through my first

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<v Speaker 1>year of university despite these occasional setbacks. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>really cool if you could do a show on e

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<v Speaker 1>d S, as it has a lot of different effects

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<v Speaker 1>on its sufferers and it's pretty interesting. Uh. Finally, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you for providing me with hours and

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<v Speaker 1>hours of entertainment and information during the long nights of

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<v Speaker 1>being kept awake by pain. Oh no, it is painful

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<v Speaker 1>and it's painful. Man, this is rough. I've learned a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot from you guys, and you never fail to

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<v Speaker 1>cheer me up. That is from George in Brighton, UK. George,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a tough guy. In congratulations, I'm finishing your first

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>year man at college. Yeah, my buddy Dave has a

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder that dislocates quite a bit, or not quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but it happened five or six times since I've known him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like George's not like George. Every couple of weeks is

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<v Speaker 1>good for George. Yeah, hats off to you, George. Heck yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>uh maybe we will do an E D Yester morn.

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