1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Professor accuses me of cheating, but I prove him wrong. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: I'm actually a genius. Okayop, this is OKAYOP. I'm Samuel 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Daughter and I'm John Fry and we tell the funniest 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: stories on the Internet. And John I used to So 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: I used to study engineering at UCLA, and one of 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: the main ways you would prepare for the test is 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: you would go to the test bank. 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: Do you have it? Did you ever have a test bank? Yeah? 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: The test bank. You know about test banks. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: So basically it was a either you had it for 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: for your fraternity or your club, or sometimes the school 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: would have it, and every person that was part of 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: that club that came before would give their old tests 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: to the test bank, and to study, you would go 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: look through all these old tests. 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Right. 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Often for our ancient, ridiculously old professors, they were like, 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I gave up teaching a long time ago, so they 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't really teach the class. But two they would reuse 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: all of their questions for like decades, let's go. And 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: so often you would go and get you know, get 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: a get a test from the test bank, and it 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: would be question for question what was on the test 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: that was given that day? 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Glorious. 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: But what really sucked is if you didn't have the 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: test bank or didn't know about the test bank, the 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: test was really hard. Right, So this story actually relates 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: to that that dilemma of. 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Test or be tested. 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: One very quick quip, I passed my online driver's permit 32 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: test entirely through Yahoo answers. 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: So shout out Yaho answers. 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: Shout out Yahoo answers, Thank you for taking it before. 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the test before us. 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 2: That's right. 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Professor accuses me of cheating, but I prove him wrong. 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually a genius. When I was in college, I 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: took a class with this gem of a professor. On 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: the first day of classy house, Oh many people thought 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: they would get today, this being an engineering school where 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: a sea actually was average. Something like five students at 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the class of sixty raised their hands and then he announced, that's. 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: So many days he would give oute. That's suit. 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: So I love how you just asked the students how 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: many a's you want? Five people raise their hands. Get 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: have more self confidence? 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Come on. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: All of our tests for that class were multiple choice 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: exams we took online. We were allowed to refer to 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: our notes during the test, and we were allowed to 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: study from old tests as long as we didn't refer 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: to the old test during the exam. Fair enough, I 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: studied for the first test, but didn't have access to 55 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: any old exams, so I did fine, but not great. 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: By the time the second exam rolled around, I had 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: made a friend who was in a fraternity that had 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: multiple copies of old exams from this professor. 59 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: U huh. 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: We and a couple of others took advantage of the 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: rule allowing us to study from old tests. We quickly 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: discovered that on these fifty question tests, the professor had 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: a repertoire of about seventy five questions he pulled from 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: on the first copy of the test we studied from. 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: We took the time to work through the answers to 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: make sure that we understood in every one of them. 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: But the time we got to the fourth copy, we 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: could answer before we even finished reading the question, so 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: they were fricking prepared. Wow, exam time rolls around, just 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: as with previous years. He pulled the questions he asked 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: in the exam from the same file of questions. I 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: think it took me about twelve minutes to answer everything correctly. 73 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be an hour test. 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: Okay, you can't. You can't go that hard. You say, 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: what that hard? 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: Just just do the twelve minutes and then just doodle 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: for just wait, eighteen minutes. 78 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: He gave himself away. Hindsight, I probably should have let 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the clock run for a bit we had an hour, 80 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: but I went ahead and submitted it because I had 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: other things to do. I checked it with the others 82 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I studied with the next day, and all of them 83 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: had gotten that ninety percent plus. Sweet definitely using that 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: plan for test three and the final day, we all 85 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: received an email from the professor letting us know. 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: That we are being reported to the dean for an 87 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: honor code violation. 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: No he claimed that he had never in all his 89 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: skars had. 90 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: Anyone make better than in eighty on one of his 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: tests before. So the fact that we made all over 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: ninety percent was clear proof that we had did. 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: And he's been teaching for one hundred years, so you know, 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: it's rare. 95 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: This being an engineering school. 96 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: We were all nerds, and we're pretty scared about receiving 97 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: such an email, but we agreed the best course of 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: action was to talk to the professor before he went 99 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: to the Dean to tell our side of the story 100 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: and see if we could sort things out. We reached 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: out to him and he agreed to meet with us 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: after class. When we met with him and laid out 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: our case, he was surprisingly receptive to our explanation. I 104 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: think in reality he didn't want to go through the 105 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: hassle of reporting us all to the Dean because he 106 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: was old, said in his ways didn't. 107 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 2: Want to do much work. 108 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: So we left the meeting feeling pretty good and agreed 109 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: within our study group we would keep studying from the 110 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: old tests. 111 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: Well. 112 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: About a week before test three, this professor announces to 113 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: the class that. 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: Because some of us had found the previous tests so easy, 115 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 5: the next one would have twice as many questions in 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 5: the same amount of time. And then, being the cheeky 117 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 5: soobi am, I asked him as I was leaving the class, 118 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: what would happen if someone made one hundred on this test? 119 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: He said, God help you on the final. 120 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: So we used the same approach in studying for the 121 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: tests and found the same pattern of a limited set 122 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: of questions. Of course, in addition to the extra questions 123 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: he had promised all the questions on this test would 124 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: be new. So while we again got to the point 125 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: we had the questions and answers memorized, we tried to 126 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: make sure we understood the concepts as much as possible 127 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: to deal with what we expected to be his wrath. 128 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: So basically they were just studying really well, yeah. 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were actually understanding. 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, just understand that test day comes round and lo 131 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: and behold, eighty seven of the questions are pulled directly 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: from old tests, ten are from a guest lecture where 133 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: he basically pulled the question and answered directly from the slides, 134 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: and three were filler questions like what's one plus one equal? 135 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: And the Earth revolves around the sun for a false? 136 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: This guy's so lazy. 137 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: I know he can't he even he says, face my 138 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: wrath and his wrath are what's one plus one two? 139 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: I knew I had everything right. I also knew I 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: didn't want to screw myself and everyone else for the 141 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: final I purposely answered the filler questions incorrectly, so if 142 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: he looked at the results he would know what I 143 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: had done. I got my ninety seven, and I never 144 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: heard from the professor about that third test. But I 145 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: like to think of him rage scrolling through the results, 146 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: like we get those kids. 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: What day. 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember the details about the final but I 149 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: do remember the form that being the same exact thing 150 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: as what had been announced at the beginning of the semester. 151 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: My study group also worked together in the group project 152 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: where we made a's and so on. So if you 153 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: really only gave out five a's that semester, we received. 154 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: All of them. Wow, we'll be right back after the break. 155 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: So Sam and I recently converted this podcast to anchor, 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: and it was so easy. I mean, Sam, I wish 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: all conversions were this easy, even spiritual ones. 158 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: So John, I actually called up the Church of Scientology 159 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: and asked. 160 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: How can I convert you? 161 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: Scientology Information Center? 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: How can I help you? Hello? 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Now back to the podcast. 190 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: Man, Oh, great, great job. 191 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm a college dropout, so I appreciate cheating and stuff 192 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: like that. 193 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: Oh he just studied, well, like that's you know, he's 194 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: just he just he just used the resources at his 195 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: disposal and uh and got around the system. 196 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: Was it was kind of a combination deep study and cheating. 197 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: I feel like you know what I mean, Like. 198 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Well, wasn't cheating because the professor said he could, they 199 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: could study from old tests. 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: He could. 201 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: They just that is true, but they memorized lots of 202 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: questions that right, Well you're so you're. 203 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: Like, study from this test, but don't memorize any answers. 204 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, I'll be really got everything down. He 205 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: memorized everything, but you know what you should memorize. 206 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: Ooh, the subscribe button for OKOP. 207 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Subscribe on YouTube, follow us on Spotify and TikTok, and 208 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: if you really want to be a support, support us 209 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: on Patreon. 210 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: Join Amanda Wilcombs, Conor Van Buren, Keegan Simmons, and Kathy Quigley. 211 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: See soon