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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thanks for tuning in. This is Eli Sussman,

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Speaker 1: managing editor of Fish Stripes. We're gonna call this episode

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Speaker 1: fifteen of Earning Their Stripes, the first one in a

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Speaker 1: little while, and it is an abbreviated one. I had

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Speaker 1: the pleasure of speaking with right hander Cody Poteit of

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Baby Cakes triple at New Orleans earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, and we're gonna play that interview coming up

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Speaker 1: in just a few minutes, an exclusive interview for a

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Speaker 1: guy that's pretty close to breaking through to the major leagues,

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Speaker 1: a former tenth round pick in the twenty fifteen draft.

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Speaker 1: But first we need to take stock of what's going

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Speaker 1: on with his Marlins farm system, one that in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: has just finally burst through to that elite level. On

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Speaker 1: trade deadline Day this past Wednesday, July thirty, first picking

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Speaker 1: up two more really premium prospects, shortstop Jazz Chisholm from

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamondbacks in a one for one trade involving

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Speaker 1: Zach Gallon going the other way, a real shocker, and secondly,

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Speaker 1: a four player deal with the Tampa Bay Rays, sending

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Speaker 1: Nick Anderson and Trevor Richards up North, receiving right hander

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Speaker 1: Ryan Stanek and Jesus Sanchez in return. Sanchez a consensus

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Speaker 1: top one hundred prospect. If you thought the Marlins already

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Speaker 1: had enough intriguing, controllable outfielders at the upper levels of

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Speaker 1: the miners, then they just added one more, although one

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Speaker 1: that's probably going to be a corner outfielder at the

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Speaker 1: highest level, but someone that's already reported to Triple A

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Be a teammate with Potit, and he'll be

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Speaker 1: getting a lot of playing time. He'll be really exciting

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Speaker 1: to see. Getting back to Chisholm made his Marlins debut

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Speaker 1: on Thursday and started it off with a bang.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Brown faced the minimum in the sixth thanks to

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Speaker 2: His pitch and it's Chisholm swings away, Hammers this ball.

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Speaker 2: It's deep out in a right center field Dylan Thomas

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Speaker 2: to the wall and it's gone. What a night for

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Speaker 2: Jazz Chisholm. He's now three for four with a homer,

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Speaker 2: triple as single and he's given the Jumbo Shrimp before

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Speaker 2: nothing lead on his nineteenth combined home run of the season.

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Speaker 1: Jazz is from the Bahamas, originally only twenty one years old,

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Speaker 1: one of the younger players who have spent this entire

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Speaker 1: that he's going to stick at shortstop defensively long term.

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Speaker 1: The big question mark thing he is swinging misissues at

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Speaker 1: the plate. When he connects with the ball, it goes

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Speaker 1: a long way, as we saw and heard on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: But that strikeout rate has been really unreasonably high for

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Speaker 1: most of this year, and that's a familiar issue with

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Speaker 1: a lot of the prospects that the Marlins have gone

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Speaker 1: after in recent years. The high upside is definitely there,

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Speaker 1: and it's a very bold trade to move Gallon, someone

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Speaker 1: that had found pretty immediate six at the major league level.

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Speaker 1: But it's addressing an area of weakness that the Marlins had.

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Speaker 1: One of the few weaknesses left in their farm system

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Speaker 1: was a short supposition at least in the near future.

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Speaker 1: You know they're stocked pretty well a few years down

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Speaker 1: the road, whether it's Jose devers Osius Johnson, Nasim Nunez,

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Speaker 1: or in total, when you account for these acquisitions, this

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Speaker 1: is a farm system that is elite. That's the word

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Speaker 1: that sports fans love to use. I try to stay

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Speaker 1: away from it because it can mean whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to mean. But anyway you slice it, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the better collections of young minor league talent that

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Speaker 1: the Marlins are in this position since twenty thirteen, really,

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Speaker 1: when they had Yelich and Ozuna and Jose Fernandez. With

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Speaker 1: all that talent comes some tricky decisions. You can't just

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Speaker 1: Eventually there's gonna be the Rule five draft, which threatens

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Speaker 1: to spread talent around to franchises with less ability in

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Speaker 1: the farm system. The Marlins we're on the other side

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Speaker 1: of that the last couple of years, taking advantage of teams.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be one of those teams facing those difficult decisions,

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Speaker 1: guys that they'll need to squeeze onto the forty man

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Speaker 1: Six Dos Sanchez is going to be Rule five eligible

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Speaker 1: this coming off season. Nick Kniger, the reigning Minor League

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Speaker 1: pitcher of the Year for the Marlins, even though he's

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Speaker 1: One of those guys that's going to be in that

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Speaker 1: on his birthday. He's someone that has been in this

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Speaker 1: Pote was coming off a very disappointing twenty eighteen season.

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Speaker 1: It's why even though he was a starter of the

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Speaker 1: Rule five draft, no other team took a flyer on him.

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Speaker 1: And the Marlins are really fortunate for that because came

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Playing in the Pacific Coast League, where you

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Speaker 1: just know you're gonna get up your fair share of

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Speaker 1: if you combine Jacksonville and New Orleans, he's pitched one

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Speaker 1: great years of performance and with beautiful peripherals and nasty stuff.

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Speaker 1: Potit isn't quite on that nasty stuff level, but the

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Speaker 1: performance is there and the consistency has been there. Again,

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Speaker 1: he's thrown more endings than any of these other guys

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Speaker 1: roster yet, but that's going to be a very interesting decision.

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Speaker 1: So without further ado. Here's my conversation with right hander

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Speaker 1: Cody Poteit back here on earning their stripes. It's Eli

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Speaker 1: Sussman doing a special interview on this episode with one

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Speaker 1: of the best, most successful starting pitchers in the Marlins

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Speaker 1: minor league system this entire season and one of the

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Speaker 1: longest tenured guys in this system, drafted over four years ago.

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Speaker 1: He is right hand Cody Poteit, and he's joining us

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Speaker 1: all the way from the West Coast. He's joining us

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Speaker 1: on his twenty fifth birthday. Thank you very much, Cody

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Speaker 1: for coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for having me. I'm excited and pleasure

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start really big picture because I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're aware that over the last few years

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Speaker 1: a while. But you were a one guy that's now

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Speaker 1: been in the system for more than four years. You

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Speaker 1: came into the minor leagues out of the Powerhouse UCLA

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Speaker 1: as a pretty refined pitcher, as you were. But after

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Speaker 1: all this time, after going through almost every single level

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Speaker 1: of the Marlins minor league system. How do you think

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Speaker 1: as a pitcher you've changed if you have changed from

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Speaker 3: I've definitely changed a lot. I mean every year you're

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Speaker 3: learning stuff and putting stuff together. I would say just overall,

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Speaker 3: my command over the years has gotten better, and just

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Speaker 3: being able to situationally manage a game has definitely gotten better.

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Speaker 3: When I was coming out of college, attends most time

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Speaker 3: stepping into pro ball, that was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: learning how to manage my pitches as they continue to develop,

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Speaker 3: when do you use them in certain counts against certain hitters?

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Speaker 3: And as you go up the levels, hitters get better.

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Speaker 3: So I like to watch the hitters and learn, Like

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like a puzzle, putting it all together.

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Speaker 3: How the good hitters hit, How do you get certain

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Speaker 3: a certain way against certain guys. So just stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: mostly managing the game has gotten better, and then just

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Speaker 1: Right now, for people that don't fall along with you

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Speaker 1: every single start like we do, you just break down

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Speaker 1: what pitches you have at your just and maybe which

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I have a four seam fastball, a two

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Speaker 3: just because it's the most crucial for me as managing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing that jumps out just looking at

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Speaker 1: last year. You worked up a lot of endings. But

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen. Yeah, is there any particular

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I had a rough stretch two years ago,

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Speaker 3: He helped me a great deal. So just being able

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. We're here with Cody poteit on earning their stripes.

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Speaker 1: One thing I mentioned up top is how many new

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Speaker 1: I wanted to take a slightly different turn here. Before

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Cody, and good luck to you

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