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Speaker 1: Welcome in Glay, Travis buck Sexton show lots of spice,

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Speaker 1: my goodness. In the Oval Office, we have got true

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Speaker 1: fireworks going on right now between Zolensky, Trump and JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans.

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Speaker 1: We played some of the cuts for you as we

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Speaker 2: We have added in more. This has just happened.

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Speaker 1: So I want you guys to to be able to understand.

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Speaker 1: Here is now cut twenty nine more of again. This

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Speaker 1: is in the Oval Office, JD. Vance, Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: Zolensky talking about whether this mineral rights deal is actually

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Speaker 1: going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Listen, it's gonna be a very hard thing to do

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Speaker 3: business like this.

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Speaker 4: I tell you say thank you.

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Speaker 2: I said, except for America, except that there.

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Speaker 5: Are disagreements, and let's go litigate those agreements rather than

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Speaker 5: trying to fight it out of the American media when

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Speaker 5: you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: We know, but you see, I think it's good for

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Speaker 3: the American people to see what's going on. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think it's very important. That's why I kept this going

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Speaker 3: so long. You have to be thankful. You don't have

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Speaker 3: the car. You're buried there, your people are dying, you're

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Speaker 3: running low on soldiers. Listen, you're running low on soldiers.

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Speaker 3: It would be a damn good thing. And then you

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Speaker 3: then you tell us I don't want to cease fire.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to cease fire. I want to go

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Speaker 3: and I wanted this. Look, if you could get a

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Speaker 3: ceasefire right now, I tell you take it. So the

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Speaker 3: bullets stopped flying, and your mint stuff.

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Speaker 5: Course and kills just told the war.

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Speaker 3: But you're saying you don't want to say to you,

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Speaker 3: I want to see guarantee because you'll get a ceasefire

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Speaker 3: faster than any degree.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's dive in, buck out, getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: new baby. For the remainder of today's show, you had

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Speaker 1: to duck out a lot of family. We'll take some

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Speaker 1: of your calls.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.

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Speaker 1: Here is how I would analyze what we just saw

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Speaker 1: there to see, not only in the United States and

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Speaker 1: all of US, but everyone around the world. What is

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Speaker 1: I think the single most important detail of the situation

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Speaker 1: with Russia and Ukraine right now, and it is this,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine cannot win. Once you know that you cannot win,

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Speaker 1: the only question is how does this end, many of

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Speaker 1: you out there have been sold a bill of goods

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Speaker 1: that Ukraine was going to win this war, that it

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Speaker 1: was going to lead to Vladimir Putin getting removed from power,

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Speaker 1: that Russia was going to crumble. None of that is true. Okay,

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Speaker 1: disabuse yourselves of that notion. Ukraine is going to lose.

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Speaker 1: Russia has more men, they have more materials, they.

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Speaker 2: Have the ability and the willingness.

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Speaker 1: It appears to deal with casualties for a far longer

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Speaker 1: number one takeaway here, which is Ukraine can't win. Where

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Speaker 1: Trump has moved is he's moved to Okay, let's end

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Speaker 1: the war. Let's have a cease fire, Let's just have

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Speaker 1: a negotiated peace. At this point in time, all we're

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Speaker 1: That's the secondary question to me. The answer to the

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Speaker 1: invade again. Really, the second part of those questions is

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Speaker 1: the most important one to analyze here. My suggestion, based

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Speaker 1: be the plan that Europe would commit many different soldiers,

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Speaker 1: many different countries would be sending peacekeepers to Ukraine. The

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Speaker 1: for him in his political career. He's not behaving differently

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Speaker 1: in public versus private. He's basically saying to Zolensky in

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Speaker 2: You can't get a negotiated piece.

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Speaker 1: By and large when you are telling one side your

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is all good, Russia is all evil. It's really

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Speaker 1: hard to come to a negotiated settlement with good and evil.

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Speaker 1: So what Trump has tried to do is he has

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Speaker 1: how negotiations generally work. Some of you out there listening

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Speaker 1: Some of you have probably been involved in mediation. The

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Speaker 1: then the mediator, who is a default judge physically, usually

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Speaker 1: Any good mediator understands that in order to solve a conflict,

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Speaker 1: I think Trump made the calculated decision along with JD. Vans,

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Speaker 1: So if you know Ukraine can't win, and you know

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Speaker 1: effectively you have created a stalemate, a modern day Majino

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Speaker 1: me just say this, Maybe read a few more history books.

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Speaker 1: If every single historical analogy you draw involves Hitler in

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Speaker 1: well then he's going to take Poland, or then he's

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Speaker 2: No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the ability to do that. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: And he wants to create an even bigger, better American

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Speaker 5: So the claim made by Democrats both now and in

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Speaker 5: the past that Congress has to act to fix the

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Speaker 5: problem is complete. The Loney the Immigration Laws of the

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Speaker 5: United States, a volume of which I have in my

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Speaker 5: office with me. You know, imagine a book about four

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Speaker 5: inches thick, a very small font. We have incredibly detailed

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Speaker 5: immigration laws and immigration regulations under that that already make

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Speaker 5: it legal just about everything the illegal aliens are doing.

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Speaker 5: So we don't need additional immigration laws. We just need

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Speaker 5: an executive who will enforce existing immigration laws. That's what

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Speaker 5: President Trump is doing. That is what Biden did not do.

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Speaker 5: In fact, Biden not only did not enforce the laws

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Speaker 5: violate he ordered ice officers and board patrol officers to

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Speaker 5: violate certain laws that require the officer to make an

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Speaker 5: arrest under certain circumstances. He said, no, you were not

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Speaker 5: allowed to make that arrest, even though federal statute says

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Speaker 5: you shall make an arrest under those circumstances. So the

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Speaker 5: laws were already there. All it took was an executive

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Speaker 5: willing to enforce the law. And the lawlessness of the

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Speaker 5: Bide administration just stands in start contrast now when you

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Speaker 5: see a president who's just enforcing the laws that have

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Speaker 5: been on the books, many of them for over fifty years.

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Speaker 5: The most recent ones are already almost thirty years old.

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Speaker 5: So there was never a shortage of laws in this area.

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Speaker 1: By the way, reports Zolenski scene exiting the White House,

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Speaker 1: trying to keep everybody updated on exactly what has gone

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Speaker 1: on there. And we will continue to update you on

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Speaker 1: all of this. What would you say as an attorney general?

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Speaker 1: People should know out there about the primary difference seen

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Speaker 1: in the first I guess, like forty five days, sixty

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Speaker 1: days as we come up on it of Trump two

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Speaker 1: point zero compared to Biden.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, competency is the number one difference. I mean, Biden,

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Speaker 5: as you know throughout his tenure his four years, got

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Speaker 5: more and more you know, mentally disconnected. And that's just

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Speaker 5: a function of age. Nothing you know, negative about him

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Speaker 5: as a person, but he just he just wasn't there,

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Speaker 5: whereas President Trump is hyper engaged. The other thing is

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Speaker 5: President Trump's two point Oh, you know, Trump forty seven

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Speaker 5: has a lot more wisdom and experience than Trump forty five.

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Speaker 5: Not to say that, you know, Trump forty five wasn't

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Speaker 5: very experienced in all kinds of areas that are relevant

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Speaker 5: to being president. But now he's been through the grinder.

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Speaker 5: He knows what's going to have, what the deep State's

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Speaker 5: going to try to do to I mean, he knows

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Speaker 5: what Congress is going to how they're going to react,

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Speaker 5: and so coming in this second term, he's been extremely effective.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the the pace at which he was issued

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Speaker 5: executive orders, and the quality of the orders are very detailed,

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Speaker 5: and I'm you know, as an attorney I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 5: Just yesterday I was reviewing some of the executive orders

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Speaker 5: and we had a meeting at the White House with

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Speaker 5: twenty one Republican attorneys general, meeting with Pam BONDI to

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Speaker 5: go over very specific things that we're intending to do.

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Speaker 5: This is this is an extraordinary level of activity where

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Speaker 5: the Trump administration is moving on multiple fronts simultaneously with

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Speaker 5: great speed. I haven't seen any administration do this in

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Speaker 5: the first hundred days, and I've seen administrations up you know,

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Speaker 5: was involved on the outside of the Trump administration the

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Speaker 5: first time. They did a great job. But Trump forty

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Speaker 5: seven is running a whole lot faster than Trump forty five,

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Speaker 5: and a whole lot faster than the Bush administration which

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Speaker 5: I was involved in. It's really impressive, really really impressive.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate the work you're doing in Kansas. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you giving us some time and some optics and do

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Speaker 1: how life as an attorney general under Trump is going.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to talking to you again sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the good work in Canvansas.

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Speaker 5: My pleasure. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is Attorney General of Kansas, Chris go Back, will

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Speaker 1: take some of your calls and we come back reacting

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Speaker 1: still to the fireworks.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to call it.

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Speaker 1: Inside of the Oval Office between Zelenski, Donald Trump and JD. Vance,

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you the lunatic anti Israeli protesters

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Speaker 1: are back again in New York City, this time around

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Speaker 1: one hundred of them gathering in front of the entrance

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Speaker 1: to Barnard College, chanting Free Palestine. They tried to breach

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Speaker 1: police barricades. Several arrests were made, and they also got

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Speaker 1: in officer faces of the NYPD and called them the KKK.

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Speaker 1: All of this just another reminder of why we need

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Speaker 1: to continue to support our friends in Israel, something the

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Speaker 1: International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is dedicated to doing.

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Speaker 1: Your ongoing monthly gift of forty five dollars will provide

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Speaker 1: critically needed aid to communities in the north and South

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Speaker 1: parts of Israel devastated by the ongoing war. I saw

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Speaker 1: it from my own eyes up near Lebanon, and also

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Speaker 1: all the way down in the kibbutz is overlooking Gaza.

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Speaker 1: Much destruction there, much rebuilding, needed to be done, and

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Speaker 1: As I just told you, Zelensky effectively kicked out of

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Speaker 1: the White House.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to take some of your calls.

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Speaker 1: In the third hour, I will reset and we will

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Speaker 1: play the audio for those of you that have not

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Speaker 1: heard it. An expectation was that there would be a

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Speaker 1: mineral rights deal signed today that would help to hasten

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Speaker 1: the end of the Ukraine Russia conflict. It feels to

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Speaker 1: me in many ways like Trump has just skipped ahead

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Speaker 1: several different steps in the direction of getting.

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Speaker 2: This war ended.

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Speaker 1: And in order to end the war, you first have

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Speaker 1: to recognize that there is no way for Ukraine to

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Speaker 1: win the war once that is recognized, and that was

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Speaker 1: a big part, I believe, of what Trump was saying

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Speaker 1: publicly in the Oval office. And again I'll play this

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Speaker 1: audio for those of you have not heard it, instead

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Speaker 1: of playing nice and space end the next several months

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Speaker 1: going back and forth. I think what Trump did today

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Speaker 1: is going to make it more likely that Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 1: will agree to some form of peace.

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Speaker 2: Deeal, what does that peace steal look like?

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Speaker 1: As I laid out a little bit earlier, you're essentially

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Speaker 1: now negotiating where the squiggly line is going to be,

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Speaker 1: where is the Russian territory going to end, and where

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Speaker 1: is the Ukraine territory going to begin. And then as

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Speaker 1: a secondary part of this negotiation, you are trying to

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Speaker 1: ensure that this never happens again, in other words, that

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Speaker 1: Russia doesn't invade again in a few years when Trump

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Speaker 1: is not in office and try to take more of

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainian territory, which certainly should be the goal. To

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Speaker 1: keep that from ever happening again. So what can occur

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Speaker 1: to end the war now and to hopefully ensure that

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Speaker 1: this is not a short tenured ending that leads to

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Speaker 1: another element of attack. Remember it was under Obama initially

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Speaker 1: that Russia took Crimea and began the process of taking

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Speaker 1: land that it believed was its historic country boundaries inside

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Speaker 1: of its historic country boundaries and that it was entitled to.

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Speaker 1: And so that will be the question going forward. And

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of people who have

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Speaker 1: never negotiated any deal at all. I'm just telling you this.

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Speaker 1: These people have never negotiated a deal in their entire lives,

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Speaker 1: and they react in histrionic fashion to every twist. And

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Speaker 1: I'll just take it outside of Russia Ukraine, look at

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Speaker 1: how the battles over tariffs have been shown to go.

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Speaker 1: They get resolved by and large, the media loses its mind,

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Speaker 1: and then they get resolved. What I would say here

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Speaker 1: is important is I think Trump has created space for

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Speaker 1: Russia to now I'll be able to settle this war

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Speaker 1: because they are now not seen completely as evil. And

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Speaker 1: I'll just come back to it. I'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: again at the top of the third hour. It's very

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Speaker 1: hard to negotiate a deal when you say one side

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Speaker 1: is completely in the right, the other side is completely

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Speaker 1: in the wrong. And I'm not saying that that can't

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Speaker 1: sometimes be the case. Some of you out there may

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Speaker 1: have been involved in divorces. Sometimes it's equal fault, right, Hey,

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Speaker 1: fifty percent my fault, fifty percent your fault.

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Speaker 2: You look at it.

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Speaker 1: Other times there is one partner that is truly awful,

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Speaker 1: and when it's someone that impartial fact finder looks at it,

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Speaker 1: they're like, boy, this is really bad. But generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: we have no fault divorce because if you publicly say, hey,

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Speaker 1: your husband was the devil, it's really hard to get

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Speaker 1: it an agreement. So generally speaking, what happens is an

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Speaker 1: agreement is reached and we don't spend all this time

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly what the percentage is fault

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Speaker 1: versus non fault. I wish Russia had never invaded Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: I wish there was no war, but there are wars,

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Speaker 1: and they eventually have to get settled. And what Trump

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Speaker 1: is doing is saying, hey, Ukraine, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: fund this war forever. You don't have a good cards

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Speaker 1: that you are holding, it's time for you to recognize

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Speaker 1: that a resolution needs to happen and the war needs

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Speaker 1: to end. America is the peacemaker here. We're not trying

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Speaker 1: to propagate this war any longer with American taxpayer dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's time to end it.

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Speaker 1: That's actually a strong and I think very important statement

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Speaker 1: for the President of the United States to have just made.

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Speaker 2: That's what Trump did. We'll break it down for you

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Speaker 2: next