WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Reviewing the Week 2 Win 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.640 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:17.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.880 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:32.080 Star in Frisco, SAT. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Browns, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.440 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into the 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:44.919 SWBC Morgan Studio for Talking Cowboys. Challenge accepted. Mickey challenged, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.479 Matt met answered. Cowboys answered twenty to thirteen over the 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.400 New York Giants in their home opener at at and 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.880 T Stadium on Sunday Night Football. Brian brought us joining 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.760 us as well. Rob Phillips, I am hosting for Bill 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.520 Jones today, Big Today, breaking it all down. I know 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.360 it was a late nine for everybody, but we got 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.880 a little bit better football, a lot better football than 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.479 we saw in Week one against Carolina. And let's talk 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.000 about two. Two ninety seven is the number. If y'all 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:18.360 would like to join us. Kent Garrison is producing as always, gentlemen. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.039 They bounced back a little bit last night, didn't they, Yes, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.040 they did. It was better and as I continue to 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:33.080 tell folks that still aren't satisfied, this team will improve 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.480 as the season goes along. It's not a finished product. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.000 What you've seen in two games is not what you're 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.800 going to see for the next fourteen games. And I 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.440 thought the offense seemed a little bit more coordinated. The 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.240 offensive line did a heck of a better job. Instead 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.200 of giving up the six sacks they did to Carolina, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.720 they gave up zero. Instead of the ten hits on 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.560 the quarterback, they gave up only three. And I thought 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.840 dak at a much better job of when things were 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.600 breaking down, just get rid of the football, throw it away. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.720 And I bet half as in completions were throwaways because 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.400 he couldn't find anybody open. So I thought it was 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.079 a step in the right direction. They got rewarded. The 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.560 Giants were what we thought they were. They can't protect 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.880 their quarterback, they can't run the football, even with se 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:29.040 Quon Barkley, and they took advantage of that and beat 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.040 the living daylights out of Eli Manning. Brian, you were 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.120 in here early, Yeah, breaking down the tape again. Yeah, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.120 what are your thoughts? Running it back a little bit. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.880 I think Mickey is absolutely right in what we saw 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.679 last night. I did like how they were able to 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.160 whether they scripted plays or however they got to their 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.959 first couple of sequences of their play calling. I like 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.280 the fact that they weren't running the ball on first 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.440 down to start. You know, usually you'll see him getting 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.360 a twelve personnel and then run the football and it's 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.240 a gain of one. You know. They spread the Giants out, 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:07.680 They made the Giants defend the perimeter. The receivers, I thought, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.959 did a nice job of getting open. The challenge was 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.480 on the receivers to have to make some plays down 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.720 the field. They set up the past to Tavon Austin 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.200 with some max protection. They gave Dak the opportunity to 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.919 make some good throws. But overall, I say, you have 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.519 to think about some really positive things. The protection, the 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.720 way that Da Dak had to make a couple throws 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.400 in the pocket. He was able to do that. But 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.400 they played what we were talking about more to his strengths, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.800 the read option stuff. And you know him, if he's 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.120 gonna throw for one hundred and sixty yards, if he 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.080 can give you another fifty or so on the ground 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.200 every game, that will that will supplement what you're trying 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.560 to do. But Mickey's right, they're not a finished product. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.360 I think that you're gonna have to find more offense. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.040 You're gonna have to find ways to sustain more offense. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:58.960 The drive they had at the end of the game, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.960 though for the touch down, was well done, well executed, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.080 but they had too many stretches there where they had 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.920 to make a throw a throwaway or they weren't able 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.080 to appenally set them back. I mean, they had some 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.440 good things set. They had back to back holding calls 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.279 that were on plays where they were able to execute 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.560 to get a first down. You know, you look at 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.719 you know, they run the ball on the outside. Usually 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.160 you'll say, well, let's not run the ball to the 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.640 edge when it's third and one, you know, because then 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.680 you get something like that potentially happened. And then Jeff 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.560 Swaying he got called for holding on that play and 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.680 they complete a pass down the field to Thompson. So 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.440 once again, this offense, when they have problems, it's usually 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.680 self inflicted problems. But they're gonna need to create more offense. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.280 But I think they got a good start with the 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.760 protection and I felt like the receivers did their part, 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.800 and then the quarterback played his part, and the offensive 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.840 coordinator was able to get some things going that we 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.440 hadn't seen in the in the at least for the 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.599 first two weeks of the season. I charted the plays 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.000 early offensively, and I mean, like you said, they come 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.400 out with a pass on first down, right, not a run. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.440 They were listening to talking Cobb. They go and told 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.080 him what to do. They go deep to Tavon. It's 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.880 probably a bad idea, but I like what you're saying, Mickey, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.400 for sixty four yards in the touchdown. They use Tavon 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.560 on an end a round right early in the game. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.000 They start the read option and as you said, Dak 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.520 Prescott forty five yards on the ground. I think that's 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.000 a career high for him. It was it's like Christmas 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.640 for all the guys yelling at us in the mail bag. Look, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.400 they got to be more creative. They gotta do some 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.240 more things to try to open things up, you know. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.640 But it's but it's also goes back to if you 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.880 listen to what Ezekiel Elliott was saying in pregame and 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.160 when we were doing our pregame show, which I appreciate 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:41.840 your rob being a part of that. They did a 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.039 great job. The Ezekiel it says, we've got to stay 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.120 ahead of the chains. That was something that even Jason 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.640 Garrett said after the game. Dak Prescott, hey a lot 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.839 on me. We gotta stay ahead of the chains. It's 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.240 going to be easier for Scott Linahan to call a 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.800 game if he can stay in manageable down in distance situation. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.280 We saw what happened when they get out of whack 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.719 when it is a second and nine or second. They 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.200 converted a few more of those, you know, but still 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.479 overall only thirty percent on third down and and that's 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.640 nearly not good enough to what they need to do. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.720 But if you can get Zeke to run in near 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.600 eighty yards, we talked about Dak getting near fifty yards, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.880 You'll take that every single time. Mixon to Tavon Austin 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.480 fifteen yard reverse. That's a great play by Ezekiel. And 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.960 on the play, here's the blitzer coming at him. He's 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.080 going to fire the ball to the outside. He doesn't 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.720 get distracted. Tabon Austin gave him enough room to get him. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.520 Sometimes you get the mesh points are a little crazy there, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.560 but Tavon Austin saw what was going on. You know that. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.440 That just shows you This is why they went out 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.920 and got Tavon Austin. Though you know when you can 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.560 get a guy. And I'll tell you what the most 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.880 impressive play to me, it was not the reverse or 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.799 tabon Austin, not the bomb. But you watch the double 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.400 move that he was able to make against Genors Jenkins 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.440 to come back for fifteen yards. He's going to shake Jenkins. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.520 That shows you that he and guys Cole Beasley are capable. 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.600 Look at the play that Cole Beasley made on third 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.200 down to come back to the football there. That could 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.520 have very well been an interception, but he's able to 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.880 come back. So if you've got shorter guys in the 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.720 outside that are making plays down the field, that will 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.800 open up some things. I think Thompson did a great 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.320 job there. It's unfortunate that Rico Gathers didn't get rewarded 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.320 for getting open on his pass. But people say, oh, well, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.280 Prescott was getting blitzed there. Ogletree was close. Bad arm angle, 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.760 but he's got to anticipate that throw a little bit 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.760 more of a little bit more of a direct pass 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.200 to the corner and you've got a shot right there 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.440 for Rico Gathers to make a play. Rico Gathers had 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.440 another opportunity as well, where he went as high as 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.520 he can go. I don't think Rico Gathers can get 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.680 any further off the ground or extend any higher to 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.560 make a play. Prescott got flushed to his right tried 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.400 to make a throw to there, so they got Rico involved. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.400 It was one of those things where they really spread 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.440 everything out around offensively, and that's what this team is 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.400 going to have to do. It's gonna have to manufacture offense. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.000 It's not gonna be pretty all that time, but they're 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.200 gonna have to find a way. I was ready for 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.880 the slant what we call the slugo. You guys laugh 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.280 at me because I always talked to Dez about the slugo. Yes, 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.600 the slant and go, we're gonna start to see that. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.440 Get ready for when the game plans, if people are 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.120 gonna overplay to play the slant, get ready for the slugo. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.880 That's gonna be something that they're gonna be able to 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.040 hit down the field. But they're gonna have to come 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.960 up with more things offensively. Though. They did enough to 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.240 win this game with the offense they had, but I 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.840 think they're gonna have to come up they're gonna play 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.720 some defenses that they're gonna have to come up with 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.200 some more things for you know. One of the things 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.800 though that I think that was also good about this 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.240 is they put some stuff on tape. Now people have 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.320 to keep an eye on, yeah, and that helps they 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.160 they're not gonna be able to uh, you know, landing 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.439 Collins on the deep Pass to Tavan. He bit on 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.200 the run. He came out. They were committed. They were committed. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.800 and it's like, okay, big boy, you didn't help your 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.599 cornerback who who bit on the run. And it was 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.960 a kind of a it was kind of a crafty 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.839 deep route by Tavon Austin and kind of took me 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.160 back to Trenny camp when he said, you know, you 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.800 got to learn to how to run the nine route. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.120 Just don't go out there or to burst the speed 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.040 and think you're gonna out run the guy because he 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.679 kind of slow footed it there, almost like he's stutter stepped, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.839 and oh, here came Jenkins and then he exploded and 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.520 he's got enough speed that if he's even with you, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.480 if he's even with you, he's buy it done. And 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.960 the safety can't get over the top end time, they 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.719 flipped a play and did the same thing to the 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.599 other side to Michael Gallop. They kept protection in with 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.280 swaying and then tried to throw it to the other side. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.400 And I think if Dak throws it a little bit 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.040 more to the inside, the safety didn't get over the top. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:47.080 But they were committed. Really the challenge when you guys 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.199 opened the show, the challenge accepted. The challenge for I 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.319 think for Collins wasn't so much at Dak. It was 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.439 can you guys these corners the challenges. We've got to 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.880 cover these guys. And I don't think the Giant corners 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.280 Eli Apple got hurt, but I don't think the Giant 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.439 corners did a well enough job. I'm surprised they didn't 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:11.400 wear wear a BW web out in this football That's 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.719 what I'm saying. I'm surprised. This wasn't a very you know, 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.320 Thompson I think had six, seven, maybe eight targets. I'm 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.319 not surprised. I'm surprised that we didn't see Beasley have 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.599 eight targets in this game that way. So yeah, but 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.120 they flipped, they flipped, they try to hit it on 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.200 a deep route again to Gallop and gallop and actually 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.400 had some separation if the ball was a little bit 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.080 more inside. We saw that play what happened in San 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.079 Francisco in the preseason, remember where he was able to 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.840 separate and Prescott fit the ball into him right there 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.760 and then it was a touchdown. I was thinking that 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.240 was going to kind of be the same thing, but 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.920 the ball kind of went to the outside, and you know, hey, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.280 at least they're taking shots down the field. That's what 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.800 they've got to do. Yeah, they've got to They've got 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.719 to find ways if they can hit big plays with 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.400 guys that could separate, if Austin could separate, if a 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.120 Gallop can separate, those are the things you need to do. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.360 And on the one on Gallop too, I went back 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.880 and looked at it. It looked like he didn't keep 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.800 his how do they say it, the red line, Like 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.000 he didn't give him enough space between where he was 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.280 in the side. Always looks like he's getting interfered. He 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.560 and it comes off the route. He's getting knocked around. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.280 But then but if you get him, if you get 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.439 him tracking the ball, he can get that little two 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.319 or three because you know, Eli Apple look back and 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.880 then all of a sudden, that's where Michael Gallop keeps going. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.959 But Mickey's right, the positioning the ball took him wider 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.600 than he needed to be. If he gets a little 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.160 bit more inside, and that's that's that's another another another 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.360 big play there right there. We actually got to cut Kent, 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.679 I believe from Dak talking about how they felt like 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.160 they had to be the aggressors in this game offensively, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.040 and that's what happened at least early on for sure. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:50.880 I mean, we just wanted to be their aggressors. We 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.559 wanted to set the tone, how in the run game, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.960 in the passing game, and make them make them try 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.480 to defend what we were doing. And it's not us 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.400 going to the game trying to call our fence off 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.800 of what they're doing on defense, rather than us to 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.839 be the aggressives. And we did it. And really that's 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.720 what they did second half at Carolina was they spread 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.640 them out and say we're gonna dictate what we do. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.439 We're gonna spread you out and and try to loosen 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.160 things up a little bit. And you know, Tavon said 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.800 that was a play the first play touchdown, something they 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.120 worked on in practice absolutely, yes, all week And I 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.600 asked him just about being used in different ways because 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.319 he only got ten snaps I think at Carolina, and 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.720 he said it was like my West Virginia days where 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.839 I'm just they put me all over the field. And 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.079 like you said, that's what you brought him in to do. Yes, 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.520 return punts right, be a mismatch player in space. And 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.360 I don't know his final play count, but obviously he 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.079 was more involved in this game. And it's just like 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.240 Mickey said, it's another thing for defenses to think I 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.040 didn't hear from my Scout friends to last night that 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.559 you know, my Scout friends would always say, up Tavon Austin, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.120 Davon Austin. Yeah, you guys think you could do this 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.280 with Tavon Austin that told you they got to see it. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.640 They gotta see it. And that's I think that, and 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.800 I think we all saw with Tavon Austin is capable 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.040 of capably and if you could use him that way. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.240 If Dak's talking about being aggressive, you know, the read option, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.839 the RPOs, the reverses, anything to get the ball to 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.720 those types of players in space. You know, if you've 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.560 got some guys that are willing to do dirty work, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.520 like Thompson's willing to do dirty work. Alan Hearns looks 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.280 like a dirty work player. Okay, if you've got dirty 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.200 work players that are going to make those tough inside 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.920 catches for probably minimal gains, but maybe get your first downs. Now, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.640 take advantage of Beasley, Now take advantage of Austin. Now 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.480 take advantage of Michael Gallup. Now take advantage of the 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.040 quarterback running the football. That's what they're going to have 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.240 to do. That's what this offense is going to have 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.319 to be. There's gonna be a lot of different guys involved. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.920 It's not going to be hanging your hat on one 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.880 player or saying, hey, it's just the running game here. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.040 But they want to run the football. But they found 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:53.400 ways last night to have different ways of doing whether 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.480 it was the true traditional running back or the quarterback 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.360 carrying the football. And I thought they did a better 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.719 job of getting those offensive linemen on the move too. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.040 There was a couple of times where you saw Connor 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:10.199 Williams polly by the way and on the move. He 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.240 is pretty darn good. He's an athlete, yeah, and so 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.559 you know, yeah, is he gonna get overpowered at times. Absolutely, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.880 it's going to happen. But I think you can take 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.640 advantage of things he can do. You can take advantage 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.680 maybe a little bit of what Joe Looney can do. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.040 We know what Zach Martin can do. I just thought 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:33.000 the offensive the offensive line played a lot more in rhythm, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.280 like they were coordinated, like they knew what they were doing. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.080 And I think it showed, and it showed in the 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.920 running game, and it certainly showed on that eighty two 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.400 yard drive at the end when they I mean, that 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.120 reminds you of twenty sixteen. Yeah, they didn't just blow 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.040 everybody out, but at the end of games they had 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:57.480 the ability to down finished, score a touchdown instead of 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.160 a field goal and leave the game still in in jeopardy. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.040 Uh and and and just mix the plays awfully well. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:10.360 So again, I'm just and I know people are gonna complain, Oh, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.920 they only scored twenty points, you know, Okay, fine, but 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.600 it was more than they did the week before. Now, 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.760 let's see if they take the next step, going to say, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.640 recover an onside kick, they give up what yeah, I 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.640 mean three yeah, exactly. Mean, that's where that's where the 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:35.080 almost the majority of their the Giants total yards were 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.760 in the fourth quarter, they had one hundred yards and 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.360 they had to get an extra possession to be able 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.960 to do that. Other than that, after three quarters they 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.600 had gained one hundred and fifty five totally yards. If 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.920 earned fifty five could say one thing quick, Rob, I 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.160 know you're gonna make a really great point. If there's 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.000 one thing though, that is a concern about this offensive line, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.800 and this happens with Travis Frederick not in the lineup. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.960 It's the second game where you've had a mic linebacker 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.840 make a lot of play and that's with Ogil Tree. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.120 You know, he made a lot of tackles in this game, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.080 and he was involved in tackles in this game. It 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.480 goes back to trying to find ways. I mean, he 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.200 had a lot of hits and so you know, you 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.520 got to keep an eye on That is the Luke 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.120 Keekley's of the world. And you're not always gonna play 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.160 Luke Keekley, but you're probably gonna play a lot of 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.280 Alex ogle Trees. Say Bobby Wagner, Yeah, unless he's still hurt. Yeah. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.840 And if you're a Cowboys fan, hit your knees and 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.240 hope you know in that one. But but see that 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.160 to me, this is where you know, okay or is 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.960 it gonna always be pretty? Mickey is absolutely right about 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.160 the line and way they played with with you know, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.480 they did a really great job. One of the things 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.080 I've noticed last night was Zach Martin veteran move. You know, 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.000 anytime snacks Harrison's ribs are exposed, take your helmet and 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.600 jam him in it as hard as you can, try 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.640 and soften him up, you know, keep beating on him, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.400 keep beating on him. That's what they were able to 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.840 do last night. They beat on these giant defensive linemen 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.960 last night and it helped him summon the game went 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.360 to the body like a box body. Yes, it's body 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:06.119 shots there. But keep an eye on these linebackers making plays. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.960 Now it might be second level plays, but they're there. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.200 You know, what could be a seven or eight yard 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.320 game is only a three yard game, you know, keep 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.000 an eye on. Okay, how they doing that? Howie? And 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.080 that's that's that's nitpicky on my part, but it's but 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:24.399 it's two weeks in where they haven't accounted for a 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.000 linebacker inside as well as they need, and that's a 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.200 lot of it has to do because we're so used 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.440 to Travis Frederick and Zack Martin and those guys doing 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.199 what they have to do to kind of control that inside. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.000 What's the nuance to that in terms of what Frederick 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.280 brings and some of its pre snap communication identifying who 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.680 the mic is right? I saw that last think it's more. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.640 I think it's really about just the just the overall. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.680 And it's quite possible that Joe Looney did not play 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.280 bad last night. It's just two weeks in a row 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.560 that Joe Looney has not killed you in a game. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.800 He's been solid, Yeah, he's been very solid. But you 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.120 just say, okay, if you if you want to say, 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.040 what are you missing from Travis Frederick? That's where you're missing. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.520 It's there's probably some communication factor, like you're talking, but 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.040 you're missing that ability to really cut the defense in 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.280 half when you get a guy, when you get him 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.680 to secure and then second level that gives Zeke that 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.480 little bit of cutback. You know, the couple of the 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.840 big runs they had last night were when they ran 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.280 traps with the tight end you know they got you know, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.040 they were able Swaying or Jarwin, neither one of them 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.440 got a block, but they were able to get hats 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.960 on hats and then now Zeke coming off the goal 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.480 line and then going in, they ran a couple of 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.080 those those those plays where they ran traps with the 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.159 tight ends. It worked out pretty well, but they were 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.720 able to get guys up on linebackers. And that's you know, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.119 that's what they have to have. They have to have 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.000 more of that where it's a nineteen yard run and 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.800 a seven yard run as opposed to a two yard 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.040 run or a three yard run. Yeah, we saw Zeke 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.760 hitting the edges a little more too in this game. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.840 He was captured the outside, you know. And if they 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.159 wouldn't have had and I think they were on the 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.159 move there in the third quarter when they got the 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.800 back to back holding calls, Well they two really big plays, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.080 you know, and and they brought back that were first 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:07.159 down play times. It was a three and out that 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.480 included two first downs. Next time, swains on the outside 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.680 and he blocks this guy, Just screen him, don't try 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.399 to bury because he had the block. Yeah, you know, 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.320 I still don't understand it's a bulldog move. Well it's 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.560 a bulldog move. I mean, once you block the guy 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.360 and you bury him. Why do they call holding, Well, 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.120 that guy's fault. They called him for the initial arm 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.159 around the neck and then he tried to pull it 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.240 back and by that time all the officials saw the 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.840 umpire made the call. All he saw was the round 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.400 the neck. And you know, it's difficult. That's a difficult 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.840 one because he's just trying to you know, he did 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.800 a nice job in pass protection, trying to help out. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.720 I mean, he gets overpowered a lot. They do not 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.280 have a blocking tight end on this team. They just don't. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.679 It's Jarwin was a liability yesterday in this game, Swain, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.760